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I was due to the very source
code every day.

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On Dragon Casting with Adam
Curry.

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The power of the door is going
to go into it.

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Hey there, good afternoon,
everybody.

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I mean, a mobile ride.

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It's the source code for
Tuesday, October 26, 2004.

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I'm not a curry company to you
from Flanders, Belgium.

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It's just a little past noon
here, and we're podcasting from
Curry Castle.

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I've been working a little bit
on my audio levels today, of
course, to show that when

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I was yesterday, although it
recorded without a hitch, was
completely overmodulated.

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And what's nice about this
little yep device that I got is
that it didn't really crush

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it well, what it did is it just
limited the sound into one big
tire, some thing, the

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things too.

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But working on all that, I know
exactly what I need, I need a
little portable mixture.

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I had my eye on the long battery
operated, and I can do
everything all straight.

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So I have the audio level set
and so I can hear myself
perfectly and create the
podcast.

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I said, it wasn't intended.

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On the show today, lots of cool
bits found from around the
podcast universe.

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Some audio comments that came in
and of course, some pod tunes
for you, the non-R-A.

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Non-R-I-A music that I've been
scouring the internet for.

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I'm still trying to get recruit
people to send me their band
stuff, and I have received

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some stuff from people, but not
all of it is particularly
something I wanted to play on
the

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daily source code, meaning that
somebody just was like, it was
like real hobby stuff.

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And it wasn't what I wanted to
share with you.

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I'm looking for some cool tunes
and they're out there.

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I know they are, so we just got
to get more people who are
making music, interested in

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podcasting what we're doing.

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Actually, I guess I could talk
about this right now because I
received an email

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that in the most recent issue of
wired magazine is a CD that
comes packaged with

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it's full of R-I-A-A free music
released on the creative commons
license, which is cool.

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Now, I found a podcast that
actually has every single track
from that CD on it.

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So, I'm going to take that with
me today.

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I'm driving up to the
Netherlands for a couple of
meetings in the old cash dance
again,

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right?

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Gotta go to the airport.

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And we've already recorded that
trip, so I decided to do the
podcast early, but that's really
cool

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that wired is jumping into this
and think about that as
distribution.

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And have your tune on a CD
distributed by wired magazine.

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I don't know what their
circulation is, but it's got to
be pretty damn cool.

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And the source code, always
looking for cool stuff to play
for you.

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Yes, they have played Burn,
Goodie Stewart, Burn, Goodie
Stewart, Burn by Royes Zimmerman

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at Royes Zimmerman.com.

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He has a nice political tune
that he whipped up, and I wanted
to share that with you right
now.

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This one's titled 90%.

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[ Music ]

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to persuade 7 people in Ohio.

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[ Music ]

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There you go.

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90% brought to you by Royes
Zimmerman from Royes
Zimmerman.com.

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And as I'm also recruiting
people who have got some music
they want to promote on the
show,

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we just send me a link to a URL
where I can download it and some
information and some background.

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I've been scouring through
different websites.

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I really like GarageBand.com
because not only does it give
you a ranking of what users
think,

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and users of that site think is
really good in different
categories.

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The band has individual page and
tells you whether they have a
label or not,

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whether you can download it or
what the different licenses are,
if applicable.

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And there's lots of sites like
that all around.

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When I'm looking for, I guess,
now, a lot of work goes into the
source code.

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It takes me about an hour to
prep each day.

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And of course, as I'm reading
email, I'm always thinking,

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oh, this is something I could do
on the source code.

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I can use this.

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People are sending me audio
comments.

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Please keep those coming by the
way.

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I love them.

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But I'd really like to do
different types of music shows.

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Maybe there's a blue show of pod
tunes that we can put together,

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or maybe there's any different
genre that you want.

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But what I'm really looking for
in that case is a producer.

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I need someone who will
basically use me as the voice
for their show.

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I'll be happy to produce it and
put it all together.

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So if you give me the MP3s that
need to go into the show,

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whatever show it is, as long as
we see eye to eye on the type of
music,

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it'll be fun.

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So I need for whatever if to
weekly show,

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which would make the most sense,
I think.

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I need the MP3s and the
background information.

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And then I'll take care of all
the rest.

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And let's see if we can put
something cool together.

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That people would subscribe to a
new music show.

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But I need someone who's out
there continuously scouring
through everything

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and finding the stuff that's hot
that people are talking about.

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Really scouting some stuff.

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So if you're interested in that,
send them an email.

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Adam at curry.com.

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Maybe you've always wanted to do
a podcast.

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I can tell my microphone wires.

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My headphone wires hitting the
mic wire.

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Maybe you want to do your own
podcast,

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but maybe you don't like the way
your voice sounds.

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Maybe you just don't feel like
doing that kind of stuff.

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Let me be your podcast whore.

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So seriously, I'm looking for
someone to help me produce
something like that.

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I think that would be extremely
cool.

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An email here from Geek News
Central from Todd.

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He says you talked about the
Samsung yep.

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But did not let us know which
device she bought.

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Also which one you ordered.

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The one that has more options.

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He said he also lost a show last
week.

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He's paranoid as hell about
losing shows recorded on his
computer.

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And I understand.

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So maybe even if you're just
using it as a backup device,

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it's good.

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What I got Todd was the, I think
of the box here.

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It's the yep 55 V.

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It's really ugly actually.

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And it has, it's a brushed metal
look, right?

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Which of course is anything but
metal.

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And the highlights, the accents
are orange, if you can believe
it.

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So it's pretty lame looking.

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And that's what I'm using
currently.

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But the one that I, I've ordered
two of ordered.

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And I river 790, which is very
comparable to the Japanese thing
that I have on order,

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which is easy.

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It's digital Zen, X-E-N, digital
Zen audio player.

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And that thing is really
awesome.

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It's, let's see.

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It does MP3, MP1, 2.5,

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Windows Media, SF, AdVorbus.

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You know, it can, oh, what's
really cool about this is it
can,

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it can import a text file.

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And it'll do a text to speech.

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I haven't heard the quality of
that.

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But, and it really lets you set
the bit rates in, you know,
much,

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much more sophisticated fashion.

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It's got better IQs.

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And you can look at that on
www.easy-av.com.

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So Echo Zulu-Alpha Victor.com.

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Let's see.

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Let's take it out to an audio
comment that came in.

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So what's this about?

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I think this is about
geocaching.

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Adam, Mike from work for
bandwith.blogspot.com here.

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MP3 mailing you from London,
Ontario, Canada.

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My friend Sarah and I were
driving down the 401 highway in
southwestern Ontario,

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listening to your Friday,
October 15 show.

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Never do that with your
girlfriend, man.

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That's just not a good idea.

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And Sarah commented when you
were talking about geocaching
and podcasting,

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that she didn't really like the
idea of other people telling her
what she should

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like and dislike without having
some sort of credentials to give
an informed opinion.

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I think that she has a bit of a
point if someone has a crappy
experience in one restaurant

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or in one city or one town
shouldn't really shade the
experience for everybody else,

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especially if they have some
sort of graduate that are not
really letting on about it.

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And also think a good idea to
have a few unfiltered
non-corporate opinions on
something like that once in a
while.

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As we made a way further down
the highway towards Windsor,

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I think we're talking about
involved into a better idea of
doing something like this.

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Have things like the Zagat
restaurant reviews or the AAA
Auto Club,

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travel books, have some sort of
down-loadable MP3 content.

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Oh man, you just mentioned like
two things I'd love to see on
RSS.

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I think that's where this
comment is going.

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I was talking about geocaching
and you could have enclosures
attached to a geographical data,

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GPS data, basically.

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And if you're in a certain spot
or within a radius within a
certain spot,

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it would fire off an MP3.

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You could have a real walking
tour of stuff.

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But yeah, of course.

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I mean, anyone could set it up
so you could have the review of
good restaurants and bad
restaurants.

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And everything is subjective of
course.

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But I like what you're saying
here because you're talking
about some great information
flows

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that we just really need to have
that would be perfect for any
RSS.

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Just text RSS.

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And that could be podcasted to
you.

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When you subscribe and very
specific to the point of having
up-to-date current restaurant
reviews

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for San Diego or Ben Breakfast
outside of Boston,

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and be more up-to-date than the
books that they pass out acting
like a ratish eats or

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addendums or something.

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Why don't have local tours
boards get on side with us as
well.

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When you go to maybe a expedient
or travel-osity,

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have them have some sort of
content that they can propose to
you for the local hotels.

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For example, if you can imagine
subscribing to a last minute
feature where someone actually
describes,

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or maybe, and of course, last
people are talking about this as
we move beyond podcasting.

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The same infrastructural work
for video, absolutely.

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We don't quite have the platform
of MP3 players for video yet,

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but it's coming because in my
search for the perfect MP3
encoding device, external
recording device,

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you know, I came up against the
audio player and there's another
one from Phillips,

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and there's some good stuff out
there, man.

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They're playing divics, and it's
coming.

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It's happening, and it's
happened pretty damn fast,

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and this on the day that Apple
is releasing their new iPod,

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right, the color iPod, and U2 is
doing the whole shindig for
that,

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a lot of the marketing.

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I'm hoping that, you know, if
you have a color iPod,

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it might as well, well, shoot,
you know, it might as well do
video,

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or at least, quick time, right?

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Just a thought, guys, we'll find
out more as the day progresses.

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And here for you, this is cool.

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This came from OpenPodcast.org.

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It's actually its OpenPodcast
number 46.

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I love this.

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I hope it shows up every single
day.

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It's fabulous.

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The podcaster's tap dance.

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48% of those cool beliefs the
president will be chosen by the
courts,

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and the real winner will
ultimately be frozen out of the
job,

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some fear there will be a riot.

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Like in the catering ships,
because the losing party won't
fire.

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Ashley Simpson's first number
went fine on Saturday night,

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live but the second song started
singing before her lips arrived

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in the position to match the
words of the song.

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So she's long off stage and said
her bed played it wrong.

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57% of Americans have sex
outdoors,

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51% at sex on the first date.

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48% they don't get them, but
they're not whores.

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12% at sex and work.

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They couldn't wait.

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Halloween has been cancelled out
of Washington State School,

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because it takes time from their
studies and the scientists

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just so cool dirt the feelings
of real life,

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which is it makes them sad to
sing up some blood

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and pointy hats and noses
cackling at high pitches,

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stay tuned for late breaking pop
dates.

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That's the tap dance and
podcaster news.

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That's the podcasters tap dance
here on the daily source code,

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and just have a visitor coming
through,

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a real estate agent checking out
the value of the house.

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And you right now is in the
bars.

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A bed is writing down that it's
very extensive bar studio area
of the house.

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If you start up, I'm going to
show you the book.

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I'm going to show you the book.

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I'm going to show you the book.

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Let's see, we gotta go out now
to New Zealand

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where we have a comment about
metadata.

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Hey, I didn't miss a mark from
New Zealand here.

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I didn't actually think I'd
record a comment,

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but I'm just out driving
recording this on my P100.

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I don't know if I'll be able to
get this off the phone

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to send it to you, but whatever.

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Yeah, I just had this pretty
cool thought.

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I was just thinking about
trackbacks, web laws and
podcasting.

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And I just, I had the sight here
that we're losing metadata here.

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I was looking to the source code
earlier.

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And you're playing these
different excerpts from
different tasks

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that you've found that are
really interesting.

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And I sometimes, you know, paid
up.

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You're really cool to listen to
the full thing.

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But I don't know if any, I don't
know where these speeds are,

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or where these files are.

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I don't know whether I already
haven't downloaded or whatever.

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Now, thinking what would be cool
is this,

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you had additional enclosures
listed in your cast.

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So that there's a police car, I
don't know if he's,

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nope, he's not following me.

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Yeah, that you have additional
enclosures in your cast and your
feed.

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That's say, hey, I referenced
the source.

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So then I potter can also
download these additional files

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that you have referenced so that
I can listen to them in their
entirety.

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That would be really cool,

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because I wouldn't have to hunt
them down.

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And then I was thinking you can
extend whatever I pot,

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I pot blanks off or this is an
open medium,

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to actually listen to these
media.

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Yeah, so that'd be quite cool.

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So then you can just, yeah, that
would be very cool.

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And actually, I was thinking
about that mark,

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while I was taking a shower
earlier today.

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And then it hit me, it's so
simple.

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I'm already using radio user
land or actually combination of
radio user land

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and manila, but all based on the
frontier application.

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That's what I'm going to use to
create the perfect podcast
production system.

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And this is, I've been looking
for, you know,

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a next mission in podcasting.

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And of course, I'm loving it
making the podcast.

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I'm looking, you know, to do
more shows

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if people will help me produce
them.

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I'm really excited about that,
because, you know,

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it's a matter of just, you know,
getting through the show

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and putting the love and the
passion into it

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because of part of the music.

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But really, I've been wanting to
contribute more.

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And you know, I'm not a
programmer, right?

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We all got that down.

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I wonder if anyone out there is
still using my original iPod or
Apple script.

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I doubt it.

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But I've done a fair amount of
user land scripting in my time.

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Just ask Dave Winner, he's
saying,

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I've done shit with his software
that isn't technically possible,

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and it's perfectly suited for
radio production.

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I use it on my morning radio
show,

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but more as a content management
system.

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But now you're right.

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You know, we're talking about
things like metadata.

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And it should be as simple as,
you know,

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me dropping my sample clips into
a folder

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that's where it should pick up,
you know, feeds and details

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because we just strip out the
RSS.

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You know, all of this stuff can
be done.

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And well, for Christ's sake,

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the application is called radio.

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I mean, was this foresight or
what?

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I mean, it's perfect.

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It's going to be perfect.

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And I'm quite sure that, you
know, we can then start

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to connect our production
systems.

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You know, I can export stuff.

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And this can all flow into the
directory.

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And, oh, lions and tigers.

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Oh, you know, all that shit.

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Oh, my.

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It's going to be great.

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It really, really is.

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I'm looking forward to this.

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So, a great idea.

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I'll play it just the end of his
voice mail note

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because he gets so wrapped up in
his metadata.

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Listen to the source code
already here.

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It's quite long here.

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He gets lost.

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I said, hey, I want to listen to
that full thing.

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That would be so cool.

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I'm also thinking about
trackbacks.

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If I go to this original source
medium,

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and then I might get an
enclosure to say, hey,

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Adam Curry also left a comment
on this and made a commentary.

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So then I get those them.

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And you just get this full big
circular blow out of bandwidth.

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Yeah.

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I've got a, I've got a shoot.

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I lost.

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Kind of got lost in this car.

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I'm going to go to a fine room
going.

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But I'm, yeah, I'd love to hear
your thoughts on that.

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Oh, be great.

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Geocast that where you got lost
and put that audio comment in
there.

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Perfect.

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Great idea.

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And thank you for the
inspiration because.

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Excuse me.

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That's exactly where I'm going
to go.

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And it's going to be on the next
two months.

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And also frontier is open source
now.

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So we could, and it's cross
platform.

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So Mac and Windows.

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I use it every single day.

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I already use it for a lot of my
podcast production.

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So it makes so much sense to do
this.

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And then we can actually, you
know, like,

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bake applications that would,
you know,

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be open source and available for
people to,

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to build off on and use.

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And we can tie all this shit
together.

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And, yeah, it's great.

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It's great.

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In fact, it's, it's, it's
wonderful.

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It's, it's wonderful.

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And I have a song that, that
kind of,

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sags right into that from
grudgeband.com.

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And this is good.

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The history of hip hop.

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Drama, teek, and then flow.

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Did it?

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You're now too dead to American
movie classics.

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Today's feature presentation.

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Wonderful.

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Tell me.

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Can you tell me where hip hop is
like,

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back in the day?

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Well,

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it's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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It was wonderful.

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Listen.

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Hey, yo.

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Yeah.

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It's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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what it's like now.

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It's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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It's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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It's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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It's a whole lot different to
what it's like now.

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It's a whole lot different to
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Right away.

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Right away.

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John Machique and Ben Flows is
wonderful.

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What a wonderful world.

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Your daily source code.

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I'm wondering if I gave you the
wrong date check.

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It is October the 26th, 2004 to
the ad.

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I might have said 25th,

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but it's Tuesday, it is the
26th.

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And we're going out to a very
excited

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person who's new to podcasting
or podcast catching

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rather Ryan from Oklahoma City.

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Ryan from Oklahoma City.

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Why didn't Ryan?

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Good evening there Mr. Curry.

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This is Brian here in Colorado.

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Hold on a second.

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Did I say it was Brian?

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Let me listen to that.

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Okay, let's listen to that
again.

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Mr. Curry. This is Brian.

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Brian. Okay.

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Colorado.

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And why did I think it was?

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Oh, okay.

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I messed it up.

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This is Brian from Colorado.

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Ryan's next up.

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I'm sorry.

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Well, I just kind of happened to

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crap.

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The tables kind of creaking
here.

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Hey, crap, man. We all got the
same problems.

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Yeah.

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All right, so I'll just try to
hold still.

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Anyway, this is Brian here in
Colorado.

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And I just happened to pass this
whole

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podcasting thing here.

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Well, just in the past couple
days

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I was really impressed with it.

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Your stuff in particular isn't
really interesting.

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And just the level of
professionalism really

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boiling.

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Well, it sets the bar pretty
high for all the other folks
getting involved in this stuff.

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So anyway,

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well, you were noting in some of
the other folks at the Gilmore
gang.

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Everybody seems to really think
this stuff

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is really taking off like crazy

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and all the cultural
implications

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are well, it seemed to be pretty
far reaching.

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One thing I was particularly
impressed with

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and this lead into my question
for you is a lot of the NPR
stuff that kind of

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is starting to show up.

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Stuff a future tense.

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And also the morning stories
from WGBH.

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It's really type of stuff that I
typically listen to on the
radio.

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And so, well, I guess my
question for you is

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a lot of this stuff from NPR and
other sources

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has been showing up on
audible.com

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and also consequently because of
that

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in the iTunes music store.

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And of course, when you download
that,

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you can put that onto your iPod

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and I'm sure other devices as
well.

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And take it portably.

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And so a lot of shows like
Cartoc,

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this American life, and stuff
like that.

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People download pay for it

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and they get to enjoy it.

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Arguably, podcasting has an edge

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on that content and do the fact

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that you get to tie it in with
the RSS feeds,

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which is pretty cool.

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But then again, you know,

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audible.com gets it stuff on
iTunes.

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Music stores, of course it's
got, you know,

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it had started into that.

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Well, let me just stop there for
a second, Brian,

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because it's, you know, that's
exactly right.

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This is exactly what audible

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and Apple should be listening to

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because audible actually has
subscription programs,

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you know, like fresh air

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as you say a couple of NPR
programs.

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And some of them are free.

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I don't think you have to pay

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from most of the public radio
stuff.

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In fact, there was an interview
with John Stewart

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on there that I believe it was
free.

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But it doesn't matter, you know,

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why doesn't audible make
subscriptions

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available?

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They already know how to do the
money part,

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because they're happy to take my

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buck amount to whatever it is
that I pay for fresh air,

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maybe it's even a little bit
more,

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you pay upfront actually, I
think.

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So then just give me an RSS
feed,

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you know, that I can subscribe
to it.

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It's, you know,

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your DRM stuff won't let me copy
it anyway.

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So, you know, the,

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the file presumably is useless
for anyone else.

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And, you know, you can do all
kinds of authentication.

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Yes, that's exactly right.

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And so should iTunes music
store,

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just be doing exactly the same
thing.

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You know, let me subscribe to a
podcast

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and then, you know,

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shit, they own the whole
platform,

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make a button that I click
somewhere

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and it just orders it for me.

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You know, oh, yes, it makes so
much sense.

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Particularly with,

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I wouldn't be cool if today

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during the announcement of the
new iPod,

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someone mentioned podcasting,

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wouldn't that be, wouldn't it be
awesome?

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It could happen.

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It could happen.

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If it does, you'll,

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you'll know about it tomorrow.

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That's for sure.

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Okay, now let's go over to Ryan
from Oklahoma City

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who's excited about podcasting.

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Hey Adam,

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this is Ryan,

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a loyal source code listener

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from Oklahoma City

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in a recent transplant

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from Dave Weiner country

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out in Seattle.

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And, you know,

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when I left Seattle,

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one of the things I was looking
forward to

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most was escaping the traffic,

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which is absolutely horrendous
out there.

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And today,

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on my way home from work out
here,

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in Oklahoma,

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it was major,

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Seattle flashback time

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because we had traffic

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backed up from majors.

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I'm like,

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the ageu,

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but it, for miles,

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it took me an hour and a half to
get home.

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Something about it,

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check from Wisconsin

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with pink hair

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doing iPod poetry

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on the i35.

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I'm not sure what was going on
there.

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On Don and Drew.

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Anyway,

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I freaking love

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bumper to bumper today,

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man.

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I had my iPod packed

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to the gills with podcast,

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not a moment of my commute was
wasted.

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I got my daily source code

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fix.

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I got a few laughs in

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with Don and Drew.

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And I checked in with

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Como 1000 news from

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Back home in Seattle.

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And I loved every

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minute of it, man.

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So I would like to give

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a thank you to you

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for the source code

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and for all of your

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effort on podcasting.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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Bye.

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I always sound effects

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provided for free,

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my friend.

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And I'd like to give

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the listeners

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of the source code

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a big boy.

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A little iTunes tip

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that helps me manage my content.

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I have created a smart play list

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with two parameters.

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One genre contains

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podcast.

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And two play count

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equals zero.

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So that as my content

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is downloaded to the iPod,

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my smart play list

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appropriately enough

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titled new podcasts

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is populated.

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And as I listen to each show,

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it's kicked off

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the new podcasts list

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so that when I come back

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to my iPod later,

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and I'm scrolling and searching

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for what I'm going to look

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through next,

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I do not have to

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contend with shows

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that I've already listened to.

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And it just makes it a

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little bit easier

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to get through all of that

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awesome content.

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So out of my hope,

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I get a podcast

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coming to you

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from Oklahoma City going

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pretty soon.

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And a big thank you

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to you and for all

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of the folks out there

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that are podcasting.

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So take it easy

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and I hope to talk to you

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soon, man.

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All right.

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Another satisfied

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customer of our podcasting

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It's my point behind

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Please, to Adam at

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They were off because of a

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and I was listening

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to their the most recent show

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and the subject of David

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Bowie came up

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as they were talking

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about the freak show

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that they went to see.

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This is as an example for like
the perfect length show.

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All right enough talking about
that.

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Okay.

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So we saw a free show tonight at
Fred Bust.

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Um, a fat man got half naked, a
cute man jumped on glass in ugly
man, stapled money

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to his body, and a total fucking
loser ate a baby rat.

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That was nasty.

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That one guy also stuck a pin
right through his arm.

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Yeah.

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Any eight fire, but this does
leave the devil.

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And then your cute guy also did
the little deal with the ball.

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Oh man, that was fucking hot.

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What is it called?

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Um, David Bowie, Labyrinth shit.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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We're going to have the producer
look it up.

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Yeah, that looks really cool.

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He totally had it down.

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So you guys seen Labyrinth,
right?

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And it's not really David Bowie,
it's somebody else.

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Doing the glass balls.

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He's like, turn on bucks, Sarah.

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Man, when I saw that, I think I
was like eight, and I literally
was like, my private

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two weird.

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And I had a thing for David
Bowie ever since.

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And for some reason, I don't
know why I had this idea.

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Um, I thought David Bowie was a
vampire.

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It's a real?

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Yeah, like.

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So I had this whole
eight-year-old sexual fan, as
you know, you've got to wear a
weird

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wife, man.

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That he would come into my room
late at night and bite me on the
neck and then we could

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be vampires together.

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So I would sleep with my neck
exposed so that when David Bowie
came by to bite me, it

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was easier.

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It didn't really occur to me
that, you know.

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Had you ever seen the hunger?

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No.

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I still haven't.

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What?

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Yeah.

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I've seen the movie The Hunger.

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I haven't.

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What's the vampire?

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I've never seen it.

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I think we might own it on tape.

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No, I don't.

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We might.

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That's a good movie, the bow
house, in the beginning.

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The producer's giving me some
notes on the hunger.

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Um, yeah, so David Bowie, I'm
totally fuck you.

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You're my mom's gonna kick your
ass.

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I could shake her.

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My mom's gonna kick your ass.

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Maybe your boyfriend knows him.

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I could totally use Adam Craig
into the movie.

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Wait.

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So yeah, right, Benz was fun.

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We went.

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Okay, so.

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So, you know.

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Well, on the second.

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So, oops, sorry.

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Don has this David Bowie thing
ever since she was eight.

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Yes, you're totally doing, and
she wants to get in contact with
him.

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I've met David Bowie a couple
times, but source code
listeners, something that I
haven't

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spoken about before on the show,
is that a long time ago, well,
now, first I got to

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say that Patricia, my wife,
we've been married for 15 years.

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We've been together for 17
years.

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She's a little bit older than I
am.

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She's a 55, I'm 40, so she's 15
years older than I am.

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Although, she likes it to be
like 14 years, you know.

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So right now, it's the
difference actually 14 years,
because I just turned 40 in, you
know,

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anyway.

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It doesn't matter.

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It's, in fact, the older you
get, the less it matters, right?

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But she knows David Bowie,
intimately, I believe, from the
70s.

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So I'll tell you what we're
gonna do.

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See, 34 minutes on the clock, so
we could talk about this for at
least six minutes.

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Let's see if I can find your
Oscar Teller David Bowie story.

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Anja, it's Patricia airs in the
room.

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Hi.

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Yeah, I'm becoming a boy.

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She's the only one who's on the
floor, right?

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Yeah, I'm getting my balloons
for life, I'm getting my yay.

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Yeah, I'm out.

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I have new folks, Marka.

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Yeah.

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I'm coming to Casa.

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Yeah, I'm ready for you right
now.

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I'm taping as we speak.

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Oh, I'm coming to my studio.

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I'm coming to your studio.

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Yeah?

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Everyone's really excited now.

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Oh, they're listening.

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Yeah, they're waiting, because,
you know, they're waiting to
hear.

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Your David Bowie story.

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She's a boy.

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So this guy is appraising the
house for,

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because the other people need to
get a mortgage.

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Yeah.

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The fuck is that?

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Okay.

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Coming to the, coming to my,
into the source code studio.

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This is my, oh, come on, Jess.

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All right, everybody.

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Ever bought it?

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I'll sit with you here, because
I got this idea.

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I'll tell you what, I'm gonna
put the mic in the middle,

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so it ends out.

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So I can listen on the
headphones.

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Now you can sit there, if not,
sit over there.

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Yeah, hold on.

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There you go.

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And then we'll put the
headphones on, so I can listen.

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Okay, let me.

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Well, you have to interview me.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Hi there.

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Hey, you're really cute.

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I thought you were ready.

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Are you a lesbian?

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God.

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Okay, so.

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I'm every woman.

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Yes, okay.

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All right, so Patricia's my
wife.

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I already explained that you're
just a little bit older than I
am,

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so you have some more of some
better stories from early days.

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They think you are older if they
see us to get it.

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Yeah, of course.

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Yeah, explain.

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Yes.

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Yeah, because I look like shit,

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and you look very beautiful.

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I'm firm.

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Very firm.

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And I'm sad.

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My ass is sad.

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Yeah, but you're still in a
chair.

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We've your left up on your left.

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But do you love me?

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Yeah, I do love you.

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Okay.

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So when did you, let me just
jump right into the
conversation.

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When did you meet David Bowie?

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And what you do remember what
year it was?

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I think it was round about 1969.

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1969?

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I was five.

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I know.

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And you were, so you were like
1920 years old?

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I was 19 years old.

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And in these days, you had those
song contest,

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festivals.

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You had to go to.

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Well, what do you mean you had
to go to?

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Well, if you want to be famous,
and if you want to.

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You're really cute when you're
in a film store.

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If you want to be famous, or do
you want a real career,

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you had to do these things.

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So it was something else.

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It was something else.

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Like the Eurovision Song
Contest, like that.

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It's a sort of, yeah.

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But then it was held in lovely
places.

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Oh, you know, when they still
had budget.

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Yes, if they had budget,
beautiful, big orchestras, like
40

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piece orchestras.

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Oh, okay.

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So it was lovely.

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You know, you never knew what
happened.

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And so, you know, it was the
best thing to do.

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Okay.

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So I went to Malta.

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Malta.

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Malta.

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Lovely.

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Malta.

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Never been there.

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It was very beautiful, very sort
of a rabie, a rabie,

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a rabie and kind of, yeah, sort
of that.

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And in much people, they were
the same.

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Yeah, lots of English people.

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So probably that's why we all
had to go there.

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So you had a Germany Austria,
you were representing the
Netherlands.

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And I was representing the
Netherlands.

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And there he was.

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It was David Jones.

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David Jones.

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He wasn't even David Bowen?

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No, no.

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That doesn't count.

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That wasn't David.

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David Jones.

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David Jones.

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David Jones.

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And he was representing the...

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He was, he was more old.

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But he was for England, of
course.

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And he had these...

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What is this guy's name?

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Who did the Beatles?

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George Martin.

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Yes, he had George Martin.

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He was producing him.

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He was his, yeah, and his
musical director.

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Everybody has his head as his
own music.

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Oh, okay.

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It was way sheaker then then
they're doing now.

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This is the point.

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This is the point.

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I don't know.

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100 million people watching.

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It was beautiful.

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It was all over Europe on TV.

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It was, you know, it was very
important.

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Were you already selling albums
at this point?

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Yes.

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Every, what they did was every
country sent their biggest
talent, or it's a talent

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that they think, you know, it's
going to, that could be a very
big star.

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Okay.

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But you were already a star.

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I was in Holland already
starting my career and selling
records.

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So, okay.

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It sent me to Malta and...

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Did you like the drink?

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No.

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I have coffee.

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Okay.

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So, when I met David was, okay,
there were no many very hip
people there, and I was very

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hip.

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Right.

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It was all sick of shit.

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It was now most of them were a
little bit, yeah, a little bit
of a kind of...

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Well, but this was the end of
the 60s, so it was like, where
you were hippies?

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Crowners and I know.

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Were you smoking dope?

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Uh, yeah, I probably, you know,
coming from Holland.

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Don't remember.

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Sure.

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I don't remember.

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I never remember.

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Yes, we, I never remember.

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But so David probably picked me
out because he thought, well,
that, Jake looks cool.

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So I hang out with her.

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Look at him.

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Oh, you're blind me.

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Look at them.

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Who does?

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So he was telling me about his
new girlfriend that he has.

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She was an actor.

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And she looked a lot like
Barbara Stranger.

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Wait, Angie was that Angie?

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That was Angie.

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Oh, no.

40:18.760 --> 40:19.760
She looks a lot like Barbara
Stranger.

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She looks like Barbara Stranger.

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She looks like Barbara Stranger.

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She has her own.

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Yeah.

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She has her own.

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She has her own.

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She was a young, uh, Barbara
Stranger.

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And she was a great actress.

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He saw that.

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Yeah.

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He thought, uh, the character of
Broadway.

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Yeah.

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But he was probably in love.

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So he was involved.

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He was doing a boyfriend at this
time.

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I was, I guess, I, yeah, I had a
boyfriend.

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Yeah.

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But in these days, you look like
Barbara Stranger?

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No.

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Yeah.

40:45.560 --> 40:46.560
Down there.

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Oh, yeah.

40:47.560 --> 40:48.560
Yeah.

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But in these days, when you were
a hippie, it didn't matter.

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If you, if you just met nice
people, you hang out with them.

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There was no age, you know, you
could make love or, uh, yeah,

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and it was great.

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I told you so.

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I don't love them.

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And no, you, you, you hated when
I tell you that.

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Yeah.

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We had to wear like, you know,
truck tires.

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Yeah.

41:10.160 --> 41:10.960
I know.

41:10.960 --> 41:13.360
But in these days, now, you
could make love.

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And the only thing you had to do
is maybe protect yourself a
little bit.

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But, you know, for being, for
getting pregnant, actually.

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For getting pregnant.

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Nobody was thinking about
anything.

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So everybody was a hornier's
house.

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And, uh, so we hang out a little
bit.

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And we, you know, and we had
fun.

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But although I thought, I didn't
think he was sexy at all.

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He didn't look sexy at all.

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He was very strange.

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He was, he was, uh, skitt,
guitar was hanging around his
neck

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the whole day.

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And he was playing it.

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And, and, uh, everybody said,

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oh, can you please tell the guy
to stop?

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What was he playing?

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What was he playing?

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Oh, sort of things.

41:54.760 --> 41:56.760
Um, so we went to the, I
remember.

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We went to for a walk on the
beach.

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And, um, he was singing songs
for me,

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because he was making an
introduction.

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Probably.

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He was trying to make an
impression.

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And we was quite boring.

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And what song was he playing?

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He was playing, um, I remember.

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He said, do you like this song?

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Listen, I'm going to play.

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I thought I heard it already.

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But, okay.

42:19.760 --> 42:24.760
And he played round control to
Major Tom.

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And I, and I thought, oh, man.

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And it never ended.

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And, uh, he was based on it.

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Yeah.

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And he was in the record.

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And he said to me, don't you
think I sound like John Lennon?

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Oh, really?

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Yeah, he thought he sounded like
John Lennon.

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That's what it was.

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He was a big idol.

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Yeah.

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He wanted to sound like it.

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But for him, he wasn't a star
yet,

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but he was actually, I think
they sent it

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because I thought there was
something going on.

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But we don't know what.

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She did for color eyes.

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So, and he said, I just got a,
um, a record to deal.

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And, uh, that's probably going
to record this song.

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And I thought, man, I hated
already.

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It sounded horrible.

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And it, and you had to see him
because he was,

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he was, he was not wearing
swimming trunks or anything.

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Yeah.

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He was wearing diapers.

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Yeah.

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He had sort of, you know, he
wanted to be different.

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And that's, you know, he still
does.

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He was wearing diaper.

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He was so different from the
rest.

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He was wearing a sort of, you
know,

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what you see when, when Jesus,
you know,

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you see in the Bible.

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Like drawing cloth?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Really?

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So, sort of, it looked like a
diaper.

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Like a Roman thing or just,

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No, nothing on.

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He was very skinny.

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Very pale.

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He looked like a turtle.

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He liked it.

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He just liked it up.

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You know, he was so white.

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And, and, and brown.

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And brown.

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The whole day.

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And I thought, man.

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Stop.

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Stop.

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So, um, and he tried, and of
course he tried to kiss me.

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You know, these things.

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Wait, what was it?

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Did he have the orange hair?

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Was that the Ziggy hair?

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No.

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No.

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Just blonde hair.

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Nothing.

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Nothing.

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No.

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He was not attractive at all.

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Yeah.

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Now he always had.

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And it's teeth were like
horrible.

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Horrible.

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Horrible.

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One, two, three.

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You were even considering
kissing that mouth.

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Well, I kissed a little, but I
thought,

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Geez, no.

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And you could feel like the
jagged edges against your
tongue.

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Yeah, I guess so.

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I guess so.

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And then I remember his
girlfriend.

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I said, yeah, my American
girlfriend is coming over.

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And, like, she's very nice.

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And we could have.

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We could get together.

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We could get together.

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Yeah.

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And maybe have a trio.

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Oh, maybe she's so much.

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Yeah.

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And I thought, geez.

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And I saw her coming.

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Oh, no.

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Not Barbara Streisand.

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So they were trying and trying
with nothing happens.

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So, but years later, when I was
really, really famous.

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Well, that was that.

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It was the song festival.

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And he didn't win.

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I didn't win.

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I don't know.

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It's not like that.

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No, no.

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He was not.

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He tried.

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And he was actually.

45:07.760 --> 45:10.760
Trying the whole time that I was
there.

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Yeah.

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I was way too pretty for him.

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And he was a star.

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And he had a shitties.

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No, no, no.

45:16.760 --> 45:17.760
He was not a star.

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So what happened was after that.

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It was really a hit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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He came in.

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He thought, that's a song.

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That's a song.

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That's a fucking song.

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The whole day.

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Yeah.

45:29.760 --> 45:34.760
So a couple years later after he
had a couple of hits.

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Yeah.

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There was the.

45:36.760 --> 45:37.760
Is that the question?

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Yeah.

45:38.760 --> 45:39.760
When he had his first hit, he
think,

45:39.760 --> 45:40.760
Yeah.

45:40.760 --> 45:41.760
Should have done him.

45:41.760 --> 45:43.760
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

45:43.760 --> 45:47.760
But then then he had, after one
hit that red hair.

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And he started, came out and
everything.

45:49.760 --> 45:50.760
Yeah.

45:50.760 --> 45:55.760
And I had to do a big event that
is, that was every year.

45:55.760 --> 45:57.760
That's called Kangala Dudes.

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Kangala Dudes.

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Yeah.

45:59.760 --> 46:00.760
It's a great gala.

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No.

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It's an Amsterdam.

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And it was very famous.

46:03.760 --> 46:04.760
Very wide was there.

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Adobe Gray, the three degrees.

46:07.760 --> 46:10.760
So this was like 74, 75, maybe?

46:10.760 --> 46:11.760
Yeah, I see.

46:11.760 --> 46:12.760
So no, 74.

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74.

46:13.760 --> 46:15.760
And the grandgala Dudes.

46:15.760 --> 46:20.760
And they asked me and my sister
because we were also doing a lot
of backing vocals,

46:20.760 --> 46:25.760
because we were in the best
backing vocals you can get to
back up to back up some

46:25.760 --> 46:27.760
some ex from America.

46:27.760 --> 46:28.760
Yeah.

46:28.760 --> 46:29.760
You guys were cute.

46:29.760 --> 46:30.760
And we were very cute.

46:30.760 --> 46:33.760
And so we did it was a big
orchestra there.

46:33.760 --> 46:34.760
And very wide.

46:34.760 --> 46:37.760
We had to do the backing vocals
for very wide.

46:37.760 --> 46:41.760
His backing vocals, but they
couldn't sing that well.

46:41.760 --> 46:44.760
So we were behind the curtains
doing them.

46:44.760 --> 46:45.760
Yeah.

46:45.760 --> 46:46.760
We backed up.

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Yeah.

46:47.760 --> 46:49.760
Doing the backing up them.

46:49.760 --> 46:53.760
And we did some backing vocals
for the three degrees.

46:53.760 --> 46:55.760
Just to make it a little bit
fuller.

46:55.760 --> 46:58.760
Because when they, you know, on
the record sounds better.

46:58.760 --> 47:00.760
But that was like a real honor
because that was cool.

47:00.760 --> 47:01.760
We thought it was good cake.

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Yeah.

47:02.760 --> 47:03.760
And it was fun.

47:03.760 --> 47:04.760
It was very musical.

47:04.760 --> 47:05.760
Yeah.

47:05.760 --> 47:06.760
You know, you were on star.

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Yeah.

47:07.760 --> 47:08.760
Sure.

47:08.760 --> 47:09.760
And then I was standing.

47:09.760 --> 47:12.760
We had to do a couple of things
in front of the solo stage.

47:12.760 --> 47:15.760
So the audience could see us.

47:15.760 --> 47:21.760
And I knew I heard that David
Bowie came in.

47:21.760 --> 47:23.760
Because he was one of the guests
too.

47:23.760 --> 47:24.760
He was performing on the show.

47:24.760 --> 47:26.760
Now he was performing somewhere
in our Amsterdam.

47:26.760 --> 47:29.760
But he was a guest in the
audience.

47:30.760 --> 47:31.760
And what is wife?

47:31.760 --> 47:32.760
You sure you don't want to drink
a water?

47:32.760 --> 47:33.760
No, no, no, no.

47:33.760 --> 47:35.760
You want to take a sip of
coffee?

47:35.760 --> 47:36.760
Yeah, I'm so cute.

47:36.760 --> 47:37.760
You never told it.

47:37.760 --> 47:38.760
Oh, you're dribbling.

47:38.760 --> 47:40.760
You're so excited about David.

47:40.760 --> 47:41.760
Yeah.

47:41.760 --> 47:42.760
Yeah.

47:42.760 --> 47:43.760
Yeah.

47:43.760 --> 47:44.760
Now.

47:44.760 --> 47:45.760
So I was working.

47:45.760 --> 47:49.760
And he probably saw me standing
there and said to Angie, isn't
that?

47:49.760 --> 47:51.760
There's a picture that we met a
couple of years ago.

47:51.760 --> 47:52.760
We met a couple of years ago.

47:52.760 --> 47:53.760
Yeah.

47:53.760 --> 47:56.760
She thinks he's lesbian, but
she's stuck out for me.

47:56.760 --> 47:57.760
Let's go.

47:57.760 --> 47:58.760
Let's go snobber.

47:59.760 --> 48:03.760
So afterwards there was a drink,
of course, with all the stars.

48:03.760 --> 48:05.760
And this was still the seven.

48:05.760 --> 48:07.760
And I was walking around there.

48:07.760 --> 48:10.760
And I bumped into him and he
said,

48:10.760 --> 48:12.760
I thought he was you.

48:12.760 --> 48:13.760
How are you?

48:13.760 --> 48:15.760
Oh, it's so good to see you.

48:15.760 --> 48:16.760
And you look so pretty.

48:16.760 --> 48:17.760
And even pretty.

48:17.760 --> 48:18.760
I don't know.

48:18.760 --> 48:19.760
I didn't fix it.

48:19.760 --> 48:20.760
Very hot.

48:20.760 --> 48:21.760
Very hot.

48:21.760 --> 48:22.760
Because he was, you know, he was
sick.

48:22.760 --> 48:23.760
He started with his suit.

48:23.760 --> 48:24.760
So he had the orange hair.

48:24.760 --> 48:25.760
It was here.

48:25.760 --> 48:27.760
And he had this little thing
over his suit.

48:28.760 --> 48:29.760
He had that out of the party.

48:29.760 --> 48:30.760
Yes.

48:30.760 --> 48:31.760
No way.

48:31.760 --> 48:32.760
Because you know why?

48:32.760 --> 48:33.760
Because he told me later.

48:33.760 --> 48:35.760
Because he had a hat.

48:35.760 --> 48:39.760
No one of his, you know, one of
his eyes had a cataract.

48:39.760 --> 48:40.760
Yeah, something.

48:40.760 --> 48:41.760
Something.

48:41.760 --> 48:42.760
Because one of the, you know,

48:42.760 --> 48:43.760
The different color.

48:43.760 --> 48:44.760
The different color.

48:44.760 --> 48:45.760
There was something going on.

48:45.760 --> 48:46.760
Cool.

48:46.760 --> 48:47.760
So that wasn't just a section.

48:47.760 --> 48:48.760
So it was not even.

48:48.760 --> 48:49.760
But it looked.

48:49.760 --> 48:50.760
Of course.

48:50.760 --> 48:51.760
Yeah.

48:51.760 --> 48:52.760
And the teeth were still fucked
up.

48:52.760 --> 48:53.760
Yeah.

48:53.760 --> 48:54.760
These were still crooked.

48:54.760 --> 48:55.760
Not anymore.

48:55.760 --> 48:56.760
I've seen.

48:56.760 --> 48:57.760
Yeah.

48:57.760 --> 48:58.760
But it was wonderful.

48:58.760 --> 48:59.760
Yeah.

48:59.760 --> 49:00.760
Yeah.

49:00.760 --> 49:01.760
That's why it's.

49:01.760 --> 49:02.760
I think she demanded to do.

49:02.760 --> 49:03.760
Yeah.

49:03.760 --> 49:04.760
He said do.

49:04.760 --> 49:05.760
I'm not going to run.

49:05.760 --> 49:06.760
I have a baby.

49:06.760 --> 49:07.760
I think this is the time.

49:07.760 --> 49:08.760
Fix your teeth.

49:08.760 --> 49:09.760
So.

49:09.760 --> 49:10.760
Um.

49:10.760 --> 49:11.760
Uh.

49:11.760 --> 49:12.760
Someone said, we met each other.

49:12.760 --> 49:13.760
And he said, you would,

49:13.760 --> 49:15.760
Would you like to come to the
hotel and have a drink with me?

49:15.760 --> 49:16.760
So we had downstairs.

49:16.760 --> 49:18.760
We had a drink in the lobby.

49:18.760 --> 49:19.760
And Angie was there too.

49:19.760 --> 49:20.760
But in the meanwhile,

49:20.760 --> 49:23.760
I heard and I've seen a little
bit of it.

49:23.760 --> 49:26.760
And he had quite a fight with
the Angie downstairs.

49:26.760 --> 49:27.760
She was very drunk.

49:27.760 --> 49:29.760
As she said, I'm so pissed.

49:29.760 --> 49:30.760
Right.

49:30.760 --> 49:31.760
I'm so pissed.

49:31.760 --> 49:32.760
And yeah.

49:32.760 --> 49:33.760
Yeah.

49:33.760 --> 49:34.760
Yeah.

49:34.760 --> 49:35.760
Yeah.

49:35.760 --> 49:36.760
I'm pissed.

49:36.760 --> 49:37.760
Now pissed.

49:37.760 --> 49:39.760
And she behaved horribly.

49:39.760 --> 49:41.760
Because she's, she's a rough
lady.

49:41.760 --> 49:42.760
Yeah.

49:42.760 --> 49:44.760
And he was very ashamed of her.

49:44.760 --> 49:46.760
And that's why he wants to go
back to the hotel.

49:46.760 --> 49:49.760
And he said, would you like to
come with me in the limo?

49:49.760 --> 49:51.760
And I said, well, actually have
to go home.

49:51.760 --> 49:53.760
I haven't seen you for a long
time.

49:53.760 --> 49:54.760
So that might be nice.

49:54.760 --> 49:56.760
So I went for a drink.

49:56.760 --> 49:58.760
Oh, and you didn't think of that
moment?

49:58.760 --> 49:59.760
No, no, no, no.

49:59.760 --> 50:00.760
No, no, no.

50:00.760 --> 50:01.760
I didn't know.

50:01.760 --> 50:03.760
I mean, he had to slay thee with
him.

50:03.760 --> 50:04.760
Oh, no.

50:04.760 --> 50:05.760
I'm a decent girl.

50:05.760 --> 50:06.760
Of course not.

50:06.760 --> 50:10.760
So we went upstairs and had a
lovely talk about it.

50:10.760 --> 50:11.760
It is room.

50:11.760 --> 50:12.760
Yeah.

50:12.760 --> 50:14.760
It was one of, it was in the
big,

50:14.760 --> 50:17.760
The biggest sweets in the
Amstahl hotel.

50:17.760 --> 50:18.760
And we had a drink.

50:18.760 --> 50:20.760
And we were talking about the
early days.

50:20.760 --> 50:22.760
Because what happened in the
meanwhile?

50:22.760 --> 50:23.760
Yeah.

50:23.760 --> 50:25.760
And I was telling him that
fucking song can't believe it.

50:25.760 --> 50:26.760
Oh, yeah.

50:26.760 --> 50:27.760
I told him that.

50:27.760 --> 50:28.760
I said, can't believe it.

50:28.760 --> 50:29.760
Really?

50:29.760 --> 50:30.760
You were right.

50:30.760 --> 50:32.760
It was it.

50:32.760 --> 50:34.760
And.

50:34.760 --> 50:35.760
Oh.

50:35.760 --> 50:37.760
And did he say, yeah, told you
so?

50:37.760 --> 50:38.760
And he was really sweet.

50:38.760 --> 50:39.760
And he was smoking.

50:39.760 --> 50:40.760
Really his head off.

50:40.760 --> 50:41.760
You know, cigarettes.

50:41.760 --> 50:42.760
A joint.

50:42.760 --> 50:43.760
Of course.

50:43.760 --> 50:44.760
He was an Amsterdam.

50:44.760 --> 50:45.760
Yeah.

50:45.760 --> 50:48.760
And you just get a high just for
being in the room.

50:48.760 --> 50:49.760
A little bit with him.

50:49.760 --> 50:50.760
Oh, no, no, no.

50:50.760 --> 50:51.760
I smoked.

50:51.760 --> 50:53.760
And he, of course, he loved
that.

50:53.760 --> 50:55.760
So it was just, it was very
romantic.

50:55.760 --> 50:59.760
And he started to touch my hair.

50:59.760 --> 51:01.760
My, my shoulders.

51:01.760 --> 51:03.760
My, you know, my whole body.

51:03.760 --> 51:04.760
And I thought, boy.

51:04.760 --> 51:05.760
Okay.

51:05.760 --> 51:06.760
His fame is now.

51:06.760 --> 51:07.760
Yeah.

51:07.760 --> 51:08.760
And that was nice.

51:08.760 --> 51:10.760
I know he's much nice.

51:10.760 --> 51:13.760
I thought he is David Bowie.

51:13.760 --> 51:15.760
Of course, you know.

51:15.760 --> 51:17.760
And I said, if I tell my sister,

51:17.760 --> 51:18.760
I walked away.

51:18.760 --> 51:19.760
And I didn't do that.

51:19.760 --> 51:20.760
I said, are you crazy?

51:20.760 --> 51:21.760
Yeah.

51:21.760 --> 51:22.760
I can't.

51:22.760 --> 51:23.760
So I went along.

51:23.760 --> 51:25.760
And he's a great lover.

51:25.760 --> 51:26.760
I have to say.

51:26.760 --> 51:27.760
Anna.

51:27.760 --> 51:28.760
Really?

51:28.760 --> 51:29.760
Yeah.

51:29.760 --> 51:30.760
Don't want to hear that.

51:30.760 --> 51:31.760
But he's a great lover.

51:31.760 --> 51:34.760
He has a lot of, so full of the
girls.

51:34.760 --> 51:35.760
That.

51:35.760 --> 51:36.760
And done.

51:36.760 --> 51:37.760
And done.

51:37.760 --> 51:38.760
Done.

51:38.760 --> 51:39.760
This.

51:39.760 --> 51:40.760
Are you listening?

51:40.760 --> 51:41.760
He is a great lover.

51:41.760 --> 51:42.760
He's unbelievable.

51:42.760 --> 51:43.760
Patience.

51:43.760 --> 51:46.760
And he wants to give you
everything you want.

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He'll think that's not a good
one of those when he did.

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He led you from your head and
that's him to your head.

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Tell me if you're head.

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He's not afraid.

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Not at all.

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His penis size is medium.

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Not numbered that day.

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Not yet Nad, thank you for
answering that question.

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So my secret day thereEnse
means.

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Oh, that's what he's going.

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That's all he hopes to do.

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So I, they, he's calling him.

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Right.

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He's calling.

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That's right.

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Hi, David.

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I'm sorry.

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We're going to play his routine
Dolph Fries Judge.

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I have to say nothing.

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Something else matters.

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That's inspirational. Very nice,
nicely shaped, but nothing is he
circumstance? No. No. I remember
that.

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Yeah. No, no, no. Just a normal
English Dick. Dicky.

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But it was nice. He went, oh,
and he went on and went for a
second time.

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There he is calling again. He
was going to say it was actually
three times.

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Really? Yeah, I remember that.
And after that, I brush my teeth
with his toothbrush, because I
always liked brush my teeth
afterwards.

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And then, you know, when I know
that you hate to hear this, I
know that.

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No, because knowing that my
penis is bigger makes a world a
difference.

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Oh, okay. No. This is okay. This
is valid.

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We didn't know each other then.
Yeah. Yeah. I want to do what
I'm going to do.

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And after, you know, when I was
in the bathroom, I heard Angie
coming in, and she was screaming
at him.

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Did you run the bathroom brush?
I was in the bathroom and I
thought she's going to get out
of here.

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This woman is going to kill me.
And I heard him.

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Yeah, I hear him shouting to
her, and you're just such a pig,
and you cannot behave.

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And this and that, and I can do
whatever I want to. And you
know, you do that too, and blah,
blah, blah.

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So they had a big fight, and I
slipped out.

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It's not that bad.

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It's not bad.

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He never saw him again.

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Yeah. And oh, yeah. We saw him.

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We saw him on a mantra.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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But that was with Angie.

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No, no, no, no. He was with
Kiki, go, go, go, go.

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He was really weird. He was
weird about that.

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He was doing, he was strange
about it.

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Because he, this wife, his wife,
then.

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Yeah.

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Whatever her name was.

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Yeah.

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Before.

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What is her, his wife now?

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Eman.

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Eman.

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Before Eman, he had a very
jealous, jealous wife.

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I remember that.

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And I read that a couple of
times in the magazines.

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So he didn't want to recognize,
but he was waving at me.

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And then we saw him sort of
party from Joan Jett, remember?

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Yeah.

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He was there too.

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Yeah.

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And he was waving his smile
again.

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But he was still.

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Yeah.

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But he was so jealous.

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He's not a very social person.

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Yeah.

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Well, he was fucking diapers on
the beach.

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What do you expect?

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Yeah.

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Fundus is wonderful.

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So that was my story with David
Bowie.

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I really appreciate that.

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And he, and oh, and I'm in his
book.

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Because he has a little tiny
book.

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He had a little black book.

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Yeah.

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So there's a little pocket book.

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When he's booty call.

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Yeah.

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Sort of what he tells about his
life.

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His life.

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All the chicks he had.

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Yeah.

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And there's pictures in it.

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Really.

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Yeah.

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And there's one picture where
I'm really, I'm in the picture.

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But we've been taking, you know,
have a proof it.

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I've been taking it.

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You've been taking it.

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There's actually two questions.

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Yeah.

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You think David Bowie's a
vampire?

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Dawn wanted to know.

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Dawn used to dream that David
Bowie was a vampire.

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And would come at night and bite
her and they'd be vampires.

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Yeah.

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She wish.

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Yeah.

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Now he's a sweet guy.

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He's a sweet guy that he's a
little bit insecure in a couple
of things.

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Yeah.

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He's not very.

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He doesn't talk to you.

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He doesn't talk to you.

55:34.760 --> 55:35.760
Yeah.

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Isn't that strange?

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At the same time.

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Almost the same time.

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Yeah.

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But I don't have a bypass.

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They have same.

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They couldn't help me.

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But that's strange.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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You think he can still get it up
with his bypass?

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Well, it depends on.

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I have to say, now you're not
kidding because we know that
from my dad.

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So Dawn, you know.

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So you don't have to worry about
that.

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Yeah.

55:58.760 --> 55:59.760
He may appeal to you.

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Because of the medicine.

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If he has to take a lot of
medicine, that could be a
problem.

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Yeah.

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But still.

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He's very good.

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He's quite a talent.

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Oh, he's very talented.

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He's very talented.

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He's talented.

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He's talented.

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I have to say.

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I have to say he's a very nice,
sweet person.

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Normally, I would play space.

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I'd already hear.

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But, you know, that's legal.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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I would not love to do that.

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That sucks.

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Why?

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Because, you know, I can get
sued for playing.

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For playing music that when I'd
love to play.

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We have to play stuff that can't
play our memories.

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That's illegal.

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That's actually the man.

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Yeah.

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It's the law.

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Oh.

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Doesn't that suck?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Let's play space out of it.

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Thanks.

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That was a great story.

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Love you.

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Love you too.

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Thank you.

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[ Music ]

01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.760
David Bowie was space oddity
from the end of the sixties.

01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:32.260
I ran a lot longer than intended
on today's show.

01:00:32.260 --> 01:00:38.760
We're an exactly an hour, but of
course, when you get the sit
down with Patricia for about 30
minutes

01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:41.260
and talk about David Bowie and
the size of his penis.

01:00:41.260 --> 01:00:44.760
Hey, damn man, you just can't
get that on regular radio.

01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:46.260
You know what I'm saying, Bowie!

01:00:49.260 --> 01:00:51.260
And that'll do it for the source
code for today.

01:00:51.260 --> 01:00:53.260
Tuesday, October 26, 2004.

01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:55.260
Thank you very much for tuning
in.

01:00:55.260 --> 01:00:58.760
Hopefully you stay all the way
to the end, because I think that
was well worth it.

01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.760
And this is one for the
archives, eh?

01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:01.760
So that's it.

01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:05.760
I'm off to the Netherlands for
some meetings, and of course,
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