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Yeah, Bunny, Bunny, Rabbit,
Rabbit.

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This is March 1st Daily Source
Code.

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Oh, justing.

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It's Adam Curry.

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Hey, everybody.

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That's right.

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First of the month, welcome to
the Daily Source Code.

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Oh, yeah.

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New location today.

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We are downstairs in the kitchen
here at the Curry Cottage.

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Reason being, I just don't have
enough time to get it all done.

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Patricia is on a business trip.

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She's gone for two days, which
means I'm Mr. Mom and podcast
pod, father.

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Sorry, life's getting to the way
of all the fun stuff.

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Man, I, you know, there's a lot
to do in this household.

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Stuff that I hadn't realized,
especially having been on the
road myself for almost two
weeks.

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Yeah, you come back and then you
kind of forget all the stuff
that goes into making a
household

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run.

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Let me just lower down the
opening theme music here.

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So, because I'm going to have to
take the headphones off or
actually remove the ear buds

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so that I can walk around.

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And I figured I'd do my chores
while talking with y'all today.

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And the chores, well, they'd all
started this morning.

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And of course, moms who are
listening or stay at home dad's
will probably be

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chuckling right now, saying, you
know, curry, what the hell is
wrong with you?

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Yeah, this is like, welcome to
reality, right?

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And aren't podcasts pretty much
about reality in many cases.

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Let me see, get everything else
set up here.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Right, let me just take the
headphones off.

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So, it started this morning at
6.30, the alarm went because I
had to get Christina off to
school

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and that, you know, that entails
making a lunch.

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Well, actually, we still have
the two dogs and the two cats.

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So they all need to be taken
care of in the morning and have
to be let out and walked

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and fed or, you know, they all
drink lots of water.

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You know, shoot the water bowl
as empty again, hold on a
second.

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And then there's a dishwasher,
which I haven't emptied out yet.

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There's lunch that has to be
made, then I drove Christina to
school, I actually considered

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starting the podcast this
morning before we went to
school, but maybe I should, I
thought

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that maybe I should ask
Christina before I just did
that.

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Like me, she's not really a
morning person.

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We're not very good in the
morning.

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So you can just imagine us two
grouches kind of scouring over
breakfast at each other.

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I didn't get to bed on time, or
at least, you know, I wanted to
be in bed around midnight,

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but the way it works out with
the time differences, five hours
difference between East

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coast of the US and the cottage
here, Gilford, which means that
if you want to have, you

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kind of like a regular morning
conference call with anyone,
which, you know, it's like, you

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know, 10 or 11 o'clock, it's
already three, four p.m. here,
Christina comes out of school

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at three, thirty.

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And so what I've been doing is
I've basically had the car
service picker up and bring

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her home.

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It's only like a 10 minute ride,
but, you know, it's just right
at that inconvenient

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time.

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And I do like taking her to
school, because we always have a
good laugh in the car in the

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morning listening to the radio
or sometimes we'll listen to
podcasts and we'll talk, talk

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while it's going on at school.

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This morning was an interesting
conversation.

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We listened to the radio and
there was some report about some
middle school in the UK.

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I think a little bit, it was in
London or another suburb of
London, and talking about

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how many kids were bringing
knives to school and other
weapons, some joke like, oh, you

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know, weapons of mass
destruction said, oh, you know,
what's with the guys at my
school

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of knives?

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What?

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So, you know, like pocket
knives, like, you know, like,
you know, this long, it's

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you could actually tell me how
long the knives were and what,
you know, they have silver

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bladed, but as well, what are
they using for?

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Well, in case they get into a
fight, they said, you got to be
kidding me.

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So, well, that's never really
actually happened, but it's kind
of like a, it's like you

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got your iPod, you got your
knife, you know, it's like Jesus
Christ.

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And then I kind of thought back
to, when I was a kid going to
school, and I went to a,

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a, a Christian school, the
Christian, the Christianly say
him about the Felbert, and we
had

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all kind of, we were always
carrying shit.

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We had knives and, you know,
stilettos, you know, which, you
know, the switchblade, which

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kind of like swings out and
locks, and the other stilettos,
which comes with shoots out

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of the blade, kind of like a
taxi driver thing.

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We had all that shit as well,
and it was just posturing, I
guess, oh shoot, I don't know,

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and I haven't, the gate is open,
which I have to close, because
otherwise the dogs would

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run out to the front of the
house.

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So, it's about three degrees
centigrade, it was snowing this
morning.

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It's not quite as cold as the
rest of some parts of Europe in,
in Holland, I think it's

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like five below, and last night
it was definitely freezing here,
and I'm, I'm going

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to more and more dismayed with
the house that we're renting,
it's so cold, you know,

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it's like, we pay, we pay a lot
of money to rent this place, but
you actually have to,

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probably add another two to 300
pounds a month on to the bill
just for the extra heating,

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because, you know, these non
double-pain windows, you walk
past any window, you can
literally

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feel the cold just flowing over,
it's not very handy, okay, so
let me just start by

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clearing out the dishwasher,
another crappy feature of the
rental home, the dishwasher
sucks,

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and it's too bad because we had
a great dishwasher in Belgium at
the castle, which we

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could have taken with us, but
the one here looked to be okay,
but there's a couple of things

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that just really aren't right,
the knives slide through the
knife, or the silverware
container,

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and then, so they're like jammed
down into the down below the
rack, so it's impossible to take

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the bottom tray out and then it
derails all the time, just these
little things, and I don't

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know if I'm really a believer in
washing machines anyway, you're
basically handling everything

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twice, and you become really
lazy, particularly if you have
one of these dishwashers that

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empties itself automatically,
have you ever seen that? Yeah,
the way it works is Patricia

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does it, that's why you don't
realize what a pain in the acid
is until you do it, okay, let me

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see, so a couple of things I'm
going to talk about today on
daily source code, some of them

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obviously podcast related, let
me see, I have the line up here,
we have, I'm going to talk

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about some commercial podcast
efforts that are popping up,
talk about the iPod directorie,

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I'm going to talk about Father
Roderick, he has some exciting
news, and of course there's a

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hit test, which is always fun,
so let me just put the earbuds
in for a second, because I
received

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Sid's mashup of the day, while
you're here in the background,
by the way, that's Radio 2,

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that's Terry Wogan, does the
morning show on Radio 2, and I
think he starts at 7 or 730,

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and he goes until 11 o'clock,
it's a pretty long shift, but
it's a fun show, very,

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it's kind of like a podcast in a
way, I have to say, he's just
talking crap and he has his,

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it sounds like he has his
buddies there, it's not like a
hot rock in flame through and
morning show,

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but he's just, you know,
responding to viewer comments
and has talks to people on the
phone

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and plays really, really good
songs, at least songs that I
like, you know, but of course
I'm

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an old fart and 40, so let's
see, Sid sent me a track by John
Wignal, aka DJ Wig, quality,

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not too good Sid says, oh,
that's too bad, but a brilliant
mashup, beds are burning by
midnight oil,

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and this is how we do it, my
Montel, Jordan, totally made for
each other. Later this week,

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oh, this is, oh, Sid is now
teasing stuff, the 80s porn
version of back to life, sold to
whole, okay,

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so we'll look forward to that,
Sid, the mashup, pimp daddy, but
right now this is how we burn
the beds.

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[ Music ]

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and money does it like nobody
does it like nobody does it like

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quality wasn't too bad, this is
how we burn the beds, you heard
it here on the daily source
code,

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it's the first of the month,
remember we said, bunny bunny
rabbit rabbit which is supposed
to

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be the first thing out of your
mouth on the first day of a new
month and it's supposed to bring
you

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health and wealth and fame and
riches and all kinds of groovy
stuff, so I said it for you all,

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since I've got all that and I'm
really happy and feel extremely
privileged, almost done with

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three, I can't believe it, the
two of us made that big a load
for the dishwasher, that's just

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ridiculous, I'm learning, I'm
learning, okay, time to load it
out, speaking of mashups,

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lots of responses about the news
that the Battalica site was shut
down, and of course,

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none of them from lawyers as far
as I can tell, but a lot of
different opinions about what
can and

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can't be done, I'm going to, oh,
let me just walk over to the, to
the power book, so one of them

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is from Eric, he says, he says,
if you record a song as a parody
of the original, you are
protected

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from copyright infringement,
because on to say, we're the
link of each show that's to be
true

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when he recorded parody songs
that when he asked the original
artist for permission first and
they

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said, no, he did it anyway
because you're allowed to do
that as a parody under fair use.

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I would think that Battalica
presenting Beetle songs in a
parody format started like
Metallica

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would fall under this as well,
but Battalica should check with
their lawyers, yes, of course,

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Eric, from the soundhouse
studios, I agree, they should
check with their lawyers, and
unfortunately,

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you got to have lawyers for
almost everything these days,
and then other people have sent
an email

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saying that, you know, you can
do that with almost any song
except for basically the
Beetles,

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the Rolling Stones, and one or
two others, I'm not quite sure,
I think that

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there's probably a lot of strong
arming going on with this stuff,
and it's really a shame,

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I mean, if I were Metallica or
if I were who owns the Beetles,
it's still Michael Jackson,

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who owns the Beetles catalog,
I'd be ecstatic, you know, I'd
be like, how do we release this
stuff?

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How do we, basically,
repackaging of already great
material, we should be able to
make money on it?

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And the oops, shit, no, and the
Battalica musicians as well,

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that's weird times we live in,
that's not sure, okay, almost
done loading up the

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mornings breakfast, this is our
breakfast mashup here, okay,
what else do we have?

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Table, oh, Christina, I didn't
take her lactose pill, she's a
little bit lactose intolerant,

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although that's gotten much,
much better since we moved here,
I don't know if there's

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well, I'm sure there's different
types of cows, I don't know if
the milk is different or
whatever,

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but she really, it's not that
bad, whereas you know, if you
had like mashed potatoes and put

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even a little bit of milk in
there, it would trip around, it
really, it's sad because it, you
know,

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she gets a stomach ache from it.
Okay, see, a derailed again,
fucking you.

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Good, done, I'm getting there, I
also have to vacuum the place
it's just a stye, man, it really

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is. How does Patricia do it? How
does she keep up with all this
crap?

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So last night, before I went to
bed, I actually had a little
phone call with

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Madge Weinstein, who had emailed
me a press release that she was
putting out or was about to put
out

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and wanted to have my okay on
it, about the Madge Weinstein
iPod Shuffle Contest,

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which is just an amazing thing
that she's doing, went out and
spent, well, must have

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meant at least $5 or $600 of her
own money to promote the yeast
radio show, yeastradio.com.

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And I guess the deal is, it's
starting today, you have to
listen to all of the yeast radio

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programs or whatever podcasts
are being released for clues and
every week, one lucky listener

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will receive an iPod shuffle,
the 500 gigabyte, a gigabyte,
whoops, that would be a shuffle.

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A mega shuffle, now the 500
megabyte and it will come
preloaded with all of the Madge
Weinstein

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yeast radio podcasts, which I
think is great and actually in
the press release, she goes in
this whole

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tire rate about, you know, so
what if Bono and YouTube have
their iPod, Madge has their

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Madge pod or yeast pod or
whatever it is, and she sent me
a promo, which we're going to
have

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a listen to right now. Hello
everyone, this is Madge
Weinstein of yeastradio.com with
an

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important announcement, starting
March 1st, I am going to be
giving away one free iPod
shuffle

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out every week for the next five
weeks, but you have to listen to
yeast radio to find out how.

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Along with this iPod shuffle is
going to be a full collection of
all the yeast radio shows to
date.

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You have to listen to yeast
radio to find out how to win
this, and this is not a free
iPod

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scam, I have all five iPods in
my possession, and they are for
you, my general audience. So
listen

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to yeastradio.com very carefully
for instructions on how to win
the iPod shuffles.

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The shuffles. Excellent, great
promotion, great contest. And
this is not like one of those

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get a free iPod deals. You know,
she actually went out and bought
the iPods and is probably

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still in the process of
preloading them. So this is a
real deal, and as you certainly
get her a lot

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of listeners or extra listeners,
and hopefully you will subscribe
as well. By the way, the yeast

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radio program is certainly not
safe for work. So we look at the
paper for a second here, what's
going

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on in the UK? The paper I like
is the Financial Times, or as we
say here, FT. I don't know what

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it is about the Financial Times,
but it really just seems to
always have the stories that I'm
interested

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in. It's a mix of business and
finance and world news, but
right at the top here, Jackson's
TV

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thriller, celebrity trial gives
a boost to courtroom television
page 12. There's a whole thing
in here

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about reality television. Here,
people are going to court TV and
other broadcasts are hoping

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for a big boost to the audiences
from Michael Jackson's trial.
That's right, and it is going to

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be huge, and it's kind of
disgusting. I hear news reports
everywhere, and there's so
little respect

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for Michael Jackson. Here they
all call him, well, I guess
Wacco Jacco is pretty much

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universally used around the
globe, but I've been in that
position, not in, obviously, not
in

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Michael Jackson's exact
position, but it sucks, man,
when people show no respect, and
it's

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I don't know. There's so many, I
think recently even we're seeing
more and more people posting

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about how inaccurate the press
really is, and this is no news
to me, because I think I've been
interviewed.

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Well, I've been in newspapers
and radio television interviews
since I was

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16, but really since I was 19,
half of my life has been in show
business. I don't think of

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ever read one single interview
that was entirely right, and
usually there's just all kinds
of

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mistakes in there, and what you
learn is that it's really your
fault. It's not the media's
fault.

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It's how you, you have to be a
better storyteller. You have to
explain better what you're
talking

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about, and it really shows how
little people understand when it
comes to two-way communication,

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and I've come to the realization
more and more that sometimes I'm
really not a good communicator,

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and people just really
understand things differently,
or to have a different take on
them, or we're

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thinking something else at the
time when you have to look for
the clues, which I don't really

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like doing phone interviews. I
like talking to people face to
face, so you can really see if
they're

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understanding what you're
talking about. Okay, hold on,
let me just, I've got to do the
countertop.

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One of my using here, Mr.
Mussela, a Johnson and Johnson,
a family company. That's great.

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Johnson and Johnson, a family
company. Mr. Mussela loves the
job you hate. That's a
registered

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trademark, by the way. It's the
kitchen, dissolves grease, kills
bacteria. Let's give it a shot.
Meanwhile,

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Spandole Ballet is gold in the
background, on the Terry Wogan
Show. 8 million listeners that
guy has,

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that's pretty massive. Of
course, the infrastructure, BBC
radio is nice. People really do
listen to

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the radio in the UK, and that's
probably because satellite and
cable still hasn't really made
it all

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the way into a foot, I mean, it
just hasn't penetrated the way
it hasn't. In other countries
like the

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states, and sky satellite has
only been around for 10 years or
something like that, so it's
just

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not really peeking into massive
availability, and it really
works very well. But before
that,

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people will just listen to the
wireless, and they'd enjoy it.

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All right, the almost done here.
Let's start to look like a,
almost look like the way
Patricia does it.

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Okay. Let me do that. Kitchen
table, and then we can talk a
little bit more.

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See, it's really hard actually
to clean and talk at the same
time. I can't concentrate on

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two things. I'm not multitasking
like life. Okay. Here we go. By
the way, a lot of people want to
know what

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Patricia was doing. She has a
cosmetics company called LePy
Cosmetics, and she's doing some

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rather large deals with it over
the next two days, and it's
cool, you know, it's good for
her to get

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away as well, and just be doing
some stuff with other people,
even though it's hard work and
she's got

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all kinds of early and late
meetings to move. Right. Okay.
Back to the computer. What do we
have?

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Ah, Scriss tomes would Chris, a
Chris said. See, notice the,
it's ever since you discovered

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the world of podcasts and his
trips to the iTunes Music Store
have been much less. It's also,

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he says, save me tons of cash.
And I wonder if other podcasts
listeners have the same
experience.

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Giving the limit of time that he
has to plug in the iPod on the
way to work and the car on the

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train, his time is spent tuning
into a half a dozen or so
podcast on a daily basis. Hence,

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less time to listen to music and
the need to line the pockets of
Apple.

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So does podcast equal less Apple
iTunes downloads or will it have
no effect or will

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the more popular podcasts sell
their souls to iTunes and charge
99 cents or whatever to download

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them. Good question. Very good
question. Well I thought I think
we talked about that the other

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day that we're going to see all
kinds of services popping up. In
fact, not a day goes by

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that someone doesn't send me a
link. I've actually, you know, I
decided that I'm probably

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just going to create a category
for this in the iPod or
directory of podcasts services.

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Which is pretty much like a
weblog service. In fact, it's
just two sides of the same coin.

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So what you see is everyone
pretty much has the same idea.
You know, you a place to

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upload your files to manage
them, to manage the ID3 tags, to
create your feed, maintain your
feed,

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maintain your show notes and
it's all all different versions
of that. What I don't see is any

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real or any realistic pricing on
on bandwidth, which is where I
think a lot of these, you know,

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great ideas and great services
and you know, the idea is there
and it's really going to help

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people, although I still think
we need something much simpler.
There are probably hundreds of

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thousands of people out there
who want the podcast, but have
no, no, what I call it, just
really

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don't want to know about ID3
tags. They don't, they won't
mind entering in show notes, but
I

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think that's it, you know, it
should be click record, enter
some information or what we call

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show notes and that's it, you're
done, you know, it should be out
there, it should be working.

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I am about to give you a live
demonstration of the San Seo. I
haven't talked about it in a few
days.

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Mine is getting a little bit
cruddy actually and if you
don't, you're not careful when
you

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close it, then the pressure or
it doesn't seal properly and
then the pressure builds up and

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it spews out the side, which is
always a fun effect. I freshly
washed cup, washed by yours
truly

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in the machine. So I got my pod
in there and I have the cafe
crema coffee pod, medium roast.

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Let's see what this packaging
says. You know, I never really
pay attention to the packaging.

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New. Oh, a new way to enjoy
great coffee. We seal for
freshness. Individual soft
coffee pods

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provide exactly the right amount
of freshly brewed coffee. Can we
use an any coffee pod,

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crema machine? Excellent. Okay,
so that's how long it took for
the water to warm up. It's done.

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Hit the button and now the
freshly brewed taste is dripping
into the cup. It's coming out of
two

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spouts simultaneously. It's
going to give me exactly the
right amount. I like to put a
little sugar in

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and they also a little bit of
milk in and I usually do that
while it's still just a safe
time,

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but it's not fast enough for me.
I put it all in while it's still
dripping into the cup.

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And now it's just about stopped.
Perfect. Okay, okay. So
bandwidth. Yeah, that's going to
be a big deal.

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Now I've been doing some
calculations and it gets pretty
gnarly pretty quickly. So the
question is,

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man, I wish Bitcoin wasn't under
such heavy attack. I'm so
worried to start talking about

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or implementing Bitcoin because
just the fact that the name
Bitcoin has a real negative
connotation

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with the man with the
authorities these days, but I
think it is certainly a solution
to the ban with

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issue. But what I don't really
see is, you know, there's a
couple of ways to look at
podcasts.

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One is in the kind of like as an
audio blog post. So crack the
mic and just talk and then this

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people who are kind of making
little pieces of art and
productions and shows and
whatever you want to

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call them and it takes a lot of
work. It really does. By the
way, I'm just wondering around

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it's kind of like what I'm on
the telephone and do the same
thing. Are you a wanderer on the

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telephone? I can't sit still
when I'm talking to someone. And
I guess I'm talking to you. So
I'm going

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to wander around. I'm in the in
the dining room now trying to
collect my thoughts about this
stuff.

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I haven't really seen anyone
come up with the grand idea of
how we can actually make money
on podcast.

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All I'm seeing is rehash of
traditional models, which is
great, but not for a number of
years.

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There's just no way there's
going to be enough listeners to
podcasts to really make a dent
with

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any kind of advertising dollars.
So we'll have to figure out
either some other way or some
kind of

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bootstrap or what I think is
working very well for me, at
least, is find a product that
you're

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passionate about or make a
product or a service that you're
passionate about and use your
podcast

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to talk about it and build an
audience. So it may not be very
big audience, but if it's an
audience

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that's buying a product or the
one that you like, it could
certainly work. I've really been
selling

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coffee machines. It's
unbelievable. And I didn't
really think about it. I always
talked about the

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coffee machine and then decided
to, at least to put a link on my
web blog. So if you want one,

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you can buy one yourself and
I've sold. I should take, well,
I don't want to fire up fire

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fox now, but it must be close to
30 at this point. It's really
unbelievable. And also I get
credit

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for people buying the pods and
other accessories. I want to
talk about Gmail for a second,

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interesting the other day,
Gmail, I'm going to sit down,
you know mine. Gmail went down
the other

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day. I had never seen that
happen. And it was a little
frightening for a second, I'm
like,

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oh my god, you know, and you
come to realization, what if
Gmail loses all my shit? That
would

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really suck. I'm sure that
they've probably got their data,
backup situation or whatever
under

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control. It seems like the
Google grid is one, humongous
raid. So the data is probably
reasonably

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safe, but it does suck when the,
when the service is down. And I
have to say, compared to other

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email services, it's not bad. I
mean, I've seen Apple's email go
down severely. I mean, I have my
own

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email server, which I've run for
years. And, you know, there's
always some shit that crops up
with

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that, too, you know. And then,
yeah, the biggest problem with,
with most email systems, if you,

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if you use a laptop and you're
roaming around is, you know,
that damn port 25, you know,

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SMTP port. So you can't send
mail unless you've got the, you
know, the proper authentication

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authorization, which the web
mail stuff, of course, works
beautifully. And I like it very
much. I am

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seeing, however, a tremendous
amount of spam that Google isn't
catching. Now, you have the
report

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spam button, the keyboard
shortcut for that is an
exclamation point. And I do it
all the time.

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And all the spam that I get, I'm
very consistent about that. And
still, it keeps coming in,

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you know. And, and, and so I
don't know if, uh, if there's,
there's no setting to tighten it

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up or anything like that. But I
think that Google has to kind of
relook at some of their,

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you know, some of their, we call
that, uh, algorithms. There you
go.

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I do think it's kind of funny
though how, and the funny and
maybe scary at the same time.

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So I received, uh, an email from
a venture capital firm, uh, with
some very, you know,

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like some suggestions,
obviously. And you look over to
the right in your Gmail and on
the right,

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there's all these ads for, you
know, looking for funding. You
know, uh, and like, wow, man,

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that that's pretty intense. It
read my email and started giving
me links to go to places

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based upon the content of my
email. And for some reason, I
didn't really feel too bad about
it,

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you know, because I, I do
consider email and anything I
put on my computer to be just,
you know,

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completely open and eventually
accessible to anybody. I don't
think there's, you know, well,

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you see this logo on my weblog.
There are no secrets on the
information you don't yet have.

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But anyway, it would be nice if,
uh, if Google could work a
little bit on the, uh, on their
algorithms,

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get a little less spam coming
in. Uh, then after yesterday's,
uh, uh, little talk about, uh,

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people to maintain, it's time to
spark up your home.

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Hello.

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Yes, today's plea for editors
for the, uh, uh, iPart.org
directory.

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Well, though, thank you very
much. Lots of people wanted to
contribute. Really, really,

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love it. Um, and so I've already
handed off at least 10 nodes
this morning. I still got a lot
to go

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and people are also coming up
with new nodes they want to add
to the directory. Um, if you're
interested,

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it's iPart.org. Uh, iPart.org
slash contribute tells you how
you can contribute to, uh,

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creating this directory. And as
I said yesterday, uh,

33:56.560 --> 34:01.280
Marcus's work, Marcus Maloe,
I've been working with for, for
many years, is working on, uh,

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expanding the directory so that
each individual node, um, you
know, every editor of a, of a

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category, which I call node
managers, uh, will have a whole
bunch of tools to really make
that,

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well, it'll be a weblog all by
itself. You know, so that you
can, um, really promote that
category.

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You should be able to, uh, work
much closer with the, uh, with
the people who are providing,

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podcast for that category. And
you should also be out, you
know, be able to recruit and go
out and

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find stuff and not just wait for
submissions. You know, let's
really build this sucker out.
That's

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going to be fun. Um, so thank
you all very much. If, if you're
looking to do an OPML file to
add

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into the directory, um, although
in the, you know, the iPart.org
slash contribute, there's lots
of,

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options and explanations about
how you can do it. I mean, you
can even create your OPML file
by hand.

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What we're seeing though is
that, you know, people who are,
for instance, will do it by
hand,

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which is just so beautiful.
This, um, A that it's simple
enough for you to be able to
edit this by hand,

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but B that people are willing to
do that kind of work. Uh, you
see that in, you know, like,

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note pad on windows, it adds all
kinds of funky characters when
you save it out. So trying to
stay away

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from that and for the time
being, I still would suggest you
use, uh, radio user land, uh,
which

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has a great OPML, uh, it's, uh,
the whole thing is OPML. It's
inherent to the program. And it
works

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perfectly on Macintosh and on
Windows. And I was thinking, I
saw that Steve Kirk's, uh, I
guess

35:31.680 --> 35:36.720
is the product manager at user
land. He, uh, he, he heard the
mention yesterday. I'm thinking
Steve,

35:36.800 --> 35:41.040
you know, why don't you help
everybody out here, since, you
know, maybe there's a discount
or something

35:41.040 --> 35:45.360
that people can get if they're
working on the, on the iPod or
directory, just a thought.

35:45.360 --> 35:49.200
I don't want to beg or anything
like that. Have you got to move
along here? This, uh,

35:50.080 --> 35:55.760
has 35 minutes into this. Um,
wanted to plug a project of a
real good buddy of mine, Peter
Ford,

35:56.800 --> 36:04.000
uh, Peter Ford was, uh,
Christina's, I want to say six
grade teacher. And this was the
guy who sent me an email

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or a sent home a letter with all
the kids saying, you know, I'm
Peter Ford, your, your son of

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daughters, uh, uh, teacher. And
if you have any questions, send
me an email. And this was,

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to what was this, uh, um, six
years ago, five or five years
ago. Uh, and at the time, I was
like,

36:21.360 --> 36:24.960
wow, you know, that's pretty
cool. Have a teacher, you know,
being, you know, soliciting
email.

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And with him, we got the whole
concept of web blogs and school
started, uh, at least at the

36:31.280 --> 36:36.800
British School of Amsterdam when
we started, uh, doing project
web blogs, where each student

36:36.800 --> 36:40.960
created a project in a blog,
which was great because all of
them had this built in audience,

36:40.960 --> 36:46.160
not just of their peers, but
their parents and brothers and
sisters and grandparents and
friends.

36:46.160 --> 36:50.640
And it was very successful. And
from that, we built school
blogs.com, which is still
running today

36:50.640 --> 36:58.240
with thousands of, uh, free, um,
uh, school blogs for teachers,
students, schools, uh, you know,

36:58.240 --> 37:02.480
all educational stuff. And he's
got something else going on. He
says, uh,

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wonder if you give a shout out
on your blog. Well, this will be
the next best thing. Of course,

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everything is in the show notes.
Uh, to the Keepers Poetry
Project that he set up with
Oxford

37:13.280 --> 37:18.320
Brooks University. Basically,
use the web blog to have kids
collaborate with real audience,

37:18.320 --> 37:23.520
purpose, et cetera. You know,
the educational score. Yes, I do
Peter. I would love to see
podcasters

37:23.600 --> 37:28.880
include their own Keepers poem
in their podcasts because it
would give another twist on the
whole

37:28.880 --> 37:34.640
poetry performance angle. So
there's a link to it to, uh, to,
uh, actually, to his, uh, web
blog where

37:34.640 --> 37:40.800
explains everything, um, and
then, of course, he winds up
saying a beer or Starbucks
coffee is long

37:40.800 --> 37:45.920
overdue. Yes, dammit. It's been
years, Peter. Where the hell do
you live? I forgot what you
live.

37:45.920 --> 37:51.360
I'm sure you don't live in your
gulf or you probably live up in
the sticks. All right. Let's,
uh,

37:51.440 --> 37:55.360
got a couple more things to do
here before I get out for today.
Um, a promo. Yeah.

37:56.640 --> 38:02.240
Hey, this is Ferd from
AirFerg.com. My wife and I do a
podcast about once a week on
some random

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topic that we pull out of our
butts. And, uh, here's a little
taste of something we did for
our

38:07.840 --> 38:18.560
Valentine's Day show. Do your
dick chain. You don't know me,
but I know you. I see one TV and
then

38:18.560 --> 38:24.720
pictures online and I just have
to let you know that I think
you're hot. I'm sure that some
people

38:24.720 --> 38:30.000
would call it a crash, but I'll
leave it up to you to figure out
what these feelings are. I've

38:30.000 --> 38:37.680
admired you from afar ever since
you came into the world
spotlight in 1999. You're
probably saying

38:37.680 --> 38:44.400
to yourself who me and I say
yes, you. I think you get the
idea. If you want to check us
out,

38:44.400 --> 38:51.280
go to airferg.com. That's
A-I-R-F-E-R-G dot com. Thanks
for listening. Bye bye.

38:53.600 --> 38:58.880
Airferg. Hey, I'm about ready
and got my, uh, on my crap
together so I can start

38:58.880 --> 39:07.360
emptying out the MP3 feedback at
gmail.com account. So once I've
done that, then you can start
submitting

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more promos. It's been nice to
have a little bit of a rest
though from the promos because
such

39:12.240 --> 39:17.040
credible amount of work to go
through them all and yeah, and
it's also, it's a bit disturbing

39:17.040 --> 39:20.160
because people get really pissed
off when, you know, like, how
can we didn't play my promo?
Well,

39:21.920 --> 39:29.120
we only got 40 minutes to do so.
Oops, come here. Dogs have to go
out. Come here. Jessie,

39:31.280 --> 39:38.720
are you lying on the couch? Oh,
come on, girl, go. Come on, come
on, buddy. Come on, come on,
come on.

39:39.680 --> 39:43.120
Now, you won't believe this. The
dog is laying on the beautiful
couch

39:43.600 --> 39:47.840
pausing the air on her back,
giving me the big wide-eyed
stare. Come on, girl. Come on,

39:47.840 --> 39:54.560
come on, come on, come on. Come
on. Come on. Come on.

39:55.840 --> 40:02.240
There you go, good girl. Come
on. She speaks Dutch. Well,
actually Dutch and any English.
Come on, girl.

40:02.960 --> 40:07.040
Push them. Swabber? That's her
other little dog. Come on, come
on, guys. Oh,

40:08.400 --> 40:13.360
the door is still locked. Come
on, one out. Take Christina to
the school.

40:14.960 --> 40:22.240
Yep. There you go. Good girl.
Come on. Swabber, yeah, go. The
other one speaks Dutch too.

40:22.800 --> 40:29.600
Swabber, Z-W-A-B-B-E-R stands
for mop. That's the Dutch word
from mop. He's a little

40:30.400 --> 40:34.800
Yorkie, Yorkshire Terrier. Yes,
go ahead and bark. I just saw
the nail arrive.

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Where we have here. We have, oh.
Everything happens at once now,
who's calling?

40:51.040 --> 40:57.120
Junkmail, junkmail. Oh, man,
that's another thing about a
rental home. You get so much
mail for

40:57.120 --> 41:01.520
previous tenants. It's not
funny. And you have to kind of
keep it

41:03.920 --> 41:07.280
because I do tend to drop by
once in a while and say, hey,
have you seen my nail?

41:08.560 --> 41:12.960
I was really excited about the
Catholic insider podcast. Talked
about that yesterday as well.

41:12.960 --> 41:21.840
Father Roderick with his
podcast, sound seeing of the
Vatican. He sent me an email. He
says he's got

41:21.840 --> 41:28.880
some great news. He is being
allowed or has been given
permission to do a sound seeing
tour inside

41:28.880 --> 41:35.040
the huge power of Vatican radio.
And that's not all. I'm reading
this directly from the show
notes.

41:35.600 --> 41:40.480
I'll read the way he wrote. I've
been talking here about
podcasting and I thought the
Vatican

41:40.480 --> 41:44.160
should get into podcasting. You
know what? They totally dig it.
They immediately saw the great

41:44.160 --> 41:50.000
new advantages of subscribing to
an RSS feed, the possibility of
getting high quality audio

41:50.800 --> 41:55.520
to the listeners, the idea of
getting people the opportunity
to listen to a show whenever and
wherever

41:55.520 --> 42:00.720
they want. So I've been invited
to head over to the Vatican
again today. Talk with their
webmaster

42:00.720 --> 42:07.680
to explain to her, wow, there's
women in the Vatican. How to set
up an RSS feed and how they can

42:07.680 --> 42:12.560
start podcasting. Ain't it cool?
I almost feel like I'm not only
an evangelist of the gospel,

42:12.560 --> 42:17.760
but also a podcast evangelist,
absolutely father of Roderick,
you are. But in the good news
about

42:17.840 --> 42:22.320
podcasting in Vatican City. So
the sound seeing tool will be up
later today. It's going to be
awesome.

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Got to see places where no
tourist has gone before. Now
that is cool. And the minute
it's out,

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I'll add it to the sound seeing
tours.com podcast feed. Very
excited about that. And I
really,

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really do enjoy your podcast
father Roderick. I love the most
is when you say, oh my gosh.

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I hear that a lot. Oh my gosh,
he says, yeah, right on.

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Hi Adam. Hey on. This is hit
test number 17. Oh man, we're
moving. Before we start,

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let me say that I really didn't
know that you had that many
listeners. What do you mean?

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I saw that there were 50,000 in
November. All right. If that
amounts,

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what does grown to 80,000. Wow,
that's really a lot. I hope that
the hit test has contributed to
that.

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Yeah, yeah, it will not really
contribute to that. I mean, it's
it's creaking the dot

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Mac infrastructure. Well, okay,
the hit test. Let's start right
away. This is number one.

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Not hit me. Oh, I know that one.
And once again.

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Chuck a con. Ain't nobody. That
was easy.

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And this is number two.

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One more time.

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The Tina Turner, maybe?

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It sounds like a Tina Turner
production, but I don't know
what it is.

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Unfortunately. And now the final
one.

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It's short. One more time. One
of my favorite songs. Without a
doubt, that's talk, talk,

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life's what you make it. But I
don't know what number two is.
So maybe we got two for three.

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It really shouldn't be too hard.
This is answer number one.

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It's roofers and chuck a con.
Ain't nobody.

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Still a great song. 20 years
old.

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I remember I just got to stop it
for a second. Reminds me of a
really good friend.

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And we just moved to New York in
1987 and Dan Hartman. The guy
from Me Light My Fire.

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Man, Patricia and I went to see
a Joe Cocker show with him at
the bottom line. I think

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it was the bottom line. Because
he and Charlie Midnight had
written and produced Joe
Cocker's album.

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This they had just done James
Brown living in America. These
guys were on top of the world
making

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super hit records. And we were
driving back to our apartment on
56th and Broadway. And Dan was
driving.

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And I don't know if we were
drunk or a little bit high. But
it was, I just remember him
going

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off on Chaka Khan. And he was
doing this whole Chaka Khan rap.
And he imitated the way she
talked.

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It was so, so funny. That just
flashed into my mind hearing
that. Unfortunately, Dan passed
away.

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Oh man, I think that he must
have passed away 10 or 11 years
ago of AIDS. And I miss him. I
miss him.

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Every single time I hear a song,
he wrote, he sang or produced. I
should, I should play. I can
dream about you.

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Let me see. If I have it, I'll
play it for you right now. That
would be just wonderful though.

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Oops. I don't know what that is.
Hold on. Let me see if I hope I
have Dan Hartman.

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I know I'm interrupting the hit
test here, but... shoot. No.
Okay. Well, I'm going to plan
that for another

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day, because that's just one of
my favorite songs. Okay, back to
the hit test.

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And number two in today's hit
test. It's Donna Summer. And
dinner with Gershwin.

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Ah, oh, I'm sorry. That was a
hit.

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Good song.

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Donna Summer. The second answer
in today's hit test. It's also a
song without a specific chorus,

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so it's a bit hot to edit with
Gershwin. Answer number two. And
this is the third and final

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answer in today's hit test. It's
talked off. Yeah. And life's
what you make it.

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Where did those guys go? What a
great band.

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This is sooo good. Talks talk.
And make it is the third and
final answering today's hit
test.

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Well, Adam, I hope you did well.
Yeah. And to be honest, feedback
is welcome at hittest.gmail.com.

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And you can find the information
about the hittest and the
hittest podcast at
www.yompolets.nl.

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That's
J-A-N-P-O-L-E-T-Dutch-N-L. Well,
Adam, see you next time for
another

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edition of the hittest. Bye-bye.
All right, young. Thank you very
much once again for

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lovely hittest. It is kind of
the highlight of my day. I have
to say it's fun to get the brain

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working. Okay, that's it for the
source code for today. A little
bit longer than normal. Thank
you

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all very much for subscribing
and for listening. Comments are
welcome at Adam at curry.com.

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You can always check out the
latest podcast, the archives,
and the podcast feed for this

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at dailysourcecode.com. My
weblog, where you will also find
show notes and other ram links,

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www.curry.com.

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So next up for me, vacuuming,
then I got some calls to do. And
Christina is going to go riding
it for

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clocks. They're going to pick up
a school and take it to the
stable. And we got to eat dinner

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on time, which I will be
preparing, because there's a
teacher of parent conferences
tonight

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starting at 7 o'clock. So plenty
to do. Oh man, maybe I should
podcast the teacher of

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the conference. That'd be
interesting. Well, we'll see if
we do that. Anyway, I'll see you
tomorrow

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right here on the daily source
code. Take care everybody.
Thanks for listening. Bye-bye.

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I'll see you all in the next
one.
