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And it's Curry!

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The power of the Lord is
always...

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And...

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And all everybody!

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How you doing? Welcome to the
Daily Source Code.

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It is Friday evening.

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And God, it's Friday.

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It's November 26th, 2004.

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Coming to you from Curry
Cottage.

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Good Daily Source Code.

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The power of the Lord is
always...

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As you probably noticed, I
managed to skip a day for a
podcasting.

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Although I didn't really intend
to do it.

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But it kind of finniggled my way
through...

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Thanksgiving.

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And now is it...

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Thanksgiving?

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Or is it thanksgiving?

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Because...

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I don't know.

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But that's my family.

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Like cousins.

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Always say thanksgiving.

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And I've been saying
thanksgiving.

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So...

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It's awesome.

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It's like...

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It doesn't matter who I'm
thankful you're here.

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Users and developers party
together on the Source Code.

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We got stuff to talk about
today.

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Including some cool stuff.

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It turns.

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It turns.

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Power of the Lord.

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Power of the Lord.

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Power of the Lord.

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Power of the Lord.

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We do it.

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So I spent some time at my
favorite hangout today in town.

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That's Starbucks.

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Downloaded a whole bunch of
podcasts.

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Which I'll need because I'm off
a little journey tomorrow.

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I'm going to the Netherlands and
Belgium.

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Check up on the castle.

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Which is just about to be handed
over to the new owners.

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I don't know if my mail was sick
when something's coming.

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Because it actually turned off
when I'm going to podcast.

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And it's on my checklist.

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You know, turn off iPodder when
you're podcasting.

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Power of the Lord.

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And maybe you should turn off
email or write it as well.

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Okay.

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It is time for a garbage show of
robotic.

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And the...

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Wait a minute.

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I had something new, especially
I wanted to use here because...

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Here you go.

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This is the Michigan drum
cadence part of the...

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None RIA music that we play here
on the show.

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This came through...

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I guess I'm still on email.

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I think there's even a podcast
coming out.

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A drum podcast.

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Check this out for a second.

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It was really rock.

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Yeah.

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Pop it up.

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You know, they don't have that
almost anywhere else in the
world.

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But in the United States, they
have drum bands that swing the
way American drum bands do.

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I don't think they've ever seen
a drum band in any other country
during this sport

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or a half-time or anything like
that.

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This is...

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It's nice.

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Michigan drum cadence.

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Okay.

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So that was just a little bit of
drums there for you.

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Okay.

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Let's see what's happening.

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A lot of responses today from
the culture show, which aired on
BBC 2.

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Last night, Thursday night,
which was the way we celebrated
Thanksgiving here

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in the cottage in the UK.

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We had our nice turkey dinner.

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We had a TV turkey dinner,
Patricia Christina and I.

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And at 7 o'clock, the culture
show came on.

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I should actually find out how
many people watched it because
the viewing numbers here are

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it's nice.

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You can get millions of people
watching the BBC easily.

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And it was a pretty good time, I
guess.

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Yeah, I guess the time slot was
good.

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They started off with something
about some Welsh cultural
centrum.

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Which I hope people didn't
immediately go,

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which is apple way.

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It was marginally interesting
for me.

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But we were at like item number
two all-out podcasting.

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I was extremely happy with the
way it turned out again.

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Kudos to Colin and his crew who
put that all together.

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There is a...

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Now the website itself,
BBC.co.uk slash arts slash
culture show.

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Didn't have a archive video up
yet.

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And even worse, I'm not quite
sure how this happened,

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but they put a link to
podcast.org,

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which is a site that hasn't been
maintained since October 20th.

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And I've contacted the owner.

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And I said, hey, why don't you
just redirect it.

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He doesn't want to sell it.

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That's fine.

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Just redirected to iPod or
please put a link up or
something.

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So people are basically going
into a big void.

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And I don't understand how the
BBC could have messed that up.

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You know, somewhere someone's
not thinking.

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And hopefully if someone's
listening, they'll change that.

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I know that people have sent
emails to the beep to the...

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Oh, here.

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Let me hear me there.

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The beep.

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That's my... I'm getting
localized here.

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People sent emails saying that
they definitely have the wrong
site

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that they're pointing to.

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So on iPod.org, I put up a link
to a torn file.

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And it's a really high quality
MP4,

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which is immediately a problem
because

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I think that there's no standard
player on Windows for MP4 files.

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But you can get... and by now
people have responded.

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Just look in the comments and I
pot it out.

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Or they've responded to software
you can use to check out MP4.

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On the Mac quick time doesn't
automatically.

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And it's beautiful.

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It's a really high res 16 by 9.

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So it's a... it's the wide
screen format.

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And I thought it would probably
be of some benefit

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to people who haven't seen it,
to at least be able to listen to
it.

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And that's easy enough for me to
set up for you

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because I've got it here.

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I'm just going to play it.

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It is about six minutes.

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So if you've already seen it,
you can skip ahead.

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But I kind of enjoyed listening
to it for the second time and
watching it.

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So let's put it on right now.

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Again, this is from the BBC's
Culture Show.

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This is the segment on
podcasting.

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Enjoy.

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Now, here's a new term for you.

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Pod casting.

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At the moment, it's something
enjoyed by a small

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but rapidly growing group of
internet enthusiasts.

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And it could change the way that
we all experience radio.

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It works something like this.

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Anyone anywhere, amateurs we're
talking about,

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can record a radio program and
then post it on the internet

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from where it can be downloaded
onto any portable player

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in particular an iPod hence the
name.

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So you go on the web when you
check out

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or you find the kind of show you
might be interested in,

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music, discussion, gardening,
then you download it

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whenever you want in order to
listen to it whenever you want.

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It's a sign of the time sign of
things to come

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and it should.

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I'm sure strike Tara into the
hearts of all the radio networks

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who are trying to hang on to
their listenership.

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Zina Sara Weaver has been
listening in herself.

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Pod casting.

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Well, it's coming up on 6.20
coming to you from Flanders
Belgium

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from Curry Castle, almost live.

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It is the Bailey source code.

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And God, it's Friday, everybody.

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The technology in the ability to
make

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do it yourself internet radio
has been around for a while

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and if you know you're way
around a computer

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and have the time then you can
download MP3 files

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but what Pod casting has done is
make it easy and automatic.

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If you subscribe to a Pod cast

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it automatically downloads any
new shows

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onto your portable MP3 player or
iPod, hence the name.

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And off you go.

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Take away time shifted radio to
enjoy

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wherever and whenever you want.

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It's one little piece of
software you downloaded

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and the magic begins.

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Hey, everybody.

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It's Donna Drew Show for
November 14, 2004.

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I'm Donna Sally.

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You subscribe to a number of
shows

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and there's a directory of five
or six hundred shows already.

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You pick and choose, you can
sample the few things

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and then basically you forget
about it.

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Welcome to Tokyo Calling for
Thursday, November 3rd, 2004.

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The beauty of Pod casting is
that it's just user-friendly,
right?

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Plug it in, subscribe, there's
your content.

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Hello, wherever you are and
welcome to a week with a big
win.

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This only started three months
ago.

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I start off with maybe ten
people

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subscribing to my daily show.

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Now it's up to 50,000.

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The idea of portable radio on
demand,

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dropped onto a device I just
picked up in the morning from
its cradle

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and take away with me.

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That's a really important idea.

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Good, that's out of the way.

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iPods, MP3 players and the
introduction of 3G phones

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have enabled us to listen to our
entire music collection

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where we want and when we want.

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Pod casting allows you the same
with radio.

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I've come to Belgium to meet web
millionaire and Pod casting
Daddy

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Adam Curry.

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Welcome everybody here to Daily
Source Code.

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It was Adam who first had
together the programming

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that made Pod casting possible.

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We're Pod casting now.

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You're Pod right now and how
much subscribers you have?

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50,000 more or less.

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So I post casting to 50,000.

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At least.

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At least.

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At least.

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We have last count 592 podcasts
in the directory.

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And that's by no means
everything.

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Every single day there's new
podcasts pop, popping up.

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I just added radio for it to the
directory.

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That just happened this morning
so it's going so incredibly
fast.

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Just a captain deal.

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I think I'm going to be reading
the raven.

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There's a lot of stuff out
there.

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But it's certainly not as slick
as Adam's.

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There's a certain knife charm
about some of the radio
programs.

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And it gets some interesting
humorous, some wacky and odd
stuff.

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But it just makes me really
interesting listen on the,

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the training on the mornings.

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Today's the day we learn who our
new leader is or we don't.

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This woman who does the tap
dancing podcaster news.

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At least we know the turnout
will be heavy.

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No one really knows who she is.

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I think she's a newscaster who's
been fired from a couple of
jobs.

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So she's totally right for pod
casting.

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Podcaster.

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Yeah.

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This is one of my favorite ones
coverville.

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The vapors, the hollies and Hank
Williams senior coming up
tonight on Coverville.

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There's a podcast that I've tell
Keaton Alaska.

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Guy is wife living in this 12 by
12 cabin.

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Yeah.

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I just got back.

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I'm running late.

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I can't even click directly.

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A lot of it's just American talk
radio done by Geeks.

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So you can imagine a lot of
stuff they're talking about.

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It's like how to write great
open source software and other

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since letting topics like that.

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It was written by three kids
sitting in a garage.

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And they said, well, we can part
this over to an animal,

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Macintosh.

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The world of pod casting with
joysticks and it's amateur
status.

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It's chaotic, it then provides.

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That's its charm, though.

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Thing is it's growing really
fast.

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And the big boys have started to
take notice of it.

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Some public radio stations in
America regularly pod cast
editions of their shows.

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The BBC have tried it out.

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Pod casting in addition of
Melvin Bragg's radio for program
in our time.

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Commercial, music-based radio is
also something around.

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But for them, it presents some
challenges.

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The music radio will be as
terrified as this as the labels
were of peer-to-peer file
sharing

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and illegal downloads, because
the undermines their basic
economic model.

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Music radio is basically funded
by advertising.

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Anybody who's got an iPod will
just zip through the ads.

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He's fast forwarded, why
wouldn't you?

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So if you sit in our independent
radio thinking,

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that's the way of extending my
reach.

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That's the way of getting a new
audience.

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I want to be tied to this
incredibly cool piece of
technology.

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But they're not going to use
their heads.

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So what do I do?

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Radio has not been challenged.

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The way magazines have and
newspapers and television.

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iPod alone, 6 million units
sold.

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That's Apple's numbers.

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MP3 players in general, 30
million.

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The next cell phones will have
600 million MP3 players just
waiting for something to put on
them.

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So there was an incredible void
just waiting to be filled up.

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The feature could be absolutely
huge.

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But if and when established
radio stations muscle in,

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let's still be room for
podcasting's amateur pioneers.

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Some of the stuff go fall by the
way side.

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But it doesn't mean that that's
better than the Don Andru show

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or the rock and roll geek show
or the Engagit podcast.

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It's all different forms of
entertainment.

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And it's really equalizes it.

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Everyone can party along.

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And we want everyone to party
along.

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Zena Sarawira reporting.

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And if you want to listen to
some of those podcasts yourself,

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there's more information on our
website.

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Yeah.

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Boy you own, yo you own your are
you own yourself,

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excellent piece.

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And just watching that again,

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reminded me,

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just how cool it is to see our
listeners.

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You know, almost every single
voice shared closer to a

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call, like who is he was it was
titles UK podcaster,

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very cool.

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Was a listener.

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And you saw people on the train
and the buses in the sub way.

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And there was one guy, the new
Media consultant.

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Um, he said something, and I, of
course, I, you know, the, the
BBC was at my house for seven
hours, you know, so there was a
lot of stuff that they, well,
they just physically couldn't
put it into the, into the time
that they had, but he was
talking about how the
traditional guys, the, the
traditional radio broadcasts
should be freaked out about this
or are going to be freaked out
about podcasting the way record
companies are freaked out about
peer-to-peer file sharing,
because they, under my, he says,
quote, it undermines their basic
financial model.

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Um, where people can skip ahead
past the commercials, and we
discussed that in the interview,
and it's okay that it's not in
there because it gives me a
chance to talk about it again.

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What, I mean, this is a really
big concept, right? Um, if we
had commercials and podcasts,
what if we actually made the
commercials interesting, huh?

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What if they didn't have to be
30 seconds and with the, or 20
seconds with a 10-second tag?
What if we actually had
interesting advertisements
instead of prepackaged stuff?

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You know, I predict that people
wouldn't skip past them. I
predict they'd listen to them
again, and maybe again, and pass
them around and say, wow, listen
to this entertaining
advertisement.

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I think we have that part
figured out. I really do. Don
and Drew are leading the way.
They did their first paid
advertisement before the, the
elections.

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Um, but whatever, excellent,
excellent piece. I'm really
pleased with that. Of course,
there's, you know, so much that,
you know, they didn't talk about
the podcasting is based on, on
RSS and, you know, the basically
us podcasts are standing on the
shoulders of giants who created
all this wonderful
infrastructure for us to, to run
it all on.

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So, okay, but you can't have it
all. Still, I'm very happy. And
the response has just been
overwhelming. Unfortunately, a
lot of people couldn't leave
comments on my weblog because I
use a,

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I use a vanilla site for updates
and for a comment. Sorry. And an
update came through on the
vanilla server, which basically
broke my comments.

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Thank you very much, Marcus, for
figuring out how to fix that.
That was definitely a dig.
Certainly on Turkey day, but I
really, I was happy to get my
comments up and rolling again,
but people said plenty of email.
So, thank you very much. And
again, thank you BBC. That was,
that was great. And we welcome
more BBC podcasts guys.
Certainly, you know, don't let,

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you know, this, this one
podcast, you know, that you had
on a radio for, don't let that
be the only one. And I know,
because I found some, some
websites, I'm a little reluctant
to point to them because,

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I think, BBC technicians who are
probably sitting there under the
covers, creating podcast feeds.

15:50.000 --> 16:02.000
So, you know, and I understand
that could be kind of touchy
from a, excuse me, from a
political standpoint, whatever
they're doing on the inside, but
guys, let me know. I'll totally
cover your ass.

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Now, get the podcast feeds out
there because you make some
great, great programs. Now,
while we're on the topic of BBC
in the UK, I have a couple of
observations to make that we've
been here for a little over a
week.

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Now, we know that they drive on
the left hand side of the road
here in the UK. By the way, I
have no problem with that. I've
been driving for the, for the
past week. Now, I have a right
hand side drive car, which means
I sit on the left hand side,
right?

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It isn't a little more
complicated when you're, you
know, making certain turns. You
just can't see traffic that
well. You kind of have to lean
over. So, eventually when the
least runs out on the Audi, I'll
get rid of it and I'll buy a UK
model. Oh, by the way, have you
seen the new 886.0 leader.

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I'm saving up for one of those
boy, I tell you.

16:51.000 --> 17:01.000
By the way, Audi, I'll gladly
endorse your product in my
podcast for a little barter
there for a 886.0 boy.

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I've noticed some other strange
things, and I wonder if it's
protectionism or if it's, well,
I just don't know what the
thinking is behind it.

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Let's start with televisions.
Now, it's been well known that
on broadcast, and I thought that
this has already been fixed, and
I thought that most televisions
already knew how to understand
this.

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Basically, 90% of the TVs we
brought with us. We brought
about five or six, you know,
lots of smaller sets. We like
having TVs all over the place,
kitchen, you know, etc.

17:38.000 --> 17:48.000
Can get the picture fine, but
can't get the audio. And I
remember that the BBC used to
broadcast their audio with a
different separation of their
audio.

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So you can basically hear kind
of crackling, but you can't
really get a clear audio sound.

17:53.000 --> 18:01.000
And I remember that from years
and years and years ago, putting
up home rigged antennas to
receive the BBC while living in
Holland and putting them on my
rooftop.

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Yeah, you know, it's like
Pittsburgh on the wire, let's
not only got the BBC on the TV,
and it was cool because you got
a great signal, but you could
never hear the audio.

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And I've always wondered why
that is. Why? Why would they do
that?

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Now, these days, of course, you
get cable and you plug it in and
everywhere in the world, you
receive it.

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But if your TV doesn't
understand the the English
system with their different
separation of audio channel or
whatever that works, then you're
basically hose.

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And I'm wondering why is that
why do they do that? I think
it's the only country in the
world that has that.

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Is that protectionism or is it
is there a real technological
reason? What's the history
behind it?

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I'm sure there's some geeks out
there who will help me out with
that.

18:42.000 --> 18:54.000
Number two, and this is even
though they use 220 volts over
here, which just about the
entire world uses, except for
the states, which is still 110
volts.

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And I don't know if that's
inferior or superior, I have no
idea, but they have different
plugs.

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So every single plug you have
has to be changed.

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And of course, what's happening
now is that I'm looking at TV
set saying, damn, you know, at
the change of the plug.

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It won't receive the audio throw
it out by one locally.

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We were smart enough to bring
over a whole bunch of Dutch
extension cords with, you know,
extenders with breakout boxes so
you can plug in five.

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Then basically, you only need
one converter module to plug
into the wall, but why?

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And I don't see the UK plug is
big and three pronged and ugly.

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And I do that as very safe
because something else that's
interesting on all the UK wall
sockets is there's a switch on
every single one.

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So you can switch the actual
socket off.

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That I think is probably a very
good thing, but why are they
that different size?

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And then finally, and this is
the one that I didn't know about
everywhere I've been in Europe
and in the states.

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Your light bulbs have a screw
socket.

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Here, the norm seems to be a
bayonet, which is basically too
little, too little raised
things.

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Basically, the way a car lamp
fitting works, if you're just
seeing that, you know, you push
it in, twist it 45 degrees and
then it's stuck.

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So all of the lamps we brought
over, as long as the lamps don't
burn out are fine, but the
minute the lamps go, we're
screwed because you literally
can't screw in a bulb.

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You have to get a new fitting,
so I'm wondering, what's up with
that?

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What is up with that?

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Please help me.

20:29.000 --> 20:31.000
I'm trying to understand.

20:31.000 --> 20:33.000
Otherwise, we're loving it here.

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We're having a great time.

20:34.000 --> 20:38.000
And I wanted to play a
Thanksgiving podcast for you.

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Even though it's after
Thanksgiving, it was just such a
beautiful podcast.

20:41.000 --> 20:45.000
It's Tony Khan from Morning
Stories, WGBH.

20:45.000 --> 20:51.000
And the reason why I want to
play this for you is because it
is a personal morning story
about him and about his life.

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And where he comes from, and
it's a very important piece of
American entertainment showbiz
history that is discussed in his
first Thanksgiving.

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Hi, everybody.

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It's Tony Khan, the director and
producer of Morning Stories.

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I'm sorry I got to cut you off
their Tony.

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You are a real podcast to my
friend.

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Did you hear that?

21:09.000 --> 21:10.000
He didn't ever bother.

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Hi, everybody.

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It's Tony Khan, the director and
producer of Morning Stories from
WGBHFM in Boston.

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In the true spirit of
podcasting, we're going to start
breaking a tradition right away.

21:21.000 --> 21:26.000
Normally, we podcast on Fridays
or actually Thursday, Eastern
time.

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But as soon as it's Friday,
somewhere on Earth, like Tokyo.

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But this is Thanksgiving Week.

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So we thought we'd have podcasts
before the tea day actually
comes.

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Thanksgiving is the holiday that
more Americans travel farther
for than any other holiday
during the year.

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So I thought we might tell a
morning story this morning
about,

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Well, the kind of trip that
Thanksgiving has been for me.

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Starting with my very first one
a long time ago.

21:56.000 --> 22:01.000
The first Thanksgiving I
remember was in 1947 in Beverly
Hills.

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Given a chill in the air, it
might as well have been the
North Pole.

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A month before, the House and
American Activities Committee
had accused my father and

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19 other progressive
screenwriters and directors of
being communists and traders.

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Since then, Warner Bros. refused
to renew my father's contract,
and no one was calling with
work.

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He'd been blacklisted, and knew
he'd never see another paycheck
unless he cooperated with a
committee,

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recanted his views, and informed
on all his friends.

22:30.000 --> 22:35.000
Instead, that Thanksgiving he
invited them all to a feast with
two turkeys,

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tons of trimmings, and a small
fortune in fine wine and liquor.

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I remember how noisy the
grownups were that day.

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They're jeers at the committee.

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They're cheers of support for
the 19 blacklisted men.

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And through it all, my father,
lifting everyone spirits,
sweeping up the ladies in a
tango.

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And a dessert, gracefully
jiggling a chocolate pudding on
his palm.

22:57.000 --> 23:01.000
A display that not only
confirmed his reputation for
irreverence,

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but concealed the fatigue and
chest pain that had been
troubling him for weeks.

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He was quite a performance for
all of them.

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For beneath the hilarity, lay
silence and fear,

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19 of them had already lost
their living for having the
wrong political ideas.

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Who would be next?

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And how well would any of them
hold up to the hard realities of
being jobless and Hollywood,

23:24.000 --> 23:29.000
or the soft persuasions of the
committee that all you had to do
to clear your name

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was called someone else, a red.

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When you think of it, it was a
classic American Thanksgiving,

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a gathering in a wilderness with
a common determination to ride
out the winter together.

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Are you a member of the
Communist Party?

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Or have you ever been a member
of the Communist Party?

23:44.000 --> 23:46.000
I now know what no one knew
then.

23:46.000 --> 23:50.000
That the winter of that cold war
would last over 20 years.

23:50.000 --> 23:52.000
That it would blanket not just
Hollywood,

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but the entire country and
denunciations in fear,

23:55.000 --> 24:00.000
and that the group gathered
around our table that
Thanksgiving would soon fall
apart.

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To escape persecution, some like
us would flee the country,

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some would stay and try to make
a living under another name,

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some would capitulate to the
committee,

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and in a desperate attempt to
save their names,

24:12.000 --> 24:15.000
drag someone else's through the
dirt.

24:15.000 --> 24:19.000
Over 40 Thanksgiving's have come
and gone since then,

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and have given me if anything
and even greater feeling of
poignancy

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for the impermanence of all our
ties.

24:25.000 --> 24:27.000
Perhaps that's why every year,

24:27.000 --> 24:32.000
my wife and I now try to welcome
at least one new face to our
Thanksgiving table

24:32.000 --> 24:35.000
and to remember the family and
friends no longer there.

24:35.000 --> 24:37.000
It's also why this Thanksgiving,

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the first my young son may
remember.

24:39.000 --> 24:42.000
I plant a raise a special toast
to my father,

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who though he died blacklisted
and with next to nothing in the
bank,

24:46.000 --> 24:50.000
left me something that
appreciates and value every
year.

24:50.000 --> 24:53.000
The example of his unfailing
good humor,

24:53.000 --> 24:57.000
his refusal to sell out his
principles or his friends,

24:57.000 --> 24:59.000
and for a so-called un-American,

24:59.000 --> 25:01.000
that most American virtue,

25:01.000 --> 25:05.000
the courage, if conscience
demanded, to stand along.

25:10.000 --> 25:14.000
Morning stories is produced by
WGBHFM in Boston,

25:14.000 --> 25:16.000
and we podcasted to you,

25:16.000 --> 25:18.000
well once a week,

25:18.000 --> 25:19.000
we used to do it on Fridays,

25:19.000 --> 25:21.000
and we'll kind of keep to that
schedule,

25:21.000 --> 25:22.000
but come on, it's a podcast,

25:22.000 --> 25:24.000
whenever we think we've got a
really good one,

25:24.000 --> 25:25.000
we'll have it coming to you,

25:25.000 --> 25:27.000
but at least once a week,

25:27.000 --> 25:28.000
in the meantime,

25:28.000 --> 25:30.000
if you downloaded this before
Thanksgiving,

25:30.000 --> 25:32.000
well, happy Thanksgiving,

25:32.000 --> 25:38.000
and if it's after happy trails
and many safe returns home.

25:38.000 --> 25:41.000
And from my assistant Gary Mott,

25:41.000 --> 25:43.000
as well, your Thanksgiving
wishes,

25:44.000 --> 25:47.000
well, Tony, you know, it's
Thanksgiving,

25:47.000 --> 25:50.000
it's a day when family comes
together,

25:50.000 --> 25:54.000
you know, maybe this is the only
time you'll see your family this
year,

25:54.000 --> 25:59.000
but we are asking you to put a
smile on your face

25:59.000 --> 26:02.000
and a spring in your step,

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and a point on your podcast,

26:04.000 --> 26:09.000
of the turkey moissens in the
album,

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and the cranberry sauce.

26:12.000 --> 26:15.000
Like blow, blow, shake your
cross.

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No, no, no.

26:18.000 --> 26:21.000
No, seriously, you know,

26:21.000 --> 26:22.000
I love that.

26:22.000 --> 26:23.000
Those guys are wack,

26:23.000 --> 26:25.000
that's when the podcast really
gets good,

26:25.000 --> 26:28.000
but a beautiful story that the
Tony come put together,

26:28.000 --> 26:29.000
therefore morning stories,

26:29.000 --> 26:32.000
you can check it out at WGBH,

26:32.000 --> 26:35.000
and of course theipotter.org
directory,

26:35.000 --> 26:36.000
excellent,

26:36.000 --> 26:38.000
and happy Thanksgiving to you
guys as well.

26:38.000 --> 26:41.000
Now, there's someone else who
works at WGBH,

26:41.000 --> 26:44.000
that's Rick, I'm going to ruin
his name again.

26:44.000 --> 26:45.000
Rick was a witch,

26:45.000 --> 26:47.000
but I, Rick, I'm sorry if I
screwed it up,

26:47.000 --> 26:49.000
and Rick has a religious,

26:49.000 --> 26:53.000
or a podcast that's listed under
the religious note

26:53.000 --> 26:54.000
in theipotter.org directory,

26:54.000 --> 26:56.000
and he got a promo for me.

26:56.000 --> 26:57.000
Thank you.

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You are clear,

26:58.000 --> 27:00.000
it's your voice print
identification.

27:00.000 --> 27:01.000
You see,

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we're on a mission from God,

27:03.000 --> 27:05.000
kind of bad feeling about this.

27:05.000 --> 27:08.000
This is Rick was wits with the
ICM Raw podcast,

27:08.000 --> 27:10.000
and you're listening to Adam
Curry,

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really source code.

27:15.000 --> 27:16.000
Cool, man.

27:16.000 --> 27:17.000
Check it out.

27:17.000 --> 27:18.000
That's the ICM podcast.

27:18.000 --> 27:21.000
You can find it at ipotter.org.

27:21.000 --> 27:22.000
Time now for a tune.

27:22.000 --> 27:23.000
What I'd like to do,

27:23.000 --> 27:25.000
whenever I don't really have
something

27:25.000 --> 27:26.000
that I've lined up myself,

27:26.000 --> 27:28.000
as I go to garageband.com,

27:28.000 --> 27:30.000
check out what at the top picks
are.

27:30.000 --> 27:32.000
This is from the Pop Rock
category.

27:32.000 --> 27:34.000
This is Arthur Yoria.

27:34.000 --> 27:37.000
I'll pretend.

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[ Music ]

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Hey Adam.

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I wanted to join the longest
people to welcome you to
England.

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So welcome.

30:57.000 --> 30:59.000
I also wanted to let you know
that recently

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I started my own podcast over at

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mashuppodcast.co.uk

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all about my favourite musical
genre.

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mashups or bootlegs.

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As well as pretty much anything
I want to talk about,

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it seems it is my share.

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Already it's three times more
popular than it was I thought.

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Judging by their response,

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a whole three emails.

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Anyway.

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Best look with the share.

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Adios.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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I've actually listened to that
and I got to say,

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I like it very, very much.

31:29.000 --> 31:31.000
Of course, I can't play too much
of that because

31:31.000 --> 31:35.000
there's some RIA issues there.

31:35.000 --> 31:37.000
But mashuppodcast.co.uk

31:37.000 --> 31:38.000
definitely Ross.

31:38.000 --> 31:40.000
Thank you very much for sending
that in.

31:40.000 --> 31:45.000
Now I've been working with a
whole bunch of people on the
iPod.org directory.

31:45.000 --> 31:48.000
And if you go to the contribute
node,

31:48.000 --> 31:51.000
you can find out how you can
actually maintain a node.

31:51.000 --> 31:54.000
We just added an educational
node today, which I'm really
proud of.

31:54.000 --> 31:58.000
And I've been working with or
trying to work with

31:58.000 --> 32:01.000
Andy Skin, I think his name is,

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getting a sports podcast node.

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We have one up there, but he
wanted to maintain one.

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Because he's actually doing a
sports podcast.

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We've had all kinds of issues
with the OPML file that he's
creating.

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I'm not quite sure what the
problem is.

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Although it seems that if you do

32:17.000 --> 32:20.000
an 8-bit encoding, and I'm going
on an old name here,

32:20.000 --> 32:22.000
because I don't know what the
head I'm talking about,

32:22.000 --> 32:24.000
that messes it up.

32:24.000 --> 32:29.000
I think the best thing to do is
just to look at the OPML file

32:29.000 --> 32:31.000
for the whole directory itself.

32:31.000 --> 32:33.000
There's something about the
headers that are important.

32:33.000 --> 32:35.000
And I wish I could give you all
the specifics,

32:35.000 --> 32:38.000
but just copy that stuff and
replace owner email and owner
name

32:38.000 --> 32:40.000
with your name and your email.

32:40.000 --> 32:41.000
And then it should be okay.

32:41.000 --> 32:45.000
And you can create these OPML
files in a whole bunch of
different types of software.

32:45.000 --> 32:50.000
There's also a link in the
iPart.org directory to OPML

32:50.000 --> 32:53.000
to the OPML.org website and to
applications

32:53.000 --> 32:55.000
that you can use on Mac and
Windows to create them.

32:55.000 --> 32:58.000
First time using radio user
land, which is great,

32:58.000 --> 33:01.000
because it has just a real
simple outline and all kinds of

33:01.000 --> 33:04.000
excellent bits in there that I
use to hack up my,

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my lethal programming efforts.

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Leathal meaning that if you're a
real programming,

33:10.000 --> 33:13.000
you look how to might have a
stroke.

33:14.000 --> 33:17.000
Anyway, even though we still
haven't gotten the,

33:17.000 --> 33:19.000
the sports note up and working,

33:19.000 --> 33:22.000
I didn't want to hold back on
this excellent podcast.

33:22.000 --> 33:26.000
And I have the URL, it's
anti-skinned.com slash skinny.

33:26.000 --> 33:29.000
That's in the podcast production
show notes for today's show.

33:29.000 --> 33:32.000
Just a little bit of the skinny
on sports because it rocks.

33:32.000 --> 33:45.000
This is the skinny on sports.

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On today's show, we'll be
discussing the MBA, the NFL.

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Over the hill athletes at
university sports in Canada.

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Fastest 10 minutes on your iPod.

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The sports stories that matter.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to
the big show.

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I'm Matt.

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I'm Andy.

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First quarter is coming up.

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See, that's what I like about
it.

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These guys totally are making a
show that I can handle.

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I don't know shit about sports.

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I do know liking a little bit
about what's going on.

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You know, of course, I follow
some stuff.

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But this is exactly what I want.

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You know, I want 10 minutes.

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Pop out of my iPod.

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Give me the top stories.

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I love the over the hill stuff,
the over the hill athletes.

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It's perfect.

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Great podcast.

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Skinny on sports.

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Anyskinned.com.

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Check it out.

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Something else that's exciting
that we're working with users
and developers on is

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a bit torrentizing the iPod or
process.

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What does this mean?

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If you're a podcaster,

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most podcasters by now who have
been keeping out of it

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have been going, going strong,
doing regular updates,

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which doesn't mean every single
day could be every week

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or every month as long as you're
in that groove

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and trying to be consistent.

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That's how you keep listeners.

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That's how keep listeners
interested at least.

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Is that, you know, the more
success you get,

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the more bandwidth your podcast
starts to eat up.

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That's exactly what happened to
the Ken and Squip show.

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My old buddies from thinking of,
from thinking of ideas.

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So one of the fixes to that is
instead of just transferring

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these MP3 files as MP3 files
from one web server

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that you probably pay for, you
know,

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your bandwidth to all these
people to the iPod or download
programs

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is to split it up and share it
with a wonderful peer-to-peer

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sharing protocol called
BitTorrent.

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That's probably heard about
this, if not,

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do Google search for BitTorrent.

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And what we want, and when I say
we is day-of-one

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and I've been thinking about
this for a long time,

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lots of people have been
thinking about it.

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Shit, Dave Slusher has been
distributing

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his eVlogenus Chronicles through
BitTorrent for weeks now.

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Is we want to make it so that
it's a little more transparent

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the way we set this up.

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What does that mean?

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It means that if you're
currently creating a podcast
feed,

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we're going to make it real
simple for you to add

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BitTorrent capability.

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Now, with BitTorrent capability,

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you could literally run your
podcast

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over your home broadband
connection.

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Because all you have to do is be
basically

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seeding at least the file from
your connection.

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And once other podcasts are
downloaded,

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they'll also be serving this up
to the entire universe.

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And we've seen, particularly
from Dave Slusher's example,

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this works really, really well.

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It's very efficient.

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And of course, what you want is
you don't want the situation

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I had in Belgium.

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You want a situation where you
have an ADSL or a cable

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modem.

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We have unlimited bandwidth.

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Sure, it's limited in how fast
it can leave your home

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and go into the Internet,

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but just not the amount of data.

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And I think most home providers
have that by now.

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That's what I've ordered.

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By the way, I didn't go with the
BT,

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British Telecom.

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I went with another outfit,

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which I'll post a link to, who
have unlimited bandwidth

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for my home here at the cottage.

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And I've put a link to basically
a request for comments

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for this Bitcoin RSS module.

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What it means is you'll be,

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instead of having to make two
different feeds available,

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so people have to choose.

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They want the Direct MP3 or the
Bitcoin.

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Most of the iPod are software by
now,

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supports Bitcoin.

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So now we're just making a
little extension on to RSS,

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which is your podcast feed,

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so that your iPod or software
will be able to recognize,

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oh wait a minute,

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there's a bit torn version of
this,

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and if you've decided to use
Bitcoin,

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it'll use the Bitcoin to
download

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instead of the MP3.

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And eventually,

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I predict that we'll be turning
off a lot of the MP3 stuff

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and just using BitTorrence as we
progress.

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But that'll take quite a while,

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but it's going to be a lot more
efficient for everybody

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to use this system.

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So if you're interested,

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and if you're a user,

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you should be interested because
we've made it simple enough,

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so you can understand if not,

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leave a comment.

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The link is on the podcast show
notes for today's show.

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Now tomorrow,

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and Sunday,

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I'm going to be traveling,

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so I will be online.

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In fact,

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I wanted to say that I chose my
hotel

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for Saturday night,

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based upon Wi-Fi availability.

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So if you're out there,

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and you're thinking about what

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do people book their trips for,

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what do people say?

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It's no joke.

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I literally looked at the hotel

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that I have stayed before,

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and that is recommended hotel,

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and decided not to go with it,

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because they did not have what,

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they didn't have any real
broadband

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that I could see on their
website,

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and so I went with the Wi-Fi,

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and that is definitely something

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that's going to get you more
business,

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so if you have a hotel,

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or a bread and breakfast,

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or whatever it is,

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please install some Wi-Fi,

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so that we can use it,

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y'all, everybody.

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Then I'll do it for one of those

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thank God,

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it's finally so scared.

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I'll probably post something

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and maybe Saturday or Saturday
night,

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when I get back,

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so you'll have it on Monday,

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and all you know,

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we're just waiting for the
bandwidth,

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the castle,

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and still a real pain to ask,

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to have to go to Starbucks with
the upload,

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and actually I'm going to upload
this one tonight,

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and it's snowman.

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Since it's only 10 pm,

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it should be up before midnight.

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Thanks again for checking us
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