WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.500 I'm casting all's life at a curry. 00:07.000 --> 00:10.000 Just power all the glory of your life. 00:10.000 --> 00:12.000 How do everybody? Good? 00:12.000 --> 00:20.000 Afternoon, good evening, or almost good morning is just a little bit before midnight here on Wednesday, October 27th, 2004, 00:20.000 --> 00:25.000 coming to you from the bunker in Sin City, home of the coffee shop, 00:25.000 --> 00:28.000 and stood down the nettle that's the source curve. 00:28.000 --> 00:31.000 Power all the glory of your life. 00:31.000 --> 00:33.000 Oh boy, one of those days, 00:33.000 --> 00:37.000 didn't get to my email until about 10-15 years ago. 00:37.000 --> 00:43.000 And it's full of all kinds of particular due to an interview that I did today, 00:43.000 --> 00:45.000 on WNYC. 00:45.000 --> 00:48.000 Without a doubt, New York's premiere, 00:48.000 --> 00:50.000 and I think only public witness to it, 00:50.000 --> 00:53.000 not be only one in the Tri-State area, mind you. 00:53.000 --> 00:55.000 But yeah, it was really, really good. 00:55.000 --> 00:56.000 So I'm going to play some of that. 00:56.000 --> 01:00.000 We're going to review the launch of Apple's new iPods. 01:00.000 --> 01:05.000 And of course there is some audio comments and some RIA for you. 01:05.000 --> 01:10.000 Power all the glory of your life. 01:10.000 --> 01:15.000 And I think I talked about this the other day that WNYC 01:15.000 --> 01:22.000 released a CD with what I call pod tunes or a music that is free to be used and copied as you wish. 01:23.000 --> 01:28.000 Some well-known names on there, a Beastie Boys, a David Bern by now, of course, 01:28.000 --> 01:30.000 this thing is circulating around the net. 01:30.000 --> 01:35.000 And if you're hey, if WNYC is going to quit so much push behind these bands, 01:35.000 --> 01:38.000 they've chosen and they've gone through the trouble of doing this, 01:38.000 --> 01:41.000 then we might as well participate in everywhere we can. 01:41.000 --> 01:45.000 So on the podcast today, a couple of songs that come off of that CD, 01:45.000 --> 01:46.000 this is one big holiday. 01:46.000 --> 01:48.000 My morning on the source code. 01:51.250 --> 06:48.750 [ Music ] 06:51.000 --> 06:53.000 One big holiday, my morning 06:53.000 --> 06:58.000 From the wire to open source music CD 06:58.000 --> 07:00.000 It has a name 07:00.000 --> 07:01.000 Oh, I was second 07:01.000 --> 07:04.000 That CD had a name, didn't it? 07:04.000 --> 07:06.000 I couldn't say that 07:06.000 --> 07:08.000 Hold on, let me see 07:08.000 --> 07:10.000 I'll look at iTunes right now 07:10.000 --> 07:13.000 The wire CD volume one, alright 07:14.000 --> 07:16.000 I could have come up with one myself 07:16.000 --> 07:18.000 This is the source code 07:18.000 --> 07:20.000 It's now officially Thursday 07:20.000 --> 07:22.000 But we're still going to say this is Wednesday 07:22.000 --> 07:25.000 October 27, 2004 07:25.000 --> 07:29.000 It's been on a bit of an emotional rollercoaster the past few days 07:29.000 --> 07:32.000 Get really excited about what's happening with everything 07:32.000 --> 07:34.000 All things podcasting 07:34.000 --> 07:37.000 And then my mom's still still going through some tests 07:37.000 --> 07:41.000 I think I might have some reasonably good news to report by tomorrow 07:41.000 --> 07:43.000 I'm getting up at six and we're going to the hospital 07:43.000 --> 07:45.000 We have a 930 appointment 07:45.000 --> 07:47.000 One final test that has to be done 07:47.000 --> 07:50.000 Just to make sure that we can indeed go the surgery route 07:50.000 --> 07:52.000 Which would be fabulous 07:52.000 --> 07:57.000 And that is relative to what fabulous really is of course 07:57.000 --> 08:00.000 So, so it's been kind of up and down 08:00.000 --> 08:02.000 But today 08:02.000 --> 08:06.000 Now, I think this was set up through DocSurles 08:06.000 --> 08:08.000 He got an email 08:08.000 --> 08:12.000 From someone I believe it was a producer from WNYC 08:12.000 --> 08:14.000 Public Radio in New York 08:14.000 --> 08:16.000 Asking him to come on the show 08:16.000 --> 08:18.000 On the Brian Lera Show 08:18.000 --> 08:20.000 Which is a morning radio show in New York 08:20.000 --> 08:23.000 Which apparently a lot of people listen to 08:23.000 --> 08:26.000 And talk about podcasting 08:26.000 --> 08:28.000 And very graciously 08:28.000 --> 08:32.000 Doc said, well, you should talk to Dave and Adam 08:32.000 --> 08:36.000 And I got to be honest that I didn't really follow all the email threads 08:36.000 --> 08:39.000 The email is fucking exploding out of control 08:39.000 --> 08:42.000 I can't wait to get on a 14 hour plane ride to San Francisco 08:42.000 --> 08:44.000 Just to sort out my email 08:44.000 --> 08:46.000 What I'm basically doing now is I'm trying to get all the directory stuff 08:46.000 --> 08:48.000 For new entries to the directory and get those in 08:48.000 --> 08:50.000 That has priority you know besides 08:50.000 --> 08:53.000 Whatever shit comes in from tax attorneys and lawyers 08:53.000 --> 08:55.000 That just I'm forced to look at 08:55.000 --> 08:57.000 With fucking office attachments 08:57.000 --> 08:59.000 Excel sheets and word documents I hate him 08:59.000 --> 09:05.000 So, this was really amazing to be on the show 09:05.000 --> 09:09.000 I think I was on for almost like 20 minutes 09:09.000 --> 09:12.000 And there were playing bits from podcast 09:12.000 --> 09:15.000 From the source code, the Don and Drew show 09:15.000 --> 09:17.000 And just to give an impression 09:17.000 --> 09:19.000 And really went into detail and they really done their work 09:19.000 --> 09:23.000 And this producer had indeed done really done his job 09:23.000 --> 09:25.000 It was funny because 09:25.000 --> 09:27.000 And this had never happened before 09:27.000 --> 09:30.000 I've been lots of radio interviews in the states 09:30.000 --> 09:31.000 All over the world 09:32.000 --> 09:36.000 And for the first time I was given like the legal disclaimer on the phone 09:36.000 --> 09:38.000 And I have to actually ask questions 09:38.000 --> 09:44.000 Do you agree to have your voice with broadcast on radio and AM and whatever 09:44.000 --> 09:47.000 Do you agree that this can be archived on the internet 09:47.000 --> 09:49.000 For webcast and on CDs for distribution 09:49.000 --> 09:53.000 Yeah, so you agree it's like signing your waiver 09:53.000 --> 09:56.000 And it was great and he 09:56.000 --> 10:00.000 Brian there opened up the phones for calls 10:00.000 --> 10:02.000 This is a New York-based radio station 10:02.000 --> 10:05.000 And it was as if we had set it up 10:05.000 --> 10:07.000 But we hadn't 10:07.000 --> 10:10.000 And in came to me a very familiar voice 10:10.000 --> 10:13.000 This is 93.9 and AMA 20 WNYC 10:13.000 --> 10:15.000 We're speaking with Adam Curry 10:15.000 --> 10:18.000 We developed a software that allows so-called podcasting 10:18.000 --> 10:23.000 Which is broadcasting or just moving audio around 10:23.000 --> 10:27.000 via MP3 on the web or to your iPod 10:28.000 --> 10:31.000 And here is Brian in Durham, North Carolina 10:31.000 --> 10:33.000 Who says he's a podcast 10:33.000 --> 10:35.000 Brian, you want to go to your NYC? 10:35.000 --> 10:36.000 Hi, how are you? 10:36.000 --> 10:37.000 Okay. 10:37.000 --> 10:39.000 For my podcast is audioactivism.org 10:39.000 --> 10:42.000 Hey Adam, I really appreciate all you've been doing 10:42.000 --> 10:45.000 It's really a great outlet 10:45.000 --> 10:47.000 To a lot of creative people 10:47.000 --> 10:49.000 All right. 10:49.000 --> 10:50.000 And what do you do? 10:50.000 --> 10:51.000 Go ahead and plug away 10:51.000 --> 10:53.000 Sure, my podcast 10:54.000 --> 10:57.000 So I was going to comment on that 10:57.000 --> 10:59.000 I was like I was so amazed 10:59.000 --> 11:02.000 Here's Brian from audioactivism.org 11:02.000 --> 11:05.000 I just been listening to his podcast 11:05.000 --> 11:07.000 The night before my way back 11:07.000 --> 11:09.000 From Amsterdam to Belgium 11:09.000 --> 11:11.000 And it was like that's when he said 11:11.000 --> 11:13.000 Hey, it's really great 11:13.000 --> 11:15.000 And for a split second 11:15.000 --> 11:16.000 For a split second 11:16.000 --> 11:18.000 And you can actually I'm going to read 11:18.000 --> 11:19.000 I'm going to wind this 11:19.000 --> 11:20.000 I'm going to rewind this 11:20.000 --> 11:23.000 I'm going to say what I was thinking of saying 11:23.000 --> 11:25.000 At the moment, Brian came in 11:25.000 --> 11:26.000 Okay, so you'll get the full effect 11:26.000 --> 11:28.000 I didn't want to do it because it's like public radio 11:28.000 --> 11:30.000 It was a really big deal to do this in New York 11:30.000 --> 11:31.000 But I'm going to kind of give you that effect 11:31.000 --> 11:33.000 Hey, it's just fine 11:33.000 --> 11:35.000 Okay, we go to this part 11:35.000 --> 11:37.000 All right, and what do you do? 11:37.000 --> 11:39.000 All right, okay 11:39.000 --> 11:41.000 All right, and what do you do? 11:41.000 --> 11:43.000 All right, and what? 11:43.000 --> 11:44.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 11:44.000 --> 11:47.000 Basically, you're saying this is so great 11:47.000 --> 11:48.000 Thank you Adam for this 11:48.000 --> 11:50.000 I really appreciate all you've been doing 11:50.000 --> 11:53.000 It's really a good, great outlet 11:53.000 --> 11:55.000 To a lot of creative people 11:55.000 --> 11:56.000 Boy, boy, boy, boy, boy 11:56.000 --> 11:58.000 All right, and what do you do? 11:58.000 --> 11:59.000 Got it? 11:59.000 --> 12:02.000 Sure, my podcast is basically about 12:02.000 --> 12:03.000 called three or else 12:03.000 --> 12:05.000 And a uniform resource locator 12:05.000 --> 12:07.000 Basically, like web address 12:07.000 --> 12:10.000 That has something to do with activism online 12:10.000 --> 12:13.000 It's another thing that blogs do really well 12:13.000 --> 12:15.000 It's a type of social software that allows people to connect 12:15.000 --> 12:17.000 And obviously during this sub-political season 12:17.000 --> 12:20.000 A lot of people have been using it for different types of activism 12:20.000 --> 12:22.000 But it's not just about president 12:22.000 --> 12:24.000 It takes other things as well 12:24.000 --> 12:26.000 But you can see the show so much political 12:26.000 --> 12:29.000 And that sense, and it allows me to reach 12:29.000 --> 12:31.000 You know, a huge audience, a group of people 12:31.000 --> 12:34.000 We're hosted by a Biblio.org 12:34.000 --> 12:38.000 Which is real famous for hosting all kinds of things 12:38.000 --> 12:41.000 Like free software, that sort of stuff 12:41.000 --> 12:43.000 But that's what I've been doing 12:43.000 --> 12:46.000 And what's amazing is I'm listening to your show 12:46.000 --> 12:48.000 As a streaming in V3 with iTunes 12:48.000 --> 12:50.000 On my PC at work 12:50.000 --> 12:52.000 And I heard about this show 12:52.000 --> 12:53.000 On Docs, Girls' Blog 12:53.000 --> 12:56.000 So the viral nature of how we hear about 12:56.000 --> 12:59.000 You know, what's going on, what items up to 12:59.000 --> 13:01.000 And what different people are doing 13:01.000 --> 13:02.000 Is, you know, a really fantastic 13:02.000 --> 13:05.000 And I'm talking about John Stewart there 13:05.000 --> 13:06.000 Yeah, that's great. 13:06.000 --> 13:07.000 Brian, thanks a lot for calling 13:07.000 --> 13:08.000 And that's, 13:08.000 --> 13:11.000 I think it's been good rather than competition 13:11.000 --> 13:13.000 So then the interview goes on 13:13.000 --> 13:16.000 I put a link up to a recording of the stream 13:16.000 --> 13:18.000 That Rick from WGBH 13:18.000 --> 13:20.000 Put up for us and he said I could point to it 13:20.000 --> 13:23.000 So the audio skips here and there in a couple of spots 13:23.000 --> 13:24.000 But you'll get a general idea 13:24.000 --> 13:26.000 And I think this is another win for the good guys 13:26.000 --> 13:27.000 This was great 13:27.000 --> 13:29.000 And I also, since it was so much time 13:29.000 --> 13:31.000 You know, it was so nice to talk for such 13:31.000 --> 13:33.000 For such a long, it's like three segments 13:33.000 --> 13:35.000 And 20, 20 minutes total 13:35.000 --> 13:36.000 I got to talk about, you know, 13:36.000 --> 13:38.000 Users and developers being together 13:38.000 --> 13:41.000 Also, a lot of Dave Winner came out of my mouth 13:41.000 --> 13:42.000 During that interview 13:42.000 --> 13:45.000 Particularly, you'll hear a bit about 13:45.000 --> 13:47.000 The blogger's fear getting closer to 13:47.000 --> 13:50.000 You know, what CNN is showing on television 13:50.000 --> 13:53.000 So I just wanted to give credit there 13:53.000 --> 13:55.000 Because I was listening to the interview again 13:55.000 --> 13:56.000 I was like, wow, you know, I sometimes 13:56.000 --> 13:58.000 To open my mouth and Dave comes out 13:58.000 --> 14:01.000 You know, that could, that could be dangerous 14:01.000 --> 14:03.000 Sometimes, got to watch that 14:03.000 --> 14:06.000 Okay, let me see 14:06.000 --> 14:08.000 Yeah, I got a lot of stuff to talk about 14:08.000 --> 14:10.000 Still, back to the music for a second 14:10.000 --> 14:12.000 In my previous show 14:12.000 --> 14:14.000 I solicited blatantly 14:14.000 --> 14:17.000 For folks to come up with a show 14:17.000 --> 14:20.000 And if you're willing to listen through some stuff 14:20.000 --> 14:22.000 And cue some MP3s up 14:22.000 --> 14:24.000 Maybe you can produce something 14:24.000 --> 14:26.000 And I've already seen it in my mail 14:26.000 --> 14:28.000 I've gotten quite a few responses 14:28.000 --> 14:30.000 I can't respond to all of them 14:30.000 --> 14:33.000 And I'm, you know, basically going to sit through everything 14:33.000 --> 14:35.000 It was kind of cool to receive an audio comment 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 Though from Andy Affleck 14:37.000 --> 14:39.000 Adam, hi, this is Andy Affleck 14:39.000 --> 14:42.000 Coming to you from the Washington DC area 14:42.000 --> 14:45.000 In the US of A 14:45.000 --> 14:50.000 And I'm, I'm responding to your call 14:50.000 --> 14:52.000 For help, looking for a producer 14:52.000 --> 14:54.000 From the latest podcast 14:54.000 --> 14:56.000 Almost forgot all about it 14:56.000 --> 14:58.000 Because the story from your wife 14:58.000 --> 14:59.000 After it was so hysterical 14:59.000 --> 15:01.000 I'm sitting listening to this on 15:01.000 --> 15:03.000 The bus ride home from work 15:03.000 --> 15:04.000 Laughing my ass off 15:04.000 --> 15:06.000 And people in the bus are looking at me like 15:06.000 --> 15:08.000 I am some sort of strange person 15:08.000 --> 15:10.000 You can see the looks and the faces like 15:10.000 --> 15:12.000 Must be one of them carry people 15:12.000 --> 15:15.000 Anyway, which I am 15:15.000 --> 15:16.000 It must show 15:16.000 --> 15:20.000 He's not like us, he's one of them carry people 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 So anyway, I'm intrigued 15:22.000 --> 15:24.000 By the notion of 15:24.000 --> 15:25.000 Uniting a producer 15:25.000 --> 15:26.000 Meaning someone sort of 15:26.000 --> 15:28.000 Gather up 15:28.000 --> 15:30.000 Scoured in that for some music 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 And he also might be useful for the show 15:32.000 --> 15:35.000 This is an intriguing, intriguing proposition 15:35.000 --> 15:37.000 For me because I have been wanting to do a podcast 15:37.000 --> 15:39.000 Since I first discovered this 15:39.000 --> 15:41.000 Sometime in early September 15:41.000 --> 15:42.000 I think it was 15:42.000 --> 15:43.000 I've been listening to shows 15:43.000 --> 15:45.000 Since just before early September 15:45.000 --> 15:47.000 And 15:47.000 --> 15:49.000 You know, and trying to do it 15:49.000 --> 15:50.000 My own show 15:50.000 --> 15:51.000 I just can't imagine pulling it again 15:51.000 --> 15:53.000 I just can't, with a four year old kid 15:53.000 --> 15:55.000 Finding a place to record 15:55.000 --> 15:57.000 Alone 15:57.000 --> 15:59.000 Is almost impossible 15:59.000 --> 16:01.000 Right now I've got my wife corraling 16:01.000 --> 16:03.000 Another part of the house so I can do this 16:03.000 --> 16:05.000 But I 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 The idea of helping out though 16:07.000 --> 16:09.000 In that capacity 16:09.000 --> 16:12.000 Is sort of the side of it that really interests me 16:12.000 --> 16:14.000 I think I've got interesting things to say 16:14.000 --> 16:15.000 But you know, I could put that on hold 16:15.000 --> 16:16.000 Or I could still do my own thing 16:16.000 --> 16:18.000 But to be able to sort of help you out 16:18.000 --> 16:20.000 In some of the things you're looking at 16:20.000 --> 16:22.000 Finding music 16:22.000 --> 16:25.000 Trying to come up with some new ideas 16:25.000 --> 16:28.000 Hack, I used to be a frontier developer 16:29.000 --> 16:30.000 Many years ago 16:30.000 --> 16:32.000 Met Dave once too even 16:32.000 --> 16:33.000 Daddy remembers me 16:33.000 --> 16:34.000 But in your rate 16:34.000 --> 16:35.000 You'd be frontier developer 16:35.000 --> 16:36.000 Many years ago 16:36.000 --> 16:37.000 Did a lot of work up at Dartmouth College building 16:37.000 --> 16:38.000 Systems for them 16:38.000 --> 16:40.000 So even on the 10th bus side 16:40.000 --> 16:41.000 I even might be able to help out 16:41.000 --> 16:43.000 I haven't done anything in front here 16:43.000 --> 16:44.000 Since 16:44.000 --> 16:45.000 Four point something or other 16:45.000 --> 16:46.000 But 16:46.000 --> 16:49.000 I doubt the language itself has changed all that much 16:49.000 --> 16:50.000 Anyway, I am 16:50.000 --> 16:51.000 Basically saying 16:51.000 --> 16:52.000 If you're interested 16:52.000 --> 16:53.000 I'm interested 16:53.000 --> 16:54.000 Maybe we should 16:54.000 --> 16:56.000 Talk and see what we can 16:57.000 --> 16:58.000 Figure out 16:58.000 --> 17:00.000 If you got a million of the responses 17:00.000 --> 17:01.000 And people who've said a lot more 17:01.000 --> 17:02.000 That's fine too 17:02.000 --> 17:03.000 Figure out give it a shot 17:03.000 --> 17:05.000 And that's it 17:05.000 --> 17:06.000 Signing off 17:06.000 --> 17:07.000 From Northern Virginia 17:07.000 --> 17:08.000 Bye 17:08.000 --> 17:09.000 Isn't that amazing? 17:09.000 --> 17:10.000 I mean 17:10.000 --> 17:12.000 The kind of people that are out there 17:12.000 --> 17:13.000 You know, interested in music 17:13.000 --> 17:15.000 Frontier developer 17:15.000 --> 17:16.000 This is great 17:16.000 --> 17:17.000 This is 17:17.000 --> 17:19.000 I really really dig in this 17:19.000 --> 17:22.000 And I got 17:22.000 --> 17:23.000 Also received just like 17:23.000 --> 17:24.000 Andy mentioned 17:24.000 --> 17:26.000 I got a lot of comments about 17:26.000 --> 17:28.000 Patricia's 17:28.000 --> 17:29.000 David Bowie's story 17:29.000 --> 17:31.000 Which lasted a lot longer than I expected 17:31.000 --> 17:32.000 I thoroughly enjoyed it 17:32.000 --> 17:33.000 We talked about that 17:33.000 --> 17:34.000 A couple of times 17:34.000 --> 17:35.000 Yesterday 17:35.000 --> 17:36.000 I had a lot of fun interviewing 17:36.000 --> 17:37.000 You know 17:37.000 --> 17:38.000 I even got more out of 17:38.000 --> 17:39.000 The interview 17:39.000 --> 17:41.000 The David Bowie's story 17:41.000 --> 17:42.000 Then I heard 17:42.000 --> 17:43.000 The first four times 17:43.000 --> 17:44.000 I squeezed it out 17:44.000 --> 17:45.000 I was like 17:45.000 --> 17:46.000 Tell me about David Bowie 17:46.000 --> 17:47.000 Come on 17:47.000 --> 17:48.000 Tell me that story 17:48.000 --> 17:50.000 And 17:50.000 --> 17:51.000 And 17:51.000 --> 17:52.000 I even got some requests 17:52.000 --> 17:53.000 People saying 17:53.000 --> 17:54.000 Hey 17:54.000 --> 17:55.000 Can't you give 17:55.000 --> 17:56.000 Patricia like your own 17:56.000 --> 17:57.000 Hipy story 17:57.000 --> 17:58.000 Channel or something like that 17:58.000 --> 18:00.000 She does have a couple more 18:00.000 --> 18:01.000 And she says that she enjoyed 18:01.000 --> 18:02.000 herself 18:02.000 --> 18:04.000 And that she's looking forward to 18:04.000 --> 18:06.000 Another episode 18:06.000 --> 18:07.000 We got to go 18:07.000 --> 18:08.000 Careflon 18:08.000 --> 18:09.000 I can't stretch it too much 18:09.000 --> 18:10.000 You know otherwise 18:10.000 --> 18:11.000 She'll get out 18:11.000 --> 18:12.000 You know she'll be onto us 18:12.000 --> 18:14.000 They'll really dig in this too much 18:14.000 --> 18:15.000 So 18:15.000 --> 18:16.000 And you know 18:16.000 --> 18:17.000 Don't you'll make me a slave 18:17.000 --> 18:19.000 Even more so than I am already 18:19.000 --> 18:20.000 So 18:20.000 --> 18:22.000 We'll get more hippy stories 18:23.000 --> 18:24.000 I promise you that 18:24.000 --> 18:27.000 Hit in the email here for a second 18:27.000 --> 18:29.000 Some came in from Toaster 18:29.000 --> 18:31.000 Toaster says 18:31.000 --> 18:32.000 He's been enjoying 18:32.000 --> 18:33.000 Daily source code 18:33.000 --> 18:35.000 And kind of made a mix 18:35.000 --> 18:37.000 You know a lot of these bush mixes 18:37.000 --> 18:38.000 That I've played 18:38.000 --> 18:39.000 Well, he kind of made a mix 18:39.000 --> 18:41.000 From the source code 18:41.000 --> 18:43.000 Along those along that vein 18:43.000 --> 18:45.000 And he mentioned something 18:45.000 --> 18:47.000 That we definitely have to talk about 18:47.000 --> 18:48.000 I do want to 18:48.000 --> 18:50.000 Just say that we lost a great 18:51.000 --> 18:52.000 He's a broadcaster 18:52.000 --> 18:54.000 But he totally was a podcaster 18:54.000 --> 18:55.000 John Peel 18:55.000 --> 18:56.000 British DJ 18:56.000 --> 18:58.000 Who I used 18:58.000 --> 19:00.000 They used to air him over in the Netherlands 19:00.000 --> 19:01.000 I mean he has to show what's 19:01.000 --> 19:03.000 Indicated across country lines 19:03.000 --> 19:05.000 I mean this guy was big in Europe 19:05.000 --> 19:06.000 He used to die very young 19:06.000 --> 19:08.000 65 to years old 19:08.000 --> 19:09.000 Of a heart attack 19:09.000 --> 19:10.000 He was in Lima, Peru 19:10.000 --> 19:12.000 I don't know what he was doing there 19:12.000 --> 19:14.000 And Toaster was also obviously a big fan 19:14.000 --> 19:15.000 Said you know 19:15.000 --> 19:17.000 Can you play the mighty wall 19:17.000 --> 19:18.000 Or the Smiths 19:18.000 --> 19:20.000 Unfortunately you know 19:20.000 --> 19:21.000 Can't do that 19:21.000 --> 19:22.000 Because we're trying to stay away 19:22.000 --> 19:24.000 From many problems with the RIAA 19:24.000 --> 19:25.000 Which sucks you know 19:25.000 --> 19:26.000 Because I know what he's talking about 19:26.000 --> 19:27.000 With these songs 19:27.000 --> 19:28.000 And those are memories 19:28.000 --> 19:30.000 You know it's important stuff 19:30.000 --> 19:32.000 So unfortunately I can't do that 19:32.000 --> 19:33.000 But I do want to play your mix 19:33.000 --> 19:35.000 Because it's really really good 19:35.000 --> 19:37.000 Back in La Blom Blom 19:38.750 --> 19:58.000 [ Music ] 19:58.000 --> 20:00.000 Hold me right caught up 20:00.000 --> 20:01.000 La Blom 20:01.000 --> 20:03.000 No one's buying anything 20:03.000 --> 20:05.000 Two weeks ago on the highway 20:05.000 --> 20:07.000 Hard in the side holster 20:07.000 --> 20:08.000 La Blom 20:08.000 --> 20:09.000 La Blom 20:09.000 --> 20:11.000 Be perfect right here 20:11.000 --> 20:12.000 Hold me right caught up 20:12.000 --> 20:13.000 La Blom 20:13.000 --> 20:14.000 La Blom 20:14.000 --> 20:15.000 La Blom 20:15.000 --> 20:17.000 La Blom 20:17.000 --> 20:19.000 She doesn't want my wand 20:19.000 --> 20:20.000 La Blom 20:20.000 --> 20:21.000 La Blom 20:21.000 --> 20:22.000 I hate it 20:22.000 --> 20:24.000 No one's buying anything 20:24.000 --> 20:26.000 They must have had their ears on 20:26.000 --> 20:28.000 They're blind 20:28.000 --> 20:29.000 They're blind 20:29.000 --> 20:30.000 They're blind 20:30.000 --> 20:31.000 They're blind 20:31.000 --> 20:32.000 They're blind 20:34.000 --> 20:36.000 Look at what people are doing 20:36.000 --> 20:38.000 What links for women to go 20:38.000 --> 20:39.000 I hope you hear us 20:39.000 --> 20:41.000 Back in La Blom 20:41.000 --> 20:42.000 La Blom 20:42.000 --> 20:43.000 The next side holster 20:43.000 --> 20:44.000 La Blom 20:45.000 --> 20:47.000 No one's buying anything 20:54.000 --> 20:56.000 Now shut me down 20:56.000 --> 20:57.000 Look what's going on 20:57.000 --> 20:59.000 La Blom 20:59.000 --> 21:01.000 Flame 21:01.000 --> 21:02.020 Bring back much of it 21:02.020 --> 21:02.920 Desperate 21:03.000 --> 21:04.000 Black Ferrari's Good Thoughts 21:04.000 --> 21:06.000 And prayers 21:06.000 --> 21:07.000 See you tomorrow 21:07.000 --> 21:08.000 Ohhh 21:08.000 --> 21:11.000 Eat all the heat off 21:11.000 --> 21:12.000 Great Energy Boost 21:14.000 --> 21:24.000 It's a full-surdest planet. 21:24.000 --> 21:29.000 It's a full-surdest planet. 21:29.000 --> 21:34.000 It's a full-surdest planet. 21:34.000 --> 21:38.000 It's a full-surdest planet. 21:38.000 --> 21:41.000 A lot of energy. 21:41.000 --> 21:55.000 It's a full-surdest planet. 21:55.000 --> 22:00.000 And it's a full-surdest planet. 22:00.000 --> 22:05.760 love that. And I tell you that at the end of the day, a buddy of mine came over, friend of 22:05.760 --> 22:09.480 mine came over. We had some dinner. Well, that means we're like, we're not got some pizza 22:09.480 --> 22:13.560 came back and hung out here. And we're just talking about, you know, life and stuff and 22:13.560 --> 22:20.280 getting older and smoke the couple joints. And then listen to this mix. It's very, very 22:20.280 --> 22:27.840 cool. Ray, thank you very much. Looking forward to coming over your way. And who knows? I'm 22:27.840 --> 22:34.160 sorry, toaster. Ray is from London. That's who I was going to talk about. Oh, man. See, 22:34.160 --> 22:39.520 smoke too much. All right. Let's get it straight here. This was a, yeah, this is about the 22:39.520 --> 22:44.200 director. He said, this is about OPML. We've been talking about this and Ray, who's 22:44.200 --> 22:50.680 going to welcome me from London and look forward to becoming. Has some some interesting 22:50.680 --> 22:56.520 comments and suggestions about XML, RSS, and particularly OPML and our iPodder.org 22:56.520 --> 23:01.640 directory. Hey, Adam. This is Ray Boison here, recording from London and the UK. Looking 23:01.640 --> 23:05.480 forward to having you here. Oh, how do I know that? It's going to be an interesting 23:05.480 --> 23:09.920 experience for you. I have a suggestion for the podcast directly though. I'm the editor 23:09.920 --> 23:13.520 of the technology directly. And I've noticed a lot of people are having some problems with 23:13.520 --> 23:21.320 the XML OPML, ML files that they send me as links. A large percentage of them are not valid 23:21.320 --> 23:26.160 in XML terms. I spend most of my iPodder time dedicated to helping the users getting 23:26.160 --> 23:32.080 the XML files to validate properly. My suggestion would be a link on Apple.org that allows 23:32.080 --> 23:37.480 the podcast to validate his or her's feed file. I'm not sure how to support it, but maybe 23:37.480 --> 23:42.720 we could get Dave Warren involved to help out. Well, that's all from cold London. No, enjoy 23:42.720 --> 23:46.840 the rest of your day. Oh, man, cold London. Thanks. That makes me feel real good. We're 23:46.840 --> 23:51.480 moving in less than it was like three weeks now. So I am living in the midst of boxes 23:51.560 --> 23:58.200 of my friends. I'm pretty sure that there are some validators that I don't want to, you 23:58.200 --> 24:02.360 know, point to them without knowing if that's okay. So I know that Dave's going to hear 24:02.360 --> 24:08.440 this and he's going to probably point me to a tutorial and a validator. I know there's 24:08.440 --> 24:13.880 an RSS validator. There's a couple of them. And there's probably an OPML validator. There 24:13.880 --> 24:20.440 should be. So that's that is good because I agree. I also spend a lot of my time helping out 24:20.520 --> 24:24.360 folks who want to maintain nodes within a directory. And if you go to iPod.org and if you're 24:24.360 --> 24:30.440 new to the podcast, this is a distributed directory. So no one owns it. No one's the boss of me. 24:31.560 --> 24:36.520 Anyone can contribute, maintain a node. You can add sub-nodes to that. And it's completely 24:36.520 --> 24:40.200 distributed across the web. And if you think that you want to start your top node, then you can 24:40.200 --> 24:45.480 do that. What's cool about this now is that it's also flowing into the new iPod or software. 24:45.800 --> 24:54.840 iPod or X. I'm using currently a beta version which is importing the entire directory. It's 24:54.840 --> 25:00.520 actually following all the links and crawling it and parsing it and bringing it information. 25:00.520 --> 25:04.840 And they are doing some really cool stuff. Stuff we've done in the weblog world, which is going 25:04.840 --> 25:14.040 to give us more information about what's happening in the podcast. God, I want to say it space. 25:16.440 --> 25:23.400 Okay, in the podcast world, let's leave it at that. And also I got a screenshot from Andrew 25:23.400 --> 25:30.520 from the iPod or Lemon Edition team. And they're also incorporating the directory into their 25:30.520 --> 25:37.320 next release. So exciting stuff coming up on all things iPod. Check out iPod.org if you don't 25:37.320 --> 25:42.600 already, if you're not already using the software or just for the latest updates podcast. And of course 25:42.600 --> 25:49.800 for the podcast directory. And now something about MP3 voice mail to email. Adam, thank you for 25:49.800 --> 25:55.400 dare I say inventing podcasting. Oh boy, I love the daily source code. And boy, almost cut up on all 25:55.400 --> 26:00.920 your podcast. Great stuff, very informative, very entertaining. A few podcasts back you mentioned, 26:00.920 --> 26:07.800 it is IR for receiving MP3s in your email. I don't quite have that set up, but I have been using 26:07.800 --> 26:14.840 J2.com's free fax voice mail email service. Basically, you get a US phone number that accepts voice 26:14.840 --> 26:19.240 emails and faxes and then emails into you. The voice emails are limited to five minutes and the 26:19.240 --> 26:23.880 quality is low, but it isn't too bad for a quick update or an observation. I use the voice mail 26:23.880 --> 26:29.560 box to send myself quick reminders when I'm driving. The voice mail attachments come as GSM files. 26:29.560 --> 26:34.920 And on my Mac, they play right in the mail program using QuickTime. They also play on Windows 26:34.920 --> 26:41.320 with QuickTime. I think the service could be a pretty cool way to call in short podcast, like 26:41.320 --> 26:45.320 maybe from a trade show. You can have the voice mail as forward to Danny Box, so I can imagine 26:45.320 --> 26:51.720 a mailbox script that takes the attachments, converts them to MP3 and then posted to your blog. 26:51.720 --> 26:55.960 I don't have the skills to make this happen, but perhaps with your vast daily source code 26:55.960 --> 27:00.120 influence, you could encourage one or two of your listeners to look for a solution. 27:00.200 --> 27:06.440 Another way you might benefit from these MP3 voice emails or GSM voice emails would be for 27:06.440 --> 27:11.720 listener calling people going to call into the number, leave a voice mail and you can play 27:11.720 --> 27:16.840 it back to your show. Since it's free pretty much anyone who's podcasting can probably afford 27:16.840 --> 27:23.320 to now have a call in number for their podcast show. I'm really liking that idea, and I think I 27:23.320 --> 27:28.360 had a J2 account, but when it was still called J fax, I don't know, and I actually had a local 27:28.360 --> 27:32.520 Amsterdam number, and something happened in one away. I remember the problem is that they only 27:32.520 --> 27:37.560 would send wave files. They wouldn't make MP3s, and they got pretty big, and I should definitely 27:37.560 --> 27:43.560 look into that. I wish I had God, I can't really say this. I wish I had the Windows version of Skype, 27:43.560 --> 27:47.960 or at least the Windows functionality, because you can get this cool voice mail program to add on, 27:47.960 --> 27:53.080 and apparently it records voice mail when people Skype you. That would be really cool, you know, 27:53.080 --> 27:59.640 to kind of route around the whole telephone company dance there, but also a call number would be 27:59.640 --> 28:04.440 cool, but, you know, kind of think of it. Is that what I really need, you know, more things to 28:04.440 --> 28:10.200 check, more voice mail boxes, more email boxes, I'm really drowning here folks. Let me see, 28:10.760 --> 28:18.280 looking at the YEP external recorder, we are 20, what are we 28 minutes into this? I don't want 28:18.280 --> 28:23.320 to make it longer than 40 minutes. I do like that as a length for a show. So what I was going 28:23.320 --> 28:27.800 to do, I was going to review two parts of the Apple iPod presentation. I also want to play 28:29.400 --> 28:34.280 another song from the wire to the, okay, I'm going to drop the second part of the Apple iPod 28:34.280 --> 28:39.960 presentation, which is just you too. And I'll just, I'll sum up you two's appearance, presenting 28:39.960 --> 28:46.280 the new YouTube iPod with what my daughter Christina said, who was 14, and she's a punk rocker, 28:46.280 --> 28:53.400 and she said, you know, did you two ever not like suck? What do you mean? They're pretentious 28:54.200 --> 28:59.800 and they are, and they're cell outs and go look at it on Apple's website, you can look at 28:59.800 --> 29:05.320 the presentation, you know, and it's just sickening, man. See these guys, like pretend like this, 29:05.320 --> 29:10.280 oh, you know, Steve Jobs is saving the music industry. This is the future of, you know, 29:10.280 --> 29:15.160 iTunes music store is it, but meanwhile they're saying, you know, as long as we get paid, literally 29:15.240 --> 29:19.240 the edge is saying, hey, as long as we get, you know, I love Napster, and I love it, as long as we get paid, 29:20.840 --> 29:26.520 it just wasn't all, it was all the wrong things to say. It really was. Anyway, I was very disappointed 29:26.520 --> 29:31.640 by the presentation of the new iPod. I know I'm a fan, you know, I got an iPod. I'm a Mac fan, 29:31.640 --> 29:36.440 I'm an Apple fan. I love Steve Jobs's presentations. I love the way he does him. He's much thinner 29:36.440 --> 29:43.160 by the way, of course, he's been sick, he was operated on for cancer, and it was, it wasn't taken 29:43.240 --> 29:46.920 in back, I was like, whoa, man, he really got a lot thinner, and he looked, he just looked a little 29:46.920 --> 29:52.520 more frail, you know, which is totally understandable, of course, but if you haven't seen him, 29:52.520 --> 29:58.600 just trying to give you an image. And so he goes through blah, blah, blah, on some socks, you know, 29:58.600 --> 30:05.080 we have socks for your iPod for 25 bucks for three socks, fuck that, colored socks, I'm not kidding. 30:05.720 --> 30:09.960 And then, you know, the big moment, it's time to look at what's next. 30:13.880 --> 30:17.560 It was a nice stage. It was a nice stage. With iPod. 30:18.760 --> 30:26.920 All right, so that was the socks, the joke about socks. We get asked a lot. What's, what's podcasting? 30:26.920 --> 30:31.240 Next. Oh, what's next? You know, what's next? For the iPod. You know, 30:32.040 --> 30:38.600 at this moment, I'm going, oh man, I hope he says there's some people out there on the internet, 30:39.000 --> 30:46.680 and I hear their podcast then. No such luck. Everybody loves music, and iPod will always be 30:46.680 --> 30:54.280 a music device. Whoa, this is where I started to get worried. It will always be a music device, okay. 30:54.280 --> 31:00.280 It's about listening to music, but you see what I'm saying? We've got this great device. It's got 31:00.280 --> 31:06.440 a screen. It's got this amazing user interface with the click wheel. What else can we do with it? 31:06.440 --> 31:11.720 What else can we add to the music? And our competitors are saying, 31:11.720 --> 31:18.520 oh, shit. That's Dave. It's answer to the phone. You're on the source code. Good afternoon. 31:19.720 --> 31:26.200 I'm curious. Hey, Dave. You know what? Let me see in the next episode. No, I'm, I'm, you're on the source 31:26.200 --> 31:29.240 code right now. You have breaking news. You read the Times article? 31:29.880 --> 31:39.320 Better with everything. It is a K-A-S article. Yeah, a podcasting is defined and accepted. It doesn't 31:39.320 --> 31:46.840 even appear as its name. What are those? This is our previous review. Well, hold on Dave. Hold on 31:46.840 --> 31:50.760 home. You're breaking up. I want to be able to hear you. Come again on that last bit? 31:52.040 --> 31:57.240 It, they used the word podcasting like it was in the English language. Really? 31:58.200 --> 32:05.800 Yes. It's not a little piece. It's a, it's a welcome to the wonderful world in it. I piece of 32:06.440 --> 32:14.280 for the New York Times. It's, you know, they've been very sort of unwilling to accept. I mean, 32:15.480 --> 32:21.560 yes. They really defined the camera. They play up Don and Drew. Hold on Dave. I'm going to call 32:21.560 --> 32:25.320 you back because I want to hear this and it's just shitty. I know if I call you back a little bit of 32:25.320 --> 32:30.680 two seconds. God damn. So this is Dave calling in with the New York Times article that we've all been 32:30.680 --> 32:39.000 waiting for. Let's see if we get a little better connection. Yeah, I'm much better. Okay. Okay. So 32:40.120 --> 32:53.400 sorry. Yeah. Yeah. It has a picture of, um, um, uh, the net rock skies. Oh, really? Yeah. And it has some 32:53.480 --> 32:59.960 really great quotes for you. Um, it's just all around. We'll be able to ask these. And 33:00.520 --> 33:06.680 the nice thing about it is sort of like what, what is really not even said is that they just use 33:06.680 --> 33:14.600 the word podcast. Let's throw a word. Excellent. And, you know, the head of mine is, um, I mean, 33:14.600 --> 33:19.960 we, you know, it's to have all of this stuff feel, you forget how, I'll get, if they, I'll get it. 33:20.200 --> 33:26.600 But they say, you do food for our, uh, honest, on it, I subscription. So, you know, it's like, 33:27.480 --> 33:35.080 I'm, uh, it's food for your iPod. Absolutely. Right, but which, you know, who's feeling your 33:35.080 --> 33:42.440 iPod? Yeah, you know, uh, you know, so it's, it's a very, very, very adorable way, um, uh, I think we'll 33:42.440 --> 33:47.000 look back on this moment. Yeah, you know, it's, you know, it's a very, really important just to 33:47.000 --> 33:51.560 be different from the way that they handle. Well, I think it was, you know, now that I'm on the 33:51.560 --> 33:56.600 head, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's best. Uh, most of the time that we'd say there's no business 33:56.600 --> 34:02.680 model on the, or it's just like, to be radiates the fan. Right. Yeah, exactly. It's the hype of the day. 34:03.320 --> 34:08.520 This is not like that at all. This is not, I got it right. And I think that, uh, you, you're, 34:09.160 --> 34:16.120 like, you, to close the piece. Your quote is that, um, so we, you say, we, it is a nice, 34:16.120 --> 34:20.840 you can receive, I guess, with, uh, be it to any, and that's the thing here's to administer. 34:21.400 --> 34:25.320 Well, I wish I could have understood that. I hope, I hope no one who reads that article 34:25.320 --> 34:31.960 listens to this podcast. The, uh, because, you know, you, yeah, they don't see, as he took the 34:32.280 --> 34:39.640 off his body. Oh, that's too bad. They didn't do any fact checking there at the New York Times. 34:40.360 --> 34:45.560 Actually, actually, this was written by, uh, Sirus, uh, was his name Dave Fabiar? 34:46.520 --> 34:49.560 Caramel, are you? Caramel, are you? Caramel, are you? And he, you know, 34:51.000 --> 34:57.320 I have to say that he emailed me about five or six times after, uh, we spoke on the, we actually 34:57.400 --> 35:04.680 spoke on a Skype call, and he checked a whole bunch of facts. Yeah. He, he was very, very thorough. 35:04.680 --> 35:08.040 And I think he's a freelance writer. I think this might have been his first big piece for, 35:08.040 --> 35:14.120 is it, I mean, how many words is it? It's not one piece. And, um, I don't know how many words it is, 35:14.120 --> 35:21.320 maybe 1000 words. But, um, it's a great piece for podcast. And it's, uh, it's a, it's a piece 35:21.320 --> 35:30.840 for RSS, by the way. I mean, it's, it might be the first article that's part of RSS for a long time. 35:30.840 --> 35:36.280 They've been supporting it. But it was, it was really nice about it. It was an interview with, um, 35:36.280 --> 35:41.000 big K, and the variety of tick conversations. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, this is that, you know, 35:41.000 --> 35:46.680 the reason why we'd use three users. Yeah. And so it's not, you know, we don't focus to be on 35:46.760 --> 35:51.400 the, you know, or the wiring in the plug and stuff like that. We want to do this with some of 35:51.400 --> 35:56.760 what people are doing with it. And that's that. We just want users and developers to party together. 35:57.480 --> 36:02.680 Yeah. But, you know, when it comes time to the story is users, the developers, 36:02.680 --> 36:07.480 perfades in the background, the developer, he can get possible for the users to put on a 36:07.480 --> 36:12.440 don't on true show, you know. Yeah. Absolutely. There's a, yeah. 36:14.440 --> 36:16.600 Cool. Now, if you pointed to this from scripting news, 36:17.240 --> 36:23.400 bottom of scripting news, and I'll still, but then I bought it. Or two excellent. Excellent. 36:23.400 --> 36:28.840 Yeah. Yeah. This is good. This is a validation of the ice piece and, you know, thanks 36:28.840 --> 36:32.840 here at your time. Really. Yeah. Well, thanks everybody, because everyone's been a part of this. 36:32.840 --> 36:40.040 This has been great. Thanks everybody. Thanks, everyone. All right, Dave, I'll, I'll check 36:40.040 --> 36:48.200 you later, man. I'm going to play some tunes. Thanks to the news, buddy. Hi. Sorry about the 36:48.200 --> 36:54.200 quality there of Skype, but I don't know why I decided to sound like shit. It doesn't matter. 37:03.750 --> 40:24.200 [ Music ] 40:24.200 --> 40:54.200 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The Kors foralec. Yeah. Mmm, yeah. Yeah. I don't know what influenced me. Yeah? ese yeah. Yeah. That's the hardest I can know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Happy in the show. They got one but they like you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah, it's actually this Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do better for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 40:54.200 --> 40:57.960 This is a good day, and there's some other important things in there that I'm happy 40:57.960 --> 40:58.960 to see. 40:58.960 --> 41:05.720 I'm seeing recognition as Mr. Winner of the inventor of RSS. It is indeed nice that the 41:05.720 --> 41:07.720 New York Times is writing that. 41:07.720 --> 41:12.600 Okay, let's, you know, it's 40 minutes, a little bit longer into this, what are we now? 41:12.600 --> 41:14.960 This is a very small display, 41 minutes. 41:14.960 --> 41:23.800 Okay, can't do a show without something nutty from Pete, from Raster Web Audio. 41:23.800 --> 41:28.000 He's so into this podcasting thing, and this is the latest episode of Crack Me Up. 41:28.000 --> 41:30.280 Hope you don't mind if I play it in its entirety. 41:35.280 --> 41:39.760 This is Draster Web Audio, 4024, and 26. 41:41.480 --> 41:45.800 What we're going to do here is, you know, I'm preparing for the data to slash dot, add some sort 41:45.800 --> 41:50.640 audio commentary thing where you can provide your comments in audio. 41:50.640 --> 41:55.480 So I thought in preparation for that, I kind of do some of the more popular ones, the 41:55.480 --> 42:00.720 ones you're going to see anyway, so that way they'll be done, you won't need to do them. 42:00.720 --> 42:02.720 So here we go. 42:02.720 --> 42:06.200 Yeah, but does it run Linux? 42:06.200 --> 42:12.240 Natalie Bartman, imagine a bail wolf cluster of those things. 42:12.240 --> 42:17.480 Microsoft sucks, but it's not open source. 42:17.560 --> 42:22.600 Did you even read the article? 42:22.600 --> 42:23.600 This isn't new. 42:23.600 --> 42:26.200 I've been doing this for 10 years. 42:26.200 --> 42:31.000 Cowboy Neil, BSD sucks. 42:31.000 --> 42:35.640 First post, BSD is better than Linux. 42:35.640 --> 42:37.440 I have poured hot grits down my pants. 42:37.440 --> 42:38.440 Thank you. 42:38.440 --> 42:42.000 The site is already slashed at it. 42:42.000 --> 42:44.120 Apple sucks. 42:44.120 --> 42:45.120 That's it. 42:45.120 --> 42:46.120 Thank you for tonight. 42:46.120 --> 42:47.120 I love you. 42:47.120 --> 42:48.120 That was awesome. 42:48.120 --> 42:51.120 I was cracking up here in that for the third time now, fabulous. 42:51.120 --> 42:52.120 All right, everybody. 42:52.120 --> 42:55.120 And that's going to do it for the source code for today. 42:55.120 --> 42:59.120 I will do the Apple stuff another time. 42:59.120 --> 43:00.120 Yeah, I want to be positive. 43:00.120 --> 43:04.680 Now that we've got some good, good energy flow in the New York Times article, I was going 43:04.680 --> 43:10.360 to say in the closet about the iPod presentation, and I know Steve Jobs is going to read 43:10.360 --> 43:11.360 New York Times. 43:11.360 --> 43:15.360 He's going to read this and he's going to hear about our podcast and maybe he'll 43:15.360 --> 43:18.880 start singing. 43:18.880 --> 43:21.600 And again, maybe he will. 43:21.600 --> 43:22.600 This yet is still pretty attractive. 43:22.600 --> 43:26.080 But I think that brush metal look would have been more of a brush. 43:26.080 --> 43:27.080 There. 43:27.080 --> 43:28.080 Look at my good. 43:28.080 --> 43:29.080 A metal tampon. 43:29.080 --> 43:30.080 Two strings coming out. 43:30.080 --> 43:33.040 One for head four, one for the line out jack. 43:33.040 --> 43:35.760 And I'll be back tomorrow. 43:35.760 --> 43:38.040 I'm going to hospital my mom. 43:38.040 --> 43:40.040 So it'll probably be there. 43:40.040 --> 43:42.680 I like post on the show, but I'll have some music out there. 43:42.680 --> 43:44.760 And thank you very much for tuning in. 43:44.760 --> 43:45.760 And take care. 43:45.760 --> 43:53.280 Adam Curry, Adam Curry.com, live.kirt.com, and DailySourceco.com, see ya.