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source code for January 17th,
2005.

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Transmators, we don't need no
stinking transmators.

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And good morning, good
afternoon, good evening.

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Hi everybody, welcome to the day
of the source code coming to you
once again from

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Curry Cottage in in the
affluence.

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Suray, suburb, cold gulfed.

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It's the start of a new week and
we've got a lot of

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lots of stuff to talk about on
the source code.

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All podcasts related of most of
those.

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Well, a new start, a new way to
kick off the source code.

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I've been receiving lots of
emails from people.

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Now is more and more people are
coming online and enjoying
podcasts.

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It seems that the ID3 tags just
aren't enough when searching
through

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whatever messed up playlist
system your particular MP3
player might have.

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So the request was, could you
just start off by giving a
little identification tag so
that when someone hits

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the play button, they know
exactly which source code
they're listening to.

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Okay, fair enough, January 17th,
2003.

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I keep forgetting that when you
got headphones on, you can't
take your glasses off because
you

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never get a background again.

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Okay, there we go.

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All right, 40 minutes
approximately that is of all the
latest goings on in the podcast

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land and lots of responses to
the previous podcast from last
week.

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The first thing I really want to
talk about is the amount of
response I got about my

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easy jet experience traveling
with Egypt.

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In fact, I'm about to book
another easy jet trip for this
week to the Netherlands to do a
couple

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of a couple of meetings.

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David Burgess said that he had a
similar easy jet experience and
he said polite, efficient,

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orderly, although the playing
was smaller than the Airbus 319
on the one that I flew on.

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But I think this is, oh, he goes
to this whole story about how
people brought their own

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champagne on board and how the
students were all kind of cool
with it and how the other

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passengers were cool with it.

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All of these, of course, in the
production show, it's OPML file,
which I'm thinking about

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actually posting these in the
blog post itself when I create
the entry for Eves New Daily

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source code.

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Just probably need to format a
little bit differently or polish
it up so it doesn't look

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so crappy on a web page.

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But otherwise, you'll be able to
get to all of those comments.

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That's a really good one.

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That's why I posted it up there.

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Just been trolling through my
iPod, I spent most of the
weekend downloading stuff.

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Of course, downloading
automatically, transferring it
to my I-River.

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I got to tell you, I am
completely an I-River guy now.

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For some reason, it's just, it
works better for me than the
iPod.

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It certainly is nicer because I
have the old iPod, not the mini.

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God forbid, not the micro or
the, no, what was it?

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It's the shuffle.

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That's right.

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David Letterman had a bit that I
saw last night.

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He had this little itsy bitsy,
like an inch high by an inch
wide mock-up of kind of like

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the iPod shuffle and he said,
look, Paul, this is the iPod
micro.

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It's like, yeah, exactly.

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One podcast, even, that would be
perfect, wouldn't it?

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It's time once again for
America's favorite radio show,
the radio and such a subduct of
Floyd,

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brought to you by
ductafloey.com.

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This week, we join our heroes as
a screen through time and space.

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Yeah, you just don't get radio
like that anymore, do you?

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We were talking about Kennedy,
the VJ.

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On my last sounding tour down to
Starbucks at Gilford and Matthew
Bishop, of course, quite

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active in the podcast community,
checked in, he said, thought
like, you know, that former

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MTV VJ Kennedy now hosts the
game show network show, friends
or foe, yeah, well, she probably

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has about the same amount of
viewers as I have listeners to
the source code, so we wish

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her well.

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It's just never was one of my
favorite people, Kennedy.

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God, gosh, we got so much to go
through.

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I have so many different sound
clips and so many different
things I want to talk about,

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particularly about the sound
seeing tour, because people are
really catching onto this

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concept and it's not just a
concept that works when you're,
well, I don't know, it works

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everywhere basically and I was
turned on to another podcast,
which is actually, it's not

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officially a podcast, it's a
beer cast, now there are a lot
of different beer cast, if you

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look at the iPodot org
directory, which I heard by the
way that the iPodot org is
listed

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in the top 20,000 of most sites
visited ever in the universe of
the history of the

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Incarnets, and where did I hear
that, I heard it on, gosh, this
is the problem, you know,

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when you're listening to your
I-river and open podcast that
org for instance is something I

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listened to a lot, I subscribe
to that, but also podcast
brothers and there's so many
different

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different podcasts that I just
think, oh yeah, this is so
great, I want to play a piece on
my

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show, I want to talk about it
and what I want is a knob, you
know, a knob where I can hit
that

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button, it remembers where it
was, what file it was, let's me
say something so I can, you
know,

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leave a little audio note to
myself, that's gotta be
possible, someone, somehow in
the,

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can someone hack that up in the
firmware of the I-river please,
I'll gladly pay for it,

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make it happen for me. So here's
one of those things that I did,

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remember to put into today's
podcast, this is the beer
casting American tour,

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you'll be interested to hear
this because this is global
maybe. Hey Adam, this is Greg
from

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beer casting.com, it's just
right to let you know about the
beer casting America tour,

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which I am just about to kick
off over the next few months. I
don't know if you have ever
heard

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of one of our beer casts, but
here's the scoop, what I do is
I'm going on tour to a bunch of
different

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cities, all across the US, I
introduce a bunch of new people
who have never really met before

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to what I call beer casting,
podcasting with the buzz.

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That's a great slogan.
Podcasting with the buzz.
Podcasting with the buzz,
everybody.

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That's what I, in fact, I wanted
to call the Daily Source Code
just that, the Daily Source
Code,

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podcasting with the buzz. Beer
cast is essentially a podcast
that I record live in a bar,

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and then use all that RSS
goodness to kind of get it out
to the world. And I'll let
people hear,

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you know, what everyone's
thinking about, all kinds of
random shit from

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why men are love cat fights down
to politics down to tsunami,
everything in between.

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The tour actually just got
started this week. It's going
on. It was out in Worcester,
Mass. On Tuesday,

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hosted about 14 people out
there. Also had a few people
down in New York City doing it
the same time.

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Later on this month, I'll be
hitting DC. Next Tuesday, the
18th, Seattle, Washington.

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On the 23rd, Portland, Oregon,
on the 26th, then goes on to
February, and I'll be in
Houston,

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on the 7th, San Antonio, on the
8th, Austin, on the 9th. The
second half of February,

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and we'll go shoot down to
Florida. Checking out West Palm
Beach on the 20th, for
Waterdale,

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on the 21st, and South Beach,
which you know, good and well.
In the 22nd.

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Seriously, though, the best part
for me is not really the travel.
The cool thing is that on

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every city I visited or talked
to or been to, it's somebody
down there is helping me
organize the event.

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You know, they're getting people
together to help me find
location. I've been to some

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most of these places, but you
know, I've been there so long.
So it's really great that people

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come out of water work and
they're saying, hey, you know, I
love you to come down here to
look

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if you do it down here. March
is, you know, kind of distant
dream right now, but already

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it looks like California is
where I'm going to be. Getting
people already sent it, you
know,

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and invite me to come do it down
there. I'm really hoping that if
there's any daily source

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code listeners out there and one
of these cities or someplace
that they think it'd be great to
do

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one, I hope you come out, meet
up, shoot me an email. Full
schedule's up at
www.bearcastin.com,

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and you can check out some of
the old shows and see how people
are going to do it and what

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we do and enjoy a lot of fun.
You can also email me,
graygetbeardcasting.com. Well,

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well, thanks for listening and I
hope you're a bandwidth get
solved real soon.

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Oh, great. Oh, please. Oh, the
fucking bandwidth. It's killing
me, man. It's fucking killing
me.

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I put a big post on my weblog
today. Hopefully to get someone
animated to come out and help me

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before I start pulling up the
curb myself to connect the last
15 meters. The last, you know,

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30 feet or so of 50 feet maybe
of wire. And when I listen to
that, right, and I listen to as
many

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podcasts I possibly can. Most
people, including my wife, my
lovely wife Patricia, say, where
do you

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find the time to listen to all
these? Well, actually, it's very
clear where I find that time.

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It's at Starbucks. Three hours a
day is when I'm checking
everything out. I'm not just
uploading

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and also downloading folks. But
when I hear stuff like this,
right, I'm thinking of myself,
hold on.

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We got to crank up the reverb
here for a second. Ow, let's see
if we can do this. Hello,

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wait, that's the wrong. I'm
doing the wrong thing here. No,
I wanted to. Okay, let's see if
I can, oh,

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oh, oh, oh, oh, let's see. Okay.
Hello. Okay. We are now turning
the podcast transmitter towards

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St. Louis, Missouri. Hello, and
heiser Bush. Robert McColley and
heiser Bush pay attention.

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People are doing beer casts. A
perfect moment to underwrite a
beer cast. Okay. Let me, yeah,

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there we go. Turn on the reverb.
Just like, you know, there's
opportunity out there. Anyone
coming

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into the beer space right now
could own that in podcasting.
And I certainly hope Greg has a
good

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time on this tour. I wonder what
people are drinking. I'm
certainly one that's going to be

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subscribing to the show and
listening to it. Okay, about the
sound seeing tour, which is
certainly

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as you'll find out later on in
today's podcast. It's not
something that's new,

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but it is something that we've
kind of forgotten, you know,
just sound. What does it sound
like when

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you're somewhere? In fact,
there's a, the new Ray Charles
movies coming out, right, with
James

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at Jamie Far from an living
color, who was Jamie Far from
Saturday Night Live. In living
color,

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I guess, right? Who does a
fantastic Ray Charles?
Absolutely blows me away. Can't
wait to see

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this movie, but there's a guy
who, you know, from age seven,
six or seven, I think,

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only had sound. And we forget
about that. And we forget about
how much sound there is. And
basically,

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on the radio sound is all mushed
and mangled into one, you know,
big commercial block that kind
of

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flows towards you, not all
radio, of course, but lots of,
lots of radio. So people are
really

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catching on to these sound
seeing tours. And I'd love to
hear if other people are doing
them,

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and I'd love to, you know, go on
a sound seeing tour of my own,
not while recording, but while

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listening to someone else. And
I've got a lot of response to
the last one, and so of course,
I did the

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my, my first sound seeing tour
on South Beach, walking down the
ocean drive in, in Florida.

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The other one I did last was it
Friday. In fact, I went to drop
Christina off at,

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near the high street yesterday.
She was meeting up with some
friends from school to go hang
out, apparently.

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It's pretty pretty harmless, I
guess, for them to hang out here
and gilford,

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can't run into too much trouble.
And Patricia called me and said,
are you recording? You

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should record that when you drop
her off and what it's like? Good
idea. I will. I certainly,

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maybe she's just Mike Christina,
and let her go on a sound seeing
tour. Sound seeing tour gilford

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has a 14-year-old girl. I'm
learning so much. We've got, you
know, that here in the UK,

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so at her school, there are
different groups of people. I'm
not going to digress on this too
much,

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but we've got the chaves, and
we've got the pikes. And I'm
learning more, and more, I think
I'm

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probably more like a pikesy
myself, but we're learning more
about these groups every day as
we settle

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into the English culture.
Anyway, so the number one thing
people want to know about my

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sound seeing tour is the setup.
What am I using to record it?
And I think that this is really
key,

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because first of all go through
the elements, and then I'll tell
you why these are probably the

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right elements to use and why
they're important. So the
recording device is my iRiver,

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IFP799. They're several
different models. I like this
one because it can hold up to a
gig

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of recording, and if you do,
it's, I see I recorded 44
kilohertz on 128 KBPS. That's
what I record at,

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not what it actually gets sent
out as, but I want to have a
really high quality recording to
start with.

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And that's about a megabyte a
minute. So if you do, you know,
40 minutes, you're going to be

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pretty much around 40 meg. So
plenty of plenty of space in
there. What I like about the
iRiver is you

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can, when you put it into record
mode, and of course you can lock
it, right? So you put this
little

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iRiver into your pocket, and it
won't automatically switch off.
It plays the sound through. So

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you can crank up the volume, and
essentially when you have the
earbuds in your ears, you're
listening

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to exactly what people will hear
when they listen to the sound
seeing tours. And believe me,

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you hear a very different sound
scape than when you're just
listening with your ears.

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So then what I do is I hook up
my wireless microphone said.
This is the kind, this is a

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electro-eli shit. Hold on a
second. Let me, let me just grab
around my bag and make sure.

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Yeah, that's a real good
production.

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Yeah, here it is. Sorry. I
should have that. Prepared for
you. This is the, okay, it's the

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electro-eli CT-R-O. U-M-1-1-0.
This is a set that we picked up,
so there's many times before.

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When we did a reality show to
the Adam's family, and it's of
course complete overkill to have

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the transmitter in my front
pocket, and the receiver in my
back pocket hooked up to the

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R.I. River. The advantage is
this microphone is incredible.
The way it picks up audio,

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and it has a little lovelier, so
you can just clip it onto your
collar and no one will really

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know that you're recording
anything. The sound is
phenomenal. That's what everyone
hears. You can

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hear everything around you. It
has a very light compression in
it. Of course, garbage and
garbage

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out. You've got to have the
right microphone. This works for
me. I'm sure that there are
other

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mic setups that will work, but
that's what everyone wants to
know. It's the electro-U-M-1-10

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electro-U-HF transmitter
receiver pair. Not cheap. I'll
tell you that. I think I paid
$2,000

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euros for that, so that's almost
$4,000 these days. Then what I
do is I basically connect the

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out of the electro receiver up
to the input of the I-River,
switch it on, and then I can
listen

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to exactly what I'm recording.
Another additional benefit of
this setup is that if you hold
the

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I-River in your hand, and you're
left hand, for instance, and of
course the wires are hooked

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up to your head, right, and
there's another wire running
into your pocket to the receiver
of the

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microphone receiver, is that it
looks like you're holding onto a
cellular phone. Therefore, if
you're

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walking down the street, talking
crap, you know, doing your sound
seeing tour, people basically

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won't look at you like you're
some degenerate idiot, or the
villager idiot for the

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walking around talking to
yourself. Alternatively, you can
just keep the hold the cell
phone up

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to your ear, even though it can
be off just pretending like
you're talking into it. But I
predict

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that pretty soon it'll be
normal, you know, people are
doing sound seeing tours all
over the

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place, and it'll be a very
normal thing to see in the city
or village landscape. One
additional bit

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I would really love to have if
it was at all possible. One
additional feature would be GPS.

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I'm so convinced that if I could
connect GPS data to the sound
seeing tour, that we'd have

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something absolutely phenomenal.
Better yet, wouldn't it be great
just to have some kind of GPS

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it is basically a connection
with GPS, so I could do the
sound seeing tour. I could, you
know,

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mark where I make a comment, and
you could follow along with that
tour, or alternatively,

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you could just be walking
anywhere, and let's say you had
an iPod, an MP3 player with GPS
in it,

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and it would download GPS data,
so let's say we had the sound
seeing tour. God damn it,

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I should register that domain
name. What we're doing that, let
me see if that's available.

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Sound seeing tour.com, of
course, what I would, my
computer is not going to like me
doing this

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while I'm recording. Okay,
before I upload the show, I'm
checking God damn it, so you
can't capture

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that from me right away. I'll
shoot. Now my computer is
completely hoising out. Hold on,
let me see if

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Firefox will die. Go away. Go,
please. Hide. Okay, great. So
you basically upload your data.
So let's

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say I upload the data for a
gilford, and if you're walking
around gilford, then, you know,
your MP3

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player will go, bling, you know,
we've got a message in this
spot, and then I could, you
know, click,

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and then it would automatically
bring me that or play that a
sound file for me. Of course,

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it seems like this would be
logical to have it. Maybe we
need to be able to put that into
the RSS.

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Yeah, there you go. So we need
data that we can add into RSS
feed along with the enclosure.

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So, hey, there's another reason
for a name space. Does anyone
get what I'm talking about?

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Where you can basically have
these comments in space, so you
could subscribe to sound

18:29.360 --> 18:31.840
something like that. There's
something in there that we got
to work on.

18:32.720 --> 18:37.440
And I've got a lot of comments
and actually a real old
fashioned

18:39.680 --> 18:46.720
sound sing tour from the 1940s,
but first a word from Patrick.
Hey, Adam, this is Patrick from
80s

18:46.720 --> 18:52.240
Airwaves, not a podcast, but a
full-time online radio station
dedicated to 80s music, movie
clips,

18:52.240 --> 18:56.880
and more. Now that you have your
bandwidth, check us out as we
broadcast live from a bonus room

18:56.960 --> 19:02.560
over the garage at
80sairwaves.com. I just listened
to your podcast on last week
your sound trip

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down ocean drive and south
beach. I think it's the best
podcast I've heard so far. You
mentioned

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two things that caused me to put
this audio reply together.
First, you mentioned how you're

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involvement in the music
business during the 80s caused
you to miss a lot of the great
stuff

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that came out during that
period. Our radio station plays
a really wide variety of great
music

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from the 80s, not just the MTV
stuff, but we throw in some
scop, punk, rap, hair bands,
more.

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So I hope you'll check us out
and let me know what you think.
This could be your chance to

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catch up on what you missed back
then and Patrick got some
cowbells. Second, you sounded
pretty

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stressed about the response to
the interview with Madge from
the East Radio person.
Personally,

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having survived cancer and
radiation treatment myself and
even having lost my father to
cancer,

19:46.560 --> 19:50.080
I personally like to tell people
just to chill the fuck out.
There are a lot more important

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things in life to do than to get
up tight about one person has to
say about yeast infections.

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So chill out people. That's it
Adam. Keep up the great work.

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Alright, Patrick, excellent.
Thanks very much, Madge. Yeah,
my mom has a sign on the her,

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one of those old fashioned, what
do you call it? My great
grandmother used to knit them
all the time.

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Oh, shoot. A sampler is that we
call it a sampler? And it's
basically it's a crocheted or
knit

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type thing that hang on the wall
and it has little slogan there
like the one I remember is the
road

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to a friend's house is never
long. But my mom has one and
it's I used to complain about my
shoes

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hurting my feet until I met a
man who had no feet. And yeah,
that's obviously true. You know,

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I'm bitching and moaning about
my bandwidth but the hell of a
lot worse that could be
happening to me

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or you know, could have happened
to have been very fucking lucky
in the past year. So

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you're right, Patrick, there you
go. We also just chill out. And
by the way,

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I've been listening to Madge's
recent podcasts. The one about
Apple about Steve Jobs keynote
is

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fucking hilarious. You got to
listen to it. Absolutely
fantastic. Okay, now let's go
back in time

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because we're going to listen to
well, the introduction speaks
for itself. Check this out.
You're going to

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love this. Hi Adam, this is Jim
Widner. I wanted to tell you
that first of all how much I've
been

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enjoying your daily source code
sound scene tours. Your recent
tour to Starbucks reminded me of
an

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MP3 file that I have in my
collection. It's from a radio
series that the BBC and CBS
radio

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put together in 1940 called
London after dark. One of the
programs featured CBS radio
bureau chief

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Edward Armerall standing near
Trifagar Square with the air
raid sirens blaring, giving
listeners a

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sort of sound scene of the area
during the blitz. So I thought
you might be interested in
hearing

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a clip from the program and I've
included it here. I know we take
you out of the streets of Black

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Outland and downstate Lake
Crescent-Shade region streets
along south to be Avenue of here
to

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name into sharing crossroads
London's Ken Panale and so to
come down this way. Moving there
is Edward

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Murrow, known to you as
Columbia's European director.
Come in Ed Murrow.

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This is the loudest where the
noise that you hear at the
moment is the sound of the air
raid sirens.

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I'm standing here just on the
steps of St. Martin's in the
field.

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A search light just burst into
action often in the distance.
Man's single being slipping the
sky above me

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now. People are walking along
that way. We're just at the
entrance of an air raid shelter
here and I must

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move this kid over just to bits
so people can walk in. I can see
just straight away in front of
me Lord

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Nelson on top of that big
column. There's no search light.
Just square behind Nelson's
statue.

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That's like you listen to the
traffic and the sound of the
siren for a moment.

23:13.440 --> 23:16.400
I'm in California. Tell your
man's steps in front of me to
light a cigarette.

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There's some kind of those red
buses around the corner. Do they
look at the fire?

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Just a few lights on the top
deck. In this blackness it looks
very much like a ship that's
passing in the knife and you
just see the purple.

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That was another bus. More
search lights come into action.

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You see them reach, they have
been to the sky in the cave.
Maybe they catch a cloud and
seem to splash on the bottom of
it.

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A little traffic lights here
just a small cross on the
Murrow's blood are now red. The
cars pull up and

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stop. I'll just ooze down in the
darkness here along these steps
and see if I can pick up the
sound of

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people's feet. Do they walk
along? One of the strangest
sounds one can hear in London
these days,

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or rather these dark nights.
Just the sound of footsteps
walking along the screen.

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Like ghosts shot with steel
shoes. Attachy goes up just in
front and stops.

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Just waiting for that red light
to change to green hole a siren
cloud.

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There it goes and the cars move
off. More search lights are in
action.

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We've not yet seen any burst of
anti-aircraft by a little bit of
them.

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No parts of this doesn't
necessarily mean that there are
planes actually over London at
this moment.

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We've had these warnings before,
of course.

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Can you hear the siren just
dying away in the distance now?

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Near red one walks out of this
shelter. The shelter there is
the crypt underneath this famous
old church,

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just on the edge of the father's
square. The crypt where in days
of peace one was many women,

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whatever to find a night's
slagginger.

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Industrial in all the steps of
people coming up and to this old
church.

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And so that went on to hang out
square.

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How cool is that? Now you may
have skipped past some of it
because the quality was

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well, 1940's quality. Man, if we
come a long way with sound
quality. But it's not awesome

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that then people were blown away
by that apparently. Of course
they were. I mean,

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geez, you were listening to an
air raid happening over London,
which was thousands of miles
away.

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And I presume that was live. I'm
not sure if it was. But really
cool to listen to.

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And I really appreciate the MP3
to be able to play that on the
source code.

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I was going to say, oh yeah, by
the way, if you are skipping
past, I've noticed on the
iRiver,

25:52.640 --> 26:02.080
which is highly configurable,
actually. You can adjust the
joystick as to how fast it's
going to

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fast forward when you push it to
the right or of course rewind
when you push it to the left.

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And it does give you the audio
as it skips the longs. You can
make it go at like 30 seconds of

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pop at one second of pop. You
can really change. I think it's
like four or five different
levels.

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You can change it for skipping.
So another reason to look at the
iRiver, I should really get paid
by

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those fuckers, shouldn't I? Or
they should at least fix the
firmware so I can do more cool
stuff with it.

26:23.680 --> 26:29.280
Anyway, cool. Sound sing tours.
Definitely something that I want
to hear more of. And I've been

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thinking about maybe something I
should do is put a new podcast
together where all of these

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clips that I play or maybe
clips, maybe even clips that I
don't play is probably better.

26:41.280 --> 26:45.200
Just a short podcast that I
like. I can just kind of throw
them into one bin and you
subscribe

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to that and it just brings you
all the all the new stuff that I
think is worth listening to.

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That's something we can do. Oh,
here that drunken voice again.
That's one thing we haven't
solved.

26:54.320 --> 27:01.760
Yep, it's the latency issues. I
think there's a, in November,
there's a podcast

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expo. We'll be held in
California that I keep hearing
about. I'm not sure. I think
that the

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podcast brothers are actually
organizing that. But they're
talking about a place where, of
course,

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podcasts, there's a come and
meet each other. But also, where
vendors, and I listen to the
podcast

27:16.880 --> 27:21.040
brothers at podcast brothers
that org all the time, where
vendors will be able to show off
their

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hard and software solutions for
podcasters. Well, I certainly
hope we have some by them
because

27:27.520 --> 27:33.360
we don't really have them yet,
except for mixed cast live,
which, well, it works only on
Windows with

27:33.360 --> 27:40.320
dot net. But there's so much, so
we can do so much better with
tools for, for making these
podcast.

27:40.320 --> 27:45.680
We really can. And you know me,
right? I am the guy who loves
the short podcast.

27:46.320 --> 27:58.080
The legal underground word for
the day is resend, which means
you aggregate a null, avoid, or
cancel

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a contract, particularly
nullifying a contract by the act
of a party, to declare a
contract void

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in its inception, and to put an
end to it, as though it never
works. Not merely to terminate
it

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and release parties from further
obligations to each other, but
you aggregate it from the
beginning,

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and restore parties to relative
positions, which they would have
occupied, and no contract

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ever been made. Source, lacks
law dictionary, with
pronunciations fifth edition.

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All right, the legal word for
the day is resend. There you go.
See, that would be, we could do
a

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little format where you, you
know, put together an OPML file
of your shit. That's almost
that.

28:38.880 --> 28:43.440
That's a cool application. You
could decide if you wanted the
word of the day, the sound of
the

28:43.440 --> 28:48.080
day, the grout show of the day,
or the legal word of the day.
I'm telling you, we got a
station.

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It's very, very close. A couple
of things I wanted to mention.
First of all, I want to say

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hi to Irwin of Irwin's podcast
in the Netherlands. I'm not
really going to extrovert a
piece of

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his show, nor do I want to
extrovert pieces of all these
podcasts that I talk about, but
just

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want Irwin to know that I listen
to his show. It comes out almost
every single day, I think,

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or at least like four or five
times a week. I listen to his
show with great joy, not only
for the,

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you know, the song that he plays
every single day, which he's
usually is 60s or 70s,

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oldies, oldies, too. But also he
brings me up the speed within,
like, what is it? Five or six

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minutes of exactly what's going
on in the media landscape in
Holland. And I don't even read
the

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paper anymore. It's Irwin's
podcast. I don't know what I'm
listening to. I just want to
say,

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Erwin Iglarse de Frachnallia.
Also been exchanging a lot of
email with the bitties,

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the civiest bitties. You know,
my girls from New York City,

29:38.000 --> 29:42.640
bittiesforever.com is where you
can find out all about them and
their music and we've played
them

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on the source code many times.
There was a cover real special
last Thursday, which I didn't

29:47.360 --> 29:50.160
catch until the weekend, but of
course, doesn't matter because
that's, you know, that's the
great

29:50.160 --> 29:54.800
thing about it is your iPod, it
will pick it up, you know, no
matter when you do your iPod
scan.

29:55.520 --> 30:01.760
And it was great to hear them,
although God, I chat, socks, it
was really quality. And I know
that,

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yeah, there were apologies at
front for the quality of that,
but it was an eye chat
conversation

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between Canada and I guess New
York where the girls were. And
yeah, it's just not cotton it.

30:11.440 --> 30:16.560
You know, Skype is far superior,
but of course, Skype won't work
properly on the Mac yet.

30:17.120 --> 30:23.840
And what an incredible
opportunity. I mean, the Skype
guys could make Skype the
podcast tool

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do sure, you know, instead of
call someone just record it
straight to MP3. I hear,

30:29.440 --> 30:33.600
ah, where's that? I had a
comment somewhere, which I'll
probably won't be able to play
today,

30:33.600 --> 30:38.800
because I can't find it right
off the bat, but they also have
a beta test of voice mail now.

30:39.520 --> 30:44.480
It'll send you an MP3 of voice
mail. So even if your computer
is not connected, it'll store
the message for you.

30:44.480 --> 30:50.160
And then I guess you can
retrieve it somehow. You know,
so they've got all the bits in
place.

30:50.160 --> 30:56.080
And then of course, to be able
to call someone who has Skype
and do an interview or have a
conversation

30:56.160 --> 31:00.960
or conference in multiple
people, I mean, it could be your
own Gilmore gang set up, you
know,

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even though, well, look at the
stuff that Doug K does. He's
got, you know, professional
mixing board,

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professional audio, you know,
phone bridge to hook everyone
together. It could be done with
Skype,

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but I don't know, Skype just
isn't, you know, well, maybe
they're sticking to their
mission,

31:13.520 --> 31:18.960
which is probably a good thing.
I am, by the way, about to order
one of those Skype phones

31:18.960 --> 31:24.960
that you hook right up to your
network. And you can use Skype
directly from that phone. I
think that'll be great.

31:25.120 --> 31:30.720
Considering that the Netherlands
is one of the, except for
Afghanistan, which, you know,

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you don't want to call
Afghanistan. You might want to
smoke it, but you don't want to
call it.

31:35.360 --> 31:42.160
The Netherlands is the most
expensive country to call in the
world. What a racket the KPN has
going on there,

31:42.160 --> 31:47.200
huh? She especially cell phones
and Holland calling them from
outside the country, forget
about it.

31:47.200 --> 31:51.680
It's more than a pound of
minutes. It's almost two bucks a
minute just to call a cell phone

31:51.760 --> 31:58.400
from outside of the country.
Anyway, so the Bitties, a great
interview on coverbill, check it
out

31:58.400 --> 32:05.760
coverbill.com, and you recall
that when CBS evening news came
to interview me in South Beach,

32:05.760 --> 32:15.040
that I set up a little podcast
for the interviewer, Sharon,
Elfonci, and I used the list of

32:15.040 --> 32:18.960
these Bitties. I want to be
famous, which, of course, is
the, you know, I thought about
it, right?

32:18.960 --> 32:23.680
It's the perfect song for the
type of piece that I think
they're going to make. So I
think that

32:23.680 --> 32:27.600
that probably works out just
great for them, but it also
gives the Bitties another boost
and guess what?

32:27.600 --> 32:32.320
CBS is called. They're going to
interview them, too. So I cannot
be more excited. I'm telling you

32:33.280 --> 32:41.280
Grammys, onstage, Leanne, the
girls, it can happen. It may not
take that long.

32:42.160 --> 32:50.160
And a quick pointer to Steve
Garfield's video blog, Steve
Garfield.com, if you've, I don't

32:50.160 --> 32:55.840
think no Steve ever really got
into podcasting. I think he's
kind of, he wants to do video,

32:55.840 --> 33:01.600
and he is attaching video as
enclosures to his RSS feed. So
you can certainly subscribe to
it. I think

33:02.400 --> 33:07.760
most of the iPodos will probably
receive that as well, although
if it gets really popular,

33:07.760 --> 33:11.840
I don't know what's he's going
to do for bandwidth, because
it's a lot, well he's hosting it
on his

33:11.840 --> 33:16.560
dot Mac blog. But it's he's
doing some interesting stuff.
He's basically turning on the
camera,

33:16.560 --> 33:21.040
going places with his wife, and
they're just hanging out and
they're calling it a show, and
you

33:21.040 --> 33:26.080
should check it out. Steve
Garfield test, Steve
Garfield.com. And here's
something cool I got in.

33:27.120 --> 33:30.880
This is the kind of audio
response I like. It's an
interactive one where I actually
have to stay

33:30.880 --> 33:36.720
awake during the comment and
play along. Hello Adam, Stuart
Hunter here. I was really
enjoying your

33:36.800 --> 33:43.200
Miami podcast, especially the
piece where I think you were in
Dave's hotel room, and you were

33:43.200 --> 33:49.680
challenging both Dave and Ron to
recognize some music from the
intro that you played from your
iTunes

33:49.680 --> 33:54.240
playlist. I really enjoyed that.
Especially as I was putting my
hand up saying, oh, I don't
know.

33:55.200 --> 33:59.440
I worked great. Okay. We got to
do that more often then,
perfect. I did think it was a
little

33:59.440 --> 34:05.040
bit unfair, because surely you
were the music man of the 80s
and 90s probably the most

34:05.120 --> 34:10.320
knowledgeable. Of course, the
showmaster always has all the
answers, right? I mean, you
know,

34:10.320 --> 34:14.400
that's come on. Regis Phil did
knows what the answers are in
millionaire.

34:14.400 --> 34:18.640
Person about the music of those
times. So I thought maybe if she
tried to reverse that a little
bit

34:18.640 --> 34:25.120
and challenge you on some
intros. So I've picked a few
little pieces together, and I'm
going to play

34:25.120 --> 34:30.560
them for you now. I'm not going
to give you the answers right
away, because if you don't get
them,

34:30.640 --> 34:35.840
I'm sure you will. I'm sure some
of your listeners will email the
answers. Okay. Oh, great.

34:35.840 --> 34:40.720
This is cool. Okay. And by the
way, I have not listened to the
expressly. I've not listened to

34:42.240 --> 34:47.440
the songs yet. So we're hearing
this for the first time
together. Let's see if we can do
it.

34:48.880 --> 34:50.080
Let's go. Let's hear it.

35:00.960 --> 35:01.920
Oh, shit.

35:08.320 --> 35:14.880
That from an artist who's still
going strong had a big hit in
the UK in the past year. Oh,
shit.

35:17.920 --> 35:21.040
Okay, I give. I don't know that
one. That's the only clue you're
going to get. Thank you.

35:21.040 --> 35:29.200
Here's the next one. That's
Robbie Williams. Isn't that the
kids are all right?

35:30.880 --> 35:35.200
I think that's Robbie Williams.
I think I could be wrong. It was
about to burst into song myself.

35:35.200 --> 35:39.920
Yeah, because I thought it was
coming up. That was the second
one. Here's number three. Okay.

35:39.920 --> 35:43.280
They're not named the band. Oh,
these are 80s. I mean, I'm good
at it.

35:52.000 --> 35:55.200
A visage fade degree. Is that
it?

35:57.520 --> 36:04.240
Yeah, long, long, long, long,
long. I think. Yeah, there we
go. Okay, guys. I think I got
that one.

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Fizzage fade degree. Oh, we
interrupt this test. Yes, dear.

36:12.000 --> 36:20.800
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

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Very quiet. Yeah. I was a
layman. I was a long here and I
had a bus comedy. Okay.

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Okay, you're leaving now? Okay.

36:29.520 --> 36:32.160
Is that she over there that's in
my belt? What are you in here?
Yeah.

36:33.200 --> 36:39.600
Okay, I love you. No, close the
door, please. Don't worry. I'll
hear it. Yeah. I'll hear it. I'm
almost done. Bye.

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We have, okay, bye. Yeah, okay.
Sorry. We now continue with the
test.

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Yeah, that's maybe the easiest
one. Yeah, certainly had a great
gun. They're of an option too.
Yeah.

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To guess what that was more.
This one's a little bit harder.
It's a good bit shorter because
the

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vocals kick in pretty quick.
Okay. So you'll only have a few
seconds here it is.

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Lay all your hands on me. Short
but sweet. Lay all your hands on
me. Did not have too many hands
on me.

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Lay your hands on me. Thank you.
Maybe a bit more difficult.
Trying to think who they were.

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Lay all your hands on me. It's
like your hands on me. Whatever
the hell we ever did it.

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The next one will be very
familiar to anyone from
Australia. So this one should be
fairly easy to guess.

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John Farnam, you're the voice.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom. Yeah, this is good. All
right. I'm feeling a little bit
better about myself.

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Yeah, I felt really shitty. We
get it.

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Yeah, that was easy.

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Oh, a little bit more than 10
seconds worth of that song. So
hopefully I won't get into any
trouble

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from the R.I. Oh, shut up. Of
course you won't. Here's song
number six.

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What the hell is that? I guess
the common thread and the
interest on playing here is that
the

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bands themselves didn't have too
many hits. Yeah, or I don't know
if this one was a hit.

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Is there one? I don't know, but
so.

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Of course, I know the song. It's
74. 75. It's a file track for me
to guess the artist and no

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points on that one, I guess. The
shot.

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Extra points.

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Down. It's a wonderful wonderful
life by, um,

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wonderful wonderful life by, do
I get half the points that don't
I?

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For wonderful life. Maybe it's
by wonderful life, um, the wet
wet wet or something like that.

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This is harder than I thought it
would be, actually.

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Well, there you go, Adam. I hope
you enjoyed the challenge,
though. I did.

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To be honest, I don't think
those intervals will have caused
you any problems whatsoever, but

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so it was fun to play the name
that tune. I hope the listeners
enjoyed it. So

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okay. Much of good night.
Excellent, man. Thank you very
much. I look forward to more of
those.

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Maybe not as long. Maybe you
only do top three or so, but the
stumped the podcast.

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So now there's a, there's a
segment for you on the Daily
Source Code.

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Podcrumbs. Number five is out
with part two of my interview
with singer,

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Sawyer, Robert Birkwan. This is
the second of four parts of our
conversation.

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It also features the song you're
hearing now, Radio Church from
his 2000 CD to this day.

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You can find the show as well as
last week's first part and all
the podcrumbs episodes at our
new home,

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www.podcrumbs.com. No, it also
the feed address has changed and
is now www.podcrumbs.com slash

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wayindex.xml. Thanks for
listening. Okay, seeing that I
only have a couple of minutes
left on today's

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show. I'm not going to be able
to play Robert Birkwan's song,
Junkman. I'm going to move that

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over to tomorrow's show, but of
course you can check out
podcrumbs number five to get all
the latest.

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It's actually a guide that's
some pretty decent tunes because
I did want to leave you with a

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couple of comments that came in
regarding Andy Hertzfeld's
comments on podcasting,

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which we've spoken about. And
well, a lot of people responded
to that. Here's the first one.

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Hey Adam is Jack over at
Boundcast. Andy Hertzfeld. Last
week I set up something with a

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Riley to have him interviewed on
MacRoll that one Wednesday. I go
there. We sit out and right

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before the interview he says,
me, I'm not much on podcasting.
I'm like, well, okay. And

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why would we go on and continue
the interview and get all the
way done and he's a great
interview.

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And then I put it up on the site
last night and the next thing I
know I'm on the train coming
home

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and here's your show and you're
like Andy Hertzfeld, interview.
I'm like, oh, great!

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This is fantastic. And no, it's
the scene at an interview about
how he does like podcasting.

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I'm just blown away by that. So
what can I say? And life's full
of this quirky kind of ironic

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timing. Hi Adam. This is Reed. I
just wanted to say about Andy
Hertzfeld and what he said about

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I have a podcasting. Like I
said, my blog, he's just doesn't
get it. He's a kind of person
who would have

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said back in the early 90s that
the web was completely
unnecessary because HTTP is just
a duplication

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of existing things like FTP.
What do we need to do HTTP for?
Yeah, so don't worry about him.

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Okay, he just got his head up
his ass. Oh, don't say that.
Okay, so that's pretty much the
range of the

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comments and how they went from
left to right and many more in
between. But then, I guess it's
the

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what is it? The Wizards of
Technology? Do they, Mr. Mark
and Digital Bill, I think that's
who they

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are. They, they caught Phil
Schiller, who is, what is he
vice president of Apple? He's
the

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number two guy. I think they
caught him outside McRoll Expo
and they got his comments on
podcasting.

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Oh, wait a minute, wait a
minute. That was funny. Mark has
got so nervous. They started
falling

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all over himself. Let's listen
to that one more time. I don't
mean to laugh, but I'm noticing
that

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now for the first time. It's all
right. I sound drunk on my
shows. Here, let's try that
again.

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And listen to him fucking
blowing. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I
got to go. I've got much, much
more

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to do over here. You know, I got
no time to talk to you a little,
this is it, guys. You know,

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if you want to, if you want to
get these guys, you want to have
them look at you

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serious, you got to trick them.
And you need to have a
microphone that has a mic cue on
it.

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You know, it needs a mic cue, so
you look official. And it could
say anything on there. As long

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as it's a cue that fits up that
mic, baby, that's one thing to
say, oh, wait a minute, that's

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some, and maybe a big
windscreen, you know, with your
logo on it as well. That is
guaranteed

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to not get that response. Oh,
I'm sorry. I've got to run,
guys. I've got to get run. I'm
full

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of shit. I'm hurt. I broke it.
I'm right. I'm believable. He
talks just like he does when

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he's doing those keynotes when
he's on stage. I think it's
really cool technology. I think

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I'm really happy a lot of people
are trying out. This is really
wonderful. Where's your

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mic cue? I can't see your
windscreen. Are you really an
official broadcaster? He sounds
like

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a freaking robot. A fun way to
get more programming on your
iPod. Interesting. Interesting.

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A fun way to get more
programming, more programming on
your iPod. That's a lot in
there, I

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feel. Oh, yes.

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That's it for the source code
for today, January 17th. As
always, you can leave us a
comment

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at umadcurry.com or on the
weblogcurry.com. Okay, tomorrow.
What's we do tomorrow?

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They can talk a little about
South Beach. Some of the things
that we discussed, of course,

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you couldn't imagine most of the
things we're thinking about are
they commercial nature.

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And I'm also going to think
about working on that podcast
feed of all the different clips
I've

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done. I quite sure I want to put
that together. Oh, and of
course, before I upload this
show,

45:40.720 --> 45:45.920
I'm totally going to see you
sound seeing.com today. So by
the time you hear this show,

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you'll be registered to me. I
hope. All right, everybody.
Thank you very much for sending
in your

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comments. Keep it coming. And
tomorrow, I'm another dating
source code. Who knows? Maybe
with some

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broadband if those BT engineers
can find it in their hearts to
connect the last 15 meters from

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the curb to the house. Take
care, everybody. I'll see you
tomorrow. Bye, bye.
