WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.000 We are casting all's life, and I'm curry. 00:11.000 --> 00:14.000 Hi everybody and good evening. 00:14.000 --> 00:15.000 Or good afternoon. 00:15.000 --> 00:16.000 Good morning. 00:16.000 --> 00:17.000 Whatever it is, where you are. 00:17.000 --> 00:19.000 Welcome to your daily source code. 00:19.000 --> 00:21.000 It's Thursday, October 21st, 2004. 00:21.000 --> 00:25.000 I'm not a curry coming to you from Flanders, Belgium. 00:25.000 --> 00:29.000 We're back in the bar slash studio here at Curry Castle. 00:29.000 --> 00:33.000 It's been a long day today. 00:33.000 --> 00:36.000 As you know, I stayed over at the bunker last night in Amsterdam, 00:36.000 --> 00:38.000 and I had the shareholders meeting today. 00:38.000 --> 00:45.000 Sat in plenty of traffic, although I did contemplate reporting the source code in the car. 00:45.000 --> 00:48.000 I had so many clips and bits I had set up and wanted to play for, 00:48.000 --> 00:50.000 but I decided just to wait till I got home. 00:50.000 --> 00:54.000 We've got the in-laws here tonight. 00:54.000 --> 00:58.000 Oh, my pie has a little bit harder hearing, 00:58.000 --> 01:00.000 so that you might be at the TV in the background, 01:00.000 --> 01:02.000 because we like to crank it up for him. 01:02.000 --> 01:04.000 Can I say hello? 01:10.000 --> 01:14.000 And you may hear some keyboard rattling in the background, 01:14.000 --> 01:16.000 as well as Christina. 01:16.000 --> 01:18.000 What are you doing, huh? 01:18.000 --> 01:20.000 What are you doing? 01:21.000 --> 01:23.000 And TV message board. 01:23.000 --> 01:26.000 Don't tell me you're posting good Charlotte stuff. 01:28.000 --> 01:31.000 Okay, she's yelling at people for saying good Charlotte. 01:31.000 --> 01:32.000 That's right. 01:32.000 --> 01:40.000 Anyway, so we've got the source code cranked on this side of our community space here in the castle. 01:40.000 --> 01:43.000 And the first thing I want to say is, 01:43.000 --> 01:47.000 there is almost no way to express my thanks, 01:47.000 --> 01:56.000 but also that of my family for the incredible outpouring of good thoughts and prayers and love. 01:56.000 --> 02:03.000 And just wonderful words and hundreds of emails and stories that you shared. 02:03.000 --> 02:05.000 Weblog postings. 02:05.000 --> 02:08.000 It was really absolutely phenomenal. 02:08.000 --> 02:12.000 And there were so many audio comments that came in. 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 We were all just totally dumbfounded. 02:14.000 --> 02:16.000 It was absolutely beautiful. 02:16.000 --> 02:18.000 I thank you so much. 02:18.000 --> 02:25.000 And I could fill three daily source codes with just the audio comments alone that were said. 02:25.000 --> 02:27.000 It was so beautiful. 02:27.000 --> 02:32.000 And so I'm not going to delve on it too long and play too much stuff. 02:32.000 --> 02:38.000 I can tell you, though, that mom underwent her PET scan today. 02:38.000 --> 02:41.000 That's the radioactive fluid. 02:41.000 --> 02:45.000 And I spoke to her after the test and she sounded great. 02:45.000 --> 02:49.000 She was really happy with her first volume experience. 02:49.000 --> 02:55.000 And she's really extremely positive and everything you've said and done really, really helps. 02:55.000 --> 03:00.000 So I'm not going to, I do with this one particular audio comment I wanted to say, 03:00.000 --> 03:10.000 I wanted to play for you that was sent in because there were just some things that really picked me up and gave me a lot of energy, a great energy boost. 03:10.000 --> 03:16.000 And the bit I'm going to play for you is from Raymond Port, who, well, if you don't remember, 03:16.000 --> 03:21.000 I met him just a couple of weeks ago for the first time while on the road in traffic. 03:21.000 --> 03:26.000 Here's what he sent to me in light of yesterday's source code. 03:26.000 --> 03:28.000 Hello, world. 03:28.000 --> 03:30.000 Anyone there? 03:30.000 --> 03:32.000 Sounds kind of funny to start. 03:32.000 --> 03:38.000 I know the recording of like this, but I think it's appropriate being the first audio recordings since, 03:38.000 --> 03:40.000 I don't know, five, six years. 03:40.000 --> 03:46.000 It's supposed to be an audio comment to the daily source code of 20 of October, 2010 and 4. 03:46.000 --> 03:52.000 Adam, yes, so that you got me in probably many others wondering, what does that mean? 03:52.000 --> 03:54.000 Why is there no daily source codes? 03:54.000 --> 03:57.000 There must be probably a very good reason for that. 03:57.000 --> 04:01.000 Well, today in the show it turned out to be actually a very bad reason. 04:01.000 --> 04:03.000 Didn't use about your mom. 04:04.000 --> 04:14.000 Well, you're telling sharing actually your feelings and explaining why and how and what it got me, 04:14.000 --> 04:18.000 also emotional and probably others too. 04:18.000 --> 04:28.000 It showed actually that there's one thing that you really have what it takes to get the reality of life into the show. 04:28.000 --> 04:31.000 And this has happened many times before. 04:31.000 --> 04:37.000 One time, I remember as the day of two weeks ago almost. 04:37.000 --> 04:45.000 And that's when we kind of met when you were doing your daily source codes recording from the car. 04:45.000 --> 04:48.000 And I was passing by in traffic jam. 04:48.000 --> 04:52.000 It got me to the energy boost that you were talking about. 04:52.000 --> 04:57.000 And I thought it would be nice to give you a little bit of energy back. 04:57.000 --> 05:00.000 Take care in coming days, weeks, months. 05:00.000 --> 05:04.000 And remember that many are with you in thoughts. 05:04.000 --> 05:05.000 See ya. 05:05.000 --> 05:08.000 So, but it was cool and college radio is cool. 05:08.000 --> 05:10.000 And this podcast... 05:10.000 --> 05:15.000 Hey, someone's holding up his iPod. 05:15.000 --> 05:17.000 Hold on, roll on your window. 05:17.000 --> 05:20.000 Exit the net, thank you all for the name. 05:20.000 --> 05:21.000 Here, come here. 05:21.000 --> 05:23.000 What's going on there? 05:23.000 --> 05:24.000 Rainbow boards. 05:24.000 --> 05:25.000 Rainbow boards. 05:25.000 --> 05:26.000 Okay dude. 05:27.000 --> 05:31.000 Dude, we checked out a guy just drove up next to me. 05:31.000 --> 05:34.000 And he's honking his horn and he's holding his iPod off. 05:34.000 --> 05:37.000 And he's saying, I'm listening to the podcast. 05:37.000 --> 05:40.000 God damn, I said, I'm recording one right now. 05:40.000 --> 05:41.000 It's a Raymond. 05:41.000 --> 05:42.000 Buddy. 05:42.000 --> 05:44.000 Oh, that's very cool. 05:44.000 --> 05:45.000 See? 05:45.000 --> 05:46.000 This is what I mean. 05:46.000 --> 05:47.000 This is what it's all about. 05:47.000 --> 05:48.000 Oh, that gives me a boost of energy. 05:48.000 --> 05:52.000 So, you can imagine that I got another boost as I heard that again. 05:52.000 --> 05:55.000 And remember that, you know, I have a new friend. 05:55.000 --> 05:56.000 His name is Raymond. 05:56.000 --> 05:58.000 You know, we met two weeks ago on the highway. 05:58.000 --> 05:59.000 Thanks to the podcasting. 05:59.000 --> 06:04.000 And just so much good and positive energy coming from all over the world. 06:04.000 --> 06:06.000 Really, really appreciated. 06:06.000 --> 06:09.000 And so, as I was alone in the bunker last night, 06:09.000 --> 06:11.000 and I had the bandwidth all to myself. 06:11.000 --> 06:15.000 Of course, we have a high-speed connection there as well. 06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 Only there's no bandwidth limits at all. 06:17.000 --> 06:21.000 So, I was subscribing and checking out audio.weblogs.com 06:21.000 --> 06:24.000 and listening to everything new is it popped up, you know, 06:24.000 --> 06:25.000 refreshing the page. 06:25.000 --> 06:26.000 Like, oh, what's this? 06:26.000 --> 06:27.000 You know, it's a new one. 06:27.000 --> 06:30.000 By the way, if you want to get on audio.weblogs.com, 06:30.000 --> 06:31.000 it's real simple. 06:31.000 --> 06:34.000 All you have to do is ping the server. 06:34.000 --> 06:37.000 And it's a great place for, it's a great resource 06:37.000 --> 06:39.000 to go and check out what's, you know, was just updated. 06:39.000 --> 06:42.000 So, even if you have iPod or, you know, 06:42.000 --> 06:44.000 just anywhere browser will let, you know, 06:44.000 --> 06:46.000 if one of your favorites is updated or you might find something 06:46.000 --> 06:49.000 that's completely new that you didn't know about before. 06:50.000 --> 06:54.000 And there's information on how to ping the server 06:54.000 --> 06:59.000 either through a web form or there's some technical information 06:59.000 --> 07:02.000 there about how you're blogging client and blogging tool 07:02.000 --> 07:03.000 can do it. 07:03.000 --> 07:06.000 And there's lots of people all over the place who will be willing to help you. 07:06.000 --> 07:09.000 So, as I was checking out the new shows and the regular shows, 07:09.000 --> 07:12.000 my day completely, completely was made. 07:12.000 --> 07:15.000 I mean, I was just, I was bugging out. 07:15.000 --> 07:16.000 I was so happy. 07:16.000 --> 07:21.000 I was listening to the Dawn and Drew show from two days earlier 07:21.000 --> 07:22.000 because I was catching up. 07:22.000 --> 07:27.000 And I heard, I mean, I heard just the most beautiful, 07:27.000 --> 07:30.000 beautiful poem, and I want to share it with you. 07:30.000 --> 07:32.000 I need an iPod. 07:32.000 --> 07:34.000 I need it so bad. 07:34.000 --> 07:36.000 I would give blow jobs on the corner. 07:36.000 --> 07:39.000 They'd be the best you ever had. 07:39.000 --> 07:43.000 If you gave me an iPod, I'd suck on your wiener. 07:44.000 --> 07:48.000 I'm half with a wiener and half Colombian being here. 07:51.000 --> 07:53.000 Oh man, that really made my day. 07:53.000 --> 07:56.000 So, as promised, some indie music for you. 07:56.000 --> 07:58.000 I'm going to kick it off with some Dutch guys. 08:00.000 --> 08:03.000 Oh, we're way happy that they're on the podcast. 08:03.000 --> 08:05.000 Recording entirely on a Macintosh in their attic. 08:05.000 --> 08:07.000 It's my Jones and TV junkie. 08:08.750 --> 11:24.000 [ Music ] 11:24.000 --> 11:27.000 Channel 4's got a new vision to discuss for 11:27.000 --> 11:29.000 Channel 3's got a new vision to discuss for 11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 Channel 3's lacking to discuss for 11:30.000 --> 11:47.000 Go Jones on the source code TV junkie. You can find them at mojones.com moj. 11:47.000 --> 11:58.000 Two brothers from the Netherlands who have been just touring around the country. Also parts of Belgium for the longest time. 11:58.000 --> 12:07.000 They recorded this in their attic on a Mac. I don't know if you heard the Mac fanatics will have heard the start-up long sound there midway in the track. 12:07.000 --> 12:10.000 I really think these guys are really really kick-ass. 12:10.000 --> 12:18.000 And if you want to get your band or your song or it doesn't have to be rock and roll, it can be any style. 12:18.000 --> 12:28.000 Let me know where I can download an MP3, check it out and make sure you also give me permission to do that. 12:28.000 --> 12:33.000 Christina was actually sitting here listening to me sing along with mojones. She said, well, play some good Charlotte. 12:33.000 --> 12:37.000 Very hard to explain to her that we're going to get in trouble when we can't actually play that. 12:37.000 --> 12:42.000 And what was I supposed to do, go top to epic events? 12:42.000 --> 12:46.000 Blackmail them. Oh, baby, what a great idea. 12:46.000 --> 12:56.000 All right, moving along. A little bit of semi-techno nerdy stuff here. Of course, try to make users and developers get together and party on the source code. 12:56.000 --> 13:00.000 I ran across a great use of podcasting. 13:00.000 --> 13:08.000 From the iPod or developers mailing list and anyone can join that. You can see the link on the iPod.org homepage. 13:08.000 --> 13:15.000 Join up and you can contribute. You don't have to join all the conversations. You don't have to understand that all. 13:15.000 --> 13:19.000 And that works both ways by the way for users and developers. 13:19.000 --> 13:26.000 And the iPod or developer team is using, well, let Garth kid explain it himself. 13:26.000 --> 13:32.000 They're using their own technology while building the technology. Listen to a bit of this podcast. 13:32.000 --> 13:39.000 Good morning. Welcome to the introductory iPod development team podcast. As we scale the team and power users start contributing code, 13:39.000 --> 13:43.000 we need a way to keep each other up to date, despite incredibly flooded mailboxes. 13:43.000 --> 13:47.000 And the way I figure it is, what better way than to eat our own dog food. 13:47.000 --> 13:51.000 This won't be a daily half hour, thank god, to probably most of you. 13:51.000 --> 13:58.000 It's probably going to be more intermittent small items, maybe once every few days or sometimes a few times in one day. 13:59.000 --> 14:07.000 Who the hell am I? I'm Garth kid. It's Garth K at Gmail.com or GDK as as far as the CVS updates are concerned. 14:07.000 --> 14:11.000 Radio, user land, early birds might remember my big mouth. 14:11.000 --> 14:16.000 For a change, guys, I'm contributing as much code as I am would. 14:16.000 --> 14:23.000 Actually, probably more. And to give you a break, I intend that the other developers are going to be dropping items into this cast as well. 14:23.000 --> 14:27.000 I'm not going to be on 100% golf taking it off. 14:27.000 --> 14:33.000 Okay, Garth, get ahead of yourself there. So he goes on, he goes on for quite a bit longer. 14:33.000 --> 14:38.000 And actually, at the end of that first podcast, he let slip that they're working on a new release. 14:38.000 --> 14:43.000 And then now getting everything together and figuring out what features they want to put in there. 14:43.000 --> 14:49.000 And I suggest, if you're interested in you use the iPodder that they're working on, iPodder 1.0, 14:49.000 --> 14:58.000 or Windows Mac, you should subscribe to that and check it out because maybe there's something in there that you have an idea about that you couldn't contribute to, 14:58.000 --> 15:03.000 just from your own experience in using their iPodder program. 15:03.000 --> 15:12.000 Something else that I thought was interesting set-up wise came in from a podcast. 15:12.000 --> 15:15.000 Let's see, I wrote it down here. 15:15.000 --> 15:18.000 Oh, shoot. I forgot what it's called, ITT. 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 It's a gentleman who comes. 15:20.000 --> 15:26.000 The number one rated podcaster in the entire town of Bottle Washington. 15:26.000 --> 15:29.000 Right on, the creator of In the trenches. 15:29.000 --> 15:30.000 There it is, yeah. 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 Your host, Kevin Devin. 15:32.000 --> 15:33.000 Right, it's In the trenches, okay. 15:33.000 --> 15:37.000 And he's setting up Skype recording on a podcast. 15:37.000 --> 15:40.000 Interesting way of putting it together, though. 15:40.000 --> 15:45.000 Because apparently, it still takes two computers to really deal it right. 15:51.000 --> 15:56.000 Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, whatever it may be where you're at. 15:56.000 --> 16:02.000 Welcome to this edition of In the trenches. 16:03.000 --> 16:06.000 As far as that intro goes, I have to say, I like it. 16:06.000 --> 16:12.000 And it's mine, so until it gets old, I'm going to go ahead and keep it in there for a while. 16:12.000 --> 16:18.000 I altered it a little bit this week just to kind of play around with it a little bit. 16:18.000 --> 16:23.000 But I get others, I'll maybe put those in in this place, but for now, I'm kind of liking that one. 16:23.000 --> 16:25.000 So I'm just going to keep it there for a little bit. 16:25.000 --> 16:31.000 So anyway, I had intended for this podcast to be done entirely. 16:31.000 --> 16:33.000 Via Skype. 16:33.000 --> 16:39.000 I've been working on a method to do it. 16:39.000 --> 16:46.000 I had done it once before, and I was pleased with that, but I wanted it something a little better. 16:46.000 --> 16:56.000 Unfortunately, tonight's attempts turn out to be worse than what I had done previously. 16:57.000 --> 17:06.000 But it did introduce a couple of cool elements into the whole mix, which I'm going to go ahead and play a clip of that anyway. 17:06.000 --> 17:14.000 I did save some of it, I didn't throw it all on the floor, but I want to play some of it and just check it out. 17:14.000 --> 17:17.000 It's actually kind of neat. 17:17.000 --> 17:20.000 All right, with me tonight, I have Chad Davis. 17:20.000 --> 17:31.000 Chad is a consultant working out of Konosha Wisconsin, and the operator operator of a blog. 17:31.000 --> 17:33.000 Now I know what you're thinking, right? 17:33.000 --> 17:38.000 It sounds really noisy this connection, but wait until you find out what these guys actually have hooked up. 17:38.000 --> 17:40.000 That's very cool. 17:40.000 --> 17:46.000 What are the interesting things of this podcast and what makes this one different from the others? 17:46.000 --> 17:51.000 Is the equipment that we're using in this instance? 17:51.000 --> 17:57.000 Now, many people have talked about using Skype to facilitate the creation of a podcast interview or conversation. 17:57.000 --> 18:09.000 But I've noticed that folks have had a lot of problems either getting Skype to either capture both sides of the conversation or be able to route the audio internally, 18:09.000 --> 18:20.000 and almost impossible on a Microsoft or on a PC, a little bit easier on a Mac, but still there are some challenges. 18:20.000 --> 18:22.000 Now in this instance, I'm cheating. 18:22.000 --> 18:26.000 I'm actually using two computers to facilitate this evening. 18:26.000 --> 18:32.000 I'm actually using Skype on my PC to create the conference call, okay, for one. 18:33.000 --> 18:40.000 The conference, I conference in the members, and I open up another session on the Mac. 18:40.000 --> 18:42.000 It's an iMac 17. 18:42.000 --> 18:50.000 I launched the conference call, answered on the iMac, and then mute the mic and turn the volume all the way down on the Mac. 18:50.000 --> 18:58.000 Now the key piece of software here is a program called Audio Hydeject Pro from Rogue Amoeba, software. 18:58.000 --> 19:01.000 I simply hijacked the application and began recording. 19:01.000 --> 19:07.000 When I'm done, I end up having an MP3 that's ready to go with the entire conversation, getting up course both ends, 19:07.000 --> 19:10.000 because all that Mac is doing is just recording. 19:10.000 --> 19:13.000 So it's really slick in that aspect. 19:13.000 --> 19:19.000 Now I know what you're thinking, so why didn't you just use the iMac to do it all? 19:19.000 --> 19:25.000 Well, my thing is I want the ability to conference in more than just one person at a time. 19:26.000 --> 19:29.000 Right now you can't do that with Skype on the Mac platform. 19:29.000 --> 19:33.000 So, but I can do it on the PC. 19:33.000 --> 19:37.000 So, what I'm doing is I'm just using the best of both worlds. 19:37.000 --> 19:45.000 So, that's how I've got to set up and one thing I'm pleased with is the audio quality of Skype. 19:45.000 --> 19:50.000 It's better than the way I was doing it before, which was just solely on the PC on my laptop, 19:50.000 --> 19:57.000 but I was utilizing the speakers on my laptop to get the sound back up into the mic so that the other person could hear, 19:57.000 --> 20:01.000 and I could pick up both ends of the conversation. 20:01.000 --> 20:04.000 So, it's really kind of a cookie way of doing it there. 20:04.000 --> 20:12.000 And I didn't really like the speaking to my screen rather than having a headset. 20:12.000 --> 20:19.000 So, I wanted to use Chad for this initial Skype podcast for a couple of reasons. 20:19.000 --> 20:24.000 First off, this guy's been working on a logo for the show now for nearly the past week. 20:24.000 --> 20:27.000 Okay, I want to ask if I want to go for that. 20:27.000 --> 20:28.000 Okay. 20:28.000 --> 20:33.000 The stuff that he said to put up, let's do something else. 20:33.000 --> 20:34.000 Yeah. 20:34.000 --> 20:36.000 I don't know if I can get it to come on. 20:36.000 --> 20:37.000 You know. 20:37.000 --> 20:38.000 And it's a problem. 20:38.000 --> 20:40.000 I don't like that idea. 20:40.000 --> 20:42.000 So, I just want to say, I appreciate it. 20:42.000 --> 20:43.000 Yeah, I don't know if it is. 20:43.000 --> 20:44.000 Let him talk. 20:44.000 --> 20:45.000 Hi, Pack. 20:45.000 --> 20:46.000 Yeah, here it is. 20:46.000 --> 20:48.000 Check out at least what his Skype call is on. 20:48.000 --> 20:53.000 He's using an iPad on the other end of this line and you'll hear a lot of noise in the background. 20:53.000 --> 20:57.000 But that's because he's using an iPad with Skype loaded. 20:57.000 --> 21:03.000 So, in this instance, we're in this podcasting experience that we're doing tonight. 21:03.000 --> 21:12.000 We're using an iPad, a laptop, you know, a Toshiba laptop, and an IMAX 17. 21:12.000 --> 21:13.000 Okay. 21:13.000 --> 21:16.000 All I can say about this is, damn cool. 21:16.000 --> 21:17.000 What do you do? 21:17.000 --> 21:18.000 Chad? 21:18.000 --> 21:22.000 Yeah, it's a pretty elaborate set up to do a pretty simple thing. 21:22.000 --> 21:25.000 But it works and it's only going to get easier and better. 21:25.000 --> 21:26.000 I'm sure. 21:26.000 --> 21:28.000 I have a community. 21:28.000 --> 21:31.000 And the other thing that's kind of, you know, meat on this end. 21:31.000 --> 21:36.000 I'm just saying here, I mean, using my Pack and PC is, you know, I'm just running over a Wi-Fi connection. 21:36.000 --> 21:40.000 So I'm basically, you know, free of anything. 21:41.000 --> 21:42.000 Okay. 21:42.000 --> 21:46.000 So, um, and now a lot of you have been sending me emails about the Skype development team, 21:46.000 --> 21:54.000 because, you know, the Mac software for a Skype is significantly behind the Windows version of it. 21:54.000 --> 21:58.000 So I now, I now know that Skype Windows can do conference calling. 21:58.000 --> 22:03.000 Now, I already used Skype to do with Skype out to actually, you know, make actual telephone calls. 22:03.000 --> 22:06.000 It is almost the perfect piece of software. 22:06.000 --> 22:10.000 We shouldn't have to be stringing up multiple computers together to make it work. 22:10.000 --> 22:15.000 You know, and lots of people who are trying to, you know, get me on the leads with the development team. 22:15.000 --> 22:18.000 But they must not have their ears on or something, man. 22:18.000 --> 22:24.000 Because they're, look at what people are willing to do and to what lengths for willing to go to try and use your software. 22:24.000 --> 22:29.000 I hope you hear us, you know, reach out so that we can start giving you some real feedback here. 22:29.000 --> 22:31.000 You know, I've looked around. 22:31.000 --> 22:38.000 Yeah, I know that their developers apparently are in Estonia, but I can't find any, any developer lists or whatever. 22:38.000 --> 22:39.000 I just have nowhere to look. 22:39.000 --> 22:47.000 So I hope that they're listening because, you know, their software could be a very important integrated part of what podcasting is all about. 22:47.000 --> 22:49.000 So that comes from in the trenches, a great podcast. 22:49.000 --> 22:55.000 You can find it, of course, from, uh, or through iPod.org in our directory under the technology section. 22:56.000 --> 22:59.000 See, what else do they want to hit? Oh, I've got so many cool things. 22:59.000 --> 23:02.000 I've got different all different user podcasts in today's show. 23:02.000 --> 23:09.000 And some more great RIA free music on the way by a well-known established man who've done something cool. 23:09.000 --> 23:18.000 But first, a little bit of podcast history for those of you just kind of tuning into the source code and new to the whole podcast phenomenon. 23:18.000 --> 23:21.000 Hey, it's only what? Two and a half, three months old. 23:21.000 --> 23:27.000 Bill kind of sums it up and there's next audio comment that he sends it to Dave and myself. 23:27.000 --> 23:29.000 And check out somebody else to say. 23:29.000 --> 23:36.000 And I'm Korean Dave Weiner subject to this audio note is podcasting takes off. Thanks to Adam and Dave. 23:36.000 --> 23:45.000 I've been listening to, to you and Dave, audio blogs since they, since you really ignited the movement and podcasting, which, if you can believe it, 23:45.000 --> 23:50.000 it was only back in mid August, as I recall for Adam, it was Friday the 13th. 23:50.000 --> 23:57.000 Why would you pick such a beginning? Anyhow, no sign of what was to come because things have been great. 23:57.000 --> 24:02.000 Adam, you're, you're podcasting is a bit more polished than Dave's. 24:02.000 --> 24:05.000 And I'm sure it's because you're experiencing the entertainment. 24:05.000 --> 24:07.000 I'm also much prettier. 24:07.000 --> 24:12.000 But both of you are just really set apart from the rest of the crowd. 24:12.000 --> 24:19.000 Mainly because you're attitude, you're both so excited and it comes through loud and clear in your, in your postings in your podcast. 24:19.000 --> 24:26.000 Something that I might add would be nearly impossible to convey in the usual blogging fashion with text. 24:26.000 --> 24:33.000 The excitement carries in to the intellectual domain as you guys feed off of each other, talking about the future of podcasting. 24:33.000 --> 24:38.000 How the momentum is building the multitude of possibilities, trade secrets show. 24:38.000 --> 24:43.000 It's for the naysayers that you're still kind of hanging around out there, but I think seller falling by the wayside. 24:43.000 --> 24:47.000 You know, they keep whining about I did an audio blog, back in blah, blah, blah, blah. 24:47.000 --> 24:51.000 But I might point out that you're just in what you do not what you say. 24:51.000 --> 24:55.000 And YouTube guys, certainly have done it for the rest of us. 24:55.000 --> 25:01.000 Set in the example day after day, sharing your growth with us on the HowToSide, establishingipider.org. 25:01.000 --> 25:05.000 And all the enabling infrastructure that that entails. 25:05.000 --> 25:10.000 Don't know if or when I might start podcasting, but for now I'm really enjoying the ride. 25:10.000 --> 25:14.000 As I listen to you guys and Dave Slusher and others, 25:14.000 --> 25:20.000 Hammy some truly enjoyable tracks to entertain and educate me when I, when I choose and how I choose. 25:20.000 --> 25:23.000 Anyhow over and out, this is Bill Riskai. 25:23.000 --> 25:26.000 You can email me at bill at riskai.biz. 25:26.000 --> 25:27.000 All right, Bill. 25:27.000 --> 25:31.000 So this might have sounded a little bit like a strokeathon, which of course is always appreciated. 25:31.000 --> 25:42.000 But the point here is that, you know, this is really the history of, of, of, of, of, of, I bother and podcasting and just about two minutes there that Bill sent in. 25:42.000 --> 25:49.000 And, you know, I've been doing a lot of interviews, a lot of people have been calling me and Dave for publications, you know, 25:49.000 --> 25:53.000 What's going on with this podcasting? What's it all about? What is I potter? 25:54.000 --> 26:03.000 And, you know, I found that as journalists start looking more and more into it into the phenomenon that's happening here, what's going on. 26:03.000 --> 26:12.000 You know, that, yeah, there's been a lot of people putting up stuff in MP3 form on the web that is not necessarily, you know, a track of a song, you know, 26:12.000 --> 26:14.000 That's being used for all kinds of different purposes in audio. 26:14.000 --> 26:16.000 Go look at archive.org. 26:16.000 --> 26:22.000 I mean, there's, there's just amazing amounts of, of great sound available at the MP3 format. 26:22.000 --> 26:24.000 And it's been available for years, of course. 26:24.000 --> 26:29.000 The only thing that was added here was, you know, just a couple of connections in the distribution. 26:29.000 --> 26:36.000 But I do also want to point out that Chris Leiden, who Dave worked with about a year ago, 26:36.000 --> 26:44.000 was definitely the first person to put up a regular series of MP3s in an RSS feed as enclosures. 26:44.000 --> 26:48.000 And I'd been receiving those through my radio, userland aggregator. 26:48.000 --> 26:52.000 So, you know, it's, it's been a process. It's not just Dave and I. 26:52.000 --> 27:00.000 It's been the process of, you know, a lot of things working together and some important protocols and formats that were established along the way. 27:00.000 --> 27:03.000 And it just seems to be growing, you know, I keep saying, 27:03.000 --> 27:06.000 When is the hype going to be over, but it doesn't seem to be slowing at all, 27:06.000 --> 27:13.000 Particularly when I see the kind of content that's coming online and I have to, and this would definitely qualify as content this next podcast. 27:13.000 --> 27:18.000 I'm not quite sure if it's something that's repurposed that is already being created. 27:18.000 --> 27:21.000 It sounds like it could be, but then again, maybe not. 27:21.000 --> 27:26.000 And it is qualifying as a podcast and it's a weekly show and it's brand new. 27:26.000 --> 27:28.000 I caught it off audio.weblogs.com. 27:28.000 --> 27:32.000 It's the agriculture news weekly. 27:32.000 --> 27:36.000 And I love the whole sound of the show. 27:36.000 --> 27:40.000 You kind of get to get that Dallas vibe here from their music. 27:40.000 --> 27:41.000 Perfect. 27:42.000 --> 27:43.000 Come on. 27:43.000 --> 27:44.000 Great job. 27:44.000 --> 27:46.000 Congratulations to Texas on the campus of Texas A&M University. 27:46.000 --> 27:51.000 It's active weekly for Monday, October 18, 2004. 27:51.000 --> 27:55.000 We've got a hype about 90 degrees here in Texas and College Station. 27:55.000 --> 27:56.000 High humidity. 27:56.000 --> 28:01.000 I could take with the high humidity rate is right now, but it's, it's pretty sticky outside. 28:01.000 --> 28:03.000 Got a lot of good stuff going on today. 28:03.000 --> 28:07.000 In particular, our key news item of the day is, 28:07.000 --> 28:10.000 look at the U.S. exports to Cuba. 28:10.000 --> 28:14.000 They've more than doubled from a year ago, according to Dr. Parasin, 28:14.000 --> 28:20.000 who's our extension economist in the director of the Center for North American Studies at Texas A&M. 28:20.000 --> 28:21.000 Paras. 28:21.000 --> 28:25.000 I don't know if you want to know all that about Cuba and agriculture, 28:25.000 --> 28:29.000 but obviously the point here is that this is an excellent use. 28:29.000 --> 28:33.000 What a incredible information value this can have. 28:33.000 --> 28:38.000 I can just see all kinds of guys rolling around on the prairie with their iPods and their side holsters, 28:38.000 --> 28:39.000 but it's great. 28:39.000 --> 28:42.000 I'm really happy to see this kind of stuff come along. 28:42.000 --> 28:45.000 And also, we've been talking about different languages coming online. 28:45.000 --> 28:51.000 A lot of German podcasts have counted five or six that have come up in the just past week. 28:51.000 --> 28:56.000 And some exciting news from our German friends who are responsible for the poet cast. 28:56.000 --> 28:57.000 Hello, Adam. 28:57.000 --> 28:59.000 This is Christian Hesman from Germany. 28:59.000 --> 29:04.000 I'm the host of the poet cast, German podcast about poetry. 29:04.000 --> 29:09.000 And of course, normally this wouldn't be that entertaining for your audience, 29:09.000 --> 29:12.000 but today I have the chance to introduce a guest on my show, 29:12.000 --> 29:14.000 Bratty Chapman from the U.S. 29:14.000 --> 29:18.000 And here I'd like to participate on my show on a regular basis. 29:18.000 --> 29:22.000 I hope at least once a week, and to read English poetry. 29:22.000 --> 29:28.000 Which means I'll do a complete English podcast from time to time. 29:28.000 --> 29:33.000 And I thought this might be something the international community might be interested in. 29:33.000 --> 29:39.000 You might check it out at www.hesi.org-potcast. 29:39.000 --> 29:44.000 This is h-e-s-i.org-s-potcast. 29:44.000 --> 29:46.000 And keep up the good work. 29:46.000 --> 29:48.000 Goodbye from Germany. 29:48.000 --> 29:50.000 Okay, thank you very much, Christian. 29:50.000 --> 29:54.000 So that's German podcast, which now will come to you in English. 29:54.000 --> 29:56.000 And you can subscribe to it. 29:56.000 --> 30:00.000 So it'll come into your iPod, your MP3 player completely automatically. 30:00.000 --> 30:08.000 Now, we found out that there is indeed a language element for the Finnish language in RSS 2.0. 30:08.000 --> 30:13.000 And it looks like our Scandinavian friends are really catching on with the podcast, 30:13.000 --> 30:17.000 because just when you heard a podcast from Helsinki, 30:17.000 --> 30:22.000 which even though it was in English, there was a real cool Finnish accent going on, 30:22.000 --> 30:27.000 check out what I found on audio.weblogs.com. 30:27.000 --> 30:30.000 It's a Swedish podcast, let's say. 30:30.000 --> 30:32.000 It's a Swedish podcast, let's say. 30:32.000 --> 30:34.000 It's a Swedish podcast, let's say. 30:34.000 --> 30:37.000 It's a bit of a scene that is on the afternoon, 30:37.000 --> 30:39.000 I think it's February 8th. 30:39.000 --> 30:42.000 And I also think it's my favourite book. 30:42.000 --> 30:44.000 I love this. 30:44.000 --> 30:47.000 I can understand some of it. 30:47.000 --> 30:51.000 I really like it. 30:51.000 --> 30:52.000 I like it a little bit. 30:52.000 --> 30:55.000 How do you like it? 30:55.000 --> 30:57.000 I like it. 30:57.000 --> 30:59.000 I like it. 30:59.000 --> 31:01.000 I like it. 31:01.000 --> 31:04.000 It's a podcast. 31:04.000 --> 31:07.000 There's something weirdly sexual about this, listen. 31:07.000 --> 31:09.000 I like it a lot. 31:09.000 --> 31:11.000 I like it a lot. 31:11.000 --> 31:15.000 There's something great. 31:15.000 --> 31:18.000 You feel audio-blogger. 31:18.000 --> 31:21.000 Swedish podcast. 31:21.000 --> 31:23.000 Alright, moving right along. 31:23.000 --> 31:27.000 Pick something up from a ko-mo 1000. 31:27.000 --> 31:31.000 I think I mentioned before that we've had a hows of Amsterdam, 31:31.000 --> 31:33.000 I'm up for sale for about three years. 31:33.000 --> 31:35.000 But the market is so completely dead. 31:35.000 --> 31:37.000 It's like, they sure there people look in, 31:37.000 --> 31:39.000 but no one is buying anything. 31:39.000 --> 31:40.000 Certainly not in the upper regions of the market. 31:40.000 --> 31:47.000 it. And when we bought it, we bought it from a gay couple who would just recently renovated 31:47.000 --> 31:53.680 the entire thing. And one of the features that, although we didn't really necessarily 31:53.680 --> 31:59.200 need that or never dreamt about it, but one of the features was the toilets that were installed 31:59.200 --> 32:04.440 in this house. And you have to admit, this was a guy house. They even had in one bathroom 32:04.440 --> 32:08.640 that had a urinary automatic urinary just kind of walk in, do your business and walk 32:08.640 --> 32:16.120 out into flushes automatically. And the toilets, when you sit down on the actual toilet 32:16.120 --> 32:20.920 seat, the first thing that happens is there's a suction that kind of just very nice 32:20.920 --> 32:29.320 thing silently, suction's off any offensive odourers that might be floating around. Then 32:29.320 --> 32:33.640 I'm talking about our toilet. I just said gay men, a gay couple, yeah. 32:33.640 --> 32:38.640 They're gay couple, could be a good one. Oh no, those are lesbians. They're not gay. 32:38.640 --> 32:45.840 We won't enjoy the toilet too. Yeah, well, but lesbians don't like urinals. Okay, thanks 32:45.840 --> 32:51.320 on. I got a little crib sheet here, Patricia's wrote on it and says, hey, it was gay men. 32:51.320 --> 32:56.480 Make sure you mention it. Thanks on it. So anyway, so after you've sat down on the toilet 32:56.480 --> 33:02.640 and the suction, this kind of vacuum, I should record this. Next time in Amsterdam, I'll 33:02.640 --> 33:07.200 record all the sounds our toilet makes. So anyway, when you're done with your biz, whatever 33:07.200 --> 33:13.720 it is, then you hit a button on the side and then a little water spout comes out, kind 33:13.720 --> 33:19.080 of right underneath, you know, it's positioned pretty well actually. And then it squirts a nice 33:19.080 --> 33:26.560 stream of warm, welcoming, room-like feeling of water. And then when you let go of the 33:26.560 --> 33:31.760 button, then, then, of course, the dryer comes on. You get nice little warm kind of thing 33:31.760 --> 33:36.640 and y'all, you dry off and then when you're ready, you're done and you're done, right? 33:36.640 --> 33:43.200 So it's a full service toilet. And lo and behold, what do I hear on Como News this morning? 33:43.200 --> 33:47.760 Contractors have built homes with glorious woodwork, spectacular layouts and spared no 33:47.760 --> 33:51.920 expansion nearly every room. And when it came to the bathroom, just throwing one of those 33:51.920 --> 33:55.840 hundred dollar toilet jobs and everybody uses. I think that they're better ways to do 33:55.840 --> 34:00.480 just about everything. Thomas Crapers invention is morphing into a more comfortable and cleaner 34:00.480 --> 34:04.960 experience. Never not quite fit on a standard toilet seat. For a large person, there's nothing 34:04.960 --> 34:10.160 more comfortable. A ton Levi invented the big John toilet seat, making the job more comfortable 34:10.160 --> 34:15.200 for the larger person. It's got stainless steel can do metal, never trade. Along with bigger seats, 34:15.200 --> 34:21.200 there's now a lot of extras. He didn't toilet seats. We've got seats to do all sorts of things. 34:21.200 --> 34:25.200 Dan Sherman is my tour guide at a better bathroom kitchen in Belviewee. He says Japan has 34:25.200 --> 34:29.200 been using high-tech toilets for years. And that's not something that we've had traditionally. 34:29.200 --> 34:32.400 Let's go to the bathroom. Let's go to the bathroom. Introducing the new toe toe, 34:32.400 --> 34:38.080 we arrest. When you walk up to it, it opens automatically. Press this button on this infrared remote 34:38.080 --> 34:43.600 control. Whoa man, infrared remote control. Then we get to the cool part. You see, the new arrest 34:43.600 --> 34:48.720 has a built-in but day. It automatically adjusts to you and you control the temperature of the water. 34:48.720 --> 34:53.760 There's also a built-in dryer, a built-in deodorizer. Now that may be too fancy for some of you, 34:53.760 --> 34:57.680 and the price tag of five grand may be too spending. But you've got to admit, 34:57.680 --> 35:02.960 taking care of business. You'll never be the same again. Brian Carr, comma 1000 news. 35:04.800 --> 35:09.120 Oh, clearly I have an outdated model. I don't have a heated toilet seat. What's wrong with me? 35:09.760 --> 35:14.080 All right, so more cool music for you right now. This was uh, I got turned on to this by the 35:14.080 --> 35:21.200 indie feed podcast. The Beastie Boys have released a track in MP3 on the internet. Free of all rights, 35:21.200 --> 35:26.720 clear of any RIA, shit, whatever you can do whatever you want with it because they have a real message 35:27.520 --> 35:32.240 in this song. And that's why they said, please, play this anywhere you can. They didn't specifically 35:32.240 --> 35:37.920 say podcast, but I'm sure they meant it deep in their heart. Check out the Beasties in a world 35:37.920 --> 35:51.060 gone mad. 35:51.060 --> 38:36.520 [ Music ] 38:36.520 --> 39:06.480 Beasty Boys, in a world gone mad, you can download that from BeastyBoys.com and 39:06.480 --> 39:11.400 as I said, you can use it on any podcast and any manner, that you wish because they've 39:11.400 --> 39:17.560 released it completely free of all royalties, rights are immediately cleared, you can go ahead 39:17.560 --> 39:24.800 and play that on your podcast if I liked it. It's a typical Beasty. But the words definitely 39:24.800 --> 39:29.000 have to have some meaning to it. All right, 40 minutes, that's about my tax for the show, 39:29.000 --> 39:36.440 so we're going to leave it here for today's source code, 40 minutes to see is just about the 39:36.440 --> 39:42.280 time it takes for Dave Wyner to make his entire walk around the Seattle whatever his daily 39:42.280 --> 39:46.600 walk is, and he says 40 minutes about growth, so keep it a bad for now. Hey, at tomorrow 39:46.600 --> 39:51.480 by the way, Dave and I will be on the Gilmore gang, which will guess it'll be out over the 39:51.480 --> 39:59.600 weekend. So you can check that out, tip to IT Conversations.com. All right, comments 39:59.600 --> 40:04.600 out of Maccurry.com or leave comment on the weblogs.org.curry.com, and of course you can get the 40:04.600 --> 40:10.800 archives and latest, daily source code on dailySourceCode.com, and don't forget to be checking 40:10.800 --> 40:19.000 out iPodder.org, and audio.weblogs.com for all the freshest podcasts. 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