WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 It's Adam Curry. 00:02.000 --> 00:05.000 Hey, good morning, it's Monday. 00:05.000 --> 00:07.000 And, well, come on. 00:07.000 --> 00:19.000 Everybody, today's source code, the last one coming to you from South Beach in Florida. 00:19.000 --> 00:21.000 Once again, you're in my bed. 00:21.000 --> 00:24.000 And it's also not really Monday, but well it is Monday morning. 00:24.000 --> 00:26.000 It's a quarter to one, AM. 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 So, this one's done before I go ahead. 00:29.000 --> 00:34.440 Here's basically the choice I saw that I had I could get up really early tomorrow morning 00:35.480 --> 00:43.000 Probably around 6.37 o'clock and do the source code and be on track with you as a Monday morning show 00:43.880 --> 00:49.400 Or I could just do this now and sleep in a little bit, you know, maybe chill until 8.8.30 00:49.400 --> 00:55.160 I don't have the luxury that I usually have when I'm in the in the cottage in the UK 00:56.040 --> 01:00.600 Where I'm five hours ahead of basically east coast time 01:02.040 --> 01:04.040 Or should I say east coast time 01:09.320 --> 01:16.760 And of course now for once folks over in Europe will have a source code nice and early because what time is it now? 01:16.760 --> 01:19.720 It's but it was so it's a quarter to six 01:20.920 --> 01:22.920 UK time 01:22.920 --> 01:29.080 I was taking my shower. It was a long long day today and I was really contemplating 01:29.080 --> 01:31.560 I really want to do a source code. There's a couple of things. Boops. 01:31.560 --> 01:33.960 Two couple of things I wanted to talk to you about. You know what? I figured 01:34.600 --> 01:41.000 What better way than to spend the last evening that I have with all of my daily source code friends 01:41.000 --> 01:45.560 My last evening not the last evening I have ever with the last evening here in in Florida 01:45.560 --> 01:49.160 Which has been beautiful, man. I cannot believe the weather that we've been having 01:49.720 --> 01:52.520 Or I guess it's normal for for Florida, but 01:53.320 --> 01:56.920 Honky boy like me from Gilford to totally beautiful 01:58.200 --> 02:03.560 So I also wanted to share the last bit of weed that I had here 02:04.360 --> 02:09.000 We're not really gonna share it, but I'm gonna roll one up and smoke it 02:11.800 --> 02:16.680 Like you don't know I do that right? Anyway, so let me tell you about about my day 02:17.640 --> 02:22.120 And then I want to talk about a couple things and they will shut a turn and I'm gonna go to bed 02:22.680 --> 02:26.760 Because you know travel day tomorrow and I probably won't 02:27.480 --> 02:33.960 Have another well I arrive to see tomorrow so I'd leave Monday evening arrive Tuesday morning 02:34.760 --> 02:37.240 And Gilford up of course. I'll be totally wrecked because 02:38.520 --> 02:42.360 I'm not counting on any upgrade like I had on the way over boy. That was beautiful 02:44.040 --> 02:49.640 Now you'll recall that I contemplated upgrading myself one class of service from 02:49.960 --> 02:55.720 Economy basically to to club which is a business class on British Airways 02:57.320 --> 02:59.320 But then saw the price tag 02:59.720 --> 03:01.480 One way up great is like 03:01.480 --> 03:09.320 1800 pounds $3,000 and at that point I said screw that actually I heard was the podcast brothers talking about that 03:10.040 --> 03:17.160 That I'm now I have officially proven my geek status that I decided to fly coach so I could buy a new Mac 03:18.120 --> 03:21.080 I felt that money would be better spent. That's totally agree 03:22.360 --> 03:24.920 So what I thought maybe I do tomorrow is I go to 03:25.480 --> 03:27.720 It's an apple store not too far away from here 03:28.760 --> 03:33.480 And you know the Steve could jobs is doing the apple keynote speech tomorrow from San Francisco 03:33.480 --> 03:36.760 So let's say that's probably around noon east coast time and 03:37.720 --> 03:44.600 From what I understand I haven't really seen a verification on the web that one of the things that I always look forward to was 03:45.560 --> 03:49.800 A Steve Joe Steve jobs keynote that I could watch on the web and 03:50.680 --> 03:53.560 They started doing this what I guess 03:54.200 --> 03:57.000 Must have been around 99 maybe or 03:58.280 --> 04:02.120 2000 when when you know they really started doing this regularly on 04:03.320 --> 04:06.120 Whenever there was a keynote and shit man 04:06.760 --> 04:12.280 Sometimes we'd have parties you know we'd have friends come over and we put up on the big grandmas of you screen and 04:13.240 --> 04:19.240 You know popcorn beer hanging out looking at the new gadgets 04:19.960 --> 04:27.640 Apparently that's not gonna happen this time around and you can only watch it if you're there live or if you're in an apple store 04:28.280 --> 04:30.280 Which I'm sure is a 04:30.840 --> 04:35.480 Very understandable marketing employee to get you to buy something on spot 04:36.200 --> 04:38.200 Maybe I'm wrong 04:38.200 --> 04:40.200 But I think it's a shame I 04:40.280 --> 04:45.800 Really love watching and maybe there'll be a repeat maybe it's just not the maybe you can't watch it live or 04:46.120 --> 04:47.480 God who knows 04:47.480 --> 04:49.480 It's a shame it's a shame so anyway 04:50.120 --> 04:55.000 I'm thinking of maybe going to an apple store to check that out and then maybe actually buy a computer 04:55.320 --> 04:58.040 I also have to figure out something for Christina because she 04:59.000 --> 05:03.480 blew up the laptop that I gave or we'll didn't really blow it up I guess it was not totally hurt fall 05:03.480 --> 05:07.720 There was a little fragile there was a 802 11 be obey for basically a Wi-Fi card 05:08.680 --> 05:10.680 that 05:10.680 --> 05:14.040 Was put into the PCM CIA slot and 05:15.000 --> 05:20.920 And yeah, that kind of yeah, I'm not quite sure what happened, but she had to pull it out and put it in and that was 05:21.400 --> 05:25.960 Partially because she didn't pull it out then it would still can you know continuously talk to 05:26.520 --> 05:28.520 the airport base station 05:28.520 --> 05:32.520 Which means the motor would stay dialed in which means my mother-in-law couldn't call okay? 05:32.920 --> 05:35.720 So she had to pull it out whenever she was done with a computer and 05:35.960 --> 05:40.680 And she shorted out the PCM CIA slot and it you know, well that 05:41.400 --> 05:45.400 That means you got to send it somewhere and that's uh, I don't know if it's going to be worth it for that machine 05:45.400 --> 05:50.280 But of course she wants to have a windows machine and she she's really cute about it 05:50.280 --> 05:55.800 She's you know dad I'm really sorry, but you know I do like the coolest MSN I want the new MSN features 05:55.800 --> 05:57.800 I just can't get it on the Mac 05:57.800 --> 06:02.360 Something to be said for that, I mean that's that's the power of some positioning in a brand and 06:02.680 --> 06:13.640 Putting something on the desktop that hey, I'm basically going to buy windows and a windows machine because of the cool features of MSN that you got on windows and and not on a Mac so 06:15.160 --> 06:17.160 And you can get a 06:17.480 --> 06:21.960 A laptop these days for five six hundred dollars and the way the pound is I mean the pound is 06:22.520 --> 06:29.480 What is it like a buck 90 or something so that's it's like candy land over here shopping with the euros and pounds 06:29.720 --> 06:31.720 Hey, you know what before we go any further 06:32.360 --> 06:34.360 I've got to play you this cadence 06:34.760 --> 06:37.880 I'm not prepared by the way. I don't have my outline or up 06:38.440 --> 06:43.240 I don't have the show notes rolling none of that so it's a little bit off the cuff 06:44.920 --> 06:46.920 Let me see if I can find the email 06:46.920 --> 06:54.600 It was I do want to give the right credit home on my fire fox has been acting a little with my whole Mac has been acting a little weird actually 06:54.920 --> 06:56.280 I have a feeling that 06:56.280 --> 07:01.480 You know how sometimes you're fine. They're just goes a bit crazy and stuff seems to slow down and 07:02.760 --> 07:05.400 I think it's time for new install of the 07:06.040 --> 07:08.040 system software 07:08.040 --> 07:10.040 Hold on let me see if I can 07:10.360 --> 07:14.120 Find this because I want to give proper credit bear with me for a second 07:16.040 --> 07:18.040 This drum cadence 07:18.680 --> 07:20.680 Was sent to me by 07:20.680 --> 07:24.200 Come on, I'm basically doing my email now on crap 07:24.760 --> 07:30.520 For some reason my Mac mail program won't work with this network and it has nothing to do with 07:31.480 --> 07:34.920 The ports it has to do with my Mac. I'm sure there's something wrong there 07:36.680 --> 07:38.680 Hold on a second 07:38.680 --> 07:40.200 We're gonna search this now 07:40.200 --> 07:42.200 So I'm using the the web browser 07:43.400 --> 07:45.400 Mac email 07:45.640 --> 07:50.760 Which is not at all handy when you're used to just zapping through some of it. Okay, this is something to me by Elvin 07:51.320 --> 07:53.320 Was Elvin's last name 07:54.120 --> 07:59.560 Okay, Elvin says per world of the podcast mainstream drum bands songs. Okay. You got this from the 08:00.120 --> 08:02.840 What is this a band that you split Disneyland 08:03.480 --> 08:08.040 Herdum play it every day when I worked inside the park. Oh cool. I wonder what the Elvin was if he was 08:08.760 --> 08:13.080 To say what he was in the park were you in a suit or you were you in the band 08:13.960 --> 08:18.760 Anyway, I just couldn't resist. I said myself this is exactly the type of two 08:18.760 --> 08:20.760 I want to hear from a 08:21.800 --> 08:23.800 It's the Jackson's theme everybody 08:26.280 --> 08:28.280 Feel free to sing along 08:28.750 --> 09:51.250 [ Music ] 09:52.360 --> 09:55.000 Yeah, awesome, Elvin. Thank you very much 09:55.560 --> 09:59.240 Totally put me in the right mood for for the podcast theme from the jetsons 09:59.640 --> 10:03.480 Drum cadence. Well more than just the drum cadence. I guess here on the daily source code 10:04.280 --> 10:06.280 Which of course is for Monday? 10:06.280 --> 10:08.280 January 10th 10:08.280 --> 10:11.000 2005 moving right along in the brand new year 10:11.640 --> 10:16.520 Let's see today started off very early with breakfast meeting 10:17.800 --> 10:21.720 You know we've been doing meetings all this past week and in the weeks to come 10:21.960 --> 10:25.800 I'm gonna start talking about you know some of the things we've learned. I've learned certainly 10:26.600 --> 10:28.600 I'll tell you one thing. We're only scratching 10:29.160 --> 10:34.040 You know just the tip of this stuff just the very tip of the iceberg of what's gonna be possible 10:34.520 --> 10:40.200 We're going and you know with with just amazing amounts of talent that's out there 10:40.920 --> 10:45.720 That is finally getting a voice. It's uh that's gonna be great 10:48.200 --> 10:50.200 Okay, so at 11 o'clock 10:50.840 --> 10:52.840 as was agreed to 10:53.320 --> 10:55.960 CBS evening news 10:56.840 --> 11:02.680 showed up here at the hotel and to interview me about well you guessed it about podcasting 11:03.480 --> 11:07.480 I've been working with the producer on this lovely lady from New York 11:07.480 --> 11:08.520 Her name is Linda 11:08.520 --> 11:15.720 I've been working on well basically coordinating it for the past couple of weeks and you know this whole all of this work by the way is for 11:15.720 --> 11:20.680 for two minutes which is a lot but for two minutes in the CBS evening news with Dan Rather 11:21.320 --> 11:24.600 and it was Linda and the reporter 11:27.720 --> 11:35.080 Totally spacing of course on the reporter a Sharon Sharon Alfonci. That's Sharon with a Y by the way S. H. A. R. Y. N 11:36.120 --> 11:38.120 Who is a completely the up-and-coming 11:39.800 --> 11:41.800 Personality on 11:41.800 --> 11:43.800 the evening news 11:43.800 --> 11:45.160 as 11:45.160 --> 11:47.560 Some of the CBS staffers like to say 11:48.360 --> 11:52.760 She's the up-and-coming girl that the grown-ups really like the grown-ups being the management 11:53.320 --> 11:55.320 Hold on a second 11:55.320 --> 12:00.360 Is this uh I feel a little bit is it is it soft a little bit tonight the I mean the recording? 12:02.280 --> 12:04.280 Yes, not it seems pretty much the same 12:06.520 --> 12:10.440 Well, what I like well, that's okay, and so so they're gonna interview me about podcasting 12:10.440 --> 12:14.040 What was great is that everyone had done their homework that listened to podcasts 12:14.840 --> 12:19.480 Definitely knew it had looked up and read up on you know the basics 12:20.680 --> 12:24.440 And of course, you know the bear in mind that if you're creating two minutes, you know 12:24.920 --> 12:28.760 There's there's just not a hell of a lot you're gonna get in there and of course it's all sound bites and 12:29.160 --> 12:34.760 I've learned how to talk and sound bites and this obviously goes against everything that podcasting is because 12:35.240 --> 12:37.240 well basically 12:37.240 --> 12:42.600 In commercial television well in all television you have a time restriction you only have 24 hours in a day 12:43.240 --> 12:50.360 And we've talked about this every minute is worth something every second every nanosecond is worth something so it's all you know it gets compressed and it gets 12:52.440 --> 12:59.720 It gets harder and harder and harder to communicate something and so the only thing I can do if I want to communicate something is kind of work along 13:00.280 --> 13:04.280 With the whole system and talk and sound bites which I did I'm good at that 13:04.840 --> 13:08.520 I don't want to practice oh, but I remember one point MTV they had 13:08.920 --> 13:13.560 They would bring in these new executives every oh, I don't seem like every three months for a while there 13:13.560 --> 13:19.480 I'm the very early 90s and at one point there was this big idea it was light switch and we're gonna switch everything 13:19.480 --> 13:23.240 It's all gonna be different on Monday and I basically meant that we were sitting in 13:24.120 --> 13:28.360 In front of blue screen and blue screen is what the weather the weather people use 13:28.920 --> 13:33.400 The weathermen are weather with a girl with a woman so they can project a map behind you 13:34.280 --> 13:38.920 Except MTV wasn't projecting blue screen some of the older source code listeners will remember that they you know 13:38.920 --> 13:42.120 We weren't projecting weather maps obviously on the blue screen, but they had like a diner set 13:43.160 --> 13:44.920 or some you know 13:44.920 --> 13:50.120 Situation outside and then basically you'd be in the corner of the screen somewhere on a little television 13:50.680 --> 13:56.040 Playing in a you know like at a new stand doing your segment which wasn't very nice because 13:56.840 --> 14:02.280 Well, you know it's a small television a small screen you start off with but then to be a small screen on a small screen was like 14:03.480 --> 14:09.480 Thank you, but that wasn't even the worst part the worst part was that they brought in some radio consultants and 14:10.120 --> 14:13.880 And they said well, you know, we've got to make sure that this is this is run like radio 14:13.880 --> 14:18.360 We have some proven concepts and one of them is you shouldn't be talking longer than seven seconds per break 14:19.400 --> 14:24.600 And they had like a 12 second break in a seven second break so literally you would have to talk about the next video 14:24.600 --> 14:29.320 Or or tease what was coming up and then be someone next the camera counting down 12 seconds 14:29.320 --> 14:31.320 You know it's almost impossible 14:31.400 --> 14:34.200 But that is kind of what a lot of commercial television is 14:35.240 --> 14:37.800 Not just commercial television any television any 14:38.680 --> 14:40.680 traditional 14:40.680 --> 14:42.680 Linear broadcast 14:42.680 --> 14:46.760 So that the radio or television has to deal with the time issue 14:48.600 --> 14:51.000 So it was great that everyone was everyone was 14:51.880 --> 14:53.880 prepared and 14:54.840 --> 14:56.840 Um 14:56.840 --> 14:58.840 Sharon actually wanted to do 14:58.840 --> 15:02.840 Well, she didn't really want to do a podcast, but she was she didn't want to see the whole process 15:02.840 --> 15:08.120 So we did that a record that I totally got to plug the listivious bitties and I'm I think you know 15:08.120 --> 15:11.640 If I if I did all the soundbites right and talked right and and of course 15:11.640 --> 15:14.520 I was really working with these people with with Linden and Sharon 15:14.920 --> 15:18.360 I think we're gonna get the a little piece of the bitties played on CBS even news 15:18.360 --> 15:23.160 I got to say that's very cool that's gonna that's gonna that's gonna take on me if we pull that one off 15:24.120 --> 15:27.960 And I think that by you know, it was in the in the whole song. I want to be famous 15:27.960 --> 15:31.080 It it totally makes sense for the piece that that they're gonna make 15:31.560 --> 15:34.360 They'd also heard my uh sound seeing tour 15:35.080 --> 15:38.840 So they wanted me you know that well they want to get video of that which of course is 15:39.480 --> 15:44.760 Impossible because it already happened so I kind of did the same thing you know walked on the street 15:44.760 --> 15:46.920 I did walk down with more less you know the same 15:47.720 --> 15:53.080 The same outfit the same gear you know so you can kind of see how I did that and I did say more or less the same 15:53.320 --> 15:55.320 Things and 15:55.320 --> 16:00.920 If anything it'll probably be in there for like three seconds and they'll be a voice over saying curry sometimes 16:01.320 --> 16:03.320 Walks down the street while looking like any 16:03.880 --> 16:06.280 Talk or do himself and people love it 16:06.680 --> 16:08.680 um 16:10.440 --> 16:14.440 So you know that's that's just to make it all kind of fit together 16:15.640 --> 16:21.000 And so this took a long time they showed up at eleven which was the time that we agreed upon and you know 16:21.160 --> 16:27.400 You're resetting stuff you're sitting down from the computer then when you're the over-the-shoulders to get the the close-ups of the computer 16:28.120 --> 16:29.720 um 16:29.720 --> 16:31.720 You know then 16:31.720 --> 16:38.680 And it's nice because it wasn't really an interview. It was really just a conversation that we had which I totally love it when we when when you do that and not you know 16:39.240 --> 16:40.920 Not have to 16:40.920 --> 16:46.200 You know look at someone and answer their questions as they read off of piece of paper or whatever on you know 16:46.200 --> 16:49.800 off to one side of the camera so it was like a real conversation and 16:49.880 --> 16:51.880 and 16:52.040 --> 16:56.280 Sharon is a really nice. She's uh was she's 32 years old 16:56.920 --> 17:04.120 Think um just totally nice and very very smart and I might mention very cute 17:04.840 --> 17:06.840 Or certainly 17:07.160 --> 17:09.160 Yeah, and there she was cute very cute 17:10.920 --> 17:15.640 Can you tell that it's working this last one that I promised myself? I'm starting to slow down a little bit here 17:16.600 --> 17:23.400 So that lasted until about oh say it's what time we've probably done around one 30 because you know we walked over to ocean drive 17:24.440 --> 17:28.440 From the hotel to actually do that bit in the camera of course had to get set up blah blah blah 17:29.720 --> 17:35.160 And then she had to do a couple of stand-ups which I was actually quite funny because they had a crew a local crew 17:35.160 --> 17:42.040 They got you from the CBS affiliate or production facility whatever and so Linda the producer of course is making sure that the shot is you know 17:42.040 --> 17:48.440 What she wants and that the what Sharon is saying is what what they need and she was basically doing a stand-up saying 17:49.080 --> 17:50.600 Well, you know you can be 17:50.600 --> 17:56.840 If you like broadcasts and you can be a podcaster and you can do it anywhere even walking down the street if you don't mind going through with 17:57.160 --> 17:58.680 Fewer through steps 17:58.680 --> 18:00.040 Through a few steps 18:00.040 --> 18:03.640 I think that means you know or you have to learn how to do it or whatever 18:03.640 --> 18:10.600 Hopefully it's not gonna come off as it's difficult because I tried to make it certainly look as easy as possible as to how to create a podcast and 18:10.680 --> 18:15.480 Certainly how to receive one because that you know, don't have to be more than the click of a mouse on a web page or 18:16.200 --> 18:20.920 If you have an iPod or subscribing to a feed so that it puts it on your MP3 player 18:21.560 --> 18:29.240 But they didn't have someone to hold the elephant diaphragm as I call it which I guess Sharon had never heard because she left a budget or it wasn't really a joke 18:29.240 --> 18:32.760 It's the basically it's that big round reflecting thing that you see 18:33.640 --> 18:36.200 film sets photo shoots television 18:37.160 --> 18:43.400 Stand-ups whatever and it's golden one side white on the other side typically and you can basically use it to bounce 18:43.560 --> 18:49.960 The sun reflect off off of this this sheet and it does kind of look like a big-ass diaphragm and it's you know 18:49.960 --> 18:51.960 It's kind of it's made of cloth and it has a 18:53.080 --> 19:00.840 The edges flexible so you can kind of collapse it down and fold it up over two times and it fits into a nice little bag and then you take it out of that bag and 19:01.240 --> 19:05.560 It expands to this big elephant diaphragm look and thing. It's a reflector 19:06.680 --> 19:12.360 So I was reflecting the light onto Sharon's face to make her and you know look pretty because they did basically were a hand short 19:12.360 --> 19:16.600 And that was it was kind of fun. I hadn't done the diaphragm in a long time 19:17.560 --> 19:19.560 Boeing and 19:19.560 --> 19:24.040 After that while the crew was packing up that we sat down had a had a coke 19:24.600 --> 19:27.080 I'm sorry the girls had died cooks and 19:28.360 --> 19:34.280 And then Linda who's been it at CBS as she says for I guess Zillian years 19:34.440 --> 19:38.680 Yeah, I know that sounded like magic. I'll get to that in a second and 19:39.800 --> 19:44.280 You know, of course there's some well actually how do we come about this? 19:45.640 --> 19:50.520 I think during the interview at one point or to the conversation it was we were talking about 19:52.040 --> 19:56.600 podcasting how it relates to web logs and and said well, you know web logs 19:57.720 --> 20:00.840 You know they're starting to mean something you can just ask Dan Ra 20:01.640 --> 20:02.840 I 20:02.840 --> 20:05.640 Look at the camera said you know that shit. I'm getting nothing 20:06.200 --> 20:10.680 And then like everyone's cracking up like no, I said that's so horrible. That's a restrictive the 20:10.680 --> 20:16.920 There's so much you can't do because of corporate politics and of course I totally agreed and I know it's like because I've been in 20:17.720 --> 20:22.520 A corporate political corporate political television broadcast situation. It's just the way it is 20:23.960 --> 20:29.240 And then it can't fault it. That's just what it what is this way? It's grown and we don't have that those restrictions thank God 20:29.480 --> 20:34.600 Because no one owns us if you don't want to be owned as a podcast, you don't have to be owned which makes it beautiful 20:34.600 --> 20:38.280 If you want to be on radio or TV your ass is gonna be owned by somebody 20:39.080 --> 20:45.880 So of course the conversation turned around or turned quickly to the memo who's it fault? What's happening? 20:46.760 --> 20:51.720 You know, I said hey, you know this investigation is supposed to last only a few weeks. You know, hey 20:52.360 --> 20:55.240 It's starting to look like a couple of months. You know, it's just taking a long time 20:56.200 --> 20:59.240 And all of this was off the record and 21:00.280 --> 21:03.240 Linear did tell me a few things and I promise not to talk about it 21:03.240 --> 21:08.360 I won't talk about it, but she did give me a little tidbit that she said I could talk about on my podcast 21:08.680 --> 21:12.040 And I think this is pretty much it's general knowledge within CBS 21:12.680 --> 21:17.880 At least it seems so so it's not like this is coming from only one source, but I certainly had never heard it before 21:18.360 --> 21:19.880 That the 21:19.880 --> 21:21.080 evening or the 21:21.320 --> 21:27.560 Was it the day after the the story broke about the Clinton memos when Dan went on the air 21:27.880 --> 21:29.880 He was wearing his 21:30.280 --> 21:32.280 Very special shirt 21:32.280 --> 21:35.320 And he has a shirt that has monogram cuffs that 21:35.960 --> 21:37.480 Have the initials 21:37.480 --> 21:39.480 F-E-A 21:40.120 --> 21:43.160 Embrouidered on the cuffs and that stands for 21:43.720 --> 21:45.720 Fuck-a-Mall 21:45.720 --> 21:48.920 So I thought that was a little interesting tidbit that you wouldn't get here on the source code 21:49.080 --> 21:53.960 I'm probably nowhere else, but tells you a little bit about Dan rather as well and the CBS 21:54.760 --> 21:56.120 Organization 21:56.120 --> 21:59.560 Of course also couldn't really talk about Howard Stern, which is a bit unfortunate 22:00.760 --> 22:01.960 because 22:01.960 --> 22:03.960 Howard Stern and CBS are 22:04.760 --> 22:09.640 The same company and of course an embarrassment for the parent company of CBS 22:10.040 --> 22:15.400 That Howard Stern is leading so therefore you can't talk about it, which and that's fucked up because I think Howard Stern 22:16.360 --> 22:18.360 Leaving for satellite radio 22:19.080 --> 22:22.520 Is relevant to the story and to podcasting in some ways 22:23.080 --> 22:25.560 It's not just a financial story. There's more to it 22:26.120 --> 22:30.920 But they know that also is a show is literally a show stopper 22:30.920 --> 22:35.720 So kind of interesting to know that you know that that's the stuff that you will never 22:36.920 --> 22:38.920 Here or see on CBS 22:39.640 --> 22:42.120 Because it's embarrassing to the to the corporate parent 22:42.920 --> 22:45.640 Second don't have me on my lighter broke 22:46.920 --> 22:50.520 I have these what is this cafe med the heart of South Beach 22:53.000 --> 22:56.680 These matches crack they're wet 22:57.720 --> 22:59.720 Which one more time 22:59.720 --> 23:01.720 Come on baby light 23:02.520 --> 23:03.720 Got it oh 23:03.720 --> 23:05.720 No go out. Oh 23:05.720 --> 23:07.400 There goes on too high. Okay 23:09.320 --> 23:11.320 There we go 23:12.680 --> 23:14.680 Good 23:14.680 --> 23:16.680 Okay 23:16.680 --> 23:18.680 And 23:18.680 --> 23:21.160 Got back. Oh, man. I was so tired after that 23:21.720 --> 23:23.720 Cultivation Christina 23:23.720 --> 23:27.080 Yeah, because they were you know close to getting ready to go to bed actually by that time 23:27.480 --> 23:31.400 Had a quick nap how to shower and then went out for for dinner. I like a none 23:32.440 --> 23:37.800 A non-business talked dinner with my friend Ron Bloom his lovely wife Marta 23:38.760 --> 23:46.520 And it was just nice. We went to actually cruise on a couple of the re i mean Marta knows that she's she's a model or was a model here in Miami 23:47.080 --> 23:49.080 Know's everybody 23:49.080 --> 23:53.480 All the beautiful people and so we went to some of these you know like the Ian Schrager restaurant and 23:54.760 --> 24:00.840 God, I don't remember in the name of all these places, but it was just all you know beautiful people and white flowing curtains and 24:01.640 --> 24:03.640 a cool breeze and 24:04.200 --> 24:07.160 Food and the right music and you know totally 24:07.560 --> 24:15.400 Well, like I walked into an episode of fucking Miami vise, you know except without the drug dealers or at least you know without the blatant drug dealer 24:15.400 --> 24:21.000 I'm sure lots of people are drug dealers who go to those places and you know hey they got to eat too 24:21.000 --> 24:26.520 And they had her entitled to a nice evening out, but it was really absolutely just at the night the weather was nice 24:26.840 --> 24:32.840 The food was excellent. I think this is Robert De Niro's place that we ate at which is ago agio ago ago 24:33.560 --> 24:35.560 I think that's a pronounce it ago. I'd say 24:37.640 --> 24:39.640 And just nice Italian food 24:40.680 --> 24:42.360 I had those see what I have I had 24:42.920 --> 24:51.000 Carpacho and then I had a grouper with black olives and hmm just outstanding outstanding 24:52.280 --> 24:54.280 Got back 24:54.280 --> 24:57.560 And of course, you know, I decided that I'd do a podcast now 24:58.760 --> 25:03.640 I did something that I do ever that I've been doing all week long all week long 25:04.120 --> 25:07.480 between like 11 and one I would go to 25:09.560 --> 25:11.080 My 25:11.080 --> 25:12.040 iPodder 25:12.040 --> 25:16.040 Which of course really runs only once an hour and I do a manual scan 25:17.000 --> 25:21.800 Because I want to see if there was another yeast radio if match wine scene it updated now 25:22.200 --> 25:26.200 You probably heard about you know, oh the big controversy boy 25:26.760 --> 25:27.720 Well, how to fund a 25:28.440 --> 25:31.640 Leave comments everywhere on the on the web logs about magic gate 25:32.360 --> 25:35.000 It's a little bit of confusion that crept into all of this 25:35.880 --> 25:38.200 First of all, I just got to say right off the bat 25:39.080 --> 25:45.640 That if anyone thinks that and I can only talk for myself here, so that's all I'm gonna do if anyone thinks that I did know that 25:46.040 --> 25:48.040 A match wine scene wasn't a woman 25:48.520 --> 25:53.880 Well, you know, did you really have been listening to anything? Of course, I didn't know that 25:54.760 --> 25:59.320 You know, I I figured it was exactly what it sounded like like a 50 year old 26:00.280 --> 26:06.120 Either trans sexual trans vestide trans gendered something person 26:08.040 --> 26:10.040 Probably Jewish 26:10.840 --> 26:15.240 Who had a very outspoken mind and didn't mind, you know 26:15.960 --> 26:20.200 Saying it with a whole bunch of nasty words or nasty words, you know 26:20.760 --> 26:23.400 It cracks me up. Here someone say Americans 26:23.560 --> 26:25.560 And 26:26.120 --> 26:30.120 I'd become in a very short amount of time even though I only I guess 26:31.560 --> 26:36.040 Yist radio has been around for at least a year maybe maybe even longer 26:37.480 --> 26:40.440 Oh, I second can I check that didn't I think match 26:42.040 --> 26:44.040 Posted 26:44.920 --> 26:46.920 an older 26:46.920 --> 26:48.920 show I 26:49.240 --> 26:52.200 God fire foxes like why is fire fox? 26:52.280 --> 26:54.280 Hosing out like this 26:55.480 --> 26:57.480 I don't like it. Okay, hold on 26:58.360 --> 27:00.360 Let me just check real quick. Where's 27:02.040 --> 27:06.200 He was he's radio. I think my mac is really sick 27:06.920 --> 27:08.920 Maybe tomorrow when I go to the apple store 27:11.000 --> 27:14.840 Oh, I see if anyone any of the anyone the genius bar has a clue 27:17.000 --> 27:19.000 So what is this September now? 27:19.960 --> 27:29.080 12 23 so I was before Christmas. I don't think I would was I listening then. No, okay, it doesn't matter 27:31.080 --> 27:33.080 Here's what happened 27:33.080 --> 27:35.080 So 27:35.080 --> 27:36.440 I totally 27:36.440 --> 27:42.200 Honest the god had that and we've talked about theater of the mind right I really had that image 27:42.840 --> 27:44.840 of match-wine steam in my head 27:45.480 --> 27:49.000 You hear the voice you hear a very mature person 27:49.640 --> 27:52.120 Speaking about you know political 27:53.800 --> 28:00.120 Issues it was yeah, blew me away. It was like to me this was this was what Howard Stern would want to 28:00.840 --> 28:02.440 Would want to do 28:02.440 --> 28:05.000 Particularly if he could speak his mind freely and 28:05.880 --> 28:11.160 You know this got into such a frenzy. I just love this this podcast so much 28:11.720 --> 28:15.800 That I you know I did something I've never done before on the source goes 28:15.800 --> 28:22.120 It let me let me call this person up and just say hey I'm a big fan and and keep it up and 28:23.400 --> 28:25.400 This phone call 28:26.280 --> 28:27.880 The person I was 28:27.880 --> 28:29.400 Talking to 28:29.400 --> 28:32.040 Sounded to me very much like a real person 28:34.040 --> 28:38.520 Not with you know all the pissed off magic is a little bit of that which of course made me laugh 28:39.480 --> 28:44.440 But because it there was nothing really funny intended and and it was a phone conversation 28:44.440 --> 28:47.800 It was not an interview although Madge may have thought it was an interview 28:48.920 --> 28:53.000 You heard basically the whole thing right I called up and say hey you know we're recording it 28:53.000 --> 28:59.640 We're recording now so you know that to me sounded like mad you asked that question in fact in in this conversation 28:59.640 --> 29:01.640 It's how old you I'm 50 you know 29:02.600 --> 29:05.400 So two things happen simultaneously 29:06.360 --> 29:09.640 Two days later I guess when 29:11.160 --> 29:21.480 There was not a regular yeast radio podcast but a podcast which was kind of like a scripted comedy bit and it completely broke down 29:23.160 --> 29:29.160 Everything that I had in my head it's shattered this image 29:29.400 --> 29:36.200 It's I think I mentioned this before it's kind of my dad one said that you know when he was young 29:36.200 --> 29:40.200 There was no television they listened to the radio and they had these plays on the radio 29:41.000 --> 29:46.680 And these drama series and it was you know the green hornet and whatever and his dad my grandfather 29:47.000 --> 29:52.760 Took him to a radio studio one day to see this and I guess my dad must have had a similar 29:53.640 --> 29:59.240 Type of reaction where it totally blew the entire experience form 29:59.240 --> 30:03.720 You know it's like never again could he listen to the green horn or the lone ranger god knows what it was 30:04.040 --> 30:06.760 Without knowing that these like you know just you know 30:07.800 --> 30:13.080 Guys who didn't look anything like superheroes or or you know people who could save your life 30:13.320 --> 30:17.480 We you know with sound effects and reading scripts and and it ruins it 30:18.120 --> 30:24.280 Or you know you know how that works that blew his his whole theater of the mind image that he had created and I had 30:24.840 --> 30:28.840 Totally created this this image of Madge Weinstein 30:29.960 --> 30:33.160 Because when I heard Madge Weinstein talk about 30:34.040 --> 30:36.040 politics and about 30:36.440 --> 30:38.440 World issues 30:38.440 --> 30:43.000 I said to myself yeah, it's obvious that's not scripted that's a real person saying real things 30:43.160 --> 30:50.440 I don't care if your name is Richard bluestein or greenstein or yellowstein or Madge Weinstein that was a real person 30:51.640 --> 30:53.160 And it 30:53.160 --> 30:55.160 You know it hit home with me every single time 30:55.960 --> 30:57.960 So what happened is first of all 30:59.080 --> 31:03.640 There's this whole scripted thing which you know made me immediately think oh my god you know 31:04.440 --> 31:06.760 How much of the person I spoke to 31:07.720 --> 31:10.360 on the telephone was Madge Weinstein 31:11.320 --> 31:15.480 Was it you know this person or not forget what the person is called and forget 31:18.360 --> 31:20.840 Yeah, just forget what the person's called that that's irrelevant 31:21.560 --> 31:25.480 At the same time and I hadn't gone searching you know Google 31:25.480 --> 31:29.640 I don't typically go searching Google for people. I had a great image of what Madge Dean 31:29.640 --> 31:31.880 Madge Weinstein looked like in my head and there was like 31:32.360 --> 31:37.560 You know all I had was an an RSS 2.0 podcast feed. That's all I needed from Madge 31:38.440 --> 31:42.360 And then I get all these pointers and that was pretty obvious pretty quickly that 31:43.000 --> 31:46.200 Madge Weinstein certainly does not look like the 50 year old 31:47.960 --> 31:50.360 Transgender trans sexual transvestite 31:50.920 --> 31:57.240 Whatever person 50 years old ballding Jewish you know that I thought but a much younger guy 32:00.760 --> 32:03.400 I'd say late 30s probably 32:04.360 --> 32:10.920 Um, and so that that whole image was just like you know scrap and then you know on top of that this 32:12.280 --> 32:19.160 This which you're boosting I believe is a performer and the Madge Weinstein character is a character 32:19.880 --> 32:21.160 and 32:21.160 --> 32:23.880 Here's what I heard I heard a 32:24.760 --> 32:26.760 Bit a skit and 32:26.760 --> 32:29.400 The first few minutes were were actually pretty funny 32:29.560 --> 32:34.760 But then it was kind of like I said one of those saturday night live bits where it just goes nowhere and you just kind of like hope like 32:35.720 --> 32:42.200 You know, you know, maybe something brilliant will happen at the end or you know what I mean right? Sometimes it just doesn't work 32:42.680 --> 32:45.400 Sometimes it does like you know when you have more cowbell 32:46.120 --> 32:48.120 But it wasn't working and 32:48.920 --> 32:52.680 And so a whole bunch of things started happening at the same time. I was like oh my god 32:53.400 --> 32:53.800 You know 32:53.800 --> 32:58.840 Here I was I thought very vulnerable because I was totally open and honest 32:59.400 --> 33:01.400 with Madge Weinstein 33:02.360 --> 33:04.360 Who I thought I had on the phone 33:05.720 --> 33:12.680 Saying you know, I really dig your stuff, you know, and I didn't mean your act or your bit. I mean what you were saying about political issues 33:14.680 --> 33:19.880 So it was very confusing very confusing, you know, so who would I talk to how much was an act and? 33:24.680 --> 33:26.680 I probably 33:26.680 --> 33:28.920 Both probably should have waited before responding to that 33:30.040 --> 33:31.400 Probably 33:31.400 --> 33:35.800 But doesn't matter because you know, hey, you know, Madge Weinstein says fuck you to people 33:35.800 --> 33:40.600 I get to say fuck you to people and it can also be to her it doesn't matter because you know 33:41.000 --> 33:43.000 That's just digs and stones 33:43.000 --> 33:47.240 But I certainly meant it you fuck you, you know, the fuck is all that about 33:48.280 --> 33:51.320 I was it's like little syvees bitty, you know if that would turn out to be 33:51.880 --> 33:58.920 Someone completely different than than than who I know and been talking about and you know turns out to be 34:01.880 --> 34:07.080 Like the bangles who tried to secretly reinvent themselves, you know, I I'd feel shitty too 34:07.080 --> 34:11.640 And it's not a bad that's not a good comparison forget about that anyway, so 34:14.920 --> 34:18.360 The next day or maybe was that evening 34:18.920 --> 34:20.120 Madge 34:20.120 --> 34:24.280 Replayed a podcast from December that was a December 23rd 34:25.000 --> 34:28.040 I didn't listen to it. I didn't want to hear anything old. I know you know 34:28.680 --> 34:32.600 I got it if if if you if you disclose to you are then I missed it 34:33.640 --> 34:35.640 And I apologize then if that was 34:35.640 --> 34:42.120 On it was just unclear to me and I was as we say in the lowlands. I was on it put on the wrong foot 34:42.120 --> 34:47.160 Basically on my back foot. Is that what yeah? What's that what the saying is here? I put in my back foot and like whoa, you know 34:48.040 --> 34:52.040 I'm not quite sure where I'm out here and you know, did I just get used here or 34:52.680 --> 34:56.360 Of course, I had nothing to do with it and in fact they've actually talked about this 34:56.920 --> 35:02.920 He said you know, did you ask if you know if she's like transsexual or transgender? You know, can you imagine how embarrassed? 35:03.720 --> 35:05.720 I would have been 35:06.600 --> 35:08.760 If I'd actually ask the question, you know 35:09.000 --> 35:13.080 Where's it's I think it's pretty clear that this is just a guy doing this 35:13.480 --> 35:19.560 Madge Weinstein character and also that kind of then comes around to the cancer comment where I thought 35:19.560 --> 35:27.320 I just really thought when when and if you haven't listened to all of you know all of these things in the podcast and you don't know what the hell I'm talking about but 35:28.840 --> 35:30.840 a lot of you have I know so 35:32.440 --> 35:41.480 You know, I figured Madge Weinstein really is serious about this yeast business and I probably just don't know enough about yeast and I still don't know if that's serious or not 35:41.560 --> 35:47.960 But I guess not I really thought that you know, there's a serious problem with yeast. Hey, I'm gullible. What can I tell you? You know 35:48.280 --> 35:50.280 There's all kinds of crappy sicknesses 35:52.360 --> 35:55.080 I don't know and you know you've been talked about that on the source code 35:55.080 --> 35:57.400 So I guess I just felt violated all around by 35:58.200 --> 36:00.840 Some skit and you know, maybe 36:01.320 --> 36:06.440 Madge had just just should have said before the phone call that we had hey, you know, by the way and I would have 36:07.080 --> 36:10.680 You know, I would have done something with that. Maybe I would have disclosed or but 36:11.640 --> 36:17.080 It just would have been better if I'd known a little bit more about it. So maybe that's my fault. Maybe I shouldn't call people up without knowing 36:17.800 --> 36:19.800 more about them 36:19.800 --> 36:21.640 bottom line. I listened to 36:22.760 --> 36:25.960 Madge Weinstein not a regular yeast radio today 36:27.000 --> 36:31.720 Which just came out because I still of course you know scan do a manual scan around this time 36:32.840 --> 36:39.480 And it was the same person who I spoke to on the telephone. It was you know Madge Weinstein and 36:40.040 --> 36:45.240 That's what this person called herself Madge Weinstein and 36:46.600 --> 36:48.600 One thing I certainly know is that 36:50.920 --> 36:55.320 Madge Weinstein certainly got certainly got them in my message and I think that 36:56.200 --> 36:58.200 if we 36:58.200 --> 37:02.120 We can probably just leave all that where it is and I'd love to hear 37:03.400 --> 37:05.400 The Madge Weinstein that I 37:05.640 --> 37:07.640 completely fell in love with 37:08.280 --> 37:11.800 And I've been listening to every single time there's a new podcast 37:13.800 --> 37:16.440 When it's about you know when it's the yeast radio 37:16.840 --> 37:19.800 Madge Weinstein looking at the world talking about our job 37:20.520 --> 37:25.640 That's what I I would love to hear and I certainly were made a big fan 37:26.920 --> 37:32.200 If there's more a match like that that I can listen to the skits 37:32.920 --> 37:34.920 Not totally my deal 37:35.720 --> 37:39.480 Nothing wrong with it do whatever you want and you know 37:40.120 --> 37:44.520 Maybe they'll get better. I don't know but so that's just my input on all of that is that 37:45.960 --> 37:48.120 I like the Madge Weinstein who was sitting there 37:49.160 --> 37:53.880 Telling everyone off and going through the news and actually teaching me a little you know 37:53.880 --> 37:59.160 Teach you me a few things about what's going on in the world in the United States. I don't certainly don't know 38:00.600 --> 38:02.600 a lot about 38:03.160 --> 38:08.520 Why don't I'm the element of different country you miss a lot of these cool things and insights and I think that 38:09.560 --> 38:17.480 The Madge has a real good good eye for what's going on in the country so hope we get more of that and actually I guess what I should do now is 38:18.120 --> 38:20.120 maybe just play a song 38:20.840 --> 38:22.840 For y'all 38:22.840 --> 38:26.120 Let me see what can I get anything nice that I can play here 38:27.000 --> 38:30.680 Or should I just end it more like 40 minutes right that's pretty much it 38:33.480 --> 38:35.480 Oh 38:36.120 --> 38:38.120 What shall I play 38:40.120 --> 38:42.120 Man 38:42.760 --> 38:44.920 I don't think I have much in the way of 38:45.960 --> 38:48.840 Something that'll fit I told you didn't have anything prepared 38:55.000 --> 38:57.000 Shoot 38:58.520 --> 39:00.520 Okay 39:01.400 --> 39:04.440 Yeah, oh oh wait a minute 39:04.440 --> 39:09.400 I was gonna choose something but then I just saw another one of my play. That's a basic looking my eye tunes 39:09.960 --> 39:13.800 to myself now hold on this is what I want to play hold on 39:16.520 --> 39:23.080 I got patched this through from eye tunes man my Mac is so slow. I hope this doesn't affect the recording 39:24.440 --> 39:28.600 Okay, and now we put the earphone in here. Let's see if we can 39:29.000 --> 39:31.000 Cut this 39:32.280 --> 39:34.280 Yeah 39:36.520 --> 39:38.520 This is 10cc 39:39.800 --> 39:41.800 The things we do for love 39:43.320 --> 39:47.800 Well, we do a lot here on your day in source code 39:48.750 --> 42:43.750 [ Music ] 42:45.440 --> 42:48.440 Oh yeah, nothing like a little tendency scene 42:48.440 --> 42:50.440 On what morning everybody? 42:50.440 --> 42:52.440 The things we do for love 42:52.440 --> 42:57.120 You may have been listening to this song on your Microsoft smartphone. 42:57.120 --> 43:00.520 I'm not quite sure what a Microsoft smartphone is or what it looks like, but there's 43:00.520 --> 43:03.720 a new iPod around linked into the directory, of course. 43:03.720 --> 43:06.400 It's iPod here in that. 43:06.400 --> 43:07.400 Oh, shoot. 43:07.400 --> 43:08.400 Oh, crap. 43:08.400 --> 43:09.400 Sorry. 43:09.400 --> 43:10.400 That's iTunes. 43:10.400 --> 43:14.440 Of course you heard that iTunes continued to roll. 43:14.440 --> 43:23.760 iPod or SP, this is the podcast and client for the MS smartphone. 43:23.760 --> 43:27.240 And so basically, I guess the smartphone is kind of like a PDA with a phone and it 43:27.240 --> 43:31.040 maybe that's what they call the XDA in Europe. 43:31.040 --> 43:32.120 Well, guess what? 43:32.120 --> 43:35.120 You can now receive podcasts on that. 43:35.120 --> 43:36.120 It's cool. 43:36.120 --> 43:43.040 I see that the iPod.org directory is integrated right into it. 43:43.040 --> 43:50.600 I see in the screenshots that data source code is linked in, scripting, trade secrets 43:50.600 --> 43:53.800 podcast and evil genius chronicles. 43:53.800 --> 43:56.400 It has an progress bar. 43:56.400 --> 44:00.400 OK, it says that it's still alpha quality. 44:00.400 --> 44:01.680 But wow, this is great. 44:01.680 --> 44:04.800 This is Andrew Davy, who I presume he did it. 44:04.800 --> 44:05.600 He sent me the email. 44:05.600 --> 44:06.600 I'm pretty sure he created. 44:06.600 --> 44:11.440 This is the, what, so this is version 0.2. 44:13.960 --> 44:20.080 And you couldn't get it from equine.co.uk slash iPod or SP. 44:20.080 --> 44:24.960 And I'll do this in aviation abbreviations, right? 44:24.960 --> 44:32.000 So it's echo, Quebec, uniform, indian november.co.uk slash iPod or SP. 44:32.000 --> 44:36.760 That's india poppa, Oscar Delta Delta, echo Romeo, sheriff poppa. 44:36.760 --> 44:39.800 Oh boy, I can't wait to get those show notes up, I guess. 44:39.800 --> 44:42.240 Maybe I shouldn't do any show notes, just write it down. 44:42.280 --> 44:45.800 You know, rewind it, write it down if you want to know what that is. 44:45.800 --> 44:49.000 I'm too tired for, I'm too tired to do show notes. 44:49.000 --> 44:50.560 So it looks really cool. 44:50.560 --> 44:56.280 And now I guess I gotta go see if I can find a Microsoft smartphone. 44:56.280 --> 44:57.640 Or is that only one model? 44:57.640 --> 45:01.280 I don't know if it's a range of phones or it's just one model. 45:01.280 --> 45:04.480 Regardless, very cool. 45:04.480 --> 45:06.920 Excellent, excellent job. 45:06.920 --> 45:09.640 OK, well, that's it. 45:09.680 --> 45:14.640 If you don't mind, I will, uh, leave you with, uh, 45:14.640 --> 45:16.640 the power of your intelligence. 45:16.640 --> 45:19.640 Yeah, everybody. 45:19.640 --> 45:22.240 Uh, what else, now that's it. 45:22.240 --> 45:24.640 Adam McCurry.com, that's what we can leave comment. 45:24.640 --> 45:26.640 Uh, you can send me, uh, 45:26.640 --> 45:29.640 if you want, you can even send me an audio comment. 45:29.640 --> 45:31.640 I'll do a little bit behind on the email. 45:31.640 --> 45:34.640 So maybe we should hang off for a few tears too. 45:34.640 --> 45:37.640 The power of the door is closed. 45:38.640 --> 45:41.640 And by the way, I really wish you could do something about the latency, 45:41.640 --> 45:45.640 or the delay that is still in built-in doll podcasting systems. 45:45.640 --> 45:49.640 Pretty soon, I'm just going to have to get an external mixer and an external recording 45:49.640 --> 45:55.640 device and do it all off the computer because it's almost not doing any more. 45:55.640 --> 45:58.640 Of course, they add all the crap. 45:58.640 --> 46:00.640 Hey, these are my own problems. 46:00.640 --> 46:04.640 You know, trying to solve them for your past. 46:04.640 --> 46:06.640 Tomorrow, there will be another daily source code. 46:06.640 --> 46:08.640 I hope to see you then. 46:08.640 --> 46:09.640 Take care, everybody. 46:09.640 --> 46:11.640 Good night, Incarnate.