WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.000 How are you all doing? 00:03.000 --> 00:06.000 Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome. 00:06.000 --> 00:12.000 Friends, family, global dominating world leaders. Welcome to the daily source code. I'm Adam Curry. 00:12.000 --> 00:29.000 Coming to you from Amsterdam, the Netherlands today, from the bunker on the canal. 00:29.000 --> 00:34.000 Oh, thank God, it's Monday, huh? 00:34.000 --> 00:40.000 Because Monday always reminds you that there's a whole new week of fascinating stuff up ahead. 00:40.000 --> 00:44.000 There's so much that can be happening, that will be happening. 00:44.000 --> 00:47.000 And there's a lot to talk about that did happen. 00:47.000 --> 00:51.000 Or maybe a little more specifically, some stuff that didn't happen. 00:51.000 --> 00:57.000 If you were somewhat annoyed or disappointed that there was no source code Friday or Friday night, 00:57.000 --> 01:00.000 or there's nothing sitting there waiting for you on Saturday. 01:00.000 --> 01:07.000 You were probably waiting for the helicopter flight addition of the daily source code. 01:07.000 --> 01:11.000 Well, I'll guess what, it didn't happen. I'll explain why. 01:11.000 --> 01:18.000 Because the root of the theme song here for a second, I'm tired of that. 01:18.000 --> 01:23.000 First of all, so yeah, Patricia and I are in Amsterdam today. 01:23.000 --> 01:29.000 She's at the dentist, finally finishing up all the rather nasty dental works. 01:29.000 --> 01:34.000 She's had in the past couple of years. So everything's great, and she's happy to be done. 01:34.000 --> 01:37.000 And so I had time here to finish up a couple things. 01:37.000 --> 01:41.000 And we're still winding down just about everything we can here, so that when we leave, 01:41.000 --> 01:46.000 which would be around the end of November when we moved to the UK, everything will be pretty much done. 01:46.000 --> 01:52.000 Unfortunately, I still have this humongous house in Amsterdam, which, well, the housing market right now is just not good. 01:52.000 --> 01:58.000 People who live in the Netherlands are not really buying houses, so clearly a lot aren't selling, 01:58.000 --> 02:06.000 and it's hard to find the right people folks coming over from other countries looking for something like this. 02:06.000 --> 02:08.000 This is a big place. 02:08.000 --> 02:12.000 Anyway, thinking of things to do with that. 02:12.000 --> 02:16.000 But back to Friday and Saturday, what the plan was, 02:16.000 --> 02:23.000 I've been asked to be a celebrity waiter at a special benefit dinner for war child. 02:23.000 --> 02:25.000 Feast for peace is what it was called. 02:25.000 --> 02:30.000 And there were several other Dutch celebrities there, and it actually was a lot of hard work, 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 about 200 people that had to be served. 02:32.000 --> 02:36.000 Part of them were on a buffet, some others on a set menu, 02:36.000 --> 02:41.000 but I used to waiter in a rather classy restaurant in Audeca, 02:41.000 --> 02:44.000 called The Old Prince, The Out of Prince. 02:44.000 --> 02:50.000 And I wore the three-piece suit and the bow tie, and really worked my ass off when I was like 17. 02:50.000 --> 02:54.000 And even a little bit younger than even 16 is when I started there. 02:54.000 --> 02:58.000 I did that for about three years, so I definitely know how to do it, 02:58.000 --> 03:00.000 and I know how it works, and know how it restaurant runs. 03:00.000 --> 03:04.000 It was a little on handy as they had two floors, and the kitchen was on the top floor, 03:04.000 --> 03:08.000 so anything that was delivered downstairs had to be taken down by the stairs, 03:08.000 --> 03:12.000 and the dirty plates had to be taken up, so that was kind of a bummer. 03:12.000 --> 03:14.000 But I'd promised to do this. 03:14.000 --> 03:20.000 It was about 200 kilometers, so let's say about 110 miles from my house, 03:20.000 --> 03:21.000 each way. 03:21.000 --> 03:23.000 I knew it was going to be really late by the time we were done. 03:23.000 --> 03:26.000 So I said to the organizers, who I knew to friends of mine, I said, 03:26.000 --> 03:28.000 I'll tell you what, I'm going to fly to your house, 03:28.000 --> 03:29.000 which is nearby. 03:29.000 --> 03:31.000 It's their restaurant nearby the restaurant. 03:31.000 --> 03:33.000 Then I'll pick you up. 03:33.000 --> 03:35.000 We'll fly to the restaurant. 03:35.000 --> 03:36.000 Then we'll do our thing. 03:36.000 --> 03:39.000 We'll leave the helicopter there, and then the next morning, 03:39.000 --> 03:43.000 you just take me over to the restaurant, and I'll fly back home. 03:43.000 --> 03:46.000 And the plan was, since I was going to be up on myself, 03:46.000 --> 03:48.000 was to hook up the recording equipment. 03:48.000 --> 03:49.000 I've done this before. 03:49.000 --> 03:50.000 It works perfectly. 03:50.000 --> 03:55.000 I have the wireless mic set, and I just put the little lovelier mic 03:55.000 --> 03:58.000 inside my headphone, because when I talk through the microphone 03:58.000 --> 04:01.000 on the headset, you'll hear me through the inner-com system, 04:01.000 --> 04:04.000 and you'll also hear what's going on with air traffic control. 04:04.000 --> 04:07.000 Now, on, I left late, so Friday afternoon, 04:07.000 --> 04:08.000 this is funny. 04:08.000 --> 04:11.000 All the air bases, all the air force bases in the Netherlands, 04:11.000 --> 04:12.000 they're always closed. 04:12.000 --> 04:13.000 Or they'd closed early on Fridays. 04:13.000 --> 04:14.000 They're closed all weekend. 04:14.000 --> 04:17.000 It's a perfect time to attack Holland if you're planning 04:17.000 --> 04:19.000 a stealth attack, because they just closed. 04:19.000 --> 04:20.000 There's no one there. 04:20.000 --> 04:21.000 Literally, no one there. 04:21.000 --> 04:23.000 So there's also no air traffic control, 04:23.000 --> 04:27.000 and around each of these, the basically airports, 04:27.000 --> 04:30.000 so these bases, there's a control zone that can reach 04:30.000 --> 04:33.000 several miles wide, and you have to request a crossing. 04:33.000 --> 04:36.000 Usually, you ask them, the air traffic control 04:36.000 --> 04:38.000 around the ground, and these control zones. 04:38.000 --> 04:41.000 So, they've not being there. 04:41.000 --> 04:45.000 You have to talk to Dutch military info. 04:45.000 --> 04:47.000 And Dutch military info is kind of the default 04:47.000 --> 04:49.000 that you go back to, if you can't reach somebody, 04:49.000 --> 04:52.000 or if you want to know something about a certain area, 04:52.000 --> 04:54.000 that's their flight information service. 04:54.000 --> 04:56.000 And it was so beautiful. 04:56.000 --> 04:59.000 The weather was just so phenomenal that everybody 04:59.000 --> 05:02.000 and their freaking dog was in the air. 05:02.000 --> 05:04.000 I swear to God, excuse me. 05:04.000 --> 05:06.000 You're right, math. 05:06.000 --> 05:09.000 There are days that go by when I don't hear a single soul 05:09.000 --> 05:10.000 on the radio. 05:10.000 --> 05:12.000 There's no one in the air, but me and KLM basically, 05:12.000 --> 05:15.000 and they're 30,000 feet higher than I am. 05:15.000 --> 05:17.000 And today, everybody was up. 05:17.000 --> 05:18.000 There were gliders. 05:18.000 --> 05:19.000 There were ultra lides. 05:19.000 --> 05:22.000 There were lots of fixed wing aircraft. 05:22.000 --> 05:24.000 There were some helicopters. 05:24.000 --> 05:26.000 Everything was flying around. 05:26.000 --> 05:30.000 And since I couldn't just listen to the specific frequency 05:30.000 --> 05:33.000 that I needed in a new one of these air bases, 05:33.000 --> 05:36.000 I had to listen to Dutch mil info. 05:36.000 --> 05:38.000 And it was so busy. 05:38.000 --> 05:40.000 And I really wanted to pay attention because, 05:40.000 --> 05:42.000 you got people zooming around at a thousand feet, 05:42.000 --> 05:43.000 which is about my height. 05:43.000 --> 05:44.000 That's where I usually fly. 05:44.000 --> 05:45.000 Sometimes a bit lower. 05:45.000 --> 05:48.000 700 feet is what helicopters like to fly. 05:48.000 --> 05:50.000 But there's people all over the place. 05:50.000 --> 05:52.000 Especially gliders. 05:52.000 --> 05:54.000 And there's only one air traffic controller 05:54.000 --> 05:56.000 controlling all of these areas. 05:56.000 --> 05:58.000 And so either I would have to turn the sound down, 05:58.000 --> 06:01.000 which would be unsafe to say the least, 06:01.000 --> 06:04.000 because you definitely want to hear what's going on. 06:04.000 --> 06:07.000 And just where everybody is, 06:07.000 --> 06:12.000 as you can get a little global picture of what's happening. 06:12.000 --> 06:15.000 Or you would be distracted by it because, 06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 and I would be distracted by it and couldn't talk. 06:17.000 --> 06:19.000 So Friday was bad. 06:19.000 --> 06:21.000 Of course, the weather Saturday was even better. 06:21.000 --> 06:23.000 All the control zones were closed. 06:23.000 --> 06:25.000 Everybody was out again. 06:25.000 --> 06:27.000 So I just decided not to do it, 06:27.000 --> 06:29.000 because it would either be unsafe, 06:29.000 --> 06:31.000 or just I don't think it would be that entertaining. 06:31.000 --> 06:33.000 So I owe you that one, 06:33.000 --> 06:34.000 and we'll definitely do it, 06:34.000 --> 06:36.000 because I think it's cool. 06:36.000 --> 06:38.000 I think you'll enjoy flying along, 06:38.000 --> 06:39.000 and just listening what's happening, 06:39.000 --> 06:41.000 and I'll talk you through some of the stuff I'm doing, 06:41.000 --> 06:43.000 and we can just talk about stuff. 06:43.000 --> 06:45.000 So for today, 06:45.000 --> 06:47.000 I figured I'd try and make a little bit good, 06:47.000 --> 06:50.000 and kick it off with a nice song for this Monday, 06:50.000 --> 06:53.000 which is a promise for the future. 06:53.000 --> 06:55.000 Oh, blue eyes on the daily source code. 06:55.000 --> 06:57.000 It's about aviation. 06:58.750 --> 07:30.000 [ Music ] 07:30.000 --> 07:33.000 and it'll tutt his flute for you. 07:33.000 --> 07:35.000 Come fly with me, 07:35.000 --> 07:39.000 let's take off in the blue. 07:39.000 --> 09:53.750 [ Music ] 09:55.000 --> 10:00.000 Pack up, let's fly away. 10:00.000 --> 10:03.000 I believe with Nelson Riddle. 10:03.000 --> 10:04.000 Frank Sinatra, 10:04.000 --> 10:06.000 come fly with me. 10:06.000 --> 10:08.000 We're just kind of how I feel about what we're doing with iPod. 10:08.000 --> 10:10.000 We're all just flying along here, 10:10.000 --> 10:13.000 and everyone's allowed to jump on and fly along. 10:13.000 --> 10:16.000 It's extremely nice. 10:16.000 --> 10:18.000 So we were talking, 10:18.000 --> 10:20.000 I don't know how long ago it was, 10:20.000 --> 10:22.000 but we've been talking often on about 10:22.000 --> 10:25.000 the genre setting in these podcasts. 10:25.000 --> 10:26.000 If you have an MP3 player, 10:26.000 --> 10:27.000 you look at it, 10:27.000 --> 10:31.000 there's different categories that you can put your 10:31.000 --> 10:32.000 music into, 10:32.000 --> 10:34.000 and of course there's all kinds of music genres, 10:34.000 --> 10:35.000 and there's a speech genre, 10:35.000 --> 10:37.000 and a talk genre I believe, 10:37.000 --> 10:38.000 and maybe there's, 10:38.000 --> 10:39.000 I don't even think there's an audiobook genre. 10:39.000 --> 10:42.000 This is according to ID3 tags, 10:42.000 --> 10:44.000 1.3 or 2.1, 10:44.000 --> 10:46.000 or I'm not quite sure. 10:46.000 --> 10:49.000 But I've been able to force a podcasting genre 10:49.000 --> 10:52.000 into the daily source code, 10:52.000 --> 10:54.000 so that it's encoding, 10:54.000 --> 10:57.000 and I guess everyone else can see that in their MP3 players, 10:57.000 --> 10:58.000 and their iPods, 10:58.000 --> 11:00.000 that it's coming across as a podcast. 11:00.000 --> 11:03.000 And I've been doing this after an audio comment that came in 11:03.000 --> 11:06.000 from Michael Gogan, 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 I've already been pronouncing his name. 11:08.000 --> 11:10.000 Thank God he doesn't for us. 11:10.000 --> 11:12.000 Hey Adam, it's Michael Gogan. 11:12.000 --> 11:13.000 There we go. 11:13.000 --> 11:14.000 Go Hagen. 11:14.000 --> 11:16.000 Okay, here's some feedback from Michael Gogan. 11:16.000 --> 11:19.000 As a follow-up to my suggestion yesterday that everybody 11:19.000 --> 11:22.000 begins setting genre as podcast, 11:22.000 --> 11:24.000 as they're sending out their podcast, 11:24.000 --> 11:28.000 it appears that there is absolutely no rules about 11:28.000 --> 11:32.000 what should or should not be listed as a genre. 11:32.000 --> 11:35.000 So I say let's make the platform ours, 11:35.000 --> 11:38.000 and start listening to everybody's genre as podcast. 11:38.000 --> 11:40.000 You know, the side benefit of that is 11:40.000 --> 11:43.000 that if you were to pass along one of these recordings to a friend, 11:43.000 --> 11:46.000 or somebody that's not even familiar with this entire format yet, 11:46.000 --> 11:48.000 just by pulling up the name and title in genre, 11:48.000 --> 11:51.000 they'd see what they've got and go out in the internet 11:51.000 --> 11:52.000 and find out all about it. 11:52.000 --> 11:55.000 You know, as we begin aggregating more and more of these things, 11:55.000 --> 11:57.000 for those of us that are interested in keeping it, 11:57.000 --> 11:59.000 you know, that metadata is going to become important. 11:59.000 --> 12:02.000 I know it really helps me to have a consistent setting 12:02.000 --> 12:05.000 in iTunes because I've just got thousands of songs, 12:05.000 --> 12:08.000 and this helps to segregate it from actual speech recordings 12:08.000 --> 12:10.000 or audiobooks and that sort of thing. 12:10.000 --> 12:13.000 So I was really pleased to see that you had implemented 12:13.000 --> 12:14.000 podcast yesterday. 12:14.000 --> 12:17.000 I know that Matthew Bischoff did so as well, 12:17.000 --> 12:20.000 and so it's kind of neat to see some hair-brained idea 12:20.000 --> 12:22.000 I had implemented just a day later. 12:22.000 --> 12:25.000 On the window side it appears that sometimes genre 12:25.000 --> 12:27.000 is referred to as content. 12:27.000 --> 12:30.000 It should be easy enough to change if you're a particular 12:31.000 --> 12:34.000 editor, a recorder doesn't allow you to do it on the window side. 12:34.000 --> 12:37.000 There are plenty of ID3 tag editors you can download 12:37.000 --> 12:39.000 or worst case scenario. 12:39.000 --> 12:41.000 Just pull down iTunes that's free anyways, 12:41.000 --> 12:44.000 and it makes it really easy to change. 12:44.000 --> 12:45.000 You know, just on a side note, 12:45.000 --> 12:47.000 right after my email yesterday, 12:47.000 --> 12:51.000 you played a little recording from Dave Slescher's 12:51.000 --> 12:52.000 Evil Genius Chronicles. 12:52.000 --> 12:55.000 It was actually a recording I had sent in to Dave 12:55.000 --> 12:58.000 a day or two prior, so you made my Wednesday. 12:58.000 --> 12:59.000 I felt like I hit a home run. 12:59.000 --> 13:03.000 I ended up both on Dave's show and on your show. 13:03.000 --> 13:06.000 So maybe I've invented the first subset of podcasting, 13:06.000 --> 13:09.000 which is just recording a two or three comment, 13:09.000 --> 13:11.000 two or three minute comment, submitting it, 13:11.000 --> 13:13.000 and seeing who plays it, 13:13.000 --> 13:14.000 almost like a correspondence. 13:14.000 --> 13:15.000 So anyways, keep up the good work, 13:15.000 --> 13:17.000 and I look forward to listening to your show. 13:17.000 --> 13:19.000 Alright, thank you very much, Michael. 13:19.000 --> 13:22.000 That was well worth listening to. 13:22.000 --> 13:23.000 When I do encourage that, 13:23.000 --> 13:25.000 please send in your audio comp. 13:25.000 --> 13:28.000 It's good, it's a nice way to communicate in these podcasts. 13:28.000 --> 13:30.000 Certainly for the Daily Source Code, 13:30.000 --> 13:32.000 coming to you today, as said, from Amsterdam, 13:32.000 --> 13:37.000 and the iPod or hype seems to be at just climbing to higher peaks 13:37.000 --> 13:38.000 every single day. 13:38.000 --> 13:40.000 I've been doing interviews more over the weekend, 13:40.000 --> 13:43.000 wired magazine, wired came out with a real nice article. 13:43.000 --> 13:46.000 Haven't seen the L.A. Times yet, but that's on the way. 13:46.000 --> 13:49.000 I've been doing interviews more over the weekend, 13:49.000 --> 13:52.000 wired magazine, wired came out with a real nice article. 13:52.000 --> 13:54.000 Haven't seen the L.A. Times yet, but that's on the way. 13:54.000 --> 13:57.000 Last night, the BBC interviewed me. 13:57.000 --> 13:59.000 I was so cool to, I'm still looking for a recording. 13:59.000 --> 14:03.000 They promised they would email me the piece when it was broadcast. 14:03.000 --> 14:06.000 Because the BBC has so much good content, 14:06.000 --> 14:07.000 so we got a little bit into that. 14:07.000 --> 14:09.000 I hope it was pre-recorded, so I hope they left it 14:09.000 --> 14:12.000 in the actual interview that aired. 14:12.000 --> 14:14.000 Also, I was on with Leo L.A. 14:14.000 --> 14:16.000 The beginning of the weekend, 14:16.000 --> 14:19.000 tech guy on KFI, Leo now has two podcasts going. 14:19.000 --> 14:22.000 So check them out at LeoVille.com. 14:22.000 --> 14:25.000 You can hear the part to the interview there, 14:25.000 --> 14:27.000 but he's also doing a news podcast, 14:27.000 --> 14:28.000 which is a little more regular. 14:28.000 --> 14:31.000 So be sure to check out LeoVille.com. 14:31.000 --> 14:35.000 I've been working on the directory at ipotter.org. 14:35.000 --> 14:38.000 The traffic that we're getting is just, 14:38.000 --> 14:40.000 it's unbelievable. I'm really happy we moved this to, 14:40.000 --> 14:43.000 a new server before all this started to just 14:43.000 --> 14:48.000 unleash itself upon this server running ipotter.org. 14:48.000 --> 14:52.000 The concept behind the directory, 14:52.000 --> 14:54.000 and I'm really starting to understand the beauty 14:54.000 --> 14:56.000 of decentralized directories right now. 14:56.000 --> 14:59.000 A directory is just like Yahoo has, 14:59.000 --> 15:03.000 where you can look at businesses by region, 15:03.000 --> 15:05.000 by town, type of business. 15:05.000 --> 15:07.000 In this case, looking at podcasts, 15:07.000 --> 15:09.000 it's exactly the same thing. 15:09.000 --> 15:11.000 Only, of course, this is going so fast. 15:11.000 --> 15:15.000 I already have so many entries in the directory tree 15:15.000 --> 15:18.000 that it's impossible for one person just to maintain. 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 Nor do I want to do that. 15:20.000 --> 15:23.000 Nor should there be any central person 15:23.000 --> 15:25.000 that has that type of power. 15:25.000 --> 15:27.000 That's a concern, 15:27.000 --> 15:30.000 because we want to make it as open as possible for everybody. 15:30.000 --> 15:33.000 So this concept of the open directory, 15:33.000 --> 15:36.000 really eliminates that. 15:36.000 --> 15:38.000 Here's how it works. 15:38.000 --> 15:41.000 Basically, you create the directory in an outliner. 15:41.000 --> 15:43.000 That makes sense, right? 15:43.000 --> 15:44.000 You've seen an outliner. 15:44.000 --> 15:47.000 You can expand a node, so you might have music 15:47.000 --> 15:48.000 underneath there. 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 It would be blues and rock, 15:50.000 --> 15:52.000 and then maybe world music. 15:52.000 --> 15:53.000 You expand that. 15:53.000 --> 15:55.000 There may be some more subcategories, 15:55.000 --> 15:56.000 like for blues. 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 It could be rhythm and blues and delta blues. 15:58.000 --> 16:00.000 And underneath that, you eventually find the links 16:00.000 --> 16:01.000 that you're looking for. 16:01.000 --> 16:03.000 Now, you translate that to the web, 16:03.000 --> 16:05.000 and you get a directory structure where you have 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 a breadcrum trail of basically directories that you 16:07.000 --> 16:09.000 jump into until you get where you want to be, 16:09.000 --> 16:11.000 and then you can trace your way back. 16:11.000 --> 16:14.000 So you create these in OPML, which stands for Outline 16:14.000 --> 16:16.000 Process or Markup Language. 16:16.000 --> 16:19.000 It's like HTML for Outliners. 16:19.000 --> 16:23.000 And I've linked on us as iPodder as well as 16:23.000 --> 16:24.000 Curry.com. 16:24.000 --> 16:28.000 I've linked to OPML or Outline program 16:28.000 --> 16:31.000 programs that export OPML. 16:31.000 --> 16:34.000 So I basically have created a number of top categories. 16:34.000 --> 16:36.000 It's just a start, right? 16:36.000 --> 16:38.000 Because we can have any number we want, 16:38.000 --> 16:40.000 and any way we want to categorize it. 16:40.000 --> 16:44.000 But the way this works is other people 16:44.000 --> 16:47.000 should own trees and branches or, you know, 16:47.000 --> 16:49.000 and nodes of this directory. 16:49.000 --> 16:52.000 So already I'm working with two people. 16:52.000 --> 16:55.000 One is already taken hold of the music directory. 16:55.000 --> 16:57.000 And that means that anything, 16:57.000 --> 17:00.000 when the minute you, in an iPodder or the minute 17:00.000 --> 17:02.000 you click on the music folder, 17:02.000 --> 17:05.000 it looks like it's still staying on iPodder.org, 17:05.000 --> 17:08.000 but it's actually bringing in the OPML 17:08.000 --> 17:12.000 from a public web server and it's giving you a seamless 17:12.000 --> 17:15.000 overview of and breadcrum trail 17:15.000 --> 17:17.000 through the directory structure. 17:17.000 --> 17:19.000 And in addition to that, 17:19.000 --> 17:21.000 if you want to suggest add a link, 17:21.000 --> 17:25.000 it goes to the owner of that branch 17:25.000 --> 17:27.000 and to that owner's email. 17:27.000 --> 17:29.000 So that's all automatic. 17:29.000 --> 17:30.000 It's really cool. 17:30.000 --> 17:33.000 It's far from done because I'd love to have 17:33.000 --> 17:37.000 or there's so many more, so many things I could go for a whole show 17:37.000 --> 17:39.000 that's what I'd like to have in the directory. 17:39.000 --> 17:41.000 But what's cool is already the music directory 17:41.000 --> 17:44.000 is now being maintained by someone else. 17:44.000 --> 17:47.000 And once I get another person ready, 17:47.000 --> 17:49.000 who's already got everything good to go, 17:49.000 --> 17:52.000 but his OPML is still a little funky. 17:52.000 --> 17:54.000 So we're working on that. 17:54.000 --> 17:56.000 Then there's going to be a sub division, 17:56.000 --> 17:58.000 specifically for mixes, 17:58.000 --> 18:00.000 that'll be made by someone else. 18:00.000 --> 18:02.000 So you can see how this directory can build 18:02.000 --> 18:04.000 very, very quickly. 18:04.000 --> 18:06.000 So I'm looking for people who want to help. 18:06.000 --> 18:09.000 If you can figure out how to create an OPML document, 18:09.000 --> 18:12.000 which in essence, you can create it just like RSS. 18:12.000 --> 18:14.000 You could probably write it by hand. 18:14.000 --> 18:15.000 You know, it's not that hard. 18:15.000 --> 18:16.000 But it's a little bit easier. 18:16.000 --> 18:19.000 And it's more visual if you do it in an outliner. 18:19.000 --> 18:21.000 Personally, I use radio user land. 18:21.000 --> 18:26.000 It supports all of the bits we need out of the box. 18:26.000 --> 18:29.000 It is fully OPML compliant. 18:29.000 --> 18:31.000 And well, there's a drawback, 18:31.000 --> 18:33.000 if you call it that it does cost money. 18:33.000 --> 18:34.000 You do have to pay for it. 18:34.000 --> 18:37.000 You can use it for up to 30 days to test it out. 18:37.000 --> 18:39.000 And then you have to pay 40 bucks and you get some hosting 18:39.000 --> 18:40.000 and a weblog and all that. 18:40.000 --> 18:43.000 But I think the outliner is at this point, 18:43.000 --> 18:46.000 the most important thing to talk about in radio user land. 18:46.000 --> 18:48.000 A lot of people who have started helping out using 18:48.000 --> 18:50.000 Omni Outliner, small drawback, 18:50.000 --> 18:54.000 the minute you export to OPML in Omni Outliner, 18:54.000 --> 18:58.000 it does not send the owner name element. 18:58.000 --> 19:01.000 Or it doesn't create the owner name element or the owner email element, 19:01.000 --> 19:04.000 both which you need in order to work with the directory. 19:04.000 --> 19:06.000 It also doesn't have a created element 19:06.000 --> 19:10.000 and a modified date stamp element. 19:10.000 --> 19:12.000 And some other things like node states, 19:12.000 --> 19:14.000 but that's less important. 19:14.000 --> 19:17.000 But hopefully we can get some of those 19:17.000 --> 19:19.000 incompatibility squared away. 19:19.000 --> 19:21.000 I'm getting a delay on headphones here. 19:21.000 --> 19:25.000 It sounds like I'm talking with a big rubber ball on my mouth. 19:25.000 --> 19:28.000 Which could have been true, but not today. 19:29.000 --> 19:30.000 Okay, let's see. 19:30.000 --> 19:31.000 What do we do? 19:31.000 --> 19:32.000 Oh man, 20 minutes into the show. 19:32.000 --> 19:33.000 Talk about the directory. 19:33.000 --> 19:35.000 Now I want to talk a little bit about the election. 19:35.000 --> 19:37.000 As I've been cruising through the internet, 19:37.000 --> 19:39.000 just finding all the cool bits, 19:39.000 --> 19:42.000 subscribing to new podcasts. 19:42.000 --> 19:44.000 I'm using iPod RX. 19:44.000 --> 19:47.000 It has an option to download the files, 19:47.000 --> 19:49.000 other than MP3s. 19:49.000 --> 19:51.000 And I've subscribed to the blog digger, 19:51.000 --> 19:54.000 media feed and feedsters, AVI feed. 19:54.000 --> 19:57.000 So I get all these cool little video mixes of stuff, 19:57.000 --> 20:00.000 which is usually all anti-bush, 20:00.000 --> 20:02.000 or very pro-carry. 20:02.000 --> 20:04.000 Certainly those are just the two categories. 20:04.000 --> 20:06.000 You could put everything into. 20:06.000 --> 20:08.000 And there's some, it looks like there's some movies 20:08.000 --> 20:11.000 or documentaries coming out and there's lots of trailers. 20:11.000 --> 20:14.000 And I did a little test and I listened to each of these 20:14.000 --> 20:15.000 without looking at the video, 20:15.000 --> 20:17.000 just listening on the headphones. 20:17.000 --> 20:19.000 And I thought they were good enough to put on the source code, 20:19.000 --> 20:20.000 because there's just some, 20:20.000 --> 20:22.000 well, there's interesting angles and interesting takes. 20:22.000 --> 20:26.000 And this is the time to display this art before the election. 20:26.000 --> 20:27.000 After the election, 20:27.000 --> 20:28.000 it won't make any, 20:28.000 --> 20:30.000 it really that much sense. 20:30.000 --> 20:32.000 So I think it's important that we, 20:32.000 --> 20:35.000 that we get the stuff out there, 20:35.000 --> 20:36.000 so you can hear it. 20:36.000 --> 20:39.000 I'm going to start with a bit, 20:39.000 --> 20:44.000 which is about Fox News Channel. 20:44.000 --> 20:45.000 Often, of course, 20:45.000 --> 20:47.000 if you're into conspiracy theories, 20:47.000 --> 20:48.000 you're going to love this. 20:48.000 --> 20:51.000 Fox News Channel is said to be, 20:52.000 --> 20:54.000 a supporter of Bush, 20:54.000 --> 20:57.000 totally hammering Kerry, 20:57.000 --> 21:00.000 but also just any Democrat versus Republican. 21:00.000 --> 21:03.000 And Roger Ailes is the guy, 21:03.000 --> 21:06.000 I think, still runs Fox News Channel. 21:06.000 --> 21:08.000 And the question that was asked in this, 21:08.000 --> 21:10.000 I believe trailer for documentaries, 21:10.000 --> 21:14.000 who is the guy that runs Fox News Channel? 21:14.000 --> 21:17.000 Who runs Fox News Channel? 21:22.000 --> 21:25.000 In 1967, Roger Ailes works as media manager 21:25.000 --> 21:29.000 for a public and presidential candidate, Richard Nixon. 21:29.000 --> 21:33.000 In 1984, Roger Ailes is hired as a media advisor 21:33.000 --> 21:35.000 for the Reagan campaign. 21:35.000 --> 21:39.000 In 1988, Roger Ailes works as the media manager 21:39.000 --> 21:43.000 for a public and candidate, George H. W. Bush. 21:43.000 --> 21:45.000 It is accused of master-minding 21:45.000 --> 21:47.000 a DuCoccus race-bading campaign 21:48.000 --> 21:51.000 using convicted murder of Willie Horton. 21:51.000 --> 21:54.000 After a career of running cutthroat conservative media campaigns, 21:54.000 --> 21:56.000 for three Republican presidents, 21:56.000 --> 21:59.000 Roger Ailes launches the Fox News Channel in 1996. 21:59.000 --> 22:02.000 We'd like to restore objectivity, 22:02.000 --> 22:04.000 where we find it lacking, 22:04.000 --> 22:07.000 and I left politics a number of years ago 22:07.000 --> 22:10.000 and run on whose organization for the last two years. 22:10.000 --> 22:12.000 So we just expect to do fine, 22:12.000 --> 22:13.000 balanced journalist. 22:13.000 --> 22:15.000 On election night of 2000, 22:15.000 --> 22:18.000 Roger Ailes Fox News Channel prematurely announced 22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 to the world that George W. Bush 22:20.000 --> 22:22.000 had won the state of Florida. 22:22.000 --> 22:25.000 President Bush's days of absorbing John Kerry's attacks 22:25.000 --> 22:27.000 were without counterattack or over. 22:27.000 --> 22:30.000 John Kerry has been lashing out at President Bush 22:30.000 --> 22:32.000 and by extension Republicans for a long time. 22:32.000 --> 22:33.000 But the president is a gentleman. 22:33.000 --> 22:36.000 You know, he set a different tone for his campaign. 22:36.000 --> 22:38.000 John Kerry was scaring old people as usual. 22:38.000 --> 22:41.000 The guy who says what he means of means what he says. 22:41.000 --> 22:43.000 North Korea loves John Kerry. 22:43.000 --> 22:44.000 Really? Yeah. 22:44.000 --> 22:46.000 It's John Kerry's Jane Farnder with the Burmary Stark. 22:46.000 --> 22:47.000 Dr. Rodgersman. 22:47.000 --> 22:48.000 He wanted to do this Kerry plan. 22:48.000 --> 22:50.000 We'll do his punished, successful companies. 22:50.000 --> 22:52.000 Elias worked well for Democrats in the past. 22:52.000 --> 22:54.000 I think the market is down on John Kerry. 22:54.000 --> 22:56.000 The economy is very, very strong right now. 22:56.000 --> 22:58.000 I think it's going to get stronger. 22:58.000 --> 22:59.000 It's picking up. 22:59.000 --> 23:00.000 Day by day. 23:00.000 --> 23:01.000 Killing more jobs. 23:01.000 --> 23:03.000 I'm going to suggest to the budgetary for John Kerry. 23:03.000 --> 23:09.000 In 2004, Roger Ailes is running yet another Republican media campaign. 23:09.000 --> 23:12.000 This time, he's got an entire table 23:12.000 --> 23:17.000 that worked to help him re-elect George W. Bush. 23:17.000 --> 23:19.000 Move on.org. 23:19.000 --> 23:22.000 That's who put that out there. 23:22.000 --> 23:25.000 Definitely an interesting site worth checking out. 23:25.000 --> 23:28.000 Although I had to say, I'm on the mailing list and I rarely ever read it. 23:28.000 --> 23:30.000 But I like what they produce. 23:30.000 --> 23:32.000 I think they produce really wonderful stuff. 23:32.000 --> 23:33.000 Very powerful stuff. 23:33.000 --> 23:34.000 Good video. 23:34.000 --> 23:35.000 Okay. 23:35.000 --> 23:38.000 Now onto something about the... 23:38.000 --> 23:41.000 What was an SMS coming in? 23:42.000 --> 23:44.000 About the Patriot Act. 23:44.000 --> 23:47.000 Another trailer for unconstitutional... 23:47.000 --> 23:50.000 The film was called Unconstitutional. 23:50.000 --> 23:54.000 And you can find more information at unconstitutionalthemovie.org. 23:54.000 --> 23:57.000 Let me just see if I have the right one here. 23:57.000 --> 23:58.000 Pretty sure I do. 23:58.000 --> 24:00.000 Now, this is coming off another media play. 24:00.000 --> 24:03.000 This is coming off of the VLC client. 24:03.000 --> 24:05.000 So hopefully it'll play and you'll be able to hear it. 24:05.000 --> 24:08.000 Here's the trailer for Unconstitutional. 24:09.000 --> 24:14.000 This legislation is essential not only to pursuing and punishing tourists. 24:14.000 --> 24:17.000 But also preventing more atrocities. 24:17.000 --> 24:21.000 For about 20 second, I've got a phone call about 7 o'clock in the morning. 24:21.000 --> 24:25.000 For my uncle saying that by 12 to 15 federal agents 24:25.000 --> 24:28.000 just came into my pants house, picked up my mom, my dad, and my sister. 24:28.000 --> 24:31.000 I go sat down next to me and I said, 24:31.000 --> 24:33.000 George Bush is out of control. 24:33.000 --> 24:35.000 I would gasp probably 30 minutes later. 24:35.000 --> 24:39.000 Over my shoulder and there were four Santa Fe police officers standing behind me. 24:39.000 --> 24:44.000 We have to ask ourselves, is this the most effective use of law enforcement? 24:44.000 --> 24:45.000 Power. 24:53.000 --> 24:54.000 Nearly 1,000 individuals. 24:54.000 --> 24:57.000 He swept broadly, he swept blindly. 24:57.000 --> 24:59.000 Until the number was over 1,000, 24:59.000 --> 25:01.000 and people started asking questions. 25:01.000 --> 25:05.000 They said, how many of these 1,000 people have been charged with 25:05.000 --> 25:08.000 the crimes of September 11th and the answer was zero. 25:08.000 --> 25:11.000 I know my dad was so hard to come to the country for freedom. 25:11.000 --> 25:15.000 And then you know, 10 years later, we find out that the country that we came here to save us 25:15.000 --> 25:17.000 is actually doing the Santas. 25:17.000 --> 25:23.000 You had the Justice Department itself criticizing the actions and the policies. 25:23.000 --> 25:25.000 These are critical issues. 25:25.000 --> 25:27.000 This is what we're fighting for. 25:27.000 --> 25:30.000 These are our civil liberties. 25:30.000 --> 25:34.000 Well, I mean, I'm the was we'd say. 25:34.000 --> 25:38.000 And have that drink open, I know. 25:38.000 --> 25:44.000 I'm talking sex, I'm living real for. 25:44.000 --> 25:46.000 I'm moving. 25:46.000 --> 25:47.000 Okay, this is here. 25:47.000 --> 25:51.000 It's sponsored by ACLU, unconstitutional, unconstitutional, 25:51.000 --> 25:53.000 the movie.org. 25:53.000 --> 25:57.000 You can probably tell by now that this, if you're a Republican, 25:57.000 --> 26:00.000 this may not be a good podcast to listen to today. 26:00.000 --> 26:02.000 And there's more where that came from. 26:02.000 --> 26:05.000 I got an interesting audio feedback from Alan Pine, 26:05.000 --> 26:09.000 Alan's from Paris, and he has a very cool podcast. 26:09.000 --> 26:13.000 Well, I'll let him explain exactly what it is and where you can find it. 26:13.000 --> 26:17.000 Hey Adam, this is Alan Pine calling from Paris and France. 26:17.000 --> 26:21.000 I just wanted to let you know about a great site called truthout.org. 26:21.000 --> 26:26.000 And in particular, there are nightly truthout overview, MP3 bulletin, 26:26.000 --> 26:28.000 which is presented by William Rivers Pit. 26:28.000 --> 26:31.000 It's basically a five to six minute news, 26:31.000 --> 26:36.000 style bulletin of credible journalistic coverage of the US 26:36.000 --> 26:42.000 and US foreign policy, the political situation, et cetera, et cetera. 26:42.000 --> 26:46.000 The only downside is that at the moment, 26:46.000 --> 26:50.000 they don't have any RSS feed, nor any enclosures. 26:50.000 --> 26:54.000 So what I've done in the meantime is to handle the feed, 26:54.000 --> 26:56.000 and pointing to their archives. 26:56.000 --> 26:59.000 And it's available on my blog, which is at 26:59.000 --> 27:04.000 Perso.1ado.fr-72% water. 27:04.000 --> 27:10.000 That's P-R-S-O-Person.1ado.fr-72% water. 27:10.000 --> 27:12.000 Hope this is useful for you. 27:12.000 --> 27:16.000 Keep up the great work, your seven-dave, and 27:16.000 --> 27:18.000 Viva La Revolucione. 27:18.000 --> 27:19.000 Take care, bye. 27:19.000 --> 27:21.000 Right home, Viva La Revolucione! 27:21.000 --> 27:24.000 I love it, thank you very much, Alan, 27:24.000 --> 27:27.000 and I have subscribed to the show, 27:27.000 --> 27:31.000 and I got to say it is very good. 27:31.000 --> 27:34.000 I wonder if this actually airs anywhere. 27:34.000 --> 27:36.000 It sounds very much like a podcast. 27:36.000 --> 27:39.000 It's very well written and well read, 27:39.000 --> 27:40.000 but it doesn't sound like it's, 27:40.000 --> 27:43.000 it doesn't have quite that professional radio quality. 27:43.000 --> 27:45.000 So please let us know exactly what, 27:45.000 --> 27:47.000 where this is being broadcast or, 27:48.000 --> 27:50.000 is it always at web only? 27:50.000 --> 27:53.000 And since you already publicly announced it 27:53.000 --> 27:56.000 in the feedback, I will place a link 27:56.000 --> 28:00.000 to the podcast feed for truth out. 28:00.000 --> 28:03.000 It's definitely some good stuff. 28:03.000 --> 28:06.000 Okay, another trailer, this is a funny trailer, 28:06.000 --> 28:09.000 about the weird speech that our current president 28:09.000 --> 28:10.000 often produces. 28:10.000 --> 28:12.000 Also included in this at the end, 28:12.000 --> 28:15.000 is an entire song by the George W. Burst Singers. 28:15.000 --> 28:17.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I present for you 28:17.000 --> 28:20.000 on the source code, Bushisms. 28:20.000 --> 28:25.000 Africa is a nation of suffers from incredible disease. 28:25.000 --> 28:28.000 Yeah, I think it might have been better to say 28:28.000 --> 28:30.000 that there are a lot of people in Africa 28:30.000 --> 28:32.000 who suffer from terrible diseases, 28:32.000 --> 28:34.000 as opposed to making it sound like 28:34.000 --> 28:35.000 the whole continent. 28:35.000 --> 28:37.000 She's got to be cut off and sunk. 28:38.000 --> 28:43.000 I think war is a dangerous place. 28:43.000 --> 28:46.000 War, what is it good for? 28:46.000 --> 28:51.000 A three day weekend. 28:51.000 --> 28:56.000 It'll take time to restore chaos. 28:56.000 --> 28:59.000 I think that they brought chaos to Iraq promptly, 28:59.000 --> 29:01.000 and he thought it would be a challenge in fact 29:01.000 --> 29:03.000 that proved to be very simple. 29:03.000 --> 29:08.000 I kept you imagine something like 29:08.000 --> 29:10.000 someone been more than ever saying 29:10.000 --> 29:11.000 the George W. Burst Singers. 29:11.000 --> 29:12.000 We're knowing the simple pleasure 29:12.000 --> 29:16.000 finding an egg on Easter Sunday. 29:16.000 --> 29:18.000 Oh, someone been law night filled the same way. 29:18.000 --> 29:20.000 He misses out on Hanukkah, 29:20.000 --> 29:23.000 Yom Kippur, 29:23.000 --> 29:26.000 Russia-China, 29:26.000 --> 29:28.000 and the United States. 29:28.000 --> 29:31.000 He misses out on Hanukkah, 29:31.000 --> 29:33.000 the John Kippur, 29:33.000 --> 29:35.000 Russia-China. 29:35.000 --> 29:36.000 He just doesn't appreciate the joy 29:36.000 --> 29:38.000 of the George Holidays. 29:38.000 --> 29:40.000 I can't imagine Osama in 29:40.000 --> 29:41.000 Joing Spring Break. 29:41.000 --> 29:45.000 It can come. 29:45.000 --> 29:47.000 It's almost like this Osama 29:47.000 --> 29:49.000 bin Laden, Pella, 29:49.000 --> 29:51.000 is from somewhere else, 29:51.000 --> 29:53.000 from some other culture. 29:53.000 --> 29:54.000 It's weird. 29:54.000 --> 29:56.000 And interact. 29:56.000 --> 29:58.000 We entered the rule of one of 29:58.000 --> 30:01.000 the worst tyrants. 30:01.000 --> 30:02.000 And in so doing, 30:02.000 --> 30:04.000 we'd not only freed the American people, 30:04.000 --> 30:09.000 we made our own people more secure. 30:09.000 --> 30:13.000 And there's no doubt in my mind. 30:13.000 --> 30:16.000 Not one doubt in my mind 30:16.000 --> 30:18.000 that we will fail. 30:18.000 --> 30:20.000 No! 30:20.000 --> 30:23.000 Most people are very unsure about 30:23.000 --> 30:24.000 failure. 30:24.000 --> 30:26.000 Is that who we want as president? 30:26.000 --> 30:27.000 No, we don't. 30:27.000 --> 30:29.000 We want someone absolutely positive 30:29.000 --> 30:32.000 that we're going to fail. 30:32.000 --> 30:36.000 That's leadership. 30:36.000 --> 30:38.000 Ladies and gentlemen, 30:38.000 --> 30:39.000 once again, 30:39.000 --> 30:42.000 the George W. Bush Singers. 30:43.000 --> 30:45.000 Woohoo! 30:49.000 --> 30:50.000 And so, 30:50.000 --> 30:51.000 And so, 30:51.000 --> 30:53.000 am I straight of them? 30:55.000 --> 30:57.000 My state of the Union. 30:57.000 --> 31:03.000 My State of the Union 31:03.000 --> 31:05.000 Our State of my State, 31:05.000 --> 31:06.000 Master their name. 31:06.000 --> 31:08.000 My State to Knock. 31:08.000 --> 31:09.000 Nice. 31:09.000 --> 31:11.000 We want to go in. 31:11.000 --> 31:13.000 You want to call it. 31:13.000 --> 31:16.000 You want to call it. 31:16.000 --> 31:17.000 Speech. 31:17.000 --> 31:18.000 Speech. 31:18.000 --> 31:19.000 Speech. 31:19.000 --> 31:20.000 Speech, pleasure. 31:20.000 --> 31:21.000 To the. 31:21.000 --> 31:22.000 The. 31:22.000 --> 31:24.000 Action. 31:33.000 --> 31:35.000 I asked the Americans. 31:35.000 --> 31:37.000 I asked to give. 31:37.000 --> 31:41.000 I'm married to give. 31:41.000 --> 31:43.000 For a thousand years. 31:43.000 --> 31:45.000 For a thousand years. 31:45.000 --> 31:49.000 For a thousand years. 31:49.000 --> 31:50.000 For a thousand hours. 31:50.000 --> 31:52.000 For. 31:52.000 --> 31:53.000 Thousand. 31:53.000 --> 31:55.000 I was. 31:55.000 --> 31:57.000 Over the next. 31:57.000 --> 31:59.000 Over the next. 31:59.000 --> 32:01.000 The rest you're. 32:01.000 --> 32:03.000 Of your life. 32:03.000 --> 32:06.000 Of service to a mercy. 32:06.000 --> 32:07.000 Of. 32:07.000 --> 32:09.000 There we go. 32:09.000 --> 32:10.000 Tonight. 32:10.000 --> 32:11.000 That's. 32:11.000 --> 32:12.000 That's. 32:12.000 --> 32:13.000 That's. 32:13.000 --> 32:14.000 That's. 32:14.000 --> 32:15.000 Two. 32:15.000 --> 32:16.000 Two. 32:16.000 --> 32:17.000 Four thousand hours. 32:17.000 --> 32:19.000 Four thousand hours. 32:19.000 --> 32:22.000 Oh man. 32:22.000 --> 32:23.000 The bush. 32:23.000 --> 32:24.000 The. 32:24.000 --> 32:26.000 Bushism dot net is where you can find more on that. 32:26.000 --> 32:27.000 It's just silly. 32:27.000 --> 32:28.000 But you. 32:28.000 --> 32:30.000 You should really see the video of the George W. Bush. 32:30.000 --> 32:32.000 Singers is just so hokey. 32:32.000 --> 32:33.000 It's. 32:33.000 --> 32:34.000 It's awesome. 32:34.000 --> 32:35.000 Oh, by the way. 32:35.000 --> 32:40.000 And when I was listening to another podcast and actually played it on the source code the other day. 32:40.000 --> 32:43.000 I could hear from the other podcast. 32:43.000 --> 32:46.000 I could hear the volume control on the Mac here. 32:46.000 --> 32:49.000 If I turn my volume up on my headphones. 32:49.000 --> 32:50.000 Let me see. 32:50.000 --> 32:51.000 I don't know. 32:51.000 --> 32:53.000 Of course, it's not going to do that for me. 32:53.000 --> 32:55.000 You just give a little blip. 32:55.000 --> 32:57.000 If you're using a Mac or power book. 32:57.000 --> 32:59.000 Then you can hold down the shift key. 32:59.000 --> 33:01.000 And then turn up the volume. 33:01.000 --> 33:03.000 I would probably on a desktop Mac as well. 33:03.000 --> 33:04.000 You. 33:04.000 --> 33:05.000 That blipping noise. 33:05.000 --> 33:06.000 That aside. 33:06.000 --> 33:10.000 I had one more video to play for you about the draft. 33:10.000 --> 33:12.000 But yeah, I like the George W. Bush singer so much. 33:12.000 --> 33:15.000 I'm going to skip it because I'm just depressed. 33:15.000 --> 33:16.000 Look. 33:16.000 --> 33:21.000 I think you should vote for John Kerry. 33:21.000 --> 33:23.000 George Bush is in the. 33:23.000 --> 33:27.000 Kuhuts with a whole bunch of guys who got a whole lot of agendas. 33:27.000 --> 33:29.000 The only way we can make sure that. 33:30.000 --> 33:33.000 There's a clean slate that we've got something to work with. 33:33.000 --> 33:39.000 If we get them out, get a new guy in and keep sharp, sharp look out for what's happening. 33:39.000 --> 33:41.000 And let's not this happen to us again. 33:41.000 --> 33:42.000 We've got all the tools. 33:42.000 --> 33:43.000 We've got our voices. 33:43.000 --> 33:45.000 We've got our web logs. 33:45.000 --> 33:48.000 The time from weblog to CNN is Dave would say is getting shorter. 33:48.000 --> 33:50.000 It's dropped down to hours. 33:50.000 --> 33:51.000 So we do have the power. 33:51.000 --> 33:53.000 And I believe that. 33:53.000 --> 33:58.000 That we should elect John Kerry as our next president. 33:58.000 --> 33:59.000 Okay. 33:59.000 --> 34:01.000 So no, let's not talk about that anymore. 34:01.000 --> 34:03.000 Let's talk about some cool stuff. 34:03.000 --> 34:06.000 I was talking to Dave on trade secrets the other day. 34:06.000 --> 34:07.000 I think it was on trade secrets. 34:07.000 --> 34:08.000 Maybe it was just. 34:08.000 --> 34:09.000 It all runs together. 34:09.000 --> 34:10.000 I don't know who I told what anymore. 34:10.000 --> 34:12.000 We were talking about William Shattner. 34:12.000 --> 34:14.000 And I said, you know, William Shattner actually is. 34:14.000 --> 34:15.000 You know, he's got his stuff together. 34:15.000 --> 34:17.000 He's got a he's got a web log. 34:17.000 --> 34:19.000 There's daughter maintains. 34:19.000 --> 34:21.000 Oh, we were talking about. 34:21.000 --> 34:23.000 The Peter sellers. 34:23.000 --> 34:26.000 I played Peter sellers did a Beatles song. 34:26.000 --> 34:27.000 She loves you. 34:27.000 --> 34:29.000 And he said, didn't Bill Shattner do that. 34:29.000 --> 34:31.000 So he did loosing the sky with diamonds. 34:31.000 --> 34:34.000 So we were talking about the musical career of Bill Shattner. 34:34.000 --> 34:35.000 I had no idea why. 34:35.000 --> 34:38.000 And it turns out loan below loan behold. 34:38.000 --> 34:40.000 He is just released a new album. 34:40.000 --> 34:44.000 It's titled William Shattner has been. 34:44.000 --> 34:48.000 And it's got photos, news, videos, press appearances. 34:48.000 --> 34:50.000 Got all kinds of stuff. 34:50.000 --> 34:52.000 It's a DVD to go with it. 34:52.000 --> 34:54.000 But the album, check this out. 34:54.000 --> 34:58.000 It includes guest appearances by Joe Jackson, lemon jelly, 34:58.000 --> 35:03.000 Amy Mann, Henry Rollins, and Brad Paisley. 35:03.000 --> 35:07.000 And he's got a couple samples on his website promoting this. 35:07.000 --> 35:09.000 Shattner has been.com. 35:09.000 --> 35:13.000 And I would love to play a little bit of it for you. 35:13.000 --> 35:16.000 Okay, I'm going to play. 35:16.000 --> 35:18.000 You have time. 35:18.000 --> 35:21.000 And I'm playing this from the flash interface and the browser. 35:21.000 --> 35:22.000 So who knows what can happen. 35:22.000 --> 35:24.000 I'll be a bit of an experiment. 35:24.000 --> 35:25.000 Here it comes. 35:25.000 --> 35:26.000 Now. 35:26.000 --> 35:28.000 Maybe you won't suffer. 35:28.000 --> 35:30.000 Maybe it's quick. 35:30.000 --> 35:32.000 But you'll have time to think. 35:32.000 --> 35:34.000 Why did I waste it? 35:34.000 --> 35:36.000 Why didn't I taste it? 35:36.000 --> 35:39.000 You'll have time. 35:39.000 --> 35:42.000 Because you're... 35:42.000 --> 35:44.000 Gonna die. 35:48.000 --> 35:51.000 Yes, it's gonna happen because it's happened to a lot of people I know. 35:51.000 --> 35:55.000 My mother, my father, my loves. 35:55.000 --> 35:59.000 The president, the kings of the pope. 35:59.000 --> 36:01.000 They all had a hole. 36:01.000 --> 36:04.000 And they muttered just before they went. 36:04.000 --> 36:07.000 Maybe I won't go. 36:07.000 --> 36:11.000 Live life like you're gonna die. 36:11.000 --> 36:14.000 Because you are. 36:14.000 --> 36:16.000 Maybe you won't suffer. 36:16.000 --> 36:18.000 Maybe it's quick. 36:18.000 --> 36:20.000 But you'll have time to think. 36:21.000 --> 36:23.000 Why did I waste it? 36:23.000 --> 36:25.000 Why didn't I taste it? 36:25.000 --> 36:27.000 You'll have time. 36:27.000 --> 36:29.000 Because you're... 36:29.000 --> 36:31.000 Gonna die. 36:31.000 --> 36:34.000 I'm gonna die. 36:34.000 --> 36:36.000 I tell you else left us. 36:36.000 --> 36:39.000 Best I've gone to heaven along the rules. 36:39.000 --> 36:40.000 Johnny Cash! 36:40.000 --> 36:41.000 Yeah! 36:41.000 --> 36:44.000 JFK, that guy in the stones. 36:44.000 --> 36:45.000 Yeah! 36:45.000 --> 36:47.000 Luke Garic, Einstein, and... 36:47.000 --> 36:49.000 Joey Ramon. 36:50.000 --> 36:53.000 Johnny Ramon. 36:53.000 --> 36:56.000 Have I convinced you that you're replying lips? 36:56.000 --> 36:59.000 This may come as news, but it's time. 36:59.000 --> 37:00.000 Okay. 37:00.000 --> 37:02.000 So unfortunately, that's all there is. 37:02.000 --> 37:03.000 It's all in China. 37:03.000 --> 37:04.000 Let me... 37:04.000 --> 37:05.000 Well... 37:05.000 --> 37:06.000 Stop that. 37:06.000 --> 37:07.000 It goes into the interview. 37:07.000 --> 37:09.000 Wise words for a man in his 70s, 37:09.000 --> 37:12.000 who's been around and seems to be enjoying life every single day. 37:12.000 --> 37:13.000 You'll have time. 37:13.000 --> 37:15.000 Bill Shattner from his album has been... 37:15.000 --> 37:18.000 Can't wait to get my hands on a copy to play the fool song for. 37:18.000 --> 37:19.000 Yeah. 37:19.000 --> 37:24.000 Just a word or two about some new podcast feeds that are really exciting. 37:24.000 --> 37:28.000 I told you before that I've been working with Tony Khan of... 37:28.000 --> 37:31.000 WGBH embossed in public radio. 37:31.000 --> 37:35.000 And he is the writer and producer of a show called Morning Stories. 37:35.000 --> 37:37.000 And there's short stories. 37:37.000 --> 37:41.000 They're read by a normal people who he coaches through the whole process. 37:41.000 --> 37:44.000 He produces these wonderful, you know, two to three minute stories. 37:44.000 --> 37:48.000 I've played some of them here on the source code. 37:48.000 --> 37:50.000 And he finally... 37:50.000 --> 37:52.000 He got it done. 37:52.000 --> 37:56.000 Somehow he got MPR to, you know, to figure out all the rights issues. 37:56.000 --> 37:58.000 And they've put up a feed, a podcast feed. 37:58.000 --> 38:01.000 You can find it in the directory under public radio. 38:01.000 --> 38:06.000 And I think this is just the start of many more MPR shows to come to... 38:06.000 --> 38:08.000 to a podcast thing. 38:08.000 --> 38:09.000 And we welcome them all, of course. 38:09.000 --> 38:11.000 And I'm very excited about it. 38:11.000 --> 38:17.000 Also, KOMO news from Seattle, KOMO 1000, I think it is. 38:17.000 --> 38:19.000 They have also put up a podcast feed. 38:19.000 --> 38:21.000 I've got this delay again. 38:21.000 --> 38:23.000 It sounds like it got the rubber ball back. 38:23.000 --> 38:25.000 One of those red, what rubber balls, you know, 38:25.000 --> 38:29.000 the one with the leather strap that goes around at the back of your head like the GIMP. 38:29.000 --> 38:30.000 Okay. 38:30.000 --> 38:35.000 So KOMO 1000 news is doing it exactly the way I think it should be done. 38:35.000 --> 38:38.000 They produce these, you know, little news bulletins. 38:38.000 --> 38:42.000 These 40 to 40 is a 60 second news stories. 38:42.000 --> 38:45.000 Which is fun, you know, because now for the first time I play this, 38:45.000 --> 38:47.000 I can actually see how long these stories are. 38:47.000 --> 38:49.000 And I'll get like three or four one after another. 38:49.000 --> 38:51.000 And they sit there in the playlist. 38:51.000 --> 38:56.000 And the reason that it's so cool that each individual podcast is a news story. 38:56.000 --> 38:59.000 If you don't like the topic of the story, just hit the next button, boom, 38:59.000 --> 39:00.000 you're on into the next story. 39:00.000 --> 39:04.000 So it's fantastic and so happy that they're supporting podcasting this way. 39:04.000 --> 39:07.000 Again, also one I think of many still to come. 39:07.000 --> 39:09.000 And of course in the past couple of days, 39:09.000 --> 39:13.000 there's once again been many different opinions about just what podcasting is 39:13.000 --> 39:15.000 and what it's worth. 39:15.000 --> 39:18.000 And well, I want to share some of that with you. 39:18.000 --> 39:22.000 I wish to do some podcasting. 39:22.000 --> 39:26.000 No, you cannot afford to. 39:26.000 --> 39:28.000 Why not? 39:28.000 --> 39:31.000 Oh, you have me in. 39:31.000 --> 39:33.000 When does 95? 39:33.000 --> 39:38.000 No, I'm podcasting. 39:38.000 --> 39:40.000 What? 39:40.000 --> 39:46.000 The term itself is bullshit. 39:46.000 --> 39:51.000 Oh, fantastic. 39:51.000 --> 39:57.000 And it's funny how you can see the game of telephone working with these podcasts. 39:57.000 --> 40:01.000 I heard a podcast from who was at Northwest noise. 40:01.000 --> 40:02.000 I think it was. 40:02.000 --> 40:05.000 And he was referring to my podcast from the car where I said, 40:05.000 --> 40:08.000 you know, I really love my A8, my Audi OA8. 40:08.000 --> 40:10.000 It's got everything I need, all the technical bits, 40:10.000 --> 40:13.000 but it's kind of boring and unsexy. 40:13.000 --> 40:16.000 And he was talking about me saying that, you know, 40:16.000 --> 40:17.000 I wasn't too hot on the car. 40:17.000 --> 40:20.000 I was like, no, no, no, no, don't get me wrong. 40:20.000 --> 40:25.000 So the history of podcasting also is, 40:25.000 --> 40:28.000 you know, it gets its twist here and there. 40:28.000 --> 40:31.000 And of course, you can leave it up to Raster Web Audio, 40:31.000 --> 40:34.000 our buddy Pete to bring you the complete 40:34.000 --> 40:38.000 and correct history of podcasting. 40:42.000 --> 40:45.000 Welcome to Raster Web Audio, 40:45.000 --> 40:48.000 441008. 40:48.000 --> 40:53.000 Raster Web Audio is proud to bring you this audio biography, 40:53.000 --> 40:56.000 the history of podcasting. 40:56.000 --> 40:59.000 Adam Curry was born in New York, New Jersey, 40:59.000 --> 41:01.000 the younger brother of Jim Carey. 41:01.000 --> 41:04.000 Adam always had an interest in the law and lawyoring, 41:04.000 --> 41:07.000 but soon found himself involved with pirates 41:07.000 --> 41:12.000 who would steal transistoradios from Dr. Cyril's medical office, 41:12.000 --> 41:13.000 and sell them on e-bates, 41:13.000 --> 41:15.000 the lives of David Winner, 41:15.000 --> 41:19.000 a man obsessed with digging and digging and still digging. 41:19.000 --> 41:22.000 Soon Adam met up with another Dave, 41:22.000 --> 41:25.000 Dave Slushie, the founder of 711, 41:25.000 --> 41:27.000 and together they came up with a way to make 41:27.000 --> 41:29.000 a video images of Tim Conway, 41:29.000 --> 41:32.000 appear on your giant flat screen TV, 41:32.000 --> 41:35.000 even if you lived in Conroy, South Dakota, 41:35.000 --> 41:38.000 or anywhere a hurricane was likely to hit. 41:38.000 --> 41:41.000 Later, Adam and Dave teamed up with the Gilmour Girls 41:41.000 --> 41:43.000 and tried something called poo casting, 41:43.000 --> 41:47.000 but found that the audience for people who wanted poo 41:47.000 --> 41:50.000 auto-magically delivered to their front porch morning 41:50.000 --> 41:52.000 with extremely small, 41:52.000 --> 41:54.000 even among people who listened to NPR, 41:54.000 --> 41:56.000 or were on NPR, 41:56.000 --> 41:58.000 or used to have a radio show, 41:58.000 --> 42:00.000 or even if they lived in Conroy, South Dakota. 42:00.000 --> 42:02.000 Eventually pod casting was invented, 42:02.000 --> 42:04.000 and we had a way to deliver iPods 42:04.000 --> 42:06.000 to every boy and girl in the New Zealand. 42:06.000 --> 42:09.000 But the only problem was that all of the files 42:09.000 --> 42:11.000 on the iPods were stolen from Steve Gapes, 42:11.000 --> 42:13.000 the creator of Microsoftware, 42:13.000 --> 42:15.000 and this made him mad, 42:15.000 --> 42:19.000 so a guy named Stephen Jobs kicked his ass quite hard, 42:19.000 --> 42:22.000 and the flow of free iPods continued. 42:22.000 --> 42:24.000 And that's how pod casting came to be, 42:24.000 --> 42:27.000 and the fact that you're listening to this right now, 42:27.000 --> 42:29.000 is proof that it works. 42:29.000 --> 42:31.000 This has been audio biography. 42:31.000 --> 42:33.000 Thank you, and good night. 42:33.000 --> 42:37.000 Just had great visions of poo casting 42:37.000 --> 42:39.000 with the Gilmour Girls. 42:39.000 --> 42:40.000 Excellent. 42:40.000 --> 42:42.000 Another podcast that popped up 42:42.000 --> 42:45.000 is a professional radio feed from CBC, 42:45.000 --> 42:48.000 Canada, Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, 42:48.000 --> 42:51.000 which operates very much like a pod cast. 42:51.000 --> 42:53.000 People can contribute to CBC, 42:53.000 --> 42:55.000 the listeners do actively contribute, 42:55.000 --> 42:58.000 and a story showed up on CBC, 42:58.000 --> 43:00.000 and of course it was copied over to their pod cast, 43:00.000 --> 43:01.000 all about pod casting. 43:01.000 --> 43:03.000 This is much less humorous, 43:03.000 --> 43:05.000 but very well put together, 43:05.000 --> 43:09.000 and I think just an excellent overview of pod casting. 43:11.000 --> 43:13.000 In a coffee shop in Charlotte Town, 43:13.000 --> 43:15.000 Stephen Garrity is sitting down with a friend, 43:15.000 --> 43:17.000 a cup of lemonade tea, 43:17.000 --> 43:19.000 and a laptop computer, 43:19.000 --> 43:21.000 a few key strokes later, 43:21.000 --> 43:23.000 and he's on the air. 43:23.000 --> 43:25.000 Live from the poor most of the time. 43:25.000 --> 43:27.000 Live from the poor most of the time. 43:27.000 --> 43:30.000 Live from the poor most of the time. 43:30.000 --> 43:32.000 We're back to the poor most of the time. 43:32.000 --> 43:35.000 This is Stephen Garrity here I'm here with. 43:35.000 --> 43:37.000 This is the new face of radio, 43:37.000 --> 43:40.000 at least if people like Garrity have their way. 43:40.000 --> 43:42.000 It's called pod casting. 43:42.000 --> 43:43.000 It works like this. 43:43.000 --> 43:46.000 Ordinary people record their own show of sorts 43:46.000 --> 43:47.000 into their computer, 43:47.000 --> 43:49.000 then they post that show online 43:49.000 --> 43:52.000 for others to download and listen to. 43:52.000 --> 43:55.000 But don't expect high production values yet. 43:55.000 --> 43:57.000 This is a trend just emerging. 43:57.000 --> 44:00.000 Garrity show is interrupted by commercials. 44:00.000 --> 44:03.000 It's interrupted by the waiter. 44:03.000 --> 44:04.000 Interesting, in five or five. 44:04.000 --> 44:06.000 Thank you. 44:06.000 --> 44:10.000 Indeed, most pod cast shows so far sound, 44:10.000 --> 44:12.000 a little bit campy. 44:12.000 --> 44:14.000 Hi, welcome to the Don and Drew Show. 44:14.000 --> 44:15.000 I'm Don and Sally. 44:16.000 --> 44:17.000 Take this example. 44:17.000 --> 44:19.000 Broadcast from Wayne was constant. 44:19.000 --> 44:21.000 And it's cold. 44:21.000 --> 44:22.000 It's very cold. 44:22.000 --> 44:24.000 We started fire today. 44:24.000 --> 44:25.000 Yeah. 44:25.000 --> 44:28.000 Well, like on the wood in the wood burner. 44:28.000 --> 44:29.000 In the wood burner. 44:29.000 --> 44:31.000 So Drew starts opening up with what you're wearing. 44:31.000 --> 44:35.000 Okay, I'm wearing some hammy downhill figurines. 44:35.000 --> 44:37.000 But others sound downright professional. 44:37.000 --> 44:39.000 From the Silicon Valley, 44:39.000 --> 44:42.000 Dan Finsett and the rest of California. 44:43.000 --> 44:44.000 I'm Eric Grace. 44:44.000 --> 44:47.000 And this is my show. 44:47.000 --> 44:50.000 This guy created a show by literally wandering around 44:50.000 --> 44:52.000 a technology conference with his laptop 44:52.000 --> 44:54.000 and doing impromptu interviews with industry 44:54.000 --> 44:55.000 potted tea bumped into. 44:55.000 --> 44:58.000 I'm sending her with Sam Tesla who started. 44:58.000 --> 44:59.000 And this is very deja vu, 44:59.000 --> 45:01.000 especially for those of you familiar with the Apple 45:01.000 --> 45:02.000 Store user group. 45:02.000 --> 45:04.000 You started a user group. 45:04.000 --> 45:07.000 Podcasting is evolving out of the blog trend. 45:07.000 --> 45:08.000 Short for web blog. 45:08.000 --> 45:10.000 Sort of an online diary. 45:10.000 --> 45:12.000 And like the beginnings of the blogging trend. 45:12.000 --> 45:16.000 Today's podcastures are mostly extreme computer users. 45:16.000 --> 45:21.000 The early adopters for whom the word nerd is a badge of honor. 45:21.000 --> 45:25.000 But increasingly, their content is going mainstream. 45:25.000 --> 45:29.000 Well, good afternoon, friends, family, world leaders. 45:29.000 --> 45:32.000 Welcome to the Daily Source Code for Wednesday October. 45:32.000 --> 45:36.000 This guy Adam Curry used to be a VJMTV. 45:36.000 --> 45:41.000 Now, he produces a daily podcast out of his castle in the Netherlands. 45:41.000 --> 45:45.000 Actually, we got a lot of cool things lined up for today's show. 45:45.000 --> 45:48.000 I've got a couple of songs to play for you. 45:48.000 --> 45:51.000 Lots of examples of new podcasts. 45:51.000 --> 45:56.000 One of the reasons podcasting is taking off is the way it's distributed. 45:56.000 --> 45:59.000 Listeners can download the show and play it on their computer, 45:59.000 --> 46:01.000 but there's an easier way. 46:01.000 --> 46:03.000 Using special software, 46:03.000 --> 46:07.000 listeners who own iPods, those portable music devices from Apple, 46:07.000 --> 46:12.000 can have their iPod automatically store the latest episode of their favorite show. 46:12.000 --> 46:17.000 It's sort of like a VCR that takes your favorite programs overnight while you sleep. 46:17.000 --> 46:21.000 Except in this case, it's taping radio shows. 46:21.000 --> 46:25.000 For now, if you want to catch a podcast, you'll have to hunt around. 46:25.000 --> 46:28.000 The main website that lists available shows, podcaster.net, 46:28.000 --> 46:31.000 only has about 35 shows listed. 46:31.000 --> 46:33.000 But that number is growing daily. 46:33.000 --> 46:37.000 As more people become self-made talk show hosts. 46:37.000 --> 46:41.000 And that is getting some radio executives nervous. 46:41.000 --> 46:43.000 Think about it. 46:43.000 --> 46:46.000 With enough of an audience of iPod listeners, 46:46.000 --> 46:51.000 it's entirely possible some of the better podcasters could actually attract advertisers. 46:51.000 --> 46:56.000 Advertisers who want to reach tech savvy and niche market listeners. 46:56.000 --> 47:01.000 In that scenario, radio stations, as we traditionally know them, 47:01.000 --> 47:03.000 would become irrelevant. 47:03.000 --> 47:06.000 Who needs to tune to a particular station, 47:06.000 --> 47:09.000 or even bookmark a specific website. 47:09.000 --> 47:13.000 If every morning, your listening device is already filtered out the shows you don't like, 47:13.000 --> 47:16.000 and left the few you do. 47:16.000 --> 47:19.000 You might argue it's already happening to television, 47:19.000 --> 47:23.000 where fewer viewers stick with a single channel through a whole evening, 47:23.000 --> 47:28.000 but rather pick and choose based on the show brand. 47:28.000 --> 47:32.000 Either way, today's podcasters are onto something, 47:32.000 --> 47:35.000 with that they realize it or not. 47:35.000 --> 47:39.000 Can I internet for a CDC radio? 47:39.000 --> 47:41.000 I'm Todd Maffin. 47:41.000 --> 47:44.000 Excellent piece, absolutely phenomenal. 47:44.000 --> 47:49.000 And actually, I'm considering adding that to the default feed 47:49.000 --> 47:51.000 that iPoders are now using. 47:51.000 --> 47:54.000 You know, you have the welcome, the kind of like hello world it worked 47:54.000 --> 47:55.000 and installed. 47:55.000 --> 47:57.000 I'm considering adding that one. 47:57.000 --> 47:59.000 It's not too big in file size, 47:59.000 --> 48:02.000 and I think it'll be just cool if that all sudden started playing. 48:02.000 --> 48:05.000 You'd really get a good idea of what's already out there. 48:05.000 --> 48:10.000 It mentions iPodor.net, which they have more than 35 feeds now. 48:10.000 --> 48:12.000 They have about 64 feeds. 48:12.000 --> 48:15.000 I'm considering asking those guys if they would like to become a node 48:15.000 --> 48:18.000 of the directory of iPodor.org, 48:18.000 --> 48:22.000 they have some different, they travel in different circles. 48:22.000 --> 48:24.000 So let's connect this together. 48:24.000 --> 48:27.000 Let's make this as big as possible. 48:27.000 --> 48:29.000 Okay, so you've set through all of that. 48:29.000 --> 48:33.000 It's about 48 minutes into your hour that we're here on the source code. 48:33.000 --> 48:36.000 Gonna play you a song that'll pick up your spirits for a Monday. 48:36.000 --> 48:38.000 It's Grand Funk Railroad. 48:38.000 --> 48:42.000 I don't need a whole lots of money. 48:42.000 --> 51:31.250 [ Music ] 51:32.640 --> 51:35.640 Grandfog Railroad, some kind of wonderful, on the source code. 51:35.640 --> 51:36.640 My name's Adam Curry. 51:36.640 --> 51:41.640 The show came to you from the bunker, the canal house in Amsterdam. 51:41.640 --> 51:43.640 Looking forward to another show tomorrow. 51:43.640 --> 51:46.640 Keep all the good stuff coming, all the bits, all the short clips. 51:46.640 --> 51:50.640 Everything you find, send it to me, I love it, point me to URLs, whatever. 51:50.640 --> 51:54.640 Just about anything that can play audio, I can record. 51:54.640 --> 51:56.640 So, love to see more of that. 51:56.640 --> 51:58.640 Keep the podcasts coming as well. 51:58.640 --> 52:01.640 I'm subscribed to just about everything that comes in. 52:01.640 --> 52:04.640 I've unsubscribe from a few, just because, well, you know what, 52:04.640 --> 52:08.640 the big problem, the reason why is because hard drive size. 52:08.640 --> 52:12.640 Looks like we're finally in an industry where size really does matter. 52:12.640 --> 52:15.640 And that'll be it for me for today. 52:15.640 --> 52:18.640 Have you ever heard of this show? 52:19.640 --> 52:23.640 As always, comments are welcome through my email at amercurry.com 52:23.640 --> 52:28.640 or through my weblogger to post a comment on live.curry.com. 52:28.640 --> 52:34.640 And all the archives of the show and the podcast RSS feed are available at dailysourcecode.com. 52:40.640 --> 52:43.640 Hey, I'm going to have lunch. I'm out of here. Bye-bye. 52:48.640 --> 52:58.640 Bye-bye.