WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:20.240 Welcome to the Data Source Code, today is Thursday, December 6, 2004, coming to you from 00:20.240 --> 00:27.280 Curry Cottage in the United Kingdom, and the lovely, affluent, seri, town of Guilfe, 00:27.520 --> 00:36.320 hits the source code, I'm Adam Curry and I've got the sniffles, I don't know if this is man, 00:36.320 --> 00:42.400 it was like, I thought I was done this season with flu and stuff and it's nothing else bothers me, 00:42.400 --> 00:49.120 it's all it is, it's 100% snob. It's not like a painting pretty picture there for you. 00:49.680 --> 00:54.960 Once again, it's about 40 minutes, users and developers partying together, got some nerdy stuff 00:55.040 --> 01:00.480 to talk about today, some pot-safe music, in fact, one of my favorite bands, Mo Jones 01:00.480 --> 01:06.000 is going to play something like them later on, and also have a bit of cover villa I want to share with you. 01:11.280 --> 01:17.280 Pretty unabendful day, actually, went off to the Starbucks to the band with 01:17.920 --> 01:23.680 whole to the pipe, had to go suck on the pipe for a while, got that nice and early, I was there 01:23.680 --> 01:31.520 around one o'clock, usually I'm a little bit later than that, I had my regular Grande Capuchino, 01:31.520 --> 01:41.200 why is it the instead of saying regular large or small at Starbucks, what is it tall, that's 01:41.200 --> 01:49.760 their small, Grande is their media more, actually kind of looks large, and then humanoid, 01:49.760 --> 01:58.160 like the big golf size, is venti. God knows, makes no sense, but I noticed that I'm starting to 01:58.160 --> 02:03.200 catch up with a lot of stuff, not with email, of course, I'm planning on catching up on that 02:03.200 --> 02:08.160 starting Monday, I'll talk about that in a sec, but had some, yeah, really kind of got a little bit 02:08.160 --> 02:14.080 synced up with the podcasts and was able to actually, I think it's because I was playing with the 02:14.160 --> 02:20.160 I River, you know, that I think I downloaded more than my usual quote, just filling it up, 02:20.160 --> 02:24.160 and I was listening to a lot of that today, and came across some excellent stuff, lot of fun. 02:26.400 --> 02:32.240 See, what else did I do, really? Oh, yeah, of course, God did the network test, put the source 02:32.240 --> 02:38.640 code up on the old server, which as many of you, not noticed is a dot max server, it's just my regular 02:39.440 --> 02:45.040 Adam Curry homepage dot mac, where dot mac account, where actually I had the source code, I was running it there 02:45.040 --> 02:51.840 for a long time, and then we switched over to a new band with the new servers, and it was working fine 02:51.840 --> 02:56.720 up until I guess we hit some critical point, and thank you all very much for all the testing you've done, 02:56.720 --> 03:01.680 about what at last count there was about 90, 90 different comments of people who've been checking 03:01.680 --> 03:10.640 out doing AV testing today on the dot mac account versus the Adam.opmail.org URL, where you could find 03:10.640 --> 03:16.160 today's show, yes today's show, I'm sorry, and it was just great to see all the tests going on, 03:16.160 --> 03:23.360 and it looks like, I guess with the provider that we have, once you hit some critical mass of band with, 03:24.400 --> 03:30.400 instead of throttling, well, maybe that is the only way you can throttle overload of circuits 03:30.400 --> 03:34.640 is to just start refusing packets, and that's pretty much what people are seeing happen is 03:34.640 --> 03:40.880 packets being refused. Now there's a couple of different options that we can take. One thing I've asked 03:41.680 --> 03:46.480 I potter developers and I've already seen some requests going and feature requests, so I'm hoping 03:46.480 --> 03:53.200 that they will have time to put this in, not just for the case that I bumped up against, but 03:54.480 --> 03:59.920 anything can happen, shit just does happen, if you're sitting on a 30 or 40 minute download, and 03:59.920 --> 04:03.920 the connection breaks or something hoses for some reason, it's a shame if you can't get the show 04:03.920 --> 04:10.800 anymore because somewhere, there is a certain amount of Murphy in the network, so some kind of 04:10.800 --> 04:21.040 recheck, and I think perhaps most, I don't know if the iPodders actually will look to complete 04:21.040 --> 04:26.800 all of the bytes, well, what will be nice that they would start the download again, and even 04:26.800 --> 04:31.760 better if they could start it, you know, resume where they left off. That's one fix. Of course, 04:31.760 --> 04:42.240 another one is staggering the RSS files, so you can basically change it. I think does that make sense? 04:42.240 --> 04:47.760 What I'm saying now, yeah, so you release the RSS file with the feed pointing to one location, 04:47.760 --> 04:52.240 and then 15 minutes later you change it to another location, basically load balancing it out. 04:53.200 --> 04:57.280 BitTorrent, of course, seems like something we should be looking at pretty soon, and I think that we're 04:57.280 --> 05:01.840 going to see that, well, there's already been a lot of development going on, and I believe most of the 05:01.840 --> 05:07.840 major iPodders clients support BitTorrent. Actually, do we know if every single one of them supports 05:07.840 --> 05:15.280 BitTorrent yet, is that a given, we should check that, because if they do, then, wow, what are we waiting 05:15.280 --> 05:20.960 for, right? Let's get moving. So I'm going to keep it with the dot Mac for now, but clearly 05:21.040 --> 05:24.880 on the lookout for some really good bandwidth, and the one thing I'd love to hear from, and the 05:24.880 --> 05:29.760 one or two people seem to have a lot of knowledge about networks. If you're really in the networking 05:29.760 --> 05:35.120 business, please shoot me an email or an audio comment or whatever, just so we understand what we need 05:35.120 --> 05:41.040 to get, where we need to be, and even what is it going to cost? Where do I have to be to have 05:42.560 --> 05:47.280 not have a problem with number of subscribers trying to get to my content? And is there someone 05:47.280 --> 05:55.920 in this universe who can benefit from that? Oh, joy. Hello to the Prince of Paul at the 05:55.920 --> 06:02.320 boy. I don't know. Written hour from Portland, Oregon. I was sitting on the train on the way home 06:02.320 --> 06:08.080 from work, listening to the source code, and I was fucking shocked. I couldn't believe what I was 06:08.080 --> 06:13.280 hearing about your I-river, because I have an I-river, the hard drive-based one, the Ford 06:13.280 --> 06:19.840 gang, the I-HP 140, and it's totally different. It does all the things that you said it, you wanted 06:19.840 --> 06:24.960 it to do a record straight to MP3, which is why what I'm doing right now, using the internal 06:24.960 --> 06:30.720 mic, I just can't believe that they did a such a good job of mine and my product and just such 06:30.720 --> 06:36.960 a horrible job on the other. I mean, you got to record straight to MP3, or at least to a wave, 06:36.960 --> 06:41.760 and you got to just boot up just like a drive. That's what mine does. I can't believe they didn't 06:41.840 --> 06:47.760 do that right. That really makes me mad, and I'm sorry, that you got screwed on that. 06:47.760 --> 06:52.720 Anyway, because I think that my product for my rivers really good, so anyway, take that for what 06:52.720 --> 07:00.320 it is. One satisfying question or two is some satisfying customer. So, keep it up, man, 07:00.320 --> 07:07.040 love on the source code. All right, dude. Gotta love the Prince of Paul. Sorry. I haven't written 07:07.120 --> 07:13.120 out of there. Okay, so clearly there's a difference in different models of I rivers, and I got quite 07:13.120 --> 07:19.520 a lot of email and comments about the discussion that we had where I kind of reviewed this, 07:19.520 --> 07:27.840 what is it? The IFP 799? I have to keep looking at that, let me see. Yeah, IFP 799. We have this 07:27.840 --> 07:36.720 crappy I-river media manager. It's not even a media manager. It's a music manager. Imagine that. 07:36.800 --> 07:41.680 Oh, whoever thought we'd want to manage anything else with music on our I-river MP3 players. 07:44.240 --> 07:49.760 And there's all this DRM stuff in it, and the worst part is just that you can't just stick it 07:49.760 --> 07:56.800 into your USB port and have it mount as a drive, which is clearly what Adams and written hours 07:58.240 --> 08:02.880 I-river is doing. I guess he has a maybe more expensive model. I think he has one of the square ones. 08:02.880 --> 08:09.440 This is basically like a little triangle of cheese. And what I mean, if you buy like a cheese stick, 08:11.440 --> 08:21.520 I-I-river doesn't smell like a cheese stick. So it doesn't mount. And I got an email, and of 08:21.520 --> 08:29.040 course all of this, as usual, in the production show notes, from, uh, this is from, uh, it was from Holland. 08:29.120 --> 08:37.440 I remember, uh, Julius, right? Julius says he's got the I-HP 140, which doesn't have any of the 08:37.440 --> 08:44.480 the same problems, but he says that there's some places to look on the net that you can basically 08:44.480 --> 08:51.920 hack the firmware, one of them is MysticRiver.net, and there are ways to get around whatever 08:52.480 --> 09:00.160 he calls the DRM shit in there. Um, clearly, you know, it's like, boy, we really got to figure this out 09:00.160 --> 09:05.920 because otherwise it's a pretty nice machine. In the interface, it can still use work, but sound quality 09:05.920 --> 09:11.600 is amazing. The sound and the options that you can set is quite good. And again, uh, for reporter 09:11.600 --> 09:17.360 purposes, or for, um, on the go podcast purposes to have it, you know, just handy and be able to 09:17.360 --> 09:22.720 record something at good quality, even with the built-in mic for, you know, 30, 40 hours on end, 09:22.720 --> 09:28.880 it's, it's an invaluable tool without a doubt. Over the weekend, I was, uh, checking out, uh, no, 09:28.880 --> 09:33.360 no, over the weekend, this was Tuesday, I think, Monday, or, no, it was Tuesday. Was it, yeah, 09:33.360 --> 09:40.800 Tuesday, I was listening to coverville. Uh, I love, uh, the cover real podcast. Um, and, and I'm, 09:40.800 --> 09:46.000 to this day, not sure about the legality of playing cover songs, but, um, you know, cover realist 09:46.000 --> 09:50.960 playing asscaping BMI fees and has an arrangement. I hope all that's cool. I really do it because 09:50.960 --> 09:57.120 it's so incredible to hear, uh, most of the songs you recognize, uh, but to hear them in different 09:57.120 --> 10:02.560 versions, uh, sometimes original, sometimes covers. It's, uh, it's just, it's a fabulous show and the 10:02.560 --> 10:08.160 frequency of this show. I think it's, uh, three times a week, um, you know, that's, it's great. I love 10:08.160 --> 10:12.160 it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. And even though it's a pretty big download, uh, the extra 10:12.160 --> 10:19.520 quality, it's 128, uh, K is, uh, it's, uh, it's well worth it. Now, of course, I wouldn't want to break 10:19.520 --> 10:27.520 any RIA rules or regulations or want to screw anybody, but, um, I heard this track. It's a cover from 10:27.520 --> 10:35.920 1990, uh, a song done by, uh, was not was. I know, uh, Don and David, I've met them several times, 10:35.920 --> 10:38.960 interviewed him a couple of times. So I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with it. Don 10:39.040 --> 10:45.920 about the record company. Um, and, and, and this song that they're doing is, uh, special to me, 10:45.920 --> 10:51.280 because they mentioned a date in there, which is my birthday. So, uh, automatically, even though 10:51.280 --> 10:55.200 it's in a completely different context in the song, it's the song that is, you know, the lyrics 10:55.200 --> 10:59.920 of stuck with me for all of my life, basically. Um, so I want to play it for you because it is 10:59.920 --> 11:08.000 such a kick-ass version. It is so incredibly good that I think in, you know, we could just, it's 11:08.080 --> 11:14.560 news. And this is fair use. It's news. Cover of gold played an incredibly un-real version. 11:15.280 --> 11:19.040 Well, I, you know, I can't even announce it. I'll just have to have the, you know, the, I played the whole 11:19.040 --> 11:24.720 cover, cover real bit for you, so you can. All right, moving on. Let's, uh, we got a great big show 11:24.720 --> 11:30.400 for you tonight. Yeah, everybody. So let's get down to it. Our first group is, uh, was not was, 11:31.440 --> 11:37.120 a bunch of folks from Detroit, uh, let by, I'm going to turn it up to 11 here, hold on. 11:37.200 --> 11:42.080 Not their real names, not brothers, their David Weiss, and Don Fagensen, they went by the 11:42.080 --> 11:49.280 alias's Don Fagensen, or David and Don was, put your earphones on, had a ton of different 11:49.280 --> 11:55.920 vocalists in the band. It's really good. There cover of Poppa was a Rolling Stone, crank it up from 12:01.250 --> 15:30.160 [ Music ] 15:30.160 --> 15:34.160 It's still in the name of the Lord 15:34.160 --> 15:36.160 We'll be right over here 15:36.160 --> 15:38.160 So it's still in the name of the Lord 15:38.750 --> 18:18.750 [ Music ] 18:25.160 --> 18:35.400 oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh 18:35.400 --> 18:44.600 ask or what, whoo, I was, man, I was awesome. I just love that version. Oh, that is so cool. 18:44.600 --> 18:50.400 And isn't really a shame how shitty MP3 really sounds when it gets down to it. 18:50.400 --> 18:56.360 Because I've heard better versions, just even though it's a grading coding from cover 18:56.360 --> 19:01.480 ville, it does degrade. It really does degrade after a while. And I'm degrading it with my own 19:01.480 --> 19:07.080 recompression of recompression. So one day, you know, one day will have real high quality 19:07.080 --> 19:12.280 audio or, you know, maybe you'll pay a little bit extra for super duper high quality audio. 19:12.280 --> 19:18.360 You'll have to one way the other for your hard disk space. So it's, it's, it's, but 19:18.360 --> 19:24.520 oh, geez, I love that. Love that. More cool tunes on the way. And, um, uh, when I wanted to mention 19:24.520 --> 19:30.680 that, uh, oh, yeah, uh, the Dutch podcasting scene is finally happening. And I was trying to figure out, 19:30.760 --> 19:35.560 why was it taking so long? Because, you know, I'd post on my dad. I mean, people know who I am 19:35.560 --> 19:41.160 and Holland had posted my Dutch weblog several times. You know, hey, come on over and check out 19:41.160 --> 19:47.320 what's happening on the, uh, on the English side on the curried alive.curry.com. And of course, 19:47.320 --> 19:52.040 I realize now that there have been so many tragic accidents that have, or accidents or deaths 19:52.040 --> 19:57.800 really that have taken place in Holland in the past six months, um, you know, you take a 19:57.880 --> 20:06.840 tale of a hook into a count. And Andre Hazes, uh, who is a real folk hero singer, um, Prince 20:06.840 --> 20:14.680 Bernard, uh, they finally buried him, uh, just, uh, just the other day. And he died, uh, um, was it 20:14.680 --> 20:21.240 last weekend, I think? Uh, uh, I mentioned a tale of a hook ride. Of course, uh, pin for town, 20:22.040 --> 20:26.360 three years ago. By now, which is it's, it's been, uh, it's been kind of weird. And I think that now 20:26.440 --> 20:31.800 finally the press is, you know, they've covered all the deaths and the, and the Prince actually did one final 20:32.520 --> 20:37.320 interview a few days before he died. Uh, I haven't actually read the whole thing myself, but apparently 20:37.320 --> 20:43.240 it really took, uh, took the Mickey out of a couple people to put it politely. Uh, so I think that 20:43.240 --> 20:47.880 they, they were done, you know, they had nothing left to cover and, uh, you know, start looking around 20:47.880 --> 20:53.160 and say, hey, what's this commotion gone over there? Oh, that's, that's the podcasters. I'm sorry, 20:53.240 --> 20:58.040 what are these podcasters you speak of? So I think that's, uh, that's what happened. So, uh, 20:58.040 --> 21:05.560 B&N, uh, which is a broadcast company that I worked for for about, uh, was it, uh, over a year? 21:06.360 --> 21:10.920 It was over a year, a little under a year. I did a Friday radio show for them. I love the show, 21:10.920 --> 21:16.360 love doing that show. It was, um, seven to ten did it with the Kid V, uh, you don't 21:16.360 --> 21:23.320 care, I can defect them. And, um, uh, I got admit that we didn't really leave on the best of terms, 21:23.320 --> 21:30.920 because I kind of like just like quit. Which, uh, is pretty much, uh, uh, yeah, it wasn't a nice way 21:30.920 --> 21:35.160 to end the relationship in hindsight, but there was a whole bunch of things going on and, you know, 21:35.160 --> 21:42.040 it's just, it happened that way. Um, and it's not that I went anywhere else, really, per se. I just, 21:42.760 --> 21:50.200 I just didn't want to do it for a number of reasons. Mainly, uh, there was a big to do about, um, 21:50.840 --> 21:59.320 the outrageous salaries that people in the public broadcasting sector were, uh, enjoying for relatively 21:59.320 --> 22:05.880 little work. And I was one of them, basically. And, and this whole report came out, this 110 page. 22:06.680 --> 22:11.560 I think it was a McKinsey or Anderson, Anderson report. And I read it and I was just disgusted. 22:11.560 --> 22:16.760 And I have to quit. I can't do this because this is partially about me. Uh, and I just felt 22:16.760 --> 22:20.360 it was totally wrong because it was public money, you know, and it could have been put to much better 22:20.360 --> 22:26.120 use. And basically it was subsidizing my helicopter lessons at the time. So, so anyway, regardless, 22:26.120 --> 22:31.800 uh, I had a real good time, um, uh, working with them then, I tried to, you know, sell them on the idea 22:31.800 --> 22:37.240 of web logs. And I actually had a lot of infrastructure set up for them, which they, you know, 22:37.240 --> 22:41.800 then they went off and did it themselves, right? Typical story. Um, if you've ever seen blog news 22:41.800 --> 22:46.840 network, you know, that, you know, I basically set that up, you know, willing to sell it to them, 22:46.840 --> 22:51.640 or to, you know, to get them running on it and, uh, they had their own ideas. It's an old story, 22:51.640 --> 22:55.480 but, you know, it's like, they're, I don't know, maybe they're a little corporate, 22:55.480 --> 23:03.560 little government, you know, something typical about that. And, uh, uh, so now they've started podcasting, 23:03.560 --> 23:07.080 which is really nice because I know that, you know, basically everyone there's young and smart 23:07.080 --> 23:13.400 energetic and they do a number of, uh, really high quality radio shows, um, uh, and it did really 23:13.400 --> 23:19.080 different formats, a lot of talk and talk and music formats. And so they've, uh, created podcast feeds, 23:19.080 --> 23:24.120 and that's now become pretty much a big news story in Holland, right on the heels of the Heineken 23:24.120 --> 23:30.120 podcast. Uh, so, uh, and I think this is a, a much bigger story, by the way, because it is essentially 23:30.200 --> 23:34.120 what they're doing is they're pointing to the BBC and saying, hey, look, you know, the BBC are doing 23:34.120 --> 23:41.480 a podcast, well, the BBC did like a podcast in a half. Um, and, uh, and, you know, and so the news is, 23:41.480 --> 23:47.320 look, this is a great way to spend, um, the public's money, we're basically, uh, letting you enjoy 23:47.320 --> 23:53.080 our programming, um, any, any time you want, if, uh, you know, if you don't choose to listen to it on the radio. 23:53.160 --> 24:00.520 So, uh, that's, that's cool. And, uh, hopefully they're going to get listed in the iPodor.org 24:00.520 --> 24:03.800 directory in the radio, no, they, they sent me an email and said, you know, can you put it 24:03.800 --> 24:08.360 in the directory? So, well, you need to go into radio, I guess, or, I mean, where would you want to be? 24:08.360 --> 24:12.840 And, uh, they just have to use the suggest to link feature. That's, uh, the beauty of the, uh, the 24:12.840 --> 24:17.400 openness of the directory. But I'm sure that'll work out and they should show up. And, uh, 24:17.560 --> 24:25.400 welcome to have them here in our podcast space. Hi, this is Craig Patchett from godcast.org 24:25.400 --> 24:33.480 with the Living Word for Wednesday, December 15th, 2004. Our verses for today are Matthew 6, 24:33.480 --> 24:42.280 19 through 21, and the translation is the NASP. This is Jesus, speaking as part of his sermon on the 24:42.280 --> 24:51.160 Mount. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where Moth and Rust destroy and where thieves 24:51.160 --> 24:58.280 break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither Moth nor Rust 24:58.280 --> 25:06.680 destroys and where thieves do not break in or steal. For where your treasure is, dare your heart will be 25:06.680 --> 25:18.920 also Matthew 6, 19 through 21. Okay, and that's beautiful. So, um, I subscribe to the, uh, to godcast.org 25:18.920 --> 25:23.240 to the Living Word because this is what comes through. And, um, and this is actually, of course, 25:23.240 --> 25:29.240 you know, I think the heaven here is a metaphor, right? This is, uh, it's about what's in your head, 25:29.240 --> 25:35.160 basically heaven head. So, uh, basically this is not, this is, I think what this is saying here is, 25:36.120 --> 25:41.240 um, you know, all the worldly possessions really don't mean anything. It's, uh, it's the possessions 25:41.240 --> 25:48.680 that you collect along the journey of life and that you, uh, carry with you and that you cherish. 25:48.680 --> 25:56.680 And I can tell you, um, from someone who was amassed an amazing amount of stuff. I mean, really 25:56.680 --> 26:01.800 stuff, and I've seen it because I've given half of it away in the past, in the past four weeks, 26:01.880 --> 26:08.760 just given away our stuff because it's sickening. Um, it really, it's, uh, it's nothing compared 26:08.760 --> 26:13.000 to the experiences that you keep up in your head, and in your heart, which in this case, I think is, 26:13.720 --> 26:19.960 in this verse of Matthew is, uh, uh, what's being talked about, uh, what's being referred to as heaven. 26:21.160 --> 26:25.960 And what thieves do not break in or steal? That's cool. Yeah, because thieves, where are your treasure 26:26.040 --> 26:33.480 or your heart? There, your heart will be also. Matthew 6, 19 through 21. Don't you feel refreshed? 26:33.480 --> 26:38.440 Now, now that we've been posting to the living word, comments and verse requests are always welcome 26:38.440 --> 26:44.440 and we'd back at godcast.org. This is Craig Patchett. Hoping that God blesses your day today. 26:44.440 --> 26:52.120 I'll see you tomorrow. God bless your day as well, brother. Excellent. Godcast.org. 26:52.120 --> 26:56.920 Hey, got an audio comment from Lee Wilkins, an update on Alfian Benson. 26:56.920 --> 27:01.480 Hey, Adam, it's Lee Wilkins. I was just listening to you going on about, um, and half the 27:01.480 --> 27:07.800 listening to Robert talking about the paper and the phase involved. Well, as you know, that's right. 27:07.800 --> 27:12.840 We were talking about that yesterday, um, uh, uh, what PayPal charges, because we did, uh, 27:12.840 --> 27:18.840 we raised the money for Alfian Benson, um, uh, VIA, uh, a PayPal donation link. 27:18.840 --> 27:25.880 It managed to raise the funds to get Alfian Benson back. You! Hey, boy. Now, they're going to be 27:25.880 --> 27:29.320 back Friday morning instead of Thursday morning because the quarantine people can't pick them up, 27:29.320 --> 27:33.160 but at least they're coming back. That's the main thing. But going back to the question anyway, 27:33.160 --> 27:40.440 uh, or a solution. Whatever, um, is that PayPal, we transferred the money to a guy in Houston, 27:40.440 --> 27:45.160 who was going to pay us cash over the count. Wait a minute. That sounded really dodgy. 27:45.240 --> 27:48.360 Wait a minute, you paid it to a guy in Houston who was going to pay it cash and bring it in a 27:48.360 --> 27:55.720 brown paper bag with the hellest. What's going on here, Lee? Uh, in the US, um, and we transferred 27:55.720 --> 28:04.840 to 1,200 and something dollars, okay? But what I'm trying to get to PayPal and PayPal took their 28:04.840 --> 28:15.000 fee. They took a fee of $43 dollars, um, for, for the 1,200 something. We said them, which I don't 28:15.000 --> 28:21.720 think is, I personally don't think it's too bad considering the urgency in the matter. But I can 28:21.720 --> 28:26.920 understand where Robert's coming from, where you're coming from, but you know, PayPal do take a large 28:26.920 --> 28:34.680 chunk. Right. But here's, here's the question. How much did PayPal take? Um, when we sent it 28:34.840 --> 28:40.600 to you, is that also a piece that they, so PayPal was basically grabbing it twice in this case. 28:40.600 --> 28:45.640 But, okay. I mean, yeah, I kind of agree with your point. And so it's, uh, what does that? It's like, 28:46.200 --> 28:49.000 three and a half percent or something. It's at the service trip, about three percent. 28:49.800 --> 28:56.680 You know, the other day, PayPal, our business and these banks. Um, I'm so I got in 28:57.000 --> 29:02.360 the introduction there. We, we don't call that a businessly. Hold on. We just, we call that a 29:02.360 --> 29:09.720 business business. And these banks, um, online payment companies have got to make this money 29:09.720 --> 29:15.640 somewhere. So one of screw over us consumers. Yeah. And that's it. As I said, Alfie invented 29:15.640 --> 29:22.760 a back tomorrow Friday, the 17th of December. Um, touchdown and morning, we're going to visit 29:22.840 --> 29:28.040 a meeting afternoon. I'll upload a podcast and some pictures and all that over the weekend as 29:28.040 --> 29:33.720 well. So have fun. Take care, Adam. Bye bye. Yeah, excellently. Okay. Well, looking forward to pictures 29:33.720 --> 29:38.920 and, uh, and sounds of Alfie and Benson, uh, happily barking away. Have anyone else noticed by 29:38.920 --> 29:44.360 the way, uh, that if you've gotten into podcasting, and I mean, really just listen to podcasts, 29:45.640 --> 29:50.600 that you may not necessarily be watching as much TV as you use to, as you use to, and I'm really 29:50.680 --> 29:55.720 finding this. And it actually may be not even that I'm, um, that I'm watching less, but I find that 29:55.720 --> 30:01.880 less interesting. This is so little television that is compelling to me. I mean, news is no longer 30:01.880 --> 30:08.360 compelling because I get my news on the internet. Um, some, well, BBC news, I, I like to watch because 30:08.360 --> 30:12.680 it has some regional stuff that I'm still not tuned into, and I'm trying to figure out who's 30:12.680 --> 30:18.280 what and who's doing what, uh, but still I, I think I get most of my news, uh, online. And then 30:18.280 --> 30:22.760 reality shows, at this point, they're not really reality shows anymore. They're, you know, 30:22.760 --> 30:30.280 very preconceived type of reality shows. Um, I don't know. I just, uh, podcasts seem so much more 30:30.280 --> 30:34.920 exciting to me. I actually look forward to, I guess that is kind of like weblogs used to be when we 30:34.920 --> 30:39.400 had weblogs.com just in the beginning, uh, you sit there and you hit refresh, you know, I was like, 30:39.400 --> 30:43.000 oh, you know, what's it? When, oh, look, this guy just posted, oh, she just posted, you know, 30:43.000 --> 30:47.720 here's that weblog that I've been following. And the same thing now with audio.weblogs.com, 30:47.880 --> 30:54.200 it's great. And if, if you don't know how that works, uh, definitely go to iPod.org and there's a link 30:54.200 --> 30:58.120 on the, uh, the couple of links to get help on that. Because you want, if you have a new podcast, 30:58.120 --> 31:02.440 you want to be pinging that server as what we call it, which means you basically say, hello, 31:02.440 --> 31:07.320 I have a podcast that's updated here. I am, and, uh, you'll show up on the top of that list and 31:07.320 --> 31:13.080 believe me, a lot of people look at that list. And also, that information is available in XML format. 31:13.080 --> 31:19.240 So that's being pulled into, um, uh, into new applications so that when people open up their iPod or, 31:19.240 --> 31:24.840 uh, and eventually, uh, this will all be on your MP3 player. I hope you'll see on your MP3 player that, 31:24.840 --> 31:30.440 uh, that something new is, uh, is available. Um, and you can make decisions about that, uh, on the go. 31:31.240 --> 31:38.120 So, uh, uh, I think radio's getting back for that, uh, that video killed the radio star thing. 31:38.920 --> 31:44.040 Oh, yeah, it's a show called audio. This episode won a body with a camera on the last one. 31:44.040 --> 31:48.040 Let me answer your monies. Let me begin and just start proposing to you this idea that I've got of an MP3 31:48.040 --> 31:52.920 key ask. So if you're like me, you've spent countless hours and airports, hotels and on highways, 31:52.920 --> 31:57.160 with nothing good to listen to. So, uh, everybody who's like that raise your hand. 31:58.920 --> 32:03.800 Okay. You know, you, you, you gas up at a truck stop at travel America or a loves. And what do you 32:03.800 --> 32:11.320 find inside, but, uh, I use condom. It'll be more on audio cassette, which I would never buy, 32:11.320 --> 32:16.840 or you're in an airport terminal. And what do you find for sale there? But uh, you too, it's all 32:16.840 --> 32:22.600 you too with the airport. $30 audio books. And you can't listen to the narrator ahead of time. So, 32:22.600 --> 32:25.800 you know, if you don't like the way the voice sounds, you're screwed. You know, I'm sure a few 32:25.800 --> 32:30.280 years will all be downloading audio content onto our cell phones, Dave Winner and Adam Curry, 32:30.280 --> 32:34.840 or forming a company as we speak on this premise of micro stations. I think it's a terrific idea 32:34.840 --> 32:39.720 and I'd love to hear more details. But until we have universal adoption of their service, which 32:39.720 --> 32:43.880 sure is going to take at least a couple of years, there's a market for another idea, I think, 32:43.880 --> 32:48.760 and it's the end of it. Wait a minute, let me just stop there because I had you, I was completely 32:48.760 --> 32:55.560 there for a second. I totally love the idea of at an airport where there's like a Wi-Fi and, um, 32:55.560 --> 33:02.200 and in your iPod, your MP3 player, your iRiver, your creative labs. Go, it's bling, you know, 33:02.200 --> 33:07.320 and then maybe there's a transaction, you pay for something, but, you know, it comes, it's comes 33:07.320 --> 33:12.840 boiling in and along with anything else you happen to be subscribed to, it's like a filling station. 33:12.840 --> 33:20.280 I can, yeah, why not have every gas station via an iPod filling station? MP3 Kiosk. So, with 33:20.280 --> 33:26.920 the wireless broadband connection and a touch screen, the public can easily pull audio content onto 33:26.920 --> 33:32.920 a portable device, right? Or burn it right there onto a CD-ROM. The back end is just an iPod or a 33:32.920 --> 33:38.520 Doppler derivative and the gooey's got an autopsy. I'm going to go to gooey with me, please. 33:38.520 --> 33:44.600 Oh, that anybody, even your grandmother understands it. No, I bullshit. So, you can sort the content 33:44.600 --> 33:50.120 by genre and popularity and, you know, if you wanted to try, listen to it. Okay, totally. I love it. 33:50.120 --> 33:55.960 I love the idea. It's a great idea. I mean, just the fact that we can have point to point sales, you know, 33:55.960 --> 34:02.760 of, you walk in and, and you can fill up really cool. And that, of course, is only a step, 34:02.760 --> 34:09.320 you know, from, from when, entire cities are blanketed and Wi-Fi. So, a lot of interesting stuff 34:09.320 --> 34:21.000 coming up in the future people. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to me, I'll come. 34:22.040 --> 34:27.080 Merry Christmas. I just wanted to let you know, the scalp.net will be featuring nothing, 34:27.080 --> 34:31.880 but Christmas music for the rest of December. From the obscure? 34:40.200 --> 34:41.320 To the classics? 34:49.240 --> 34:51.240 To some stuff you've never heard before. 35:02.120 --> 35:05.160 So, tune in to the scalp.net Christmas kit. 35:05.800 --> 35:11.800 All right, talking about being a total TV junkie, reminded me that it was time to pull some 35:11.800 --> 35:19.480 loads of jones out of iTunes. Roll it out for you. These are a couple of brothers, cats, who, you know, 35:19.480 --> 35:21.560 home-seedy up in the rannick on their mat. 35:23.750 --> 35:58.750 [ Music ] 36:05.080 --> 36:09.880 I just can't live that way. I have to do mojones just as, you know, we got to kick it off again. 36:09.880 --> 36:13.160 TV junkie, mojones on your daily summer scroll. 36:13.160 --> 36:18.360 I'm sorry for the radio drop. We're not happening again. 36:23.750 --> 39:48.750 [ Music ] 39:55.880 --> 39:57.160 T-D-A-V. 39:57.160 --> 40:01.080 Junkey, and I'll do it for the Thursday edition of your daily source code. 40:01.080 --> 40:10.080 And got to get prepared because we got some road shows coming up pretty soon. 40:10.080 --> 40:20.080 On Monday, I fly to the Netherlands and I have chosen my hotel based upon weblog readers 40:20.080 --> 40:25.080 Curry.com. They say this is the place that has the best Wi-Fi. 40:26.080 --> 40:29.080 That in a 24-7 bar. 40:29.080 --> 40:31.080 I'm not really a drinker, as you know. 40:31.080 --> 40:34.080 At least there'll be life, you know, people will be doing stuff. 40:34.080 --> 40:37.080 And I have bandwidth. 40:37.080 --> 40:42.080 You know, it's me, all by myself, with a television and bandwidth. 40:42.080 --> 40:46.080 Wireless, I think that I'll be just fine. 40:46.080 --> 40:51.080 So I have all kinds of adventures on the horizon. 40:51.080 --> 40:56.080 Of course, we'll bring you the Friday edition of the show. 40:56.080 --> 40:59.080 We've got some cool stuff to talk about tomorrow. 40:59.080 --> 41:02.080 Meet you here on the source code. 41:02.080 --> 41:10.080 Oh yeah, if you want to send me an audio comment, add a link for read.com 41:10.080 --> 41:15.080 or leave a comment and I've got Curry.com or DannySource.com. 41:15.080 --> 41:19.080 You can just attach it to the email if it's under 5 megs of 41:20.080 --> 41:22.080 suck it down when it gets to the start. 41:23.080 --> 41:25.080 Take care, everyone. 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