WEBVTT 00:03.000 --> 00:15.000 Hello there friends, family, go- 00:18.000 --> 00:21.000 I'm Adam Curry, welcome you to the Thursday edition. 00:21.000 --> 00:26.000 Today is October 7th, 2004 and we're ready to rock. 00:26.000 --> 00:31.000 We got some interesting things happening today. 00:31.000 --> 00:39.000 And that would be the fact that we're going to be doing a video about the 00:36.000 --> 00:43.000 two days. Once again life has kind of gotten in the way of doing the podcast. I told you 00:43.000 --> 00:48.000 yesterday it takes about an hour and a half these days to get everything queued up and 00:48.000 --> 00:53.000 get everything pre-produced and then it takes at least half an hour, sometimes an hour or 00:53.000 --> 00:58.000 longer to get the show going. And then another hour to make sure the compression is done 00:58.000 --> 01:01.000 right and get up to the server. And today life got in the way of all the 01:06.000 --> 01:10.000 to the flat screen factory for a shareholders meeting. 01:10.000 --> 01:13.000 Which means I've been on the road all day. 01:13.000 --> 01:16.000 Right now it is sort of living at 640. 01:18.000 --> 01:22.000 I am at Skippal Airport in the parking garage in my car. 01:22.000 --> 01:23.000 I'm just going to buckle in here. 01:23.000 --> 01:26.000 OK. 01:26.000 --> 01:26.000 I had to. 01:26.000 --> 01:28.000 Well, you know it's one of these things. 01:28.000 --> 01:30.000 I don't know if it's the same way in the States, but if you 01:30.000 --> 01:36.000 want to get more than 250 euros, so about, what is that 01:36.000 --> 01:39.000 these days, about $290. 01:39.000 --> 01:41.000 If you want to get more than $300 from a cash 01:41.000 --> 01:45.000 machine from an ATM, you have to go to a bank. 01:45.000 --> 01:47.000 Banks, of course, suck because they know 01:47.000 --> 01:49.000 the touristy close way too early. 01:49.000 --> 01:52.000 So the only other place to get anything above that amount 01:52.000 --> 01:55.000 is at Skippal Airport, which is kind of conveniently 01:55.000 --> 01:57.000 on the way home. 01:57.000 --> 02:00.000 No, not really convenient. 02:00.000 --> 02:02.000 From here it's one road home. 02:02.000 --> 02:05.000 And I'm just about to look at the, I'm in my Audi. 02:05.000 --> 02:06.000 I have an Audi A8. 02:06.000 --> 02:08.000 Love this car. 02:08.000 --> 02:10.000 It's got all the gadgets you want. 02:10.000 --> 02:11.000 It's got all the technology. 02:11.000 --> 02:13.000 Yet it's kind of boring. 02:13.000 --> 02:14.000 Not really sexy. 02:14.000 --> 02:16.000 Now I have been my navigation here. 02:16.000 --> 02:17.000 Let me just see. 02:17.000 --> 02:20.000 I'm going to set up for actually. 02:19.500 --> 02:26.500 start the car first. Okay, I'm going to set it up, take me to the castle, hold on, 02:26.500 --> 02:31.500 there we go. And I'm not gonna put the guidance voice on because that's that's 02:31.500 --> 02:37.500 kind of wacky. Although actually my, well now I'm not gonna do that. Okay, that means 02:37.500 --> 02:43.500 top-up washer fluid. Okay, let me just check my my route here and go to, okay, 02:43.500 --> 02:47.500 so Amsterdam Delft, I'm gonna get on the A4, 3, 02:51.000 --> 02:57.000 between Delph. Okay, so it shouldn't be too bad. Let me see if there's a traffic report 02:57.000 --> 02:58.000 memo. 02:58.000 --> 03:02.000 On 35 files in the meester, they're high from 5 km long. 03:02.000 --> 03:07.000 Okay, so there's 35 traffic jams. Each one is about... 03:07.000 --> 03:16.000 Each one is about 5 km. What's cool about this traffic system is that it actually records 03:16.000 --> 03:20.000 the traffic reports from the radio. So on all the stations here in... 03:20.000 --> 03:24.000 Most of them in Europe actually, when there's a traffic report, they hit a button 03:24.000 --> 03:28.000 so it'll interrupt your radio no matter what station or CD you're listening to. 03:28.000 --> 03:32.000 But this car actually also records, and I have a list of like... 03:32.000 --> 03:36.000 I had about 10 traffic reports there, each about 5 minutes apart. 03:36.000 --> 03:39.000 Hey, you know what? It's traffic. You're basically fucked no matter what. 03:39.000 --> 03:41.000 Tell you what, I'm going to get out of the garage here, 03:41.000 --> 03:45.000 and meanwhile why don't we crank up some driving music, sniffing... 03:51.250 --> 07:36.250 [ Music ] 07:37.500 --> 07:40.500 Yeah, sniffing the tears, driver's seat on your right. 07:42.000 --> 07:50.000 Sorry about that. It's kind of hard to drive and switch stuff at the same time. 07:50.000 --> 07:54.000 Okay, now we're all set up. Okay, so I'm out of the parking garage. I am now 07:54.000 --> 08:00.000 twirling. I want to get out of here people. Okay, you know what's great about 08:00.000 --> 08:06.000 these navigations systems? Hold on a second. Let me just remove the 08:06.000 --> 08:13.000 earphones. Oh boy. Come on people. Let my hand. Let my hand. Here we go. What's great 08:13.000 --> 08:19.000 about these navigation systems is that when the road is changed as frequently 08:19.000 --> 08:24.000 happens at airports then it gets really confused about where to send you but I 08:24.000 --> 08:29.000 just follow the signs now. Okay, so I've got about well depending on traffic let 08:29.000 --> 08:37.000 me see right now it's eight minutes seven and I'll be arriving at 825 now that's 08:37.000 --> 08:41.000 if there's no traffic whatsoever so I don't even think my laptop battery is 08:41.000 --> 08:45.000 gonna kind of keep it up. 08:43.500 --> 08:46.500 up for that long. So we'll probably just be able to get a good hour showing because there 08:46.500 --> 08:53.500 is a lot to talk about today. And what was nice on the way up, I had some time to check 08:53.500 --> 08:59.500 out some podcasts. I've got to tell you, this has really taken off ever since I really 08:59.500 --> 09:05.500 started focusing on the podcast directory, which of course can be found on iPodder.org. 09:05.500 --> 09:09.500 It just keeps on coming. I mean, I think this morning I added another five. Yesterday 09:09.500 --> 09:13.500 I must have added 10 or 15. And that's just the people have everything 09:13.500 --> 09:20.500 all together. I'm getting daily requests for additions to the directory 09:20.500 --> 09:25.500 from people who have a show that they have on their site or linked from 09:25.500 --> 09:28.500 somewhere, but they don't have a feed-up yet. And trying to help most of those 09:28.500 --> 09:32.500 people, most of them are getting helped out one way or the other. 09:32.500 --> 09:37.500 Just close the roof there, give us a little bit of sound. 09:37.500 --> 09:44.500 So I listened to some really good shows and obviously I was able to start 09:45.000 --> 09:51.000 sniffing a tear song and I probably can do the theme song at the end of the show. 09:51.000 --> 09:56.000 It's a little too much to be cruising through segments and pulling out bits today. 09:56.000 --> 09:59.000 But I do have my iPod handy. 09:59.000 --> 10:02.000 And what I'll do is I just want to talk about a few of these podcasts because it's just 10:02.000 --> 10:04.000 so lovely. 10:04.000 --> 10:09.000 And then when I get home, I'll edit in just a couple of bits so you can hear what's 10:09.000 --> 10:10.000 up. 10:10.000 --> 10:11.000 So it's almost live. 10:11.000 --> 10:14.000 It's live on tape, right? 10:15.000 --> 10:20.000 So first there's the Dawn and Drew show, a husband and wife team, which just 10:20.000 --> 10:21.000 cracked me up. 10:21.000 --> 10:25.000 And it's good to hear a woman's voice on a podcast. 10:25.000 --> 10:28.000 And so far it's been men, men, men, men, men. 10:28.000 --> 10:30.000 And so they just kind of shoot the breeze. 10:30.000 --> 10:31.000 But they're fighting together. 10:31.000 --> 10:36.000 You know, when you have a husband and wife team that have known each other 10:36.000 --> 10:39.000 for a while, when they talk, they kind of feel in the blanks and they can 10:39.000 --> 10:42.000 also rank on each other a bit from the Dawn and Drew show. 10:42.000 --> 10:44.000 Welcome to the Dawn and Drew show. 10:44.000 --> 10:46.000 I'm John Misselli and I'm Drew. 10:46.500 --> 10:48.500 And this is our show. 10:48.500 --> 10:49.500 That's right. 10:49.500 --> 10:51.500 So listen up bitches! 10:52.500 --> 10:53.500 Enjoy! 10:53.500 --> 10:57.500 This evening, the role of Drew Domkis will be played by James. 10:57.500 --> 10:59.500 Welcome to the Don and Drew Show. 10:59.500 --> 11:03.500 I'm Drew Domkis and broadcasting live from the satellite of love. 11:03.500 --> 11:04.500 That's right. 11:04.500 --> 11:06.500 I'm Don Micelli. 11:06.500 --> 11:09.500 For this evening, the role of Don Micelli will be played by Chris Moore. 11:09.500 --> 11:12.500 The Don and Drew Show and if you want to subscribe to that podcast, real easy just 11:12.500 --> 11:14.500 go to iPodder.org. 11:14.500 --> 11:18.500 Go into the download and shows directory and you can find it right there. 11:18.500 --> 11:21.500 And the way I'm doing it now, although I'm going to start to split it up into 11:21.500 --> 11:27.500 different categories, is every single time as a new show added to the directory, it'll 11:27.500 --> 11:28.500 be listed on top. 11:28.500 --> 11:30.500 So it's kind of reverse chronological order. 11:30.500 --> 11:32.500 Oops, I just, I'm going to believe this. 11:32.500 --> 11:38.500 I just remembered that I have to make a pit stop in between here and home. 11:38.500 --> 11:44.500 So basically I'm driving from Amsterdam via Rotterdam to Belgium. 11:44.500 --> 11:50.500 It's one straight line, but I have to stop off about three quarters of the way in 11:54.000 --> 11:59.000 If you're ever in Breda, B-R-E-D-A in the Netherlands, Breda, lovely town. 11:59.000 --> 12:02.000 There's a coffee shop there called Purple Rain. 12:02.000 --> 12:05.000 That's where my Moroccan buddies are. 12:05.000 --> 12:08.000 And, well, it's time for another refill. 12:10.500 --> 12:16.500 Moving on with some cool podcasts, I found... 12:18.000 --> 12:20.000 just find it of course you know every single one I add to the directory I pretty much 12:20.000 --> 12:22.000 subscribe to it at least 12:24.000 --> 12:32.000 The Rock and Roll Geek Show. Now this is hosted by Michael Butler and Michael 12:32.000 --> 12:37.000 Butler is the bass player for a band which I don't think I might have heard 12:37.000 --> 12:40.000 them before American Heartbreak. They've been around for about seven years and 12:40.000 --> 12:44.000 what I liked about this podcast is what Michael's doing and by the way what is 12:44.000 --> 12:47.000 it with bass players who are named Butler? Have you ever hear of Giza 12:47.000 --> 12:54.000 Butler? Black Sabbath? So Michael is doing a little bit differently. Instead of 12:54.000 --> 12:58.000 recording a complete show he records little bits and they'll just pick it up. 12:58.000 --> 13:03.000 So it's kind of like a diary and well here's a bit of him in the 13:03.000 --> 13:08.000 morning after he went to a show the night before for the New York 13:08.000 --> 13:14.000 Dolls and here's how he was feeling. It's Tuesday morning, the day after the 13:14.000 --> 13:17.000 New York Dolls show. 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 I am so... 13:19.000 --> 13:20.000 tired. 13:22.500 --> 13:25.500 way to work and I do not want to be here. 13:25.500 --> 13:29.500 Now of course, Al was not lost. 13:29.500 --> 13:31.500 He might have felt really crappy. 13:31.500 --> 13:33.500 But he also got a great ID for the show. 13:33.500 --> 13:37.500 And when we talk about IDs in the radio business, that basically means, hi, I'm Phil on the 13:37.500 --> 13:39.500 blank celebrity name. 13:39.500 --> 13:43.500 You're listening to Phil on the blank radio program name. 13:43.500 --> 13:47.500 And our buddy Michael got one from David Johansson at the New York Dolls. 13:47.500 --> 13:51.500 This is David Johansson and you're listening to. 13:51.500 --> 13:56.500 Unfortunately, the Rock and Roll Geek show. 13:56.500 --> 14:01.500 The only thing that was missing from that is, you should have said you're listening to the 14:01.500 --> 14:02.500 Rock and Roll Geek podcast. 14:02.500 --> 14:04.500 But all right, close enough. 14:04.500 --> 14:08.500 So anyway, so Michael really does this whole thing and I don't know what it is with him 14:08.500 --> 14:15.500 and his wife, but he keeps threatening that his wife, who he says doesn't understand 14:15.500 --> 14:17.500 what he's doing and probably doesn't agree with what he's doing. 14:17.500 --> 14:18.500 He's taping it all in his bedroom. 14:18.500 --> 14:23.500 Whenever she comes in, they start nagging each other and he keeps threatening to 14:24.000 --> 14:25.000 record a whole session. 14:25.000 --> 14:28.000 So we still have that to look forward to. 14:28.000 --> 14:33.000 But really nice was a bit that he added onto the show, which 14:33.000 --> 14:34.000 was a recording of. 14:36.000 --> 14:40.000 On KSFU, which is a college radio station, promoting a show that they were doing, 14:40.000 --> 14:46.000 and also played a couple of songs from their album, which I think they may be on some independent labels. 14:48.000 --> 14:54.000 Europe. Here's the traffic jam. I'm already seeing that we're slowing down to a crawl. 14:54.000 --> 15:02.000 That's good. Give me some time to queue up some stuff even if we really come to a standstill. 15:02.000 --> 15:08.000 What was nice about hearing the College Radio show interview was that all of a sudden it 15:08.000 --> 15:14.000 hit me. Do you remember, and many of you will, back in the 80s, certainly at MTV, 15:14.000 --> 15:20.000 primarily, College Radio was always cool. The buzz. College Radio is playing this. 15:20.000 --> 15:26.000 This is up and coming. College Radio is cool to listen to because it's basically almost 15:26.000 --> 15:32.000 uncensored. It's non-commercial. It's just kids having fun and people saying the truth 15:32.000 --> 15:35.000 and playing their heart out and getting their chops down. It reminds me so much of what 15:35.000 --> 15:39.000 we're doing with podcasting with one major difference is that College Radio, 15:39.000 --> 15:43.000 you can only really hear College Radio when you're near the College Radio station. 15:43.000 --> 15:49.000 In case of you, I'm sure has a huge transmitter, but when I was in... 15:49.500 --> 15:58.500 Salem, West Virginia, I went to Salem College and we had a 10 watt sunup, sundown FM transmitter. 16:03.000 --> 16:07.000 It would just kind of do the town of Salem. 16:07.000 --> 16:11.000 And what was the call letters? 16:11.000 --> 16:21.000 It was WITB, which depending on what, if you're on the day air shift or the night air shift, the day shift meant we're in the 16:24.000 --> 16:27.000 shift of course since we're into Bong heads that was my my college radio days 16:27.000 --> 16:31.000 I still have my you know the varsity jacket from the radio station WA TV air 16:31.000 --> 16:37.000 personality and curry bullet so but it was cool and and college radio is cool 16:37.000 --> 16:44.000 and these podcasts hey someone someone's holding up his iPod hold on roll on your 16:44.000 --> 16:50.000 window I'm just taking off to name here come here 16:50.000 --> 16:52.000 wait yeah 16:52.000 --> 16:59.000 but a month or okay dude yeah right dude we checked out a guy just drove up next to 16:59.000 --> 17:04.000 me and he's honking his horn and he's holding his iPod up and he's saying I'm 17:04.000 --> 17:06.000 listening 17:06.000 --> 17:09.000 God damn, I said I'm recording one right now. So Raymond buddy 17:11.000 --> 17:16.000 Wow, that's very cool. See this is what I mean. This is what it's all about. Oh, that gives me a boost of energy 17:16.000 --> 17:23.000 That's fucking great. Okay, so so this is what it's like, you know, it's it's college radio only work clearly 17:23.000 --> 17:25.000 We're mobile in more ways than one so 17:26.000 --> 17:32.000 American heartbreak I really like the songs that these guys are making you know, it's it's very 80s 17:33.000 --> 17:37.000 Intended to be that way and I think the guys probably were around in the 80s 17:37.000 --> 17:41.000 They played in a couple of different bands Exodus. I think I remember Exodus and they were heavy metal 17:41.000 --> 17:47.000 And I really heavy and now they're I'd say that the music they play is 17:50.000 --> 17:56.000 Yeah, it's punk rock it kind of it's a little more 80s and maybe a little more rock than punk than say 17:57.000 --> 18:00.000 Green Day or blink 182 or a good Charlotte 18:00.000 --> 18:03.000 But it does have the harmonies, you know, and it's just it's good rock and roll 18:04.000 --> 18:07.000 And here's a song that they chose to be played on 18:07.500 --> 18:13.500 KSFU. It's one of their favorites from their upcoming album. Released or unreleased doesn't 18:13.500 --> 18:14.500 make any difference because we're going to crack. 18:16.500 --> 18:26.500 We've freed them, Ontario! 18:26.500 --> 20:16.250 [ Music ] 20:23.750 --> 21:43.750 [ Music ] 21:49.500 --> 21:57.500 live from the Audi A8, driving on the A4 on my way to Breda from where we'll continue on to 21:59.500 --> 22:09.500 Belgium. And you're along with me for the ride. And I've been going through just a couple of podcasts. 22:10.500 --> 22:17.500 Let me see. I had one more that I had listed, I think, on my... Let me see. They have one more 22:17.500 --> 22:25.500 listed on my iPod. No, it was cool, though, although not necessarily a podcast was... 22:26.500 --> 22:33.500 IT Conversations brought me Steve Wozniak, almost two hours of him. And once I'm done with this 22:33.500 --> 22:40.500 recording, as I said, I've got 44 minutes left on the battery. So, you know, hold on, see, there's traffic. 22:40.500 --> 22:48.500 There's 12 traffic jams and all of them are about two kilometers. So about... 22:52.500 --> 22:57.500 get rid of that. Yeah, that was really cool to hear the was and I haven't finished 22:57.500 --> 23:01.500 myself to listen to the second portion but that's so nice to 23:01.500 --> 23:04.500 receive that because I tried to listen to the Nome Dex conference live and I 23:04.500 --> 23:09.500 heard some bits of it but I actually missed the was in the ex session so 23:09.500 --> 23:13.500 it's cool that we can have that. Now let me tell you about tomorrow 23:13.500 --> 23:17.500 before I forget, tomorrow being Friday, once again life will get in the way of 23:17.500 --> 23:22.500 actual work getting done. I had agreed, I don't know if you know this 23:22.500 --> 23:29.500 organization called War Child. War Child is a, they're pretty much global now I 23:29.500 --> 23:37.500 think. It started, it actually started as a Dutch initiative and it's 23:37.500 --> 23:43.500 a foundation that is mainly concerned with looking after children who are 23:43.500 --> 23:49.500 victims of war and if you see any of their promotional material you realize 23:49.500 --> 23:55.500 that even if there's war a hundred kilometers away from where kids 23:54.000 --> 23:56.000 sorry, it has such a profound impact. 23:56.000 --> 23:59.000 And they do a lot of very, very good work. 23:59.000 --> 24:03.000 And a friend of mine is on the board of War Child here in the Netherlands, could also be 24:03.000 --> 24:05.000 the European board. 24:05.000 --> 24:06.000 And she owns a restaurant. 24:06.000 --> 24:11.000 And she asked me, they're doing a Feast for Peace, which means a whole... 24:13.500 --> 24:21.500 actors and other celebrities will actually serve dinner at her restaurant. 24:21.500 --> 24:28.500 And so of course you pay like $200 for a plate and it's going to be fun. 24:28.500 --> 24:31.500 I actually waited on tables for about three years. 24:34.500 --> 24:38.500 I think I saw the experience. I don't think the suit fits me anymore, but I'll figure that out. 24:38.500 --> 24:49.500 Now, this restaurant is in Nike, which if you were to drive that, it's almost can't get there from where I live. 24:49.500 --> 24:54.500 You have to drive, you know, Caddy Corner. It just takes twice as long as if you could drive it in a straight line. 24:54.500 --> 25:01.500 And I figured that since I didn't want to do that and I had an invitation to stay overnight, 25:01.500 --> 25:04.500 I certainly don't want to drive back at midnight. 25:06.000 --> 25:08.000 on tables and probably having some good fun. 25:08.000 --> 25:12.000 So I'm going to sleep it in my friend's house. 25:12.000 --> 25:13.000 But I'm going to fly up. 25:13.000 --> 25:14.000 I'm going to take the helicopter. 25:14.000 --> 25:18.000 And I think, based on the way this is going, 25:18.000 --> 25:22.000 it shouldn't be too much of a problem to record the source 25:22.000 --> 25:26.000 code tomorrow as I fly from Antwerp. 25:26.000 --> 25:30.000 I'm going to take off from Antwerp Airport tomorrow 25:30.000 --> 25:31.000 up to Nacetic. 25:31.000 --> 25:33.000 And I'm flying solo. 25:33.000 --> 25:35.000 So you guys will be along for the ride. 25:35.000 --> 25:37.000 I have no idea how it's going to work out. 25:37.000 --> 25:40.000 And of course, I do have to concentrate. 25:40.500 --> 25:43.500 It is kind of important and I definitely won't have a hands-free. 25:43.500 --> 25:47.500 You know, it's going to be like, I'm going to get in the helicopter, I'm going to start the recording 25:47.500 --> 25:52.500 and you're going to witness everything from start-up to lift-off to the flight. 25:52.500 --> 25:57.500 I think I have to do a couple of crossings of some control zones so you hear all that. 25:57.500 --> 25:59.500 You'll hear out some other crap on the radio. 25:59.500 --> 26:02.500 And we'll just talk, we'll just shoot the breeze and we'll see how it goes. 26:02.500 --> 26:05.500 But I clearly won't have hands-free. 26:05.500 --> 26:08.500 If we're an airplane it would be okay because then once you're up in the air, you know, 26:08.500 --> 26:10.500 you have a hand-free and you shoot. 26:12.000 --> 26:16.000 most of them. You can do whatever you want. You want to know what I can do. 26:16.000 --> 26:21.000 But in the helicopter you need both feet and both hands pretty much at all time. 26:24.000 --> 26:29.000 one hand on the on the cyclic which is what you'd call the stick you know that 26:29.000 --> 26:33.000 makes you go forward left forward back left right whatever and then the 26:33.000 --> 26:37.000 collective which is that handle that kind of looks like a parking brake which 26:37.000 --> 26:41.000 is on the left that actually gives you the power and everything's in unison 26:41.000 --> 26:45.000 when you pull up the collective you know you've got to depress your left foot 26:45.000 --> 26:48.000 a little bit and you've got to move the cyclic forward so it's all kind of a 26:48.000 --> 26:52.000 ballet motion and there's just no room for well there's no room for error 26:52.000 --> 26:59.000 first of all so I'm looking forward to that so the source codes will be a 26:59.000 --> 27:01.000 little bit different and then of course over the weekend all of 27:06.000 --> 27:10.000 We're pretty much guaranteed that we'll have lots of new bits to play. 27:10.000 --> 27:12.000 So look forward to that. 27:12.000 --> 27:14.000 Let's see, what do I want to talk about? 27:14.000 --> 27:16.000 There were a couple of things. 27:16.000 --> 27:18.000 Hold on, let me just take a drag here. 27:18.000 --> 27:23.000 This, by the way, is not what you think it is today. 27:23.000 --> 27:25.000 I'm cheating. Just a little bit of tobacco. 27:25.000 --> 27:28.000 Just to remind me that I'm smoking something. 27:28.000 --> 27:29.000 So I'm being totally safe. 27:29.000 --> 27:34.000 Oh yeah, and also when we fly, we don't smoke either. 27:34.000 --> 27:37.000 I want to talk a little bit about the election. 27:37.000 --> 27:44.000 And on Trade Secrets, Dave Weiner and I, if you haven't heard the podcast, I suggest you check it out. 27:44.000 --> 27:46.000 Hopefully you'll subscribe. 27:46.000 --> 27:51.000 Secrets.scripting.com, or of course you can get to it from iPodder.org. 27:51.000 --> 28:00.000 We talk a lot about President Bush, about the elections, about the state of the country, about the war in Iraq, 28:00.000 --> 28:07.000 something that even though I blogged it, I maybe just want to talk just a little bit about Iraq, because I went there. 28:07.500 --> 28:12.500 In February, we did, and God, I wish we had podcasting then, 28:12.500 --> 28:17.500 I did an entire week live from Camp Smity in Asamawa, 28:17.500 --> 28:22.500 that's southwest of Baghdad, in Asamawa, Iraq, 28:22.500 --> 28:25.500 where the Dutch Marines were stationed, still our station. 28:25.500 --> 28:28.500 Actually, the Marines were there, now they've changed. 28:30.000 --> 28:34.000 the Air Force that's there now. And they have regular ground troops. It's a little confusing, 28:34.000 --> 28:35.000 but it's just different departments. 28:37.500 --> 28:41.500 uniforms and different vehicles, but otherwise it's pretty much the same deal. 28:41.500 --> 28:48.500 And so, so, so, so, A, when I saw the presidential debate and they were talking about the coalition, 28:48.500 --> 28:53.500 or the lack of the coalition, and sure, Bush came up with Tony Blair, you know, what do 28:53.500 --> 28:55.500 you say to Tony Blair when, you know, there was no coalition? 28:55.500 --> 28:59.500 Well, yeah, of course there's, we know that Tony Blair and the United Kingdom were in 28:59.500 --> 29:00.500 the coalition. 29:00.500 --> 29:03.500 But a lot of other countries got sucked in besides just Poland. 29:03.500 --> 29:06.500 God, our president remembered Poland. 29:06.500 --> 29:09.500 We never mentioned the Netherlands. 29:09.500 --> 29:14.500 We got 1,200 guys and gals there right now, two of whom have been killed in action. 29:14.500 --> 29:18.500 Never read that in the press anywhere in the US press, not that I found at least. 29:18.500 --> 29:22.500 So, you know, we're feeling a bit of the war, granted not on the same level as the 29:22.500 --> 29:26.500 states, but it's also a big issue. 29:26.500 --> 29:31.500 And, you know, the Netherlands got Shanghai into it. 29:31.500 --> 29:33.500 No one wanted our marines to go. 29:33.500 --> 29:36.500 Our marines, of course, went and we support them. 29:36.500 --> 29:38.500 That was the whole point of the broad. 29:39.000 --> 29:43.000 was just to support the troops, which is not a very European thing. 29:43.000 --> 29:46.000 It's a very American thing, and that's why it's often frowned upon, 29:46.000 --> 29:48.000 but we just said, fuck that. 29:48.000 --> 29:51.000 We turned everything on its head and we went out and we went to support the troops, 29:51.000 --> 29:54.000 and it turned out to be absolutely just beautiful. 29:54.000 --> 29:58.000 But anyway, the Netherlands got Shanghai'd in, and I'll tell you why. 29:58.000 --> 30:00.000 Part of it was the Joint Strike Fighter. 30:00.000 --> 30:02.000 I don't know if you've ever heard of this, 30:02.000 --> 30:08.000 but this is the new jet fighter that all the NATO partners have agreed 30:08.000 --> 30:11.000 that this is the one they're going to build. 30:11.000 --> 30:13.000 There's a lot of money involved in building of it. 30:13.000 --> 30:17.000 A lot of money had to be paid to be a part of the program, 30:17.000 --> 30:21.000 and the way that works is then your country can bid on projects. 30:21.000 --> 30:25.000 Well, guess what? How many projects did the Netherlands get for... 30:31.500 --> 30:40.500 And on top of that, the new NATO chief, Jaap de Hoop Schaeffer, who you probably heard 30:40.500 --> 30:44.500 his name pronounced as, Jaap de Hoop Schaeffer, he's a Dutch guy. 30:44.500 --> 30:48.500 So this was all politics and it was all lined up. 30:48.500 --> 30:52.500 If the Netherlands wanted to have their spot on the global stage in NATO, if you can 30:52.500 --> 30:56.500 still call that a spot on the global stage, then of course they had to participate in 30:56.500 --> 30:57.500 the invasion in Iraq. 30:57.500 --> 31:01.500 I didn't participate in the invasion, but they have been participating in the 31:01.500 --> 31:05.500 rebuilding of Iraq, which has changed since I was there. 31:05.500 --> 31:11.500 But when I went there, and I've never been in military service, I had no idea. 31:11.500 --> 31:12.500 I've never been to a desert. 31:12.500 --> 31:12.500 I've been to the outback. 31:18.000 --> 31:24.000 And just a couple of impressions. 31:24.000 --> 31:28.000 The first one is that it is very, very dangerous there. 31:28.000 --> 31:31.000 But it wasn't at the time necessarily dangerous 31:31.000 --> 31:40.000 because the coalition forces were seen as an invading force. 31:40.000 --> 31:44.000 In fact, when I was there, the people in Asimawa, 31:44.000 --> 31:49.000 and I went to five different marine camps in the surrounding area, 31:49.000 --> 31:57.000 including Taliil Air Base, which is the biggest camp of all in Iraq, 31:57.000 --> 32:00.000 which is even more southern Asimawa, but that's where they've got... 32:00.000 --> 32:04.000 Well, that's a huge US Air Force base. 32:04.000 --> 32:06.000 The Dutch are there, the Italians are there. 32:06.000 --> 32:07.000 I didn't hear George mention the Italians. 32:07.000 --> 32:10.000 Pretty big country there, George, looking like a boot. 32:10.000 --> 32:12.000 You could have remembered that one, but no, you were... 32:13.500 --> 32:20.500 The Japanese have 800 guys there, so granted that's nothing in comparison to the US, but 32:20.500 --> 32:27.500 I saw with my own eyes how the Iraqi population was elated. 32:27.500 --> 32:30.500 They were so happy, and it didn't matter what country you were from. 32:30.500 --> 32:35.500 The troops, the kids were running up and down, running after the jeeps and sticking their 32:35.500 --> 32:40.500 thumbs up in the air and saying, you know, we're happy you're here because they've 32:40.500 --> 32:41.500 been doing rebuilding. 32:41.500 --> 32:43.500 I actually saw it. 32:43.500 --> 32:44.500 I saw the rebuilding of schools. 32:44.500 --> 32:49.500 I saw the rebuild of the water plant. 32:49.500 --> 32:53.500 The refinery, which by the way, if you know anything about refineries, and I didn't 32:53.500 --> 32:56.500 until then, building a refinery is incredibly difficult. 32:56.500 --> 32:58.500 It's very, very expensive. 32:58.500 --> 33:02.500 It can cost hundreds of millions. 33:02.500 --> 33:11.500 But also training Iraqi police force, the ICDC, which is the Iraqi ICDC 33:11.500 --> 33:14.500 stand for, the Iraqi Coalition. 33:15.000 --> 33:17.000 defense initiative something like 33:19.500 --> 33:23.500 And the vibe was basically good. 33:23.500 --> 33:28.500 Where it gets dangerous, where it was dangerous at the time was the transport. 33:28.500 --> 33:33.500 We actually drove from Kuwait City in Kuwait all the way to Asimala. 33:33.500 --> 33:38.500 That's about 350 miles, I think. 33:38.500 --> 33:45.500 And it was just two Land Rovers, our crew, which was five guys, and then four Marines 33:45.500 --> 33:47.500 who escorted us. 33:47.500 --> 33:50.500 It's crazy because you don't know what to expect, right? 33:50.500 --> 33:55.500 And you're driving away from Kuwait, and then you pass the border into Iraq. 33:55.500 --> 33:58.500 And it's a six-lane highway. 33:58.500 --> 34:02.500 Granted, the overpasses and the bridges that you travel under 34:02.500 --> 34:05.500 don't connect on either side of it, blown to bits. 34:05.500 --> 34:06.500 But it's a six-lane highway. 34:06.500 --> 34:08.500 It's unbelievable. 34:08.500 --> 34:11.500 Now the thing is, you have to drive in the middle because 34:13.500 --> 34:17.500 transports from Kubite all the way to Baghdad come over this one road and 34:17.500 --> 34:24.500 that's where all the trouble would start is hijacked if a truck just had a 34:24.500 --> 34:28.500 breakdown it would have to move off to the side of the road within minutes in 34:28.500 --> 34:33.500 the middle of the desert upward pop 50 60 people just you know coming closer 34:33.500 --> 34:37.500 and closer and if you're anywhere near town it could be five to six hundred 34:38.500 --> 34:43.500 if a truck is left alone within an hour and a half it's completely stripped of 34:43.500 --> 34:50.500 cargo every mirror light steering wheel piece of rubber every usable bit and of 34:50.500 --> 34:55.500 course riots happen because you know people are you know fighting over the 34:55.500 --> 35:02.500 spoils of whatever is left and combat combat that what the troops resorted to 35:02.500 --> 35:06.500 doing eventually is if a truck broke down they couldn't tow it away they 35:06.500 --> 35:09.500 blow it up they torch it and they blow it up right on the spot so there'll be no 35:09.500 --> 35:16.500 no problems but of course you know you've got bad bad people ever 35:15.000 --> 35:21.000 everywhere, and you have to drive in the middle of the six lane highway because of what they 35:21.000 --> 35:26.000 call IEDs, intentional explosive devices. 35:26.000 --> 35:30.000 Basically means that they'd stick a bomb in a dead dog by the side of the road and you 35:30.000 --> 35:31.000 pass by and it would blow up. 35:33.000 --> 35:37.000 So at the time we were there and we went and met with people in villages 35:37.000 --> 35:40.000 I went with the commander of the the Dutch Marines without 35:41.000 --> 35:45.000 Protective gear on without flak jackets without helmets into the town 35:45.000 --> 35:51.000 Just to go to the barber shop to meet with the locals and show that we you know had all the best intentions by not wearing our 35:51.000 --> 35:53.000 protective gear 35:55.500 --> 36:00.500 And it was really, I was very, very impressed and very impressed with the work that our 36:00.500 --> 36:05.500 Marines were doing, very impressed with the central provisional authority, the CPA, which 36:05.500 --> 36:11.500 is what at the time was Paul Bremmer's fund and how money was being dispersed. 36:11.500 --> 36:12.500 I witnessed it. 36:12.500 --> 36:16.500 They could not put on a show for me there because we would have seen right through it. 36:16.500 --> 36:21.500 And we had access to everything, could talk to anybody, anything we wanted to do, and 36:21.500 --> 36:22.500 we were broadcasting it. 36:22.500 --> 36:24.500 We were blogging it. 36:24.500 --> 36:25.500 It was phenomenal. 36:25.500 --> 36:27.500 However, it did change. 36:27.500 --> 36:33.500 And it changed because there was no change, basically. 36:36.000 --> 36:44.000 from outside of Iraq, terrorists, people who hate America, who hate Europe, who hate anyone, 36:44.000 --> 36:48.000 maybe who's not Muslim, possibly, they're coming from all over the place. They're coming from 36:48.000 --> 36:55.000 different countries. They're coming into Iraq, and they are one of the main causes of trouble. 36:56.000 --> 37:00.000 So it's not the Iraqi people. And I think I'm probably preaching to the choir when, you know, 37:00.000 --> 37:07.000 that we all know this by now. But the one thing, and I guarantee you the Dutch troops are leaving 37:07.000 --> 37:10.000 in March, they said they'd stay until March and they're getting the fuck out. 37:12.000 --> 37:16.000 because the country is pissed off that they were sent there under false pretenses to start 37:16.000 --> 37:22.000 off with weapons of mass destruction, brought into a coalition with all kinds of political 37:22.000 --> 37:26.000 bullshit so that we could get our spot on the world stage with NATO and all that, and 37:26.000 --> 37:28.000 they're tired of it. 37:28.000 --> 37:35.000 And the masses here are, what do you call it? 37:35.000 --> 37:36.000 There's unrest? 37:36.000 --> 37:38.000 They call it unrest, yeah, unrest. 37:38.000 --> 37:41.000 People are, you know, strikes are planned. 37:41.000 --> 37:43.000 They're just not happy with the government at all now. 37:43.000 --> 37:47.000 And our troops will be coming back in March. 37:47.000 --> 37:50.000 And I think that the work is pretty much done. 37:50.000 --> 37:54.000 And when I say the work, and this is why I bring this up, they have rebuilt the schools, 37:54.000 --> 37:56.000 they have rebuilt the water plant. 37:56.000 --> 38:02.000 I can't speak for the refinery, but you know, I'm not just not sure what's going on there. 38:02.000 --> 38:05.000 They have trained local police forces. 38:05.000 --> 38:09.000 They have trained the ICDC, which is kind of like also a security force. 38:09.000 --> 38:13.000 I think they've probably weeded out the bad elements because that was very hard. 38:13.500 --> 38:17.500 you know, who's telling the truth, who's bullshitting, all of a sudden you're handing him an AK-47 38:17.500 --> 38:20.500 so he could turn around and use on you. 38:20.500 --> 38:24.500 And the work is done. 38:24.500 --> 38:28.500 The only other thing left to do is to pick up troublemakers. 38:28.500 --> 38:32.500 And now there's just trouble. 38:32.500 --> 38:35.500 And there's no more bombs being... 38:35.500 --> 38:37.500 There's no more... 38:39.000 --> 38:48.000 It's how can I best say this it's over it's done with you know the the the the shit that that Saddam created particularly in that area has been 38:49.500 --> 38:51.500 We built, taken care of, things are set up. 38:51.500 --> 38:55.500 They have 10, 15, maybe 20 years to go before they can reset that. 38:55.500 --> 38:59.500 But now the only thing we're doing is just protecting our own ass. 38:59.500 --> 39:03.500 The U.S. servicemen and women, all they're doing is they're protecting their own ass. 39:03.500 --> 39:07.500 They're not protecting U.S. assets or interests. 39:07.500 --> 39:09.500 They're protecting their own ass, and rightly so. 39:09.500 --> 39:12.500 Because it's not U.S. interests. 39:12.500 --> 39:18.500 It's George Bush's interests, Dick Cheney's interests, and Halliburton. 39:18.500 --> 39:21.500 It's the Carlyle, is that it? 39:21.500 --> 39:22.500 The Carlyle Investment Group. 39:22.500 --> 39:27.500 That's who's interests they're protecting, and they're not being fairly told that that's what they're doing. 39:27.500 --> 39:32.500 And in this country, and in most countries in Europe where I can speak the language, 39:32.500 --> 39:34.500 or have been able to read whatever they're talking about. 39:36.000 --> 39:42.000 Everybody knows by now and fully agrees and are not being there's no media bullshit about 39:42.000 --> 39:46.000 oh yeah but you know Iraq is responsible for 9-11. 39:46.000 --> 39:48.000 It's not true. 39:48.000 --> 39:53.000 Everyone here is saying hey where where's Osama bin Laden they're on to it. 39:55.500 --> 40:00.500 will be a much better place if at least George Bush is no longer president and Dick Cheney 40:00.500 --> 40:02.500 is no longer vice president and Donald Rumsfeld 40:04.500 --> 40:09.500 where he can put young lives of young men and women at risk. 40:10.500 --> 40:12.500 Easy for me to say, of course, being 40 40:12.500 --> 40:14.500 and not being eligible for a draft, 40:14.500 --> 40:16.500 although I do remember having to register 40:16.500 --> 40:18.500 in the early 90s, I had to register for the draft 40:19.500 --> 40:23.500 when the first Gulf War happened. 40:23.500 --> 40:25.500 But this is crazy, it's just crazy. 40:25.500 --> 40:28.500 And I haven't really been able to talk 40:28.500 --> 40:31.500 about the experience as much, having been there, 40:32.500 --> 40:35.500 because you really build up such a bond 40:35.500 --> 40:37.500 and a brothership and sister ship 40:37.500 --> 40:41.500 with these people, with the troops there and the Marines. 40:41.500 --> 40:42.500 And I really got... 40:46.500 --> 40:51.500 And we need to get them out. We need to get them out. Iraq is... 40:51.500 --> 40:58.500 I think Baghdad. Baghdad is fucked. Baghdad is a big problem there. 40:58.500 --> 41:01.500 There's no more records. They can't hold an election. 41:01.500 --> 41:06.500 The town hall with all the... there's no registration. Everyone has to go register again. 41:06.500 --> 41:11.500 It's a scam. It's a freaking scam. And as far as I'm concerned, 41:11.500 --> 41:16.500 we need to get out. And the only way to definitely get out on any reasonable time scale 41:16.500 --> 41:21.500 is to get George Bush out and get someone in. And I would obviously say John Kerry, 41:21.500 --> 41:26.500 who is going to promise us that he's going to get our troops back within a reasonable amount of time. 41:26.500 --> 41:31.500 We're going to hold them to it. Or we should just show our power and go vote 41:31.500 --> 41:36.500 and kick him out as well. We have that power. Absolutely have that power. 41:36.500 --> 41:39.500 And now with these podcasts, I think we have additional power. 41:39.500 --> 41:43.500 Now we have the power of voice. We can really talk about what our feelings are. 41:43.500 --> 41:47.500 But still, I think sometimes comes over even a little bit better than... 41:48.000 --> 41:52.000 than the written word, which of course is not to be underestimated. 41:52.000 --> 41:56.000 So anyway, I have registered to vote by proxy. 41:56.000 --> 41:59.000 It is very difficult to do that. 41:59.000 --> 42:03.000 You ever notice how they never make it easy to do that stuff? 42:03.000 --> 42:05.000 It's just why I thought MTV was great. 42:06.000 --> 42:09.000 You get your license, you get your voter registration. 42:09.000 --> 42:13.000 The motor voter bill I think it was, and MTV really plugged the hell out of that. 42:13.000 --> 42:19.000 Doing this by proxy, it's like, yeah, you might be able to fax it, 42:19.000 --> 42:23.000 but you're pretty much going to have to mail this stuff back and forth. 42:27.000 --> 42:31.000 How election day falls almost exactly six months 42:33.000 --> 42:35.000 From tax day 42:35.000 --> 42:38.000 It's on the opposite side of the calendar 42:38.000 --> 42:46.000 I say we should have election day right after you pay your taxes and what and after you you figure out what you paid your taxes for 42:48.000 --> 42:56.000 Okay, let me get off the soapbox here. It is by now 722 is getting kind of dark. I can see that we've been at 43:03.000 --> 43:06.000 It's been a pretty uneventful ride, so far. 43:06.000 --> 43:06.000 Thinking of anything else. 43:06.000 --> 43:07.000 Ooh. 43:07.000 --> 43:08.000 Yeah, there's one thing I did want 43:08.000 --> 43:11.000 to talk about when it comes to users and developers 43:11.000 --> 43:14.000 partying together. 43:14.000 --> 43:17.000 I've been thinking a lot about iPod or how it works. 43:17.000 --> 43:22.000 And of course, I hope you saw that iPod or 1.0 has been 43:22.000 --> 43:23.000 released. 43:23.000 --> 43:25.000 This is for Windows and for the Mac. 43:25.000 --> 43:26.000 It works. 43:26.000 --> 43:29.000 I just called a buddy in the States who has Windows and 43:29.000 --> 43:31.000 someone who I know is a total user. 43:31.000 --> 43:36.000 And he installed it and got the welcome file and everything 43:36.000 --> 43:36.000 worked. 43:36.000 --> 43:39.000 But then he said, OK, but now when I want to subscribe to 43:39.000 --> 43:41.000 something, I knew it was coming, right? 43:41.000 --> 43:43.000 When I want to subscribe to something, why do I have to 43:43.000 --> 43:45.000 like click on this link? 43:52.500 --> 43:58.500 When it comes to mankind and doing that with technology, it's a big hassle. 43:58.500 --> 44:03.500 And you can see there's proof of this, there's prior art if we just look at web blocks. 44:03.500 --> 44:08.500 There's lots and lots of icons that will let you subscribe to an aggregator. 44:08.500 --> 44:13.500 So there's an icon for blog lines, there's an icon for feedster, there's an icon for 44:13.500 --> 44:17.500 radio user land, which is okay. 44:17.500 --> 44:21.500 But when it comes to iPodder, I don't think that's the way to go. 44:21.500 --> 44:24.500 I don't think we want to have, well, this is for iPodder Java, 44:24.500 --> 44:29.500 this is for iPodder X, this is for iPodder.net, this is for 44:29.500 --> 44:31.500 iSpider or PiPodder. 44:31.500 --> 44:34.500 We don't want to have that because we just want to have one single uniform. 44:34.500 --> 44:39.500 But now this is, and I can probably just see Dave Weiner rolling his eyes right now 44:39.500 --> 44:40.500 saying, no, don't go there. 44:40.500 --> 44:42.500 You can't do it, it can't be done. 44:42.500 --> 44:46.500 I just want to put a call out to the developers of the iPodders and 44:46.500 --> 44:49.500 the users who are partying with them on this. 44:49.500 --> 44:53.500 We should think about a standardized module. 44:54.000 --> 44:58.000 And we've already done so much really good work when it comes to standardizing how we're 44:58.000 --> 44:59.000 doing things. 44:59.000 --> 45:03.000 And we all can be so proud of that in such a short time span. 45:03.000 --> 45:10.000 But we should consider making a module and making that into iPodder so that you can 45:10.000 --> 45:17.000 subscribe to a podcast from a website just by clicking on a logo. 45:17.000 --> 45:19.000 Now, of course, it's easy to put in. 45:19.000 --> 45:21.000 I even saw someone made a podcast button. 45:21.000 --> 45:25.000 So that art is already there. 45:25.000 --> 45:30.000 And of course, you can just link your RSS file or URL. 45:31.500 --> 45:35.500 a little logo, but you're still going to have to do a copy and paste. 45:35.500 --> 45:45.500 Now the way this works with the Weblog software is, so I'll just take RadioUserLand as an example. 45:45.500 --> 45:51.500 You basically have a little tiny web server running on your own machine. 45:51.500 --> 45:57.500 So when you click on that link, it's actually pointing to the web server on your machine. 45:57.500 --> 46:06.500 And then that web server receives the subscription URL and then knows to send it off to the aggregator 46:06.500 --> 46:11.500 portion, so to the iPodder feeds. 46:11.500 --> 46:13.500 It's not trivial to set that up. 46:13.500 --> 46:14.500 By far it's trivial. 46:14.500 --> 46:22.500 And even harder is to make the subscription engine the same for every iPodder. 46:22.500 --> 46:27.500 I'm just throwing it out there to see what comes back. 46:27.500 --> 46:32.500 But if we want to really complete the final user experience. 46:33.000 --> 46:38.000 really really really can make this fly. We have to be able to tune into our podcast 46:38.000 --> 46:43.000 and that tuning in has got to be a little bit more simple than the copy paste. I 46:43.000 --> 46:45.000 know that 46:46.500 --> 46:50.500 You subscribe to stuff, people using aggregators do it all the time. 46:50.500 --> 46:52.500 But I doubt that people using blog lines do it all the time. 46:52.500 --> 46:57.500 I think probably a lot of people using blog lines, which is a centralized aggregator, will 46:57.500 --> 47:04.500 only subscribe or most likely only subscribe mainly to web logs that carry the blog lines 47:04.500 --> 47:05.500 subscription logo. 47:05.500 --> 47:10.500 So something to think about before we get into a whole bunch of other features and functionality. 47:10.500 --> 47:13.500 That's a glaring thing that we should at least think about. 47:16.500 --> 47:17.500 that should be possible 47:17.500 --> 47:19.500 uh... 47:19.500 --> 47:20.500 let's try 47:20.500 --> 47:22.500 to not have a lot 47:22.500 --> 47:25.500 david yes i can hear david whiter screaming saying no no no no he's 47:25.500 --> 47:26.500 screaming at his ipod now 47:26.500 --> 47:30.500 but i think it's actually possible i want to give it a shot you know as long 47:30.500 --> 47:32.500 as i don't break anything in the process we keep all the others 47:34.500 --> 47:36.500 I think we'll be okay. 47:36.500 --> 47:38.500 Um... boy. 47:38.500 --> 47:42.500 Man, I've got a dry mouth from all this talk. 47:42.500 --> 47:48.500 Um... tomorrow, as said, on the podcast. 47:48.500 --> 47:53.500 Which you may not receive until Saturday, now that I think about it. 47:53.500 --> 47:58.500 Oh no, wait a minute, my buddy will have a connection with me to pop it up. 47:58.500 --> 48:03.500 Yeah, I'll be able to do that tomorrow before I actually start doing the waiting thing. 48:03.500 --> 48:06.500 We'll be flying together. 48:06.500 --> 48:11.500 So I'm looking forward to that because it's probably going to be the first podcast ever done. 48:11.500 --> 48:13.500 Yeah, from the air. 48:13.500 --> 48:18.500 Alrighty, let me just see if I can do this, the final bit here, hold on a second. 48:18.500 --> 48:22.500 Just moving my finger across the screen. 48:22.500 --> 48:27.500 Oops, I don't want to do anything too drastic. 48:27.500 --> 48:30.500 Okay, uh... yeah, that's it everybody. 48:30.500 --> 48:35.500 Thanks for listening to the source code for October 7th. 48:36.000 --> 48:38.000 2014 48:55.500 --> 48:58.500 The power of your influence. 48:58.500 --> 48:59.500 And we'll see you tomorrow. 48:59.500 --> 49:01.500 I'll come into you from... 49:01.500 --> 49:02.500 We'll see you tomorrow between... 49:11.250 --> 49:31.250 [ Music ]