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I am dude it's working what's
what's really funny is that I
didn't answer the

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phone though you didn't answer
the phone what do you mean I
don't know it's just

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rag and all of a sudden you were
talking I'll take it that was
that was cool

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number one number two here's the
other weird thing I can hear you
through my

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headphones but I can't hear me
through my headphones which is
alright I just sort

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of believe I just sort of
believe if you can hear me then
then you'll like that

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will be fine and I don't need to
hear myself that's okay because
I'm I'm

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actually hold on so now do I get
some of that cool reverb too
here's the

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bum bummer I'm oh shit this is
really hard what happened it's a
delaying a

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little bit well maybe if I don't
oh I see it's coming back now oh
I see the

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problem we got a loop go in
there huh oh I can hear myself
now yeah you don't want

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wow wow wow whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa we did that with
we had that

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kind of delay once during a
webcast at Harvard and we were
able to sing row row

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row your boat with ourselves you
know like a little round thing
the delay was

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that good oh really yeah it was
pretty funny okay let me if I
turn this down a

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bit boy they really got zot in
Haiti you know this this
hurricane it's coming

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hold on a second yeah I just
wanna set this up one two check
one two you said can

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you talk for a sec I can talk
for a sec yeah okay hello this
is dr. Dave coming it

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was so cool and then and then
Doug K I'm gonna play do that on
my next source

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code Doug K came back with with
the correction on the settings
dr. Dave

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advice yeah it was perfect it
was so perfect did you hear the
Gilmore gang I

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haven't yet oh dude they're all
over iPodder really good yeah
and of course

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finally finally finally they
have some technology to talk
about it really and

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then one of the guys says you
know Adam Curry the X VH1 VJ I'm
like

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man you're getting old that
sucks you're your ass tags
literally as they say

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those words oh Dave may the hair
god punish you even more shit

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you could worse it could be
worse I just saw a thing on
Donald Trump no

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kidding and they had a picture
of him 20 years ago and he
actually looked pretty

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good back in the day yeah the
Donald was looking good yeah
exactly well he was in

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New York icon in the 80s yep I
was in I was living in New York
when I think if

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you watch that show you may get
a glimpse of your future gee
thanks Dave I think

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I'm extremely innovative yeah
he's he's funny because I'm like
exactly in the

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middle age wise between the two
yeah how old is Trump is he 60s
he's 10 years

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older than me yes we stood 59 59
yeah and you're like just turned
40 yeah he's

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still got a ways to go before
you're old I tell you so okay
you said there was

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you you the reason we're
recording this you chatted me
you chatted me up

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you bitch yeah you chatted me up
and said that there's a VP
debate tomorrow yeah I

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said this that we're on the eve
of the VP debate I have to go
look into this but

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that could be just as good in
many ways as the debate between
Kerry and Bush

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because you know Cheney is kind
of you know an asshole okay just
kind of well

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it's kind of you know I'm sure
his wife doesn't think maybe she
does yeah you

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don't know yeah it could be so
that could be kind of
interesting but I thought it

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would be fun to have people if
we could swing it technically to
have people be

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able to call in yeah the debate
because we'd all have something
we could watch

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at the same time and something
to respond to so that way if we
you and I

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happen to miss one of the lies
mm-hmm Bush was telling we're
gonna overlook

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the ones that Kerry tells of
course of course if we have to
catch a lie or miss

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one then somebody else might
catch it sort of okay but the
problem here with

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the call in is that gee boy
maybe that's pushing it that
sounds like it's pushing

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it well no no I mean what I'd
like to do is first I'd like to
see if we can

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even get our audio synced up you
know because there could be a
significant

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delay between what you get from
CNN and what I get from CNN
which also make it

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interesting but I I want to try
and stick to all the all the
known factors before

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before we go you know how much
of a delay do you think they
would be well I've

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seen satellite delays of many
many seconds almost really yeah
come on hold a

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second day what baby yeah yeah
I've been if enough to unbelly
oh 8 in

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oh is that snacks I was just
served my my Saturday snack
thank you here okay I'm

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talking to Dave when you laugh
so loud about why did she was
she laughing at me

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or with no she was laughing at
your Bush commentary oh really
she cracked up when

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you said that he's lying like a
motherfucker it was great it was
perfect but

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that's exactly what it's like
yeah it's like okay we're
watching a president

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Bush in the Rose Garden and he's
taking out a three club a three
wood

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but I was entertained by too it
could be much better

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mm-hmm Rushland both did a
wonderful job with Kerry I was
laughing out loud it was

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funny was that on the radio yeah
shit I wish I could hear that
well it's long

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gone but I was in Pennsylvania
on my beginning my cross-country
drive and I

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think he had recorded the Kerry
speech a lot of his stuff was
recorded yeah and so

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he had it on this loop thing and
he would press the the button
and Kerry would

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say the thing and then he'd go I
can't comment on this and then
he would say

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oh I have to hit pause that's
why I do on the source code
that's fun and then

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he would yeah of course then he
would hit backspace mm-hmm and
then he would play

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it again and he'd get angry all
over it perfect and he would say
and he would

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blame Kerry for repeating
himself which I thought was the
most beautiful little

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thing he did yeah Kerry actually
wasn't repeating himself he was
just repeatedly

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playing the thing Kerry said
exactly buddy well but you want
to do this live

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right I don't know I don't know
how I want to do it I just think
we ought to

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do more trade secrets things
because there's more stuff to
talk about number

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one number two is I've been
getting a universally very very
positive

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response from people about this
yeah they really like it scobal
I had dinner I had

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dinner with and we know his boss
oh yeah what do you have to say
his boss no

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scobal I don't know what his
boss said scobal said scobal
said you're gonna get

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a radio contract within like two
weeks well you know what it's
very easy to to

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perceive this being on the radio
because it's it's what people
want to listen to

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and during drive time hey
Christina that's my daughter now
walking in just

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14 days day you've corrupted my
the youth of America damn oh
that's a good

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point no yeah but see then
already it's no it's not as fun
so maybe we don't maybe

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we don't have to strive for a
radio contract I think the
massive amounts of

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iPods may do it for us that's
true yeah I think you were
talking about with our

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was that Andrew Orlowski was
that the same Andrew Orlowski
that routinely

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trashes all the bloggers here I
have no idea I've never read any
of his stuff but

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I thought this was an amazing
piece it was given you know what
he said we have to

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figure out if this is the same
guy he's from Australia I think
oh yeah probably

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isn't the same guy then it was
president but it was boys in the
UK I'm sorry he's

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in the UK oh that's the same
Andrew yeah yeah it was both
president and ignorant

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at the same time it was
magnificent yeah of both I mean
he he forecast what was

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actually gonna happen except
that his forecast was off by a
few years right

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five yeah he says iPods are
gonna fill themselves within
five years and Apple

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won't build it but but someone
else will yeah dude we did hope
I'm losing you

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Dave are you there hello yeah
yeah what happened there I don't
know well it's

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just a connection all of a
sudden dropped out I figured it
was exactly six

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minutes no that's what your your
instant message was no no no in
fact we're now

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we're 10 minutes and 37 seconds
now I'm not too worried about
that

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it's Murphy yeah you need to
speak up a little bit Dave
you're a little bit

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often actually it seems like
this is actually gonna make to
like on the

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internet and stuff right but
this yeah of course okay so for
the people listen at

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home it's very important that
you're in your car or on your
walk or while you're

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exercising or whatever it is
that you're doing Spain is plain
spotting

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what is it what are you eating
well look I didn't this wasn't a
planned show I'm

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eating I have a nice avocado
with shrimp I have some olives
and I have some

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French bread with crab cocktail
stuff and peppers and mmm it's a
weekend at the

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castle the quality of my
connection went really way down
no I'm sorry I'll stop

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eating that'll help I think that
can you hear me all right yeah I
hear you

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fine yeah maybe you have
something running maybe you got
mail running or

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something and it's is you got
something running in the
background maybe your

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email is sucking it in okay I
can hear you fine all right so
what else are we

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oh yeah so we just got an email
from Andrei Rodka and you should
be on the

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mail list now the frontier
Colonel mail list yeah I signed
up you sent me the

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thanks and so we've got the
first sort of candidate release
candidate for the

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open-source release of frontier
really it's already is already
available so what

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can I do with this I can
download it and do what oh okay
I can like that was

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really bizarre the way that
sounded like Robo copping we
call that what's the

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name of that guy that robotic
max headroom it was that's it
yeah just like max

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headroom yeah I look like I'm
too at the moment how did you
know because you know

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it's like we're on the same
wavelength Dave I'm touching the
laptop maybe it's

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actually the TCP IP connection
is sending brainwaves okay so
the open

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source the open source release
frontier so here's what you can
do with it I did

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understand the question even if
it did sound bizarre first of
all you have to

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have Metro works environment
code warrior is that what that
is for met code warrior

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that's right they have it
available for both Windows and
for Macintosh which are

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the two platforms that this code
runs on and and then you there
are build

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instructions that actually I
think we we still need to post
those but you can

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sort of figure it out and then
what happens is you know you
build it and it

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turns into frontier.exe then you
and but however you can make
changes to it

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before and before you compile it
so now you have the license to
create your

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own like frontier if you want to
and you and you could you can
use it to how

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big is the is the kernel
actually in file size I don't
know I haven't looked at a

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while let's see you mean like
when it's compiled right yeah
what I mean what yeah

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what size is the frontier.exe
you know how big is frontier.exe
we need to do

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another we need to let's
recreate this connection I can't
have a conversation

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this way okay I'll call you back
yeah can you call me back yeah
I'd love to call

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you back all right yeah much
faster than regular phone
service hey oh my god that

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was that was scary and you
sounded like you're crazy there
at the end I am I was

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delaying like wait a minute
Christina are you downloading
something check you know

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she got line wire running again
she's lying like a motherfucker
I have the

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headphones on thank God she
didn't hear that Dave said
you're lying like a

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motherfucker now we get the the
the teenager cold shoulder we
don't get any

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no response she's on MSN talking
to 8,000 people at once you're
breaking up

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again that's the whole thing is
happening again I can hear you
fine MSN yeah

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well we can't have a discussion
this way but are you but you
must be running your

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male client or something's
running that you're gonna have
to shut off all right

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all right all right hold on just
close a bunch of stuff now all
right I'm

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closing AOL I just closed close
Norton antivirus that sure it
uses up a lot

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that'll although I don't think I
don't think it was actually
running though so

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closing a I am all right now I'm
closing I don't want to close
Skype no no keep

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that running that would suck
yeah Skype would be the thing I
would not want to

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quit no iTunes that could be it
I iTunes just wants itself
whenever it feels

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like it really pisses me off it
feels like it yeah you probably
have an

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iPod or script running one of
those damn things launching your
iTunes all over

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the place excuse me but I don't
run that shit all right no
you're too hardcore

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yeah after I have to go download
the fucking source to frontier
but you won't

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even install a freaking
application nice talking all
that slow way again here I

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have to go install your that's
too bad because I can hear you
just perfectly

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that really sucks this can't be
very good but you you sound fine
I know I know

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except when I'm imitating you
yeah why don't you call me back
then all right

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let's try that hold on I'll go
away one ring eat it one ring
eating eat two ring

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eating ease all right say
something yeah I'm on that's
better okay I think we're

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still doing one of those trade
secret shows where we're not
doing anything

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other than talking about trade
secret well you want to do the
Skype test I can't

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function the way we were doing
it so all right this may be
better okay is this

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working okay for you so far so
good okay good all right so now
the question is

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let me just find out what the
size of this stuff is because
you asked right all

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right let's go explore and it's
not it's not that big basically
is the yeah let's

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see hey yeah you know I'd love
to have some of that food you're
eating there I'm

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tell you Patricia just joined us
she's she can't hear me for you
because she has

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that don't have the headphones
on but she's now she's eating
what do you have

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there that's a rabbit food
that's healthy food yeah and you
have what is that dried

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some dried tomatoes and rap
could you ask her to sing that
song that she sang for

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us yeah that's like asking a
comedian to tell a joke or like
a joke or a program or

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to write some code write some
code yeah no I will not ask that
song mumbo

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Italiano that's what yeah would
you like oh yeah yeah she says
not bad for a heart

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patient no that's exactly what I
was thinking well she's doing
it's exactly

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what he was thinking one heart
patient to another here with me
in the middle I

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don't think that's a good place
to be just kidding

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yeah someone's got to watch over
you guys exactly so it's 1357 K
so it's about 1.3

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megs oh that's nothing it's tiny
compared to an mp3 I mean you
know but you

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could actually code all kinds of
stuff into the into the kernel
and you turn

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that into an application yeah
like for example one of the
things I want to do

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is create iPod or well that
wasn't what I was gonna say but
I don't know you

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guys seem to be doing so good
with that well the publishing
side is where it is

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where we're gonna run into
problems and I've been I've been
thinking about this

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a lot you know because either
you're gonna interface with
existing weblog

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software that'll create an RSS
file or you're going to
basically go back and

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do all that work again and I
think that's pretty silly no you
don't want

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to recreate a weblog no of
course not but that's exactly
the infrastructure we

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want to publish well okay so
you've got let's go through this
WordPress sounds

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like they're gonna do it but
they already have an including
well they already

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have been closure support
running right and I have half of
it in Manila okay

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that's yeah part of what I did
for secrets that scripting.com
yeah I'd love to

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have that code I don't have the
user interface I'll give you the
code okay

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great yeah but first let me put
a user interface on it so that
you can like

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type the URL and then so you
don't have to go into web edit
and put it in

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there because that's the way I
have to do it right now okay you
know that's that's

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not a very convenient way yeah
that's not that's not gonna go
but it's very the

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easy part I think is the user
interface though the hard part
was figuring out

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how to fit it in well wouldn't
you do it just like it's like
really that's

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Manila I'm sorry I was gonna say
wouldn't you do it just like
radio user

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language yeah sure it's very
much like radio use but it's
Manila because

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Manila is you know a different
model it's a dynamic content
management system

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whereas radio you know it's the
question of deep frying versus
baking Manila is

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deep fried radio is baked but um
what was I gonna say so you've
got radio you've

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got we're gonna have Manila soon
movable type probably should
they should do it

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I don't know Brent sort of did I
Brent did I did a half-ass job I
mean on what

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on net news on the other side
actually okay on the publishing
side right I don't

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know what he is so scared of I
you know he's been saying that
for the longest time

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that it freaks him out this idea
of downloading enclosures but
really well

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they now support it he did you
see the post I pointed to yeah
of course I did

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but it wasn't well you know it
wasn't he didn't he didn't
actually put it in

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he said here's how you do it
right but why not put it I don't
I don't know I

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don't know a lot easier for him
to put it it's a lot easier for
him to put it in

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yeah you to hack it up with an
apple script yeah oh just trying
to avoid some

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kind of support issue really
well I mean you know I don't
know it may be

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valid no it's okay can you just
talk a little more into the mic
Dave so we can

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just all hear you at home it's
like totally right up to my
mouth can you

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just stick it in a little
further anyway so like I'm
already saying politically

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incorrect things here you know
it's okay yeah well the other
thing I wanted to

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say about Brent's thing is why
the hell doesn't he give some
credit tech some

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LRPC you know and to the
meta-weblog API which made all
of that stuff in Marz

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edit possible yeah I mean this
guy goes out of his way to make
nice to the

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atom people like not go out of
his way to be nice to the
meta-weblog API people

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so you want you what you want is
you want a credit line well I'd
love him to

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say that hey you know the
technology works these guys did
a great job if it

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weren't for what they had done I
wouldn't be able to do this you
know and

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he's out there taking the credit
for it everybody goes well
Brent's a great

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guy and Brent is a great guy why
he's a great integrator is that
you know but

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he's building on the work of
other people and he has really
gone out of his

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way to praise the atom people
and I don't know why he doesn't
now

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you know he likes to say he's
being fair right but no it's
fair would be to say

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I'm not really using any of the
atom guys stuff here but can I
just ask why do

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you care yeah that's what I keep
sitting myself really why I mean
let me let me

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give a perfect example so all of
a sudden iPod are takes off
right and and it's

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great because I'm I'm being
credited in on web logs and
being credible but let

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me hear me out for a second I'm
being credited just about I sure
hope it's

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recording my voice now he's
getting ready to say something
he wants everybody

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here wait no of course it's got
to be recording it might not be
recording

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hold on let me just check I want
to make sure so everyone can
hear what I have

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to say god damn it hold on well
while you were waiting I'll tell
you why I

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care okay there's there's first
the irrational reasons okay
which

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unfortunately exist okay and
then there are the rational
reasons and let's I

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don't you know the irrational
ones is like you work your ass
off and you pay the

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price physically and lifestyle
wise yeah and then it's working
by the way I'm

23:55.140 --> 23:59.700
sorry it's like people to say
hey thanks that was good work
you know I know I

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understand so let me just finish
my thought all right let me
finish my thought

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so of course and I'm and I get
credited into code even I'm
getting

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credited it's fabulous I love it
I'm not used to that by the way
because

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usually it's like it's like the
Adam Curry from VH1 thing that I
just told you

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about right and that's gonna
happen and these guys were well
and you know their

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intentions were I think we're
pretty good they were actually
were you should

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listen to that when you hear the
Gilmore gang you'll you'll
understand what I'm

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saying and they really meant
well but even that it's like
yeah that bothers

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you but at the end of the day
you know all right seriously
it's like you know

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you can't go you people either
give you credit you can't say
you owe me credit

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just doesn't work that way I
didn't say that no but you know
you said I wish

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that yeah I do and there's the
okay I was starting to say
there's the semi

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irrational reasons for it which
I think are perfectly legitimate
and then there

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are the rational reasons which
is that basically you get
written out of the

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record and then you can't do it
again in other words every time
you try to do

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something new basically you face
the same obstacles you face the
first time

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you tried to do something new if
you don't get credit for your
successes then

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people don't say well maybe this
guy knows what he's talking
about because he

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did X Y and Z and believe me
that happens all the time I mean
people come

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in and take credit for what I've
done and they get to do it again
but I don't

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and well but I'll give it a very
frustrating I'll give an example
here's

25:32.920 --> 25:43.500
something interesting so now
forget it that's too long of an
example like if

25:43.500 --> 25:48.540
you do it if you try it you know
when you start doing something
like this you

25:48.540 --> 25:54.580
know like meta-web blog API or
XMRPC you say things like well
you know I just

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want this stuff to happen I
don't really care how it happens
right you know so

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to be consistent with that you'd
have to say well you know I said
it then I

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should mean it now right yeah so
I understand that and in fact I
see Brett

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saying some of those things like
where he says he really likes
the guy who writes

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Ecto and this and that yeah and
I go to myself boy is he said
because these guys

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are gonna nail his ass for what
why because they get because
that's what

26:20.140 --> 26:25.220
happened to me basically I said
to some of these guys oh are no
one owns RSS you

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know what they heard what they
heard yeah they heard I own RSS
that's the

26:31.180 --> 26:34.540
way the human brain works man
that's the way it works right
that's what

26:34.540 --> 26:39.100
Britain's walking right into so
you know I mean anyway I think
that you know so

26:39.100 --> 26:43.620
what you should say check this
out check this out is you should
say I do not

26:43.620 --> 26:47.380
want any recognition I just
don't want it you know I don't
want the

26:47.380 --> 26:50.940
recognition because you know
it's just it's too much
attention I don't want it

26:50.940 --> 26:54.260
for people please don't do stop
doing that stop giving me
attention or

26:54.260 --> 26:59.140
recognition I you know I'm
almost there basically what
happened was after I

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got sick two years ago I decided
I'm not doing this stuff for
anybody but

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myself anymore I stopped
releasing it I really did it was
basically I said whoops

27:08.980 --> 27:13.540
for these guys you said what
they don't appreciate so why am
I working so hard

27:13.540 --> 27:18.100
these guys they don't appreciate
it they don't they never say
thank you they

27:18.100 --> 27:21.260
don't give me credit for it I
said the hell with it I'm not
gonna anymore and

27:21.260 --> 27:25.100
I don't I I have a new content
management system that I use I'm
sorry I

27:25.420 --> 27:30.180
myself and I'm happy and you
know maybe I'll share it with my
friends but I'm not

27:30.180 --> 27:34.660
going to you know be believe me
the world's got to straighten
this thing out

27:34.660 --> 27:38.620
it's got to learn how to value
generosity and you know I've had
this talk with

27:38.620 --> 27:43.340
lexic and lexic is just getting
to get this I think yeah he sent
me an email

27:43.340 --> 27:46.060
the other day said well have you
patented any of this stuff
because we're

27:46.060 --> 27:50.540
patented here and I said no
Larry it's against my religion
he basically came

27:50.540 --> 27:55.540
back and said that's a good
answer but why was he asking you
know yeah and that was

27:55.540 --> 27:59.660
good he was asking Dave hold on
hold on let me let's just
reconnect one second

27:59.660 --> 28:05.260
because now you're giving the
robo-cop on me one second

28:10.260 --> 28:17.700
yeah okay all right beautiful
right so blessing anyway so they
were talking

28:17.820 --> 28:23.340
about iPodder yeah you got to
hear it and it's funny because
they tried to talk

28:23.340 --> 28:30.300
about Sun and their you know
they're paid by the cycle hour
offering well they

28:30.300 --> 28:36.980
kept drifting back to iPodder
and at the end of like at the
end of the show they're

28:36.980 --> 28:39.540
like oh we were really all over
the map you know we were talking
about so many

28:39.540 --> 28:45.380
different things yeah iPodder it
was great and then there's like
you know it's

28:45.420 --> 28:48.100
like and they were trying to
find it they're all online you
she got to listen to

28:48.100 --> 28:51.820
this yeah it's like iPodder dr.
Earl says I can't find it just
take me to Adam

28:51.820 --> 28:55.620
Curry's web log and said no no
it's iPodder.org.org you know
they're all

28:55.620 --> 29:00.100
trying.com let me let me get my
two cents in it's one of the
most successful

29:00.100 --> 29:07.220
development projects on the net
in the last few years really
maybe because what

29:07.220 --> 29:12.020
happens is these stupid mail
lists get so bogged down with
all these people who

29:12.020 --> 29:15.340
know better and they want to go
back and redo you had working
five years

29:15.700 --> 29:22.220
and they are so persistent they
have so much time did you see
have you seen Steve

29:22.220 --> 29:27.660
Garfield's contributions to the
iPodder dev list no oh it's
great he's a total

29:27.660 --> 29:32.860
user 100% is great he's like
this shit's I don't understand
that it's fucked up

29:32.860 --> 29:36.220
it's downloading things it
shouldn't I don't get it and
people are all over and

29:36.220 --> 29:39.300
trying to help him you know
setting them up getting new
releases out it's

29:39.700 --> 29:43.740
the idea it's supposed to be
downloading shit all the time
right yeah well yeah but

29:43.740 --> 29:47.940
you know there was this one of
the concerns that we that
everyone had of

29:47.940 --> 29:51.660
course was you know you have
these these beautiful iPod are
set up with default

29:51.660 --> 29:55.260
feeds or even if you just add a
new feed you know if someone's
like radio user

29:55.260 --> 30:01.220
land I think my default is 25
items in an RSS feed you know
times 15 to 30

30:01.220 --> 30:06.260
megs hello so what we've come up
with now is it's configurable
but the

30:06.300 --> 30:10.940
default is it downloads the last
three items and then on the next
run it'll

30:10.940 --> 30:15.380
download the three before that
and the next run the three
before that until it's

30:15.380 --> 30:21.460
saturated which maybe it
shouldn't download all the
things in the feed maybe it

30:21.460 --> 30:26.020
should only start downloading
with things that are new after
you subscribe well I

30:26.020 --> 30:29.180
think that everyone's putting
the the options in and the
preferences but the

30:29.180 --> 30:32.660
question is what is the default
what matter what's the default
going to be

30:33.260 --> 30:37.220
all that matters yeah exactly
cuz you're first of all you're
controlling first

30:37.220 --> 30:40.860
time behavior yeah and that's
that's what we're screwing up
right now yeah fuck

30:40.860 --> 30:46.180
around with the yeah we're still
screwing that up a little bit
right now so we

30:46.180 --> 30:50.220
decided to call it mobile
blogging and get inside step all
the history fitting

30:50.220 --> 30:56.020
and that seems that seems like a
fair like a like a good yeah did
you see that

30:56.180 --> 31:03.180
mobile blogging video clip I
posted today you're gone again
really this sucks

31:03.180 --> 31:10.620
but you're back okay see the
thing was did you see the the
mobile blogging

31:10.620 --> 31:16.460
video clip I posted today I
pointed to it oh it's very cool
it's two guys that

31:16.460 --> 31:22.020
the driving from LA to New York
in a convertible and they had a
camera on

31:22.020 --> 31:26.700
the back of the car and they did
a stop frame so in four minutes
you travel with

31:26.700 --> 31:32.460
them from LA to New York it's
beautiful I think I have seen
that but it would be

31:32.460 --> 31:35.700
worth seeing that's beautiful
that is beautiful I've wanted
that it's really

31:35.700 --> 31:41.580
nice traveling cross-country
yeah well you this is exactly
what they did

31:41.580 --> 31:47.420
I gotta turn your volume up a
little bit well I don't think
Skype is the

31:47.420 --> 31:51.380
answer I don't know it's and I
was just about to say because
what Skype does

31:51.420 --> 31:56.340
very well is the the voice
quality but when it comes to
keeping the connection

31:56.340 --> 32:01.940
we've had much better success
with the eye chat and aim yeah
that people told me

32:01.940 --> 32:06.300
that I was breaking up on I chat
though I chat name they weren't

32:06.300 --> 32:09.260
complaining that much they were
sort of saying it kind of worked
you know what

32:09.260 --> 32:12.500
it is at the end of the day when
you're listening to AM radio you
get used to

32:12.500 --> 32:17.660
it well you know what we need is
we need somebody who does
voiceover IP they

32:17.660 --> 32:22.220
can work with us yeah and you
know cuz I think we have enough
hardware here we

32:22.220 --> 32:27.260
have both have reasonably good
internet connections right yeah
well here's the

32:27.260 --> 32:32.180
next thing that the next
application I've been dicking
around with which may

32:32.180 --> 32:37.980
give us better results is you
familiar with the free world
dial-up you ever

32:37.980 --> 32:42.900
heard of that no remember Jeff
Pulver you've probably seen his
name around yeah

32:42.940 --> 32:48.660
Paul he was I know who he was
the supernova guy could cover he
was the guy

32:48.660 --> 32:52.220
that was the company that
sponsored supernova yeah he's
he's been around for a

32:52.220 --> 32:58.220
long time is that right yeah I
think so so he started free
world dial-up which

32:58.220 --> 33:04.100
is essentially a voiceover IP
network and you can connect to
it for free you

33:04.100 --> 33:09.660
can download the basic software
for free and you know what
they're going to be

33:09.700 --> 33:14.420
offering is what everyone else
is going to be offering or is
offering is numbers

33:14.420 --> 33:19.580
you can rent virtual numbers so
someone can dial a new york
number and get your

33:19.580 --> 33:26.140
your connection yeah but also
point-to-point so why don't you
download

33:26.140 --> 33:32.780
from free world dial-up dot com
hold on let me go there yeah you
want to

33:32.780 --> 33:39.820
download the x10 client it comes
to a preconfigured you have to
register that's

33:39.820 --> 33:47.660
not a big deal free world
dial-up dot com yeah this is
good let's just let's do

33:47.660 --> 33:50.900
this I don't want to try to
download it while we're on

33:50.900 --> 33:55.860
pussy well that'll screw up
screw up skype who knows skype
is screwed up

33:55.860 --> 34:03.500
enough okay I mean like it's
gonna make any difference my
account well you know

34:03.500 --> 34:06.860
I'm gonna have to put this
thinking microphone down now you
know I have to

34:06.860 --> 34:13.140
create an account oh damn well I
don't know what to do well you
aren't gonna be

34:13.140 --> 34:18.940
able to hear me that's for sure
okay I hear is a button that
says FWD that

34:18.940 --> 34:24.460
must be it right I don't know
that's good marketing if it
works yeah get FWD

34:24.500 --> 34:29.860
phone now you want to
preconfigured heart I don't
really want no no no you just
want

34:29.860 --> 34:35.580
the free x10 client and you'd be
yeah you have to sign up well
excuse me where

34:35.580 --> 34:42.780
the fuck would that be I've been
watching the sopranos too much
yeah really we

34:42.780 --> 34:48.100
have the fuck would that be hold
on let me see free world so I
hear they were

34:48.100 --> 34:52.620
talking about iPod run I see
conversations no kidding

34:52.620 --> 34:59.740
who was doing the talking that's
what Steve actually started it
off yeah he's

34:59.740 --> 35:05.500
got to have major wood about
iPod yeah he he but he scyped me
the other day and I

35:05.500 --> 35:09.180
wasn't around and I scyped him
back although it said it was
online it

35:09.180 --> 35:13.020
either didn't go through or he
didn't answer and he said at the
end of the

35:13.020 --> 35:16.940
show that next week they were
gonna talk about iPod or iPod
platform etc so I

35:16.940 --> 35:21.940
was hoping that he was calling
to have me on the show that'd be
cool so if I go

35:21.940 --> 35:26.540
to sort of like everything in
one that would be daily source
code yeah that

35:26.540 --> 35:31.380
would be what we would call an
integrated app download it now
use it today did

35:31.380 --> 35:38.420
that not catch your eye Dave
right in the middle of the page
oh there it is

35:38.420 --> 35:43.300
that big blob of purple because
excuse me they have lots of crap
like that I'm

35:43.340 --> 35:47.260
this is one of those pages where
they're all different
departments got the loop

35:47.260 --> 35:53.060
and though we need a big purple
blob here it's the purple
download blob they're

35:53.060 --> 36:02.260
about 18 of them okay so IP
phone light is that it which one
do I want hold on

36:02.260 --> 36:07.060
hold on excuse me you know I'm
windows right I'm not Mac yeah
it does it does

36:07.060 --> 36:11.780
windows so I want the FWD one
that's the first one in the list
that's what

36:11.780 --> 36:22.180
you always get let me just see
the IP phone no no no hold on
hold on you want the

36:22.180 --> 36:27.500
FWD X light X light good thing I
asked okay yeah so then we'll
have the same

36:27.500 --> 36:31.940
client oh this will be
interesting all right I'm
running it oh that was quick

36:31.940 --> 36:37.420
did you look did you have an
account well won't work without
an account I'm

36:37.460 --> 36:43.380
just doing what I told you to
sign up you did not yeah then
you said I'll need two

36:43.380 --> 36:50.260
hands to do that yeah stop
downloading porn with the
program really get with the

36:50.260 --> 36:57.460
program I'm watching Katie
Wallace on CNN that's porn yeah
not really you know what

36:57.460 --> 37:08.660
sucks you know what sucks about
I'm using walls no audio hijack
pro that I'm

37:08.660 --> 37:15.340
using to record so it can record
from any application but only if
that application

37:15.340 --> 37:22.460
is actually sending audio data
and so Skype whenever you
homeless whenever

37:22.460 --> 37:25.620
you're quiet like you are right
now then it basically is not
sending out any

37:25.620 --> 37:31.700
audio and and just for a split
second if it doesn't receive the
it should have like

37:31.700 --> 37:37.140
a time gate on it for a split
second if the audio is gone then
it then basically

37:37.140 --> 37:42.340
the connection shuts down and my
mic channel still stays active
but then for

37:42.340 --> 37:46.220
some reason it goes into there
just did it goes into delay mode
then I hear

37:46.220 --> 37:51.100
myself delayed by about half a
second on my headphones and I
have to stop the

37:51.100 --> 37:55.660
mic and start it again it's very
irritating yeah that's no you
know when

37:55.660 --> 37:59.860
dr. Dave was talking on your
show yesterday yeah you could
hear that that the

37:59.860 --> 38:04.140
software he was using was
dropping out the blank periods
oh well he wasn't he

38:04.140 --> 38:08.180
wasn't using what he did is he
pre-recorded this I know who dr.
Dave is

38:08.180 --> 38:11.900
this is one of these guys and I
love him you know he's probably
well I don't

38:11.900 --> 38:15.220
want to guess his age doesn't
matter he sits at home he's got
a studio he's

38:15.220 --> 38:20.940
got a ISDN box and ad companies
movie companies you know people
call him

38:20.940 --> 38:26.460
up and they say okay and you
just like the Jerry Seinfeld
trailer for his movie

38:26.460 --> 38:32.180
and the guy goes in a world
where women wear comfortable
shoes and aren't

38:32.180 --> 38:38.380
lesbians that kind of stuff and
he I'm sure that he recorded his
bit and then

38:38.380 --> 38:42.900
edited it because I heard some
either he edited it by hand or
indeed he had a

38:42.900 --> 38:46.660
silent stripper just mushed it
all together you could hear it
it was

38:46.660 --> 38:52.820
awful yeah there was the big
radio sound it was beautiful
really it is the big

38:52.820 --> 38:56.740
radio sound yeah it's kind of
like at the end of the car
commercials where they

38:56.740 --> 39:00.300
tell you all the different
little legalities and yeah your
results may

39:00.300 --> 39:12.380
vary due to road and weather
conditions so have you
registered yet no I only have

39:12.380 --> 39:19.300
one hand here can I register I
don't even know where to
register I said look for the

39:19.300 --> 39:32.580
blob I'm looking that was funny
that was the marketing
department get FWD that

39:32.580 --> 39:38.180
that's what I clicked on sign up
that's a sign up sign up right
all right the step

39:38.180 --> 39:43.900
one is purchase pre-configured
hardware or download blah blah
blah got that yeah okay

39:43.900 --> 39:49.580
great plug in your phone to
install your software and you
did that I thought you

39:49.580 --> 39:55.460
installed it I thought it was
running oh jeal install this
this free world

39:55.460 --> 40:00.900
dial-up crap from unknown IP
excuse me excuse me I'm busy
accepting the

40:00.900 --> 40:06.220
agreement I'll call you back I
read the whole thing

40:06.220 --> 40:16.460
okay this is great it says
welcome play free world dial-up
blah blah blah blah

40:16.460 --> 40:20.300
next okay thanks

40:21.860 --> 40:30.940
yeah man yo buddy him well that
that was fun yeah that was about
45 minutes of

40:30.940 --> 40:37.060
dicking around my side works
because I've there's a whole
bunch of numbers you

40:37.060 --> 40:40.940
can call you can call service
numbers and it'll give you the
weather and the

40:40.940 --> 40:45.060
time and it has a voice
activated system and there's a
call back and an echo

40:45.060 --> 40:49.140
check and all kinds of great
stuff and did you have to go
through all this shit

40:49.140 --> 40:54.220
that I had to go through even
worse it's a it's so fucking
stupid I mean why do

40:54.220 --> 40:57.420
they do this this way why don't
they like test it with human
beings well I

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think it it well there's a the
Windows version that you
downloaded it comes

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pre-configured and that's right
because you had all the
information already

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stored in there right it was
wrong what what do you mean it
was wrong it

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didn't work well okay right but
that doesn't mean that that
doesn't mean the

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information was wrong because
I'm using the same in from it no
it doesn't and

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your your setup is different
from what they expect that's
probably what it is I

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have a clue for you though Skype
worked the first time no problem
yeah I know I

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know so somebody figured it out
yeah yeah yeah isn't it funny
how that works I

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mean you know it's really too
bad because the the x10 client
now of course we

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don't know how it sounds but it
keeps the audio hijack pro
running

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hold on it keeps it running the
minute you activate it then it
just keeps its

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audio channels open doesn't cut
off so I don't get that crappy
delay so it'd be

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nice really yeah it'd be really
nice so we could so it's better
technology then

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no no I wouldn't say that at all
I haven't heard the voice
quality yet so

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far this the systems which are
all automated that I've called
which are

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computer voices I was not blown
away by let me just see now
you're slowing down

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again you're like really like
you're going through no you're
better now what

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were you saying about Skype only
1015 in the morning and I'm
burned out to Chris

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just I hate farting around
software Adam I've spent a whole
life I gave my whole

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life for this I know all I want
is it to work but it'll be so
worth it if we

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can get it to work all right
well next time we'll figure this
one out yeah okay so

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what are we gonna do I would
stick now sorry yeah go ahead
well I was gonna say

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what are we gonna do we're gonna
try and do a trade secrets
during the the VP

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debate well I think we better do
another dry run okay like this
one because just to

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see if well Skype is clearly not
the answer because the call
quality is

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I've got to talk first of all
you've got to get me a
description for your blogger

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concession yeah I told you this
weekend I promised you this week
yeah well

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there's a weekend over look I
even I can even go nine hours
into Monday and

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still get it to you by the way
you know this is like I gotta
like get the

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violins like running conferences
you know when I was at the
Skobals the other

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night these are both
ex-conference givers you know
Skobal has had a whole

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career doing this and you know I
said you know there's nothing
you can do to get

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people to sort of like like
realize that there's only one
person managing this

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whole stinking conference and
you know they'll never realize
of course not no

43:48.820 --> 43:52.420
but it's the point is it's
another one of those deals where
I don't think I'm

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doing this again you know when
they say hey you want to do a
conference all I

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remember is the good shit you
know what I mean hey hold on I
just got what what

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does error 407 mean that's what
you were getting right yeah this
isn't oh yeah

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it's under the troubleshooting
tips this is an authentication
error this occurs

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most often when your password in
your phone configuration does
not match the

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only the one currently assigned
to the FWD number you must use
the password

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you've chosen for your FWD
account note that if you change
your password through

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the my account section of the
free roll dial-up website you
must have a

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so maybe you typed your password
it changed my password maybe but
yet you

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typed it into the phone right
something like that how do I
change my password I

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guess it's right here hold on we
don't want to change it you want
it you want

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to make sure that well I
remember what I typed I mean
yeah it's not like it's

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you know I you know how it works
right I gave these guys my low
security

44:55.820 --> 45:01.620
the one that basically that's
right I might as well just say
what it is right

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because like everybody listening
to this I have no don't do that
don't everyone's

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diving into their Manila
websites what's Dave's password
they can hijack your

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phone number oh exactly it's the
wickified version

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you like I hate it no I'm only
kidding oh hey phone like even
even phones aren't

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this difficult to operate this
is really horrible I mean it
looks just like a

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phone with a metal brush oops
and by the way that's why I
spent $3,000 on a

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what I'm a laptop so I could get
a cell phone but it's free once
it works it's free

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Dave oh free as in beer oh well
so did you do your password I
have not found a

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place to put my password okay
it's on you you guys got shit I
totally know how

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to get to the menu okay I got
the menus down right under user
setting a system

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settings system system settings
yeah system settings okay very
nice network no I'm

46:24.980 --> 46:34.100
sorry wrong wrong wrong wrong
wrong wrong okay wrong bing bing
bing bing bing bing bing

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your time is up shut up the
correct answer is be quiet Dave
tell her to shut up I'm

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not gonna say that to my
daughter oh you're a horrible
man oh yeah you're a

46:47.700 --> 46:58.500
childless man yes I can tell
what Christina yeah exactly oh
man this is

46:58.500 --> 47:05.260
you're like Uncle Uncle Dave is
like you're like Uncle Ernie
from Tommy now

47:05.260 --> 47:11.380
where the fuck is the here to my
sip username we got all that
where's the

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goddamn password yeah it's just
crazy so much for Uncle Ernie
right wait a minute

47:17.340 --> 47:21.980
wait this is this is nuts yeah
tell me about it hold on now I
don't think you

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can change your password yes you
can I've done it I think once
set you are like

47:27.340 --> 47:34.340
no no no don't tell me that I
don't think you get to change it
now that's crap

47:34.340 --> 47:38.340
that's horse crap hold on maybe
the phone book maybe we have to
go to the

47:38.660 --> 47:47.980
oh man I hope Jeff Palmer hears
this this is I mean we're smart
guys right oh yeah

47:47.980 --> 47:53.340
I don't feel so smart right now
call setting makes me feel so
this is my

47:53.340 --> 47:57.380
favorite thing about software
but yeah how when I feel too
smart I just launch

47:57.380 --> 48:04.260
some software and I'm right away
this is horrible it's really
good I understand

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proxy default oh registering
hold on oh no I heard it work
okay what did it work I

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don't know you said proxy
registering well I hit something
what's your what's

48:23.540 --> 48:26.660
your number what's your number
the same difference same
difference what's your

48:26.660 --> 48:37.500
number oh number is 495297 it's
not gonna work call up Kevin
we're back he works

48:37.500 --> 48:41.700
for the pulver guy what or I
mean he does that they did the
supernova

48:41.700 --> 48:47.820
conference yeah pulver
communications Jeff over yeah
yeah right okay that you're

48:47.820 --> 48:52.820
still not on was a women did you
find your password yeah a whole
lot of things

48:53.140 --> 48:57.680
this is gonna piss me off yeah
what'd you do what I did was

48:57.680 --> 49:07.860
I went to to the green phone
icon and right clicked on it
really it's a proxy

49:07.860 --> 49:14.140
proxies turned on maybe I want
proxy turned on maybe I don't
know but I don't

49:14.140 --> 49:17.620
do I have that let me see if I
have a proxy still turned on no
matter what

49:18.340 --> 49:24.140
that's an audio tuning wizard
welcome to know you don't want
that oh diagnostic

49:24.140 --> 49:30.460
diagnostic log where's that oh I
have that if I right click under
the green dial

49:30.460 --> 49:39.620
button oh shit and I get audio
tuning wizard diagnostic log I
don't see

49:39.620 --> 49:43.420
anything like that okay well
that's not what you want to be
you want to be in

49:43.740 --> 49:51.460
your menu now this is so fucking
crazy I was here I did this how
come I can't find

49:51.460 --> 49:58.580
the man my Mac is freaking out
too I have a little thing here
that says AC is that

49:58.580 --> 50:04.380
wouldn't be your initials what
it yeah what's it for AC say
that I called you

50:04.380 --> 50:10.420
no it's just the black and it's
flashing red AC so you know
there's another

50:10.540 --> 50:14.340
hurricane going to Florida I
heard about that there's already
all kinds of RSS

50:14.340 --> 50:19.620
feeds that track it I gotta post
that yeah yeah anyway so what
you just didn't

50:19.620 --> 50:26.460
hear was a whole bunch of crap
where it didn't work it was it
was like an what

50:26.460 --> 50:35.700
was it an hour and a half of
fucking crap crap all right yeah
exactly nothing

50:35.700 --> 50:39.020
nothing at all important I mean
I'm gonna leave it running
though Dave because I

50:39.060 --> 50:42.700
know that what you know when
when you have you on your lunch
break you're gonna

50:42.700 --> 50:46.940
immediately just dive into it
here's how it works you know how
you do a crossword

50:46.940 --> 50:52.180
puzzle and you go away from it
and you come back and you find
five different

50:52.180 --> 50:56.900
moves that you just didn't see
before yeah that's what this is
like okay all right

50:56.900 --> 51:00.980
Adam it was a pleasure talking
with you as usual it will
likewise it was

51:00.980 --> 51:05.380
just very ad hoc but let's let's
see if we can get something
working with that

51:05.420 --> 51:12.140
X10 phone if it does otherwise I
want to do the you said it was
tomorrow night no

51:12.140 --> 51:16.060
when was it Monday night we'll
check it out no it's definitely
not gonna be Monday

51:16.060 --> 51:20.540
night it'll be tomorrow night
probably I'll check it out okay
but yeah it'll be

51:20.540 --> 51:23.180
so that'll be Monday morning for
me so we got to kind of figure
out what the time

51:23.180 --> 51:28.140
is right like in the middle of
the night for you yeah or early
morning it'll

51:28.140 --> 51:34.980
probably be 3 p.m. here we'll
find out six so be midnight my
time yeah that'll

51:35.020 --> 51:39.420
be now it's all do but hey for
in the name of science I'm happy
to do this your

51:39.420 --> 51:46.860
scientist Adam that's why you
have a PhD right in science
anyway hey I'm gonna

51:46.860 --> 51:51.540
hit the tune let's get the fuck
out of here I see a day