WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:11.000 Daily source code 123 2005, what do I do? Do I press pound or what? Is this thing on? 00:11.000 --> 00:18.000 On ground casting with Adam Curry. Hey everybody, it's a special weekend source code. 00:19.000 --> 00:28.000 Right on, sitting up here in the lovely office at Curry Cottage. Hi everybody, it is Sunday. 00:28.000 --> 00:32.000 It's late afternoon. Actually it's almost the evening. It's a 615. 00:32.000 --> 00:37.000 As promised, in lieu of Friday show, this is the weekend source code. 00:37.000 --> 00:45.000 Well, good news is, got back from Amsterdam. 00:45.000 --> 00:49.000 And the bandwidth was still here. 00:49.000 --> 00:55.000 So this is going to be kind of a little mellow show today. 00:55.000 --> 00:59.000 Since, well, I haven't really prepared much. I think we just listened to a couple things. 00:59.000 --> 01:04.000 But, you know, every once in a while when I come across an MP3 or a podcast or something that I like. 01:04.000 --> 01:13.000 I drop it into a folder on my desktop. And then when I get ready to do a source code, then I just tell my application here. 01:13.000 --> 01:16.000 My production suite to go scan through all the new files. 01:16.000 --> 01:21.000 And it pulls out all the ID3 tags and makes a little shortcut in my outline. 01:21.000 --> 01:25.000 But I can then copy and paste into a rundown. 01:25.000 --> 01:28.000 Like, you care how I do that, right? 01:28.000 --> 01:33.000 Anyway, so I hadn't really organized any stuff specifically to play today. 01:33.000 --> 01:37.000 But I found a few things. I've been playing around with Net Newswire. 01:37.000 --> 01:41.000 As, you know, I try to get my hands on everything eye-patter. 01:41.000 --> 01:44.000 Everything that looks, smells, feels like an eye-patter. 01:44.000 --> 01:47.000 And I'm actually in the throes of ordering a Windows machine. 01:47.000 --> 01:52.000 Specifically to check out a couple of eye-patter's that just won't run on a Mac and thought. 01:53.000 --> 02:02.000 So, playing around with Net Newswire, which I have to say, does eye-potting extremely well? 02:02.000 --> 02:07.000 Yeah, it doesn't have the vacation feature, any of those things. 02:07.000 --> 02:10.000 But it does do multiple concurrent downloads. 02:10.000 --> 02:14.000 But downloads, I think it's default setting is for eight files at once. 02:14.000 --> 02:19.000 Well, with a pipe that I've got now, I didn't even notice that it was downloading all these shows all over again. 02:19.000 --> 02:21.000 So that wasn't too bad. 02:21.000 --> 02:27.000 I-patter, the Lemon Edition apparently has come out with their beta. 02:27.000 --> 02:31.000 There are two-point-o-beta-one. 02:31.000 --> 02:35.000 I couldn't get it to run on my Mac. I submitted a bug report. 02:35.000 --> 02:40.000 Something with, I looked at the console log, something about, I don't know if there's some error that's wrong. 02:40.000 --> 02:42.000 But, of course, it's beta, so that's what it's supposed to do, right? 02:42.000 --> 02:46.000 So, you're supposed to be reporting errors and helping the development team out. 02:46.000 --> 02:49.000 Looks pretty good though, the screenshots are beautiful. 02:49.000 --> 02:57.000 I've really- I started to notice that there's really two main approaches to iPodders. 02:57.000 --> 03:03.000 And I guess the thing that- it really tip me off when I was looking at Net Newswire, like, wait a minute. 03:03.000 --> 03:06.000 This is- this has a whole bunch of features that I really like. 03:06.000 --> 03:10.000 And of course, that's an aggregator. It's been an aggregator since day one. 03:10.000 --> 03:18.000 And it does a really good job with just aggregating and, you know, putting stuff away, downloading special times, filtering through 03:18.000 --> 03:24.000 different types of fields. I mean, it really does have a lot of excellent options and rules settings. 03:24.000 --> 03:29.000 And yeah, it's a Swiss Army knife of Macintosh aggregators. 03:29.000 --> 03:31.000 Although, I do not like the three- pane approach. 03:31.000 --> 03:35.000 I hate having an indicator. That's what I don't like about Net Newswire. 03:35.000 --> 03:41.000 Now, there's an indicator in my- in my doc that says that, you know, has a little satellite icon for Net Newswire. 03:41.000 --> 03:47.000 And it says, it has a three on it right now, meaning that there's three new pieces of information. 03:47.000 --> 03:50.000 Now, I know that I'm only subscribed to podcasts and Net Newswire. 03:50.000 --> 03:53.000 So the place I go to look for new shows is in iTunes. 03:53.000 --> 03:58.000 And that's where it kind of came through, and it's like, well, wait a minute. 03:58.000 --> 04:03.000 There are also some iPodder developments out there that are focusing from the player side. 04:03.000 --> 04:07.000 iPodder X, by the way, I think, is looking a lot more at the player, although, 04:07.000 --> 04:11.000 I think they're pretty much using all the quick time components. 04:11.000 --> 04:16.000 But really, a combination of the two is what seems to be like the sweet spot. 04:16.000 --> 04:22.000 And I don't know if anyone's quite hit it yet, but maybe on some of the windows version that just haven't had a chance to check out. 04:22.000 --> 04:28.000 So definitely looking forward to seeing some of those new windows things as well. 04:28.000 --> 04:31.000 But Net Newswire, I'm going to try it out for a little bit more. 04:31.000 --> 04:36.000 And I believe that there's also an iPodder X, 2.0 beta on the way. 04:36.000 --> 04:43.000 So I'm excited. This is the second round of iPodder development of the first two big teams. 04:43.000 --> 04:47.000 So let's see what we've learned. I am really, really excited about this. 04:47.000 --> 04:51.000 Let's see, Sunday afternoon, early evening. 04:51.000 --> 04:54.000 It is, by the way, the 23rd of January 2005. 04:54.000 --> 05:00.000 For the first time in a long time, I looked at my calendar, and it was absolutely nothing in it for the coming week, 05:00.000 --> 05:08.000 although now it's filling up with the phone interviews and a couple of people want to do a photo shoot. 05:08.000 --> 05:12.000 Particularly now, because, well, the hair is ruined, right? 05:12.000 --> 05:18.000 And notice by the way that I haven't posted any pictures of that, there is good reason my friends believe me. 05:18.000 --> 05:25.000 And in the mail, I received, while I was an Amsterdam, I received two CDs from Dynamo's River Maces. 05:25.000 --> 05:29.000 You remember we talked about them, also played a track or two. 05:29.000 --> 05:31.000 So I actually got this from one of the band members. 05:31.000 --> 05:38.000 And I will put a link once again to their site in the production show notes for today's show. 05:38.000 --> 05:41.000 But now I have real good quality recordings. This is great stuff. 05:41.000 --> 05:46.000 Hold on, let me just get the, let me get them hot. 05:46.000 --> 05:49.000 There we go. 05:49.000 --> 05:52.000 Oh, shit. 05:52.000 --> 05:58.000 Okay, this is Dynamo's River Maces. This one is, I'm not saying, I'm just saying. 05:58.000 --> 06:02.000 Okay, but basically they do all these great versions of classic songs. 06:02.000 --> 06:07.000 Like, addicted to love dancing in the street, hit me with your rhythm stick. 06:07.000 --> 06:16.000 Born to run, see what a jump, ace of spades, hajo, my generation. 06:16.000 --> 06:23.000 So all pod safe music and obviously stuff that we'll be playing for, well, I think about 24 tracks there. 06:23.000 --> 06:27.000 I can play a lot of this on the source code for the next coming shows. 06:27.000 --> 06:30.000 And every single one is a hit, done just a little bit differently. 06:30.000 --> 06:31.000 I think you'll like it. 06:31.000 --> 06:35.000 This is a classic by Queen brought to you my Dynamo's River Maces. 06:35.000 --> 06:40.000 Tonight, well, I'm going to have myself a real good sign. 06:40.000 --> 06:43.000 Because I feel alive, man. I feel alive. 06:43.000 --> 06:45.000 Like, I can take the world. 06:45.000 --> 06:51.000 I'm just turning inside out, baby, and floating around in ecstasy. 06:51.000 --> 06:54.000 So don't stop me now. 06:54.000 --> 06:56.000 Don't stop me, man. 06:56.000 --> 07:00.000 Because I'm having a good sign, I'm having a good sign. 07:00.000 --> 08:23.750 [ Music ] 08:24.000 --> 08:26.000 I don't want to stop at all. 08:26.000 --> 08:28.000 So don't stop me. 08:31.250 --> 09:08.000 [ Music ] 09:08.000 --> 09:10.000 Man, I'm like a refugee. 09:10.000 --> 09:12.000 But don't wait a month. 09:12.000 --> 09:13.000 I'm a collision cause. 09:13.000 --> 09:14.000 I'm like a satellite. 09:14.000 --> 09:16.000 You've got an out of control. 09:16.000 --> 09:17.000 I'm a refugee. 09:17.000 --> 09:18.000 Ready to do reload. 09:18.000 --> 09:19.000 Not good at bomb. 09:19.000 --> 09:23.000 I got a, got a, got a, got a man who got his vote. 09:23.000 --> 10:12.500 [ Music ] 10:12.500 --> 10:16.500 It's not me, it's not me, it's not me, it's not me, it's not me 10:18.500 --> 10:22.500 Bloody record, the usual city 10:24.500 --> 10:27.500 First time I heard that it did freak me out. I was like oh shit, something stuck 10:28.500 --> 10:33.500 There was a future tense that came through the other aperture through that out shit. That was stupid 10:33.500 --> 10:40.500 There was a future tense that I was talking about the record scratch and that even though the record scratch that 10:40.500 --> 10:49.500 That's you know a needle being dragged off of a record even though that's one of the most used sound effects in advertising today 10:50.500 --> 10:52.500 Seeing if I still have it somewhere here 10:56.500 --> 11:02.500 They did a survey and they asked a whole bunch of kids if they knew what that sound was they went 11:03.500 --> 11:08.500 Yeah, that's from the commercial they had never heard of it actually scratching on a record 11:08.500 --> 11:10.500 Let me see if I have that it was 11:10.500 --> 11:12.500 I bet you don't have that anymore shoot 11:14.500 --> 11:18.500 Future tense. Oh, maybe this is it. Hold on. It'll be great if I still had that one. Let's check it out first 11:18.500 --> 11:23.500 Libraries get hip to really simple syndication. No, this is future 11:23.500 --> 11:25.500 That wasn't that shoot 11:25.500 --> 11:29.500 Shoot, let me just check iTunes for a second. I bet you I tossed that out 11:29.500 --> 11:33.500 Okay, I'm probably get the yeah now it's gone darn 11:33.500 --> 11:35.500 That would have been great to play for you right now 11:36.500 --> 11:42.500 It was on the media anyway. I'll look it up for you. Okay, it was it was a podcast. That's for sure 11:42.500 --> 11:48.500 That I do remember here's something that came across I think open podcast.org it showed up in my iTunes 11:48.500 --> 11:55.500 And it's almost like poetry, but it was pretty good. It's about it's called Dead TV 11:55.500 --> 11:58.500 It's done by Jenny Gillespie Gillespie 11:59.500 --> 12:07.500 It speaks it speaks for itself. Let's sit back and chill. It's about two and a half minutes, but you won't want to fast forward because it's it's good 12:08.500 --> 12:17.500 Life TV is an even live TV. It's so dead to me. So orchestrated so seamlessly so perfectly. I'm telling you it's dead TV 12:17.500 --> 12:24.500 Our perfect people they brush their teeth before they go on the air someone somewhere counts down from five to one 12:24.500 --> 12:31.500 Making their colgate smile shine on like the sun and over their paper props and coffee mugs painted a stylish navy blue 12:31.500 --> 12:40.500 They deliver us the news with delicate creases and their dry clean sports jackets and their neat little bundles of free striped telecast packets 12:40.500 --> 12:48.500 They have appropriate faces and tones for all their heart wrenching recitals with a rather catchy title that rhymes of course 12:49.500 --> 12:57.500 About some golden retriever dancing for the sick kids that we who and we are over because you know that stories vital 12:57.500 --> 13:07.500 But not so urgent so meaningful so necessary that we can't lay our heads down on our pillows and sleep that night leaving behind us the senses sympathy 13:07.500 --> 13:12.500 We like to portray to star new day where no one else matters but ourselves 13:13.500 --> 13:18.500 But those people from the news God damn they have it's so great 13:18.500 --> 13:23.500 They're everyone super hero everyone's best friend our favorite face on our cable access station 13:23.500 --> 13:28.500 They're so trustworthy so reliable. They have that that chronic dedication 13:28.500 --> 13:33.500 They have the stuff that it takes to relate 45 minutes worth of truth and nothing but 13:33.500 --> 13:40.500 Okay, maybe there's a bud there's you know societies buy a certain in there to spice it up a bit 13:41.500 --> 13:47.500 But I mean they have plastic hair like burvey dolls and spray paint and make up it's fucking impenetrable 13:47.500 --> 13:55.500 So what's the new fat in the news today politics or politics and when it comes down to it we could care less really 13:55.500 --> 14:03.500 We want a generic black man with a sought off shotgun running rampant and someone else is suburban streets killing him some 14:04.500 --> 14:10.500 Blonde hair blue eyed chair leaders so sweet. We want the story. We want it concrete 14:10.500 --> 14:15.500 Who cares about the sources or if the you know facts are incomplete? 14:15.500 --> 14:24.500 We'll put it on repeat on every fucking channel until everyone from the Pope to your grandmother wants to donate just 50 cents to the cause 14:24.500 --> 14:32.500 So the informed public will raise you up in a plus the thank you being a great aid citizen 14:34.500 --> 14:36.500 That's simply just a perp 14:36.500 --> 14:40.500 Great stuff, huh? Yeah, first time I heard that I was like wow 14:40.500 --> 14:46.500 That's good Jenny Gillespie don't know anything about her. I presume she wrote it herself 14:46.500 --> 14:49.500 But don't like that very much when I heard it 14:49.500 --> 14:54.500 A lot of people pointed me towards this podcast from what is it? 14:54.500 --> 14:57.500 This show has no name is the name of the podcast 14:58.500 --> 15:01.500 I pointed to it in the production show notes 15:01.500 --> 15:05.500 It's got a home page stop macadress 15:05.500 --> 15:08.500 So it shouldn't be a problem if you want to download the show 15:08.500 --> 15:14.500 Because I know that sometimes when I mention someone's podcast and we get it like a little mini slash dot effect 15:14.500 --> 15:17.500 Not that there's so many people that I'm sending over your way, but 15:17.500 --> 15:20.500 Because the files are so big 15:21.500 --> 15:26.500 Anyway, I listened to it and I was like wow, you know 15:26.500 --> 15:31.500 Here's a guy who listens to the daily source code every single day and a second tired of me 15:31.500 --> 15:34.500 Finally, I'm sure there's more out there 15:34.500 --> 15:38.500 But he put it in a podcast something I totally, totally appreciate 15:38.500 --> 15:43.500 And I thought we'd listen to it together because there's some interesting things in here that I'm sure other people are thinking 15:43.500 --> 15:47.500 They're maybe a few misconceptions and some things, I think he's probably right about 15:47.500 --> 15:52.500 A couple of the things I want to talk about is that I want to make it official now that I'm pretty much sick of Adam Curry 15:52.500 --> 15:56.500 Okay, I'm glad you made that official, that's a good start 15:56.500 --> 16:01.500 I'm sick of him in general, I'm sick of his podcast 16:01.500 --> 16:05.500 Even though I listen to it all the time and I'm relatively addicted to it 16:05.500 --> 16:08.500 And there's some couple things that I'm really bothered by 16:08.500 --> 16:12.500 And mainly because, you know, everybody's pretty nice 16:12.500 --> 16:17.500 And he seems like a nice guy, but it's really his podcast, it's kind of bothered me more than anything 16:17.500 --> 16:22.500 Okay, I've seen like a nice guy only when I'm podcasting, which is the only way he knows me 16:22.500 --> 16:24.500 That's not starting to bother me 16:24.500 --> 16:28.500 And it's just that not that I want to be sour grapes or anything 16:28.500 --> 16:33.500 But you know what, drum cadence suck 16:33.500 --> 16:35.500 Okay, let me just put that out there 16:35.500 --> 16:37.500 There was maybe one or two that was pretty good 16:37.500 --> 16:41.500 I understand that he's having a hard time because you can't get any good RIA 16:42.500 --> 16:48.500 No, no, that's not true. No, I'm receiving more drum cadences than any other music period 16:48.500 --> 16:50.500 That's why I think playing so much of it 16:50.500 --> 16:54.500 Actually, I haven't played a lot in the past week and a half to be free music and that's running 16:54.500 --> 16:58.500 But the drum kids, just they just got to go 16:58.500 --> 17:01.500 I mean, really, you know 17:01.500 --> 17:06.500 Dude, fast forward, that's all, he'll show you how it works 17:06.500 --> 17:08.500 So the 10 that's a drum case 17:08.500 --> 17:10.500 That's not that cool, I'm sorry 17:10.500 --> 17:13.500 I found myself just skipping through the whole thing 17:13.500 --> 17:15.500 Right, this thing is just that 17:15.500 --> 17:18.500 You know, I'm so sick of those serious bitties 17:18.500 --> 17:20.500 Maybe he's got some sort of a financial thing 17:20.500 --> 17:22.500 He keeps saying that he is a businessman 17:22.500 --> 17:26.500 And I think that people keep forgetting that in their days 17:26.500 --> 17:28.500 Oh, hold on a second, hold on a second 17:28.500 --> 17:35.500 First of all, I have absolutely no financial arrangement or any type of deal 17:35.500 --> 17:38.500 whatsoever with any of the list of his bitties 17:38.500 --> 17:42.500 Except they have promised me a big hug when we meet up in New York 17:42.500 --> 17:44.500 That they have promised 17:44.500 --> 17:46.500 Because believe me, dude 17:46.500 --> 17:49.500 I think that's something I would have to disclose 17:49.500 --> 17:51.500 Right, like tell you about 17:51.500 --> 17:55.500 Believe me, I would tell you if I had any financial gain 17:55.500 --> 17:57.500 But yes, I am a businessman, absolutely 17:57.500 --> 18:00.500 And I love it when I see people who are already doing business 18:00.500 --> 18:02.500 Like those serious bitties 18:02.500 --> 18:05.500 Do more business because of something really simple 18:05.500 --> 18:08.500 Mainly people who like their music or play in their music and podcast 18:08.500 --> 18:10.500 So I see that as a good thing 18:10.500 --> 18:14.500 That's a ties by the fact that he's going to find a way to make money 18:14.500 --> 18:16.500 Either this podcast and thing 18:16.500 --> 18:19.500 He's going to milk it for his good 18:19.500 --> 18:20.500 Oh, all right, okay 18:20.500 --> 18:23.500 And you know what that's probably what they said 18:23.500 --> 18:25.500 Well, okay, yes, of course 18:25.500 --> 18:28.500 Of course, I'm going to milk it to death, damn it 18:28.500 --> 18:30.500 Oh, wow 18:31.500 --> 18:33.500 If you know how 18:33.500 --> 18:37.500 Please put that in your podcast so I can start milking 18:37.500 --> 18:40.500 And I think that's something that people should be very aware of 18:40.500 --> 18:43.500 And understand that the reason he's so pumped about this 18:43.500 --> 18:46.500 Because he sees a monetary opportunity there 18:46.500 --> 18:48.500 Okay, first of all 18:48.500 --> 18:51.500 The reason this all got started was out of frustration 18:51.500 --> 18:55.500 Because I wanted to get pod cat or MP3 files onto my iPod 18:55.500 --> 18:57.500 It was no absolutely no fine 18:57.500 --> 19:00.500 In fact, I tried to pay people to do that for me 19:00.500 --> 19:03.500 But I have to admit 19:03.500 --> 19:06.500 That there's totally 19:06.500 --> 19:10.500 A lot of interest from the business community 19:10.500 --> 19:12.500 From the financial community 19:12.500 --> 19:15.500 A lot of people are saying, hey, how can we monetize this 19:15.500 --> 19:17.500 Am I looking, of course I'm looking 19:17.500 --> 19:19.500 To have ideas, of course I have ideas 19:19.500 --> 19:21.500 Of course I do, is that wrong? 19:22.500 --> 19:23.500 Apparently 19:23.500 --> 19:25.500 It's reminds me so much of 19:25.500 --> 19:27.500 When I started out 19:27.500 --> 19:30.500 With something I called cyber sleeves 19:30.500 --> 19:33.500 And I was promoting that on my radio shows 19:33.500 --> 19:36.500 And it's actually this was before mtv.com 19:36.500 --> 19:39.500 And I remember that all the, not all 19:39.500 --> 19:42.500 But the, the quote community at the time 19:42.500 --> 19:45.500 Was very against the commercial internet 19:45.500 --> 19:48.500 It was like, you know, commercial was bad 19:48.500 --> 19:49.500 It's not going to happen 19:49.500 --> 19:52.500 It's going to fight against it, will hack you to death 19:52.500 --> 19:54.500 It sounds like the same thing, you know 19:54.500 --> 19:56.500 It's like, of course someone's going to 19:56.500 --> 19:58.500 Commercialize parts of pod casting 19:58.500 --> 20:01.500 I heard someone say, I don't know where it was 20:01.500 --> 20:04.500 I think it was maybe it was a pod cat 20:04.500 --> 20:06.500 I'm thinking, I'm going to say pod cast brothers 20:06.500 --> 20:09.500 Because it was a brilliant analogy 20:09.500 --> 20:11.500 That whenever there's a, there's a gold rush 20:11.500 --> 20:13.500 The people who always make the money 20:13.500 --> 20:14.500 Are the outfitters 20:14.500 --> 20:16.500 So that's the people who supply the horses 20:16.500 --> 20:18.500 The wagons, the donkeys 20:19.500 --> 20:22.500 The shovels, the spades, you know, the tents 20:22.500 --> 20:24.500 Whatever, of course 20:24.500 --> 20:28.500 And we really don't have a pod casting service 20:28.500 --> 20:30.500 Yeah, do we, this is one of the things of course 20:30.500 --> 20:32.500 That we've been looking at 20:32.500 --> 20:34.500 And what does that entail? 20:34.500 --> 20:36.500 I think the number one place to make money right now 20:36.500 --> 20:39.500 Is helping people make pod casts 20:39.500 --> 20:41.500 I don't think there's a lot of people making money 20:41.500 --> 20:43.500 On their pod casts right now 20:43.500 --> 20:45.500 Nor is it clear if they will 20:45.500 --> 20:47.500 I got some ideas 20:48.500 --> 20:50.500 But yeah, of course I'm looking at ways to make money 20:50.500 --> 20:51.500 But I'm not hiding that 20:51.500 --> 20:54.500 I'm not doing the source code 20:54.500 --> 20:56.500 Because I have some genius plan 20:56.500 --> 20:58.500 That's going to make me billions of dollars 20:58.500 --> 21:00.500 Through that show alone 21:00.500 --> 21:01.500 I like doing it dude 21:01.500 --> 21:03.500 And don't be lulled 21:03.500 --> 21:05.500 Into thinking that this guy 21:05.500 --> 21:06.500 Who is now 21:06.500 --> 21:08.500 God, I've seen it now on 21:08.500 --> 21:09.500 In a macadic magazine 21:09.500 --> 21:11.500 I've seen it in New York Times 21:11.500 --> 21:12.500 I've seen it on ABC 21:12.500 --> 21:14.500 I've seen it everywhere 21:14.500 --> 21:16.500 Because they all call me up 21:16.500 --> 21:18.500 And ask me for interviews 21:18.500 --> 21:21.500 It actually takes a lot of time 21:21.500 --> 21:24.500 And I don't have an actual job at the moment 21:24.500 --> 21:26.500 We'll talk about that in a second 21:26.500 --> 21:27.500 I'm sure 21:27.500 --> 21:29.500 So I could make time 21:29.500 --> 21:31.500 Which I think is also help 21:31.500 --> 21:33.500 Propel pod casting 21:33.500 --> 21:35.500 For good or for bad 21:35.500 --> 21:38.500 He's going to make money off of this 21:38.500 --> 21:40.500 Oh, I can't wait 21:40.500 --> 21:43.500 And you and me are probably not going to do that 21:44.500 --> 21:47.500 You and me presuming me the listener 21:47.500 --> 21:48.500 The way to me 21:48.500 --> 21:49.500 You just told me I was 21:49.500 --> 21:50.500 But as a listener, I'm not 21:50.500 --> 21:53.500 Mainly because we're probably a really well-versed 21:53.500 --> 21:55.500 And making money off of something like this 21:55.500 --> 21:59.500 Dude, I've never made money off of anything like this 21:59.500 --> 22:01.500 Let me tell you how I made my money 22:01.500 --> 22:02.500 Okay 22:02.500 --> 22:03.500 I might be good 22:03.500 --> 22:04.500 I started 22:04.500 --> 22:06.500 Actually, it did start a content company 22:06.500 --> 22:08.500 Called OnRamp 22:08.500 --> 22:11.500 And we had actually Metaverse.com 22:11.500 --> 22:13.500 And we had cyber sleeves 22:13.500 --> 22:15.500 And we had a whole bunch of cool sites 22:15.500 --> 22:18.500 This is around the time that addicted to noise 22:18.500 --> 22:19.500 It was also a 22:19.500 --> 22:21.500 Some of you might remember that website 22:21.500 --> 22:23.500 That was purchased later by MTV 22:23.500 --> 22:27.500 And we were making content for 22:27.500 --> 22:29.500 Re-box for Budweiser 22:29.500 --> 22:31.500 For continental airlines 22:31.500 --> 22:33.500 For Procter and Gamble 22:33.500 --> 22:36.500 Hey, we did tampax.com 22:36.500 --> 22:42.500 The website you'll want to visit more than once a month 22:42.500 --> 22:44.500 We haven't fun 22:44.500 --> 22:47.500 And we just started going more and more into the service side of stuff 22:47.500 --> 22:50.500 She's going to be providing services for companies 22:50.500 --> 22:53.500 At the time when you could charge $40,000 22:53.500 --> 22:55.500 For what I knew eventually 22:55.500 --> 22:58.500 And what now are indeed tools that cost $40 22:58.500 --> 23:01.500 And so we did a good job 23:01.500 --> 23:03.500 We worked really hard for about five years 23:03.500 --> 23:05.500 And we sold the company in 1999 23:05.500 --> 23:07.500 Always made a profit 23:07.500 --> 23:09.500 At the end of our tenure 23:09.500 --> 23:11.500 There I say ours, my partner Ron 23:11.500 --> 23:15.500 We had a pay roll of $65 million 23:15.500 --> 23:17.500 And we always made pay roll 23:17.500 --> 23:19.500 And we were profitable and we had 23:19.500 --> 23:21.500 Happy clients 23:21.500 --> 23:23.500 And we did good work 23:23.500 --> 23:25.500 We were advertising agency basically 23:25.500 --> 23:27.500 And I made money on that 23:27.500 --> 23:31.500 But the real money I made came from lucky investments 23:31.500 --> 23:33.500 And the real money I lost by the way 23:33.500 --> 23:35.500 I also lost a lot of money came from unlucky investments 23:35.500 --> 23:37.500 But that's his goal 23:37.500 --> 23:38.500 And I think... 23:38.500 --> 23:41.500 No, no, sorry, that's so my goal is not to make money 23:41.500 --> 23:42.500 My goal is to... 23:42.500 --> 23:45.500 Well, to have fun doing whatever I'm doing 23:45.500 --> 23:47.500 And if possible 23:47.500 --> 23:49.500 Make the world a better place while we do it 23:49.500 --> 23:51.500 And fuck yeah, I'd like to get paid 23:51.500 --> 23:52.500 Doesn't everybody? 23:52.500 --> 23:55.500 I mean, everyone has bandwidth bills 23:55.500 --> 23:59.500 Has, you know, your time is worth something 23:59.500 --> 24:02.500 And either you say this is 100% hobby for me 24:02.500 --> 24:04.500 Or you say, hey, I'm going to try and make something out of this 24:04.500 --> 24:05.500 Not in wrong with that 24:05.500 --> 24:06.500 Yeah, as much as he would like to be 24:06.500 --> 24:08.500 Befriending all these other people 24:08.500 --> 24:10.500 Well, no, I am actually befriending people 24:10.500 --> 24:12.500 Because I make friends pretty easily 24:12.500 --> 24:14.500 And I would pretty good track record with friends 24:14.500 --> 24:16.500 You can look it up dude 24:16.500 --> 24:18.500 And whether it's he wants to be the little 24:18.500 --> 24:20.500 Sivius Bitties Manager or whatever that 24:20.500 --> 24:21.500 I don't... 24:21.500 --> 24:22.500 I wish, God damn 24:22.500 --> 24:24.500 I'd love to be their manager 24:24.500 --> 24:27.500 Hmm, I think they have that all sold up 24:27.500 --> 24:29.500 I actually, I was talking to Leon 24:30.500 --> 24:32.500 I've got you such an angelic voice 24:32.500 --> 24:35.500 Even on the phone she sounds so, so pretty 24:35.500 --> 24:40.500 And she was telling me about, oh, we just shoot in the shit actually 24:40.500 --> 24:45.500 And I said, well, you know, because they were interviewed by CBS 24:45.500 --> 24:47.500 For the CV, I don't know when this piece is going to air 24:47.500 --> 24:49.500 But it should be reasonably soon, I guess 24:49.500 --> 24:51.500 And I was so happy for it 24:51.500 --> 24:54.500 And I said, you know, you're going to get calls pretty soon 24:54.500 --> 24:58.500 And stuff's going to happen, she said, oh, we, you know, we have had such a luxury over 24:58.500 --> 25:00.500 They've been doing it for like seven or eight years 25:00.500 --> 25:02.500 They really have all their finances, their legal stuff 25:02.500 --> 25:05.500 It's all, I mean, not that they have a lot of finances 25:05.500 --> 25:07.500 But it's, they have that all set 25:07.500 --> 25:09.500 And I said, anything you need, let me know 25:09.500 --> 25:11.500 Dude, of course I'd like to be their manager 25:11.500 --> 25:13.500 But that's not why I'm playing their songs 25:13.500 --> 25:15.500 Because I'd like their songs, that's why 25:15.500 --> 25:18.500 But I think that that's something that is 25:18.500 --> 25:20.500 Is true in call speed of speed 25:20.500 --> 25:21.500 You know, and any... 25:21.500 --> 25:23.500 You know, he's, he's alluded to that 25:23.500 --> 25:25.500 He said, you know, hey, he's a businessman 25:25.500 --> 25:27.500 He's the most big money, there's nothing wrong with that 25:27.500 --> 25:30.500 But don't be low than the thinking that 25:30.500 --> 25:34.500 He's just this super nice guy that's just trying to 25:34.500 --> 25:36.500 Really help everybody out 25:36.500 --> 25:38.500 Yeah, I actually believe it or not 25:38.500 --> 25:41.500 I mean, I'd be a super nice guy 25:41.500 --> 25:43.500 But I do like to help everybody out 25:43.500 --> 25:46.500 And I think that by helping each other 25:46.500 --> 25:48.500 We'll be able to figure some stuff out 25:48.500 --> 25:51.500 And actually maybe, you know, work together on some things 25:51.500 --> 25:55.500 That could be fun to work on or could generate revenue together 25:55.500 --> 25:57.500 Or kinds of stuff, but I'm not like 25:57.500 --> 25:59.500 Something like job and life to go around 25:59.500 --> 26:01.500 You know, sucking up to people 26:01.500 --> 26:03.500 And getting to be my friends 26:03.500 --> 26:05.500 And then go make money off of them 26:05.500 --> 26:07.500 Which of course we haven't established exactly how to do that 26:07.500 --> 26:09.500 I think in a lot of ways you may be 26:09.500 --> 26:11.500 But I think in the back of his money he's going to say 26:11.500 --> 26:12.500 You know what? 26:12.500 --> 26:13.500 I kind of think money at this 26:13.500 --> 26:16.500 I mean, just look at the sound scene thing 26:16.500 --> 26:17.500 Hey, baby 26:17.500 --> 26:18.500 Hey 26:18.500 --> 26:19.500 I'm doing a podcast 26:21.500 --> 26:22.500 New? 26:22.500 --> 26:23.500 Umm Hmm 26:23.500 --> 26:25.500 How much time would I have? 26:25.500 --> 26:26.500 Are you ready right now? 26:26.500 --> 26:27.500 Okay, what should I do? 26:27.500 --> 26:29.500 So till the audience, or I've put them on paws 26:29.500 --> 26:32.500 Or should I put its good stuff right now? 26:32.500 --> 26:34.500 Should I put the audience on paws? 26:34.500 --> 26:35.500 Yeah 26:35.500 --> 26:37.500 Alright everybody, you're going on paws 26:37.500 --> 26:38.500 I'm going to have dinner 26:38.500 --> 26:40.500 Come back and we'll continue 26:40.500 --> 26:41.500 Do do do want 26:41.500 --> 26:45.500 Right, okay 26:45.500 --> 26:47.500 So I'm back 26:47.500 --> 26:52.500 That was two and a half hours ago that we last spoke. 26:52.500 --> 26:54.500 Okay. 26:54.500 --> 26:55.500 You get the fast forward. 26:55.500 --> 26:57.500 I get to hit the pause button once in a while. 26:57.500 --> 27:01.500 And actually it's pretty good because I was thinking, 27:01.500 --> 27:05.500 but after dinner, Patricia and I were watching, 27:05.500 --> 27:08.500 we were watching, and Tiggs Roadshow. 27:08.500 --> 27:10.500 Love that show. 27:10.500 --> 27:14.500 Of course, it's not really about the antiques or the objects that they display. 27:14.500 --> 27:15.500 It's what's worth. 27:15.500 --> 27:16.500 That's the game, right? 27:16.500 --> 27:17.500 Okay. 27:17.500 --> 27:19.500 I think that's going to be worth about, 27:19.500 --> 27:21.500 and probably about 3,400, 27:21.500 --> 27:25.500 and then once when you get the 10,000 pound valuable item, 27:25.500 --> 27:27.500 whatever. 27:27.500 --> 27:31.500 And then Patricia Files sleep, so I went to clean up the kitchen. 27:31.500 --> 27:36.500 And I was thinking about the comment about the Sylvia's Bitties. 27:36.500 --> 27:41.500 And I was thinking, you know, what is it that I like so much? 27:41.500 --> 27:52.500 And I thought back to the early 80s when I was just really getting into top 40 radio. 27:52.500 --> 27:56.500 It was, you know, there was still an opportunity back then to actually play a song that you thought, 27:56.500 --> 28:01.500 and I think it was like once an hour in most formats that that I worked with, 28:01.500 --> 28:02.500 at most radio stations. 28:02.500 --> 28:06.500 Not really in the, yeah, it was very early 80s. 28:06.500 --> 28:09.500 At least had one song an hour that you could kind of, you know, 28:09.500 --> 28:12.500 fuzzle around or legally play as one of your own picks. 28:12.500 --> 28:14.500 And before that, you know, we used to just, you know, 28:14.500 --> 28:16.500 bring whatever, whatever the hell we wanted to play, 28:16.500 --> 28:21.500 but of course those weren't very commercially successful radio stations, 28:21.500 --> 28:23.500 which will tell you a lot about, you know, 28:23.500 --> 28:26.500 what needs to be done to become commercially successful. 28:26.500 --> 28:30.500 But, and it could be anything, particularly in Holland, 28:30.500 --> 28:33.500 where I started my radio career, 28:33.500 --> 28:39.500 and Bruce Springsteen never really caught on big in the chart. 28:39.500 --> 28:42.500 And I say chart because back then, you know, there was a chart, 28:42.500 --> 28:44.500 it was the top 40. 28:44.500 --> 28:46.500 And then, of course, we got the, the top 50, 28:46.500 --> 28:49.500 and then the top 40 album and singles and airplane. 28:49.500 --> 28:51.500 And these days, you have the top download chart. 28:51.500 --> 28:53.500 So there's no real authority, you know, it's a, 28:53.500 --> 28:54.500 but that used to be very simple. 28:54.500 --> 28:58.500 It was compiled based upon actual sales figures. 28:59.500 --> 29:02.500 But also, some audience research was put in there. 29:02.500 --> 29:07.500 And it was, it was a, it was a good chart. 29:07.500 --> 29:10.500 And you could get it, you know, and if you played a song 29:10.500 --> 29:13.500 and then some of the other DJs from other stations 29:13.500 --> 29:15.500 or your own station would also play that song, 29:15.500 --> 29:17.500 then it could get some momentum, you know, 29:17.500 --> 29:19.500 and then you'd break an artist. 29:19.500 --> 29:22.500 And that was something that we were proud of, you know, 29:22.500 --> 29:23.500 it's like dude. 29:23.500 --> 29:27.500 And I've actually broken a couple artists in Holland 29:27.500 --> 29:29.500 that people will attribute to me. 29:32.500 --> 29:36.500 I laughed because Renee Froker is probably, 29:36.500 --> 29:39.500 the one that became most famous after I, 29:39.500 --> 29:41.500 I broke him as an artist. 29:41.500 --> 29:43.500 It sounds weird, doesn't it? 29:43.500 --> 29:45.500 It's like a real industry term. 29:45.500 --> 29:46.500 I broke you, boy. 29:46.500 --> 29:50.500 He's kind of like the Dutch Engelbert Humperding. 29:50.500 --> 29:53.500 So that's why I'm chuckling. 29:53.500 --> 29:56.500 But anyway, I digress. 29:57.500 --> 29:59.500 I was had a joint after dinner. 29:59.500 --> 30:00.500 I forgot to mention that. 30:00.500 --> 30:02.500 So that's why you get like. 30:02.500 --> 30:05.500 Okay. 30:05.500 --> 30:09.500 So, but it really was all about, you know, 30:09.500 --> 30:11.500 it was just pride. 30:11.500 --> 30:14.500 And then it would be even better if that artist went on 30:14.500 --> 30:16.500 to get a gold record. 30:16.500 --> 30:19.500 And, you know, somewhere down the line, 30:19.500 --> 30:22.500 you would actually be presented with something like that, 30:22.500 --> 30:25.500 like a gold record or platinum record or whatever. 30:25.500 --> 30:28.500 And it says, you know, thanks for your thanks for contributing 30:28.500 --> 30:32.500 to the success of the album or the artist or whatever, 30:32.500 --> 30:34.500 depending on what your contribution was. 30:34.500 --> 30:35.500 Literally. 30:35.500 --> 30:36.500 And there was no money that passed hands. 30:36.500 --> 30:38.500 You know, this is just a part of a thing that happened. 30:38.500 --> 30:40.500 And it just started to roll and snowball. 30:40.500 --> 30:44.500 And, you know, and something would catch on. 30:44.500 --> 30:47.500 And then the audience would catch on and it just goes, right? 30:47.500 --> 30:49.500 But sometimes songs need a little bit more. 30:49.500 --> 30:53.500 And you know, I guess they're more complex or something or whatever. 30:53.500 --> 30:57.500 So, as I was saying, Bruce Springsteen was something that 30:57.500 --> 31:00.500 buddy and I broke in Holland. 31:00.500 --> 31:03.500 It was dancing in the dark. 31:03.500 --> 31:06.500 It just wasn't catching on. 31:06.500 --> 31:09.500 But there's been, you know, lots of examples like that. 31:09.500 --> 31:13.500 And even at MTV in the very early days when I was there, 31:13.500 --> 31:15.500 which was still the 80s, you know, 31:15.500 --> 31:17.500 you could still kind of have some kind of influence. 31:17.500 --> 31:18.500 But it just went away. 31:18.500 --> 31:21.500 And also, the gold record started going to everybody, 31:21.500 --> 31:24.500 like the sales guy and, you know, the station manager, 31:24.500 --> 31:25.500 and became more cheesy. 31:25.500 --> 31:29.500 And, you know, more like production work, nothing, 31:29.500 --> 31:32.500 it used to be that you could actually play these records. 31:32.500 --> 31:34.500 They would be the, they weren't really, well, 31:34.500 --> 31:35.500 they were dipped in gold, I think. 31:35.500 --> 31:39.500 But most of them, the original records that were given to, you know, 31:39.500 --> 31:43.500 given to the artist based upon huge amounts of sales, 31:43.500 --> 31:49.500 were the mother or father masters when they were still pressing records. 31:49.500 --> 31:53.500 And you could actually take them out and play them. 31:53.500 --> 31:55.500 You have to play them backwards, though, 31:55.500 --> 31:59.500 because it's a reverse of what you'd actually have in the vinyl. 31:59.500 --> 32:03.500 And Patricia has a lot of the original type of gold records. 32:03.500 --> 32:07.500 And one time by my radio show, we took one out of the casing 32:07.500 --> 32:09.500 and played it backwards. 32:09.500 --> 32:11.500 And it actually was the real record. 32:11.500 --> 32:15.500 But I never got the casing back together the way it was intended to be. 32:15.500 --> 32:17.500 So I'm not allowed to demonstrate that anymore. 32:17.500 --> 32:21.500 I've been banned from touching the gold records and rightly so. 32:21.500 --> 32:25.500 But anyway, it's nothing about, you know, 32:25.500 --> 32:29.500 about wanting to do anything more than just have that feeling. 32:29.500 --> 32:31.500 That's a great feeling when it works. 32:31.500 --> 32:35.500 And that, I guess that's what kind of, what, 32:35.500 --> 32:38.500 what, that's what the kick is about that. 32:38.500 --> 32:41.500 I get out of playing the civvies, bitis, and bitis, 32:41.500 --> 32:43.500 and hearing people catch on and like it, 32:43.500 --> 32:46.500 and watching them get famous. 32:46.500 --> 32:49.500 You know what? 32:49.500 --> 32:51.500 I'm tired of this. 32:51.500 --> 32:52.500 Let's do something else. 32:52.500 --> 32:53.500 We do live from your headphones. 32:53.500 --> 32:55.500 It's asked Uncle Know It All. 32:55.500 --> 33:02.500 Hello everyone and welcome to this week's edition of Ask Uncle Know It All. 33:02.500 --> 33:06.500 This week's question comes to us from Sex Kitten, who asks? 33:06.500 --> 33:08.500 Dear Uncle Know It All. 33:08.500 --> 33:12.500 I'm writing because I'm wondering, what's the deal with the cowbell? 33:12.500 --> 33:14.500 Thanks so much. 33:14.500 --> 33:15.500 Hugs and kisses. 33:15.500 --> 33:16.500 Love you. 33:16.500 --> 33:17.500 Sex Kitten. 33:17.500 --> 33:19.500 Well, Sex Kitten. 33:19.500 --> 33:21.500 Sometime ago, VH1 aired a documentary 33:21.500 --> 33:24.500 of the blue oyster cult in studio recording their hit song, 33:24.500 --> 33:26.500 don't fear the reaper. 33:26.500 --> 33:28.500 While they were recording, Bruce Dickinson made comments 33:28.500 --> 33:30.500 about how he loved the cowbell sound 33:30.500 --> 33:32.500 who, done by one of the band members. 33:32.500 --> 33:35.500 Now, this caused something of a stir in the current music industry. 33:35.500 --> 33:37.500 And as a result of this footage, 33:37.500 --> 33:40.500 next March, Virgin Records is releasing the cowbell collection, 33:40.500 --> 33:43.500 which is a collection of both old and new songs 33:43.500 --> 33:45.500 featuring Greg Groups on cowbell. 33:45.500 --> 33:48.500 Now, if managed to secure an advanced copy of this CD, 33:48.500 --> 33:51.500 and I'll be playing a couple of samples for you. 33:51.500 --> 33:53.500 Our first sample is, 33:53.500 --> 33:56.500 Stip Tiffany's recorded by Deep Blue Something. 34:05.500 --> 34:07.500 This next song was recorded by Metallica, 34:07.500 --> 34:09.500 entitled Enter Sandman. 34:09.500 --> 34:10.500 And last but not least, 34:10.500 --> 34:11.500 we have gin and juice, 34:11.500 --> 34:13.500 courtesy of Grandmaster Rapa, Snoop Dogg. 34:17.500 --> 34:19.500 As you can see, or rather, here, 34:19.500 --> 34:22.500 the cowbell can be used with a variety of different music styles. 34:22.500 --> 34:25.500 In fact, there's only one style of music that the cowbell 34:25.500 --> 34:26.500 cannot help. 34:26.500 --> 34:27.500 It's not that easy. 34:27.500 --> 34:29.500 It's not that easy. 34:29.500 --> 34:32.500 As you can see, or rather, here, 34:32.500 --> 34:35.500 the cowbell can be used with a variety of different music styles. 34:35.500 --> 34:38.500 In fact, there's only one style of music that the cowbell 34:38.500 --> 34:40.500 cannot help, and that's country, 34:40.500 --> 34:43.500 because nothing can help country music. 34:43.500 --> 34:46.500 Now, inside sources also tell me that 34:46.500 --> 34:49.500 P. Diddy will be releasing a new album entitled 34:49.500 --> 34:50.500 Cowbell in the Hizzles, 34:50.500 --> 34:53.500 which features remakes of every song 34:53.500 --> 34:55.500 on the Cowbell collection. 34:55.500 --> 34:57.500 And that about wraps it up for this week. 34:57.500 --> 34:59.500 Don't forget, send me your questions, 34:59.500 --> 35:01.500 your questions, make the show. 35:01.500 --> 35:03.500 You can email Soundclips or just type the question 35:03.500 --> 35:04.500 if you prefer. 35:04.500 --> 35:08.500 The email address is Uncle Know It All at gmail.com. 35:08.500 --> 35:09.500 Thanks. 35:09.500 --> 35:12.500 On Cowboy Casting with Adam Curry. 35:13.750 --> 35:48.750 [ Music ] 35:50.500 --> 35:52.500 Well, you might as well jump. 35:52.500 --> 35:55.500 Go ahead and jump. 35:55.500 --> 35:57.500 Man, I'll say jump. 35:57.500 --> 36:00.500 Go ahead and jump. 36:03.750 --> 36:31.500 [ Music ] 36:31.500 --> 36:36.500 I said jump, jump, go ahead and jump 36:36.500 --> 36:41.500 People I said jump, jump, go ahead and jump 36:41.500 --> 36:43.500 Hold jump the whole time 36:43.750 --> 37:11.500 [ Music ] 37:11.500 --> 37:18.500 Hold jump, go ahead and jump 37:19.500 --> 37:21.500 Oh, they're a classic difference 37:21.500 --> 37:23.500 Say you might as well jump 37:23.500 --> 37:26.500 You're head and jump 37:26.500 --> 37:28.500 Come on and jump 37:28.500 --> 37:31.500 Go ahead and jump 37:31.500 --> 37:33.500 Man I said jump 37:33.500 --> 37:36.500 Go ahead and jump 37:36.500 --> 37:37.500 Come on, now jump 37:37.500 --> 37:40.500 Time is rhythm and sense 37:40.500 --> 37:43.500 And then all I know for today's daily source code 37:43.500 --> 37:47.500 Actually, this special one we can make up for this new source code 37:47.500 --> 37:50.500 How's the difference? 37:50.500 --> 37:53.500 How's the difference? 37:53.500 --> 37:55.500 Yeah, I've got to play more of those guys. 37:55.500 --> 37:56.500 I say rock. 37:56.500 --> 37:57.500 All right, everybody, that's it. 37:57.500 --> 37:58.500 Have a good weekend. 37:58.500 --> 38:00.500 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. 38:00.500 --> 38:02.500 Or maybe you're just getting this. 38:02.500 --> 38:03.500 And it's already Monday morning. 38:03.500 --> 38:05.500 So then you have another source code on the way later on. 38:05.500 --> 38:08.500 I'm going to leave it for this for now. 38:08.500 --> 38:09.500 Of course, comments. 38:09.500 --> 38:11.500 I don't have to worry.com. 38:11.500 --> 38:12.500 If you've got an MP3 comment, 38:12.500 --> 38:14.500 send it to MP3 feedback at gmail.com. 38:14.500 --> 38:16.500 And of course, comments on the web 38:16.500 --> 38:18.500 longer, always run. 38:18.500 --> 38:19.500 Some power. 38:19.500 --> 38:20.500 Some power. 38:20.500 --> 38:21.500 Some power. 38:21.500 --> 38:23.500 www.create.com. 38:26.250 --> 38:46.250 [ Music ] 38:46.500 --> 38:49.500 Thanks for watching.