WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.120 Before we get started, let me remind you of the following results or events predicted in these things, 00:05.120 --> 00:08.000 the name of our materialism, from actual results. 00:08.000 --> 00:12.800 The factors that could cause actual events results to differ from expectations include 00:12.800 --> 00:16.080 lack of growth, intense competition in our industry, 00:16.080 --> 00:19.840 integration failures, changes in government regulations, 00:19.840 --> 00:22.720 operational failures, or looking to take them from success. 00:22.720 --> 00:26.000 Alright, some of the volumes of today should not be relied upon as representing our 00:26.960 --> 00:32.480 future. While we may delight something more than we say, it's a complete future. 00:32.480 --> 00:35.520 We need to not give it so even for us to change. 00:40.240 --> 00:44.320 Augustine, all's life, and a curry. 00:44.320 --> 00:46.640 Power of glory to all of us. 00:46.640 --> 00:52.640 Hi everybody and welcome to your daily source code. It is Monday. It is November 1, 2004. 00:53.520 --> 00:58.240 Bunny Bunny, or is it rabbit rabbit? I'm just supposed to say that at the start of each new month, 00:58.240 --> 01:02.240 and then money and good fortune will come your way. Let it be yours, my friends. 01:02.240 --> 01:03.840 Once again, welcome to source code. 01:07.200 --> 01:11.680 Got a lot of good stuff lined up on the show today and I got to talk about this new production 01:11.680 --> 01:17.120 system that I'm using. I feel so incredibly organized. I could actually almost do my nails 01:17.200 --> 01:22.560 while recording the podcast today. Some tunes and of course some politically oriented 01:22.560 --> 01:28.960 stuff because we are just about a day away from the elections. And we'll be looking at both sides 01:28.960 --> 01:33.120 and we'll be letting Republicans speak on the show as well. Yeah, new concepts. 01:34.240 --> 01:37.120 I'm not going to show a long one. I'm going to run but I don't know if we're going to make it 01:37.120 --> 01:49.760 40 minutes man, there's too much to do. So I'm coming to you today from Flanders, Belgium, 01:49.760 --> 01:56.560 from Curry Castle where there is less and less of our stuff to be found. It's all packed away in boxes. 01:57.920 --> 02:04.400 Today our brand new bed, I just decided we needed a new bed, didn't really like the one we had here, 02:05.280 --> 02:10.720 in Belgium. We just got a shitty bed and kind of lived with it. A good bed still an Amsterdam. 02:10.720 --> 02:14.560 So we bought a new bed and they brought it over. We can't sleep on it right now because it's 02:14.560 --> 02:22.320 going to be moved to the house in the UK. And man, that's what is that? It's only a little under 02:22.320 --> 02:31.440 two and a half weeks away. Oops, hold on. I forgot to silence the old telephone there during 02:31.600 --> 02:37.600 the show. So for the next 45 minutes you are in mind here on the daily source code as I said 02:37.600 --> 02:42.640 some political stuff here as well. Might as well kick it off with the tune from the billionaires for 02:42.640 --> 02:50.480 Bush. They say, you know what? Don't bother, don't vote. And now an important election day announcement 02:50.480 --> 03:00.000 from the billionaires for Bush. I keep flashing back on why it's okay. When the billionaires 03:00.000 --> 05:25.600 [ Music ] 05:25.600 --> 05:32.960 If you want to help you see, no. If you like the way the money flow, do you really want to rock the boat? 05:33.680 --> 05:40.400 Hey, the billionaires don't want you to vote. Billionaires, for Bush, don't vote on your daily 05:40.400 --> 05:45.680 source code. I don't know where that came from. I supposed to pick that up on the blog digger feed, 05:45.680 --> 05:50.800 but it's been floating out there. I'm seeing more and more of this, these surprises pop along, 05:51.760 --> 05:57.440 that's just like the John Stewart interview on Crossfire on CNN. You didn't really have to 05:57.440 --> 06:03.040 subscribe to any particular feed to receive that digger. That popped up just about everybody everywhere. 06:03.040 --> 06:06.560 I've got some more John Stewart on the way today on the show on the source code. 06:07.840 --> 06:14.880 The weekend was a little bit messed up. No Gilmore gang. You know, my weekend just doesn't feel 06:14.960 --> 06:21.760 right. If I don't have a Gilmore gang to listen to on Saturday or Sunday. And as I've said before, 06:21.760 --> 06:25.760 you know, when I don't get a Gilmore gang, I used to go and immediately start debugging my iPod or 06:25.760 --> 06:30.960 scripts. Now I know better and I know to go and check out the IT Conversations.com website. So 06:31.200 --> 06:36.480 nothing there unfortunately. I did just see just before I started the show. I see that the behind 06:36.480 --> 06:40.320 the mic series with Dave Weiner came out. So I can't wait to listen to that. I'll have comments and 06:40.320 --> 06:44.960 hopefully some expert excerpts from that tomorrow on the show. And during the The Billionaires 06:44.960 --> 06:50.160 for Bush clip that I played, like everyone that I wanted to talk to today started calling, 06:50.160 --> 06:55.360 so I've just put the phone on silent and have to make the calls when I get back or when I've 06:55.360 --> 07:03.680 done and I'm back on the phones. See, I was also talking to Dave Weiner. He also has a real problem 07:03.680 --> 07:09.920 with the Gilmore gang not showing up. And I said, wait, this is a big part of what differentiates 07:10.080 --> 07:16.640 a audio blog post from a podcast. You know, podcast, you're making a commitment. You're saying 07:16.640 --> 07:22.480 to your audience and even if that's one person or if that's, you know, 10,000 people or 100,000 07:22.480 --> 07:26.320 doesn't matter, you're making a commitment that you're going to do something. And people will 07:26.320 --> 07:31.520 become dependent upon that. So if you want to do a podcast and you're going to have to pretty 07:31.520 --> 07:37.440 much, you know, make the effort to have something up every single time, you know, that it's 07:37.440 --> 07:42.960 supposed to be up. So if it's a Friday show, like the Gilmore gang, you know, even if it's just a 07:43.760 --> 07:47.920 one minute piece of audio, the show that my aggregator kicks in, you know, my iPod or picks it up 07:47.920 --> 07:53.760 and I can hear, you know, hey guys, sorry, you know, Gilmore gang today. In lieu of that, here's 07:53.760 --> 08:01.600 his one, you know, from the archives. Here's the best of. And so I've been coaching Dave a bit 08:02.560 --> 08:07.280 because he's been basically doing audio blog posts and I said, you know, one chip really 08:07.280 --> 08:12.240 call it a podcast and let's work on a tune and get some stuff going. And when I'm out in 08:12.240 --> 08:15.760 in San Francisco, I want to help him set up some software and show him how I do these things 08:15.760 --> 08:20.080 live and on the fly because it's a lot easier to do him live than it is to go back and edit 08:20.080 --> 08:24.240 stuff in, which I know a lot of people are doing. They will make that a part of the session at 08:24.240 --> 08:30.160 blogger con. So looking forward to the more coffee notes more regularly, we love being regular with 08:30.240 --> 08:36.560 morning coffee notes. Stroke in time. Yes, a message from Todd. Listen to this. 08:36.560 --> 08:42.480 Hey, they're Adam. This is Todd. I just wanted to drop a note and say how great the interplay 08:42.480 --> 08:47.760 between your show and the Don and Drew show has been. In fact, I can't really think of any 08:47.760 --> 08:55.040 other shows or mediums where we get this kind of interplay or I might be kind of unique to podcasting 08:55.040 --> 09:00.000 at the moment. At any rate, you guys are amazing. I don't know what I do without your 09:00.880 --> 09:08.400 wit and cynicism every day. I keep up the great, great work. Wait, listen. 09:13.120 --> 09:17.840 Yeah, Todd, got one back for you, buddy. Here it comes. I've been receiving so many 09:17.840 --> 09:22.400 boring sounds from so many people is just awesome. And what do you think of that new opener, huh? 09:22.480 --> 09:30.800 Of the show? I found a new podcast, the earningscast at earningscast.com and that was actually 09:30.800 --> 09:36.400 a part of, I think, the double click disclaimer that you have to do in front of every earnings conference 09:36.400 --> 09:40.720 call forward looking statements, et cetera. I just kind of messed around with it and garage band 09:40.720 --> 09:47.360 and mixed in some music and cutting my opening sweeper and the rock money off power of pure 09:47.360 --> 09:54.240 intellect stuff. But the Buying's, man, that's just been too many of them. They had them. 09:54.240 --> 09:59.200 I still rise to Bill Rice.org. I just wanted to give a quick shout and make a request. I'm sure 09:59.200 --> 10:03.280 several of your faithful listeners like the self-reface and the lengthy flight of the water 10:03.280 --> 10:07.840 time. I wonder if the youth through the daily source code or maybe you and Dave through trade 10:07.840 --> 10:12.960 seekers could give us a special travel addition to these programs. Help us pass the time and maybe 10:12.960 --> 10:16.960 we could even pass it along to others as we evangelize along our pillar of the doubt to 10:16.960 --> 10:23.120 the call. I also wanted to quickly express my concern, prayers and hope to your mother and your 10:23.120 --> 10:28.800 family. It sounds like things are progressing positively and I hope that I continue blessing. 10:28.800 --> 10:33.840 And finally, I know your mantra has been what programmers and users parted together but I thought 10:33.840 --> 10:39.360 to consider an important part on the immediately after the president's election. It might also 10:39.360 --> 10:44.080 be appropriate to consider the possibility that maybe celebrating conservative, 10:44.080 --> 10:48.240 so-called liberals do also part together. Anyway, thanks for all the great things. We're doing 10:48.240 --> 10:54.880 as a blog at Podcasts and Space. I look forward to meeting you and blog at Podcasts on my friend. 10:54.880 --> 11:00.960 All right, Bill. Thank you very much, man. And I agree. And as you'll hear later on in this podcast, 11:02.000 --> 11:05.920 Republicans and Democrats definitely can party together and we've been partying together without 11:05.920 --> 11:10.400 really even knowing it or maybe only half of us were knowing it but the party still continues. 11:10.400 --> 11:20.160 That is what makes America great for sure. Now, you were talking about a blogger con 11:20.160 --> 11:26.400 trample edition, something that's a little bit longer. I wouldn't mind that myself. I'm stalking 11:26.400 --> 11:30.960 up now on podcast and forcing myself not to listen because I sit on a plane for about 14 hours 11:30.960 --> 11:36.960 from Amsterdam to San Francisco. So, you know, well, shit, my iPod won't even last that long but, 11:37.040 --> 11:42.560 yeah, we'll give it, maybe I'll keep the volume down low and I won't use the buttons too much. 11:42.560 --> 11:46.960 Maybe I can eat out 10 hours of listening pleasure. There's something you might want to take 11:46.960 --> 11:56.080 along though and I, they put a link to this on scripting news is the piece that Australian 11:56.080 --> 12:00.640 Broadcast Corporation did about podcasting. It's a very detailed piece, so I liked it a lot. 12:01.600 --> 12:08.400 I basically hijacked the real stream and created an MP3 of it and so that again, that's linked 12:08.400 --> 12:14.160 today. I think we're maybe from yesterday on scripting.com. Just a couple pieces I wanted to play 12:14.160 --> 12:20.000 from this because it was so detailed and what I liked the most is they had a lot of radio industry 12:20.000 --> 12:27.440 executives talking about what iPods and MP3 players and ultimately also podcasting will mean to their 12:28.320 --> 12:32.960 business and, you know, how it's snuck up on them. Can you outside and going, what could we do here 12:33.520 --> 12:39.920 to protect radio? I may be even grow out of it so we can either work a little less or for the 12:39.920 --> 12:43.440 same amount of effort keep even more radio listening. Nick Pete. 12:51.440 --> 12:56.480 You have all your favorite music living happily together in one place. Introducing the Apple iPod 12:56.480 --> 13:04.400 from HP. Your PC will never be the same again. HP. In that. Downloading audio from the internet, 13:04.400 --> 13:11.040 copying it to CDs, the rip and burn mentality has been around for a few years. What's really 13:11.040 --> 13:18.080 new is podcasting. Adam Curry, internet millionaire and one of the first DJs of the music TV 13:18.080 --> 13:26.960 station. Oh, man. Internet millionaire. Right. MTV has taken it up fast. Hi, I'm Adam Curry. 13:26.960 --> 13:32.720 Welcome to the iPod platform. I didn't want you to hear that. That's the first piece of the 13:33.680 --> 13:37.120 download feed. I should have prep this better. I'm sorry. Early this year, 13:37.120 --> 13:41.520 Carrie wanted to find a way. I want to look for them. I'm looking for the guy who says that they're 13:41.520 --> 13:47.360 really worried in the industry. Here it is. Our phone is expensive and as the audio downloading 13:47.440 --> 13:53.600 and podcasting is easy and cheap, advertisers and commercial broadcasters are worried about loss 13:53.600 --> 13:59.520 of revenue. And of course, heavyweight industry groups like the Recording Industry Association 13:59.520 --> 14:05.440 have a thing or two to say as well. Adam Curry. The reason why I can absolutely survive is 14:05.440 --> 14:13.280 nobody owns this. I was very specific in making iPod or org it's home. Nobody owns the way that 14:13.280 --> 14:20.240 this stuff is traveling. I think we'll have much less of a fight with the RIA as people, of course, 14:20.240 --> 14:25.440 we're going to start distributing music this way, whether in mixed form or radio form, but this 14:25.440 --> 14:31.120 is going to be some issues there. I don't think anywhere near as big as what the NAB, the National 14:31.120 --> 14:38.000 Association of Broadcasters could do if they totally misunderstand the result of putting these 14:38.080 --> 14:44.400 technological bits together. Most people, particularly broadcasters, understand that there is now 14:44.400 --> 14:50.560 a new antenna. There's a new channel. You can broadcast down and we don't know what the limits 14:50.560 --> 14:57.280 of it are yet. So far, we haven't hit any major walls. And one of the reasons it hasn't hit major walls 14:57.280 --> 15:02.880 is that it's relatively easy and cheap to have a little radio studio in your closet, record the 15:02.880 --> 15:09.120 audio and distribute it over the internet. We really have two important things. I want to listen 15:09.120 --> 15:15.040 to that guy a little bit. I wrote down the time codes. Maybe something should be done in the 15:15.040 --> 15:20.000 team. I never seem to sleep. They're tinkering away with computer code. 15:20.000 --> 15:26.240 There's this podcast being people who are here today. They never seem to sleep. They're 15:26.240 --> 15:31.280 tinkering away with computer codes, playing around with the new technology and they 15:31.280 --> 15:39.200 organize blogger conferences, like blogger con, which is on a day. And you don't have to be there 15:39.200 --> 15:45.120 because all the proceedings will be podcast. I believe this will be the first conference where 15:45.120 --> 15:51.200 podcasting is going to be up front and center. Yeah. Okay. Well, somewhere in this piece and it's about 15:51.200 --> 15:55.600 15 minutes long. I'm not going to look for it anymore. I don't understand why how I lost that. 15:56.560 --> 16:03.600 There's a piece about a radio executive saying, we were too busy paying attention to kicking 16:03.600 --> 16:09.840 the others guy. The other guys asked on the FM frequencies and all these iPod and MP3 players and 16:09.840 --> 16:14.400 people doing stuff with them kind of snuck up on us. I think what happened is I wrote down the 16:14.400 --> 16:20.560 time codes when it was an AIFF and probably when I compressed it down to an MP3 something went wrong. 16:20.560 --> 16:25.040 Let's just see because I wrote down a very specific time code where they were talking about 16:26.080 --> 16:31.120 about John Stuart. Let's see if I can find this reactionary talk. Well, I thought you were going to be funny. Come on. 16:31.120 --> 16:37.520 He thought, no, I'm not going to be your monkey. What? What? Within minutes, perhaps seconds of the 16:37.520 --> 16:43.120 show being broadcast, it was copied, distributed and downloaded via the web. You could watch the 16:43.120 --> 16:48.160 video on your computer. Cliffs of the audio were inserted into podcasts and re broadcast. 16:48.880 --> 16:54.560 More people got it via the web than watched on television. No one asked CNN for permission to 16:54.640 --> 17:03.040 re broadcast. The point is we got it out there and the traditional media in this case Australian 17:03.040 --> 17:07.760 broadcast corporation noticed that we got it out there and we got it out there fast and that was 17:07.760 --> 17:13.120 blogging. That was just blogs passing this around and along with that some podcasters wrote 17:13.120 --> 17:18.320 on that and we're getting pretty powerful here. I wanted to make a bridge between 17:19.200 --> 17:27.840 that bit about John Stuart and an appearance that John did made on C-SPAN, which I was also sent 17:27.840 --> 17:34.480 a number of pointers to. First of all, in this and this is about an hour, it's a bit more than 17:34.480 --> 17:38.800 an hour's worth of show. The quality is pretty low. I'm just going to play a little bit about it because 17:38.800 --> 17:46.640 this was actually recorded or broadcast before the CNN crossfire interview. It's interesting 17:46.640 --> 17:51.680 the language that John Stuart uses is I don't know how that works, how that can air on C-SPAN. 17:51.680 --> 17:57.280 He said mother fucker and shit and fuck a couple of times and act, you know, I didn't really notice 17:57.280 --> 18:02.480 it because I'm so used to podcast and it didn't phase me at all. But I was like, whoa, you know, 18:02.480 --> 18:07.120 hold on a second. How does that work? How come the FCC allows that to happen on C-SPAN 18:07.120 --> 18:13.200 and yet stops so much more, you know, Janet Jackson's nipple for instance. So anyway, 18:13.520 --> 18:17.760 since everyone enjoyed that piece of John Stuart so much on crossfire, here's a little bit more 18:17.760 --> 18:23.120 of the source code to his thoughts as he talks about this interview recently on C-SPAN. 18:27.120 --> 18:28.800 You know, you should have done at that point, you said, 18:28.800 --> 18:33.120 did he allow you to bring up no vacuuming? No, it's not a good good. 18:34.960 --> 18:40.000 My editor said, don't trade jokes. I'm not sure. But your chapter is called the 18:40.080 --> 18:44.720 Microsy's valiant Voguearians about the press. That is correct. What do you mean? 18:44.720 --> 18:51.760 Voguearians? I mean that the lowering of the discourse is done with tenacity. 18:54.800 --> 19:03.040 The press has bravely and nobly eroded the public trust. And I celebrate that. 19:04.480 --> 19:08.720 You, you also said, I Charlie Rose recently. It's the wrong room for this, by the way. 19:09.440 --> 19:11.280 No, it's great. I've done this at a union meeting. 19:11.920 --> 19:17.440 C-SPAN 11. All right. You told Charlie Rose about politicians who you said, 19:17.440 --> 19:24.160 seek above all else to retain power, quote, when you go to a zoo and see a monkey throwing poop, 19:24.160 --> 19:29.600 you go, that's what monkeys do. What are you going to do? But then you went on to say, 19:29.600 --> 19:36.560 what I wish the media would do more frequently is say, bad monkey. It's a brilliant metaphor. 19:39.360 --> 19:44.080 What I meant to say was when you see a monkey masturbating at the zoo. 19:46.640 --> 19:51.760 Listen, the room is dark and he's looking at you and it's very comfortable and you throw out 19:51.760 --> 19:59.440 the monkey metaphor. You know, they're not all gems, can? I'm riffing, baby. I'm spritzing. 20:01.200 --> 20:06.880 I'm working the room and it's dark and he loads you into sleeping thing and you've been 20:06.960 --> 20:11.360 listening to the minister of Singapore for half hour and you know, you get out there and you don't 20:11.360 --> 20:20.000 know where you are. Shit happens. What would happen if Hitler were interviewed by Larry King? What? 20:25.680 --> 20:31.040 More coffee? Let me go back to the bad monkeys. 20:31.120 --> 20:45.200 The gist. The essence to distill that is that we require what I'm advocating is that the 20:45.200 --> 20:52.000 media come work for us again, that that remove themselves from the symbiotic relationship that they 20:52.000 --> 20:58.320 have developed with the power structures of corporations and of the politics. And 20:59.200 --> 21:14.080 we as Americans can we shall fight? Never give in. I'm sorry. I don't know what happened there. 21:15.680 --> 21:23.040 No, it is all together too comfortable. We're busy in the world. We have things to do. 21:23.840 --> 21:29.840 And the corporate mentality and the political mentality is to create layers of 21:31.040 --> 21:37.920 obfuscation that make it difficult to penetrate what's going on. And the print media, by the way, 21:37.920 --> 21:43.520 is very different. Most of what I'm talking about is television. And the print media is much better 21:43.520 --> 21:47.200 providing context, but you're providing it a week later and by then everybody's moved on. 21:47.840 --> 21:51.520 I mean, that's the sad truth about it. It's the world moves much more quickly now. And 21:53.360 --> 21:58.160 the real responsibility now lies where the people set the agenda. And the agenda is set on the 21:58.160 --> 22:03.040 24-hour networks. And unless you're keeping up with them and unless they are held to a certain 22:03.040 --> 22:08.800 level of accountability, that's where the death is lost. Let me just say with that John last night 22:08.800 --> 22:12.720 in the debate, you wish the media had said, what about the monkeys? 22:13.680 --> 22:21.680 Well, again, it's not about a process. It's not about a moment. And so it's not about one debate 22:21.680 --> 22:29.440 and it's not about one issue. It's about holding to account this idea that debate is to advocates 22:29.440 --> 22:37.840 for two corrupt organizations that to have a democratic strategist and a Republican strategist 22:37.840 --> 22:44.160 is not a debate that's Coke and Pepsi discussing beverage supremacy. And it's not, it's not real 22:44.160 --> 22:48.800 and just suggests that it is what I'm suggesting is that the person mediating that has to have 22:48.800 --> 22:54.320 some expertise and has to have a job and their job can't be, what do you think Donna Brazil? 22:54.320 --> 23:00.320 Okay, what do you think babe, you can and we'll be right back. That's not a job. That's doing nothing. 23:00.880 --> 23:05.840 And it's allowing two people to dominate a debate that are strategists and understand 23:05.920 --> 23:12.320 the television press is getting their asses kicked and they're doing it willingly. And that's the 23:12.320 --> 23:18.800 thing that I think is so frustrating to watch at home because they have a role and they have a job 23:18.800 --> 23:24.400 and they're not doing it and that drives you insane when you watch. Go back to my, I should 23:24.400 --> 23:29.040 end it with a joke. We'll give you another opportunity, thank you. Larry King, you're right about 23:30.080 --> 23:34.880 so that's John Stewart on C-Spat. I like it when he gets really serious and even said that I should 23:34.960 --> 23:39.280 have ended with a joke. I don't think so. I thought I think it was really right on the money. Perfect. 23:39.280 --> 23:44.640 And I've spoken about this before, but I have a request in for an interview with John Stewart. 23:46.320 --> 23:52.480 His people know about it and it's obvious that podcasting still won't 23:53.600 --> 23:57.680 take the forefront when it comes to elections. So it won't have a chance to talk to John 23:57.680 --> 24:02.720 until after the elections. But then again, it may be just as important and just as exciting 24:02.720 --> 24:07.280 depending on how the elections go. You're listening to the Daily Source Code today is the first 24:07.280 --> 24:12.080 of November, 2004 time for the tap dancing podcast or news. 24:32.720 --> 24:37.360 What's most with cameras to form a documentary crew? A guy trying to stab his girlfriend 24:37.360 --> 24:44.960 for voting for Terry? Another guy ran down Florida's former secretary. The red socks won the first 24:44.960 --> 24:52.720 world series. It's not much less than a hundred years. But the headlines didn't waste much 24:52.720 --> 24:59.680 space on theories. Drugs replaced the website with new terrorists fears. Now Gibson called Arnold's 24:59.920 --> 25:04.720 a neighbor to say he won't support public funding for stem cell research. He said Arnold 25:04.720 --> 25:12.160 couldn't be short, but Arnold claims he called no right. Not to attack. Or even to brag. 25:13.040 --> 25:18.480 Mills, we saw well though we'd be moments with mental neck. Stay tuned for late breaking. 25:18.480 --> 25:31.600 Okay. That's the tap dancing podcast for news. I love that. Tap dance and podcast 25:31.600 --> 25:38.880 news, which comes through on the openpodcast.org feed. This is number 65 on the open podcast.org 25:38.880 --> 25:44.160 RSS feed. I figured out who this is and I sent her an email hoping that we could get her set up 25:44.160 --> 25:47.280 with her own feed because I'd like to subscribe to that separately. And I'd also like to point 25:47.360 --> 25:52.800 to because I think that's this is perfect. That's one minute 15 seconds of pure joy. Great 25:52.800 --> 25:59.280 creativity. A longer comment now. I want to say longer. I'm talking more than five minutes. But 25:59.280 --> 26:04.960 well worth listening to Ken Gans from Louisville, Kentucky. He starts off talking a little bit about 26:04.960 --> 26:13.040 podcasting. But kind of halfway through the conversation it turns a little bit. But not bad. Interesting. 26:13.120 --> 26:20.880 I want you to listen. I think you'll enjoy this. Hello there. Adam Curry. My name is Ken Gans. 26:20.880 --> 26:28.400 And I live in Louisville, Kentucky. I've been the avid podcaster actually a receiver of podcast 26:28.400 --> 26:35.840 for about the last three weeks. Guess I got started just about the time this whole technology was 26:35.840 --> 26:42.240 just starting to break loose. And I have to admit I'm addicted to the daily source code 26:42.240 --> 26:50.400 and also the trade secrets podcast. So I guess for that, do you get a hearty 26:50.400 --> 27:01.040 boi? If you prefer the more machine-based boi around we have. I love that. 27:02.240 --> 27:09.440 Well anyway, I never recorded anything on my Mac before. So I bought a microphone today and then 27:09.680 --> 27:14.720 little did I know I also needed a preamp because I couldn't hear a thing when I hooked a mic up. 27:14.720 --> 27:22.080 But I got this goofy radio shack mic and I'd be curious to hear what other people are using. 27:22.080 --> 27:26.880 Especially I'm curious what you use because it sounds very good. Yeah, let me tell you. 27:26.880 --> 27:30.560 First of all, I love radio shack. Radio shack rules. It is the store that bloggers 27:31.200 --> 27:37.360 survive on. I have a couple radio shack mics. I like them very much. What I'm using is a wireless 27:37.440 --> 27:50.240 set and it's made by... where these guys. Electrosonics, LEC, TROS, O and ICS, Electrosonics. 27:50.240 --> 27:54.960 This is a really expensive set. This is a main of because it's a professional television 27:56.240 --> 28:02.560 wireless microphone. But you might be able to use a little bit of filtering because it sounds 28:02.560 --> 28:08.480 just a little bit muddled, but not bad. I support radio shack especially for their microphones. 28:08.480 --> 28:12.800 What you want to get is you want to get the metal one that looks just like a sure. There's 28:12.800 --> 28:18.400 something like 39 bucks and really those those will work fine. But this one sounds pretty good. 28:18.400 --> 28:24.800 And I've seen to remember you mentioned that it was like a clip on mic. So I'd like to find out 28:24.800 --> 28:30.880 what that is. You know, we've got a couple things in gallon and then there's a couple things that 28:30.880 --> 28:39.040 are just total opposites. I'm a Jersey boy. Born in Jersey grew up there. I spent 20 28:39.040 --> 28:44.320 some of my years there before I struck out of my own. I'm an aircraft mechanic and a pilot. 28:44.320 --> 28:50.720 Though I'm not a current pilot. I haven't flown a long time. But I do have that love of aviation. 28:50.720 --> 28:57.920 And of course, I'm also a computer geek. No training in that field. I just seem to have that 28:58.000 --> 29:05.600 extra chromosome that allows people to understand unix and shell scripts and stuff like that. 29:06.160 --> 29:11.680 On a little more serious note, I remember listening to the daily source code when you told 29:11.680 --> 29:18.080 everyone about your mom's condition. And I've ever since that day I've prayed for each day 29:18.960 --> 29:25.520 a junior family. When I was three years old, my dad died of lung cancer. That was back in 1962. 29:26.160 --> 29:33.600 And then just five years later, my mom died also of lung disease. So I'm very familiar with 29:33.600 --> 29:40.240 how those things work and they were both heavy smokers and probably living in the old garden 29:40.240 --> 29:48.160 state wasn't helping too much either. But anyway, best of luck to your mom, best of luck to you and 29:48.160 --> 29:54.400 your family and I hope everything goes okay. So that's the end of the love vest. Now let's get down 29:54.400 --> 30:00.000 to some of the differences. Oh, here it goes. From time to time, I hear you and Dave Weiner talking 30:00.000 --> 30:09.440 about someday maybe podcasting video as if that's the next step or whatever. But as a user, 30:10.080 --> 30:16.720 that's the last thing I want to see. I think what makes podcasting great is that when you are 30:16.720 --> 30:23.920 passively listening to it with headphones or earbuds or whatever, you can do stuff like 30:24.080 --> 30:32.000 driving or riding a bike. I frequently listen while walking around a park and doing other kinds of 30:32.000 --> 30:37.040 activities like that. Also, there's something kind of cool about having you and Dave right between 30:37.040 --> 30:43.600 my ears, although from time to time it's a little scary too. It's like the shows kind of originating 30:43.600 --> 30:49.680 right from within my own head. Now what would really be cool and what I would like. Have you ever 30:49.680 --> 30:58.560 seen how a Griffin I trip works with iPod? You get your iPod to play these tones that Griffin has 30:59.280 --> 31:09.360 and you plan through the iPod and the I trip interprets these sounds and tunes itself to 31:09.360 --> 31:16.400 the certain FM radio frequencies so it can broadcast over the air to your radio so you can 31:16.400 --> 31:26.240 connect your iPod wirelessly. The tone sound something like this. Well now that's how I want 31:26.240 --> 31:33.280 my iPod and podcast or I don't want a video. I want the iPod interface directly to my cerebral 31:33.280 --> 31:43.120 cortex and I want the podcast like the Griffin I trip tones. Those because video to appear directly 31:43.120 --> 31:51.680 in my brain. That will be a cool application. I do like Dave's idea of having like a two-way 31:52.640 --> 32:00.240 interface where the podcast center the iPod and the user can also create things. I want to 32:00.240 --> 32:07.120 wait for the computer on the iPod to upload to the web and then go to other people's iPods as podcast. 32:07.440 --> 32:15.440 Now I guess the last criticism that I have. There's my dog pixel. Probably isn't going to exist. 32:15.440 --> 32:22.720 Oh, you're a dog pixel? You are a computer game dude. I'm going to respond to all the things 32:22.720 --> 32:29.360 that Ken said by the way because I have some responses but first we got to get through his final beef. 32:29.520 --> 32:37.360 The past two's day once the elections are done but what the heck is it with you and Dave supporting 32:37.360 --> 32:44.880 Kerry? I cannot for the life of me understand that. I guess I know you don't live in the country so 32:44.880 --> 32:51.600 maybe all you have to go buy is the BBC or something so you've got totally distorted view of the situation 32:52.560 --> 32:58.160 and I know that Dave lives out there and the people's Republic and Seattle but as I mentioned 32:58.160 --> 33:05.520 I live in Kentucky. I live in the heartland. I live in a big cluster of red states. In the heartland 33:05.520 --> 33:12.400 you learn how to take the measure of a man. When you look at John Kerry you don't see anything worthwhile. 33:12.400 --> 33:17.920 That guy's not fit to pick the cheese out from between George Bush's toes. Okay, hold on one second. 33:17.920 --> 33:22.960 I got a respond to that one. When I look at John Kerry and I see him testifying in the Senate 33:23.920 --> 33:29.760 during Vietnam right after he got out of Vietnam looking at what he went through at Vietnam 33:31.280 --> 33:38.640 he is a man. He definitely is fit to at least pick out the cheese between George Bush's toes 33:40.000 --> 33:45.920 which is a horrible visual Ken. What's Dave talking about a civil war? 33:46.640 --> 33:52.000 Good freaking guy. That is so over the top. I could not believe it when he said that 33:52.640 --> 33:57.040 in fact if there were any kind of trouble at all the only reason there would be is because 33:57.040 --> 34:02.400 Democrats are like a bunch of spoiled little kids. Even before the election or over here shoot 34:02.400 --> 34:10.880 up campaign headquarters, robbing campaign headquarters, assaulting Republican campaign workers 34:11.440 --> 34:16.560 are they telling you any of that stuff on a BBC over there? Right next door here in Tennessee 34:16.560 --> 34:23.280 they shot up Republican campaign headquarters. It's almost like you got the adults, the 34:23.280 --> 34:29.920 Republicans running against the kids, the Democrats and they seem to exist for no other reason 34:29.920 --> 34:36.640 than to spread fear and certainty and doubt. I think even if Bush wasn't president, they'd find 34:36.640 --> 34:44.240 some reason just to raise hell. This is not the Democratic Party of 20 years ago. This is a bunch of 34:45.200 --> 34:51.280 I guess what they remind me of is just spoiled little rich kids. You know, you got Jennifer Lopez 34:51.280 --> 34:56.400 over here saying stuff like if you vote for George Bush, rape is going to be legal. I mean these 34:56.400 --> 35:01.200 people are just so over the top is ridiculous. And I think even you mentioned that a 35:02.240 --> 35:07.760 not letting what happened in Florida happen again, nothing happened in Florida. The only thing 35:07.840 --> 35:14.080 to happen in Florida is you had a bunch of Democrats misdesign the ballot so that the idiots 35:14.080 --> 35:21.600 down there can figure out how to vote straight. And then when people looked at all the votes, 35:21.600 --> 35:26.720 you know, several independent new services, night ridder, a bunch of them looked at the 35:26.720 --> 35:32.800 tally's months and months after the election. Well, it came up the same. Even if the election 35:32.800 --> 35:38.480 wasn't decided in the Supreme Court, George Bush went to one. Case closed. They've been living 35:38.480 --> 35:42.560 with this for four years like it was going to kill them if they didn't get George Bush out of the 35:42.560 --> 35:48.080 White House. And what are they going to replace them with? I've got who when the gun gets stuff 35:48.080 --> 35:54.640 looks for the nearest person to stick a knife in their back and twist it. He did it in 1971 and 35:54.640 --> 36:02.000 too. And he's doing it right now to the third infantry division blaming him for some small amount 36:02.080 --> 36:08.160 of explosives that are missing over in Iraq. I mean, the guy is just, I think Mrs. Cheney said 36:08.160 --> 36:13.920 it best. He's not a good man. He doesn't deserve to be president. In fact, I don't even deserve 36:13.920 --> 36:19.920 thinking he deserves to be a senator, but the good people of Massachusetts will have to fix that. 36:21.200 --> 36:29.120 Anyway, I don't want to leave on a sour note, but can imagine how, how if you want to listen to 36:29.760 --> 36:38.160 you and Dave talking and I'm sitting there in my car. Y'all in my head off. You guys seem like 36:38.160 --> 36:45.440 pretty intelligent people. I don't really understand how you could be so swayed in the wrong direction 36:45.440 --> 36:52.400 on this election. But like I said, I really enjoy your podcast. I think what you guys are working on 36:52.400 --> 36:59.760 here is a really fantastic thing. I wish you all the best. And like I said, I'll keep your 36:59.760 --> 37:04.480 you and your family and my prayers and I hope everything goes well with your mom. Thanks a lot 37:04.480 --> 37:09.680 for everything. Take it easy. Yeah, that's what I like so much about the community that we have. 37:09.680 --> 37:16.320 We can differ of opinion and boy do Dave and I differ from of opinion, from Ken Gansson, Louisville. 37:16.400 --> 37:23.280 I wouldn't know where to start, because I just wouldn't make any sense to go into each point 37:23.280 --> 37:29.680 individually, but I felt it was good to let the source code listeners hear. It's an equal time 37:29.680 --> 37:35.680 from the other side. And also how we can still party together, regardless of our viewpoints. 37:36.240 --> 37:41.840 And we clearly both love America a lot. So a couple of the things I wanted to touch on, 37:41.920 --> 37:48.000 if there was so much in that audio comment. And I don't know if you have a podcast Ken, 37:48.000 --> 37:52.080 but I would really look forward to subscribing to it. Let me know so I can get in the iPod or 37:52.080 --> 37:57.840 or directory. Because it's refreshing to hear something else once the while. Even if I don't 37:57.840 --> 38:02.480 agree with it at all. And I picked up a couple clips that I wanted to play for you as a relate 38:02.480 --> 38:07.680 to your podcast. The first one, well, of course, is about the elections and the voting booth. 38:11.250 --> 39:40.840 [ Music ] 39:40.840 --> 39:42.840 And these big children real justice 39:42.840 --> 39:44.840 Learn the life from the father 39:44.840 --> 39:45.840 And my mother, big kids and chemo 39:45.840 --> 39:47.840 I like to tell you, hold me and I'm holding you 39:47.840 --> 39:48.840 I'm real close 39:49.840 --> 39:50.840 I'm here in whispers 39:51.840 --> 39:53.840 We need a peace rhythm 39:54.840 --> 39:56.840 Oh yeah 39:56.840 --> 39:57.840 To be right 39:57.840 --> 40:52.840 [ Music ] 40:52.840 --> 40:55.840 Which be sensitive for you 40:55.840 --> 40:59.840 My vote makes things right 40:59.840 --> 41:00.840 Well that's right 41:00.840 --> 41:02.840 Unfortunately, done enough metadata 41:02.840 --> 41:04.840 Pass along with that MP3 file 41:04.840 --> 41:07.840 Through blog digger their MP3, the blog digger media feed 41:07.840 --> 41:09.840 To let you know who that is 41:09.840 --> 41:11.840 All know is it's called voting booth 41:11.840 --> 41:13.840 And there's also a karaoke version out there 41:13.840 --> 41:15.840 But I don't know who it's by too bad 41:15.840 --> 41:17.840 Excuse me 41:17.840 --> 41:21.840 Going back to a little bit more of 41:21.840 --> 41:23.840 Ken's audio comment there 41:23.840 --> 41:26.840 He mentioned that he had a new microphone 41:26.840 --> 41:27.840 And he's not the only one 41:27.840 --> 41:29.840 There was another podcast that I bumped into 41:29.840 --> 41:30.840 That also had a new microphone 41:30.840 --> 41:33.840 We didn't have any complaints about the audio before 41:33.840 --> 41:35.840 Aside from my own 41:35.840 --> 41:36.840 Welcome to blogosphere news 41:36.840 --> 41:37.840 My name is Mack and I'll do a host 41:37.840 --> 41:40.840 We take a look at what's happening in around the blogosphere 41:40.840 --> 41:43.840 For Friday, October 29th, 2004 41:51.840 --> 41:52.840 Quite a few items to get to today 41:52.840 --> 41:54.840 But first off, the big news here at blogosphere 41:54.840 --> 41:56.840 Radio is that we got a new microphone 41:56.840 --> 41:59.840 We didn't have any complaints about the audio before 41:59.840 --> 42:02.840 Aside from my own dissatisfaction with the quality of our voice 42:02.840 --> 42:05.840 But in any case, audio quality should be much better 42:05.840 --> 42:08.840 At the very least, I'm excited to have a new toy 42:08.840 --> 42:12.840 I love hearing that 42:12.840 --> 42:13.840 That's blogosphere news 42:13.840 --> 42:16.840 And they got a new microphone over there 42:16.840 --> 42:19.840 And you can subscribe to the podcast 42:19.840 --> 42:22.840 At blogosphereradio.com 42:22.840 --> 42:26.840 That's BLO-G-O-S-P-H-E-R-E-R-E-R-D-O.com 42:26.840 --> 42:29.840 And there's always some good stuff in there 42:29.840 --> 42:31.840 There was always some nice little nougat 42:31.840 --> 42:34.840 A tip for the microphone there 42:34.840 --> 42:37.840 Maybe you want to try and move it away from the computer's fan 42:37.840 --> 42:39.840 And maybe move your face in a little bit 42:39.840 --> 42:40.840 Close to the microphone 42:40.840 --> 42:43.840 Close to the micang is what we call that in professional terms 42:43.840 --> 42:47.840 And that'll give you a better result 42:47.840 --> 42:49.840 And what I've done in the past 42:49.840 --> 42:53.840 Sometimes when either there was a wall that didn't give me 42:53.840 --> 42:56.840 The right acoustics or if there was fan noise 42:56.840 --> 42:59.840 You can also kind of position two couch pillows 42:59.840 --> 43:01.840 Next to each other in a V form 43:01.840 --> 43:04.840 That close behind the microphone 43:04.840 --> 43:06.840 That has been known to work pretty well 43:06.840 --> 43:10.840 So yeah, I'll be listening to the blogosphere news 43:10.840 --> 43:13.840 And see if anything changes in the acoustics 43:13.840 --> 43:16.840 Now here's the one thing that really blew me away 43:16.840 --> 43:20.840 about Ken's audio comment 43:20.840 --> 43:24.840 If you have this griffin eye trip 43:24.840 --> 43:27.840 If you have an eye pod, you might have seen this or heard about it 43:27.840 --> 43:30.840 The eye trip is a little plastic accessory 43:30.840 --> 43:32.840 That plugs into the top, I'm doing it here 43:32.840 --> 43:35.840 I'm doing it here, just to plug to the top of your eye pod 43:35.840 --> 43:38.840 And it enables you to broadcast the signal 43:38.840 --> 43:41.840 From your eye pod onto your car radio 43:41.840 --> 43:43.840 Or any FM radio for that matter 43:44.840 --> 43:46.840 I found that the signal was pretty good 43:46.840 --> 43:48.840 And many times I'm sure if you have this 43:48.840 --> 43:51.840 Then you've probably set it to a popular station 43:51.840 --> 43:53.840 And turn it on and see if people around you 43:53.840 --> 43:56.840 And traffic if they look down at the radios 43:56.840 --> 43:58.840 If they're trying to figure out what's going on 43:58.840 --> 44:00.840 So the way that you use this thing 44:00.840 --> 44:02.840 Is you basically just once you start playing 44:02.840 --> 44:05.840 It uses the headphone jack and it uses the little connector jack 44:05.840 --> 44:07.840 It recognizes that audio is coming through 44:07.840 --> 44:09.840 It fires up, it starts broadcasting 44:09.840 --> 44:12.840 And it broadcasts at whatever signal you set it to 44:12.840 --> 44:17.840 Now the way you set it is, and that's what you heard in the audio comment 44:17.840 --> 44:22.840 Is you have to play a series, actually it's just a little MP3 file 44:22.840 --> 44:24.840 Of a couple of short blips 44:24.840 --> 44:26.840 And that then changes the frequency 44:26.840 --> 44:29.840 To whatever those blips are associated with 44:29.840 --> 44:31.840 So I'd like to try something out here 44:31.840 --> 44:36.840 If you're on an eye trip, if you're listening 44:36.840 --> 44:40.840 Right now, hopefully you're somewhere in traffic 44:40.840 --> 44:43.840 Because what we're going to do is I'm going to switch all the iPods 44:43.840 --> 44:46.840 That are using eye trip at this very moment 44:46.840 --> 44:50.840 To 100.3 FM, which is a very popular frequency 44:50.840 --> 44:52.840 For top 40 stations 44:52.840 --> 44:57.840 And it should automatically change by me sending out the tones 44:57.840 --> 44:59.840 So I'm going to send out the tones 44:59.840 --> 45:02.840 That will program everyone's eye trip 45:02.840 --> 45:05.840 To start broadcasting on 100.3 FM 45:05.840 --> 45:08.840 And of course I'm going to try this myself to see if it works 45:08.840 --> 45:10.840 I'm just presuming it does 45:10.840 --> 45:15.840 So let's switch all those iPods to 100.3 FM 45:19.840 --> 45:21.840 Okay everybody 45:21.840 --> 45:23.840 Look around, look at the traffic 45:23.840 --> 45:24.840 How you doing? 45:24.840 --> 45:27.840 Welcome to the daily source code on 100.3 FM 45:28.840 --> 45:32.840 Long ago in days of your 45:32.840 --> 45:34.840 It'll begin with a god named Thor 45:34.840 --> 48:14.840 [ Music ] 48:14.840 --> 48:16.840 If you don't have a home 48:16.840 --> 48:18.840 You can buy one there 48:22.840 --> 48:23.840 Here's from Chester, Connecticut 48:23.840 --> 48:24.840 His name is Jonathan Coolton 48:24.840 --> 48:26.840 The album is smoking monkey 48:26.840 --> 48:28.840 That's his O2 Ikea 48:28.840 --> 48:30.840 And now that we're moving 48:30.840 --> 48:34.840 Even we are loving the joy 48:34.840 --> 48:35.840 That Ikea can bring 48:35.840 --> 48:37.840 When you need that book 48:37.840 --> 48:39.840 You just don't can't get the right size 48:39.840 --> 48:40.840 And you don't want to chop up 48:40.840 --> 48:41.840 Something antique 48:41.840 --> 48:43.840 Ikea's got it all for you 48:43.840 --> 48:44.840 I want to talk one second about this 48:44.840 --> 48:46.840 Great new podcast production system 48:46.840 --> 48:47.840 I'm working on 48:47.840 --> 48:50.840 It's kind of a podcast production console 48:50.840 --> 48:51.840 I'm using radio user land 48:51.840 --> 48:53.840 If you've never seen this program 48:53.840 --> 48:55.840 You can download a 30 day trial 48:55.840 --> 48:57.840 It's a weblogging client 48:57.840 --> 48:59.840 But it does so much more 48:59.840 --> 49:01.840 And a lot of it is based around 49:01.840 --> 49:03.840 It's internal scripting language 49:03.840 --> 49:05.840 It's object oriented database 49:05.840 --> 49:07.840 Or object database 49:07.840 --> 49:09.840 And everything is done in outliners 49:09.840 --> 49:11.840 And ever since 49:11.840 --> 49:13.840 I was introduced to Frontier 49:13.840 --> 49:17.840 Which they win or conceived 49:17.840 --> 49:19.840 And created and built so many years 49:19.840 --> 49:21.840 I've loved outliners 49:21.840 --> 49:23.840 Outliners make so much sense 49:23.840 --> 49:24.840 To the way my brain works 49:24.840 --> 49:25.840 And I love 49:25.840 --> 49:27.840 I've been using outliners to 49:27.840 --> 49:29.840 To line up radio shows 49:29.840 --> 49:31.840 And basically if you look at 49:31.840 --> 49:33.840 That the line up of today's show 49:33.840 --> 49:35.840 And I will post a screenshot 49:35.840 --> 49:37.840 You'll see that everything is neatly in a row 49:37.840 --> 49:38.840 From top to bottom 49:38.840 --> 49:40.840 And as I go down my list 49:40.840 --> 49:41.840 I can expand each node 49:41.840 --> 49:43.840 And that might have an email message in there 49:43.840 --> 49:45.840 But now it also has special nodes 49:45.840 --> 49:47.840 And with a little music note next to it 49:47.840 --> 49:49.840 So I know that that's an audio clip 49:49.840 --> 49:51.840 And if you double click on it 49:51.840 --> 49:53.840 It opens up the file 49:53.840 --> 49:54.840 In quick time 49:54.840 --> 49:55.840 Ready to play 49:55.840 --> 49:57.840 So it's a great way for me to organize 49:57.840 --> 49:59.840 All the things I need 49:59.840 --> 50:01.840 I used to have 20 quick time windows open 50:01.840 --> 50:02.840 And moving stuff around 50:02.840 --> 50:03.840 And that's really expensive 50:03.840 --> 50:05.840 For desktop real estate 50:05.840 --> 50:07.840 Excuse me 50:07.840 --> 50:09.840 Oh boy 50:09.840 --> 50:11.840 So now all I have to do 50:11.840 --> 50:13.840 Is basically when I get an MP3 50:13.840 --> 50:15.840 I want to add I just drop it into a folder 50:15.840 --> 50:18.840 If there's an email that I want 50:18.840 --> 50:20.840 I forward it to a special email address 50:20.840 --> 50:23.840 It all gets sucked into one central place 50:23.840 --> 50:25.840 All of the MP3's been scanned 50:25.840 --> 50:26.840 For metadata 50:26.840 --> 50:29.840 And put into a general playlist 50:29.840 --> 50:31.840 And then everything that's new 50:31.840 --> 50:33.840 We put into the new playlist 50:33.840 --> 50:35.840 So I can select from those 50:35.840 --> 50:37.840 And because it's an outline 50:37.840 --> 50:39.840 You can just move stuff around 50:39.840 --> 50:41.840 If you want this part of the show to come earlier 50:41.840 --> 50:43.840 You can move it up or you could even cut and paste 50:43.840 --> 50:45.840 And it's really fantastic 50:45.840 --> 50:47.840 And what's nice about it 50:47.840 --> 50:49.840 And I haven't done that part yet 50:49.840 --> 50:51.840 Because I'm slow but I'm getting there 50:51.840 --> 50:53.840 Is I want to be able to just save that outline 50:53.840 --> 50:55.840 And it should go with 50:55.840 --> 50:57.840 The podcast for that day 50:57.840 --> 50:59.840 It should be a part of the post 50:59.840 --> 51:01.840 And you'll get all the metadata 51:01.840 --> 51:03.840 That's relevant to what I played 51:03.840 --> 51:05.840 You'll get all the links to webpages 51:05.840 --> 51:07.840 That I reference everything I'll be in one spot 51:07.840 --> 51:09.840 And even better than that 51:09.840 --> 51:11.840 Because it's OPML 51:11.840 --> 51:13.840 And we've been talking about OPML on the source code 51:13.840 --> 51:15.840 Because it's OPML 51:15.840 --> 51:17.840 You'll be able to hook in to different pieces of it 51:17.840 --> 51:19.840 So we could basically have this huge 51:19.840 --> 51:21.840 Interconnected decentralized 51:21.840 --> 51:23.840 Podcast production suite 51:23.840 --> 51:25.840 This network 51:25.840 --> 51:27.840 If I hear something cool on your podcast 51:27.840 --> 51:29.840 Is going to your podcast console 51:29.840 --> 51:31.840 And look for that file 51:31.840 --> 51:33.840 And I could actually bring it in 51:33.840 --> 51:35.840 And then use that in my podcast 51:35.840 --> 51:37.840 I mean the thoughts are just mind-boggling 51:37.840 --> 51:39.840 But how this outline or expands 51:39.840 --> 51:41.840 And I'm learning about something really important 51:41.840 --> 51:43.840 And outline is called node types 51:43.840 --> 51:45.840 So what happens when you click on a node 51:45.840 --> 51:47.840 It can contain a link to a website 51:47.840 --> 51:49.840 It opens up your web browser 51:49.840 --> 51:51.840 It can contain a link to another OPML file 51:51.840 --> 51:53.840 It can contain RSS file 51:53.840 --> 51:55.840 It can contain an MP3 51:55.840 --> 51:57.840 That opens up in the quick time player 51:57.840 --> 51:59.840 It's mind-boggling 51:59.840 --> 52:01.840 It really is 52:01.840 --> 52:03.840 So we are going to run about an hour 52:03.840 --> 52:05.840 Probably a little bit over 52:05.840 --> 52:07.840 But it's well worth it because we got some more audio 52:07.840 --> 52:09.840 Comments on the way and some bush 52:09.840 --> 52:11.840 And carry cut-ups 52:11.840 --> 52:13.840 And if you're feeling down 52:13.840 --> 52:15.840 Have you been in a rut lately 52:15.840 --> 52:17.840 Then listen to the latest podcast 52:17.840 --> 52:19.840 From career opportunities 52:19.840 --> 52:21.840 Anyone no matter what their age 52:21.840 --> 52:23.840 Confine themselves in the depths of a rut 52:23.840 --> 52:25.840 It can start out slowly 52:25.840 --> 52:27.840 Going to the same restaurants 52:27.840 --> 52:29.840 Using the same software 52:29.840 --> 52:31.840 Listening to the same music 52:31.840 --> 52:33.840 The next thing you know 52:33.840 --> 52:35.840 There you are in a rut 52:35.840 --> 52:37.840 As I'm finding getting older 52:37.840 --> 52:39.840 Can make it even easier to get into a rut 52:39.840 --> 52:41.840 There are days when I simply don't want to face 52:41.840 --> 52:43.840 The trials and tribulations of daily life 52:43.840 --> 52:45.840 I just want to do something familiar 52:45.840 --> 52:47.840 Of course 52:47.840 --> 52:49.840 A few days later 52:49.840 --> 52:51.840 I wake up feeling bored 52:51.840 --> 52:53.840 And not really knowing why 52:53.840 --> 52:59.840 Even though I know the importance of finding new challenges, new passions and new input 52:59.840 --> 53:03.840 I have to actively reach out and engage the world in order to find them 53:03.840 --> 53:07.840 Imagine my rut-ridden joy 53:07.840 --> 53:11.840 When I discovered something new to engage my intention this last week 53:11.840 --> 53:13.840 Due to an odd set of circumstances 53:13.840 --> 53:15.840 I found myself with a week without much consulting work 53:15.840 --> 53:17.840 As I headed into the week 53:17.840 --> 53:19.840 I was dreading it 53:19.840 --> 53:21.840 How was I going to make productive use of this time? 53:21.840 --> 53:25.840 In scanning my daily list of RSS feeds 53:25.840 --> 53:29.840 Yet another way I try to find new, interesting tidbits 53:29.840 --> 53:33.840 I came across ipotter.org 53:33.840 --> 53:37.840 Adam Curry, a former VJ and current DJ 53:37.840 --> 53:41.840 Put together an Apple script to automatically collect MP3 files posted to the net 53:41.840 --> 53:43.840 Download them 53:43.840 --> 53:45.840 And push them into iTunes 53:45.840 --> 53:47.840 And then to the iPod 53:47.840 --> 53:49.840 This immediately caught my attention 53:49.840 --> 53:51.840 I don't have an iPod, but the new shows I discovered 53:51.840 --> 53:53.840 Engaged me immediately 53:53.840 --> 53:59.840 They also gave me a way to randomly sample new music as it came across the wire 53:59.840 --> 54:01.840 Much that I would have never sought out on my own 54:01.840 --> 54:03.840 Wow 54:03.840 --> 54:05.840 Here was a whole new world opening up 54:05.840 --> 54:07.840 With very little effort 54:07.840 --> 54:11.840 I immediately grabbed the software and began to closely follow the iPod or world 54:11.840 --> 54:15.840 Including a group that quickly collapsed to expand development on the software side 54:15.840 --> 54:17.840 Suddenly I was energized 54:17.840 --> 54:21.840 I didn't want to go to bed at night and couldn't wait to get up in the morning 54:21.840 --> 54:27.840 Here was this little piece of the internet that was making me excited about technology again 54:27.840 --> 54:31.840 I was looking to break the rut and podcasting appeared to help 54:31.840 --> 54:34.840 These good feelings spread to other aspects of my life 54:34.840 --> 54:37.840 I found a few more topic ideas for this column 54:37.840 --> 54:39.840 Posted some good stuff on my weblog 54:39.840 --> 54:43.840 And had a great time at the free computer class I give it the library every month 54:43.840 --> 54:49.840 Don't discount how one small thing can wake you up and shake you out of your rut 54:49.840 --> 54:51.840 Even in some small way 54:51.840 --> 54:55.840 If you can reach out and find one small toe hold 54:55.840 --> 54:57.840 It can help to raise you up 54:57.840 --> 55:01.840 If you're stuck in a rut you have to force yourself to look at one new webpage 55:01.840 --> 55:08.840 One new piece of art read one new magazine or listen to one new song anything to get your mind working again 55:08.840 --> 55:10.840 When you're languishing 55:10.840 --> 55:14.840 You have to keep listening for the knock of opportunity at the door 55:14.840 --> 55:18.840 While this discovery of podcasting helped me to get my thinking moving in other ways 55:18.840 --> 55:22.840 It also got me started on a project I thought about for years 55:22.840 --> 55:24.840 Producing audio versions of my columns 55:24.840 --> 55:29.840 So the people could listen to them on the bus on their bike or while doing their daily walk 55:29.840 --> 55:33.840 In the past the technology just wasn't there to support my idea 55:33.840 --> 55:35.840 Now with podcasting 55:35.840 --> 55:40.840 I could see a reason to drag out the mic and mixing console and get to work 55:40.840 --> 55:44.840 So starting with my column of September 24 55:44.840 --> 55:47.840 I'm producing a weekly show of each new column 55:47.840 --> 55:50.840 Released each Friday when the magazine is published 55:50.840 --> 55:54.840 Additionally, I'm releasing a column from the archives each week 55:54.840 --> 55:59.840 You can use the iPodter software available from ipodter.org 55:59.840 --> 56:02.840 To download the shows automatically as they're released 56:02.840 --> 56:06.840 I think that's nice that we got a whole new podcast started 56:06.840 --> 56:08.840 So that's career opportunities 56:08.840 --> 56:12.840 And you can find career opportunities in the iPodter.org directory 56:12.840 --> 56:15.840 Which is located of course at ipodter.org 56:15.840 --> 56:19.840 If you just want to sample some new podcast stuff that's fresh 56:19.840 --> 56:23.840 Just then release go to audio.weblogs.com 56:23.840 --> 56:27.840 And you can find links to the sites 56:27.840 --> 56:30.840 You can if you mouse over the the name of the podcast 56:30.840 --> 56:32.840 It'll give you the description of what was happening 56:32.840 --> 56:33.840 What's happening in the podcast 56:33.840 --> 56:36.840 There's a link to the direct link to the MP3 files 56:36.840 --> 56:39.840 You can download sample it right there as it comes in 56:39.840 --> 56:45.840 And of course the RSS 2.0 feed that's the XML icon 56:45.840 --> 56:52.840 You copy that link and use that to subscribe to that feed in any iPodter software 56:52.840 --> 56:56.840 And there's so much cool stuff happening in iPodter world 56:56.840 --> 57:00.840 Now everyone's looking at how a new and novel way is to integrate the 57:00.840 --> 57:03.840 The directory and thank you'll see now at ipodter.org 57:03.840 --> 57:06.840 In the podcast directory under what's new 57:06.840 --> 57:10.840 You'll see some new data which is the iPodter X guys data 57:10.840 --> 57:13.840 They basically if you use iPodter X 57:13.840 --> 57:17.840 They're keeping track of what podcast you're subscribed to 57:17.840 --> 57:20.840 So they have the iPodter X favorites and top picks 57:20.840 --> 57:23.840 Which is based upon user data which is extremely cool 57:23.840 --> 57:25.840 So make sure you check that out 57:25.840 --> 57:28.840 And of course the what's new is automatically generated 57:28.840 --> 57:31.840 If something is added to a node somewhere down the line 57:31.840 --> 57:34.840 That's even maintained and someone else's opml file 57:34.840 --> 57:35.840 It still shows up 57:35.840 --> 57:40.840 It's neatly categorized by a year month and by the day 57:40.840 --> 57:42.840 Thank you very much Dave for getting that in 57:42.840 --> 57:44.840 We also a Dave released a feed checker 57:44.840 --> 57:46.840 So you can see if your podcast feed works 57:46.840 --> 57:50.840 And it will work with the with audio.weblogs.com 57:50.840 --> 57:55.840 Which you can ping and there's all kinds of information about that on ipodter.org 57:55.840 --> 57:58.840 Another comment and another podcast that started 57:58.840 --> 58:00.840 Well, thanks to the podcasting 58:00.840 --> 58:03.840 But in part thanks to the to the daily source code to 58:03.840 --> 58:05.840 Another podcast that I introduced you to 58:05.840 --> 58:09.840 And it looks like we've got our American Indian brothers 58:09.840 --> 58:10.840 On the podcast 58:10.840 --> 58:12.840 Hi Adam my name is David Newberger 58:12.840 --> 58:15.840 And I work for the Quarterling Tribe in beautiful plumber 58:15.840 --> 58:18.840 I've been following podcasting since later 58:18.840 --> 58:20.840 I guess when it first showed up on my radar 58:20.840 --> 58:22.840 When I heard about it I thought wow 58:22.840 --> 58:24.840 This is exactly what I've been looking for 58:24.840 --> 58:27.840 A quick and easy way for our tribal members as well as employees 58:27.840 --> 58:29.840 To get out information to the public 58:29.840 --> 58:32.840 I started to think of ways to convince the tribal government of this 58:32.840 --> 58:35.840 Which is where the daily source code comes in a play 58:35.840 --> 58:36.840 On October 21st 58:36.840 --> 58:40.840 You had an example podcast from Texas A and I'm the university called 58:40.840 --> 58:42.840 The Agricultural News Weekly 58:43.840 --> 58:47.840 This was a final piece of evidence I needed to convince the rest of tribe of 58:47.840 --> 58:49.840 Podcasting's practical uses 58:49.840 --> 58:52.840 So with that firmly cemented in their minds 58:52.840 --> 58:56.840 We are now working on a rather large list of programs to air through podcasting 58:56.840 --> 58:59.840 We plan on using it as a way to get information that our tribal members 58:59.840 --> 59:00.840 As well as non-Indians 59:00.840 --> 59:03.840 Would like to know about the tribe and Indian country in general 59:03.840 --> 59:07.840 So thank you very much for helping me convince the tribe to use this new technology 59:07.840 --> 59:11.840 Here's just one small example of what we will be using it for 59:11.840 --> 59:13.840 Hello and welcome to the Court of Land Tribes 59:13.840 --> 59:18.840 Smoke Management Report for Thursday, October 28th, 2004 59:18.840 --> 59:21.840 Agricultural Burning is authorized for the following areas 59:21.840 --> 59:23.840 I'm a Court of Land Indian Reservation 59:23.840 --> 59:27.840 Zone 1, Cootney County, Zone 2 and 3, Benua County 59:27.840 --> 59:30.840 Burn Times RS follows 59:30.840 --> 59:32.840 12 noon to 4pm 59:32.840 --> 59:35.840 This message has been produced by the Court of Land Tribes 59:35.840 --> 59:38.840 Thank you very much David Newberger for that comment 59:38.840 --> 59:40.840 That's extremely cool, please let me know 59:40.840 --> 59:44.840 When the tribal podcasts are up so we can point to them and add them to our directory 59:44.840 --> 59:48.840 Hey, that's cool. We could have a whole new maybe you want to maintain a directory 59:48.840 --> 59:50.840 Node with the tribal podcasts 59:50.840 --> 59:51.840 Excellent stuff 59:51.840 --> 59:56.840 Okay, winding it up for today with a couple of emails and responses 59:56.840 --> 59:59.840 The first one from Brendan Creasy 59:59.840 --> 01:00:02.840 I'm just expanding the node here for my email 01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.840 Oh, I remember this was about 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.840 You might have heard the source code early last week and I started off 01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:12.840 and was a young child saying, you know, I listened to daily source code 01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:18.840 Adam Curry all day and I got an email from Brendan Creasy 01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:24.840 who sent me that clip and he said, you know, I loved hearing the clip 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.840 of my friend's daughter talking on the source code overjoyed 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:31.840 But bum that I failed to give him credit, I apologize 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:35.840 But it was kind of hard to give credit at the beginning in a montage 01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.840 But, you know, it's something to think about because 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:44.840 You send me stuff right and I use it and I presume that it's okay to use it 01:00:44.840 --> 01:00:46.840 If you send that to me 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:50.840 But does this mean that we should start a credit to the end of each show? 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:52.840 I'm not against it by the way, just a little more work 01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:56.840 But then that's something that I'll program into the podcast production console 01:00:56.840 --> 01:00:59.840 So anyway, thank you very much to your friend's daughter 01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:01.840 I we loved it enormously here on the show 01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:06.840 And Wilson Roberto Afonso says, hey, Adam, great to hear you playing Brazilian music 01:01:06.840 --> 01:01:09.840 even better when it's RIA free music, by the way 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.840 Did you know that the singer and composer of the song that I played 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:13.840 Remember that Latino song I played? 01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:14.840 Do you have Betto Jiu? 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.840 Currently, he's the Brazilian Minister of Culture 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.840 No, I did not know that 01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:24.840 Excellent, so the Brazilian Minister of Culture is into RIA free music 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:26.840 Gotta keep our eye on that guy 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:31.840 Now we're going to leave you with some cool two cool mix ups 01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:33.840 Political mix ups, of course 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.840 It's always easy to get some George Bush stuff 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:40.840 Chris Molotesta sent me a George Bush mix of clips 01:01:40.840 --> 01:01:45.840 But right after that, I'll play some interesting clip montage 01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:47.840 By John Kerry 01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.840 I'm so doing, we don't only free the American people 01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.840 We made our own people more secure 01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:54.840 I didn't realize I had to black do 01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.840 The minute I got elected 01:01:56.840 --> 01:01:59.840 The storm clouds on the horizon 01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:02.840 We're getting nearly directly overhead 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.840 But they underestimated what our campaign is about 01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:10.840 Well, thank you, Ashana, to witness that 01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.840 The courageous stage of our careers 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.840 That's the chapter of the last chapter of the 2020 documentary 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:20.840 That's our 21st century that most of us would rather forget 01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.840 The last chapter of the 20th century is the 1st chapter of the 21st century 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:29.840 I'm afraid that the union in our state must be the nation 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.840 We're every one called it 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.840 I asked the Americans to give 4,000 years 01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:41.840 of 4,000 hours over the next of the last few lives 01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:43.840 I'll serve as your mother 01:02:43.840 --> 01:02:46.840 But I am a student 4,000 hours 01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.840 This will dictate our ship in the heck a lot easier 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:52.840 Just for long time to dictate 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.840 I think war is the dangerous place 01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:58.840 It'll take time to restore chaos 01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:00.840 The tariffs and barriers everywhere are torn down 01:03:00.840 --> 01:03:02.840 Our economy will be strong 01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.840 That's our gas is the hemispheric 01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:07.840 I like to call it hemispheric in nature 01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:12.840 Because it is a product that we can find in our own neighborhood 01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.840 Responses have got to end 01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:17.840 In order for us to get this framework 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:21.840 The groundwork, the groundwork to discuss a framework for peace 01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:23.840 All right 01:03:23.840 --> 01:03:24.840 Know what I believe 01:03:24.840 --> 01:03:27.840 We'll continue to articulate what I believe 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:30.840 And what I believe and I believe what I believe is right 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:32.840 Welcome to the People's Home 01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:36.840 I'm sure you can imagine that there's an unimaginable honor to live here 01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:38.840 I see it all the time when people come up to me and say 01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:40.840 I don't want you to let me down again 01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:42.840 San is whether they west that's this girl 01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.840 Just like me there's an old saying in Tennessee 01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:47.840 I know it's the best it's probably gonna say this 01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:49.840 There's a fool me once 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:53.840 Same on 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.840 Same on you 01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.840 The fool me can't get fool again 01:03:57.840 --> 01:03:59.840 I am here to make an announcement 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:01.840 That this girl is me 01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:03.840 It can count as airplanes 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:05.840 We'll fly out along the way you know 01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:07.840 I ain't even know what you believe 01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:09.840 Make a lot easier than I have to question 01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:11.840 Hi 01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:17.840 Hello 01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.840 Podcasting 01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:20.840 All's live 01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:21.840 Adam 01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:22.840 My first is to America 01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:23.840 I have a plan 01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:25.840 Every plan 01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:26.840 My health care plan 01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:27.840 My plan for education 01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:29.840 My plan for kids to be able to get better college loans 01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:31.840 That my health care plan 01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:32.840 But I got a better plan 01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:33.840 I have a plan 01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:35.840 I have a better plan for homeland security 01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:37.840 I have a better plan to be able to fight the war on terror 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:38.840 Grab a plan 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:39.840 I have a plan 01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:40.840 I've laid out a plan 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:42.840 I think my plan is better 01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:43.840 And my plan 01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.840 I have a plan in my plan 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:46.840 I have a plan 01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:47.840 I also have a plan 01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:48.840 I have a plan 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:49.840 I have laid out a different plan 01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:50.840 and I have a better plan 01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:51.840 I proposed a plan 01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:52.840 My plan 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:53.840 I have a plan 01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:54.840 I have a plan 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:55.840 I have a plan 01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:56.840 I have a plan 01:04:56.840 --> 01:04:57.840 I've a plan 01:04:57.840 --> 01:04:58.840 and I have a plan 01:04:58.840 --> 01:04:59.840 and I want to talk about my plan somewhere 01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:00.840 I hope we can 01:05:00.840 --> 01:05:01.840 I have a plan 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:02.840 That's why I have a plan 01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:03.840 I have a plan 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:05.840 But I'll also have a better plan 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:06.840 I have a plan 01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:07.840 I have a plan 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:08.840 You choose your plan 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:09.840 If you don't want to 01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:10.840 take the offer 01:05:10.840 --> 01:05:12.840 Of the plan that I'd want to put forward 01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:18.960 I have a better plan. I have a plan. But I got a better plan. I have a plan to put America back to work 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:25.280 I have a plan. I have a plan. My plan does a better job and that's why I'll be a better commander in chief 01:05:25.560 --> 01:05:30.600 Okay, so I promise you that if you vote for John Kerry, we're gonna make him stick to every single plan 01:05:30.600 --> 01:05:32.600 He has promised 01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:35.080 Well, I'm sorry 01:05:35.080 --> 01:05:37.080 I got busted 01:05:37.080 --> 01:08:38.080 [ Music ] 01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:43.080 You are the light, you're just like my not the baby source code. 01:08:43.080 --> 01:08:45.080 For October, no shit. 01:08:45.080 --> 01:08:47.080 November 1st, 2004. 01:08:47.080 --> 01:08:51.080 And that's it for your source code, time to run it down for today. 01:08:53.080 --> 01:08:59.080 As always, you can leave all your comments and suggestions on my weblog live.curry.com 01:08:59.080 --> 01:09:01.080 or through email at www.curry.com 01:09:01.080 --> 01:09:05.080 I'm getting through a lot of emails and getting some stuff done, please. 01:09:05.080 --> 01:09:09.080 And of course, all the archives of the new shows at dailysourcecode.com 01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:14.080 And that's it for Monday's show. 01:09:14.080 --> 01:09:17.080 I'll be back tomorrow as we continue to pack up all of our stuff. 01:09:17.080 --> 01:09:21.080 Get ready to remove and on Wednesday, I get ready to get out of here. 01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:27.080 I take it to San Francisco for BlenderCon, November 6. 01:09:27.080 --> 01:09:30.080 Take it easy, everybody. 01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:32.080 I'll see you. 01:09:39.080 --> 01:09:49.080 I'll be back tomorrow as we continue to pack up all of our stuff.