WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.120 Before we get started, let me remind you of the following results or events predicted on these things, 00:05.120 --> 00:08.000 namely, and materials from actual results. 00:08.000 --> 00:12.800 The fact is that good cause actual events results to differ from expectations include 00:12.800 --> 00:16.080 lack of growth, intense competition in our industry, 00:16.080 --> 00:19.840 integration failures, changes in government regulations, 00:19.840 --> 00:22.640 operational failures, or looking to England's representatives. 00:22.640 --> 00:24.720 All right, so with fully as of today, it should not be 00:24.720 --> 00:28.160 like common representatives in the death of any subsequent days. 00:28.160 --> 00:32.400 While we name the like something more than we say, it's a couple in the future. 00:32.400 --> 00:35.600 We need to not give it a leave in front of us, too. 00:40.240 --> 00:43.040 Augustine almost lies! 00:43.040 --> 00:44.240 Adam Curry! 00:44.240 --> 00:46.640 Our Lord of the Lord, give it to us. 00:46.640 --> 00:49.360 We have to do a good morning, good evening. 00:49.360 --> 00:51.920 Whenever it's applicable to your body, the world, 00:51.920 --> 00:54.880 everybody inside of Curry this is the daily source code. 00:54.880 --> 01:00.080 We're Tuesday November 2nd, 2004, coming to you from Curry Castle, 01:00.080 --> 01:01.360 Flamper's Belgium. 01:01.360 --> 01:03.760 We're going to be for the next two and a half weeks. 01:05.760 --> 01:11.280 Lord, give it to the movies in an imminent imminent. 01:11.280 --> 01:13.440 It's coming up. 01:13.440 --> 01:15.440 This time, we got much to go into about. 01:15.440 --> 01:17.440 We are almost out of here. 01:18.400 --> 01:23.680 Wow, what a completely fucked up day we had here in the Netherlands. 01:23.680 --> 01:28.800 Damn, this morning everyone was kind of ready for the elections. 01:28.800 --> 01:32.720 Every single TV show here in the Netherlands had called me and asked me to be 01:32.720 --> 01:38.400 a guest on their show, which I had at the time, because I just did not feel like 01:38.400 --> 01:42.000 sitting on any TV show from midnight till 6th. 01:42.000 --> 01:48.480 I would much rather kind of watch it at home in the comfort of my own home, you know. 01:50.480 --> 01:54.720 And so the morning started with a whole bunch of phone calls coming in around nine 01:54.720 --> 02:02.560 o'clock people saying that a very well-known columnist television host, 02:02.560 --> 02:09.360 interviewer, producer, director, and also filmmaker, Dale Fahol, 02:09.360 --> 02:14.640 which you would put out as algebraic set. 02:14.640 --> 02:21.840 Theo Van Gogh, and yes, he is a descendant of any infamous and famous Vincent Van Gogh. 02:23.200 --> 02:28.080 Was murdered today in Amsterdam at about a quarter to nine. 02:28.960 --> 02:37.840 He was done down by a semi-automatic fire and then hacked with a knife, stabbed. 02:39.920 --> 02:46.560 The details are a bit sketchy still, but some eyewitness reports say his throat was cut, 02:47.920 --> 02:49.840 and a note was left on his body. 02:50.560 --> 02:54.880 And this happened right on the street, not far from his home. 02:55.680 --> 03:00.960 And I think from what I could see on the TV news, it looked like the note was actually pinned to 03:00.960 --> 03:07.040 his body with this butcher knife. It was pretty shocking. Let me tell you about Theo Fahol. 03:07.680 --> 03:12.160 So you get a little bit of perspective on this. This is one of these people that you have in society, 03:12.160 --> 03:19.440 usually associated with media more than with politics, that really color everything. 03:20.800 --> 03:27.680 And make the world just a little bit more fun to live in because these people are always challenging 03:27.680 --> 03:33.520 the edges of everything. And Theo Van Gogh's particular challenge was always his freedom of speech. 03:34.160 --> 03:42.240 And he exercised his right continuously. And he was not very well loved, although people who knew him 03:43.600 --> 03:50.160 knew that he was a very, very, very sweet man, a very loving father. 03:52.560 --> 03:58.960 And in a way, he felt that this was his role and the number one issue that he'd been hammering on 03:59.040 --> 04:09.840 for the past few years was how the multicultural integration process in the Netherlands has failed. 04:11.440 --> 04:18.560 Country of 16 million people, little over 16 million people in an air and land mass smaller than Rhode Island. 04:18.560 --> 04:34.000 And there's, I believe, 3 million Muslims of which a number are radical extremists. 04:35.040 --> 04:43.200 And Theo was a guy who said, look, we've got a problem brewing here. The people know it. 04:43.200 --> 04:49.680 The government is not responding. Something has to be done about this. This is something also, 04:49.680 --> 04:54.720 by the way, that PIM4 times said, you'll remember the politician who was assassinated. And he wasn't assassinated 04:54.720 --> 05:05.360 by or under the guise of some religious geod. But that was also one of his big mantras. 05:05.360 --> 05:13.040 And this was not a racist issue. This is a pure issue of culture clash that is just not 05:13.280 --> 05:20.000 driving within this country. I mean, I wasn't here when there's whole integration process started, 05:20.000 --> 05:29.600 but they did not set it up right. I think if you have people who don't even speak the language 05:29.600 --> 05:36.000 after having been here for seven or eight years, it's hard for them to integrate. Anyway, 05:36.000 --> 05:43.520 I don't want to get down into the discussion of it all. But Theo also was very vocal. 05:43.520 --> 05:47.600 And besides just being vocal in television programs and he wrote columns and newspapers, 05:48.480 --> 05:55.760 he also made movies. And he recently did a movie with a Dutch minister, a senator minister. 05:55.760 --> 06:03.040 She's a member of parliament, a Dutch parliament, here she is, and she is a Muslim woman 06:03.680 --> 06:09.520 who is exercising her free speech rights to criticize her religion as long. 06:10.960 --> 06:17.120 And they did a movie together, controversial movie, a short film, 06:18.240 --> 06:23.600 which was basically about how women are treated 06:24.000 --> 06:39.040 by or in the extremist believers of Islam. Very complicated. But there were some 06:39.040 --> 06:50.640 very profound statements in that. And it just drove this particular guy who killed Theo, 06:51.600 --> 07:00.240 it drove him to that point. And from by all accounts, this was totally a revenge murder for what 07:00.240 --> 07:06.640 he had to say or his expressions in this movie. And as you can imagine in a country that speaks 07:06.640 --> 07:11.440 a language that doesn't work anywhere else except for parts of Belgium and South Africa. 07:11.440 --> 07:16.880 You know, we've got a very tight, closed community, which wants to be very open. And 07:16.880 --> 07:26.880 you know, there's a lot of shit going on right now. So I didn't know Theo very well. 07:28.640 --> 07:34.000 In fact, I met him, he invited me to be on the television show to be interviewed in a 07:34.000 --> 07:40.720 simultaneous interview with Lowe de Valle, who's the, he's like the head of all the labor unions. 07:40.720 --> 07:44.720 You know, they always try to get a contrast. So I guess I thought I would be the capitalist pig and he 07:44.800 --> 07:50.160 would be the labor union guy. And we would, it turned out we had a lot more in common than we had 07:50.160 --> 07:57.760 differences. But Theo was directing that show. And we chatted before and after the show. 07:57.760 --> 08:02.560 And we decided to meet up. And we actually didn't meet only about four days later, I looked it 08:02.560 --> 08:09.040 up on my weblog. And it was a great, you know, it came up to the place in Amsterdam, to the to the 08:09.040 --> 08:17.680 bunker. And we chatted about everything from politics to, well, I was interested in getting him. 08:17.680 --> 08:25.520 He has a website. Theo from Khach. But I wanted it really to be, you know, more like a weblog 08:25.520 --> 08:29.520 structure. I was trying to help him get an RSS feed up and running, because he just, you know, 08:29.520 --> 08:36.160 he needed more distribution. He had something to say. He was a blogger. And one thing we really 08:36.960 --> 08:43.760 different on a opinion on was that he, he's a big bush supporter and thought that bush should 08:43.760 --> 08:47.760 definitely be re-elected. And something that's interesting, because I'm looking to watching television 08:47.760 --> 08:52.160 hearing all kinds of testimonials and he worked with a lot of actors. And they all said that he would 08:52.160 --> 08:56.960 always say to them, you know, leave here, leave the Netherlands, go somewhere else. And it's funny 08:56.960 --> 09:01.120 because when we had that meeting at the house, he said, what are you doing here? Leave, go, go back 09:01.120 --> 09:08.560 to America. This place is going downhill. There's, you know, there's no saving it. Boy, you know, 09:08.560 --> 09:12.240 how stuff can can roll. Anyway, I have a feeling you're probably going to hear about this. 09:13.280 --> 09:18.160 It might, well, I'm sure, if it, yeah, it's probably going to get just totally buried because 09:18.160 --> 09:22.320 of election coverage. Otherwise, it's something that would have made, and made the news in the 09:22.320 --> 09:25.840 states. It made it around Europe because, you know, it's like show business. You know, it's a thing 09:25.840 --> 09:32.240 this TV guy, filmmaker, getting killed and what I consider to be a pure jihadist action. 09:34.160 --> 09:42.000 So, I was just kind of really weird. And, you know, everyone's calling each other and just, 09:42.000 --> 09:50.240 you know, feeling really, really funny about what happened. However, we've got a show to do here, 09:50.240 --> 09:56.240 ladies and gentlemen. So, let's play a little bit of music that is perhaps inappropriate for 09:56.240 --> 09:57.040 today's events. 10:03.750 --> 12:11.250 [ Music ] 12:21.250 --> 13:11.250 [ Music ] 13:13.360 --> 13:14.720 My joans from their album diyor 13:14.720 --> 13:17.200 Strongация 13:17.660 --> 13:23.600 And I've played mo jones before on on the show and now in the production notes as I'm using 13:23.600 --> 13:29.720 my still undeveloped and spiffy new pod production console, you'll be able to find a link 13:29.720 --> 13:36.960 to the Modions website which is Modions.nl and also some information about the album. 13:36.960 --> 13:44.080 I read something on scripting news today about Dave was talking about some blogging tools 13:44.080 --> 13:51.920 that support enclosures and help you put enclosures which basically is an RSS 2.0 feed 13:52.000 --> 14:00.000 which is what a podcast feed is all about and he suggested making a sub-directory on iPodor.org 14:00.000 --> 14:04.400 in the iPodor directory which actually I think the site may be down or maybe I'm having some 14:04.400 --> 14:11.120 DNS problems here. I'll have to check that later. I'm making a separate category which of course 14:11.120 --> 14:19.600 is great because we want to help people make podcasts and make that as easy as possible. And 14:19.920 --> 14:27.120 and you know thinking about that I can see that the aggregator developers so the guys who make 14:27.120 --> 14:32.800 well as we're kind of popular aggregators are out there that are on the desktop certainly 14:32.800 --> 14:37.520 we've got net news wire for the Mac. I hear a lot about news gator and some other 14:40.080 --> 14:46.960 some other desktop-based aggregators. So they're getting into their waking up 14:47.840 --> 14:53.280 and the starting to see that there's a part we go in on here on the iPodor's developer list 14:53.280 --> 14:58.960 where users are and developers party together and that we're really achieving some awesome things 15:00.800 --> 15:07.120 and they want to be a part of that and I think that makes a lot of sense actually but 15:08.800 --> 15:13.440 all the notes I've gotten so far have been you know hey we we support enclosures and this is 15:13.440 --> 15:20.080 what we do and I you know basically I think to myself oh yeah you know that's that's what we were 15:20.080 --> 15:26.000 four or five years ago today it's about making the connection to well we're not really making the 15:26.000 --> 15:32.480 connection to your iPodor MP3 player but we're making that connection to to mainly iTunes or the 15:32.480 --> 15:41.120 Windows Media Center so there's a lot of intelligence a lot of knowledge on the iPodor developer list 15:42.080 --> 15:47.680 I believe here listening to the developers podcast that Garth Kidd puts together 15:48.240 --> 15:52.880 for the iPodor team iPodor lemons what I call it 15:54.720 --> 16:00.800 that they're modularizing everything and you know so it's real easy I think to hop on board here 16:02.000 --> 16:06.960 and you know we should put together some kind of checklist a day when I actually talked about this 16:07.040 --> 16:13.200 when you check list of you know what an iPodor actually has to do and you know hurry on 16:13.200 --> 16:18.880 up because especially you aggregator developers that support OPML there's some cool stuff happening 16:18.880 --> 16:25.200 with directories and flows and and somehow we're going to be able to patch this pod production 16:25.200 --> 16:30.080 console system into that and that's all going to be OPML I'm totally convinced I'm drinking the 16:30.080 --> 16:36.560 cool aid everybody so you know you're welcome on board and you know and let's see if we can 16:36.560 --> 16:41.280 that can help you out with with the final steps because it seems so trivial I know but it's really 16:41.280 --> 16:47.040 it goes beyond just to get it in closure onto the desktop it has to get into iTunes or into 16:47.040 --> 16:54.880 some other media player that will sync up with the mobile devices and I got a call today from 16:54.960 --> 17:01.840 Jennifer Khan from wired magazine she's not she's a science writer actually writes about you know 17:02.960 --> 17:10.160 nanotechnology and and really science geeky stuff and she's doing an article on 17:10.160 --> 17:16.240 satellite radio which she she says she knows nothing about and I'm not quite sure because this 17:16.240 --> 17:20.240 wasn't really an interview about pod casting although of course you know me I convinced her that 17:20.240 --> 17:26.720 pod casting is the end all to be all but before we got to that you know she said you know 17:26.720 --> 17:30.880 so what is this what is this satellite radio you know these guys actually have a chance of 17:30.880 --> 17:37.360 making it will they be around and as we were talking you know and I was kind of making it up as I 17:37.360 --> 17:42.080 went along and she was a really it turned out to be a really good discussion partner particularly 17:42.080 --> 17:46.160 because she had no preconceived notions and and really you said she knew nothing about it so I was 17:46.160 --> 17:51.040 able to kind of dig around in my brain and use my radio experience and we cope with a couple of 17:51.040 --> 17:56.800 interesting angles and then as you know as relating it to pod casting all of a sudden and I don't 17:56.800 --> 18:03.840 know if if I already had this conversation with someone if it was it it was probably with Dave I'm 18:03.840 --> 18:11.520 not quite sure but it hit me you know because I was talking about how satellite radio basically they 18:11.520 --> 18:15.760 have a limited spectrum as well it's just limited by money but you know so they can do 30 channels 18:15.840 --> 18:22.240 or whatever and they're basically these channels are all specialized and this is what what Jennifer said she 18:22.240 --> 18:27.280 said you know I don't like half the stuff that's on there this you know it's like the new wave 18:27.280 --> 18:31.520 country crap I think is what she said and I said you know I actually I personally do like a couple 18:31.520 --> 18:36.880 of the new wave country crap things and I realized that we're we're kind of both we're approaching 18:36.880 --> 18:42.000 the same problem from different directions where here's the satellite radio guys who are 18:42.000 --> 18:49.840 beaming down a very expensive signal with almost you know with very limited content or at least 18:49.840 --> 18:54.480 the content is packers in such a way that you almost want to tevoize it you know so that you can 18:54.480 --> 18:59.520 and in fact there are applications out there now that you record satellite radio and then you know 18:59.520 --> 19:05.920 basically sort that and put it into a playlist and and play it on your MP3 player or play it back 19:05.920 --> 19:11.200 through the through the digital system in your car I said well wait a minute wouldn't be really 19:11.280 --> 19:15.200 interesting think about what what the satellite radio guys could do because they're basically 19:15.200 --> 19:20.480 they're just using bandwidth right um they have seven megabits or whatever and they split that 19:20.480 --> 19:26.880 up so they can get an X number of channels but it's coming down to the your receiver digitally 19:26.880 --> 19:31.040 and these receivers are cheap you know that's that's the beauty of of what they're trying to do 19:31.040 --> 19:35.840 is you know you can buy to the supermarket and you know you plug almost literally plug it into your 19:35.840 --> 19:41.040 existing car stereo or you can buy the top of the line expensive you know model whatever you want 19:41.680 --> 19:48.880 but they're just sending down digital data now what if instead of having the M&M channel which 19:48.880 --> 19:54.400 I'm sure is wonderful but you know I'm sure there's a channel that that they could give up what if 19:54.400 --> 20:04.160 they decided to broadcast the top podcasts you know or the top 10 podcasts it could actually be 20:04.160 --> 20:10.000 more I think about a 24 hour period so let's say a couple of shows or an hour you know you're 20:10.080 --> 20:15.840 probably looking at 30 30 shows a day on one channel right before you start to repeat 20:16.640 --> 20:25.600 and you basically sell a receiver that will hook up to your iPod and your iPod will recognize 20:25.600 --> 20:29.520 these shows coming down the pipe or shit maybe just records them all you know whatever we'll get 20:29.520 --> 20:34.240 rid of it if we don't need it because you know it's cheap but think about if there's no difference 20:34.320 --> 20:41.920 between getting your podcast over the internet or receiving it through a satellite radio receiver 20:41.920 --> 20:46.960 but you know it could just be a seamless process that's running in the background anyway that so 20:46.960 --> 20:51.200 I I told Jennifer that you know we shouldn't do this interview we should go start a company together 20:51.200 --> 20:56.160 and she thought that was funny and then I invited a blogger con I don't know she's gonna come 20:57.520 --> 21:02.400 moving along uh one a highlight a couple of new podcasts today and this is actually the third 21:02.480 --> 21:07.600 installment of this podcast but it's been on my list to let you hear a little bit of it 21:07.600 --> 21:14.240 it's from a guy named Scott Lockman he lives in Tokyo and well that's pretty apparent when you 21:14.240 --> 21:15.200 listen to the show. 21:15.680 --> 21:33.200 oh this is Scott Lockman and welcome to Tokyo calling for Sunday October 31st you might 21:33.200 --> 21:38.480 call this the take to episode yes indeed I've been working for the last two hours trying to put 21:38.560 --> 21:44.720 together an episode I had 15 minutes of good stuff recorded using the program audacity 21:44.720 --> 21:52.000 and the thing crashed and I had not saved it beforehand so might talk this one up for podcasting 21:52.800 --> 21:59.200 learning episode number one what a bummer it was some pretty good stuff and it is gone there 21:59.200 --> 22:04.000 oh dude you're gonna live through so much more of that and last you listen to me and get yourself 22:04.000 --> 22:08.000 an external recording device just for about a hundred you live in Tokyo they're probably about 22:08.080 --> 22:14.800 50 bucks over there just a little flash based MP3 player and you know 256 megabytes is more than enough 22:14.800 --> 22:20.160 you can connect it up via USB then every piece of sound you can produce with your computer 22:20.160 --> 22:24.720 goes straight to the output if you can hear it you're recording it then you've got a total solution 22:24.720 --> 22:29.520 it's a temp file somewhere and I looked at it and it's about 60 different 22:30.080 --> 22:35.280 AU files all of them about one megabyte in there and it would take me more than another hour 22:35.280 --> 22:40.560 why does our density do that together so it will just have to be an episode that lives in my 22:40.560 --> 22:47.280 memory and one that is gone anyhow I still feel the need to get this out I want to do something 22:47.280 --> 22:52.880 before I go to bed not make this time spent a total wash I've appreciated all of the 22:52.880 --> 22:58.560 comments that have come in through the email this has been a great pleasure for me to put 22:58.560 --> 23:04.080 Tokyo calling together okay so there you go Tokyo calling you can of course catch that through 23:04.080 --> 23:10.720 the ipodder.org directory and I am putting in the links to it's actually it's a good idea 23:10.720 --> 23:17.280 and it's at this time I console you need to have the subscribe here link uh wait until I automate 23:17.280 --> 23:22.000 this thing it's going to be awesome it's going to be so easy to retrieve the source code if you 23:22.000 --> 23:27.440 will to the daily source code yep sucking on on exhaust again oh and a member was telling 23:27.440 --> 23:31.520 about the Gilmore gang yesterday how it totally ruined my weekend there was no Gilmore gang alone 23:32.400 --> 23:38.720 okay Steve you win this is Doug K the host and producer of IT conversations and not just for the 23:38.720 --> 23:44.400 sake of Steve Gilmore who has been bugging me to get an audio announcement out there explaining that 23:44.400 --> 23:49.360 we didn't have a chance to do a Gilmore gang this past week but for all of the listeners who have 23:49.360 --> 23:54.640 written and who have lost a lot of sleep wondering where the Gilmore gang was from Friday October 29th 23:54.640 --> 23:59.280 the fact is that we had a cancellation we couldn't put the show together Steve did everything in his 23:59.360 --> 24:04.320 power to get one together on Saturday a pre-election edition of the Gilmore gang but it just wasn't 24:04.320 --> 24:09.120 meant to be so we'll do everything we can to get you on this coming Friday November 5th it will of 24:09.120 --> 24:15.280 course be our first post-election edition of the Gilmore gang I'm Doug K the host and producer of IT 24:15.280 --> 24:20.400 conversations and thanks for listening see that that's cool and actually I almost considered doing one 24:20.400 --> 24:25.200 of those myself because it was so late this is actually right now it's oh shit it's three minutes 24:25.200 --> 24:30.240 at two a.m. two minutes at two clock just switched I'm going to stay up a little bit and watch 24:30.240 --> 24:34.320 some of the election coverage but I was considering doing the little hey guys I'm going to 24:34.320 --> 24:40.240 watch the elections I'll catch in a moral podcast but then I said no no I've got to be there for the 24:40.240 --> 24:48.000 gang and for people like Scott Brenner hey Adam Scott I was from Boulder Colorado I was calling to 24:48.000 --> 24:55.040 turn you on to coverville.com this guy Brian's doing a podcast 20 minute half hour podcast 24:55.040 --> 24:59.680 only doing cover songs pretty interesting was really interesting if you hadn't got an 24:59.680 --> 25:03.920 ask cap license told him exactly what he's doing and they gave it to him I thought you might 25:03.920 --> 25:11.040 cover that on your show and maybe you'd be interested in helping promote him so that ask cap feels 25:11.040 --> 25:14.960 like oh this was smart for us to give him the license we're getting you know we're getting paid 25:14.960 --> 25:21.600 and might help establish the license as you know reasonable that they're not going to six 25:21.600 --> 25:27.600 months go hey that's that's not what we had in mind want to pull that license just thought 25:28.640 --> 25:34.320 it's the Halloween edition of coverville and I promise you not once will I play the monster 25:34.320 --> 25:36.320 mash coming up right now 25:38.750 --> 26:04.400 [ Music ] 26:04.400 --> 26:14.240 happy Halloween and welcome to October 31st edition of coverville I'm Brian Abbott thank you for 26:14.240 --> 26:22.000 listening we're going to get into some Halloween music later on but no now we'll be songs I promise 26:22.960 --> 26:32.080 but first I want to get into a quick dedication John Peel BBC DJ extraordinaire again he was a 26:32.880 --> 26:39.360 DJ for the BBC longer than I've been alive and longer than fans of the music that he 26:39.360 --> 26:46.080 helped promote was alive hopefully that made sense he passed away earlier this week 26:47.360 --> 26:53.680 very sad and and definitely very sad occasion for London because he was just huge out there 26:56.160 --> 27:01.280 responsible for the discovery and popularity of bands like the Smiths and pulp and the 27:01.360 --> 27:08.240 cure a lot of great great music video promote I'm in a play something that according to the 27:08.240 --> 27:15.360 BBC's website they did a really nice piece on him on his biography apparently his favorite track 27:15.360 --> 27:24.160 was a a single called teenage kicks by the undertones in 1978 he played it constantly 27:24.800 --> 27:32.720 until finally Sire Records landed a deal with the undertones and and they got the music 27:33.840 --> 27:39.680 a little more widespread I'm not going to play the original by the undertones I'm going to go ahead and play 27:39.680 --> 27:47.360 a cover version by busted which came out just recently so there you go a little bit of cover 27:47.360 --> 27:53.520 ville thank you very much Scott Brenner for turn me on to that and I was happy to hear the whole 27:53.600 --> 27:57.600 piece about John Peel who we spoke about before on the daily source code and now you can hear some 27:57.600 --> 28:03.200 of the bands you discover but also hear what you know what was being said about how he just played 28:03.200 --> 28:07.840 these songs over and over and over again and that's exactly what we can do with podcast you know 28:07.840 --> 28:13.280 this is this is how it works you know if records don't become hits without some kind of 28:13.280 --> 28:17.840 infrastructure oh there you go that's another one for the list when you need a top 40 right podcast 28:17.920 --> 28:24.240 pod tune top 40 something like that email from Dithermaster boy that I that I 28:24.240 --> 28:32.560 fucked up on this remember yeah yeah yes I played those I trip tones to see if I could change 28:32.560 --> 28:39.840 everyone's iPod to a different frequency so I got some feedback on that Adam if you want the 28:39.840 --> 28:45.840 I trip tones files to actually change frequencies you have to not play the bit after the pause that's 28:45.920 --> 28:51.280 the cancel code that makes the I trip not change frequencies it's there sort of your iPod plays the 28:51.280 --> 28:56.880 frequency songs by accident say during the all play shuffle mode then your I trip won't change 28:56.880 --> 29:07.520 frequency so I guess it didn't work as you would say in the programming biz so yes I shouldn't have 29:07.520 --> 29:11.600 played the second blitz okay so that makes sense because I always wondered about that if if you're 29:11.680 --> 29:19.120 iPod accidentally picks one of those tunes at random which has those tones in it you know will 29:19.120 --> 29:23.280 it then start switching frequencies that's how they solve that with just little hack by putting in 29:23.280 --> 29:30.480 the clear tone for not to change but he says please please don't send that in your podcast it 29:30.480 --> 29:37.680 would suck for anyone using an I trip no longer packing the I trip files to change back or worse 29:37.680 --> 29:44.160 fumbling with their iPod on traffic and crashing I used to use an I trip I would curse your 29:44.160 --> 29:49.760 name if you did that you know what now they think about it yeah that was pretty stupid I'm sorry but 29:49.760 --> 29:54.880 you know in case we need it we can always use it as some kind of you know emergency broadcast system 29:54.880 --> 29:59.200 and it's good to know that it's there the latest search engine from Google could turn out to be a 29:59.200 --> 30:06.080 privacy nightmare once installed in a computer running Windows 2000 or Windows XP the new Google tool 30:06.240 --> 30:11.520 can find whatever's done on that machine including email sent or receive via outlook or outlook 30:11.520 --> 30:17.920 express AOL instant messaging and web visits it won't just give you an idea it will actually show 30:17.920 --> 30:23.440 you the physical pages and things that you've done. Pam Dixon is head of the world privacy forum 30:23.440 --> 30:28.880 she's concerned that the beta version of a Google desktop search now available for free downloading 30:28.880 --> 30:35.520 is not password protected so if you install it anyone with physical access to your PC has easy 30:35.520 --> 30:41.280 access to whatever you've done machine so for example let's say you go shopping online it will 30:41.280 --> 30:47.920 collect your credit card numbers if you do banking online collect your passwords and you're on my 30:47.920 --> 30:53.280 thinking financial information and consider this use a computer that has Google desktop search 30:53.280 --> 30:58.000 installed say you want to check your email from a friend's house they can see everything you did 30:58.000 --> 31:03.760 on that computer in complete detail by the way Google is the first but other companies have similar 31:03.760 --> 31:08.640 search engines in the works and that's today's tip i'm her voice bomb the consumer 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wait to try out all different pieces of software but you know already we're integrating the 32:00.640 --> 32:06.560 directory so what if there's a new show you know it could you could have stuff high light or tune you know 32:06.560 --> 32:12.640 just all kinds of cool things we can do and you can you know set up rules and oh boy love it 32:14.640 --> 32:20.560 talk about blogger con for a second tomorrow will be wins day or actually it will be wins day later on i'm gonna 32:21.520 --> 32:25.760 the in the afternoon early afternoon i'm gonna go to Amsterdam i'm gonna stay overnight there 32:25.760 --> 32:31.440 clay fly from Amsterdam from triple airport Thursday morning around noon uh yeah just before noon 32:31.440 --> 32:40.400 i fly by along to San Francisco and uh blogger con this is blogger con three is of course 32:40.400 --> 32:48.080 at excuse me Stanford University on Saturday November 6 and i'm going to be a discussion leader 32:48.160 --> 32:55.440 for podcasting session it's going to be uh i'm very excited about it um i'm on the plane i'm 32:55.440 --> 32:59.440 going to you know kind of making out line or actually going to use now line or making out line 32:59.440 --> 33:04.240 of you know what i want to try and get accomplished um if you have any thoughts about that 33:04.240 --> 33:10.000 please do do email me and put it in the subject line you know blogger con you know session thoughts 33:10.000 --> 33:15.360 or whatever because uh i'm a real mess with email right now i'm trying to get through it all 33:15.440 --> 33:21.280 and i'm trying to prioritize but it's a mess it is just a mess there's so much email coming in 33:21.280 --> 33:25.440 and i've learned from the past that the less email you send the less you receive but even that's 33:25.440 --> 33:31.600 not really helping right now uh so in preparing for my flight i'm also uh stocking up on on podcast 33:31.600 --> 33:38.400 it's really hard i'm forcing myself not to listen um there's uh uh let's see uh IT conversations 33:38.400 --> 33:45.600 behind the mic uh uh interview with it with my uh my partner and crime Dave Winner um and i've 33:45.600 --> 33:49.840 listened to a little bit of it but you know i want to save it i want to save that for the for the plane 33:49.840 --> 33:56.640 there's also uh Doug K was on a web talk radio uh we're also podcasting now and i want to listen to 33:56.640 --> 34:03.440 that uh what i do catch uh and i'm so happy Dave uh um at this i think this is for the first time 34:03.520 --> 34:09.120 and i talked to him about it he is now uh morning coffee notes is now officially a podcast and it was 34:09.120 --> 34:13.200 in you know about time we still we still need to get an opening tune for him but now he's he's put 34:13.200 --> 34:19.040 some structure into the show and what the couple things i really like about uh about uh the morning 34:19.040 --> 34:25.440 coffee notes uh one is the into just that even the title suggests such an intimacy you know you know 34:25.440 --> 34:30.400 here we are and of course i come from the written port the written version of morning coffee notes uh 34:30.480 --> 34:37.760 which is kind of you know Dave's brain dump uh uh you know that that he has with his morning coffee 34:37.760 --> 34:42.480 but they don't necessarily have to be done in the morning they can be done at any time but there's a 34:42.480 --> 34:48.400 real intimacy and uh i got to find out what microphone is using because it sounds really clean you know 34:48.400 --> 34:53.680 it's just a very clean uh audio in fact if i'm listening on the on the iPod sometimes i can 34:53.680 --> 34:57.520 hear i think it's a refrigerator or something that's kind of humming in the background and when that 34:57.520 --> 35:05.840 kicks off then you really realize how quiet it is um and uh so i wanted to play a little piece 35:05.840 --> 35:11.280 about uh the food this whole this whole podcast is great because there's stuff in there about 35:11.280 --> 35:17.920 how to make money on the internet with web logs with podcasts and um and and Dave goes into some 35:17.920 --> 35:22.320 some good detail about that i really suggest you listen to it if you're interested in making money 35:22.400 --> 35:29.440 you may not be um but as it relates to blogger con um he did a little piece about the Saturday 35:29.440 --> 35:34.800 food for thought dinners uh and i'm hosting one table i think there's a whole bunch of tables um 35:34.800 --> 35:39.440 and it's actually two i think two podcasting tables and dawn and drew will be hosting a second 35:39.440 --> 35:47.600 table so what a hood um but the thought behind the the food for thought dinners is uh there's a 35:47.600 --> 35:52.000 couple of different thoughts behind it but the one that i that i really like the most is comes from 35:52.400 --> 35:58.160 some personal experience that Dave has with uh with conferences which i find to be exactly like mine 35:58.160 --> 36:03.280 care to talk about what you you know what you signed up for but also it's okay to wander a little bit 36:03.280 --> 36:08.960 it's a it's a it's a social event and that leads to the second reason why uh we do these dinners 36:11.200 --> 36:17.280 is so that there can be a Saturday evening social event for basically that's open to everybody 36:17.280 --> 36:21.680 and this is one of the nicest i went to uh the world economic form conference in uh 36:22.160 --> 36:30.000 in Dallas uh Switzerland uh in 2000 and um this was one of the nicest things that they did there 36:30.000 --> 36:37.040 now had i relied on you know making dinner plans with uh people that i knew uh at the conference 36:37.040 --> 36:42.720 i would have eaten dinner alone every night um as i had in the early years of my career in the 36:42.720 --> 36:48.720 computer industry where you know i wasn't necessarily you know i for many years i wasn't an 18 36:49.680 --> 36:54.160 you know and people didn't necessarily want to eat dinner with me they were always kissing up and 36:54.160 --> 37:00.000 trying to eat dinner with you know more famous or richer people and uh more influential people 37:00.000 --> 37:06.560 and so very often i would be at these conferences um um you know first or second nights and have 37:06.560 --> 37:13.280 absolutely nothing to do you know which was really ridiculous because um you know those are the 37:13.280 --> 37:18.000 people that pay for the conference by the way the people who don't have anything to do on the 37:18.080 --> 37:22.480 and of course buttercon is a is a free conference you don't have to pay to come to it but the 37:22.480 --> 37:29.440 principles still stands in fact you know we we for more or less codified this we tried to 37:29.440 --> 37:36.480 discourage people from having private events at the conference uh they do happen people will get 37:36.480 --> 37:43.360 invited to uh you know sort of like invite only sorts of things uh and they don't invite me to 37:43.440 --> 37:49.520 them anymore because i tell them forget it don't do it i won't go you know because i feel that 37:49.520 --> 37:56.320 i'm trying to in in doing this conference to create um something that's kind of like the 37:56.320 --> 38:03.920 blogged sphere where um anybody can set up a blog you don't need to be um sort of an industry 38:03.920 --> 38:09.680 insider or an influential person or anything like it and as a result many of the really if you did 38:09.680 --> 38:15.280 didn't many of the good blogs wouldn't exist um mine sure wouldn't exist i mean i'm not the kind 38:15.280 --> 38:21.760 of guy the industry you know likes to turn to for um insider advice they they more or less like to 38:21.760 --> 38:29.600 forget about me and um no which is why i played it don't come easy it's getting over it all right so 38:29.600 --> 38:35.520 that's a bit from morning coffee notes and you'll be hearing a lot more uh on multiple podcast about 38:35.600 --> 38:42.880 blogger con i'm sure of it i let a new podcast now it's the gator jug podcast 38:56.400 --> 39:03.360 good morning this is Mike Levin this is your podcast from the swamp and uh we are here in beautiful 39:03.440 --> 39:10.480 winter park florida on monday november first it's about six forty five a.m. the sun is just coming up 39:11.520 --> 39:20.000 we don't have much debris left from the uh the um hurricanes that have hit but there's still a bit 39:20.000 --> 39:27.520 in the streets it's the day before election day and uh i'm just back from beautiful Switzerland 39:27.600 --> 39:36.320 my wife ran the double in marathon last week this is from the the poor brethren of the podcast 39:36.320 --> 39:44.240 you've ever just gone monday that was a a lifelong dream of hers and i decided to meet her in Zurich 39:44.240 --> 39:51.840 on Wednesday and then we had lunch in Milan for the weekend uh from florida to Switzerland and uh 39:51.920 --> 39:58.000 enjoy a change of pace and uh climate and et cetera for a couple of days okay that's right 39:58.000 --> 40:02.400 of the gator jug podcast there just want to let you know that there's all kinds of different voices 40:02.400 --> 40:06.800 out there do a different things and of course now that i've got the production notes together you'll 40:06.800 --> 40:14.080 be able to find the podcast feed directly uh from the post and uh this was it uh the some other 40:14.080 --> 40:20.400 stuff we're working on uh uh uh that's too early to talk about that i don't know how to explain it yet 40:21.360 --> 40:27.520 hit when that happens uh another promo uh people using openpodcast.org to uh to promote 40:27.520 --> 40:32.480 their stuff which i think is a great idea i really like this open podcast idea of you know just a 40:32.480 --> 40:38.800 place where you can either phone in uh or you can email a file i think it also email a url and point 40:38.800 --> 40:45.680 to a file um very cool concept because it's kind of like the PR engine of podcasting uh and 40:45.680 --> 40:50.240 i think there's room for many different ones you know there should be a podcast feed 40:50.240 --> 40:53.840 that's for certain types of announcements you know it should it should be short things which 40:53.840 --> 40:59.840 these openpodcast.org pieces are really interesting uh particularly uh when it came across uh 40:59.840 --> 41:25.520 this promotional announcement hello world introducing some instale.net a place where you can find 41:25.520 --> 41:32.160 music from Germany where your club can find informations about bands from Germany and we can find 41:32.160 --> 41:42.640 some stuff from the internet check it out some estale.net it's spelled as a mm-e-l-s-t-e-l-l-e 41:46.250 --> 42:18.750 [ Music ] 42:25.360 --> 42:30.720 rock scene was always tripping out a little bit you know the just a whole the whole culture and the 42:30.720 --> 42:34.640 whole vibe is a little bit different from uh from the states or maybe even any other year 42:34.640 --> 42:40.080 you can definitely know cool little jingle there at the end actually i should look this up 42:40.080 --> 42:46.640 uh because um i hung out with the scorpions uh remember they were really big uh uh what was uh 42:48.160 --> 42:54.000 was the wind the river or what was it uh i can't remember the name of the song um but they did 42:54.080 --> 42:59.120 something called the mascom music piece festival i should talk about a couple stories because i 42:59.120 --> 43:07.520 went along with that that was an 88 i think um actually i i i'd put up a site one time uh which is 43:07.520 --> 43:14.560 at mtv.curry.com where i had started uh this is when uh David first introduced me to directories and 43:14.560 --> 43:19.760 i started putting a directory together um and i started you know just an alphabetical directory 43:19.840 --> 43:25.040 there's some missing spaces but i was writing all the stories codifying what happened in the 43:25.040 --> 43:33.040 at the mtv days and that you hear it is i'm i'm gonna read the story to you oh this is funny okay 43:33.040 --> 43:44.080 holy shit um okay many a story this was posted um uh on oh wow how about this this was posted 43:44.080 --> 43:54.000 on november second 2001 at 1259 p.m. damn so that was you know a year ago exactly whoa okay 43:54.000 --> 43:58.400 i don't know this that there's a reason for that obviously let me read this to you many a story 43:58.400 --> 44:03.040 must be told about the mascom music piece festival among the many attendees like aziyahs born 44:03.040 --> 44:11.120 and bunjilvi were German rock gods scorpions shenker swans it my tale of aziyahs born you can read 44:11.200 --> 44:16.240 parts of the incredible journey we made from Newark to Moscow you made a quick stop in Frankfurt to 44:16.240 --> 44:22.000 pick up claustmina and the rest of the scorpions the scorpions were semi retired by then the drummer 44:22.000 --> 44:26.240 was even living on a mountain top and monkey carlow so these guys were pretty used to the star 44:26.240 --> 44:31.360 treatment star treatment was a far cry from the accommodations we were given in Moscow yes it was 44:31.360 --> 44:35.520 the best hotel on town but they still had to turn on the hot water facility and that part of town 44:35.520 --> 44:40.960 especially for us the beds were mattresses filled with straw though each room did have a tiny 44:40.960 --> 44:45.360 black and white set with one channel running that I suppose with some government propaganda 44:45.360 --> 44:50.480 this is before the wall came down so we were in the heart of communist russia in another story 44:50.480 --> 44:55.280 i'll delve into how skid rose Sebastian Bach and i wound up hanging out with the masco chapter 44:55.280 --> 45:00.800 the hell's angels a telephone was not a service considered standard in russian those days 45:00.800 --> 45:05.360 there was one phone per floor on the hotel and operator physically sat by the phone and if a 45:05.360 --> 45:09.920 call came in she would knock on your door to inform you that there was a call you take the call out 45:09.920 --> 45:15.760 in the hallway at her at her little station subsequently making a phone call was even worse 45:15.760 --> 45:20.480 you give the number to the phone lady who would schedule the call to be made the lag time between 45:20.480 --> 45:26.000 scheduling the call and getting place was about six hours i guess the kgb wanted to ensure their 45:26.000 --> 45:30.960 taps were in place later i hooked up with some cool guys from the westward one radio satellite 45:30.960 --> 45:36.160 truck who would link their stuff so they had an actual 516 area code dial tone in the truck for 45:36.240 --> 45:41.760 which let me use whenever i wanted to call home for those without such geek contact she 45:41.760 --> 45:45.520 really had to stay in the neighborhood of the phone lady since she called might be put through 45:45.520 --> 45:50.080 after only four hours of waiting time last thing you want was to miss her knock and have to 45:50.080 --> 45:56.640 reschedule the call so i mean the hallway on the way to pick up a can of tuna fish from my room 45:56.640 --> 46:00.960 one of the items on the list for everyone to bring when i noticed the phone lady is trying to 46:00.960 --> 46:06.000 figure out where root off shanker is because it's called been placed and was waiting for him 46:06.000 --> 46:11.520 now since the scourps axman wasn't in his room i figured i'd be a good dooby and try to find him 46:11.520 --> 46:17.040 so i knocked on his brother's door which wasn't closed properly it's one open upon my knuckle 46:17.040 --> 46:22.320 wrap to reveal root off sitting in a chair receiving a blow job from some germ if from some 46:22.320 --> 46:29.120 Russian girl whoops phone call for you i closed the door and decided i didn't want the tuna fish 46:29.760 --> 46:33.760 and that's it for the source code for today and her body 46:33.760 --> 46:40.400 as i told you so if you're hearing this before you voted i'm sorry one more time please 46:40.400 --> 46:46.560 go out and vote for John Kerry and uh i will bring you another dating source code tomorrow 46:46.560 --> 46:52.480 from uh amceband at the end of the day and of course on Thursday probably when i land in 46:52.560 --> 47:00.880 sentences now as always your comments and welcome i love the audio comments as much as you 47:00.880 --> 47:05.760 can track over and look so i'm sure with it so send that to atomacore.com 47:05.760 --> 47:10.400 or leave a comment on my weblog live.curry.com i'll post all of it 47:10.400 --> 47:14.640 archives and the most recent shows available at dailysourcecode.com 47:14.640 --> 47:20.000 and the podcast fingers there as well dating source code.com slash RSS. 47:20.000 --> 47:20.640 action out.