WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.000 Hey everybody! 00:05.000 --> 00:07.000 No, like, hey everybody! 00:07.000 --> 00:10.000 Hey everybody! 00:15.000 --> 00:17.000 Hey everybody, indeed! 00:17.000 --> 00:23.000 Welcome to the Daily Source Code for Tuesday, December 14, 2004, coming to you from Curricanage 00:23.000 --> 00:27.000 in the United Kingdom of the Great British Isle. 00:27.000 --> 00:30.000 It's your source code, let's party. 00:30.000 --> 00:33.000 It's our source code. 00:33.000 --> 00:35.000 It is intellect. 00:35.000 --> 00:37.000 Some are beginning the question of this. 00:37.000 --> 00:44.000 Is it the power of pure intellect or something completely unrelated? 00:44.000 --> 00:52.000 Alrighty, it is coming up on the evening hours here and once again it's been quite a day of 00:52.000 --> 00:55.000 excitement here in Good Old Guildford, UK. 00:55.000 --> 01:02.000 I've had my trip to Starbucks to upload and download and transfer all kinds of 01:02.000 --> 01:04.000 bits and bytes. 01:04.000 --> 01:07.000 And I've got promos and pod-said music. 01:07.000 --> 01:17.000 And a lot to talk about for users and developers as there's lots of stuff going on in the iPod 01:17.000 --> 01:18.000 world. 01:18.000 --> 01:19.000 It's about before. 01:19.000 --> 01:20.000 I continue. 01:20.000 --> 01:24.000 I want to play the entire promo that I started to show off with because it was so incredibly 01:24.000 --> 01:25.000 cute. 01:25.000 --> 01:26.000 Listen to that one more time. 01:26.000 --> 01:28.000 Hey everybody! 01:28.000 --> 01:31.000 No, like, hey everybody! 01:31.000 --> 01:33.000 Hey everybody! 01:33.000 --> 01:41.000 Alright, anyways, my next generation podcaster, my son Zika, learning how to do the 01:41.000 --> 01:42.000 ever pod at. 01:42.000 --> 01:48.000 Anyways, it's Earl from iampodcasting.com and just want to let you know the podcasts working 01:48.000 --> 01:49.000 now. 01:49.000 --> 01:53.000 So, stop on by, check it out and where we talk about how to market your podcasts and how 01:53.000 --> 01:56.000 to make some dough with your podcasts. 01:56.000 --> 01:58.000 We're just still in a need here. 01:58.000 --> 02:00.000 Take care and we'll talk to you later. 02:00.000 --> 02:03.000 Alright, Josh, since Zika to do the intro, you get to do the outro. 02:03.000 --> 02:10.000 Let's hear your best boyly-ly-ly-ly. 02:10.000 --> 02:40.000 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey 02:40.000 --> 03:10.000 hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, well, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 03:10.000 --> 03:14.320 Microphone that is we see does actually have a type rating on it somewhere. It says 03:15.600 --> 03:17.600 That's stupid 03:17.600 --> 03:23.280 And I spent all this money on getting the hyped up. Oh, here it is. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I have p799 03:23.600 --> 03:27.440 It's the memory one gigabyte FCC ID 03:28.560 --> 03:31.040 QDmi fp799 03:32.160 --> 03:37.840 Battery 1.5 alkaline double a size times one a symbol in China 03:38.480 --> 03:43.120 Okay, so I got this because what I liked about the specs. Well, first of all 03:43.680 --> 03:47.920 It takes regular sized jacks the the Samsung yep that I was using before 03:49.040 --> 03:54.880 Doesn't take a regular jack. It has to have like some mini mini plug its own proprietary cable 03:56.080 --> 03:59.280 This one does have regular sized three and a half 04:01.040 --> 04:06.000 Whatever jacks, you know the regular headphone and lining or mic jack. Here's what I like about it 04:06.800 --> 04:10.000 First of all, I river it's like you know, I thought it was going to be like a really big 04:10.000 --> 04:14.800 Independent kind of vibe of heard a lot of people about about the company and that they've got some good stuff going on 04:14.800 --> 04:17.200 And they also I guess they do some video 04:17.840 --> 04:21.600 Versions of this this is like one of those it looks a lot like the yep actually. It's kind of 04:22.080 --> 04:25.840 You know triangular and shape and and tiny can slip right into your pocket 04:26.560 --> 04:28.560 the interface 04:28.960 --> 04:35.920 Wasn't too hard to learn basically it's got a file system and you route around the file system has a very rudimentary way of setting up a playlist 04:36.960 --> 04:42.640 Other features which very much like you know, I told you this that has to be one chip said that it's just come out that everyone's 04:42.880 --> 04:46.320 Using because it has a tune and FM tune or in it which you can record from 04:47.280 --> 04:52.000 It does what I do like it has it can switch between a microphone on the the in jack or a line 04:53.200 --> 04:56.960 And you can set your recording all the way up to I think a hundred ninety two 04:58.240 --> 05:03.120 Kilbitz at a 44.1 case sample and that's really what interested me in it 05:03.840 --> 05:05.120 Um 05:05.120 --> 05:09.840 a couple of things are a little well some strange and summer outright disappointing 05:10.960 --> 05:16.240 The first is it appears to be a USB one not a USB fast 05:16.240 --> 05:18.240 USB 2.0 05:18.960 --> 05:24.080 Which is all actually kind of a mood point because when you plug in this 05:25.280 --> 05:33.040 The I River the 799 into the USB port on your computer at least on my Mac and I'm pretty sure it's gonna be the same on 05:33.200 --> 05:35.840 Windows it doesn't mount your 05:36.880 --> 05:42.320 Device as a drive as the yep did or as you'd expect with any other kind of like storage device 05:43.280 --> 05:46.640 No, in fact you have to use their manager 05:47.200 --> 05:49.840 Wait a minute. Let me see if I can bring that up. It's called the 05:50.880 --> 05:52.880 I River music manager 05:53.440 --> 05:58.480 Boeing bad Boeing because you know, I'm not like I'm managing podcasts here not music 05:59.440 --> 06:04.080 So I want to talk about that and a few other rather strange things 06:04.080 --> 06:06.880 But first let's get out to all the the positive part of 06:08.080 --> 06:11.120 Of the I River is that on the built-in microphone 06:11.120 --> 06:16.880 I was extremely impressed how well it functioned how well it could pick up a conversation 06:17.440 --> 06:23.520 Because it's kind of most just made a plastic it you know you have to be careful shifting your fingers around if you're kind of holding it as a mic 06:23.840 --> 06:25.840 In fact you'd almost want to have an extender 06:26.400 --> 06:35.600 Beton that you could you like slip it into and then you know just use it as a microphone because I tried it out Sunday night with with Patricia here at 06:36.640 --> 06:40.240 At Curry Cottage as she was cooking now she cooks almost every single night 06:40.240 --> 06:43.440 I literally have to drag her away from the kitchen to say let's go eat out 06:44.000 --> 06:50.080 She likes cooking and she enjoys it and now that we have a kitchen that I can kind of fit into and has more workspace 06:51.280 --> 06:52.880 Yes, I too I'm 06:53.040 --> 07:00.720 Following along I'm the sous chef du cotage. I am learning very much and here's and we've always talked about doing a podcast 07:00.720 --> 07:03.520 We're Patricia would actually cook so this is not it, okay? 07:03.520 --> 07:08.800 This is us basically drinking a glass of wine and her talking about dinner and we don't drink at all 07:08.800 --> 07:12.160 So even one glass of wine kind of makes us a bit tipsy 07:12.160 --> 07:15.840 But this is just a precursor to what it could be and it was a handy test at the same time 07:16.400 --> 07:18.400 to check out the I River 07:18.480 --> 07:24.960 Wait a minute what's the model the IFP-799 MP3 recorded this is recorded 64 07:26.560 --> 07:30.560 Kilbitz and a 44.1k sample 07:31.680 --> 07:35.280 As we were in the kitchen at the cottage Sunday night okay 07:36.240 --> 07:39.760 Another test this is without the automatic gain control okay 07:40.720 --> 07:42.720 All right 07:43.120 --> 07:47.840 Today today dinner is 07:49.920 --> 07:52.800 Pointy Cabbage pointy habit point 07:54.800 --> 08:00.080 Well, there's a cabbage with a big point and we have sweet potatoes 08:00.880 --> 08:06.320 Said like yes, which we gonna yeah, which we're gonna prepare with 08:06.960 --> 08:08.960 butter 08:08.960 --> 08:10.960 By the way 08:10.960 --> 08:13.680 Check out the Madonna accent on Patricia there 08:14.080 --> 08:23.680 Give the girl one glass of wine and she's the material girl butter cinnamon cinnamon sugar a little bit of nutmeg pepper and salt 08:26.400 --> 08:28.400 Dash of milk 08:28.880 --> 08:30.880 Skin hole 08:31.440 --> 08:36.720 Whatever you prefer and then you can mesh mesh it and 08:37.760 --> 08:44.720 I think it's a lovely combination with my pointy cabbage. Yeah, how are you preparing your pointy cabbage? 08:45.760 --> 08:50.400 Also a little bit of nutmeg a little bit of a flower and a little bit of milk and 08:51.440 --> 08:54.720 because I really diced it really small a 08:55.600 --> 09:02.480 Piece of butter just really little piece of butter and some some pepper some black pepper 09:04.160 --> 09:11.040 And we have some meat today the meat is a turkey thigh coming out of the oven 09:12.240 --> 09:19.200 From Saintsbury that from Saintsbury nicely. It was two for one, but I forgot to buy to get the other one 09:20.560 --> 09:22.560 I saw that oh my saw 09:22.640 --> 09:27.040 Buy by one get one free and you want one, but you forgot your free one and I forgot my free one 09:27.600 --> 09:29.680 Yeah, I'm not used to that, you know 09:30.400 --> 09:33.600 Now because somebody else always did the grocery shopping 09:34.480 --> 09:38.560 But how much better is it now that you do it yourself? Well, I think we have 09:40.320 --> 09:42.320 I think I have a nicer 09:43.680 --> 09:45.680 Fantasy 09:46.320 --> 09:52.240 Oh, yes, we can't put yeah, nicer combinations and I think so and we 09:52.640 --> 10:00.320 I've prepared it right now and he saw that and what the important thing is you go while you are cooking 10:01.040 --> 10:02.640 Yes, have a nice 10:02.640 --> 10:06.960 Glass of symphony out white symphony though. This is why it's it's pinky 10:08.080 --> 10:10.480 We call it whites in from the I get ripped off 10:12.480 --> 10:14.480 It's a car 10:14.480 --> 10:19.280 It's oh, what do you think it's official colored? Yeah, it's not official. No, it's not 10:19.920 --> 10:25.840 But um, make sure you have something to drink normally we don't drink, but it's always nice on a Sunday 10:26.560 --> 10:32.720 And we thought why not it's called outside have a nice glass while you pretend dinner so 10:33.840 --> 10:35.840 Enjoy 10:35.840 --> 10:37.840 Cheers 10:40.080 --> 10:42.080 Okay, so 10:42.480 --> 10:44.800 The hell was that I was me turning it up oops, sorry about that 10:45.760 --> 10:47.760 So in all 10:47.760 --> 10:50.160 Considering that was just the built-in microphone, which sounds 10:51.120 --> 10:56.000 Reasonably shitty. I tried one test with the automatic gain control on and it was all over the place like a 10:56.800 --> 11:01.040 Big compressor, you know bringing up all the silent noises and you can set this thing 11:01.280 --> 11:04.400 Basically that you can use it as a spy recorder and put it somewhere and 11:04.960 --> 11:12.480 It can be voice activated or sound activated and it can record at this high quality of this quality that you just heard it can do 36 hours 11:12.800 --> 11:18.640 You know, so it's it's perfect in a pinch just to carry around you know if you if you want to record something and you need to be able to 11:19.440 --> 11:26.240 To get it at a good quality and know that it's gonna work. It'll be great and even better if you plug a real microphone into it 11:26.560 --> 11:30.080 So but in a pinch it's it's perfect and I'll be using it some more 11:30.800 --> 11:36.560 Also, you can just plug it into any any line out and you can record a really you know a decent decent sound 11:37.120 --> 11:45.360 As an MP3 player itself, it's interesting because you know the interface you you really just looking around in this root file system in fact 11:45.360 --> 11:47.360 It even says root and 11:47.760 --> 11:49.760 So if you open up the 11:49.760 --> 11:51.760 I river media manager 11:52.640 --> 11:54.640 how man's this 11:54.640 --> 11:57.360 lame they have it for windows and for 11:58.240 --> 12:00.800 And for mac and tosh for OS 9 and OS 10 12:01.760 --> 12:07.120 I don't want to mess with it right now. I'm opening up but basically what you have there is 12:10.400 --> 12:17.600 A window and in that window it represents the same file system tree that you can kind of see in the device itself 12:17.920 --> 12:19.280 And you can drag 12:19.280 --> 12:25.120 Drag and drop folders and or files right in there and that's kind of cool because you know you drag it in 12:26.080 --> 12:30.080 The downer as I said earlier is that it doesn't function like a USB drive 12:30.080 --> 12:32.880 That's the way it should be it's just mounts a drive and drop it right in 12:33.360 --> 12:38.320 So you have to go through this thing and I was like why the hell do I have to go through there particular window? 12:38.320 --> 12:42.240 Which you know I haven't seen the API for it or any other information 12:43.040 --> 12:46.160 It looks like that might be quite a barrier to entry and 12:46.880 --> 12:53.200 Well even worse so because there are a couple of songs on it which were MP3s and one of them actually was really cute 12:54.000 --> 12:59.040 It was like the I river song hold on let me just start this sucker up hold on a second 13:00.080 --> 13:02.080 Yeah, there it is 13:03.920 --> 13:05.920 Just go back 13:05.920 --> 13:08.560 It's called I river 13:09.280 --> 13:10.800 Catch 13:10.800 --> 13:12.800 Hold on catch the digital 13:16.000 --> 13:18.000 Flow foul 13:18.000 --> 13:20.000 Catch the digital 13:20.240 --> 13:21.760 Flow 13:21.840 --> 13:25.680 So I thought that'll be cool. I'll play that on on the source code very everybody 13:26.160 --> 13:27.120 Everybody 13:27.120 --> 13:31.680 So I dragged it out of that little super duper window onto my desktop and it went bloom 13:31.680 --> 13:34.240 Actually, I took a screenshot of it to include 13:34.880 --> 13:38.880 Today with the hell that I put it oh man, don't tell me I lost that what happened to it 13:41.120 --> 13:43.120 Oh 13:43.120 --> 13:45.280 Hold on I'll do it again. Oh, no, I can't 13:46.240 --> 13:51.680 Anyway, it basically I will find that that picture weight that I trash it by accident hold on 13:51.840 --> 13:53.840 I see 13:54.000 --> 13:56.800 How can that be I wouldn't have thrown that out that was too fucking good? 13:59.040 --> 14:05.760 I'm bear with me folks. Let me just scan everything. It looks like it's definitely not here. Okay 14:06.080 --> 14:12.960 Anyway, so it said cannot copy this because of digital rights management not allowed to copy like I would just want to play the song 14:14.080 --> 14:19.280 And what I don't have is I don't have a wire that will connect 14:20.240 --> 14:26.080 From the out well wait a minute. Do I have that? Do I have a wire that well? Oh, maybe I do hold on a second 14:26.080 --> 14:28.880 What an excellent idea. We're gonna root around the 14:29.920 --> 14:33.120 Hold on. I know how to do this wait let me in my bag. Oh 14:34.560 --> 14:37.920 This is good. This is good. Okay, so I'm gonna rout around their digital 14:40.160 --> 14:42.160 What am I looking for I'm looking for my 14:43.360 --> 14:45.360 cables 14:45.360 --> 14:47.360 Oh, she just love this 14:47.760 --> 14:53.760 Okay, here it is. What's our time right now? How are we doing 14 minutes good? Okay. Yes, I do have one 14:54.800 --> 15:00.320 I have a cable. So this is basically I'm gonna take this three and a half inch jack which is a part of my 15:03.520 --> 15:05.520 second 15:07.520 --> 15:09.520 This is a part of my 15:09.520 --> 15:15.520 Wireless mic set on plug that into the power book here into the mic in all right. This is gonna be cool 15:16.480 --> 15:17.760 Now take the 15:19.200 --> 15:21.840 headphone jack out right 15:24.000 --> 15:26.000 Now I just have to figure out 15:26.560 --> 15:28.560 Let's see so 15:30.960 --> 15:32.960 Let's get 15:34.240 --> 15:38.400 Line in here. Oh, this is gonna be awesome. Oh, we're stealing from the man 15:39.200 --> 15:41.200 Check it out everybody 15:42.160 --> 15:46.000 Okay, we're gonna send it out to 16 perfect built in 15:46.880 --> 15:51.280 Audio from line in oh, man. This is gonna rock if this works 15:52.560 --> 15:54.560 Okay, hold on 15:55.520 --> 15:57.520 Here it is. Let's see 15:59.680 --> 16:01.680 Okay, oh hold on of course 16:01.680 --> 16:03.680 I 16:08.000 --> 16:10.000 Everybody rock out down 16:32.320 --> 16:34.320 You 16:38.320 --> 16:40.320 Hey kids was that totally worth it or what 16:41.440 --> 16:42.960 There's more on here too 16:43.200 --> 16:45.600 So anyway, so that that totally sucked and then 16:46.960 --> 16:48.960 I thought that 16:48.960 --> 16:55.120 That was actually recording an MP3 and what it does is it records in its own funky format and doesn't actually 16:55.760 --> 17:01.840 Compress it into MP3 until you transfer what it will you drag and drop it out of this funky 17:02.800 --> 17:05.440 I River MIDI music manager 17:06.080 --> 17:10.960 Onto your desktop then it says do you want to make this an MP3? Would you like to leave it in this unrecognizable format? 17:11.280 --> 17:13.040 So of course you choose MP3 so 17:14.240 --> 17:17.600 Mixed feelings about this very mixed feelings like it a lot 17:18.000 --> 17:20.000 But and you know it's like 17:20.000 --> 17:24.880 I thought that you know these guys wanted to be different and all it seems that they're doing in the 17:24.960 --> 17:30.000 Differentiation game is you know different digital rights management, but I'll play with it some more 17:30.960 --> 17:36.320 Again using it purely for podcasting purposes trying to figure out you know what's what's the best 17:37.120 --> 17:39.120 Stuff to use and for the past 17:40.240 --> 17:43.600 Week of shows actually all of last week. I've been using audio hijack pro 17:43.600 --> 17:45.440 I think I should tell you about my new setup 17:45.920 --> 17:49.360 Ever since I got the breakout box which is the M audio two in 17:49.840 --> 17:55.600 Eight channels out. I'm only really using it for the microphone inputs whenever we clean up my office here and I get the 17:55.600 --> 17:59.760 Sennheiser when I find out where that is then we'll have a second, you know Mike that's plugged right in and 17:59.840 --> 18:04.240 The great thing about this is I'm basically hijacking the audio interface sending it to the 18:04.720 --> 18:09.040 To the headphones which I'm to the headphone jack in fact, which I'm wearing the headphones 18:09.040 --> 18:11.040 So I can crank up the sound nice and loud 18:11.600 --> 18:18.240 Haven't been able to do that because I was monitoring always monitoring off of the the Samsung yep as I was recording on to that 18:18.560 --> 18:22.960 So now I have an array of effects all set up 18:23.440 --> 18:30.400 Recording in AIFF and I compress to MP3 post show and I use the voice over plug in 18:30.960 --> 18:34.800 to basically channel sound flower 16 where I send all of my 18:35.840 --> 18:42.400 Quick-time players with MP3s anyone who knew with that just meant please write it down as we can 18:42.480 --> 18:44.480 Gotify what the fuck I just 18:45.200 --> 18:46.480 All right 18:46.480 --> 18:48.480 So more 18:48.480 --> 18:53.360 More fun tech stuff later on right now time for some music. I'm not very coral 18:54.400 --> 18:58.400 Through Howard Reenstein and he was he was so kind now is to 18:59.200 --> 19:02.800 Actually spell out his name because I've been this but I'm really good at bordering names 19:03.040 --> 19:09.760 It's Greenstein g r e n s t e i n which of course. I'm sure I've said was Howard Reenstein or 19:10.720 --> 19:13.200 Um, and I met him through the web 19:14.160 --> 19:17.520 I think we I think we knew each other from the MTV days and 19:18.960 --> 19:20.960 He basically 19:20.960 --> 19:26.640 Well, I'll read you this email which is a part of the production show notes for today's source code out of my favorite rock star and sister 19:26.960 --> 19:28.960 Barry corals about your release her second record 19:29.680 --> 19:33.440 Our next record and would love you to premiere track on the daily source code next week 19:34.400 --> 19:39.680 It's Barry's best for see record yet called confessions of an indie girl and it's officially available star 19:40.000 --> 19:47.040 December 12th at www dot Barry corals dot com b a r i k o r a l 19:47.760 --> 19:50.480 And the last time she was actually she toured in Europe for 19:51.920 --> 19:57.360 Little promotional tour and I was doing the big radio show at the time and she came on the show and a perform live 19:57.760 --> 20:02.240 Somewhere I still have that recording. I've been dying to dig it up. She's really talented 20:03.200 --> 20:05.200 Great great sound 20:06.080 --> 20:11.280 Totally right. I think for for pod safe music and more than happy to 20:12.240 --> 20:15.760 Present to you aspiring angel by Barry corals 20:18.750 --> 23:07.360 [ Music ] 23:07.360 --> 23:16.520 On safe and nutritious and good for you, Barry Coral, the planetary premiere on the Daily 23:16.520 --> 23:22.080 Source Code, aspiring angel more information about that in the production show notes for today's 23:22.080 --> 23:23.080 Daily Source Code. 23:23.080 --> 23:27.800 Today is Tuesday, December 14, 2004. 23:27.800 --> 23:33.720 And briefly just today we went to look for Stables for Christina's horse or herpony, Princess 23:33.720 --> 23:41.080 Arletta, who has been living back at the trainer's house, Luke's house for the past 23:41.080 --> 23:42.080 a couple of weeks. 23:42.080 --> 23:46.040 Christina was really antsy, of course she wants to see her baby. 23:46.040 --> 23:49.520 So we've been looking around for Stables in the Guilford area. 23:49.520 --> 23:52.480 This would be a major hint, anyone listening if you have any good ideas, something 23:52.480 --> 23:54.600 close by, it'd be very nice. 23:54.600 --> 23:58.680 We need like half-livery option, you know, during the week where they basically feed it so 23:58.680 --> 24:04.080 it doesn't starve and then we can show up four or five times a week and ride and have fun. 24:04.080 --> 24:10.480 But no, seriously, so we're shopping around, you know, it's a lot of horse-horse-suffices 24:10.480 --> 24:11.480 here. 24:11.480 --> 24:15.120 Can you tell that I'm not really a horse guy, but I really love my daughter who loves 24:15.120 --> 24:16.120 her horse. 24:16.120 --> 24:19.960 I do love her horse too, so we'll figure that out. 24:19.960 --> 24:24.880 Something else that we've been dealing with in the past couple of weeks, noticed a growing 24:24.880 --> 24:30.720 number of complaints about the accessibility of the daily source code MP3 files. 24:30.720 --> 24:40.400 Now, in all basic probability, I'd say 99% certainty, this is because of the enormous 24:40.400 --> 24:45.560 amount of subscribers to the show and we're seeing bits and pieces of the internet start 24:45.560 --> 24:47.320 to creek and to crack. 24:47.320 --> 24:51.680 And this is interesting because, well, you know, if this is happening to me now, it's 24:51.680 --> 24:54.840 going to happen to other people very soon if it's not happening already. 24:55.480 --> 24:59.400 And we're seeing some intermittent problems, basically what's happening is we're seeing 24:59.400 --> 25:02.360 downloads of the show fail. 25:02.360 --> 25:05.000 And Dave and I have been tracking this for quite a while. 25:05.000 --> 25:12.240 We basically, in November, at BloggerCon, I did before BloggerCon, we bought servers, 25:12.240 --> 25:16.720 as you probably remember, I was talking about that. 25:16.720 --> 25:20.520 And we got one or two servers with unmetered bandwidth. 25:20.560 --> 25:26.320 Now, it's a limited pipe, it's, you know, I believe it's 20 or 30 megabits. 25:26.320 --> 25:32.160 But in essence, you can pump only so much through it so that the 30 megabit pipe, but 25:32.160 --> 25:34.760 you can do that all day long without any penalty. 25:34.760 --> 25:37.960 And we have a couple of shows running on that server. 25:37.960 --> 25:43.720 The big ones, of course, would be source code, dawn and drew morning coffee notes and 25:43.720 --> 25:45.280 trade secrets. 25:46.080 --> 25:51.360 What we're seeing is these downloads fail and there's a whole bunch of different thoughts 25:51.360 --> 25:58.920 and ideas and really after doing a test today and before this show went up, I actually 25:58.920 --> 26:04.240 pinged the list that, of course, I'll point to in the production show notes, the list 26:04.240 --> 26:07.760 that the Dave set up, the little comment list there, where people could check to see 26:07.760 --> 26:11.200 how it was coming in from there different locations. 26:11.280 --> 26:14.920 We're seeing that most browser transfers are going quite well. 26:14.920 --> 26:20.720 Some of the iPodter clients, sometimes they'll break, sometimes they'll stop, then it'll 26:20.720 --> 26:23.280 be, and it's really it's unreplicable. 26:23.280 --> 26:25.280 You can't really figure out what the problem is. 26:25.280 --> 26:31.880 I'm pretty sure it's not going to be the iPodter clients because, you know, that's just 26:31.880 --> 26:37.840 and everyone's making an HTTP call, so it's somewhere along the line, it's failing. 26:38.480 --> 26:46.800 I don't know a lot about networking in bandwidth, this is also not Dave's area of expertise, 26:46.800 --> 26:51.640 but we have gotten a number of very good comments and good information. 26:51.640 --> 26:56.360 The basically says, okay, well, the problem is you're sitting on a tier three provider 26:56.360 --> 27:02.920 and, you know, the bandwidth that you've purchased is basically crap or not, you know, 27:02.920 --> 27:05.600 there's no service level agreement, perhaps, or, you know, there's a whole bunch of 27:05.600 --> 27:08.120 different issues that have to be looked at. 27:08.120 --> 27:10.120 That's part of the problem. 27:10.120 --> 27:14.560 You know, also, we're just, we're growing, you know, this stuff is getting so big, 27:14.560 --> 27:19.560 that it's going to come down to, well, a couple of different ways to solve it, eventually, 27:19.560 --> 27:23.200 I think there's just not going to be any other way, but to go with, you know, 100% bit 27:23.200 --> 27:28.080 torrent integration and everyone has to be able to support it and it has to work. 27:28.080 --> 27:33.960 And I think I'm going to start using bit torn pretty soon because no matter how many 27:34.000 --> 27:37.040 providers we get, you know, eventually, I think, when to get up to this point where it's 27:37.040 --> 27:41.120 just going to start breaking because there's too many iPod or clients and people who are interested 27:41.120 --> 27:46.680 in subscribe to the show, trying to get these MP3 files simultaneously, so spreading it out 27:46.680 --> 27:49.680 in a P to P fashion makes a lot of sense to me. 27:49.680 --> 27:57.200 Something that the, that the iPod of developers could do, it would certainly help me and 27:57.200 --> 28:01.720 and don and drew, and I'm sure more to come as the bandwidth crunch gets worse. 28:01.720 --> 28:06.680 And having developed an iPod or I know that this is something that may not, it's just 28:06.680 --> 28:10.720 basically a loop that you, that you could put into the program. 28:10.720 --> 28:16.720 If the download fails, it would be great if the iPod or client could not say, you know, 28:16.720 --> 28:21.880 skip it or put in the cash is not there or gone or whatever, but maybe you could go back 28:21.880 --> 28:25.920 in half an hour or 45 minutes and try it again or just some random time. 28:25.920 --> 28:31.360 And also, I, and I saw iPod or X do this, it sets up random times of grabbing the 28:31.360 --> 28:36.680 file for, you know, your iPod or goes out, not at the top of the hour, but at a random 28:36.680 --> 28:39.080 time that it's set, excuse me. 28:39.080 --> 28:47.800 So all that stuff is really going to help, and yeah, that would be the number one, the number 28:47.800 --> 28:51.320 one cool thing that we could do with our iPod or clients is to have some kind of 28:51.320 --> 28:53.160 resumable functionality. 28:53.160 --> 28:55.760 And I think that let me see Doppler had it in there. 28:55.760 --> 28:59.480 I'm looking at the comments here that, of course, are in the, in the show notes. 28:59.480 --> 29:04.520 Let's see this is from Erwin from Doppler Radio.net. 29:04.520 --> 29:09.120 Welcome early and flanders this day, download your lady, latest daily source code, heard 29:09.120 --> 29:11.600 you talk about download problems with a daily source code. 29:11.600 --> 29:17.840 I'm happy to tell you that Doppler 2.0, which I will release into the wild, is, supports 29:17.840 --> 29:20.720 resuming downloads, also known as byte-ranging. 29:20.720 --> 29:24.840 There you go, which helped me a lot to overcome the download stalling problems as you described 29:24.840 --> 29:25.840 in your podcast. 29:25.840 --> 29:26.840 Okay, thank you very much, Erwin. 29:26.840 --> 29:31.760 That would be great if we could get the other iPod or developers to do that. 29:31.760 --> 29:35.160 Because this is something that's, if it's happening to me, it's, you know, and of course, 29:35.160 --> 29:40.520 I'm going to work on finding new bandwidth solutions, and it seems only logical that 29:40.520 --> 29:45.480 we're going to run into, you know, bandwidth providers who are going to have some great ideas. 29:45.480 --> 29:51.000 But in the meantime, it would be great if we can definitely help each other by, you know, 29:51.000 --> 29:55.560 working around some of the, the nuttiness of the internet, if stuff breaks, that we can go 29:55.560 --> 30:00.040 back in kind of unbreak it, or at least try to still deliver on the promise. 30:00.040 --> 30:05.640 I'm also, hold on one second, and I just, sometimes I got to hijack the signal again, 30:05.640 --> 30:07.040 because I delay set signal. 30:07.040 --> 30:10.720 That's when you basically hear me talk like I'm drunk, that's when the delay sets it on 30:10.720 --> 30:11.720 my headphones. 30:11.720 --> 30:12.720 I got to figure out why it's doing that. 30:12.720 --> 30:14.720 That's not right. 30:14.720 --> 30:21.720 It also is going to say, um, but we had that about, oh shit, I don't know. 30:21.720 --> 30:22.720 You know what? 30:22.720 --> 30:24.640 You know what I need right now? 30:24.640 --> 30:26.400 You know what I really need? 30:26.400 --> 30:32.000 Put your hands on your iPod or your MP3 player at this moment, my brothers and sisters, 30:32.000 --> 30:33.840 and feel more cowbell. 30:44.720 --> 30:51.840 After a series of staggering defeats, Blue Oyster called assembled in the recording studio 30:51.840 --> 30:58.840 in late 1976 for a session with fame producer Bruce Dickinson, luckily for us, the cameras 30:58.840 --> 30:59.840 were rolling. 30:59.840 --> 31:05.720 Alright guys, I think we're ready to lay this first track down. 31:05.720 --> 31:12.360 By the way, my name is Bruce Dickinson, yes, the Bruce Dickinson, and I got to tell you 31:12.400 --> 31:17.000 if fellas, you have got what appears to be a dynamite sound. 31:17.000 --> 31:20.000 Coming from your Bruce, that means a lot. 31:20.000 --> 31:24.840 Yeah, I mean, you Bruce Dickinson, this is incredible. 31:24.840 --> 31:27.120 I can't believe Bruce Dickson digs our sound. 31:27.120 --> 31:32.920 These guys, I put my pants on just like the rest of you, one leg at a time. 31:32.920 --> 31:36.720 Except once my pants are on, I make gold records. 31:36.720 --> 31:40.120 Alright, here we go. 31:40.120 --> 31:45.560 If you don't feel the reaper, take one roll, one, two, three, four. 31:48.750 --> 32:08.750 [ Music ] 32:10.960 --> 32:12.960 Wait, wait. 32:12.960 --> 32:16.560 First, could you come in every second, please? 32:16.560 --> 32:19.280 That camera's going to be a great track, guys. 32:19.280 --> 32:20.280 What's the deal? 32:20.280 --> 32:22.000 Are you sure that was sounding okay? 32:22.000 --> 32:27.160 I'll be honest, fellas, it was sounding great, but I couldn't use the little more cowbell. 32:27.160 --> 32:37.320 So, let's take it again, and Jean, really explore the studio space this time. 32:37.320 --> 32:38.320 You got a Bruce? 32:38.360 --> 32:39.320 Really? 32:39.320 --> 32:40.320 Yeah. 32:40.320 --> 32:41.320 Explore the space. 32:41.320 --> 32:42.320 Okay. 32:42.320 --> 32:43.320 I like what I'm hearing. 32:43.320 --> 32:44.320 You're all there. 32:44.320 --> 32:46.320 One, two, three, four. 32:48.750 --> 33:08.320 [ Music ] 33:08.320 --> 33:16.320 Stop, Bruce, I'm sorry, could you come back in every second? 33:16.320 --> 33:17.320 Fellas. 33:17.320 --> 33:18.320 No. 33:18.320 --> 33:21.000 We just wasted two good tracks. 33:21.000 --> 33:25.560 This last one was even better than the first, but it's just that I find Jean's cowbell playing 33:25.560 --> 33:26.560 distract. 33:26.560 --> 33:27.560 I don't know. 33:27.560 --> 33:29.200 If I'm the only one I'll shut up. 33:29.200 --> 33:31.200 No, it's pretty rough. 33:31.200 --> 33:33.800 You know, I can pull it back a little if you like. 33:33.800 --> 33:34.800 Not too much, though. 33:34.800 --> 33:38.200 I'm telling you, Fellas, you're going to want that cowbell. 33:38.200 --> 33:39.200 I'm gonna drag. 33:39.200 --> 33:40.200 You know what? 33:40.200 --> 33:41.200 It's fine. 33:41.200 --> 33:42.200 Let's just do the thing. 33:42.200 --> 33:43.200 Roll it. 33:43.200 --> 33:45.200 One, two, three, four. 33:48.750 --> 34:08.750 [ Music ] 34:09.200 --> 34:15.200 Come on, Jean, don't do that. 34:15.200 --> 34:16.200 No. 34:16.200 --> 34:19.200 That, that, it doesn't work for me. 34:19.200 --> 34:21.200 I gotta have more cowbell. 34:21.200 --> 34:24.200 Don't blow this forest, Jean. 34:24.200 --> 34:27.200 Could be, could be itself a scene. 34:27.200 --> 34:29.200 Can I just say one thing? 34:29.200 --> 34:30.200 There, baby. 34:30.200 --> 34:31.200 Just say it. 34:31.200 --> 34:35.200 I'm stare at here, stare at rock legend, Bruce Dickinson. 34:35.200 --> 34:36.200 A cock and a walk, baby. 34:37.200 --> 34:39.200 And Bruce Dickinson wants more cowbell. 34:39.200 --> 34:41.200 We should probably give him more cowbell. 34:41.200 --> 34:42.200 Hey, baby. 34:42.200 --> 34:44.200 And Bobby, you are right. 34:44.200 --> 34:45.200 Ambex selfish. 34:45.200 --> 34:48.200 But the last time I checked, we don't have a whole lot of songs 34:48.200 --> 34:50.200 that feature the cowbell. 34:50.200 --> 34:52.200 I gotta have more cowbell, baby. 34:52.200 --> 34:56.200 I'm gonna be doing myself with the service. 34:56.200 --> 35:00.200 And every member of this band, if I did perform the hell out of this. 35:00.200 --> 35:02.200 Guess what? 35:02.200 --> 35:04.200 I got a fever. 35:05.200 --> 35:08.200 And the only prescription is more cowbell. 35:10.200 --> 35:12.200 Thank you, Bruce. 35:12.200 --> 35:16.200 I think if I just leave and maybe I'll come back later, 35:16.200 --> 35:18.200 and we can lay down the cowbell on, baby. 35:18.200 --> 35:20.200 Jean, wait. 35:22.200 --> 35:28.200 Why don't you lay down that cowbell right now with us together. 35:35.200 --> 35:38.200 Do you mean that, Eric? 35:38.200 --> 35:39.200 Yes. 35:39.200 --> 35:41.200 Thanks for all of us. 35:41.200 --> 35:42.200 Thank you. 35:42.200 --> 35:45.200 Baby, before we're done here, 35:45.200 --> 35:48.200 y'all be wearing gold-pitted diapers. 35:48.200 --> 35:50.200 What does that mean? 35:50.200 --> 35:52.200 Never question Bruce Dickinson. 35:52.200 --> 35:53.200 Go. 35:59.200 --> 36:02.200 One, two, three, four. 36:04.200 --> 36:07.200 One, two, three, four. 36:19.200 --> 36:20.200 Yeah, everybody. 36:20.200 --> 36:21.200 Class, et cetera. 36:21.200 --> 36:22.200 All right, mine. 36:22.200 --> 36:23.200 Lou, it's the call. 36:23.200 --> 36:27.200 And of course, Christopher Walken, need more cowbell. 36:27.200 --> 36:31.200 And it also, so typifies the big, 36:31.200 --> 36:34.200 with Dave calls the monoculture of entertainment. 36:34.200 --> 36:37.200 We have the producer of Walken, the legendary Bruce Dickinson, 36:37.200 --> 36:38.200 who I only know is, 36:38.200 --> 36:40.200 Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden, I guess. 36:40.200 --> 36:42.200 And needs more cowbell. 36:42.200 --> 36:45.200 Need more goddamn cowbell, otherwise it'll never be a hit, gentlemen. 36:45.200 --> 36:47.200 Need more cowbell. 36:47.200 --> 36:49.200 Love the cowbell. 36:49.200 --> 36:56.200 I wrote this down with a link to a post here. 36:56.200 --> 36:57.200 Okay. 36:57.200 --> 37:01.200 We were talking about the yesterday, actually, after I posted the source code, 37:01.200 --> 37:04.200 I was saying, you know, in the source code itself, 37:04.200 --> 37:07.200 I talked about the opml files and how we're going to link that together. 37:07.200 --> 37:11.200 And all of a sudden it hit me, or at least the part of it hit me after, 37:11.200 --> 37:14.200 you know, after we were talking about it, 37:14.200 --> 37:15.200 and I was listening back to the show, 37:15.200 --> 37:17.200 I kind of sample through it and listen to different bits, 37:17.200 --> 37:19.200 listen to the sound levels. 37:19.200 --> 37:22.200 And it hit me like, wouldn't it be cool? 37:22.200 --> 37:26.200 So here, so let's presume that from the directory. 37:26.200 --> 37:29.200 And when I say the directory, I kind of mean it like a big virtual thing. 37:29.200 --> 37:33.200 Yeah, it's the directory that's at the ipod.org site, 37:33.200 --> 37:36.200 if you go to podcast directory or podcast directory. 37:36.200 --> 37:38.200 You'll see the directory and I filled up a couple more. 37:38.200 --> 37:41.200 I have a backlog about 150 new podcasts that have to go in, 37:41.200 --> 37:44.200 just from this past week and a half alone. 37:44.200 --> 37:46.200 So working on that. 37:46.200 --> 37:48.200 And if it takes too long, ping me again, 37:48.200 --> 37:51.200 let me know there is a suggestion link, please. 37:51.200 --> 37:53.200 But there's lots of stuff still flowing in there 37:53.200 --> 37:57.200 through all of the multiple nodes that I'm not maintaining at all. 37:57.200 --> 38:02.200 But it's also the same directory that you see in the ipod or x ipod or client, 38:02.200 --> 38:07.200 in the ipod or 11 client, in jpod or in most of the ipodters, 38:07.200 --> 38:11.200 because it's a format that programmers, developers can use, 38:11.200 --> 38:13.200 and kind of, you know, it's a consistent format, 38:13.200 --> 38:15.200 so they can pull stuff in and use that, 38:15.200 --> 38:17.200 and it makes it easy for you to subscribe. 38:17.200 --> 38:19.200 They can glean new data from that. 38:19.200 --> 38:22.200 The ipod or x top picks and most subscribe to databases, 38:22.200 --> 38:25.200 a combination of their information and our data. 38:25.200 --> 38:28.200 So, you know, we're trying to share as much of this as possible. 38:28.200 --> 38:32.200 And what would be cool, of course, if you have your show nodes, 38:32.200 --> 38:34.200 as a part of that directory. 38:34.200 --> 38:37.200 So that's one part, which I'm trying to figure out. 38:37.200 --> 38:40.200 So basically, you should have an attachment. 38:40.200 --> 38:42.200 If you're in the directory, and again, 38:42.200 --> 38:44.200 it could be an HTML version of that directory. 38:44.200 --> 38:47.200 In an ipod or on your mp3 player itself, 38:47.200 --> 38:51.200 there you should be able to drop down into the next level, 38:51.200 --> 38:53.200 which is basically my production show nodes. 38:53.200 --> 38:54.200 And here's the cool thing. 38:54.200 --> 38:57.200 So let's say, like yesterday, I forgot half of the things 38:57.200 --> 38:59.200 that I was supposed to, you know, post along there, 38:59.200 --> 39:04.200 and links, and other mp3s to link to, 39:04.200 --> 39:06.200 wouldn't it be cool if all you did, 39:06.200 --> 39:09.200 if you saw something in my outline, 39:09.200 --> 39:11.200 basically my production show nodes and said, 39:11.200 --> 39:13.200 oh, I have information for Adam on that. 39:13.200 --> 39:17.200 And you sent me a link to an opml file itself. 39:17.200 --> 39:19.200 I could copy paste that right in, 39:19.200 --> 39:23.200 and would expand the information that I don't have, 39:23.200 --> 39:24.200 so you can contribute to it. 39:24.200 --> 39:27.200 So we have this big metadata thing 39:27.200 --> 39:29.200 that we're, you know, basically it's connecting 39:29.200 --> 39:30.200 a tree to each other. 39:30.200 --> 39:34.200 It's a lot like weblogs kind of tilted on its side, I guess. 39:34.200 --> 39:36.200 I know if that makes any sense, but I got pretty excited 39:36.200 --> 39:40.200 by the idea that you could add just like you're adding 39:40.200 --> 39:42.200 a directory with an opml file, 39:42.200 --> 39:45.200 you can add information to my podcast show nodes, 39:45.200 --> 39:47.200 which will basically show up anywhere. 39:47.200 --> 39:49.200 They'll show up in the directory, 39:49.200 --> 39:52.200 in the HTML version of the iPod or directory, 39:52.200 --> 39:55.200 but they can flow out to anywhere that the directory is being used. 39:55.200 --> 39:57.200 And you can kind of walk along this directory 39:57.200 --> 40:00.200 and do all kinds of cool things where you can look for new stuff. 40:00.200 --> 40:01.200 You could search it. 40:01.200 --> 40:04.200 It's really wonderful the way I understand it, 40:04.200 --> 40:06.200 which is still quite minimal. 40:06.200 --> 40:09.200 And then I just want to leave you with a couple of things. 40:10.200 --> 40:12.200 Well, first let me hit you with this one, 40:12.200 --> 40:14.200 because this is another great of 40:14.200 --> 40:17.200 another piece of great work from our daily source code listeners, 40:17.200 --> 40:19.200 as we almost wind down the show for today. 40:21.200 --> 40:22.200 Hey, they're Adam. 40:22.200 --> 40:25.200 It's fun time Ben over a tracks up the tree. 40:25.200 --> 40:27.200 Just sending you this audio comment to tell you 40:27.200 --> 40:30.200 that I'm going to be at the Bitty's Holiday Party. 40:30.200 --> 40:33.200 This Tuesday, December 14th, 40:33.200 --> 40:35.200 at the living room. 40:36.200 --> 40:38.200 You mentioned it on your show, 40:38.200 --> 40:40.200 and I said, hey, I should be there 40:40.200 --> 40:43.200 being that I'm a Manhattan resident, 40:43.200 --> 40:46.200 or at least I work in Manhattan. 40:46.200 --> 40:48.200 Hi, Adam. 40:48.200 --> 40:49.200 It's Dan, fun time day in, 40:49.200 --> 40:52.200 from fun time Ben's tracks up the tree. 40:52.200 --> 40:53.200 Podcast. 40:53.200 --> 40:54.200 I just want you know, 40:54.200 --> 40:55.200 I've been sitting in the other room, 40:55.200 --> 40:58.200 and Ben has been in here recording over and over 40:58.200 --> 40:59.200 and over again, 40:59.200 --> 41:01.200 his audio comment that he wants to leave for you. 41:01.200 --> 41:02.200 He wants to get it just right. 41:02.200 --> 41:04.200 But it's taking him a while. 41:04.200 --> 41:05.200 So this is what I thought I'd do. 41:05.200 --> 41:07.200 I just want to come in here and let you know 41:07.200 --> 41:09.200 that fun time Ben would love to invite you 41:09.200 --> 41:11.200 to join him for a, 41:11.200 --> 41:13.200 the Sylvie's Bitty's show at 11 o'clock 41:13.200 --> 41:14.200 in the living room at New York City. 41:14.200 --> 41:15.200 I'm at those street. 41:15.200 --> 41:16.200 I think it's 145. 41:16.200 --> 41:18.200 Let me say I've heard about 700 times 41:18.200 --> 41:20.200 that I think it's 145, 41:20.200 --> 41:21.200 let those street. 41:21.200 --> 41:23.200 Sorry, 154, 41:23.200 --> 41:24.200 let those street. 41:24.200 --> 41:27.200 And he would love to meet you 41:27.200 --> 41:30.200 if you'd like to come down and see the show. 41:30.200 --> 41:32.200 And he's going to be wearing, 41:32.200 --> 41:33.200 he's always in Britain. 41:33.200 --> 41:34.200 He's not coming to the show. 41:34.200 --> 41:36.200 Then why are we leaving this audio? 41:36.200 --> 41:37.200 I'm inviting the audience. 41:37.200 --> 41:38.200 Oh, sorry. 41:38.200 --> 41:39.200 Adam. 41:39.200 --> 41:40.200 I'm sorry. 41:40.200 --> 41:41.200 We're inviting the audience. 41:41.200 --> 41:42.200 I'm sorry. 41:42.200 --> 41:44.200 I didn't hear that part from the other room. 41:44.200 --> 41:45.200 700 times. 41:45.200 --> 41:47.200 But he's going to be wearing a yellow shirt 41:47.200 --> 41:50.200 with unicorns making love on it. 41:50.200 --> 41:52.200 And that's how you'll know it's him. 41:52.200 --> 41:53.200 Yellow T-shirt, right, 41:53.200 --> 41:55.200 with two unicorns making love. 41:55.200 --> 41:58.200 So dear listeners and Adam, 41:58.200 --> 41:59.200 thank you so much for your time, 41:59.200 --> 42:00.200 your patience, 42:00.200 --> 42:02.200 and we hope to see you at the show. 42:02.200 --> 42:03.200 All right. 42:03.200 --> 42:04.200 Take good care. 42:04.200 --> 42:05.200 Bye-bye. 42:06.250 --> 44:42.200 [ Music ] 44:42.200 --> 44:47.200 And do whatever I please. 44:47.200 --> 44:50.200 You don't own me. 44:50.200 --> 44:52.200 You never have. 44:52.200 --> 44:54.200 You never will. 44:54.200 --> 44:57.200 You don't own me. 44:57.200 --> 45:02.200 You don't own me. 45:02.200 --> 45:10.200 You don't own me. 45:10.200 --> 45:17.200 You don't own me. 45:17.200 --> 45:19.200 Check it out. 45:19.200 --> 45:24.200 Be these backmasking. 45:30.200 --> 45:35.200 Oh, that's for me, everybody. 45:36.200 --> 45:40.200 Remember I was telling Analy. 45:40.200 --> 45:43.200 We'll interview you for a while that the biddies did a backmasking song. 45:43.200 --> 45:46.200 Let's play that backwards and see what they say. 45:46.200 --> 45:47.200 Here it comes. 45:47.200 --> 45:48.200 Can I do that? 45:48.200 --> 45:49.200 Yeah, here we go. 45:49.200 --> 45:52.200 Play backwards. 45:52.200 --> 46:07.200 That was kind of disappointing. 46:07.200 --> 46:10.200 What the hell was that? 46:10.200 --> 46:12.200 Good night. 46:12.200 --> 46:14.200 Good night. 46:14.200 --> 46:16.200 That's what they're saying. 46:16.200 --> 46:17.200 Good night. 46:17.200 --> 46:18.200 Backwards. 46:18.200 --> 46:20.200 Tonight at the living room in Manhattan. 46:20.200 --> 46:24.200 It's the most serious bitties make sure you catch the show. 46:24.200 --> 46:26.200 And that's it for the source code for today. 46:26.200 --> 46:27.200 You're walks over. 46:27.200 --> 46:32.200 A little bit long, but you deserve the long walk. 46:32.200 --> 46:35.200 I just want to leave you with a thought that Ron Bloom. 46:35.200 --> 46:40.200 Dave and I have been talking with considering our new venture and podcasting, 46:40.200 --> 46:43.200 where we see each other at the beginning of the new year. 46:43.200 --> 46:47.200 You know, the iPod really made it hip to download music. 46:47.200 --> 46:52.200 But it's the podcast that you're determined just how hip you really are. 46:52.200 --> 46:55.200 Depending on what you have on your iPod. 46:55.200 --> 46:58.200 Or comfortable and be three players. 46:58.200 --> 47:01.200 With digital rights, music player management crafts. 47:01.200 --> 47:02.200 All right, everybody. 47:02.200 --> 47:04.200 Tomorrow I will be back. 47:04.200 --> 47:07.200 We've got Clark Boyd from Boyd. 47:07.200 --> 47:12.200 Boyd from WGBH coming into town into Lovely Gillford. 47:12.200 --> 47:16.200 Doing a piece about me and my lack of bandwidth. 47:16.200 --> 47:17.200 Oh, British telecom. 47:17.200 --> 47:21.200 You're going to love this because it's a co-production with the BBC. 47:21.200 --> 47:22.200 Oh yeah. 47:22.200 --> 47:25.200 What was the chairman's name again? 47:25.200 --> 47:26.200 Thank you. 47:26.200 --> 47:27.200 Thank you. 47:27.200 --> 47:28.200 Everybody. 47:28.200 --> 47:29.200 See you tomorrow. 47:29.200 --> 47:30.200 Bye.