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Hi everybody, this is the Triple
P, Patricia Pie podcast.

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It has taken me many, many
moons, my friends, to get, it's
always hard, to get Patricia
into

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the studio here at the cottage.

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Many people have requested, we
play more of her songs, listen
to more of her story, and

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this is the only show where your
biggest fan gets to ask you
questions and play your music.

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And that's you?

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That's me.

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Oh, that's so sweet.

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Well, thank you for having me,
Mr. Curry.

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Yes.

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And you know why I never want to
do this, because I don't like to
look back.

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You know that.

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Yeah, but...

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You never hear me talk about it
or...

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No, never ever.

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No, I know.

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So how come...

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Always look ahead.

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So let's start right now.

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Why did you decide to do the
podcast?

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Because you're asking me.

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I know.

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Knife on the throat.

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That's all it took, is someone
to ask you?

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That's all?

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And you helped me in the
kitchen?

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Oh, okay.

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You did.

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I noticed.

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So can I start off with one of
my favorite songs that you've
done?

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Because, you know what?

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We have like four CDs, which is
probably 5% of all the music
you've made.

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Yes.

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It's just ridiculous.

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Yeah.

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How come you didn't look after
your shit, man?

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You should have at least kept
the CDs.

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See, that's why you're always
yelling at me.

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No, no, no.

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Because I made a lot of records.

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How many do you make?

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What's a lot?

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What's a lot?

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I think 75 to 100 records.

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Albums and CDs?

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No.

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And then say about 30 to 40
albums.

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No shit.

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So you have hundreds of songs?

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Yes.

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Maybe even like a thousand?

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Sometimes people play me
something and I don't even know
it's me or I know the song.

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I don't even know the song.

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I know.

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It's happened to me a couple of
times on the hit test.

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It's scary.

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If you meet people who know the
lyrics or sing along and I
think, shit, that's strange.

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And I will tell you later what
happens in my dreams because of
this.

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Is that the one with the
hookers?

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No.

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Okay.

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I'm going to start off with,
this is the genre I like that
you do best.

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Yeah, this is actually, I
started with this sort of music
because my daddy is a band
leader.

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[ Music ]

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You've got a little Ella there
at the end.

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Excuse me, put the mic in front
of your mouth.

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Ella was my favorite.

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So when I started to sing these
sort of songs, I was 15 years
old.

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15, and when I was 17, I went to
the nightclub where my dad's
band played.

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And in the weekend, I did some
songs in the nightclub.

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And how old were you, 15?

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I was 17 then.

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Actually too young, because
you're not allowed in the
nightclub.

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You weren't allowed to work
officially?

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No, no, no, no.

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So that was recorded in, I
think, 2001?

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Yeah, I did it again with my
dad's band.

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My dad is now, what is he, 78?

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No, he's 79.

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In 1978, he will be 79 this
year.

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And the band that you just
heard, they're all grandfathers.

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They're all his friends.

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Those guys are like half dead, I
remember that.

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This is sort of a hobby band,
and they still make beautiful
music.

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So you see that it doesn't
matter how old you are,

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you can always play music and
make music and it's lovely.

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So that's why I wanted to record
it, because it's wonderful.

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78, maybe.

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There was even one guy, 80.

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Was that the guy that couldn't
show up one day for recording,

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because they had...

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Yeah, how is that in English?

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Dottere.

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What is the word?

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They had to go to the hospital
to let his veins,

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like they cleaned the veins.

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I can't think of the word.

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Drew's heart, I don't know.

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Dutch is Dottere.

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Yeah, pump up the volume.

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Yeah, that was good though.

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They're so sweet if you see guys
playing.

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And that was on a Special
Collector's Edition EP.

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Actually, it's a very special
CD, because it only has four
songs on it.

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Hold on, I have it here in
iTunes.

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We recorded it actually,
especially for friends and
family,

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and just give it away to them.

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And a little known fact is that
on the CD,

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the title for Misty and a Foggy
Day have been reversed.

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Yes, that was wrong.

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Like 1500 CDs were the wrong
track titles.

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Exactly, yeah.

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I love that though, I love it.

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And that makes me think of the
time you sang with Tony Bennett.

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I don't have that recording
unfortunate.

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That was only on CD.

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No, we have it on tape, on
videotape.

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Your parents have that?

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No, we have it.

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We have it here?

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We have it too.

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What, on VHS or something?

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Probably, yeah, yeah.

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And it was a very famous program
in Holland that we had with Pim
Jakobs,

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one of the best jazz musicians.

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Yeah, lots of people know Pim
Jakobs and jazz.

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Yeah, and Rochie van Otlo, one
of the, what is it?

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Conductor.

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Conductors of beautiful big
band.

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Tony Bennett was in the show
that evening.

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And I had to sing a duet with
him, I remember.

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And the song that they chose, I
didn't like.

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Well, you did two songs, didn't
you do two songs?

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Yeah, I did two songs myself and
I had to sing a duet with Tony
Bennett.

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Yeah.

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And I hated that song.

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And didn't you tell him that?

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Yes, I said, I'm not going to
sing.

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Even if it's with you, I'm not
going to sing it.

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I hate it.

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You said that to Tony Bennett?

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Yeah.

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And what did you say?

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Yo.

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I said, no, I don't like it.

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And so we skipped it.

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We didn't do it.

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What song did you wind up doing?

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No, we did.

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At the end, we all sang a sort
of a song together.

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So you actually, you didn't
really sing a full duet with
Tony Bennett

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because you didn't like the
song?

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No.

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You don't even remember what
song it was?

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But he made a beautiful drawing
for me.

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That's true.

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And I still have it.

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You still have that?

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Yeah.

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He's quite a painter and a very
nice man.

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And he said to me, I heard that
you are actually a rock singer.

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He said, but don't ever do that
with your voice.

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This is what you should do.

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Yeah.

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I agree.

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Fuckin' A. Tony's right.

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But this music is wonderful.

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You can always sing it.

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You can always, even, it doesn't
matter how old you are.

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I hope this music will always
stay.

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Even with Frank Sinatra gone.

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Don't you think so?

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Oh yeah.

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And we really miss him.

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Don't we miss him?

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Absolutely.

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Fuckin' Lutely.

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Remember we saw him, one of his
last shows at the Meadowlands in
New Jersey?

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We did.

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Aren't we lucky?

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And it was canceled because he
felt ill.

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And we thought, oh shit, man.

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I was gonna fucking die.

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He was really bad at that time.

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He was on the ropes.

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I've seen him twice.

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I'm so happy.

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Yeah.

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I wish I'd seen the one at
Madison Square Garden that they
did the live recording.

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We've seen the one with Liza
Minnelli.

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We saw the one with Liza
Minnelli.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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She was pretty sober.

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Yeah.

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She was pretty good actually.

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Yeah.

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But not anymore.

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Now she's, the voice you got,
ah, ah, ah, ah.

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When they do that, you know,
it's screwed.

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It's all over.

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It's screwed.

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Yeah.

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So what most people don't know
is that you don't sing.

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What?

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I mean, well, you don't sing.

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You don't sing around the house.

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No.

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I mean, once in a while maybe.

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No.

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I only sing for money.

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Exactly.

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Now, I think you should explain
this because it's very hard for
people to understand,

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even for me actually.

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I mean, if I could sing like
you, I would be all over the
place.

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I'd be like, yo.

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Well, there are all sorts of
performances.

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Performers, I think.

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Mm-hmm.

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And because my dad is a musician
that had to work really hard to
take care of his family.

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Mm-hmm.

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And so I didn't know what to
become and what to do.

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And I thought, oh, I'm going to
be a singer then.

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Yeah.

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So because we all got something
of music in our bodies.

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And so I started to sing.

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But in these days, you,
especially in clubs and in
hotels and everything,

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Germany and Belgium and Holland,
that was for the money.

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And that's how I started.

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And then when suddenly somebody…

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It was just a job.

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Yeah, it was a job.

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It was just my job.

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I didn't know what to do, what
kind of job.

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I thought, okay, then I'll do
it.

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But didn't you like it too?

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I loved it.

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There were moments that I really
enjoyed it.

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But there were a lot of moments
I hated it.

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Okay.

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Let's start with the enjoying
moments.

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Well, you know, if you have
wonderful audience and people
are really swinging along

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and looking at you like, wow,
you know, there was a great
evening

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because we enjoyed the music so
much.

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But you had also evenings that
people were very drunk,

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didn't hear anything, were
talking really loud.

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And that's horrible.

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Then sound comes out of your
mouth.

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But what do you like more?

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Do you like performing,
recording, writing?

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What I always liked was
recording.

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Right, that makes sense.

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So coming up with ideas, doing
backups.

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And I love that.

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Although they say I'm a very
good performer.

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I can really…

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How do you say that?

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You can rock the house, baby.

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Put on a show.

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I'm trying to think what we
should play next.

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I mean, we have four CDs, hold
on.

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Well, if we have to go through
the whole story, it takes very
long.

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Oh, no, we'll never be able to
do that.

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Well, maybe we'll do it in
parts.

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Yeah, we'll do another one
another time.

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But we need more music.

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I mean, I have…

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What do I have here?

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I have…

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But I have to tell them,
actually.

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At least 50 songs.

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So they know how it happened.

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When I was performing one of the
biggest night clubs in
Amsterdam,

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a very famous guy.

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I don't even know what the name
is,

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but I remember it was…

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That's how long ago it is.

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Wait a minute.

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This was…

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You were 16 at the time?

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No, no, no.

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I think 17.

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I played also the fiber phone.

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I keep…

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The what?

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The fiber phone.

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I have one of those in my
pocket.

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No, no, no, no.

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The fiber phone.

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Is that the word?

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Is that like a xylophone?

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We did George Shearing songs.

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I remember that.

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So I was singing and I was
playing.

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And we were playing in that
nightclub.

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And one of the biggest agents
from Europe,

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and especially Amsterdam was his
office,

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came in with a guy from the TV.

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And they saw me.

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I don't know why he…

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They came specially for me.

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Who was that?

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Lufa Reis?

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Yeah, Lufa Reis, who always…

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Yeah, he was a big supporter of
you.

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Yeah, I invited Shirley Bassey
these days.

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Oh, right.

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He was the impresario.

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Impressario.

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That's how you called it.

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And he came with a guy, Willem
Daus.

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Oh, Willem Daus, right?

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Yeah, Willem Daus.

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He was a talk show host.

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A talk show host.

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The Johnny Carson from Holland,
right?

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They came in and they saw me and
they said,

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Kit, do you have a record deal
yet?

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Really?

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No, I wasn't even thinking about
that.

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Really?

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And I said, well, we're going to
do that.

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We're going to go to one of the
record companies yet.

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You need a deal.

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So, and that's how it started.

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So they became your managers?

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Your pimps?

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Yeah, they became, yes.

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Your pimps?

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Yeah.

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And from that moment on, I was
actually famous.

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And it never stopped.

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Cool.

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That's why we escaped.

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No, they were sitting here in
the cottage.

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Hold on one second.

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Don't go away.

15:45.640 --> 15:46.640
Okay.

15:46.640 --> 15:48.640
So the delay is a little less
now.

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All right.

15:49.640 --> 15:50.640
Okay.

15:50.640 --> 15:53.640
So, and that would be the song,
You Bit Need Hip.

15:53.640 --> 15:54.640
Yeah.

15:54.640 --> 15:55.640
So that was your first mega
smash.

15:55.640 --> 15:58.640
I was singing this sort of music
that we just heard.

15:58.640 --> 16:02.640
Like, you know, Misty and all
sort of beautiful standard.

16:02.640 --> 16:04.640
And they said, well, you cannot
sing that.

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But we don't need that.

16:05.640 --> 16:07.640
We just want to sell records.

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So you need to.

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Oh, what a concept.

16:10.640 --> 16:15.640
And in these days, the language,
like the Dutch language was very

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in to sing songs in Dutch.

16:17.640 --> 16:19.640
And I thought she wants to sing
in Dutch.

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Fuck that.

16:20.640 --> 16:21.640
It's horrible.

16:21.640 --> 16:23.640
You know, even speaking in
Dutch.

16:23.640 --> 16:25.640
It's tougher to sing in Dutch
than English.

16:25.640 --> 16:26.640
It is.

16:26.640 --> 16:27.640
Yeah.

16:27.640 --> 16:32.640
So it's not even nice to listen
to people talking Dutch, let
alone

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singing Dutch.

16:33.640 --> 16:35.640
It sounds like we're throwing up
all the time.

16:35.640 --> 16:36.640
Yeah.

16:36.640 --> 16:38.640
So, but I had to make a record.

16:38.640 --> 16:40.640
They said, you know, do it.

16:40.640 --> 16:42.640
That's what the people want.

16:42.640 --> 16:45.640
So I made, I remember singing a
song.

16:45.640 --> 16:48.640
It's called You Bit Need Hip,
which was a horrible song.

16:48.640 --> 16:49.640
I don't think I have that one.

16:49.640 --> 16:50.640
And I said, you know what?

16:50.640 --> 16:51.640
I hate it so much.

16:51.640 --> 16:53.640
I will sing it once.

16:53.640 --> 16:55.640
And then I will walk out of this
studio.

16:55.640 --> 16:57.640
You were always a problem child,
weren't you?

16:57.640 --> 16:58.640
Always, yeah.

16:58.640 --> 16:59.640
Oh, wait, oh no.

16:59.640 --> 17:01.640
I have the cover version.

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Oh, no, no, no.

17:03.640 --> 17:04.640
We don't want to play that.

17:04.640 --> 17:05.640
We don't want to play that.

17:05.640 --> 17:08.640
But anyway, I sang that song.

17:08.640 --> 17:13.640
And they put me, they didn't
even bother to pull the mic down

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because I was, you know, I'm
short.

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And so they put me on a little
stool so I can,

17:19.640 --> 17:20.640
it came a little bit higher.

17:20.640 --> 17:22.640
And that's how I sang it just
once.

17:22.640 --> 17:23.640
And it was a huge hit.

17:23.640 --> 17:24.640
And I said, I hate it.

17:24.640 --> 17:25.640
I said, I'm going to sing it
once.

17:25.640 --> 17:26.640
That's it.

17:26.640 --> 17:28.640
One take and do whatever you
want to do with it.

17:28.640 --> 17:31.640
And it became one of the biggest
hits in Holland.

17:31.640 --> 17:32.640
And I hate it.

17:32.640 --> 17:34.640
It's in every jukebox.

17:34.640 --> 17:36.640
People get drunk and they play
this song.

17:36.640 --> 17:37.640
Okay.

17:37.640 --> 17:38.640
So you won't play that one?

17:38.640 --> 17:39.640
No.

17:39.640 --> 17:41.640
Why don't we play the one that,
because I really didn't know
you.

17:41.640 --> 17:43.640
Isn't it always like that?

17:43.640 --> 17:45.640
Oh, the piece of shit throw away
becomes the biggest hit.

17:45.640 --> 17:46.640
The piece of shit is always the
biggest hit.

17:46.640 --> 17:47.640
Yeah, always, always.

17:47.640 --> 17:49.640
And you will hate it for the
rest of your life.

17:49.640 --> 17:50.640
Really?

17:50.640 --> 17:51.640
But it's not that bad.

17:51.640 --> 17:52.640
It's not even that.

17:52.640 --> 17:53.640
Sing just a little bit.

17:53.640 --> 17:54.640
Just a little bit.

17:54.640 --> 17:57.640
The older I get, I remember it
was a cover because it was

17:57.640 --> 17:58.640
I know your spiel.

17:58.640 --> 18:00.640
I know his glug in German.

18:00.640 --> 18:01.640
Oh, it was a cover song.

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I didn't know that.

18:02.640 --> 18:03.640
It's a cover song.

18:03.640 --> 18:04.640
Yeah.

18:04.640 --> 18:05.640
And I sing, you bend neat hip.

18:05.640 --> 18:06.640
You bend neat float.

18:06.640 --> 18:09.640
Yeah, out of feats, the ears of
that couple.

18:09.640 --> 18:11.640
La, la, la, la, la.

18:11.640 --> 18:12.640
Ba, da, da, da.

18:12.640 --> 18:13.640
It sounds a bit like it.

18:13.640 --> 18:14.640
Da, da, da, da.

18:14.640 --> 18:15.640
Da, da, da, da.

18:15.640 --> 18:16.640
Yeah.

18:16.640 --> 18:17.640
Da, da, da, da, da.

18:17.640 --> 18:18.640
Of course.

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Of course.

18:19.640 --> 18:23.640
It was a rip-off of an old
classic song.

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Interesting.

18:24.640 --> 18:25.640
And it became a hit.

18:25.640 --> 18:27.640
It was already hit in Germany,
so.

18:27.640 --> 18:29.640
But you remembered some of the
lyrics.

18:29.640 --> 18:31.640
Not all of them, but yeah, I do.

18:31.640 --> 18:34.640
And the funny thing is, I think
you never forget it,

18:34.640 --> 18:37.640
because if you have to sing it,

18:37.640 --> 18:39.640
and I think the words will come.

18:39.640 --> 18:40.640
The words will come.

18:40.640 --> 18:41.640
The words will come.

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If you sing it.

18:42.640 --> 18:43.640
Yeah.

18:43.640 --> 18:45.640
But isn't that one of your
nightmares that the words

18:45.640 --> 18:46.640
don't come?

18:46.640 --> 18:48.640
Well, that's what I wanted to
tell you.

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I know my nightmare.

18:50.640 --> 18:53.640
I always dream the same dream.

18:53.640 --> 18:58.640
And I think it's the nightmare
that all singers know of.

18:58.640 --> 19:00.640
I'm in a theater.

19:00.640 --> 19:02.640
I'm on stage.

19:02.640 --> 19:03.640
The show begins.

19:03.640 --> 19:05.640
Somebody announces me.

19:05.640 --> 19:07.640
I'm standing there, and I think,

19:07.640 --> 19:11.640
what the fuck am I going to
sing?

19:11.640 --> 19:12.640
Which song?

19:12.640 --> 19:13.640
And the band starts.

19:13.640 --> 19:15.640
And then the band starts,

19:15.640 --> 19:17.640
and I don't recognize the intro.

19:17.640 --> 19:18.640
Oh my goodness.

19:18.640 --> 19:20.640
And everybody's looking at me.

19:20.640 --> 19:22.640
The whole theater is looking at
me.

19:22.640 --> 19:23.640
And you just want to pee in your
pants.

19:23.640 --> 19:24.640
Oh my God.

19:24.640 --> 19:26.640
And I always dream it.

19:26.640 --> 19:28.640
And it never happened.

19:28.640 --> 19:30.640
No, it never happened.

19:30.640 --> 19:32.640
But do you get on stage
sometimes and think,

19:32.640 --> 19:35.640
oh my God, tonight's not the
dream night?

19:35.640 --> 19:36.640
Yeah, this is it.

19:36.640 --> 19:37.640
It's going to happen.

19:37.640 --> 19:39.640
Hey listen, here's a song I'm
going to play.

19:39.640 --> 19:41.640
See, this is a surprise,

19:41.640 --> 19:43.640
because I never know what you're
going to play.

19:43.640 --> 19:44.640
Well, I'll tell you what we're
going to play.

19:44.640 --> 19:46.640
No, I'll tell you what we're
going to play.

19:46.640 --> 19:47.640
No, I won't.

19:47.640 --> 19:49.640
No, it proudly presents.

19:49.640 --> 19:50.640
Let's talk about that.

19:50.640 --> 19:51.640
All right.

19:51.640 --> 19:52.640
Yeah, okay.

19:52.640 --> 19:53.640
This is 1980.

19:53.640 --> 19:54.640
We skip a lot of records now.

19:54.640 --> 19:55.640
Yeah, we'll go back later.

19:55.640 --> 19:56.640
We skip a lot.

19:56.640 --> 19:57.640
We go back and forward and
everything.

19:57.640 --> 19:58.640
Who gives a shit?

19:58.640 --> 19:59.640
Yeah, who gives a shit?

19:59.640 --> 20:00.640
Otherwise it's boring.

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Yeah, it's boring.

20:01.640 --> 20:02.640
Sure.

20:02.640 --> 20:03.640
I always keep telling you it's
boring,

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but you want me here.

20:04.640 --> 20:05.640
All the 50s and 60s shit, you
know.

20:05.640 --> 20:06.640
Yeah.

20:06.640 --> 20:07.640
It can only take so much.

20:07.640 --> 20:10.640
So in the, what was it?

20:10.640 --> 20:11.640
The 80s?

20:11.640 --> 20:12.640
83.

20:12.640 --> 20:13.640
No, no, no.

20:13.640 --> 20:15.640
I did the Stars on 45.

20:15.640 --> 20:16.640
Oh, okay, 1980.

20:16.640 --> 20:18.640
There was this Stars on 45.

20:18.640 --> 20:19.640
Mania.

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Mania, yeah.

20:21.640 --> 20:22.640
Became a big hit.

20:22.640 --> 20:23.640
It was, the producer was, yeah.

20:23.640 --> 20:24.640
Wait a minute.

20:24.640 --> 20:26.640
I have a piece of that probably.

20:26.640 --> 20:28.640
Everybody will recognize it.

20:28.640 --> 20:30.640
It was a worldwide hit.

20:30.640 --> 20:31.640
What is it?

20:31.640 --> 20:33.640
Do they call it a compilation?

20:33.640 --> 20:34.640
Compilation.

20:34.640 --> 20:36.640
It was the Beatles.

20:36.640 --> 20:37.640
That was, that's what started
it.

20:37.640 --> 20:40.640
There was a DJ who mixed a whole
bunch of Beatles songs together.

20:40.640 --> 20:41.640
Yeah.

20:41.640 --> 20:43.640
One clap, one clapping rhythm.

20:43.640 --> 20:44.640
Exactly.

20:44.640 --> 20:45.640
And then Jaap Echemond.

20:45.640 --> 20:47.640
It became a sort of disco thing.

20:47.640 --> 20:51.640
And then all the famous songs
that you know from the Beatles,

20:51.640 --> 20:53.640
from ABBA, from...

20:53.640 --> 20:56.640
And this all came from this one
guy, Jaap Echemond,

20:56.640 --> 20:59.640
who was the king of remakes.

20:59.640 --> 21:00.640
Yeah.

21:00.640 --> 21:01.640
In fact, he did a hit.

21:01.640 --> 21:05.640
Remakes and actually what he was
very good at is,

21:05.640 --> 21:07.640
because in these days you did
that,

21:07.640 --> 21:10.640
was making a cover version.

21:10.640 --> 21:11.640
A cover version.

21:11.640 --> 21:12.640
Yeah.

21:12.640 --> 21:16.640
Sort of rip off that actually
sounded exactly the same.

21:16.640 --> 21:17.640
Why did you do that?

21:17.640 --> 21:18.640
For the money?

21:18.640 --> 21:19.640
I don't know.

21:19.640 --> 21:20.640
Must have been for the money.

21:20.640 --> 21:21.640
Well, no.

21:21.640 --> 21:25.640
They made those albums where you
got all 13 rights,

21:25.640 --> 21:27.640
but actually they were all 13
wrong.

21:27.640 --> 21:28.640
Right.

21:28.640 --> 21:29.640
This is before they could clear
the rights to stuff.

21:29.640 --> 21:30.640
Exactly.

21:30.640 --> 21:31.640
Because you had no fax machines
and shit like that.

21:31.640 --> 21:33.640
So you got all the hits on one
album,

21:33.640 --> 21:34.640
but they weren't the real ones.

21:34.640 --> 21:35.640
Right.

21:35.640 --> 21:36.640
So it sounded like the Rolling
Stones.

21:36.640 --> 21:37.640
It sounded like it.

21:37.640 --> 21:38.640
Oh, okay.

21:38.640 --> 21:39.640
I remember those.

21:39.640 --> 21:40.640
The Black Tulip Records.

21:40.640 --> 21:41.640
I had some of those.

21:41.640 --> 21:42.640
Jack Jersey did all that shit.

21:42.640 --> 21:43.640
Cover, cover things.

21:43.640 --> 21:44.640
Yeah.

21:44.640 --> 21:45.640
Okay.

21:45.640 --> 21:46.640
Right.

21:46.640 --> 21:48.640
So anyway, so he had already
done this Beatles stuff.

21:48.640 --> 21:50.640
So he did the Beatles.

21:50.640 --> 21:57.640
We've got a whole compilation
album with ABBA,

21:57.640 --> 21:59.640
Supremes, everything on it.

21:59.640 --> 22:01.640
And I already helped him with
that.

22:01.640 --> 22:02.640
Right.

22:02.640 --> 22:04.640
Because I was actually one of
those backup singers

22:04.640 --> 22:06.640
that you can use for everything.

22:06.640 --> 22:07.640
Yeah.

22:07.640 --> 22:08.640
Let's do a little piece of the
ABBA.

22:08.640 --> 22:09.640
Just to get the idea.

22:09.640 --> 22:10.640
Yeah, we did the ABBA.

22:10.640 --> 22:11.640
I did the Supremes.

22:11.640 --> 22:12.640
Yeah.

22:12.640 --> 22:13.640
Yeah.

22:13.640 --> 22:17.640
So this is you and Yvonne,
right?

22:17.640 --> 22:18.640
Doing ABBA.

22:18.640 --> 22:21.640
Doing ABBA and a couple other
girls.

22:21.640 --> 22:23.640
So far you're doing really good.

22:23.640 --> 22:24.640
Sounds just like ABBA.

22:24.640 --> 22:25.640
Yeah, doesn't it?

22:25.640 --> 22:27.640
Anyway, Yvonne is my sister.

22:27.640 --> 22:28.640
Sorry.

22:28.640 --> 22:29.640
Here you go.

22:29.640 --> 22:40.640
That sounds good.

22:40.640 --> 22:43.640
Better than they are.

22:43.640 --> 22:46.640
Yeah, I've always used a couple
of girls.

22:46.640 --> 22:49.640
And he switched from one of the
girls to the other girl.

22:49.640 --> 22:52.640
You know, it depends on which
line was better

22:52.640 --> 22:54.640
from that girl or that girl.

22:54.640 --> 22:55.640
Right.

22:55.640 --> 22:57.640
And you did Stevie Wonder as
well?

22:57.640 --> 22:59.640
Did you do any Stevie Wonder
stuff?

22:59.640 --> 23:00.640
We had some.

23:00.640 --> 23:01.640
Well, I didn't do Stevie Wonder.

23:01.640 --> 23:03.640
No, but maybe some of the
backing vocals on those?

23:03.640 --> 23:06.640
Well, one of my bass player was
very good

23:06.640 --> 23:07.640
at copying other...

23:07.640 --> 23:08.640
Oh, he did Stevie, didn't he?

23:08.640 --> 23:09.640
He did Stevie, I guess.

23:09.640 --> 23:11.640
Yeah, that's his.

23:17.640 --> 23:18.640
Is that...

23:18.640 --> 23:19.640
That's Oki?

23:19.640 --> 23:21.640
I guess so, I don't know.

23:21.640 --> 23:23.640
It could be a black coyote also.

23:23.640 --> 23:24.640
Who knows?

23:24.640 --> 23:25.640
But...

23:25.640 --> 23:26.640
And what else have we did?

23:26.640 --> 23:27.640
We did Supremes.

23:27.640 --> 23:28.640
Supremes?

23:28.640 --> 23:29.640
Yeah.

23:29.640 --> 23:30.640
Hold on.

23:30.640 --> 23:31.640
You got a piece of the...

23:31.640 --> 23:32.640
A piece of the rock, baby?

23:32.640 --> 23:34.640
A piece of the Supremes tag?

23:34.640 --> 23:36.640
Hold on, let me see.

23:36.640 --> 23:37.640
Supremes.

23:37.640 --> 23:38.640
Stars on 45 Supremes.

23:38.640 --> 23:40.640
Yeah, hold on.

23:40.640 --> 23:41.640
Let's do it!

23:41.640 --> 23:42.640
Let's do it!

23:42.640 --> 23:43.640
Ah!

23:43.640 --> 23:44.640
Cool.

23:44.640 --> 23:45.640
Let's do it!

23:45.640 --> 23:46.640
Let's do it!

23:46.640 --> 23:49.640
So this is like the theme thing,

23:49.640 --> 23:50.640
the Stars on 45,

23:50.640 --> 23:52.640
that's all the records have
that, right?

23:52.640 --> 23:54.640
And these were million sellers.

23:55.640 --> 23:56.640
Unbelievable.

23:56.640 --> 23:59.640
I mean, it was just tens of
millions all over the world.

24:04.640 --> 24:05.640
That's not you.

24:05.640 --> 24:06.640
That's not me.

24:06.640 --> 24:07.640
No, that's shit.

24:07.640 --> 24:08.640
Who's that?

24:08.640 --> 24:10.640
No, no, it's Zoe.

24:10.640 --> 24:12.640
It's Zoe, one of the...

24:12.640 --> 24:14.640
Famous backup vocals.

24:14.640 --> 24:15.640
Sounds cheap.

24:16.640 --> 24:17.640
She's nice.

24:17.640 --> 24:18.640
She sings cool.

24:18.640 --> 24:19.640
Very cool.

24:19.640 --> 24:21.640
So where the hell is the
Supremes part?

24:21.640 --> 24:22.640
What is this?

24:22.640 --> 24:24.640
No, you're just telling me.

24:24.640 --> 24:25.640
Oh, after this.

24:25.640 --> 24:26.640
Oh, after this?

24:26.640 --> 24:27.640
Okay.

24:35.640 --> 24:36.640
The hell?

24:39.640 --> 24:40.640
Oh, here we go.

24:44.640 --> 24:45.640
That's it.

24:45.640 --> 24:46.640
That's pretty good.

24:53.640 --> 24:54.640
That's good.

25:00.640 --> 25:02.640
Little Diana Ross, you baby!

25:03.640 --> 25:04.640
Now this, of course,

25:04.640 --> 25:08.640
totally explains why you have
such an incredible gay
following.

25:08.640 --> 25:09.640
Yes.

25:09.640 --> 25:12.640
Man, do these boys love your
ass?

25:13.640 --> 25:14.640
So what happens?

25:14.640 --> 25:15.640
You know what happens?

25:15.640 --> 25:16.640
You know what happens?

25:16.640 --> 25:17.640
You know what happens?

25:17.640 --> 25:18.640
You know what happens?

25:18.640 --> 25:19.640
You know what happens?

25:19.640 --> 25:20.640
You know what happens?

25:21.640 --> 25:22.640
So what happens?

25:22.640 --> 25:24.640
You're like Diana and Barbara

25:24.640 --> 25:26.640
and everything all wrapped up
into one.

25:26.640 --> 25:27.640
I'm all in one.

25:27.640 --> 25:28.640
Yeah, I'm every woman.

25:28.640 --> 25:29.640
Yeah.

25:29.640 --> 25:31.640
I'm everything.

25:33.640 --> 25:35.640
Well, I have something to
confess.

25:36.640 --> 25:37.640
What?

25:37.640 --> 25:39.640
I'm just another gay boy.

25:39.640 --> 25:40.640
You're a big fan.

25:40.640 --> 25:41.640
Oh, this is cool.

25:41.640 --> 25:42.640
Listen to this.

25:47.640 --> 25:48.640
Do you remember that?

25:48.640 --> 25:49.640
I did that a couple of times.

25:49.640 --> 25:50.640
Yeah.

25:50.640 --> 25:51.640
Do you remember this?

25:51.640 --> 25:53.640
I performed on the coffee table
for you.

25:53.640 --> 25:54.640
The what?

25:54.640 --> 25:55.640
The coffee table.

25:55.640 --> 25:57.640
Yeah, with no clothes on.

25:59.640 --> 26:00.640
I'm listening.

26:01.640 --> 26:02.640
That's good.

26:06.640 --> 26:08.640
And that's Yvonne as well.

26:10.640 --> 26:13.640
I wonder if I have Yvonne's
records, actually.

26:13.640 --> 26:14.640
I don't know.

26:14.640 --> 26:15.640
Okay, so wait a minute.

26:15.640 --> 26:17.640
So anyway, so that was the
concept.

26:17.640 --> 26:18.640
That was...

26:18.640 --> 26:19.640
That was the concept.

26:19.640 --> 26:22.640
And these things were millions,
millions.

26:22.640 --> 26:23.640
It was crazy.

26:23.640 --> 26:27.640
Now, one evening, there was a
show on TV

26:27.640 --> 26:31.640
and somebody asked us, called us
up and said,

26:31.640 --> 26:34.640
we're doing this show about
famous families

26:34.640 --> 26:36.640
that can make music together.

26:36.640 --> 26:39.640
Now, we know that your dad and
your mom

26:39.640 --> 26:41.640
and your sister, everybody sings
and plays.

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But only for money.

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Did you mention that?

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Excuse me.

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Only for money.

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In this show, we've got a couple
of very famous people

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with their families and doing
something.

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I said, okay, we'll do
something.

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Celebrities coming to do
something.

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Famous families.

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Do you know what you want to do
together?

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And I said, well, we would love
to do

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a little bit of old-fashioned
Andrew sisters.

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Now, does anybody realize that
the Andrew sisters

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probably had the most fantastic
harmony

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in modern musical history?

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Little did we know.

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Little did we know how fucked up
that would be, right?

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Exactly.

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Because the Andrew sisters,
three sisters,

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they were very musical,

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but they didn't know what they
were doing.

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So they couldn't read any music.

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So all the vocals and the
harmonies that they did,

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they did it just from heart,

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whatever they came up with.

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Right.

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So they went, we called it
Bicycle.

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Bicycle, now how do you say
that?

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Fits it.

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Fits from the end.

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Bicycling.

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Bicycling.

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From one voice to the other
voice.

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Up and down the hills.

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That's what they did.

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Up and down, they went from the
third harmony

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to the second harmony to the
first to the lead.

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They did everything.

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It was just one big mess.

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Because now you're talking not
just singing,

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you're talking about musical
structure.

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Yeah.

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So it was one big mess.

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When we really listened to it
and said,

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what is she doing?

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Oh, she's going, oh my, now
she's singing the lead.

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Oh, now she's going to one of
the other harmonies.

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It was very hard.

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So it was kind of like people
who taught themselves to type?

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Exactly.

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Or people who taught themselves
to play the piano.

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You know, with the wrong fingers
going all over the place.

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So what we did, my father is a
very good musician.

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He figured everything out.

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And we did it on TV.

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With my mom.

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We said, ah, I'm not going to do
this.

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Mom, you're a great singer.

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You do it.

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So the three of us, there's my
mom in the middle.

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I do remember that.

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That was like, the whole country
was like,

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what the fuck is that?

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My mom in the middle, Yvonne
left.

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I'm standing on the right side.

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Was it live?

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And we were kicking my mom and,
you know,

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and nipping her in her butt
every time,

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you know, if she wants, had to
do something.

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Oh.

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And she was not used to looking,
you know,

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in the camera or, you know,
performing,

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although she has a nice voice.

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But she loved it.

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So we did that.

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And the next day.

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Wait, it was live?

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It was live?

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Or you'd recorded it.

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It was semi-live.

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So the band was already on the
tape.

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And so what'd you do?

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You did a couple of songs or one
song?

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It was one compilation.

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Right.

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A little bit like it became
later.

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That was your idea?

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It was my idea.

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Right.

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And so we did that.

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The next morning, the telephone
kept on ringing.

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Hollywood hotel.

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Yeah.

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Everybody loved it.

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One moment I connect you.

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Oh, can we, is there a record
from this?

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We want to buy it.

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And it's great.

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It's great.

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It's great.

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So then Jaap Echemont called me.

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That it's the producer from
Stars on 45.

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Can we do this?

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It's like this introverted
motherfucker.

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Wouldn't that be a great idea if
we do a Stars on 45 with it?

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Yeah.

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And I said, well, I haven't been
thinking about that.

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But yeah, we could talk about
that.

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And you said, by the way, Jaap,

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do you know that I only sing for
money?

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Stars on 45, dude.

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Well, you know, you have to say
that.

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Otherwise you get screwed.

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How many people are screwed?

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Because I never thought about
the money.

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Because everybody loves to sing.

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I took all your money.

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And want to be famous, but don't
think about the contracts.

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I took all your money.

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Yeah, you did.

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But then I gave it all back.

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You have all the bank accounts.

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You have all the money.

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Yes, I do.

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I have all your bank accounts.

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All in your name.

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In my name.

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So we did.

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And it was very hard.

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We really worked for nights and
nights and nights through the
nights.

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That's how we did these days.

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Just nights and nights.

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And I had to sort of camouflage
my voice to make a sort of a
Jewish sound.

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They all, they said a little bit
like the, yeah, they were
Jewish.

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And they had this Jewish.

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What is this?

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What's the difference?

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On the apple tree.

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Without anyone else but me, you
know, they were the one who
liked that.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah.

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And do that again.

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That's cool.

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Man, where are any ounce went
in?

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No, it's in your throat.

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It's in your throat.

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And I remember that I had pain.

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After a couple of days.

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I have really, I was very
painful.

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But then you get to have chicken
soup.

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And you made the really, and of
course, yeah, made a beautiful
sound.

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You know, he's, he's spinned it.

31:38.640 --> 31:39.640
Yeah.

31:39.640 --> 31:40.640
Spinned it up.

31:40.640 --> 31:41.640
Yes, sped it up.

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Even thinner.

31:42.640 --> 31:44.640
And this was the days of analog.

31:44.640 --> 31:46.640
This was not computers.

31:46.640 --> 31:49.640
This was real 24 track overdub.

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Dub, dub, dub.

31:50.640 --> 31:56.640
All you had was, was you had
some reverb plates and
compression.

31:56.640 --> 31:59.640
But I have to say that my mom
said, I'm not going to do this.

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So my mom is out of the picture.

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It's only Yvonne and me.

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Because we thought it was a
joke.

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You know, we can do this.

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We will never be anything.

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I thought it was, it was fun to
do it.

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But you know, it was going to
like this.

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So Yvonne and I, I did the two
harmonies.

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The lead and the third one.

32:22.640 --> 32:28.640
And Yvonne did the second one
that is the lower one.

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So, and after a week we were
done and they released a single
and in about two weeks it was
number one in five countries at
the same time.

32:44.640 --> 32:45.640
Unbelievable.

32:45.640 --> 32:46.640
Yeah.

32:46.640 --> 32:48.640
There's another little side
story.

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Always when you're not looking.

32:49.640 --> 32:50.640
Yeah.

32:50.640 --> 32:51.640
That's what happens.

32:51.640 --> 32:52.640
That's what happens.

32:52.640 --> 32:54.640
There's a little side story to
this sidebar.

32:54.640 --> 32:55.640
Yeah.

32:55.640 --> 32:56.640
Cause.

32:57.640 --> 32:59.640
I was in.

32:59.640 --> 33:01.640
Why we were recording.

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You were recording the song.

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We have to explain that they
called it the star sisters
instead of the endo sisters.

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Right.

33:11.640 --> 33:12.640
Because it was the stars of 45.

33:12.640 --> 33:13.640
The star sisters.

33:13.640 --> 33:14.640
Right.

33:14.640 --> 33:18.640
So we were recording in the
studio in sound push in
Hilversum.

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Okay.

33:19.640 --> 33:23.640
And you were in studio one and I
was working at the pirate radio
station.

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I was 17.

33:25.640 --> 33:26.640
No, no, no.

33:26.640 --> 33:27.640
You were 19.

33:27.640 --> 33:28.640
No.

33:28.640 --> 33:29.640
18 or 19.

33:29.640 --> 33:30.640
No, no, no, no.

33:30.640 --> 33:31.640
That's young.

33:31.640 --> 33:32.640
Girlfriend.

33:32.640 --> 33:33.640
Jeez.

33:33.640 --> 33:34.640
1983.

33:34.640 --> 33:35.640
Yeah.

33:35.640 --> 33:36.640
Yeah.

33:36.640 --> 33:37.640
I was just, yeah.

33:37.640 --> 33:38.640
17.

33:38.640 --> 33:39.640
It happens.

33:39.640 --> 33:40.640
I was 17.

33:40.640 --> 33:41.640
That you were.

33:41.640 --> 33:42.640
Well, listen.

33:42.640 --> 33:44.640
I was there because I was doing,
I was doing an English American.

33:44.640 --> 33:46.640
I was an American DJ on its
pirate radio station.

33:46.640 --> 33:48.640
No, we didn't know what happened
there.

33:48.640 --> 33:49.640
No, we didn't know each other.

33:49.640 --> 33:50.640
Not at all.

33:50.640 --> 33:52.640
No, I was doing my own thing on
pirate radio.

33:52.640 --> 33:59.640
And there was some guys who
needed a porn movie to be
overdubbed because they had the
actor,

33:59.640 --> 34:01.640
was an English actor.

34:01.640 --> 34:02.640
Yeah.

34:02.640 --> 34:03.640
And he had.

34:03.640 --> 34:04.640
Who had the equipment.

34:04.640 --> 34:06.640
He had, the cock was right on
baby.

34:06.640 --> 34:07.640
Yeah, but not the voice.

34:07.640 --> 34:08.640
Right.

34:08.640 --> 34:09.640
Exactly.

34:09.640 --> 34:10.640
So they needed like this.

34:10.640 --> 34:12.640
He was supposed to play the
rough and tough detective guy.

34:12.640 --> 34:13.640
American guy.

34:13.640 --> 34:14.640
Right.

34:14.640 --> 34:17.640
So they, somehow they got to me
and I said, yeah, you know,
sure, no problem.

34:17.640 --> 34:21.080
And it was professional because
we were, obviously it was
because we were in, and it was
well

34:21.080 --> 34:22.080
funded by William Foncote.

34:22.080 --> 34:23.080
Yeah.

34:23.080 --> 34:24.080
It was, it was a real movie.

34:24.080 --> 34:25.080
Oh, the same boss.

34:25.080 --> 34:26.080
Yeah.

34:26.080 --> 34:28.080
That's why we were, we were
doing the overdubs in that
studio.

34:28.080 --> 34:29.080
Exactly.

34:29.080 --> 34:31.080
That's what he used it for all
his projects.

34:31.080 --> 34:32.080
Yeah.

34:32.080 --> 34:36.080
And so I was there doing the
overdubs for like three days in
a row.

34:36.080 --> 34:42.080
And it was stuff like, oh yeah,
baby, I'm, I'm from the city
health inspection.

34:42.080 --> 34:43.080
Yeah.

34:43.080 --> 34:45.080
And it was a lot of.

34:45.080 --> 34:47.080
I remember hearing that.

34:47.080 --> 34:48.080
Yeah.

34:48.080 --> 34:51.080
So we were having a drink and a
break.

34:51.080 --> 34:54.080
And I think what is going on in
the other studio?

34:54.080 --> 34:55.080
Oh yeah, baby.

34:55.080 --> 34:56.080
Hit it.

34:56.080 --> 34:57.080
Hit it right there.

34:57.080 --> 34:58.080
Touch my ass.

34:58.080 --> 34:59.080
Touch my balls.

34:59.080 --> 35:00.080
Yeah.

35:00.080 --> 35:01.080
That's a friend of yours.

35:01.080 --> 35:04.080
So I looked around and just
opened the door and I saw you.

35:04.080 --> 35:05.080
Right.

35:05.080 --> 35:06.080
And I was a little geeky zoid.

35:06.080 --> 35:11.080
A little, little ugly guy
sitting there and breathing and,
you know, and doing this

35:11.080 --> 35:12.080
thing.

35:12.080 --> 35:14.080
And I think we, we shook hands.

35:14.080 --> 35:17.080
No, no, I was like, um, I think
it was.

35:17.080 --> 35:18.080
That's how it was.

35:18.080 --> 35:21.080
I think, uh, yeah, introduced
us.

35:21.080 --> 35:22.080
Yeah.

35:22.080 --> 35:24.080
I was like, hello, who had it
with you?

35:24.080 --> 35:25.080
Hello.

35:25.080 --> 35:26.080
Hi.

35:26.080 --> 35:27.080
Yeah.

35:27.080 --> 35:29.080
And you, and you did like a
total star trip on me.

35:29.080 --> 35:30.080
Like, Hey baby.

35:30.080 --> 35:31.080
Hi.

35:31.080 --> 35:32.080
Nice.

35:32.080 --> 35:33.080
What are you doing?

35:33.080 --> 35:34.080
Very nice.

35:34.080 --> 35:35.080
Nice job you have.

35:35.080 --> 35:36.080
I was shattered.

35:36.080 --> 35:38.080
You pissed all over me.

35:38.080 --> 35:39.080
I was nobody.

35:39.080 --> 35:40.080
Okay.

35:40.080 --> 35:41.080
I was nobody.

35:41.080 --> 35:42.080
I was John Holden.

35:42.080 --> 35:43.080
Never saw each other again.

35:43.080 --> 35:44.080
For two years, three years.

35:44.080 --> 35:46.080
We didn't see each other at all.

35:46.080 --> 35:47.080
Okay.

35:47.080 --> 35:48.080
So two weeks later.

35:48.080 --> 35:49.080
I left.

35:49.080 --> 35:50.080
Yeah, you left.

35:50.080 --> 35:51.080
No, you left.

35:51.080 --> 35:53.080
And like maybe two weeks later,
I got a call in the middle of
the night.

35:53.080 --> 35:54.080
Yeah.

35:54.080 --> 35:55.080
I didn't know anything about
this.

35:55.080 --> 35:56.080
No.

35:56.080 --> 35:59.080
I was still living at home, but
I had my own phone number in my
own phone line.

35:59.080 --> 36:00.080
And it was Yop.

36:00.080 --> 36:02.080
And he said, Oh, Adam, can you
come over?

36:02.080 --> 36:03.080
I got something to do.

36:03.080 --> 36:04.080
And he was like really weird.

36:04.080 --> 36:05.080
Right.

36:05.080 --> 36:06.080
That's how he talked.

36:06.080 --> 36:07.080
Do this and that sound.

36:07.080 --> 36:08.080
We need an American voice.

36:08.080 --> 36:09.080
Yeah.

36:09.080 --> 36:10.080
Yeah.

36:10.080 --> 36:11.080
Yeah.

36:11.080 --> 36:12.080
The old fashioned thing.

36:12.080 --> 36:13.080
Yeah.

36:13.080 --> 36:14.080
So, um, I came to the studio.

36:14.080 --> 36:15.080
Yeah.

36:15.080 --> 36:16.080
I think my mom drove me.

36:16.080 --> 36:17.080
Yeah.

36:17.080 --> 36:18.080
Actually.

36:18.080 --> 36:19.080
And brought me to the studio.

36:19.080 --> 36:20.080
Brought me to the studio middle
of the night.

36:20.080 --> 36:23.080
And what he wanted is an old
time announcer voice.

36:23.080 --> 36:24.080
Yeah.

36:24.080 --> 36:30.080
Kind of like the 40s, 45, which
would be kind of like a war time

36:30.080 --> 36:31.080
announcer.

36:31.080 --> 36:32.080
Right.

36:32.080 --> 36:33.080
Something like that.

36:33.080 --> 36:34.080
But more and.

36:34.080 --> 36:35.080
And now.

36:35.080 --> 36:36.080
Right.

36:36.080 --> 36:37.080
Well, so actually I wrote that.

36:37.080 --> 36:39.080
So he needed these two pieces
and I actually wrote the lyrics

36:39.080 --> 36:40.080
and then he did his thing with.

36:40.080 --> 36:41.080
Now we were already home.

36:41.080 --> 36:42.080
You were gone.

36:42.080 --> 36:46.080
And this, this you have to, you
know, these producers, they, um,
they

36:46.080 --> 36:47.080
work through the night.

36:47.080 --> 36:49.080
They don't, they never go to
sleep.

36:49.080 --> 36:50.080
Snorting coke.

36:50.080 --> 36:53.080
You come the next day and he got
all sorts of things going on.

36:53.080 --> 36:54.080
Oh yeah.

36:54.080 --> 36:55.080
That you didn't hear.

36:55.080 --> 36:56.080
Always very surprising.

36:56.080 --> 36:57.080
Yeah.

36:57.080 --> 36:58.080
Sometimes.

36:58.080 --> 36:59.080
It's fun.

36:59.080 --> 37:00.080
Yeah.

37:00.080 --> 37:01.080
Right.

37:01.080 --> 37:02.080
Um, so anyway.

37:02.080 --> 37:06.080
So, um, I wrote these two, two
little lines, which I never got
paid for.

37:06.080 --> 37:07.080
That's why I wanted to
exaggerate that.

37:07.080 --> 37:08.080
You got me.

37:08.080 --> 37:09.080
Of course.

37:09.080 --> 37:11.080
No, it's crazy that the gold
record for this thing hangs on

37:11.080 --> 37:12.080
all now.

37:12.080 --> 37:13.080
It's fucking outrageous.

37:13.080 --> 37:16.080
The thing is it became a big
hit.

37:16.080 --> 37:17.080
And I'm a nine.

37:17.080 --> 37:19.080
Never seen, you know, in, in.

37:19.080 --> 37:21.080
We were destined for each other.

37:21.080 --> 37:22.080
We didn't even know.

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Then when we met again and there
was this thing was all over.

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And, you know, became hits and
everything.

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We started to talk to each
other.

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And actually we, uh, wait, hold
on.

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Let's play the damn record
already.

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Okay.

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No, no, no, no.

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Let's play the record.

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Let me finish the story.

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You're already going past it.

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I know.

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Okay.

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So no, no, no.

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So we met each other again and
we, we were, and you were
telling me

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about that you were the voice on
that record.

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Right.

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And I said, you were that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I didn't even know that.

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Yeah.

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I think so.

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So you told me there was a first
time I knew who this guy was.

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I thought it was an old guy in a
strange.

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So it was you and, uh, no, this
is, uh, well, we can play the

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whole thing.

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It's too long.

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What do you mean?

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It's four minutes.

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You will?

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What do you mean?

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We've been talking for, for half
an hour.

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Do you think maybe they want to
hear some music now?

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Okay.

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See, I'm always thinking people
don't want to hear it.

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Of course.

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People.

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I'm sure that for the past 10
minutes, people are sitting

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in their cars going play the
fucking record already.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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This is, uh, stars on 45 proudly
presents.

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Check it out, y'all.

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[ Music ]

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That was a great video.

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And I was really thinking there
was an old guy.

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Well, you got him, baby.

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I am your old guy.

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Um, so that, that, that song
took you around the world.

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Right?

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That was major.

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Major.

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Except, except in the US.

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Yeah.

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Couldn't crack that.

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No.

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Fuck that.

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Yeah.

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And we, we did a, uh, an
interview over the telephone
with one of the stations.

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Do you remember?

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I don't remember.

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We weren't hanging out then.

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Well, the problem was, see, we
were, um, in Europe, we were in
all the charts, but with

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Spendabelle, with, you know,
Paul Young, with, with, you
know, with just the normal songs

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that, you know, there were in,
in the chart.

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You were a specialist song.

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You were like a novelty.

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America said, we don't know
which station we can play it.

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Is it, is it that how fucked up?

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Yeah.

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It was just a nice song that
people liked.

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It didn't matter.

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It could have been on top 40
stations.

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No problem.

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Yeah.

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Because yeah, it was played in,
in, in.

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We played it on, uh, Decibo.

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In clubs and in discotheques and
still actually they played.

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And they had all kinds of
remixes and all kinds of cool
shit.

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Who cares?

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Music is music.

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Yeah.

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Don't make a problem out of
that.

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But then, you know.

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That's what Michael Jackson
said.

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Didn't crack America shit.

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Yeah.

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Does that frustrate you?

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Well, it was a chance to do
that.

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It's nice.

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Yeah.

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Just the idea.

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Yeah.

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You know, now I'm not thinking
about the money.

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Just, you know.

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Yeah.

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That you could do that.

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Right.

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But the funniest thing is that
the guys that you hear on this
recording, they were all young

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guys playing pop music normally.

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The guys from Delft?

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They had so much fun.

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The Pasadena Dream Band?

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Was that it?

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No, no, no, no.

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Didn't they play?

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They were their videos.

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They were really just rock
musicians.

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Oh, really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, wow.

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And they enjoyed it so much.

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Because, you know, there's so
much that we could talk about of
the stuff you'd done with

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Golden Earring, with Jan
Akraman.

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Yeah.

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Jan Akraman.

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Focus, Jan Akraman.

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Yeah.

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One of the best rock guitar
players.

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You know, I was wondering.

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I did a tour with him.

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Maybe I was at Smile.

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Is that?

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I wish I hope I have that.

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Smile?

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No.

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Come on.

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No, that's Yvonne.

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That's not me.

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What's papa, papa, papa?

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That's Yvonne.

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Really?

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Yeah, that's my sister.

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I always give you some credit
for that, too.

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No.

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But I did Joan Jett.

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Remember?

44:58.080 --> 45:01.080
I did a lot of vocal making
focus for the Joan Jett.

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I don't think I have those songs
on iTunes.

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In America.

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Yeah.

45:05.080 --> 45:06.080
Remember?

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Yeah.

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I actually couldn't sing.

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What?

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Remember, we went in the studio
and I had to dub, you know,
really, you know,

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sing her vocals.

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You remember that?

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I have no part of this.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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Yeah, you were there.

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Absolutely.

45:20.080 --> 45:22.080
You know, that was a weird time
because that was right around
when

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the San Francisco earthquake
hit.

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Yeah.

45:25.080 --> 45:27.080
That was really, that was messed
up.

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We did that.

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And what did, what else did we
do?

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I was wondering.

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When we lived in America, I did
some backing vocals.

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Oh, yeah.

45:33.080 --> 45:34.080
Well, Jack Ponti.

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Yeah.

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He sent me an email and he sent
me his phone number.

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We have to talk.

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Oh, that's nice.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You didn't do anything on Radar
Love, did you?

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Yeah.

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You did?

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No, not Radar Love.

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No, not Radar Love, but the
other one.

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No, I don't have any of that.

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Shoot.

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What was it on the other song
from Earring?

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I don't have any other Earring.

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Totally.

45:59.080 --> 46:00.080
Back home.

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Back home.

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Back home.

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See, we got to get some of your
older stuff because I have like
all this, you know, from

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like the same era, like the 80s,
but I don't have any of the 70s
or 60s stuff.

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And then we did, oh, and also
the album.

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And maybe I think your friend
has won the album that we did
in.

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With Alan Parsons?

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Yeah, Abbey Road and Abbey Road
Studios.

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How about Cold as Ice?

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All right.

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And these are the same.

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That's what I wanted to say.

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These are the same musicians
that played the Star Sister.

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Okay.

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Because this is a song that, it
was never a single, was it?

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I don't think it was a single.

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No, it's from an album from the
Star Sisters later.

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Yeah, your Danger album.

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Yeah.

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That was good.

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I liked that album.

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That was really good.

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We could play a couple of things
from that, but I think it's Cold
as Ice.

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That's just you, right?

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It's more you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

46:52.080 --> 46:53.080
Let me listen to that for a
second.

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I think I like that a lot.

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Yeah.

46:55.080 --> 46:58.080
I've made, I've made jingles and
promos out of that drum.

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Oh yeah?

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Yeah.

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It's cool.

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What are you saying?

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Okay.

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[ Music ]

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Cold as ice.

49:56.080 --> 50:00.080
Heart you handle, heart you
please.

50:00.080 --> 50:05.080
Heart you handle, heart you
please.

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Why didn't I say that?

50:35.080 --> 50:38.080
I probably went home after that.

50:38.080 --> 50:41.080
When they were mixing this.

50:41.080 --> 50:43.080
When they started to party,

50:43.080 --> 50:46.080
when they break out the coke and
the booze and the chicks.

50:46.080 --> 50:49.080
You must have done some of the
partying in the studio.

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No.

50:50.080 --> 50:51.080
No?

50:51.080 --> 50:52.080
You always went home?

50:52.080 --> 50:53.080
Yeah.

50:53.080 --> 50:55.080
You never had sex with anybody
on the mixing board?

50:55.080 --> 50:56.080
No.

50:56.080 --> 50:57.080
Under the mixing board?

50:57.080 --> 50:58.080
No.

50:58.080 --> 50:59.080
Not even with Yap?

50:59.080 --> 51:00.080
No.

51:00.080 --> 51:01.080
Way too proud for that.

51:01.080 --> 51:02.080
Yeah.

51:02.080 --> 51:03.080
What?

51:03.080 --> 51:04.080
Not even with Yap?

51:04.080 --> 51:05.080
Yap?

51:05.080 --> 51:06.080
Oh, disgusting.

51:06.080 --> 51:07.080
No.

51:07.080 --> 51:08.080
No, I wouldn't do that.

51:08.080 --> 51:09.080
No?

51:09.080 --> 51:10.080
No.

51:10.080 --> 51:12.080
Never with people that you work
with.

51:12.080 --> 51:13.080
Never.

51:13.080 --> 51:14.080
Oh, shit.

51:14.080 --> 51:16.080
Now she tells me.

51:16.080 --> 51:18.080
Okay.

51:18.080 --> 51:21.080
We're coming up on an hour.

51:21.080 --> 51:23.080
I think an hour is enough for
our first episode.

51:23.080 --> 51:24.080
I think so.

51:24.080 --> 51:27.080
People who have MP3, send them
to us.

51:27.080 --> 51:29.080
Because we can give you the
story behind the song,

51:29.080 --> 51:31.080
but you must have done a
thousand.

51:31.080 --> 51:32.080
Must have done a thousand songs.

51:32.080 --> 51:33.080
I think so.

51:33.080 --> 51:37.080
Here, choose one from this
wonderful Holland's Glory
compilation.

51:37.080 --> 51:38.080
I don't know.

51:38.080 --> 51:39.080
Holland's Glory.

51:39.080 --> 51:40.080
Okay.

51:40.080 --> 51:41.080
Someone's making money on that.

51:41.080 --> 51:42.080
Yeah, really.

51:42.080 --> 51:47.080
Every time there's a new CD
coming out with my name on it,

51:47.080 --> 51:49.080
and I don't even know what's on
it.

51:49.080 --> 51:51.080
And it just grabbed an old
picture.

51:51.080 --> 51:53.080
Yeah, and they put like 15
tracks.

51:53.080 --> 51:54.080
Boom.

51:54.080 --> 51:57.080
Probably just, you know, shaking
it.

51:57.080 --> 52:00.080
What do we put on it this time,
boys?

52:00.080 --> 52:03.080
But you know, you actually, you
do get paid royalties, you know.

52:03.080 --> 52:04.080
I guess so.

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No, you do.

52:05.080 --> 52:06.080
Do I?

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Yeah.

52:07.080 --> 52:08.080
Okay.

52:08.080 --> 52:11.080
I mean, it's vacation money.

52:11.080 --> 52:20.080
This is also the movie songs are
there.

52:20.080 --> 52:23.080
You like the dance stand looks.

52:23.080 --> 52:24.080
You love that.

52:24.080 --> 52:26.080
It's a little bit musical.

52:26.080 --> 52:28.080
See, that's my problem.

52:28.080 --> 52:33.080
I like a lot of sorts of music.

52:33.080 --> 52:35.080
And I think that's a problem.

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Yeah, because people can't put
you in a box.

52:37.080 --> 52:39.080
No, you should stay with one
thing.

52:39.080 --> 52:40.080
No.

52:40.080 --> 52:42.080
And I think I was, oh, I want to
try that.

52:42.080 --> 52:43.080
You're an artist.

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Or I want to see this.

52:44.080 --> 52:45.080
You're an artist.

52:45.080 --> 52:46.080
You're an artist.

52:46.080 --> 52:47.080
I wrote that myself.

52:47.080 --> 52:49.080
I wrote a lot of songs.

52:49.080 --> 52:50.080
Did you know that?

52:50.080 --> 52:51.080
Yeah.

52:51.080 --> 52:52.080
I know.

52:52.080 --> 52:55.080
You know, it's, you know, what
was a really, really.

52:55.080 --> 52:56.080
Hold on, hold on.

52:56.080 --> 52:57.080
Let me just.

52:57.080 --> 52:58.080
Big hit.

52:58.080 --> 52:59.080
Hold on one second, hon.

52:59.080 --> 53:00.080
Hold on.

53:00.080 --> 53:01.080
The delay was getting too crazy.

53:01.080 --> 53:02.080
Okay.

53:02.080 --> 53:07.080
You know, what I always like to
sing was, who's that lady with
my man?

53:07.080 --> 53:08.080
That was a big hit.

53:08.080 --> 53:10.080
Do I have that one?

53:10.080 --> 53:11.080
It went not number one.

53:11.080 --> 53:12.080
Yeah, I have that one.

53:12.080 --> 53:15.080
This one, but number two,
because Smokey was number one.

53:15.080 --> 53:16.080
Smokey?

53:16.080 --> 53:17.080
And didn't want to go.

53:17.080 --> 53:18.080
Living next door to Alice?

53:18.080 --> 53:19.080
Yes.

53:19.080 --> 53:20.080
Let's play that.

53:20.080 --> 53:23.080
And they just don't want to,
didn't want to leave.

53:23.080 --> 53:26.080
So I couldn't get on the number
one.

53:26.080 --> 53:27.080
Let's see if I have Smokey.

53:27.080 --> 53:28.080
Number two.

53:28.080 --> 53:29.080
I hate that.

53:29.080 --> 53:32.080
I've stumbling in.

53:32.080 --> 53:34.080
Another great Smokey hit.

53:34.080 --> 53:35.080
Yeah.

53:35.080 --> 53:37.080
So these were the guys that he
couldn't beat.

53:37.080 --> 53:38.080
I hated them.

53:38.080 --> 53:39.080
Yeah.

53:39.080 --> 53:43.080
I hated them because that's why
I never became number one with
that song.

53:43.080 --> 53:44.080
Not this song.

53:44.080 --> 53:46.080
No, not this song.

53:46.080 --> 53:48.080
Hold on.

53:48.080 --> 53:52.080
Now this is with Susie Quattro
together.

53:52.080 --> 53:53.080
Yeah.

53:53.080 --> 53:54.080
Okay.

53:54.080 --> 53:55.080
Hold on.

53:55.080 --> 53:56.080
Let me get you, baby.

53:56.080 --> 53:57.080
Really?

53:57.080 --> 53:58.080
That's the song you wrote.

53:58.080 --> 53:59.080
That's interesting.

53:59.080 --> 54:04.080
And remember that a couple of
years ago, they had a hit in
Holland suddenly.

54:04.080 --> 54:07.080
And they did this song, Alice.

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And did you remember that?

54:09.080 --> 54:12.080
Peter Coolewine did another
Alice song.

54:12.080 --> 54:13.080
Oh, no.

54:13.080 --> 54:14.080
I didn't know that.

54:14.080 --> 54:17.080
And then between the lines, they
said, who the fuck is Alice all
the time?

54:17.080 --> 54:20.080
Oh, it was like a rap thing, a
rap answer record?

54:20.080 --> 54:21.080
No, it was this.

54:21.080 --> 54:25.080
They sang the song and then only
filled it in with who the fuck
is Alice.

54:25.080 --> 54:26.080
Interesting.

54:26.080 --> 54:28.080
And that's what I said all the
time.

54:28.080 --> 54:29.080
Who the fuck is Alice?

54:29.080 --> 54:30.080
Who the fuck is Alice?

54:30.080 --> 54:31.080
She's number one.

54:31.080 --> 54:33.080
God damn it, I want to be number
one.

54:33.080 --> 54:34.080
Get the fuck off.

54:34.080 --> 54:35.080
Yeah, right.

54:35.080 --> 54:36.080
Okay, so who's that lady?

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That's what you want?

54:37.080 --> 54:38.080
Yeah.

54:38.080 --> 54:39.080
Really?

54:39.080 --> 54:40.080
That's really interesting.

54:40.080 --> 54:41.080
I like that song.

54:41.080 --> 54:42.080
Really?

54:42.080 --> 54:43.080
Okay.

54:43.080 --> 54:44.080
Cool.

54:44.080 --> 54:45.080
All right.

54:45.080 --> 54:50.080
That lady with my man, who can
she be?

54:50.080 --> 57:34.080
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57:34.080 --> 57:37.080
I'll be your lover

57:37.080 --> 57:42.080
Oh, tonight

58:00.080 --> 58:03.080
Oh, actually the producer and
the record company

58:03.080 --> 58:06.080
Well, it was a good commercial
idea, because he was hot, baby

58:06.080 --> 58:07.080
He had Baywatch going on

58:07.080 --> 58:09.080
With whom do you want to sing
this song?

58:09.080 --> 58:12.080
So, you know, I said all sorts
of wonderful singers

58:12.080 --> 58:14.080
And then I said, now, can't get
them

58:14.080 --> 58:17.080
But we can't, can't get them

58:17.080 --> 58:19.080
Who did you say, who did you
say?

58:19.080 --> 58:21.080
Oh, I remember, I don't remember

58:21.080 --> 58:23.080
I said, oh, maybe this and that
one

58:23.080 --> 58:25.080
And actually I wanted to have
Rod Stewart

58:25.080 --> 58:26.080
Yeah, of course

58:26.080 --> 58:28.080
And all this cool guys

58:28.080 --> 58:30.080
Excellent, yeah, and I said,
hold on

58:30.080 --> 58:32.080
Let me just call Mr. Stewart for
you

58:32.080 --> 58:35.080
Oh, no way

58:35.080 --> 58:37.080
Oh, no

58:37.080 --> 58:40.080
He's the uncoolest person you've
ever met

58:40.080 --> 58:42.080
And you said, of course, you
reminded yourself

58:42.080 --> 58:44.080
I only sing for money

58:44.080 --> 58:46.080
And I thought, well, you know,
it could, you know

58:46.080 --> 58:48.080
It could be a smash, it could

58:48.080 --> 58:50.080
Yeah, he was very hot then

58:50.080 --> 58:53.080
Not hot in the physical sense

58:53.080 --> 58:55.080
But he was happy

58:55.080 --> 58:57.080
He was big in Germany, you know

58:57.080 --> 59:02.080
He just had the awful it in
Germany

59:02.080 --> 59:05.080
He actually thinks he can sing

59:05.080 --> 59:08.080
So my producer goes with the
tape under his arm

59:08.080 --> 59:11.080
To the States, to LA

59:11.080 --> 59:13.080
So I didn't have to go, thank
God

59:13.080 --> 59:15.080
I didn't have to go

59:15.080 --> 59:18.080
So he sang it over there

59:18.080 --> 59:21.080
And my voice was already on it

59:21.080 --> 59:23.080
So I went to the studios

59:23.080 --> 59:25.080
No, no, no, your voice was later

59:25.080 --> 59:27.080
Did you just do a guide track?

59:27.080 --> 59:29.080
No, no, I was already on it

59:29.080 --> 59:31.080
No, I already sang a guide for
him, too

59:31.080 --> 59:33.080
So what song was this?

59:33.080 --> 59:35.080
Jennifer Warren's Bill Medley

59:35.080 --> 59:37.080
I've had the time of my life

59:37.080 --> 59:40.080
The time of my life

59:40.080 --> 59:43.080
That's the part that he had to
sing

59:43.080 --> 59:45.080
We thought that he was actually

59:45.080 --> 59:46.080
A singer

59:46.080 --> 59:48.080
Very nice singer

59:48.080 --> 59:50.080
My producer comes back and says

59:50.080 --> 59:54.080
This guy just sucks so bad

59:54.080 --> 59:56.080
He really sucks

59:56.080 --> 59:58.080
But the thing is, do you know
these guys

59:58.080 --> 01:00:01.080
Who think they are great singers

01:00:01.080 --> 01:00:03.080
Especially when they have their
headphones on

01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:05.080
And they're standing for the mic

01:00:05.080 --> 01:00:07.080
And they hear themselves and
they think

01:00:07.080 --> 01:00:09.080
Wow, it's so cool

01:00:09.080 --> 01:00:11.080
I'm such a great singer

01:00:11.080 --> 01:00:15.080
You just described every
podcaster in the universe

01:00:15.080 --> 01:00:18.080
I sound really good, don't I?

01:00:18.080 --> 01:00:20.080
We do hear that now and then

01:00:20.080 --> 01:00:21.080
So he was a

01:00:21.080 --> 01:00:22.080
No

01:00:22.080 --> 01:00:25.080
And he really loved himself

01:00:25.080 --> 01:00:27.080
He really thought it was cool

01:00:27.080 --> 01:00:31.080
And my producer said it was so
off-key

01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:34.080
It was so bad that they just
started to say

01:00:34.080 --> 01:00:36.080
Okay, this is fine

01:00:36.080 --> 01:00:38.080
You can go, this is great

01:00:38.080 --> 01:00:40.080
We've got it, we've got it, it's
great

01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:44.080
And so they had to go through
the computer

01:00:44.080 --> 01:00:47.080
And got it all, you know, all
the notes

01:00:47.080 --> 01:00:50.080
Back to pull it up again

01:00:50.080 --> 01:00:52.080
Pull it down again

01:00:52.080 --> 01:00:54.080
And then the result is great

01:00:54.080 --> 01:00:58.080
But he thinks that he's so...

01:00:58.080 --> 01:01:00.080
That he's got it

01:01:00.080 --> 01:01:02.080
But it's so...

01:01:02.080 --> 01:01:04.080
And you still went ahead with
the project

01:01:04.080 --> 01:01:06.080
You're such a commercial whore

01:01:06.080 --> 01:01:09.080
Well, yeah, now we've got it a
bit right

01:01:09.080 --> 01:01:12.080
You can play a little bit of it,
you can hear it

01:01:12.080 --> 01:01:17.080
It does sound nice, but it sucks

01:01:18.080 --> 01:01:21.080
I'll leave the mic open, you can
comment

01:01:34.080 --> 01:01:36.080
See, that's me

01:01:36.080 --> 01:01:38.080
You're rocking out

01:01:44.080 --> 01:01:46.080
Oh man

01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:49.080
And he invited me

01:01:49.080 --> 01:01:51.080
He said she has to come over

01:01:51.080 --> 01:01:52.080
She's great

01:01:52.080 --> 01:01:54.080
I'm going to perform with her

01:01:54.080 --> 01:01:57.080
And maybe she can have a role in
Baywatch

01:01:57.080 --> 01:01:58.080
Baywatch

01:01:58.080 --> 01:02:00.080
Everybody could, you know, do
something in Baywatch

01:02:12.080 --> 01:02:14.080
Oh, they really fixed that up

01:02:14.080 --> 01:02:15.080
That sounds good

01:02:15.080 --> 01:02:16.080
Yeah

01:02:18.080 --> 01:02:19.080
Hey

01:02:22.080 --> 01:02:24.080
Just remember

01:02:33.080 --> 01:02:35.080
He sounds like Neil Diamond

01:02:35.080 --> 01:02:36.080
Yes, he does

01:02:36.080 --> 01:02:38.080
Yeah, he wishes

01:02:41.080 --> 01:02:43.080
And here we go

01:02:47.080 --> 01:02:49.080
Time of my life

01:02:49.080 --> 01:02:53.080
No, I've never felt this way
before

01:02:53.080 --> 01:02:54.080
He loved it

01:02:54.080 --> 01:02:56.080
Yes, I swear

01:02:56.080 --> 01:02:58.080
Of course, it's great

01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:03.080
And I owe it all to you

01:03:03.080 --> 01:03:05.080
You don't hear him anymore here

01:03:05.080 --> 01:03:07.080
Hey, what was that?

01:03:07.080 --> 01:03:08.080
He's coming

01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:09.080
Hey

01:03:09.080 --> 01:03:10.080
He just did a hey

01:03:10.080 --> 01:03:12.080
He's coming

01:03:12.080 --> 01:03:13.080
Another hey

01:03:13.080 --> 01:03:14.080
I think

01:03:14.080 --> 01:03:16.080
So we'll just let it go

01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:20.080
Don't be afraid to lose control

01:03:20.080 --> 01:03:22.080
Oh no

01:03:22.080 --> 01:03:23.080
Oh no

01:03:23.080 --> 01:03:25.080
I know it's in your mind

01:03:25.080 --> 01:03:26.080
When you say

01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:29.080
Stay with me tonight

01:03:29.080 --> 01:03:31.080
Stay with me

01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:33.080
And remember

01:03:33.080 --> 01:03:35.080
Remember

01:03:35.080 --> 01:03:38.080
Now you have to think that that
was totally OP

01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:40.080
Yeah, the computer totally fixed
it

01:03:40.080 --> 01:03:41.080
Yeah, that's cool

01:03:41.080 --> 01:03:43.080
You want more torture?

01:03:43.080 --> 01:03:44.080
That was enough

01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:45.080
Thank you very much

01:03:45.080 --> 01:03:47.080
Okay

01:03:47.080 --> 01:03:49.080
So we can end

01:03:49.080 --> 01:03:51.080
That was a good story

01:03:51.080 --> 01:03:53.080
That was great

01:03:53.080 --> 01:03:55.080
That could have been an
international hit

01:03:55.080 --> 01:03:57.080
It was already a hit

01:03:57.080 --> 01:03:59.080
Yeah, it was already a hit

01:03:59.080 --> 01:04:01.080
They didn't need this

01:04:01.080 --> 01:04:03.080
You know, I saw on CNN

01:04:03.080 --> 01:04:04.080
He was interviewed

01:04:04.080 --> 01:04:06.080
And he actually said that

01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:08.080
He felt he was partially
responsible

01:04:08.080 --> 01:04:10.080
For the Berlin Wall

01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:11.080
To come down

01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:12.080
I know

01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:13.080
He said because he was
performing

01:04:13.080 --> 01:04:15.080
Let Freedom Rock or whatever

01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:17.080
I think the Wall started to come
down

01:04:17.080 --> 01:04:18.080
And then he jumped on a plane

01:04:18.080 --> 01:04:20.080
He has Hoogmoets Waanzin

01:04:20.080 --> 01:04:21.080
Right on

01:04:21.080 --> 01:04:22.080
Translated

01:04:22.080 --> 01:04:25.080
The slurry source will translate
that

01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:26.080
There's a real podcast

01:04:26.080 --> 01:04:27.080
Called The Slurry Source

01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:28.080
Yeah

01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:29.080
Yeah, it's a Dutch podcast

01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:30.080
Yeah

01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:32.080
Hoogmoets Waanzin

01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:33.080
What is that?

01:04:33.080 --> 01:04:34.080
If you are

01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:35.080
High and mighty

01:04:35.080 --> 01:04:36.080
Yeah

01:04:36.080 --> 01:04:37.080
Yeah, he's nuts

01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:39.080
Overrated himself

01:04:39.080 --> 01:04:41.080
He's overestimating his position

01:04:41.080 --> 01:04:43.080
On the show business ladder

01:04:43.080 --> 01:04:45.080
That's for sure

01:04:45.080 --> 01:04:47.080
Okay, so we do this again

01:04:47.080 --> 01:04:48.080
With me sometime

01:04:48.080 --> 01:04:50.080
Oh yeah, there's so many stories

01:04:50.080 --> 01:04:51.080
You want to hear them?

01:04:51.080 --> 01:04:52.080
We'll keep them

01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:53.080
It's cool

01:04:53.080 --> 01:04:54.080
It'll be a podcast

01:04:54.080 --> 01:04:55.080
That you can keep forever

01:04:55.080 --> 01:04:56.080
Isn't that boring?

01:04:56.080 --> 01:04:58.080
The whole podcast about me?

01:04:58.080 --> 01:05:00.080
For some people

01:05:00.080 --> 01:05:02.080
But there's a fast forward

01:05:02.080 --> 01:05:04.080
So they'll just fast forward to
the music

01:05:04.080 --> 01:05:05.080
People don't want to listen to
music

01:05:05.080 --> 01:05:06.080
I think they do

01:05:06.080 --> 01:05:07.080
I think they like it

01:05:07.080 --> 01:05:08.080
Yeah

01:05:08.080 --> 01:05:10.080
So let's end this episode

01:05:10.080 --> 01:05:11.080
Of Triple P

01:05:11.080 --> 01:05:12.080
Alright

01:05:12.080 --> 01:05:13.080
What did you got there?

01:05:13.080 --> 01:05:14.080
What did you got there?

01:05:14.080 --> 01:05:15.080
See this is quite a surprise

01:05:15.080 --> 01:05:16.080
No, no, no, we'll do

01:05:16.080 --> 01:05:17.080
Dance 10 Looks 3

01:05:17.080 --> 01:05:18.080
Oh, alright

01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:19.080
I like that one

01:05:19.080 --> 01:05:20.080
What was this from?

01:05:20.080 --> 01:05:23.080
Well, I went to see the musical

01:05:23.080 --> 01:05:26.080
What was it, what I said?

01:05:26.080 --> 01:05:27.080
42nd Street

01:05:27.080 --> 01:05:29.080
No, no, no, no, no, no, no

01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:30.080
Chorus Line

01:05:30.080 --> 01:05:31.080
Chorus Line

01:05:31.080 --> 01:05:32.080
In London

01:05:32.080 --> 01:05:33.080
When was this?

01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:34.080
Quite impressive

01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:36.080
Very, very, very good

01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:37.080
When was this?

01:05:37.080 --> 01:05:38.080
Eighties?

01:05:38.080 --> 01:05:39.080
When?

01:05:39.080 --> 01:05:40.080
Seventies

01:05:40.080 --> 01:05:42.080
Also one of the albums

01:05:42.080 --> 01:05:47.080
And Jaap Echemont was still my
producer

01:05:47.080 --> 01:05:49.080
And he said

01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:51.080
Let's do something else on the
album

01:05:51.080 --> 01:05:53.080
Just surprise people

01:05:53.080 --> 01:05:54.080
Cool

01:05:54.080 --> 01:05:55.080
Yeah

01:05:55.080 --> 01:05:57.080
So I did this

01:05:57.080 --> 01:06:01.080
I did a couple pieces of musical
on TV

01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:04.080
We had shows that

01:06:04.080 --> 01:06:07.080
People would see little parts of
musicals

01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:08.080
And I did that

01:06:08.080 --> 01:06:12.080
And so I can do a sort of
musical voice

01:06:12.080 --> 01:06:13.080
If I have to

01:06:13.080 --> 01:06:15.080
So I thought it was nice to do
this

01:06:15.080 --> 01:06:17.080
So this podcast thing doesn't
work out

01:06:17.080 --> 01:06:19.080
You can still go to the theater

01:06:19.080 --> 01:06:21.080
And provide for your family

01:06:21.080 --> 01:06:23.080
Yeah, Jaap on the end

01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:24.080
Asked me a couple of times

01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:26.080
He's a big theater guy at all

01:06:26.080 --> 01:06:27.080
Yeah, but that's all

01:06:27.080 --> 01:06:28.080
It's hard work, man

01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:29.080
That's what I thought

01:06:29.080 --> 01:06:30.080
Hard fucking work

01:06:30.080 --> 01:06:31.080
You know, I'm lazy

01:06:31.080 --> 01:06:33.080
I'm too lazy for that

01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:34.080
You have to really work hard

01:06:34.080 --> 01:06:36.080
And you don't earn anything

01:06:36.080 --> 01:06:37.080
No, very little

01:06:37.080 --> 01:06:39.080
See, and in these days I had all
those hits

01:06:39.080 --> 01:06:41.080
So it was just so easy to

01:06:41.080 --> 01:06:43.080
I think you really have to work
your way up

01:06:43.080 --> 01:06:45.080
And then you get a musical built
around you

01:06:45.080 --> 01:06:46.080
As a star

01:06:46.080 --> 01:06:47.080
And you have to have a heart for
it

01:06:47.080 --> 01:06:49.080
You really have to have a
theater heart for it

01:06:49.080 --> 01:06:51.080
And as we know

01:06:51.080 --> 01:06:54.080
You only sing for real money,
baby

01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:57.080
She worked hard for the money

01:06:57.080 --> 01:06:58.080
All right, baby

01:06:58.080 --> 01:07:00.080
Okay, let's do this again some
time, okay?

01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:01.080
Okay

01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:02.080
Thank you very much

01:07:02.080 --> 01:07:03.080
Thank you for having me

01:07:03.080 --> 01:07:04.080
I love you

01:07:04.080 --> 01:07:05.080
Mr. Light

01:07:05.080 --> 01:07:06.080
I love you

01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:07.080
I love you too

01:07:07.080 --> 01:07:08.080
Okay

01:07:10.080 --> 01:07:12.080
But after a while I caught on

01:07:12.080 --> 01:07:14.080
I mean, I saw what they were
hiring

01:07:14.080 --> 01:07:16.080
And on a scale of ten

01:07:16.080 --> 01:07:18.080
They gave me

01:07:18.080 --> 01:07:20.080
For dance ten

01:07:20.080 --> 01:07:22.080
For looks three

01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:23.080
Well

01:07:23.080 --> 01:07:26.080
Dance ten looks three

01:07:26.080 --> 01:07:28.080
And I'm still on unemployment

01:07:28.080 --> 01:07:30.080
Dancing for my own enjoyment

01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:31.080
That ain't it, kid

01:07:31.080 --> 01:07:33.080
That ain't it, kid

01:07:33.080 --> 01:10:06.250
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