WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:17.000 Well everybody, how are you doing? Welcome to the very first podcast coming to you from the Starbox 00:17.000 --> 00:23.000 I have from Gilford right now I'm getting a whole bunch of people looking at me quite strangely 00:23.000 --> 00:29.000 What the hell is that guy doing over there in the corner? He's clearly talking to himself 00:29.000 --> 00:34.000 And what's that thing he's actually talking into? It's a wonderful 00:36.000 --> 00:42.000 I'm gonna see you back in the explain on the front event of the day and explain to you exactly why we're coming to you from the Starbox 00:42.000 --> 00:49.000 Some Gilford where I located on Marcus Street right off the high street, which is completely located in the center of the lovely town of Gilford 00:49.000 --> 00:56.000 This is the Starbox where the having upstairs which kind of looks like a what's it called kind of like a frat house 00:56.000 --> 01:02.000 It's got all these crushed velvet chairs full of all kinds of stains that you really don't want to wear 01:08.000 --> 01:14.000 And they've got the music cranking here. They've got the tunes going there's a whole bunch of people here who are connected to their 01:14.000 --> 01:16.000 To the Wi-Fi, which is 01:16.000 --> 01:22.000 But more than I can say for the cottage at the time being is gone through quite a bit of crap in a couple of days 01:22.000 --> 01:28.000 And let me try to explain and let me tell you what I'm going to be doing here for as long as it takes essentially 01:28.000 --> 01:38.000 So yesterday was December second and I was promised that my telephone line at home, which is 01:39.000 --> 01:48.000 Connected by British telecom that it would be provisioned to a DSL line, which means basically they they unplug it at one end 01:48.000 --> 01:55.000 And plug it into another socket and then you have a DSL connection which means you can have a telephone line running over it 01:55.000 --> 01:59.000 Or you can have broadband running over that same line 01:59.000 --> 02:04.000 Now there's a whole bunch of providers you can choose from in the United Kingdom 02:05.000 --> 02:09.000 And the way that works is the infrastructure is basically put in by British telecom 02:09.000 --> 02:13.000 There's nothing you can do about that that's the same in many countries 02:13.000 --> 02:18.000 I'm not quite sure in the states who owns most of the copper wire probably 18T owns a whole bunch of it 02:18.000 --> 02:24.000 But in the Netherlands it's KPN. It's all the you know these used to be government organizations that they would run the phone companies 02:24.000 --> 02:27.000 So the infrastructure is British telecom 02:28.000 --> 02:33.000 They offer a broadband service which is limited and needed to 30 gigabytes a month 02:33.000 --> 02:36.000 Now we've been through that at the castle, so I knew it didn't want that 02:36.000 --> 02:41.000 And I wanted an unmetered service and there was this and I did a lot of research by the way 02:41.000 --> 02:46.000 And I called up companies I talked to them because I wanted to make an educated choice and do it right 02:46.000 --> 02:50.000 And I got a lot of help from the blogger sphere and people who listen to the source code 02:50.000 --> 02:54.000 Giving me ideas even though I hadn't really disclosed the location of where we were living 02:54.000 --> 03:03.000 Now everyone knows because I'm so pissed off that all places the mini silicon valley of the United Kingdom 03:03.000 --> 03:09.000 Which gulfed in some respects really is that you can't get a home based DSL broadband at the time being 03:09.000 --> 03:13.000 Because British telecom says there's no more ports available to let me continue 03:13.000 --> 03:18.000 I chose UK online because first of all they have an unneeded service 03:19.000 --> 03:22.000 Talk to the guys and tech support they sounded really nice really helpful 03:22.000 --> 03:24.000 Very knowledgeable about what they were doing 03:26.000 --> 03:32.000 And decided to go with them now they're just the ISP basically British telecom still has to plug me in and activate my line 03:32.000 --> 03:38.000 And then I'm essentially just logging in through you know just logging in over the network 03:38.000 --> 03:40.000 So really it's all back-end stuff 03:40.000 --> 03:43.000 So it doesn't matter who I would go with 03:43.000 --> 03:48.000 And no matter what provider the physical connection of the DSL line comes from British telecom 03:48.000 --> 03:55.000 So they even set up a date which was December 2nd and they told me they told the ISP UK online 03:55.000 --> 04:01.000 Which is UK online dot net of course links to everything in the show notes for today 04:01.000 --> 04:08.000 You know that they were going to provision my line which basically means the guy goes down to the exchange and you know switches my line over 04:08.000 --> 04:15.000 So it didn't happen yesterday I called up like five after six last night because it could be provision between 04:15.000 --> 04:20.000 830 AM and 6pm and they said well hold on a second 04:20.000 --> 04:24.000 Now it looks like it still hasn't been provisioned when you call back in the morning 04:24.000 --> 04:27.000 And we'll be able to call British telecom and find out what's going on 04:27.000 --> 04:34.000 So I did that this morning and they called BT and British telecom said well, you know we're really sorry 04:34.000 --> 04:42.000 But they're just no more ports available so we can't plug you in no matter who you're with until someone leaves or until a port becomes free 04:42.000 --> 04:48.000 Well that's a problem particularly when you told me we're going to do it 04:48.000 --> 04:54.000 And I can't blame the the ISP they're just kind of sitting in the middle and you know they don't know what to do 04:54.000 --> 04:59.000 So I called up British telecom verified the story and they said you know 04:59.000 --> 05:04.000 And I said well what if I take a broadband from BT doesn't make any difference or we can't help you 05:04.000 --> 05:08.000 Well am I on the list yeah of course you're on the list well where am I on the list or we can't tell you 05:08.000 --> 05:16.000 Well how does it work you know well since we have to be impartial to all providers there's some magical cue somewhere 05:16.000 --> 05:21.000 So it sounds like a whole cacophony of crap sitting there 05:21.000 --> 05:28.000 Just unclear to what's going to happen, but the one thing I will tell you that you cannot have a community like this 05:28.000 --> 05:33.000 Which is literally filled with researchers, scientists, professors, students 05:33.000 --> 05:39.000 I mean it's a go go look at Gilford on Google and I'll supply a couple of links to the research park in the business park 05:39.000 --> 05:45.000 You can't have people come here and live if they can't get DSL broadband and if they can't get it reasonably quickly 05:45.000 --> 05:51.000 So this should be seen as a community wide problem not just a podcast community problem and by the way 05:51.000 --> 05:55.000 Having the prints of pod without pipe is fucked up ladies and gentlemen 05:55.000 --> 05:57.000 It really sucks 05:57.000 --> 06:03.000 So a whole bunch of people helped out you can see the comments on my weblog live.curate.com 06:03.000 --> 06:10.000 Some folks were even at Lee Wilkins for instance I'm going to try and call Lee on Skype in a second 06:10.000 --> 06:15.000 Lee Wilkins knows some people some monkey mugs with inverters telecom 06:15.000 --> 06:20.000 And he's going to try and run stuff up the flagpole internally 06:20.000 --> 06:26.000 Receiving it anything changed other people sent me links to satellite broadband companies 06:26.000 --> 06:35.000 I looked at a lot of that and even though they do have DVB which is digital video broadcast in the UK which is much lower orbiting satellites 06:35.000 --> 06:40.000 And I guess comparable to DAB 06:40.000 --> 06:49.000 There's basically every single service besides being outrageously expensive anywhere from three to three hundred to seven hundred dollars a month 06:49.000 --> 06:54.000 Outside of your installation charge of a good two thousand dollars there's bandwidth restrictions 06:54.000 --> 06:57.000 Which is exactly what I don't want right 06:57.000 --> 07:00.000 Excuse me that's the coffee mocha 07:01.000 --> 07:04.000 Coming back like bad Mexican food for lunch 07:06.000 --> 07:08.000 Okay, so 07:09.000 --> 07:12.000 Other options were 07:12.000 --> 07:18.000 Cable now apparently I do live in an area that NTL cable 07:18.000 --> 07:21.000 Does provide access to 07:22.000 --> 07:28.000 I registered sent to my details they sent me emails saying they will contact me that was four hours ago 07:28.000 --> 07:30.000 Of course they haven't contacted me yet 07:30.000 --> 07:37.000 And regardless the soonest they'll be able to install anything will be on the 20th of December which is I can't live that long 07:37.000 --> 07:40.000 It's just this like it's like not having hot water in your house 07:40.000 --> 07:46.000 I cannot live without broadband. I told Patricia I said I will have to fucking move 07:46.000 --> 07:54.000 This is only one step lower than on the scale of crap as the dogs and cats having to go into quarantine 07:54.000 --> 07:59.000 So we'll see what happens until then 07:59.000 --> 08:06.000 And I've gotten past the pissed off stage now. You know I was really really angry really angry this morning as you might well imagine 08:06.000 --> 08:10.000 Now I'm in a just a problem solving mode 08:10.000 --> 08:15.000 So if it means that I will have to sit here every single day every week day until I get broadband installed 08:15.000 --> 08:19.000 I've to sit at Starbucks and do the podcast from here and look like a total fool 08:19.000 --> 08:23.000 Then I will if that's what it's going to take. In fact starting today every week day 08:23.000 --> 08:28.000 You can find me at the Starbucks and Gilford on Market Street is right off of the high street 08:28.000 --> 08:31.000 You can find me upstairs kind of in the corner close to the 08:31.000 --> 08:37.000 Electrical outlet. I've got my full kit here. I've got my SM7 sure microphone 08:37.000 --> 08:42.000 It's the one on the on the stand. I've got the table stand. I've got my my M audio breakout box 08:42.000 --> 08:46.000 So if you bring your own mic we can plug it in we can plug in instruments even 08:46.000 --> 08:51.000 But every day at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. I'll be doing the podcast from here 08:51.000 --> 08:55.000 And I'm cranking up with some music right now to get into the mood 08:55.000 --> 08:57.000 Good with my American heartbreak 08:57.000 --> 09:01.000 It's a Michael Butler's band from Rock and Old Geek Show here's sick and tired 09:03.750 --> 12:33.750 [ Music ] 12:40.080 --> 12:41.080 shoot, what is it? 12:41.080 --> 12:45.960 December 3rd, 2004 coming to you from the Starbucks on Market Street right off the 12:45.960 --> 12:52.200 high street in Guilford, in the United Kingdom, just the stones throw away from the cottage. 12:52.200 --> 12:57.680 So now that we all know where I live or more or less, let's see if we can get Lee Wilkins 12:57.680 --> 13:01.560 on Skype here. 13:01.560 --> 13:10.560 Let's see if we can get him on Lee, hello Lee, Lee are you there? 13:11.560 --> 13:16.560 Hello Lee, can you hear me? 13:16.560 --> 13:19.560 Hmm, I heard him for a second there, it looks like we lost them. 13:19.560 --> 13:23.560 Let's see if he's maybe just who now actually looks like he went offline. 13:23.560 --> 13:26.560 So we'll see if Lee can come back in a sec. 13:26.560 --> 13:30.560 Usually at this point, if I were on the radio and this were live, I'd say if you just 13:30.560 --> 13:32.560 tuned in, then this is what we're doing. 13:32.560 --> 13:36.560 But I guess that makes no sense because you've been tuned from the beginning presumably. 13:36.560 --> 13:38.560 It would be cool if I could get Dave one. 13:38.560 --> 13:41.560 Oh, I think it comes to Lee, let's see if we can get him in now. 13:41.560 --> 13:49.560 Lee, hello Lee, Lee, can you hear me? 13:49.560 --> 13:53.560 I can hear Lee, maybe he can't hear me for a second reason. 13:53.560 --> 13:54.560 Hold on, let's see. 13:54.560 --> 13:56.560 Yes, I can hear you. 13:56.560 --> 14:00.560 Yes, I guess he can't hear me, hold on. 14:00.560 --> 14:04.560 Maybe I have to change some setting here, hold on. 14:04.560 --> 14:06.560 Yeah, I see the problem here. 14:06.560 --> 14:10.560 The input should be set to, well, you should be able to hear me on this. 14:10.560 --> 14:13.560 I understand Lee, me not hear you. 14:13.560 --> 14:15.560 Well, I can hear you. 14:15.560 --> 14:19.560 Turn on your speakers. 14:19.560 --> 14:21.560 Just a thought, dude. 14:21.560 --> 14:24.560 I mean, I can see there's, it's going in. 14:24.560 --> 14:26.560 I can see that there's sound coming out. 14:26.560 --> 14:28.560 Let me try the internal microphone. 14:28.560 --> 14:30.560 Does that make any difference leaking here? 14:30.560 --> 14:32.560 No. 14:32.560 --> 14:34.560 I hear this. 14:34.560 --> 14:35.560 There on. 14:35.560 --> 14:37.560 I hear the Skype beat. 14:37.560 --> 14:40.560 Shoot. 14:40.560 --> 14:43.560 Come on, Lee. 14:43.560 --> 14:45.560 Shoot, I guess he just hung up. 14:45.560 --> 14:49.560 That makes no sense, because I can hear him. 14:49.560 --> 14:52.560 Okay, we'll see if he'll call back in a second then. 14:52.560 --> 14:54.560 Ah, you mind if I reboot? 14:54.560 --> 14:55.560 No. 14:55.560 --> 14:58.560 Go for it. 14:58.560 --> 14:59.560 Okay. 14:59.560 --> 15:00.560 Perfect. 15:00.560 --> 15:02.560 Well, then I suggest, what should we do? 15:02.560 --> 15:03.560 Shall we wait for Lee to reboot? 15:03.560 --> 15:06.560 Because I really wanted to get him on for two reasons. 15:06.560 --> 15:08.560 One, he's been helping me out. 15:08.560 --> 15:09.560 Very nice of him. 15:09.560 --> 15:11.560 He's been helping out with the, with the bandwidth problems. 15:11.560 --> 15:13.560 The second one being. 15:13.560 --> 15:14.560 Excuse me. 15:14.560 --> 15:15.560 Oh, man. 15:15.560 --> 15:16.560 The mocha. 15:16.560 --> 15:17.560 I got it. 15:17.560 --> 15:18.560 I can't drink coffee and mocha. 15:18.560 --> 15:20.560 Before doing a podcast. 15:20.560 --> 15:22.560 This should be a new podcast rule. 15:22.560 --> 15:23.560 Can't do that. 15:23.560 --> 15:24.560 Let's see. 15:24.560 --> 15:27.560 Is there anything else I can play? 15:27.560 --> 15:31.560 God, I don't have anything else prepared, really. 15:31.560 --> 15:33.560 Any other stuff? 15:33.560 --> 15:35.560 Let's see. 15:35.560 --> 15:39.560 Dave Weiner, I guess he got up and went to bed. 15:39.560 --> 15:44.560 Dave actually wrote a nice little piece on scripting news that I'll read to you all, 15:44.560 --> 15:47.560 waiting for Lee Wilkins to come back online. 15:47.560 --> 15:50.560 He must have something wrong with his, with the setup. 15:50.560 --> 15:52.560 Because I can see that we had audio going out. 15:52.560 --> 15:55.560 And I could definitely hear him typing. 15:56.560 --> 15:57.560 Let's see what Dave wrote. 15:57.560 --> 15:58.560 I guess Dave got up. 15:58.560 --> 15:59.560 What time to get up? 15:59.560 --> 16:00.560 Yeah. 16:00.560 --> 16:02.560 317 in the morning Pacific time. 16:02.560 --> 16:05.560 He writes on his weblog scripting news. 16:05.560 --> 16:06.560 That's scripting news. 16:06.560 --> 16:07.560 Scripting.com. 16:07.560 --> 16:09.560 I was hoping that my partner in podcast. 16:09.560 --> 16:11.560 Adam Curry will be back on the air today. 16:11.560 --> 16:13.560 But apparently it's not going to happen anytime soon. 16:13.560 --> 16:16.560 British telecom says they have no more ports. 16:16.560 --> 16:18.560 That someone has to leave before he can get one. 16:18.560 --> 16:19.560 And there's a wait list. 16:19.560 --> 16:21.560 Of course, we're all really disappointed. 16:21.560 --> 16:22.560 Not just Adam. 16:22.560 --> 16:24.560 He's part of an international community. 16:24.560 --> 16:25.560 Yeah, fucking A. 16:25.560 --> 16:28.560 And I'm sure that the community is going to help out in this case. 16:28.560 --> 16:31.560 Because I can just feel it. 16:31.560 --> 16:33.560 I can just feel it. 16:33.560 --> 16:34.560 Okay. 16:34.560 --> 16:37.560 Let me see if I've gotten any more. 16:37.560 --> 16:41.560 Any more suggestions have come through on the comments on the weblog. 16:41.560 --> 16:44.560 And this is the problem with not having any broad band. 16:44.560 --> 16:46.560 Just all your normal communications. 16:46.560 --> 16:49.560 Forget being able to upload or download podcasts. 16:49.560 --> 16:51.560 Your normal communications are just shot. 16:52.560 --> 16:55.560 It takes 20 minutes to just have mail come in. 16:55.560 --> 16:57.560 You know, let alone that there's no. 16:57.560 --> 16:59.560 I can't cash attachments or anything like that. 16:59.560 --> 17:03.560 So I have to remember which attachments to go back and get later on. 17:03.560 --> 17:06.560 I mean, it's really, it's a pain. 17:06.560 --> 17:07.560 Okay. 17:07.560 --> 17:09.560 Let me see if I have any comments. 17:09.560 --> 17:12.560 Yeah, it seems to be a new comment on the latest posting. 17:12.560 --> 17:14.560 I did about bandwidth and deal further. 17:14.560 --> 17:16.560 Let's see what that comment says. 17:16.560 --> 17:19.560 Oh, this is funny. 17:19.560 --> 17:20.560 This is from Nightwise. 17:20.560 --> 17:21.560 Good luck out of my see. 17:21.560 --> 17:23.560 You've taken quite the liking to your new title. 17:23.560 --> 17:27.560 The Prince of Pod is indeed far better than the Sultan of Small Band. 17:27.560 --> 17:29.560 Good luck at Starbucks. 17:29.560 --> 17:31.560 Everyone feels my pain indeed. 17:31.560 --> 17:37.560 By now we have 25 different comment links on the previous posting of people trying to help me out. 17:37.560 --> 17:39.560 Let's see if there's anything new that came in. 17:39.560 --> 17:41.560 Even saw my sister post on that. 17:41.560 --> 17:42.560 Oh, boy. 17:42.560 --> 17:43.560 There's lots here. 17:43.560 --> 17:44.560 Let's see. 17:44.560 --> 17:46.560 Moving back to Belgium. 17:46.560 --> 17:47.560 That's a good option. 17:48.560 --> 17:51.560 Do you haunt the cottage? 17:51.560 --> 17:54.560 Let's see. 17:54.560 --> 17:55.560 Okay. 17:55.560 --> 17:56.560 I can have. 17:56.560 --> 17:57.560 Oh, this is nice. 17:57.560 --> 17:58.560 Someone could. 17:58.560 --> 18:02.560 Someone has a staff and Antwerp called the CEO of British telecom request. 18:02.560 --> 18:08.560 An interview was part of an international documentary film entitled The World's Most Backward Telephone Companies. 18:08.560 --> 18:11.560 Oh, that's good. 18:11.560 --> 18:15.560 Everyone says I should use my name and use my cloud. 18:15.560 --> 18:18.560 I don't know about that. 18:18.560 --> 18:19.560 Let's see. 18:19.560 --> 18:20.560 What is Drew? 18:20.560 --> 18:21.560 Oh, Don and Drew. 18:21.560 --> 18:23.560 Drew checked in. 18:23.560 --> 18:27.560 Drew actually has a satellite link. 18:27.560 --> 18:33.560 I think at the farmhouse in Wisconsin. 18:33.560 --> 18:38.560 And I don't think he's very happy with that either. 18:38.560 --> 18:39.560 Okay. 18:39.560 --> 18:40.560 Now let's see. 18:40.560 --> 18:50.560 Let's see. 18:50.560 --> 18:53.560 How about a. 18:53.560 --> 18:55.560 We could do with the serious bitties. 18:55.560 --> 18:58.560 I haven't played one by the serious bitties in a long time. 18:58.560 --> 18:59.560 Oops. 18:59.560 --> 19:00.560 Hold on. 19:00.560 --> 19:01.560 Jason's up here. 19:01.560 --> 19:03.560 Okay. 19:03.560 --> 19:04.560 Thank you. 19:04.560 --> 19:07.560 As a problem with Skype out these days. 19:07.560 --> 19:10.560 Just like I turn on Skype and then within three seconds. 19:10.560 --> 19:13.560 I've got people all over the place. 19:13.560 --> 19:18.560 Insight messaging me and, you know, calling and requesting requesting chats. 19:18.560 --> 19:21.560 It's a drawback. 19:21.560 --> 19:22.560 Real drawback. 19:22.560 --> 19:23.560 Treeplayless serious bitties. 19:23.560 --> 19:26.560 Then we're waiting for for lead to come back online. 19:26.560 --> 19:29.560 It's only two minutes and 43 seconds if you want to skip ahead. 19:29.560 --> 19:31.560 This is called the truck song. 19:31.560 --> 19:32.560 Enjoy. 19:33.750 --> 22:06.250 [ Music ] 22:09.560 --> 22:13.560 LeCivius Bitties and the truck song here on the daily source code for Friday, 22:13.560 --> 22:16.560 December 3rd, 2004. 22:16.560 --> 22:20.560 We are two days away from what the Dutch would call center class. 22:20.560 --> 22:22.560 I think I probably explained this before. 22:22.560 --> 22:24.560 Certainly written about it on my weblog. 22:24.560 --> 22:29.560 That the Dutch, although Christmas has certainly become more of an institution 22:29.560 --> 22:32.560 mainly because of commercialization. 22:32.560 --> 22:35.560 They have their version of Santa Claus. 22:35.560 --> 22:40.560 This show up on his white horse with his black peat helpers, 22:40.560 --> 22:42.560 which is literally what they're called black peats. 22:42.560 --> 22:43.560 And they are black. 22:43.560 --> 22:47.560 Talk about discriminatory celebrations. 22:47.560 --> 22:53.560 And they go from door to door from rooftop to rooftop on the 5th of December. 22:53.560 --> 22:56.560 And put presents in children's shoes. 22:56.560 --> 23:00.560 Of course, originally these were wooden shoes that they did that. 23:00.560 --> 23:06.560 So even though Christina doesn't need to have anything in her shoe. 23:06.560 --> 23:10.560 Just because of the family that we still have all living back in Holland, 23:10.560 --> 23:12.560 we're kind of following along with the celebration. 23:12.560 --> 23:15.560 But here in the UK it's all Christmas meant. 23:15.560 --> 23:17.560 Everything is Christmas, the high street. 23:17.560 --> 23:19.560 Let me explain about the high street. 23:19.560 --> 23:22.560 Every town basically has a high street. 23:22.560 --> 23:24.560 It's kind of what we call the main drag. 23:24.560 --> 23:31.560 And in Guilford where we live, the high street is closed off to traffic until 5 or 6 every single day. 23:31.560 --> 23:33.560 And it's great. 23:33.560 --> 23:34.560 You can walk. 23:34.560 --> 23:35.560 It's cobblestones. 23:35.560 --> 23:37.560 It's beautiful, you know, quite little streets. 23:37.560 --> 23:39.560 But also the most modern and the most fashionable. 23:39.560 --> 23:42.560 I mean, you don't need to go to London if you want to do some shopping. 23:42.560 --> 23:43.560 You just come to the high street. 23:43.560 --> 23:47.560 And right off to the high street is a market street. 23:47.560 --> 23:50.560 And that's where the Starbucks is that I'm at. 23:50.560 --> 23:53.560 And I'm using the T-Mobile Wi-Fi link. 23:53.560 --> 23:56.560 Only costs like there's Lee. 23:56.560 --> 23:58.560 Only costs like 30 pounds for the week. 23:58.560 --> 24:01.560 So let's see if we can get Lee and Lee. 24:01.560 --> 24:03.560 Hello Lee. 24:03.560 --> 24:04.560 I don't know if they're comfortable. 24:04.560 --> 24:05.560 So I can hear him. 24:05.560 --> 24:07.560 That's what's crazy. 24:07.560 --> 24:09.560 Why can't Lee hear me? 24:09.560 --> 24:11.560 I don't understand. 24:11.560 --> 24:14.560 I'll send him an instant message. 24:14.560 --> 24:17.560 I can hear you. 24:21.560 --> 24:22.560 Come on Lee. 24:22.560 --> 24:24.560 Say something to his dude. 24:24.560 --> 24:31.560 Maybe we should try this with someone else and see if see if I can get it to work with 24:31.560 --> 24:34.560 with another person. 24:34.560 --> 24:36.560 I'll send him an instant message right now. 24:36.560 --> 24:42.560 I'm going to try something else. 24:42.560 --> 24:45.560 Stand by. 24:45.560 --> 24:51.560 And say hi to every one on the source code. 24:51.560 --> 24:52.560 Come on. 24:52.560 --> 24:54.560 Say hi. 24:54.560 --> 24:59.560 Let me try and call someone else here. 24:59.560 --> 25:00.560 Hold on. 25:00.560 --> 25:02.560 Let me call Ron Bloom. 25:02.560 --> 25:05.560 He's my former partner at the company. 25:05.560 --> 25:10.560 We took public in 96 called Think New Ideas. 25:10.560 --> 25:14.560 And I got him running on Skype recently. 25:15.560 --> 25:20.560 I can see his online. 25:20.560 --> 25:25.560 And usually when Ron's online, he'll pick up. 25:25.560 --> 25:29.560 I think he just turns the computer off if he's not using it. 25:29.560 --> 25:30.560 Shoot. 25:30.560 --> 25:34.560 This is not doing the way I wanted it to do. 25:34.560 --> 25:37.560 Okay. 25:37.560 --> 25:39.560 Let's try Dave Winner then. 25:39.560 --> 25:41.560 Although it looks like Dave's asleep. 25:41.560 --> 25:43.560 We'll give him a shout anyway. 25:43.560 --> 25:48.560 See if he's up and about. 25:48.560 --> 25:53.560 We need some dialing music. 25:53.560 --> 25:59.560 Do we have any dialing music? 25:59.560 --> 26:01.560 I don't think we do. 26:01.560 --> 26:05.560 Here we do. 26:05.560 --> 26:10.560 Here's some nice dialing music for your bottle. 26:11.560 --> 26:18.560 Trailer for sailor rent. 26:18.560 --> 26:22.560 Now doesn't look like that's gonna work, does it? 26:22.560 --> 26:23.560 Oh, this blows. 26:23.560 --> 26:26.560 I ain't got no cigarettes. 26:26.560 --> 26:27.560 I bet. 26:27.560 --> 26:28.560 Time wrong. 26:28.560 --> 26:29.560 Boom. 26:29.560 --> 26:30.560 Boom. 26:30.560 --> 26:31.560 Boom. 26:31.560 --> 26:32.560 Is it? 26:32.560 --> 26:33.560 Hey. 26:33.560 --> 26:34.560 For a bit. 26:34.560 --> 26:35.560 Boom. 26:35.560 --> 26:37.560 Man. 26:37.560 --> 26:40.560 The means by no means. 26:41.560 --> 26:42.560 Prince of the pod. 26:42.560 --> 26:43.560 Hey. 26:43.560 --> 26:44.560 We should make that sound. 26:44.560 --> 26:46.560 Shit. 26:46.560 --> 26:47.560 Okay. 26:47.560 --> 26:52.560 I don't understand why Lee Wilkins can't hear me. 26:52.560 --> 26:57.560 Let's try it one more time. 26:57.560 --> 27:00.560 Hello, Lee. Can you hear me? 27:00.560 --> 27:03.560 Shoot. 27:03.560 --> 27:05.560 Okay. 27:05.560 --> 27:06.560 Oh. 27:06.560 --> 27:08.560 Boy, did my Skype just crash there? 27:08.560 --> 27:09.560 Yeah, did hold on. 27:09.560 --> 27:10.560 Maybe that was the problem. 27:10.560 --> 27:12.560 Maybe it needed to be uncrashed. 27:12.560 --> 27:14.560 Can you hear the room? 27:14.560 --> 27:16.560 Hey, we should redo the song. 27:16.560 --> 27:18.560 Prince of the pod. 27:18.560 --> 27:19.560 Cool. 27:19.560 --> 27:21.560 Hey, let's listen to him while Skype is restarting. 27:21.560 --> 27:23.560 No other than names. 27:23.750 --> 27:48.750 [ Music ] 27:49.560 --> 27:51.560 Telling you that you can make a new hit. 27:51.560 --> 27:52.560 Prince of the pod. 27:52.560 --> 27:56.560 In the 12th of April, my love. 27:56.560 --> 28:00.560 Man means by no means. 28:00.560 --> 28:02.560 Prince of the pod. 28:02.560 --> 28:03.560 Okay. 28:03.560 --> 28:04.560 Let's try Lee again. 28:04.560 --> 28:16.560 Lee. 28:16.560 --> 28:19.560 Hello Lee. 28:19.560 --> 28:21.560 Lee. 28:21.560 --> 28:23.560 Hello Lee. 28:23.560 --> 28:24.560 Damn. 28:24.560 --> 28:25.560 Lee. 28:25.560 --> 28:27.560 Hello Lee. 28:27.560 --> 28:28.560 Hello Lee. 28:28.560 --> 28:30.560 Oh, this is sucks. 28:30.560 --> 28:32.560 It's really fucking sucks. 28:32.560 --> 28:34.560 This is not what I planned on doing. 28:34.560 --> 28:35.560 Hold on. 28:35.560 --> 28:37.560 Oh, that's probably Lee calling me now. 28:37.560 --> 28:38.560 Lee. 28:38.560 --> 28:39.560 Lee. 28:39.560 --> 28:40.560 Lee. 28:40.560 --> 28:41.560 That's why I say. 28:41.560 --> 28:44.560 Lee. 28:44.560 --> 28:45.560 Lee. 28:45.560 --> 28:46.560 Lee. 28:46.560 --> 28:47.560 Lee. 28:47.560 --> 28:48.560 Hey. 28:48.560 --> 28:49.560 I can hear you. 28:49.560 --> 28:50.560 Fine. 28:50.560 --> 28:51.560 Yeah. 28:51.560 --> 28:53.560 You can't hear me at all. 28:53.560 --> 28:54.560 Okay. 28:54.560 --> 28:55.560 We'll hold on. 28:55.560 --> 28:57.560 We'll do it this way because now you can. 28:57.560 --> 28:58.560 Can I call me? 28:58.560 --> 28:59.560 Call me on Skype. 28:59.560 --> 29:01.560 But don't hang this line up. 29:01.560 --> 29:02.560 We'll just talk this way. 29:02.560 --> 29:08.560 Because I'll be able to record both ends. 29:08.560 --> 29:09.560 Uh. 29:09.560 --> 29:10.560 Yeah. 29:10.560 --> 29:11.560 I could Skype out. 29:11.560 --> 29:12.560 Hold on a second. 29:12.560 --> 29:13.560 What? 29:13.560 --> 29:15.560 To this number? 29:15.560 --> 29:17.560 Hold on a second. 29:17.560 --> 29:19.560 Let me. 29:19.560 --> 29:21.560 Okay. 29:21.560 --> 29:24.560 What give me the number? 29:24.560 --> 29:27.560 Yeah. 29:27.560 --> 29:28.560 Yeah. 29:31.560 --> 29:32.560 Okay. 29:32.560 --> 29:33.560 Okay. 29:33.560 --> 29:34.560 I'll call you right back. 29:34.560 --> 29:35.560 Okay. 29:35.560 --> 29:36.560 Okay. 29:36.560 --> 29:39.560 That was actually a fairly intelligent idea Lee had there. 29:39.560 --> 29:41.560 I could just try to Skype out. 29:41.560 --> 29:45.560 Which means I'm going to use the telephone. 29:45.560 --> 29:47.560 The telephone version. 29:47.560 --> 29:48.560 Okay. 29:48.560 --> 29:49.560 So let's see. 29:49.560 --> 29:51.560 It should be. 29:51.560 --> 29:52.560 Uh. 29:52.560 --> 29:54.560 Country code. 29:54.560 --> 29:55.560 Four. 29:55.560 --> 29:57.560 I'm going to just enter the number. 29:58.560 --> 30:00.560 One. 30:00.560 --> 30:01.560 One. 30:03.560 --> 30:04.560 Two. 30:04.560 --> 30:05.560 Okay. 30:05.560 --> 30:08.560 Let's see if this works. 30:08.560 --> 30:13.560 I'll be cool if that did work. 30:13.560 --> 30:16.560 I wonder maybe I have to put a plus. 30:16.560 --> 30:18.560 Plus sign. 30:18.560 --> 30:19.560 Okay. 30:19.560 --> 30:21.560 Hold on. 30:21.560 --> 30:23.560 Field. 30:24.560 --> 30:26.560 Gee, this is a lot of fun in it. 30:26.560 --> 30:27.560 Okay. 30:27.560 --> 30:30.560 This should be. 30:30.560 --> 30:31.560 Come on. 30:31.560 --> 30:32.560 There we go. 30:32.560 --> 30:33.560 Ooh. 30:33.560 --> 30:35.560 Just might work. 30:35.560 --> 30:36.560 Lee. 30:36.560 --> 30:37.560 Oh man. 30:37.560 --> 30:39.560 Skype fucking crashed again. 30:39.560 --> 30:42.560 Fucking bugger. 30:42.560 --> 30:43.560 Wow. 30:43.560 --> 30:45.560 Did that sound English or what? 30:45.560 --> 30:47.560 But God damn it. 30:47.560 --> 30:48.560 Okay. 30:48.560 --> 30:50.560 Let's suck. 30:50.560 --> 30:52.560 Skype shouldn't be crashing. 30:52.560 --> 30:53.560 One away. 30:53.560 --> 30:54.560 We're now. 30:54.560 --> 30:55.560 Okay. 30:55.560 --> 30:56.560 30 minutes into this podcast. 30:56.560 --> 30:59.560 I'm still going to try and keep it at 40 regardless. 30:59.560 --> 31:01.560 Oh man. 31:01.560 --> 31:02.560 Okay. 31:02.560 --> 31:04.560 Starting up Skype again. 31:04.560 --> 31:05.560 Let's see if. 31:05.560 --> 31:06.560 It must be something wrong. 31:06.560 --> 31:08.560 That's clearly. 31:08.560 --> 31:09.560 Okay. 31:09.560 --> 31:12.560 So I'll put my plus in there. 31:12.560 --> 31:13.560 Four. 31:19.560 --> 31:20.560 Okay. 31:20.560 --> 31:21.560 Let's try this again. 31:22.560 --> 31:25.560 If long as Skype doesn't crash, then we're good. 31:25.560 --> 31:28.560 But we need a new version of Skype. 31:28.560 --> 31:30.560 That's for sure. 31:30.560 --> 31:31.560 Lee. 31:31.560 --> 31:33.560 Can you hear me now? 31:33.560 --> 31:36.560 Don't tell me you can't hear me this way either. 31:36.560 --> 31:37.560 He can't. 31:37.560 --> 31:38.560 God. 31:38.560 --> 31:40.560 This is all. 31:40.560 --> 31:41.560 Ah. 31:41.560 --> 31:44.560 Well, there's clearly something wrong with my Skype set up then. 31:44.560 --> 31:46.560 That's for sure. 31:46.560 --> 31:47.560 Let's see. 31:47.560 --> 31:49.560 Maybe if we change. 31:49.560 --> 31:50.560 Hello. 31:50.560 --> 31:51.560 Lee. 31:51.560 --> 31:52.560 Hold on. 31:52.560 --> 31:53.560 Don't go away. 31:53.560 --> 31:54.560 Don't hang up. 31:54.560 --> 31:55.560 Don't hang up. 31:55.560 --> 31:56.560 Don't hang up. 31:56.560 --> 31:57.560 Don't hang up. 31:57.560 --> 31:58.560 He hung up. 31:58.560 --> 31:59.560 Shit. 31:59.560 --> 32:00.560 Okay. 32:00.560 --> 32:03.560 I'm just going to try in the old way. 32:03.560 --> 32:06.560 I'm going to ask him to call me on the phone. 32:06.560 --> 32:09.560 So clearly there's something wrong here. 32:09.560 --> 32:10.560 Okay. 32:10.560 --> 32:12.560 We'll just do it that way. 32:12.560 --> 32:13.560 We'll just have him. 32:13.560 --> 32:15.560 I'll call him on the phone. 32:15.560 --> 32:18.560 And this way we'll be able to record it. 32:19.560 --> 32:21.560 Hello. 32:21.560 --> 32:22.560 Lee. 32:22.560 --> 32:23.560 Can you hear me? 32:23.560 --> 32:24.560 No. 32:24.560 --> 32:28.560 I'm sure you can't hear me. 32:28.560 --> 32:29.560 Okay. 32:29.560 --> 32:30.560 Hold on. 32:30.560 --> 32:34.560 Come on Lee. 32:34.560 --> 32:38.560 Where are you, boy? 32:38.560 --> 32:39.560 Okay. 32:39.560 --> 32:41.560 Call me on the cell. 32:41.560 --> 32:42.560 Call me. 32:42.560 --> 32:44.560 Then we have it. 32:44.560 --> 32:45.560 Okay. 32:45.560 --> 32:46.560 There. 32:46.560 --> 32:47.560 Yeah. 32:48.560 --> 32:49.560 Yeah. 32:49.560 --> 32:50.560 Okay. 32:50.560 --> 32:51.560 Buddy. 32:51.560 --> 32:53.560 How are you doing first of all? 32:53.560 --> 32:56.560 I'm doing pretty well as you can imagine. 32:56.560 --> 32:58.560 I'll explain it in a little while. 32:58.560 --> 32:59.560 What happened. 32:59.560 --> 33:04.560 It's not so much me on the blood. 33:04.560 --> 33:06.560 It's trying to put on a very face. 33:06.560 --> 33:08.560 Let's set this up properly. 33:08.560 --> 33:13.560 Because Lee, I've known you for maybe a month or two now. 33:13.560 --> 33:17.560 I met through, well, through podcasting one way or the other. 33:17.560 --> 33:20.560 And Lee is kind of like a stalker. 33:20.560 --> 33:21.560 Yeah. 33:21.560 --> 33:23.560 But a good stalker in a way. 33:23.560 --> 33:28.560 And he's been, been skyping me and we've been talking off and on for a while. 33:28.560 --> 33:33.560 And we hooked up by a telephone just a couple days ago. 33:33.560 --> 33:39.560 And he told me this gut-redging story that I just wanted to let everyone know. 33:39.560 --> 33:44.560 Because I think that the daily source code listeners could easily help with this problem. 33:44.560 --> 33:46.560 Lee, you just want to explain what happened. 33:46.560 --> 33:49.560 Because you were, you would move to the States, right? 33:49.560 --> 33:54.560 You were going to go, you had a job line up there, not too long ago, right? 33:54.560 --> 33:55.560 That's correct. 33:55.560 --> 34:04.560 On the 25th of May this year, the UK company that I was working for sent me to the States to help with the US operations. 34:04.560 --> 34:08.560 Which for a 22 year old and being given it opportunity, you know, you're like, yeah, yeah. 34:08.560 --> 34:09.560 That's correct. 34:09.560 --> 34:10.560 Yeah, exactly. 34:10.560 --> 34:11.560 So we're in four weeks. 34:11.560 --> 34:17.560 You know, on the first of May this was arranged and by the 25th of May, we touched down in Atlanta. 34:17.560 --> 34:26.560 So as we landed, we were kindly put up by one of the members of this social networking site that I worked for. 34:26.560 --> 34:33.560 So we touched down and you know, she hadn't, there was a few problems there, which meant we would kick down. 34:33.560 --> 34:37.560 Because our dogs ate a tomato plant and I hadn't even started to grow. 34:37.560 --> 34:39.560 When were your dog ate a tomato plant? 34:39.560 --> 34:41.560 Yeah, she kicked us out because of it. 34:41.560 --> 34:43.560 What out of your apartment? 34:43.560 --> 34:48.560 No, the yard of somewhere where we were staying. 34:48.560 --> 34:49.560 Right. 34:49.560 --> 34:57.560 So we'd, and during that time, you know, as you know, if you yourself from your park, your blocks this morning, 34:57.560 --> 35:03.560 getting broadband, you know, almost within a few days, finding somewhere to live is not easy. 35:03.560 --> 35:04.560 No. 35:04.560 --> 35:07.560 So you had your two dogs, you took with you to the States. 35:07.560 --> 35:08.560 Correct. 35:08.560 --> 35:10.560 We bought them from London. 35:10.560 --> 35:12.560 We, to get them from London to the States. 35:12.560 --> 35:15.560 All we had to do was have the microchip. 35:15.560 --> 35:16.560 How certificates. 35:16.560 --> 35:17.560 Right. 35:17.560 --> 35:22.560 And that was pretty much it because the UK is considered as a rabies free country. 35:22.560 --> 35:23.560 Oh yeah, definitely. 35:23.560 --> 35:24.560 Yep. 35:24.560 --> 35:27.560 So we got them to the States and to cut long story short. 35:27.560 --> 35:29.560 I was fired. 35:29.560 --> 35:30.560 Or I was a subcontractor. 35:30.560 --> 35:32.560 I was contracted for them. 35:32.560 --> 35:33.560 Yeah. 35:33.560 --> 35:36.560 So you moved your entire life, including your two dogs. 35:36.560 --> 35:38.560 And then your contract was cut. 35:38.560 --> 35:39.560 Yeah. 35:39.560 --> 35:40.560 We sold everything. 35:40.560 --> 35:41.560 We were standing somewhere. 35:41.560 --> 35:42.560 We just lost Christmas. 35:42.560 --> 35:44.560 We kicked out our whole apartment. 35:44.560 --> 35:46.560 You know, dogs' ball of stuff. 35:46.560 --> 35:47.560 It's a huge table. 35:47.560 --> 35:50.560 You know, that aside because we've done a full cow. 35:50.560 --> 35:51.560 Yeah. 35:51.560 --> 35:53.560 And because it is new opportunity that we thought would be great. 35:53.560 --> 35:55.560 You know, for young 22 year olds to do. 35:55.560 --> 35:56.560 Yeah. 35:56.560 --> 35:57.560 And to travel and move to the States. 35:57.560 --> 35:58.560 Yeah. 35:58.560 --> 35:59.560 Of course. 36:00.560 --> 36:02.560 It's a beautiful thing to do. 36:02.560 --> 36:05.560 And I thought I wanted to do it since I was 16. 36:05.560 --> 36:07.560 I wanted to study there at first. 36:07.560 --> 36:10.560 So, you know, I grabbed the opportunity as quickly as I could. 36:10.560 --> 36:13.560 So we got to the States and we were in that land. 36:13.560 --> 36:14.560 And then we got fired. 36:14.560 --> 36:16.560 And we moved to Houston. 36:16.560 --> 36:19.560 I hope I find in Jenny, my girlfriend's and work. 36:19.560 --> 36:20.560 Right. 36:20.560 --> 36:21.560 She's also 22. 36:21.560 --> 36:22.560 She's 20. 36:22.560 --> 36:23.560 Okay. 36:23.560 --> 36:24.560 Right. 36:24.560 --> 36:25.560 She was a bit guided. 36:25.560 --> 36:27.560 Actually, she couldn't drink legally in the States. 36:28.560 --> 36:30.560 Even though she could do so hard to hear any UK. 36:30.560 --> 36:31.560 Right. 36:31.560 --> 36:33.560 I think in that sense, she's glad to be on. 36:33.560 --> 36:34.560 Yeah. 36:34.560 --> 36:37.560 At least there's some benefit because what happened is. 36:37.560 --> 36:39.560 Now, you guys were, you see, you, 36:39.560 --> 36:41.560 essentially, you decided to come back. 36:41.560 --> 36:42.560 Right. 36:42.560 --> 36:44.560 Since things didn't work out in the States. 36:44.560 --> 36:45.560 Yes. 36:45.560 --> 36:49.560 But then because you'd been there so short and you hadn't really had time to focus on it, 36:49.560 --> 36:52.560 you didn't have time to get your, 36:52.560 --> 36:54.560 the dogs, the rabies shots. 36:54.560 --> 36:56.560 They needed to come back into the country, right? 36:56.560 --> 36:57.560 Correct. 36:57.560 --> 37:00.560 And I, and I just don't think all about you. 37:00.560 --> 37:05.560 I'm an expert now when it comes to the, when it comes to rabies and getting your dogs and cats in, 37:05.560 --> 37:07.560 because we barely squeaked under the wire. 37:07.560 --> 37:10.560 So, so basically they have to go into quarantine. 37:10.560 --> 37:11.560 That's correct. 37:11.560 --> 37:13.560 That has to go into quarantine for six months. 37:13.560 --> 37:17.560 If we can get them, if and when we can get them to the UK. 37:17.560 --> 37:20.560 But what do you mean, if and when you can, where are they now? 37:20.560 --> 37:22.560 They're coming at Atlanta. 37:22.560 --> 37:25.560 And this is what's making it more exciting. 37:25.560 --> 37:31.560 Because of the, you know, they're happening through, because of Delta. 37:31.560 --> 37:34.560 We'd spoken to Delta two weeks prior to our flight. 37:34.560 --> 37:37.560 And they booked our dogs on the flight. 37:37.560 --> 37:41.560 And we just assume that they've booked them as a fantastic cargo because, you know, 37:41.560 --> 37:43.560 they should know what they're doing. 37:43.560 --> 37:46.560 And I'll ring them up two days before the flight. 37:46.560 --> 37:51.560 And a day before I'm due to drive 900 miles from Houston to Atlanta. 37:51.560 --> 37:58.560 Just ask us, because I want it to know that requirement size is for the kennel cases to travel in. 37:58.560 --> 38:02.560 As you said, the woman said, no, sorry, pets don't, pets can't fly. 38:02.560 --> 38:06.560 This is almost like, like, my broadband is like, yeah, sure, no problem. 38:06.560 --> 38:08.560 And then on the day off, it's like, oh, I'm sorry. 38:08.560 --> 38:09.560 That's a problem, right? 38:09.560 --> 38:10.560 Yeah. 38:10.560 --> 38:11.560 Yes. 38:11.560 --> 38:13.560 And plus on top of this, you know, money was tired. 38:13.560 --> 38:14.560 And I had to try it. 38:14.560 --> 38:17.560 So I didn't have access to a phone or anything. 38:17.560 --> 38:20.560 And I've got a day to sort out the dogs. 38:20.560 --> 38:23.560 So you basically didn't have time to sort it out at all. 38:23.560 --> 38:28.560 No, we, we, I managed to find a, uh, a ball game kennel that we were thinking perhaps just 38:28.560 --> 38:30.560 leave them there for a few days. 38:30.560 --> 38:35.560 But as soon as we got there, I'm telling you these kennels were the worst kennels that I've ever seen. 38:35.560 --> 38:38.560 You know, I wouldn't want my worst enemies to live in these kennels. 38:38.560 --> 38:40.560 And this is the delta kennels. 38:40.560 --> 38:43.560 This was a company that dealt are used. 38:43.560 --> 38:44.560 Oh, shit. 38:44.560 --> 38:46.560 So what, what kind of dogs are these Lee? 38:46.560 --> 38:48.560 Uh, we have two little jack russles. 38:48.560 --> 38:49.560 Ah. 38:49.560 --> 38:51.560 And we've just missed their birthday. 38:51.560 --> 38:53.560 Uh, Alfie's birthday was last week. 38:53.560 --> 38:55.560 Well, what's the other dog Alfie and who? 38:55.560 --> 38:56.560 Benson. 38:56.560 --> 38:57.560 And Alfie and Benson. 38:57.560 --> 38:58.560 Okay. 38:58.560 --> 39:00.560 So, so let me just recap here. 39:00.560 --> 39:04.560 So if I understand properly because of the incorrect information Delta gave you. 39:04.560 --> 39:09.560 Um, and that you had to drive, you know, a thousand miles didn't have a phone, et cetera, et cetera. 39:09.560 --> 39:14.560 You couldn't get your dogs on the same flight as you, as you and your girlfriend Jenny had coming back 39:14.560 --> 39:15.560 to the UK. 39:15.560 --> 39:18.560 So they're now stuck in Atlanta or in Houston. 39:18.560 --> 39:19.560 They're stuck in Atlanta. 39:19.560 --> 39:20.560 Okay. 39:20.560 --> 39:21.560 How do we get them out? 39:21.560 --> 39:23.560 What needs to happen? 39:23.560 --> 39:28.560 Um, well, because we don't need set aside $220 that we thought Delta told it was originally 39:28.560 --> 39:29.560 going to cost. 39:29.560 --> 39:31.560 Um, the fee had not. 39:31.560 --> 39:32.560 It comes down to don't do it. 39:32.560 --> 39:35.560 And the only people that can fly pets legally, 39:35.560 --> 39:40.560 route of Atlanta into London get week is continental. 39:40.560 --> 39:41.560 Right. 39:41.560 --> 39:46.560 And, you know, I, at the airport, I've done the pig in as much as I could. 39:46.560 --> 39:49.560 Um, with me stuff flights and it all went a bit crazy. 39:49.560 --> 39:51.560 But that's neither here nor there. 39:51.560 --> 39:56.560 But to fly them out with continental, it's going to cost around $1,500. 39:56.560 --> 39:57.560 Oh, geez. 39:57.560 --> 40:01.560 And that fees grow in by 20 dollars a day because of the kennel costs as well. 40:01.560 --> 40:02.560 Right. 40:02.560 --> 40:04.560 And this is the horrible can all that they're in. 40:04.560 --> 40:05.560 Yeah. 40:05.560 --> 40:08.560 And the girlfriend, you know, to be honest, I know she's going to listen to this. 40:08.560 --> 40:10.560 And she's probably going to buy my head off. 40:10.560 --> 40:13.560 She's almost, she's so close to losing the plot. 40:13.560 --> 40:15.560 She's talking to the dogs that aren't even there. 40:15.560 --> 40:16.560 Oh, you're kidding me. 40:16.560 --> 40:17.560 She's not sleeping. 40:17.560 --> 40:18.560 She's beside herself. 40:18.560 --> 40:19.560 Of course I understand. 40:19.560 --> 40:21.560 This is exactly what would have happened with Patricia. 40:21.560 --> 40:22.560 I totally understand. 40:22.560 --> 40:23.560 Oh, this is horrible. 40:23.560 --> 40:24.560 Okay. 40:24.560 --> 40:27.560 So, um, when I heard this story, I said to Lee, I said, 40:27.560 --> 40:29.560 we got to do something about this. 40:29.560 --> 40:31.560 And I know how many people subscribe to the daily source code. 40:31.560 --> 40:35.560 And did you, were you able to set up a tip jar like a PayPal tip jar or something? 40:35.560 --> 40:36.560 Lee? 40:36.560 --> 40:37.560 Yes. 40:37.560 --> 40:38.560 If anyone's willing to help out. 40:38.560 --> 40:39.560 You know, we will be great. 40:39.560 --> 40:42.560 For if you haven't got Alfie and Benson.com. 40:42.560 --> 40:43.560 That's Alfie. 40:43.560 --> 40:44.560 Spel it. 40:44.560 --> 40:46.560 A-L-F-I-E. 40:46.560 --> 40:50.560 And Benson-B-E-N-S-O-N.com. 40:50.560 --> 40:51.560 Okay. 40:51.560 --> 40:56.560 So, there's a PayPal link there that they can donate some money to getting Alfie and Benson back. 40:56.560 --> 40:57.560 There is correct. 40:57.560 --> 40:58.560 Okay. 40:58.560 --> 40:59.560 Well, that's excellent. 40:59.560 --> 41:04.560 Um, you know, if every source code listener were to just donate one dollar. 41:04.560 --> 41:05.560 Yeah. 41:05.560 --> 41:08.560 But you wouldn't have to work for the rest of your life. 41:08.560 --> 41:09.560 Yeah. 41:09.560 --> 41:10.560 But I'm hoping that we can get enough. 41:10.560 --> 41:13.560 And, you know, and let us know when you have the 1500. 41:13.560 --> 41:14.560 Okay. 41:14.560 --> 41:16.560 So that we can, uh, we can celebrate that. 41:16.560 --> 41:21.560 I'm pretty sure that we can get at least 1500 daily source code listeners to donate, uh, 41:21.560 --> 41:22.560 one dollar at least. 41:22.560 --> 41:27.560 I'm going to, I want to put in my donation right after we hang up and, uh, and, you know, 41:27.560 --> 41:29.560 let's, let's get Alfie and Benson home. 41:29.560 --> 41:30.560 At least they'll be home in the UK. 41:30.560 --> 41:32.560 And then they still have to sit and quarantine for six months. 41:32.780 --> 41:33.780 That's credible. 41:33.780 --> 41:37.560 We just found out we've actually got 12 days to fly one of them back into the country 41:37.560 --> 41:44.060 because he's choose some medical, um, I don't know there will be girlfriend. 41:44.060 --> 41:48.560 If she feels with that sort of that she's, he's chosen tablets and stuff and injections. 41:48.560 --> 41:51.560 Or it doesn't give you, it doesn't have them in 12 days. 41:51.560 --> 41:53.560 Oh, this is a horrible story, Lee. 41:53.560 --> 41:54.560 Yeah. 41:54.560 --> 41:56.560 I feel so bad for you. 41:56.560 --> 42:00.560 We have so bad that if you check out Leiratus.com we even put on laptop out there for sale 42:00.560 --> 42:01.560 that the only laptop that we have. 42:01.560 --> 42:02.560 that we have. 42:02.560 --> 42:04.560 We don't want you selling her laptop. 42:04.560 --> 42:06.120 Now I don't want you selling your laptop. 42:06.120 --> 42:10.320 I'm sure that the podcast community can hop in here and help out. 42:10.320 --> 42:13.320 Should be totally doable to get 1,500 bucks totally. 42:13.320 --> 42:14.320 What else do you think? 42:14.320 --> 42:17.880 I just like to thank you for giving me the chance to tell my story. 42:17.880 --> 42:18.880 No, Lee. 42:18.880 --> 42:23.160 It's listen from one pet owner to another who's been through the scare and I got off 42:23.160 --> 42:24.160 lucky. 42:24.160 --> 42:30.560 Especially to have your dog sitting in America in a kennel that you know is all that great. 42:30.560 --> 42:31.560 It must feel horrible. 42:31.560 --> 42:33.560 It must feel just terrible. 42:33.560 --> 42:34.560 It is. 42:34.560 --> 42:35.560 It is. 42:35.560 --> 42:36.560 It's very good. 42:36.560 --> 42:37.560 Okay. 42:37.560 --> 42:38.560 All right, then, Lee. 42:38.560 --> 42:40.560 We're about 42 minutes into the source code. 42:40.560 --> 42:42.560 So I'm going to wrap the show up. 42:42.560 --> 42:45.560 I'll go and donate to the first dollars in just a few minutes. 42:45.560 --> 42:50.560 We'll get the podcast out there and let's hope that we can get Alfie and Vincent home pretty soon. 42:50.560 --> 42:51.560 Thanks. 42:51.560 --> 42:53.560 Thank you very much, everybody. 42:53.560 --> 42:54.560 Everybody. 42:54.560 --> 42:55.560 All right, Lee. 42:55.560 --> 42:56.560 I'll talk to you later. 42:56.560 --> 42:57.560 Okay. 42:57.560 --> 42:58.560 Thank you very much. 42:58.560 --> 42:59.560 Okay, buddy. 43:00.560 --> 43:01.560 All right. 43:01.560 --> 43:06.560 So that's Lee Wilkins on the daily source code with a real sob story. 43:06.560 --> 43:10.560 Been waiting to get the story out to you for like three days because well, it wasn't able 43:10.560 --> 43:14.560 to do it because of the lack of bandwidth to be able to do a Skype call. 43:14.560 --> 43:20.560 So please go over to Alfie and Benson.com and help out Lee and his girlfriend Jenny. 43:20.560 --> 43:21.560 It's just a sad story. 43:21.560 --> 43:23.560 Those poor puppies. 43:23.560 --> 43:28.560 Those Jack Russells are just sitting there and some horrible kennel in Atlanta. 43:28.560 --> 43:30.560 So let's help them out. 43:30.560 --> 43:32.560 And then get me some fucking broadband. 43:32.560 --> 43:33.560 Will you please? 43:33.560 --> 43:34.560 Because that's what I really need. 43:34.560 --> 43:36.560 I'll leave it at that for today's source code. 43:36.560 --> 43:38.560 I'll be back Monday here from the Starbucks. 43:38.560 --> 43:44.560 It's your daily source code coming to you from the Starbucks on Market Street. 43:44.560 --> 43:46.560 We'll be here every single weekday at 2 o'clock. 43:46.560 --> 43:48.560 Come on in and join the party if you want to. 43:48.560 --> 43:51.560 It's right off the high street in Guilford in the UK. 43:51.560 --> 43:52.560 Comments. 43:52.560 --> 43:53.560 Adam at curry.com. 43:53.560 --> 43:55.560 Please don't add the comments. 43:55.560 --> 43:58.560 And any three is attachment but send a link to it. 43:58.560 --> 44:04.560 That way I can download and once I get to the Starbucks. 44:04.560 --> 44:06.560 Once again, thanks for tuning in. 44:06.560 --> 44:08.560 We'll check you out on Monday. 44:08.560 --> 44:09.560 Have a great weekend everybody. 44:09.560 --> 44:10.560 Bye bye. 44:25.560 --> 44:27.560 Thank you.