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Hey, what's up, everybody?

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It's just Karen.

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And this is Junior Bitches from
the Lunatic Radio.com show.

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And you'll listen to Adam Curry
on the daily source code podcast
player.

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You know, that dude with the
fantastic hair from MTV.

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Yeah, he was beautiful back
then.

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How are you doing?

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How are you doing?

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Hey, everybody.

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How are you doing?

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Welcome to your daily source
code.

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It is Wednesday, December 15,
2004 coming to you

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from Curry Cottage in the United
Kingdom of the great

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pile of Britain.

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Something like that.

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Hey, friends, family world
leaders.

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Welcome to the Big Show.

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I know the GM Pack Day, which
puts me at recording the show

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at 11 o'clock this evening.

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I spent most of my time at
Starbucks, though, as usual
today.

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But not doing a podcast.

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I had a visitor from out of
town.

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This time it was Clark Boyd from
WGBH in Boston.

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You know, GBH, of course, from
there.

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Excellent morning stories
podcast.

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Hold on a second.

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I've seen a phone call here.

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Oh, wait a minute.

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It's my friend.

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Hey, Dave, how you doing?

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Good.

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I'm in the middle of the source
code.

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I just started the show and you
called.

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I figured I'd pick up.

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Yeah, why don't I call you back
after the show?

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I'll just run through everything
and you're going to be up for a
while.

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Oh, that's right.

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I'm going to be up for a while.

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Yeah.

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I'll call you in about an hour.

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Okay.

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Oh, man.

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See, now that would have been
great if I had a way to actually

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conference Dave in, clearly,
that's up on his mind.

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So anyway, it's your daily
source code.

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As I said, I had a visitor from
WGBH in Boston today.

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Clark Boyd also does a lot of
shows that are co-produced with
the BBC.

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Actually, this morning I was at
the BBC again.

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This time it was for a program
called mouse mat, which kind of
makes me laugh,

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you know, because I guess I've
always learned to say mouse pad

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instead of mouse mat, but mouse
mat works for me.

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I actually have a mouse mat.

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I use a like a Persian rug, a
miniature Persian rug is my
mouse pad.

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So I actually do have a mouse
mat, a flying mouse mat.

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Magic, flying mouse mat, I
guess.

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So what it happens is, you know,
the BBC of course is in London,

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and I'm not going to slip out to
London.

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So they have a BBC Southern
Counties radio, which is located
at the

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University of Surrey.

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Surrey.

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Excuse me.

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And so they've basically got a
special little corner there,

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where they have an ISDN set, and
you sit there,

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and then the phone rings and the
system picks up,

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and then you hear the London
studio, and you've got a
microphone

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and a headset, and you kind of
have a conversation.

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So that was fun.

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Then I picked up Clark at the
train station.

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His train was on time, Clark
work.

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We went to, well of course, we
went to Starbucks,

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and I downloaded and uploaded
and showed him, you know,

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basically the podcast set up.

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He's a techie.

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He's a geekhead.

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So he was totally into all the
different wires and connectors

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that we've strung together to
figure out how to make these
podcasts.

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So it was good.

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Only, of course, it took a lot
of time,

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and I did take the time, and I
was happy to do it.

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But, you know, so by the time I
got home,

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and actually, I found out that
there is gridlock traffic

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and gulford, if you're caught
near the train station

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around 536 o'clock, you're
totally screwed.

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Who knew there was gulford
gridlock, but it's there.

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It really is.

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So it took me a good while to
get home,

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and I still had to get cat food.

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So it's, again, life gets in the
way of the art

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that we're trying to create here
with the podcast.

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Still have an excellent show
lined up for you.

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Tomorrow, by the way, is the day
that Alfian Benson come home.

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These are the two cute little
doggies

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that were stuck in limbo in
Atlanta.

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Locked.

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The key soon to be thrown away.

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Lee Wilkins and his lovely
girlfriend Jenny, you know,

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totally in despair.

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Now, the dogs are coming back
tomorrow.

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Totally 100% with the help of
the podcast community,

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the daily source code.

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I know it may not seem like a
huge amount

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in the world scale of things,

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but it was just beautiful to see
how everyone came together.

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And the doggies are coming back,
and that is excellent.

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And they'll still have to be in
quarantine for six months,

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but at least, you know, they
will be visitation rides.

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Conjugal visits, maybe, anyone?

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Hey Adam, after hearing you ask
people

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to donate some money, you get
Alfian Benson back the UK.

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I want to Alfian Benson.com

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and start to go to the old
process of donating some money
to them.

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Unfortunately, I never did
donate.

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After creating a PayPal account
for my could tell,

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I would have to transfer money
for my bank

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or pay some sort of charge to
enable my credit card

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to use that.

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Either way, PayPal claimed that
I would have to wait

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three to four days, I think, to
get money transferred over to
them,

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so I could use it online
purchases or whatever.

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They must have changed their
policy

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because I certainly recall
setting up my first account.

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I know even a European account,
and I'm a verified European
member.

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There were that means.

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It went pretty fast, as long as
you can lay down a credit card.

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But it's in light of all the
scams that are going on,

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and there isn't a day that goes
by that don't get the,

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hey, you know, here at PayPal,

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we just want to check and make
sure that you're secure.

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Yeah, click on this link.

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Man, I hate those guys that do
that.

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Anyway, let's continue.

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So, I thought to myself, you
know, by then,

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the money's part of me raised to
help out Alvin Benson,

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they're probably going to be on
a plane back to England.

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So, I've been trying to come up
with a solution

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that takes some ideas that I've
heard you come up with

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over the past few weeks,

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and, you know, build upon that,

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you know, I think we could help
out the podcasting medium

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and help out people at the same
time.

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Basically, my idea is in the
long run

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to have the podcast equivalent
of public television,

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like PBS.

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How about radio, like MPR?

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You know, you had the idea of
taking a series of shows

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and grouping it together

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on either one server or one XML
fee,

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something like that.

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Well, I think we could do that,

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and also combine that with a
sound method

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of raising some money.

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Instead of doing your
traditional marathon thing

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that you see PBS do,

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we could instead have a really
cool online website

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that would,

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the primary thing would be to
have as few barriers.

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No, I think we should auction
off dates with dogs.

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It's possible to get people
donate.

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Support a lot more than just
PayPal, you know?

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You know what?

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I guarantee you we can do this.

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I guarantee you, totally.

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There's a whole area that's wide
open

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for this kind of stuff in
podcasts.

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Let me see.

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That's the one thing you wanted
to say.

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Just want to move on to that
whole one.

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You have a lot kind of thing.

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Go to go.

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Really made a big difference.

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I don't know.

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What is it?

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It's sort of a rainy day fund.

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Okay.

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I'll say that for a rainy day.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry that you weren't able
to get hooked up with PayPal
Robert.

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I have to be honest.

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I have used PayPal,

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and I've used it for donation
purposes.

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And they take a pretty big vague
on the stuff that you,

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you know, that you send.

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I think in some cases like five
or ten percent,

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it's an amazing amount of money,

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which seems like kind of, you
know,

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well,

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I guess it works on the really
other micro payments.

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And that's how it,

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but the minute you get into like
hundreds of dollars,

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or even thousands of dollars,

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it kind of starts to defeat the
purpose with their fee,

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that they take from the middle
there.

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I wanted to talk a little bit
about,

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well,

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basically some stuff that's been
coming down the pipe that people
are talking to me about.

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Okay.

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The first thing is the Heineken
podcast.

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Everyone has pointed out the
Heineken podcast to me.

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And I just want to clarify,

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maybe the posting that I put on
my,

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on my weblog.

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I know a lot of people at
Heineken.

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I met once or twice Freddie
Heineken.

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He's passed away now,

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Patricia my wife.

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She is met Freddie Heineken many
times.

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And I think they actually got a
long,

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pretty well.

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He passed on about two or three
years ago,

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amazing guy.

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And fabulous company, Heineken.

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I mean, think about it.

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What are they selling?

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You know, water,

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selling water,

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primarily water,

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and some other stuff thrown in
there.

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So it's a great company.

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Family company,

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been around for a long time.

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It's a great brand.

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And they have kind of,

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I've always felt they've had a
bit of a

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a virgin records or virgin brand
kind of vibe to them.

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A lot of autonomy for local
countries to advertise.

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And they can be pretty wacky and
do wacky things.

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It comes up with creative great
ideas.

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They usually make use of small
advertising agencies.

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I knew some of the Heineken USA
folks.

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Of course, I knew more of the
Heineken folks in the
Netherlands.

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And so when I heard Michael
Butler of the Rockin' Old Geek
Show,

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who, of course, is a podcast
pioneers.

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Been on the podcasting scene
since I was,

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since way back when in August.

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He's a Heineken fan.

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He's a Heineken fan.

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He's a Heineiman all the way.

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That's just no doubt about it.

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You look at his ID3 tags.

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He's a Heineken logo.

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You look at his podcast logo.

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It's basically the Heineken logo
with Rockin' Old Geek Show in
it.

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And he loves the product.

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He really does.

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And he had been trying to get a
sponsorship.

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And I'd been listening and
following along with the show
where he called up Heineken.

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He called up some Heineken
office.

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And they were really nice about
it.

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But hey, basically we can't help
you out.

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We can't do a sponsorship
before.

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It only wants us just a case of
Heineken.

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Right?

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So I put in a couple of calls to
some of the smaller agencies.

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I know here on the Netherlands.

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And I said, hey, dude, it would
be so cool.

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Think of just this entire
community will be up and,

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and applauding for Heineken.

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If only you'll give this guy a
case of beer a month or
something.

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I just do something.

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You know, sponsoring some small,

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for Heineken insignificant way.

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But it'll make a big deal of
difference.

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And, you know, here's a very
happy use of your product.

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You know, what more can I say?

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And by the way, a lot of people
listen to him.

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And a lot of intelligent people.

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And a lot of, well, all kinds of
people.

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And people who like to drink
beer.

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So I put the call in.

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And what I guess what came back.

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I mean, there is no such thing
as coincidence.

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Now there's a small agency for
Heineken.

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That is creating a Heineken
podcast.

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And it was a small agency for
Heineken.

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That is creating a Heineken
podcast.

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And it will besides the fact
that you can't use Safari or

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or internet explorer browser on
a Macinton.

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Well, forget it.

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If you're a Mac, you basically
can't drink Heineken today.

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Which is very aggravating.

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The music is something totally
different from what the rock and
roll geek show is all about.

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And it just looks kind of a, I
don't know if it's 100% related.

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But this thing is the shame.

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And I put out a call to the, to
anyone who's involved in
Heineken.

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You know, we can, we can, we can
make this even better than a
Heineken podcast.

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Why doesn't Heineken underwrite
one of the premier pioneer
podcasters?

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And you already told you the
price.

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You know, and of course, I'm a
business man.

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So I want my bottle a month out
of it.

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You know, come on.

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You know, the sun don't rise
from nothing here.

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But please consider it.

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How it's turned into a pretty
good job when he,

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when he promoted Heineken.

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This is one way that the rock
and roll geek could have done
it.

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But I think he would do it
differently.

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But what the heck, here's an
exam.

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Heineken beer, baby.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, man.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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This, by the way, is a part of
my grandmaster plan.

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David, I talk about this all the
time.

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It's happening right here.

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Wouldn't it, you know, all, you
know, with podcasting,

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people are going to skip past
the commercials if you have
advertisements.

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News flash, revolutionary
concept.

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Let's make the commercials
interesting.

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So people will actually pay them
and not play them and not get
paid for it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Come here, baby.

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Yeah, come on.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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It's orgasmic.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Okay.

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Well, you get the point, right?

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So, hi, Nickon.

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Come on, man.

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Let's get that case over here.

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Well, yeah.

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And while we're talking about
the rock and roll geek,

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we might as well crank up some
tunes by his band.

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American Hardbreak.

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Here's bitch.

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[ Music ]

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, silloo,
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah you, yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah

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It's your daily source code a
whole lot. I'm doing that
drunken thing again once I don't
know what it is

17:45.880 --> 17:51.080
This is something that I'm
seeing all over the place
somehow when you're capturing
audio on your Mac and Tosh

17:51.080 --> 17:55.160
Eventually a delayed builds up
and it's just like it's
milliseconds, right?

17:55.160 --> 18:01.560
But it doesn't matter what
you're using. I happen to be
using audio hijack pro, but
actually an email was swirling
around today

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That it's still hard. It's we do
not have good podcast software
at all at all

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We need to find something.
There's a company out there
called de let

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Dot let or dot some people
pronounce a definitely dip the
day let D-A-L-E-T and they make

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Radio station software. It's PC
based and just it runs on you
know a regular PC

18:26.420 --> 18:33.520
But it uses some extra hardware
bits, but their interface is
totally right for podcasting for
making radio on

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On a computer if they would make
a like for a light version that
would be you know a huge market
sure

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You know, they sell basically
the big radio stations and big
broadcast corporations, but I
think a light version would be
not only possible

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That totally cool just one more
thing about

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American heartbreak

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They're going on tour any day
now not coming

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Through the UK unfortunately.
It's a very expensive country to
tour in

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Especially considering that the
pound is now about almost two
dollars

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So and you know, and yeah, they
do spend a pound like a buck
back home

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Sure, milk may have kind of a
similar value in price, but now
not an easy place to tour

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I know the guys are going
through Rotterdam. I should
check it out because

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My plans have changed now as
well mom got the call that she
goes into the hospital on

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Sunday

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So the 20th Monday the 20th is
when the operation takes place

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So my plans are shifting a bit.
I'm of course going to go leave
earlier

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Which may mean that with some
luck maybe somewhere around the

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Love to find out after find it
from Michael Butler when they're
playing the playing in Rotterdam

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They're playing in Berlin, so
maybe I can catch a show that
would be cool. Anyway, great
song song there

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Always happy to play American
heartbreak on the show

19:53.200 --> 19:55.200
Just want to let you know that

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Yes today as I was talking about
the some of the OPML stuff

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You know, I'm not the only
person thinking about this good
old

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Drew from the Don and Drew show
was all over it and he's sending
me OPML files that contain the
archives to all of the Don and
Drew shows

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Basically a placeholder so that
his document will change
whenever you want to take a look
at

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What's going on with Don and
Drew for instance on the pod
squad page

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Or and this is what I tried from
the iPod or directory you would
basically have a you know

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A live update

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The OPML version works
beautifully. I mean I can plug
in anything I want

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Unfortunately the directory
doesn't want to eat that code so
we kind of got to figure that
out

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But it's coming together. I feel
I feel the vibe. I feel
something happening with this
OPML stuff

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It's happening something's
coming together. So if you saw a
note of the directory break

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horribly that was I was Drew and
I'm mucking about trying to
figure this out and

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Also a couple of some contact
with some of the iPod or
developers who are also now
trying to figure out you know
where where can we

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Pull this OPML in and you know,
what are the consistent factors?

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I've had the horrible habit of
putting a title on top of my
OPML files of my production show
notes

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Which basically is a directive
that that makes a page render
with the title being the title

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But there's a hash sign which
kind of screwed up some some
stuff. I think for the for iPod
or X

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I'm sorry. I think was for the
iPod or lemon team

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So I'm still trying to figure
that out one thing that I've
started doing though is in the
album

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title

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The album ID3 tag where normally
I'd say you know here's what's
on the show now

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I'm putting the URL in there to
the

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Production notes for that show
to the OPML file so

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Maybe that's something that you
know that that some of the iPod
are going to be able to suck out
of there and and use and display
is information

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I don't know you can certainly
test against my stuff and drew
stuff and give us some feedback

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You know, let us know and we'll
also keep an eye on the the iPod
developer list

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Is this great? I mean drew a
such a nice guy

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You know he's working with me on
this and he's letting me totally
fool around with his wife. It's
great

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I'm such a lucky bastard

22:28.600 --> 22:34.040
Adam this is Chuck Tomasi of
Chuckchat.com. I'm a long time
listener first time podcaster

22:34.600 --> 22:40.120
Just wanted to pass on a little
feedback and thanks regarding
all your pontification about RSS
and podcasting

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As in the UK a couple of weeks
ago on business but due to
terrible scheduling distance and
in person visit was out of the
question

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Would have been great to catch
up with one of the podfathers of
podcasting

22:50.840 --> 22:52.840
I've been living in Scotland
near Edinburgh

22:53.560 --> 23:00.040
It was funny noticing a lot of
the things you were talking
about in recent weeks on your
podcast things like the large
power plugs with switches next
to them

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The pop-in light bulbs in the
lamps and so forth. I haven't
got a chance to do some driving
on the left side of the road
using

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Manual transmission

23:06.920 --> 23:12.040
It's like having all your
clothes on backwards and trying
to right with the opposite hand
very strange

23:12.840 --> 23:19.240
I kind of cheated with my
opportunity to drive because it
was 2 a.m. and there wasn't
anybody out on at that time on
Friday morning

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But it was the safest way for me

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Even inspired me to create my
own podcast which I've called
Chuckchat

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Hopefully you've got your
broadband by the time you get
this. Thank you for a wonderful
show

23:29.800 --> 23:35.080
And keep up the good work. Thank
you everybody. Oh, hold on. Hey,
let's hear it for Adam

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It was more to the message.
Thank you, Chuck

23:42.440 --> 23:48.200
Okay, no, I don't have my
broadband yet. No, sorry Bob. I
don't have my broadband

23:49.240 --> 23:54.360
I was actually going to read an
article that a couple of people
pointed me to about

23:54.680 --> 23:56.520
Britain's digital diet

23:57.640 --> 24:03.880
Actually I posted the link and
see it was at Craig Patchett who
who sent me this link

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Basically people in the UK are
carrying around an enormous
amount of data. I'm sure it's
the same in the states as well

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But hey, you know, it's a it's a
BBC story so

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They're gonna talk about the UK
in this case, but instead of
that I'd like to read another
story

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I would read you a story kids

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Um

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The first person who pointed
this out to me was Ross Jones

24:29.240 --> 24:33.720
Ross has been all over my
bandwidth situation. This is
from the register

24:34.520 --> 24:36.520
I written by Tim Richardson
published

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Tuesday

24:38.520 --> 24:40.520
December 14th, 2004

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In the evening

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I'm sorry, 11 48 in the morning

24:46.360 --> 24:51.880
Grinch me time. Okay, here we
go. I'm gonna read this to you
because this is it's it's so
typical. It's so beautiful

24:52.200 --> 24:54.600
titled gilford runs out of
broadband

24:57.400 --> 25:03.560
Sudden surge in demand for DSL
broadband and gilford has left
BT that's British telecom

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On the hop and net users
twiddling their thumbs waiting
for high speed net access

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BT wholesale which provides DSL
that is resold by ISPs such as
AOL UK

25:14.840 --> 25:21.320
Tiscally and want to do UK has
confirmed that all capacity at
its gilford telephonic change
has been used up

25:22.120 --> 25:29.720
New DSL broadband customers in
the affluent Surrey town must
wait until BT installs extra
capacity in its exchange

25:30.280 --> 25:36.360
The UK giant telco says this
should come on stream by the end
of this week

25:37.480 --> 25:44.360
News that gilford had quote run
out of broadband was contained
in a blog by Adam Curry a mover
and

25:44.360 --> 25:50.360
Shaker and podcasting in essence
radio broadcasts for MP3 players
on December 3rd he wrote

25:50.600 --> 25:55.400
I just got off the phone with
British telecom who informed me
that there are no ports
available at my exchange and

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Someone would have to leave
before one becomes available.
Yes, there is a waiting list and
know

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They can't tell me where I am on
the list since it's sold out to
multiple ISPs

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A spokesman for BT acknowledged
that all the available broadband
connections in gilford had been
used up

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But denied that new users would
have to wait until someone
dropped off before being hooked
up

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He told the register quote we do
have people so I do the accent.
Yeah, I think so

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We do have people waiting on
that exchange the capacity has
been reached but new lines will
be installed this week

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The situation was not ideal he
added but it was not typical of
what is going on

26:36.440 --> 26:39.880
gilford was hit by a sudden
surge in demand

26:41.080 --> 26:45.560
BT was also unable to say for
how long the exchange has been
full

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11 days at least according to
curie or how many people are on
the waiting list for broadband

26:52.600 --> 26:53.960
Excellent

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Excellent reporting thank you
very much Tim Tim good job Tim
Richardson and full of shit

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By this week you're right

27:03.800 --> 27:05.800
You're right

27:06.840 --> 27:11.800
Of course I just went through
all the trouble of canceling the
other ISP

27:12.680 --> 27:16.440
You okay online. I come on. It's
not true. I can't believe it

27:16.680 --> 27:21.640
But you know what we got their
attention and that's what counts
and I really appreciate it and

27:22.280 --> 27:26.280
They will know that pod casten
has come to town everybody

27:27.560 --> 27:29.560
more on bandwidth

27:30.280 --> 27:31.800
today if you

27:31.800 --> 27:34.440
looked at the RSS file you'll
see that

27:36.200 --> 27:40.920
The daily source code was not
coming from the server we've
been using for the past couple
of weeks

27:41.080 --> 27:43.080
which was

27:43.080 --> 27:45.960
The server at opml.org
atom.opml.org

27:47.240 --> 27:52.600
This is a test and the reason is
that we've seen that you know
there's basically something

27:53.320 --> 27:55.320
going wrong in the network

27:55.320 --> 27:59.560
now that the amount of
subscribers has increased
significantly

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And downloads are breaking
probably primarily

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downloads that are done by
automatic iPod or clients

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It seems that people are having
better luck with

28:13.000 --> 28:17.320
with their browsers downloading
browsers but that kind of
defeats the whole point of iPod
or

28:17.640 --> 28:22.040
Anyway, you can see the post
things we've pointed to it in
the production show notes and in
a on my

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on my weblogg davis

28:24.360 --> 28:26.680
Really it started up you know it
was great started this

28:27.320 --> 28:31.000
Technical focus group on
scripting news to you know see
if we could

28:31.640 --> 28:35.160
Basically track down the issue
white it was breaking for for
people and

28:35.640 --> 28:39.080
And we're pretty sure it's it's
the bandwidth that

28:39.720 --> 28:43.800
We're being provided but we're
not 100% sure so let's see what
the results are

28:44.040 --> 28:49.640
If we put it on an older server
that well worked but we don't
know if it's going to work with
this type of volume

28:49.640 --> 28:54.680
So it could be a total disaster
you may not be hearing this show
at all this show may have been
lost in in bid hell

28:56.040 --> 28:59.560
Maybe bit torrent is is where
we're going to where it's all
going to come down to

29:00.360 --> 29:03.880
I think it's got to be there
pretty soon because otherwise

29:03.960 --> 29:06.840
You know, I'm not going to be
the only one that's going to
have this problem. I hope not

29:08.200 --> 29:13.800
Let's see what are we at now
pretty good about 30 minutes
perfect. I wanted to play
something that Tony Khan

29:14.760 --> 29:20.600
Morning stories podcaster and by
the way, have you noticed that
morning stories is is changing

29:21.160 --> 29:25.640
Where it used to be just morning
stories with an intro by Tony
now is the intro by Tony

29:25.720 --> 29:29.960
You get the morning story and
then there's like a whole kind
of crew there, you know

29:29.960 --> 29:36.520
It's like it's the Tony Khan
crew zoo with WGV age and it's
nice to hear you know

29:36.520 --> 29:41.720
There's some good banter going
on. There's some good shoot in
the shit which is not your
traditional MPR

29:42.440 --> 29:46.040
Style I guess and I'm really
enjoying that more of that,
please more of that

29:47.160 --> 29:53.800
And Tony did a conference
recently. He spoke at a
conference at Gisperkman at
Harvard and

29:54.280 --> 29:57.560
And he put together a sampler

29:57.560 --> 30:02.840
On force I didn't see see the
conference I couldn't listen to
it. I didn't I think it was
webcast

30:02.840 --> 30:07.320
But obviously my continuing lack
of broadband is not allowed me
to

30:07.960 --> 30:14.520
To download that I think I hope
maybe there's a podcast that I
can still subscribe to to get
all of the sessions from that up
to hunt around

30:15.800 --> 30:20.120
But he put together this sampler
which he gave me access to and I
was like

30:20.840 --> 30:25.720
It was so nice to hear a whole
bunch of different voices and
some of the stuff from earlier
days of podcasting

30:25.720 --> 30:30.840
I just wanted to replay this.
There's a lot of me in it, which
is not the reason I'm playing it

30:31.960 --> 30:37.400
But really it's just a it's a
nice flow and it's it's a whole
bunch of voices that you'll
recognize immediately and it's

30:38.600 --> 30:42.920
It's nice and I want you to hear
it's about four and a half about
five minutes, but worth a listen

30:50.120 --> 30:52.120
This thing on 30 seconds

30:59.480 --> 31:06.840
Welcome to the podcast from the
kate and it's Adam Keratt of
curries with any source code
where users and developers party
together

31:06.840 --> 31:10.120
And the glory of the internet
the radio brothers podcast

31:12.840 --> 31:17.320
It's Tuesday November 30th and
this is the news about
independent Christian music

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Hello friends and neighbors.
This is David Slashford. This is
the evil genius Chronicles

31:40.920 --> 31:42.920
The rip and read blogger podcast

31:44.120 --> 31:46.120
From conservative perspective

31:50.920 --> 31:58.680
The digital experience podcast
and food non-real music news and
information podcast reviews in a

31:58.680 --> 32:00.680
Front political talk with Dan
and Crane

32:00.680 --> 32:04.520
You've on recently radio show
today show features cursing
women

32:05.720 --> 32:07.720
Will powers dancing for mental
health

32:08.440 --> 32:15.800
If I'll go well, I got a curdle
panic. Oh whole computer crash
showed it and get saved so I was
fucked

32:16.280 --> 32:17.560
Hello

32:17.560 --> 32:20.040
Hey, good, you know, I'm in the
middle of the source code

32:21.880 --> 32:24.360
So can I call you back on like
15 minutes

32:30.680 --> 32:34.040
Shit all over the Louis 14 the
Louis cut-tours

32:36.120 --> 32:40.440
You but I want that I don't want
a free mouse pad. I want my
mouse by the mouse and that

32:41.560 --> 32:46.120
Shit my entire cup of tea
spilled all over the desk

32:47.080 --> 32:50.680
It didn't spill on the keyboard.
Well, I actually did spill a bit
on the keyboard

32:51.720 --> 32:53.720
all over the breakout box

32:54.280 --> 32:56.280
over the mouse pad

32:56.280 --> 32:58.280
Christina

32:59.800 --> 33:06.120
Okay, let me see what can I do?
Well, I continue to clean up
here. Listen to the bit of the
the sports pod, okay?

33:06.120 --> 33:08.120
Yeah, you'll enjoy that

33:08.120 --> 33:14.120
Wow, I'm watching it

33:14.120 --> 33:19.160
And Indiana Wow, I've never seen
anything like this in the NBA.
It's disgusting

33:19.960 --> 33:24.920
What happened is uh, Ron or
Tastel Ben Wall is someone hard
not that hard, but a little bit
hard

33:25.640 --> 33:27.640
And

33:28.280 --> 33:29.480
Whoa

33:29.480 --> 33:31.480
Fans are just coming from behind

33:33.720 --> 33:37.960
Hi, I'm Todd Mappin. Thanks for
tuning into the iLive Radio.org
podcast today

33:37.960 --> 33:43.640
We are coming to you from
Burgerling, Germany and my goal
today is to find the wall or

33:43.800 --> 33:45.800
What's left of the Berlin wall
anyway

34:02.040 --> 34:05.320
Spent Saturday night. It's been
night with about 500 other geeks

34:06.200 --> 34:08.040
Waiting in life in the new
Nintendo DS

34:08.680 --> 34:12.760
Something else that might
surprise you people in smaller
towns near St. Louis say

34:13.000 --> 34:19.800
They stands again from the
negative publicity. I'll tell
you what they're talking about
coming up tonight on holiday
news at six

34:24.120 --> 34:27.880
Welcome to real reviews films
worth watching on Michael
Gohagan today

34:27.880 --> 34:29.720
We're gonna talk about a fun
film

34:29.720 --> 34:38.440
1999 the Limey it is directed by
Steven Soderberg one of my
favorite directors and it stars
a great cast

34:38.520 --> 34:44.280
Terence stamp plays the kind of
title character Dave Wilson. I
think if we as sex right now

34:45.080 --> 34:48.360
It would give us a good rating
right on the show

34:52.120 --> 34:55.000
I think we should good thing
this isn't a video show

34:57.960 --> 34:59.960
Make up make up

35:00.360 --> 35:07.800
I don't understand why keep
having to leave this is your
show then you need to be writing
down topics because I have
topics another topic we were
gonna talk about was gonna be

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Frontline on PBS last night
about how Walmart's destroying
the world. I mean this was
something that you were so
interested

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I'm not gonna ring my hands over
this election if nine eleven had
never happened

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John Kerry would be present in
elect today. I have no doubt
about that

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Jim goes on Jim Gary

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I'm still shaking my head over
this a new democratic slogan in
the 2006 midterm

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quote you would vote for us if
nine eleven hadn't happened

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Your spit is hanging and you
have a fight because it's for
democracy and yet when we have
democracy

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You don't support him you would
join your two because he's not
doing what you want him to

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He's not even if you like he
want him to and become that
because of that because of that

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You commit a coup d'etat

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I want to tell people the
boycott wall

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It's the only choice because
they don't have everyone else
out of business. Well

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Yeah, but I don't even think
there was anything in there
being with Chris. They still
have downtown

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It was shitty and it was she
before Walmart came. It was
shitty after Walmart came. I
wrote on the text weblog about
this

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Thanksgiving episode of WGBH
morning stories

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I thought was fantastic. He'd
been blacklisted and knew he'd
never see another paycheck

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Unless he cooperated with a
committee recanted his views and
informed on all his friends

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Instead that Thanksgiving he
invited them all to a feast with

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We can't just a really dark
period in American history, you
know

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That's uh people think of that
and it's kind of housey in time

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There's like a 10 15-year period
where we locked up the Japanese
because of their ethnicity

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We you know the whole house on
American activities thing there
was a lot of horrible shit going
on back then as

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There is today by the way

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I guess eventually people will
try to figure out how to make
money on this

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If I gave you five dollars could
I be your first commercial
commercial person sure? I could
say

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No, you can't see anything. It's
25 dollars. We might eventually
have a sponsor or do a quick
review of a product and you know

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We'll always tell you exactly if
it's a advertised men or
something we like

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I'm still drinking honey. I love
the product whether they give me
free beer or money or not

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I'll still drink that product so
I found out today that there's a
rating system for podcasts

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So you guys go there and vote

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Yeah, so we can be number one
and take over the world and you
will be my first lieutenant

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I will no not you

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You listening yes you I'm
talking right to you

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No one else just you what ring
do I guess I'm talking

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Don't listen to him. I'm the
boss

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Jew he's a figure out president

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I'm Dick Cheney

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Would be here on your podcast. I
mean it's the sweetest ever

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I know I'm so inspired I might I
might pay pal you guys like two
bucks today

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I can split it however you want
a bucket of these or

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You know you go into Starbucks

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I don't have permission to play

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Abba

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See Betsy doesn't understand

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Copy left or create of comments
or any of that type of license

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They're like no, it's not

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I understand you're picking
through somebody else's garbage.
I understand that

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It's not the human

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It's a it's part of community

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It's a community. That's neat.
You can go sit in a field and
eat carrots and share your open
source

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We got to make money

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That's all I'm saying. I love
it. Oh my god

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Do you think she would give me
permission to play her music on
it? She would be like

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Music bad face is provided by
the generous permission of the
general readers

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Chantelreaders dot com by their
albums

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by their albums

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They're very very good

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By them

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Okay, the show just keeps
getting better and better keep
it up Butler. Huh. Thanks dude

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I don't think it's getting
better, but I appreciate the
nice words and it gives me the

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Cards to keep going on with this
thing. I'm having such a blast
doing this

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I've been really fortunate and
the fact that I've got so many
listeners just tells me that
some people are enjoying it

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And I can't tell you how
gratifying that is. See you then
mentioned our podcast and we
have popped up in there

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Yeah, someone that me 10 dollars
that podcasting wouldn't be
around next year. I don't really
want to

39:33.000 --> 39:37.880
Wow cuisine. I'm learning how to
speak Spanish. I am

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Learning the incident. There was
a an article in the London Times
podcast in the next big thing

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You've always wanted to be star

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It's my job

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To make you a star

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somehow you have a good ability
to communicate a lot of geeks
can't communicate. I know what
I'm ready to what

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This is an easy way to do it. I
don't see the other people. I
can't see the other people. I
can't see any of it.

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And I think that the BBC is
doing more podcasting
experiments than we're aware of

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Andrew Whitehurst sent me an
email also and I'll just like
you.

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Like the day you walked into my
life. So unmistakably like every
other woman. It's so different
in so many other ways

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And you well, you were my second
choice. I love you, baby

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Well, I'm going to wrap this up.
Do you want to say hi to
everybody?

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Say it right here. I like my
mom. Say bye bye.

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Bye bye. All right, everybody.
Good night. It's late. We're
tired. We're going to go watch a
movie

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later. Can I ink on it? Take
these everybody. I'll see you.
Thanks for listening. Thanks for

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subscribing, y'all. Bye bye. The
source code can be found in its
archives later. Show and the
podcast

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RSS feed and daily source code
dot com. I'll check you out
tomorrow everybody. Take care.

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How amazing was that? Let me
just turn this down for a
second. That's the end. Hold on
a second.

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Oh man. Wow. I apologize. It
wasn't five minutes. It was 10
and a half minutes.

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That was really good. And I
remember so many of those
moments. It's only in, yeah,

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Jesus man. This is good shit.
This is really cool. And it went
long so I'm not going to be able

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to talk about the I River hack
that I wanted to, but that of
course will be here tomorrow.

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Because I got some interesting
news about the I River after my
review from yesterday.

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Wow. I'm going to actually
listen to that podcast thing
again. It was more than just a

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sample. This had a whole flow to
it. I mean, it was, it was a
little bit of history in there
as well.

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Excellent job. I'm sure Rick had
something to do with it. I'm
sure the Tony has,

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has his, uh, it's got his team
working on that stuff. Man, what
an amazing, amazing amount of
work.

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Okay. Perfect time. 42 minutes.
Going to leave it at that for
today. I started a

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phone call to make today. You
know that. So I'll be back
tomorrow for the Thursday
edition

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of the Daily Source Code and
we'll be learning about hacking
our I River. So you can always

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send me email about that if
you've got more on the topic.
Add them at curry.com. Send

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it as an attachment if it's
under five megs. Take care. I'll
see you tomorrow. Bye bye.
