WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.000 I guess it's a very curry. 00:10.000 --> 00:12.000 And hello everybody! 00:12.000 --> 00:15.000 Once again coming to you from Curry Cottage in the UK, 00:15.000 --> 00:17.000 this is your daily source code. 00:17.000 --> 00:20.000 Today is Tuesday, November 23, 2004. 00:20.000 --> 00:22.000 Long night! 00:22.000 --> 00:23.000 How y'all doing? 00:23.000 --> 00:25.000 Well, that was our story. 00:25.000 --> 00:27.000 Oh, it's our first day! 00:29.000 --> 00:31.000 Friends, I am not well today. 00:31.000 --> 00:32.000 I see it. 00:34.000 --> 00:35.000 Not well. 00:35.000 --> 00:36.000 Not well. 00:36.000 --> 00:37.000 It's… 00:37.000 --> 00:40.000 I guess it's typical that I get sick right after, 00:40.000 --> 00:43.000 you know, all the heavy bits start to fall into place such as 00:43.000 --> 00:44.000 the movie. 00:44.000 --> 00:47.000 But we finally got all the stuff fed away with our animals, 00:47.000 --> 00:49.000 I woke up this morning at 5 o'clock, 00:49.000 --> 00:51.000 I was mass. 00:51.000 --> 00:54.000 And it literally have… 00:54.000 --> 01:01.000 Like some kind of one thing, like almost like pneumonia, I think it is. 01:01.000 --> 01:09.000 You know, pneumonia kind of feels like a truck hit your back. 01:09.000 --> 01:10.000 That's what I got. 01:10.000 --> 01:16.000 I've been just from that bike ride that I took on Saturday down to Starbucks. 01:16.000 --> 01:18.000 And remember when I was kind of an hour, 01:18.000 --> 01:22.000 Fudging around trying to find my way back, that's probably when that all happened. 01:22.000 --> 01:26.000 So I've been pretty much immobilized for most of the day. 01:26.000 --> 01:27.000 It's my bag. 01:27.000 --> 01:28.000 It's my shoulders. 01:28.000 --> 01:29.000 It's my chest. 01:29.000 --> 01:30.000 It's my stomach. 01:30.000 --> 01:31.000 It's completely messed up. 01:31.000 --> 01:34.000 Not that you want any details on that. 01:34.000 --> 01:37.000 So I kind of hung around a little bit today. 01:37.000 --> 01:38.000 I was up really early this morning. 01:38.000 --> 01:42.000 Notice that my upload of the daily source code had not worked the way I intended it to. 01:42.000 --> 01:47.000 I'm still on the narrow band line, by the way, on the phone line, which is actually. 01:48.000 --> 01:52.000 I'm still amazed at how fast and how optimized the web is. 01:52.000 --> 01:58.000 For instance, for, you know, these, when am I getting like 40, 44k per second speed here. 01:58.000 --> 02:01.000 You know, it's, I'm amazed at that. 02:01.000 --> 02:02.000 It really am amazed at that speed. 02:02.000 --> 02:05.000 And it takes, was it to upload 21 megs. 02:05.000 --> 02:10.000 It takes about an hour and 40 minutes, now and 45, maybe a little bit, two hours. 02:10.000 --> 02:12.000 So it's not all that bad, really. 02:12.000 --> 02:16.000 But of course, that's not true because in the other hand, 02:16.000 --> 02:20.000 life is just, it comes to a crawling halt if you don't have the speed. 02:20.000 --> 02:21.000 I mean, email alone. 02:21.000 --> 02:26.000 You spend so much more time dealing with, you're information when you're on a slow, 02:26.000 --> 02:30.000 low link that it's, yeah, it's really, it sucks. 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 And still the provisional line status. 02:32.000 --> 02:36.000 So we're looking at next week, Tuesday at the earliest that I'll be able to get my broad 02:36.000 --> 02:40.000 band in here, which means, of course, tomorrow, come hell or high water. 02:40.000 --> 02:44.000 I'm going to make a, uh, a stop at the Starbucks. 02:44.000 --> 02:47.000 I got a, a weeklong pass for the team mobile hotspot. 02:47.000 --> 02:49.000 Uh, it's like 30 pounds. 02:49.000 --> 02:54.000 So, yeah, it was, it was better than, if I able to go there two days and just get two hours 02:54.000 --> 02:57.000 worth each time, then it would be the same amount or more. 02:57.000 --> 03:02.000 Um, and I'm Jones and man, I'm so Jones and for podcasts, because that's the one thing that 03:02.000 --> 03:04.000 just does not work on the dial-up line. 03:04.000 --> 03:05.000 No way. 03:05.000 --> 03:07.000 So it's, yeah, it sucks. 03:07.000 --> 03:09.000 Really, really, really sucks. 03:09.000 --> 03:11.000 And then you add to that, they're not feeling well. 03:11.000 --> 03:13.000 Anyway, so what do we do today? 03:14.000 --> 03:17.000 Um, oh, we, uh, we opened up a bank account. 03:17.000 --> 03:18.000 Or at least we started. 03:18.000 --> 03:22.000 And you can't do anything here, as, you know, as probably is the same almost everywhere. 03:22.000 --> 03:28.000 Um, unless you, uh, unless you have some kind of credit history, you have something built up, 03:28.000 --> 03:32.000 uh, something you can point to that says, yeah, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a guy that you 03:32.000 --> 03:37.000 want to, uh, rent a cell phone to give a cell phone contract, you know, stuff like that. 03:37.000 --> 03:38.000 It's just a minor stuff. 03:38.000 --> 03:43.000 So we're really, you know, uh, enjoying the pioneering of it. 03:43.000 --> 03:48.000 Um, it's, uh, uh, you know, just figuring out new stuff, um, the whole new culture, a whole new country. 03:48.000 --> 03:49.000 It's exactly what we wanted. 03:49.000 --> 03:51.000 This is exactly what we wanted. 03:51.000 --> 03:52.000 Um, and you know what? 03:52.000 --> 03:54.000 It's fucking tired, exactly what we expected. 03:54.000 --> 03:56.000 It's tiring to go through this right now. 03:56.000 --> 03:57.000 But it's going to be great. 03:57.000 --> 03:59.000 And we're, uh, we're really enjoying ourselves. 03:59.000 --> 04:02.000 And we're just enjoying the culture, totally. 04:02.000 --> 04:05.000 Um, part of that culture, of course, is driving on the left hand side of the road. 04:05.000 --> 04:07.000 Now I have a, uh, left hand drive. 04:07.000 --> 04:10.000 So I'm sitting on the left hand side of the car. 04:10.000 --> 04:14.000 It's an Audi, uh, that I've, you know, that I had in, uh, in Holland and in Belgium. 04:14.000 --> 04:16.000 And there's another year left on the lease. 04:16.000 --> 04:19.000 So I figured just, you know, drive around in it here until it's, uh, 04:19.000 --> 04:20.000 into like, and bring it back. 04:20.000 --> 04:22.000 Um, thank goodness. 04:22.000 --> 04:25.000 It has a great GPS system built into it. 04:25.000 --> 04:27.000 I mean, really, uh, detail DVD. 04:27.000 --> 04:33.000 So it, you know, if you fuck up and you, uh, or as we say, if you cock up and you, uh, 04:33.000 --> 04:37.000 uh, and you miss your turn, which is very, uh, possible. 04:37.000 --> 04:40.000 I hold on, uh, what did my software update just said? 04:40.000 --> 04:44.000 You should update airport software, bluetooth module, firmware, iCal. 04:44.000 --> 04:48.000 iPod update or uh-oh, what's in the iPod update or? 04:48.000 --> 04:53.000 Let's see, compatibility with iTunes 4.7, iTunes music store, 04:53.000 --> 04:56.000 shuffle and play song library with one click. 04:56.000 --> 04:58.000 The hell does that mean? 04:58.000 --> 05:00.000 Create multiple on the go play lists. 05:01.000 --> 05:03.000 To lead songs from the on the go play list. 05:03.000 --> 05:04.000 Okay. 05:04.000 --> 05:07.000 Select reading playback speed for audiobooks. 05:07.000 --> 05:10.000 Hey, check that out. 05:10.000 --> 05:13.000 I wonder if it's fast and slow. 05:13.000 --> 05:16.000 Here, click wheel, clicker through the headphones. 05:16.000 --> 05:19.000 Ooh, I love that, baby. 05:19.000 --> 05:24.000 Sync and go with improved disconnect performance. 05:24.000 --> 05:25.000 Sync and go. 05:25.000 --> 05:28.000 Now with improved disconnect iTunes. 05:28.000 --> 05:29.000 Oh, wait. 05:29.000 --> 05:30.000 Here we go. 05:30.000 --> 05:32.000 iPod update or 2004. 05:32.000 --> 05:35.000 Now, Sync and go with improved disconnect performance. 05:35.000 --> 05:36.000 You need it. 05:36.000 --> 05:38.000 Now. 05:38.000 --> 05:40.000 I don't think so. 05:40.000 --> 05:41.000 Not for 20 megs. 05:41.000 --> 05:43.000 I kind of do that on my phone line. 05:43.000 --> 05:44.000 Boeys. 05:44.000 --> 05:45.000 Morning. 05:45.000 --> 05:47.000 Um, so back to driving left. 05:47.000 --> 05:52.000 Baron, uh, has a theory about why they drive on the left hand side of the road in the UK. 05:52.000 --> 05:56.000 Um, he says during revolutionary war, the colonists move their channel markers, 05:56.000 --> 05:59.000 markers from marking the entrances to harbors, ports. 05:59.000 --> 06:03.000 So that it was safe to stay on the right side of the marker, the British and previously 06:03.000 --> 06:09.000 the colonists, the colonists, rode their boats on the left side of the marker to stay safe. 06:09.000 --> 06:13.000 Thus, when the British tried to attack by ships coming through the channel, they grounded 06:13.000 --> 06:15.000 their boats by going left. 06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 So chock it up to a sneaky Americans. 06:17.000 --> 06:19.000 Oh, that's an interesting theory there, actually. 06:19.000 --> 06:23.000 Yeah, I still like the one where, you know, if you're riding along and there's a rival 06:23.000 --> 06:26.000 that might come up on horseback that, you know, you want to be able to chop his head off 06:26.000 --> 06:29.000 or at least jost him off his horse and you do that with your right hand. 06:29.000 --> 06:33.000 So it's easier to be driving left or riding left. 06:33.000 --> 06:41.000 Um, Martin, uh, from green dragon online.co.uk has a different take quite simple while we're driving 06:41.000 --> 06:42.000 the left. 06:42.000 --> 06:44.000 All our cars are right hand drive. 06:44.000 --> 06:48.000 If we drove on the right, we wouldn't be able to see the traffic lights and directional signpost. 06:49.000 --> 06:51.000 Oh, hold on. 06:51.000 --> 06:53.000 I had an audio comment about left hand driving. 06:53.000 --> 06:58.000 Let me just open that up from, uh, the podcast show notes. 06:58.000 --> 07:00.000 I have no idea who this was from. 07:00.000 --> 07:01.000 Let's check it out. 07:01.000 --> 07:06.000 On another note, I was listening to, uh, Adam Curry's daily source code. 07:06.000 --> 07:08.000 And he, of course, he's in the UK now. 07:08.000 --> 07:14.000 And he was talking about getting used to driving on the left hand side of the road. 07:14.000 --> 07:16.000 And I just have to relate a story. 07:16.000 --> 07:20.000 A number of years ago, I was living in Guam. 07:20.000 --> 07:23.000 And, uh, traveling a lot to Japan. 07:23.000 --> 07:27.000 And, uh, Guam, they drive on the right hand side of the road, of course, in Japan. 07:27.000 --> 07:31.000 They've been driving on the left hand side, which everybody says is the right way to drive. 07:31.000 --> 07:37.000 But, you know, I, I mean, American, I, I much prefer to drive on the right hand side. 07:37.000 --> 07:39.000 And you can always tell when you're in Japan. 07:39.000 --> 07:44.000 And there's a new, uh, a new driver because they are, they are the ones that, uh, 07:44.000 --> 07:45.000 they pull up to a light. 07:45.000 --> 07:49.000 And, uh, instead of their, uh, uh, uh, uh, turn a single coming on. 07:49.000 --> 07:53.000 They're windshield wifers start, uh, spiking back and forth. 07:53.000 --> 07:54.000 Then when it's not even raining. 07:54.000 --> 07:58.000 I mean, that's a good indication that you've got a newly driver across from you. 07:58.000 --> 07:59.000 Or even next to you. 07:59.000 --> 08:01.000 And I've been guilty of it a few times. 08:01.000 --> 08:03.000 But I've been traveling back and forth a lot. 08:03.000 --> 08:07.000 And actually, it's been like two months in Japan. 08:07.000 --> 08:12.000 And, uh, so my car had been parked at the, uh, 08:12.000 --> 08:15.000 a long-term parking in Guam. 08:15.000 --> 08:19.000 And I arrived back and I got to, got the car started just fine. 08:19.000 --> 08:21.000 And everything was good and it was dark. 08:21.000 --> 08:24.000 And I get out on the road and, you know, I got my lights on. 08:24.000 --> 08:26.000 And I'm looking down the street. 08:26.000 --> 08:31.000 And there's this guy coming down the street on the wrong side of the street. 08:31.000 --> 08:32.000 I don't think of myself. 08:32.000 --> 08:34.000 Who is this knucklehead? 08:34.000 --> 08:36.000 This is on the wrong side of the street. 08:36.000 --> 08:39.000 So I start flashing my lights at the guy. 08:39.000 --> 08:43.000 And, and I'm finally, I'm trying to think, what in the world? 08:43.000 --> 08:45.000 You know, we're going to have a collision here. 08:45.000 --> 08:47.000 And it dawned on me. 08:47.000 --> 08:49.000 Hey, dumbass. 08:49.000 --> 08:51.000 You're the one that's on the wrong side of the road. 08:51.000 --> 08:52.000 It's a boy on the road. 08:52.000 --> 08:55.000 I had become so accustomed to driving on the left hand side of the road. 08:55.000 --> 08:57.000 Because when I pulled all that parking lot, 08:57.000 --> 09:01.000 I immediately got in the left hand lane and started trucking down the street 09:01.000 --> 09:05.000 without even, you know, subconsciously thinking that, you know, 09:05.000 --> 09:07.000 this guy that's coming at me, you know, it wasn't me. 09:07.000 --> 09:08.000 It was him, you know. 09:08.000 --> 09:10.000 It was, it was pretty funny. 09:10.000 --> 09:12.000 So if Adam, if you're listening to the show, 09:12.000 --> 09:14.000 when I may send you this clip, 09:14.000 --> 09:18.000 don't be surprised if you make a few mistakes. 09:18.000 --> 09:22.000 So when they're getting used to driving on the left hand side of the street. 09:22.000 --> 09:24.000 Oh, yeah. 09:24.000 --> 09:26.000 Oh, yeah, baby. 09:26.000 --> 09:28.000 Actually, that's what I really like about the Audi. 09:28.000 --> 09:30.000 It's the 4.2 liter show. 09:30.000 --> 09:32.000 The roundabout to the scariest thing. 09:32.000 --> 09:33.000 You know, you get into the roundabout. 09:33.000 --> 09:35.000 And you're going to left hand side. 09:35.000 --> 09:36.000 And you just, you know, 09:36.000 --> 09:39.000 that's, you want to have a car that can accelerate quick at that moment. 09:39.000 --> 09:40.000 You know, so you just like, 09:40.000 --> 09:41.000 I think it's great. 09:41.000 --> 09:42.000 Go. 09:42.000 --> 09:45.000 I did that in New York once. 09:45.000 --> 09:46.000 I drove everyone home. 09:46.000 --> 09:47.000 I was like, three in the morning, 09:47.000 --> 09:50.000 but working on a pitch at think new ideas. 09:50.000 --> 09:52.000 And I can't remember what Avenue it is. 09:52.000 --> 09:54.000 I turned right on. 09:54.000 --> 09:57.000 But I turned right onto something that was totally not possible 09:57.000 --> 10:01.000 because they were, they were most of an eight cars all coming at us. 10:01.000 --> 10:03.000 They're like, just changed as well. 10:03.000 --> 10:05.000 I turned up the wrong way out of one way. 10:05.000 --> 10:09.000 Straight at his quite a frightening, frightening thing to see. 10:09.000 --> 10:13.000 Hey, email from yourtmentink. 10:13.000 --> 10:15.000 I guess he's Dutch. 10:15.000 --> 10:16.000 Yourtmentink.com. 10:16.000 --> 10:18.000 Okay, that doesn't say anything about his background. 10:18.000 --> 10:21.000 But he sent me a clip. 10:21.000 --> 10:26.000 He says that Amy Poolor performed a nice little boing. 10:26.000 --> 10:29.000 On last Saturdays, Saturday Night Live. 10:29.000 --> 10:30.000 Check it out. 10:30.000 --> 10:32.000 Pfizer has agreed to pull its wild thing. 10:32.000 --> 10:34.000 Viagra television ads Monday. 10:34.000 --> 10:37.000 After the FDA complained that they made the impenence drug 10:37.000 --> 10:39.000 sound like a recreational sex aid. 10:39.000 --> 10:43.000 And not the preferred form of grandma abuse that it is. 10:43.000 --> 10:47.000 They've also decided... 10:47.000 --> 10:52.000 Pfizer has also decided to drop the idea of changing the name of the drug 10:52.000 --> 10:55.000 to boing. 10:55.000 --> 10:57.000 That was a good one. 10:57.000 --> 11:00.000 The drug to boing. 11:01.000 --> 11:04.000 She really got it down. 11:04.000 --> 11:06.000 Didn't she? 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 Oh, man. 11:08.000 --> 11:09.000 You know, you know. 11:09.000 --> 11:11.000 We're going to get that. 11:11.000 --> 11:14.000 We're going to be changing the name of the drug to boing. 11:17.000 --> 11:18.000 Excellent. 11:18.000 --> 11:21.000 Okay, time for some tunes on your daily source code. 11:21.000 --> 11:22.000 This is a mashup. 11:22.000 --> 11:25.000 Something that you'll never see a fisher released. 11:26.000 --> 11:29.000 It's done by a... 11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 A... 11:30.000 --> 11:33.000 It was to say a quote, band called Bittalica. 11:33.000 --> 11:37.000 The bassley mashup, the Beatles, and the tower. 11:37.000 --> 11:39.000 You'll get it. 11:39.000 --> 11:41.000 You'll dig it. 11:41.000 --> 11:42.000 It... 11:42.000 --> 11:43.000 It... 11:43.000 --> 11:44.000 You... 11:44.000 --> 11:46.000 It's true not... 11:46.000 --> 11:47.000 See... 11:47.000 --> 17:51.250 [ Music ] 17:53.040 --> 17:57.240 All right, just...just-how cool is that? 17:57.240 --> 18:07.480 Vitalik is hey dude on the daily source code for Tuesday November 23rd, 2004 coming to you from the UK from the region of Seren 18:08.920 --> 18:11.560 Man, I gotta stop doing it again. I gotta stop doing it 18:13.240 --> 18:18.600 But what's cool about people not knowing me here, which is just cool by itself, you know being 18:20.280 --> 18:24.360 Coming from celebrity status to zero is fucking awesome 18:25.160 --> 18:30.680 You know you can have so much fun with people and you know there's they have no preconceived notions about you or you know 18:31.000 --> 18:36.200 Who you are what you are or what you what you're about and so the set first impression. I like playing with that 18:36.200 --> 18:37.480 It's it's cool 18:37.480 --> 18:39.800 I have a lot of fun over here in 18:39.800 --> 18:41.080 You know new digs 18:41.080 --> 18:44.440 I've been right played the lascivious bitties yesterday for you. This is 18:45.560 --> 18:51.640 The band from New York this girls have a very very very typical sound and we've been in touch for a couple of years 18:51.640 --> 18:54.600 I can't remember when the first time I heard about them 18:56.840 --> 18:59.160 Shoot I Patricia even remembered 18:59.720 --> 19:02.360 But we've we've been in touch over the years and Leanne 19:02.920 --> 19:05.960 Aliana Westover. It says she was really happy actually 19:06.520 --> 19:09.240 Overjoyed that she was playing on the daily source code 19:10.440 --> 19:12.920 Particularly because they're they're going through a rough time right now 19:12.920 --> 19:16.680 They were on a trip to Boston. I guess they're playing some gigs over the weekend 19:16.680 --> 19:23.160 So I'm broken to the room. They were sleeping in stole diggers keyboard and a keyboard amp a man does new Brian more guitar and 19:23.960 --> 19:27.960 Unfortunately Leanne's not backed up lately laptop 19:28.200 --> 19:31.240 That does totally freaking bite I hate that 19:32.200 --> 19:37.160 But she goes on to say that and of course all these emails are in the in the show notes 19:37.720 --> 19:43.960 She says I'm renting out a room for the holidays or someone who who says that you wrote the email tour 19:44.600 --> 19:50.280 Not only your cool because you gave us a great deal on the room, but not even cooler because you were played on the daily source code 19:53.240 --> 19:56.280 And you know my my radio mentor Lex Harding 19:57.400 --> 19:59.080 Who was a one of the original 19:59.800 --> 20:06.200 Broadcasters on the pirate radio stations on the North Sea back in the very early 70s even the late 60s 20:06.200 --> 20:07.240 I think 20:07.240 --> 20:12.760 Went on to found the public broadcast of Veronica television. He's done a lot of a lot of radio stuff 20:13.080 --> 20:17.400 But he even sent me an SMS the other day and said wow, you know like I got some guy 20:17.400 --> 20:24.680 I know from Singapore who listens to your podcast every day. It's just cool. It's really getting around and um, and oh, yeah, there was a 20:27.000 --> 20:29.800 I just posted that on an I potted out org 20:30.360 --> 20:33.400 There was a an article in the London Times 20:34.040 --> 20:36.600 podcast in the next the next the next big thing so 20:37.320 --> 20:38.680 Just moving 20:38.840 --> 20:42.840 Anyway, back to the city as bitties and we'll get back to the UK in a second in the BBC 20:44.440 --> 20:49.960 I feel really bad about you know when your shit gets stolen that is just so that really really really sucks 20:51.640 --> 20:55.480 Yes, that I played I want to be famous which is one of my favorite tracks off their new album 20:55.480 --> 21:00.120 This is something though even though it's totally not the kind of music this tracking when it played with it by the city as bitties 21:00.520 --> 21:01.720 It's not 21:01.720 --> 21:06.120 It's not really the type of music that I'm into but there's something about it that just you know 21:06.680 --> 21:12.360 I can't help but sing along with the song. It's very a country in western, but then again you don't hear enough of that on radio 21:12.360 --> 21:17.480 Anyway, do you use Texas girl the busbiest bitties on the daily source code 21:20.120 --> 21:22.120 Oh 21:23.750 --> 23:36.280 [ Music ] 23:36.280 --> 23:44.520 Take Texas out of the girl everybody now you have Texas girl 23:45.000 --> 23:47.560 The Civius Bitties on your daily source code 23:48.760 --> 23:52.920 Okay, let me see you want to talk about oh of course I want to plug the the BBC culture show 23:53.720 --> 24:00.040 Since it's coming up on Thursday and you know the way iPodders work and the way it works with me uploading and time differences 24:00.600 --> 24:06.280 Everything like that it'll be online they do have an archive that's up for cut the 24:06.280 --> 24:14.040 BPS do is BBC is doing some interesting things these days and they aren't they do seem to be keeping archives up for a couple of days of of most of their or a lot of their stuff 24:14.760 --> 24:17.640 So it's on Thursday BBC to the culture show 24:18.600 --> 24:23.080 7 p.m. I got a lovely email from Colin the producer 24:23.640 --> 24:31.160 I don't came in if I told you about that yesterday, but he says they cut it down from nine minutes to six minutes or not he but the powers that be 24:32.520 --> 24:36.520 And what he said that he was he really was really happy with it. So we'll see what happens now 24:36.520 --> 24:39.480 I was just reading in the Guardian and by a man 24:40.440 --> 24:45.880 Compared to Holland and Belgium the UK what a what a newspaper country. There's so many different newspapers 24:46.600 --> 24:49.000 And the Guardian of course I know from online and 24:49.960 --> 24:56.380 And I picked up the copy the Guardian and the BBC is in the midst of a huge huge huge 24:56.380 --> 24:57.380 shake up 24:57.380 --> 25:04.440 There's I think the number was 27,000 people work for the beat 27,000 people work for the BBC 25:05.400 --> 25:14.200 Now they do have a lot of a lot of stations and you know TV and radio and in an incarnate and all the stuff that they have to you know have to manage and fill up and 25:14.920 --> 25:21.320 You have to pay for a TV license which I still have to arrange before they serve me a warrant 25:24.360 --> 25:28.920 Which said was it made a hundred pounds or something like that so yeah, it's probably it's probably a good 25:29.960 --> 25:32.600 Close to two hundred dollars. I would say probably 25:33.560 --> 25:39.080 So you know you do kind of feel like you know, you're you want to get what you pay for and 25:39.560 --> 25:44.040 Man 27,000 people is a lot to run you know some TV and radio stations 25:45.080 --> 25:49.320 And they're talking about letting independent producers in to produce more of 25:50.040 --> 25:52.040 Of this public broadcast 25:52.600 --> 25:59.240 Programming which is commercial free obviously very high quality. I love it. I love the BBC programming. I really do 25:59.880 --> 26:03.560 And sure there's the ITV stuff and you know channel four channel five 26:04.280 --> 26:08.360 Which has the I'm a celebrity get me out of here and you know so the millionaire 26:08.360 --> 26:16.760 We want to be a millionaire and those are good too. You need some chewing gum, but man the BBC there's some awesome awesome programs on the radio as well just fabulous stuff 26:18.760 --> 26:21.560 And so my own experience as as 26:22.840 --> 26:26.440 The United Kingdom is going through this and they're trying to figure out you know what should we do and 26:27.400 --> 26:34.360 What's the what are the right moves to make clearly clearly? They have too many people working for them that is just that's an outrage 26:35.720 --> 26:42.440 But I'm a little wary about letting all these commercial independent producers in because they did that in Holland and it really sucks 26:42.440 --> 26:47.240 You know because these guys are about making money not about making necessarily not about making great television 26:48.280 --> 26:54.280 And of course the country is smaller so maybe it's harder to make a buck in in the lowlands, but 26:54.760 --> 26:59.480 You know a lower level of independent producers. I think it's good 27:00.600 --> 27:05.960 Not not too much because you really that's my experience. You're going to lose lose a lot of the good creativity 27:07.000 --> 27:10.840 But certainly the bureaucracy that is 27:12.200 --> 27:17.480 You know that makes up that amount of people working on you know on that much there's only 24 hours in a day, right? 27:18.440 --> 27:21.080 That's that's pretty amazing. So I'm following this 27:21.080 --> 27:24.040 It was really was a big article like six or seven pages and 27:25.000 --> 27:32.360 You know there's there's a lot of stake. They're also they've moved or in the throws of moving a lot of people out of London into 27:32.360 --> 27:34.360 I think it was 27:34.360 --> 27:36.360 Was it I don't have it here 27:36.760 --> 27:38.760 Manchester Birmingham 27:39.160 --> 27:45.320 I'll have to look into that but so clearly a lot of BBC history and a lot of changes going on as we speak and there as I mentioned before 27:45.320 --> 27:49.320 There's so much media going on here. You know we have the the free view which plugs 27:49.880 --> 27:54.680 Digital signals out of thin air and gives you like 30 channels for free and you can order stuff 27:54.680 --> 27:58.840 And it's just you buy a box once and that's it. No cable company nothing. It's just coming right out of the air 27:59.560 --> 28:02.920 I'm gonna get the sky box as well, which is pretty much a dish 28:03.800 --> 28:06.600 I want that in Christina's hangout room 28:07.880 --> 28:12.040 Yeah, so you know I'll be able to fill you in on on that experience 28:12.520 --> 28:14.520 um 28:16.200 --> 28:20.600 And then what else do they have and they've cable? I think we might even have cable here. I'm just gonna try and get everything 28:21.240 --> 28:23.240 But keeping a sharp eye on what's happening here 28:24.120 --> 28:29.240 With the with broadcasting in general BBC in particular and I'm really excited about 28:30.600 --> 28:34.920 a new piece of knowledge that I gained Dave wine and wrote how to 28:35.560 --> 28:37.560 um 28:38.120 --> 28:43.800 I want to say it right it was a how to extend RSS in namespaces 28:45.400 --> 28:47.880 And this is something that I've been you know 28:48.280 --> 28:54.440 Not only I but I see it on the iPod or developers list. We've been you know thinking about how can we group different kinds of 28:54.440 --> 29:00.120 Inclosures or files or you know what if you want to put in my big thing as I want to make sure that's somehow 29:00.120 --> 29:02.920 We can attach this opml show notes file 29:03.320 --> 29:09.320 To each podcast which is an MP3 and and basically 29:11.960 --> 29:19.960 I have no I had no fucking clue on how to do that and you know just a I'm just a guy who kind of put some scripts and strings and stuff together 29:20.440 --> 29:22.440 But now that I understand it 29:22.440 --> 29:29.640 It's it's really quite simple in fact. I'm gonna be working with with August and Ray who do iPod or X 29:29.640 --> 29:31.640 Which is the iPod or I use 29:32.040 --> 29:38.840 On hopefully creating a namespace either for production notes or podcasting or you know we're still kind of in 29:39.400 --> 29:41.400 Kind of figuring this out and 29:41.800 --> 29:45.800 Another when we get stuck we can and you will be able to reach out and ask for help 29:45.800 --> 29:50.440 I'm hoping Dave's gonna watch over my shoulder. I'm sure he will make sure we get this right because 29:50.760 --> 29:57.160 It would be so cool to be able to basically make relationships between multiple things in a in a podcast feed 29:57.720 --> 30:03.880 But keeping RSS intact that that's obviously important. I've learned now how important that really is because 30:03.880 --> 30:07.800 Man you the last thing we want to do was create more work for developers, right? 30:07.800 --> 30:12.760 We want to make sure that there's one set wave doing it that we all agree on it as best as possible 30:12.760 --> 30:15.320 I'm sure that you know once we start implementing it 30:16.040 --> 30:19.560 People will we'll help us out and we'll we'll all figure it out together and 30:20.040 --> 30:24.840 And then we'll have some extra functionality in these things. I'm looking forward to that 30:25.800 --> 30:32.520 Working with those guys and I'm just needing a need of a little bit of bandwidth because that's that's really holding me back on 30:32.520 --> 30:40.520 Jumping back into the iPod or developer list and and really getting deep into stuff because it just takes so long to manage all the information 30:41.880 --> 30:44.520 And oh I forgot to say about the BBC 30:44.840 --> 30:50.680 I think that the BBC is doing more podcasting experiments than we're aware of 30:51.320 --> 30:55.080 Andrew Whitehurst sent me an email also in the podcast show notes opml 30:55.880 --> 31:01.400 He sent me a couple of links a particularly for the five live program, which is BBC five 31:01.400 --> 31:03.400 I think it's the late night show 31:03.640 --> 31:05.640 Fighting talk is that it hold on have the 31:06.280 --> 31:08.280 You were all here. I just check 31:09.640 --> 31:11.640 Oh, excuse me for my stomach 31:12.040 --> 31:17.000 Fighting talk next and I give us a weekly Punditary contest of gladiatorial 31:17.960 --> 31:24.840 Proportions hosted by christianocony so what they have here is okay. This is the deal. They have these 31:27.720 --> 31:31.560 Downloads so they're doing MP3 downloads and if you hunt around 31:32.600 --> 31:41.400 Basically trying on different URLs that end in dot XML you'll find that a lot of these programs already have podcast feeds it's almost like there 31:41.880 --> 31:47.560 I don't know if this is a concerted effort or I mean something clearly someone is doing this someone knows what's going on 31:47.800 --> 31:52.280 And I hope that they'll reach out to us and and let us know because I really want to point to these podcasts 31:52.280 --> 31:54.280 I mean this is the stuff that 31:54.280 --> 32:00.600 You know, this is if we can get all that BBC programming in in podcast form and maybe the stuff that 32:01.000 --> 32:06.920 Doesn't make it on the air. Wow. I mean when it comes to radio BBC totally has that down 32:08.440 --> 32:10.440 And 32:11.480 --> 32:15.960 Just wanted to mention that Linux questions.org is also working at a podcast thanks to 32:17.240 --> 32:18.760 Martin for 32:18.760 --> 32:22.280 Learning me to that by email and one last 32:23.480 --> 32:26.120 I potter feed. I think you should subscribe to 32:27.080 --> 32:29.320 Which I put a link to the 32:30.280 --> 32:36.920 To the RSS 2.0 feed in the show notes is I potio and I potio is interesting 32:37.480 --> 32:40.680 because it's basically a collection of 32:42.120 --> 32:49.480 Audio that can be freely used and redistributed so it's sometimes it's the president's address the weekly radio address 32:49.480 --> 32:54.600 You know, I never go to whitehouse.gov and click on that, you know, so I'd love that coming in automatically 32:55.720 --> 32:57.720 There's voice of America reports 32:58.280 --> 33:05.640 All kinds of just different interesting things and the guy that runs this I think yeah, this is so I'm thinking of actually we we spoke on Skype a while back 33:06.280 --> 33:08.280 as a Thomas I think 33:08.920 --> 33:10.920 Real fuzzy so I apologize 33:11.480 --> 33:13.480 If I got that wrong 33:13.480 --> 33:20.280 He has a like a medium size ISP and he's well, he's looking for ways to fill up his pipe and I think I potio is great 33:20.280 --> 33:21.480 So there's a link to that 33:21.480 --> 33:23.480 From the show notes. 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