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Warning.

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The following podcast contains
extremely annoying geeky talk
about studio setups and mixing
gear.

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Yeah, we're off to a great start
there.

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Hey everybody, it's the day to
source code.

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It's Friday.

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Oh, man.

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Okay.

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I think that her maiden voyage
is going to turn out just fine.

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Well, I'll be just some levels
here.

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If you hadn't seen the picture
on curry.com yet,

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I got some new gear that I'm
testing out today on the source
code.

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Oh, okay.

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So besides the usual stuff, we
will be discussing the studio
setup.

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I can't believe I finally broke
down and did it.

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I went out to the music store
and I got everything I need to
create.

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More or less exactly the sound
and the connections between
different pieces of equipment
that

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I've wanted to do that I've been
trying to do on software on my
computer.

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I just went ahead and bought all
the outboard gear and I am
totally loving it.

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I hope the sound is starting to
come along there.

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So at this point, I again want
to warn you that I'll be talking
a lot.

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I'm particularly beginning about
these new boxes that I've
purchased and I set up

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and all the different pieces and
how they all fit together.

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But I also have a hit test
coming up.

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Something that was listed on
your pod safe, but I'm not quite
sure it is.

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It sounds more like a mashup.

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And I got another podcast to go
along.

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Listen to it together.

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Okay, let me just try one thing
here.

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First thing I want to do is
switch to the other microphone.

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So I did that almost seamlessly.

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Now you're on the live
microphone so I can get up and
walk around.

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And I need to go over to the
computer you see.

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So that doesn't sound too bad,
does it?

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Hold on a second.

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It makes back to the first mic.

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So that's the, this is the sure
the SM7.

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I'm not quite happy with the way
it sounds.

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It's a little high on the S6.

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Have you ever heard people who
speak like that when the S?

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And it keeps on singing.

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Isn't that annoying?

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It surely does bug the hell out
of me.

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Okay.

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Let's see if we can get this
going.

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When you grow up, let it hit
like a good boy out of.

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And your mama digs it shine a
perfect sun.

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Something different.

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Oh, the girls are seeming like
you.

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Because your pants are like you
don't fit in the pool out of
fun.

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[ Music ]

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Oops, sorry, that was a rather
abrupt fade out there.

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Oh, I was really digging that
too.

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From DJEarWorm.com,

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Scissors, Sisters, Beatles,
George Michael,

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A Reath of Franklin.

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It was almost like a mega mix,

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and a traditional mashup.

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Right, too.

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Okay, so let me tell you what
happened this morning.

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I went out, well, first of all,

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I dropped Christina off at
school,

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and then I went to Anderton's
Music Store in Guilford,

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which is just as you enter the
town,

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the road kind of a busy two-way
lane street,

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and I was able to pick up a cup
of coffee

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at the gas station just before
it

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because they don't open until
930.

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So I read the newspaper,

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didn't have the financial times,

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read the Guardian front to
cover,

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basically, waiting for the store
to open.

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And really nice guy, sales guy
named Andy,

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helped me out, and he knew what
podcasting was.

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And so I tried to explain to
him,

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you know, what I was looking to
do.

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And I'd purchase the,

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Con the Soundcraft Compact 6
Mixer,

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which I put in the show notes
for yesterday's daily source
code.

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So you can purchase that,

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and if you buy it,

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then I actually make 5.25%

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until I sell another 70 items,

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when I move up to 5.5%.

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But it's actually product those
movies,

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pretty interesting.

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So he already knew what gear I
had at home,

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and I told him, you know, what
mics I had.

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And basically, what I wanted,

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I wanted a preamp for the
microphone.

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So, you know, I can do a little
bit of effects.

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You know, I have a little bit of
the,

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I didn't put reverb on,

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I put just a very little faint
bit of,

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what is it?

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It's an echo plate actually.

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And a little bit of compression
on the microphone.

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And I don't know if it's too
much or not,

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I just can turn out once it's
all compressed to MP3.

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You know, it may sound horrible,

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but I've been working out all
day.

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And what happens, you know,

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as you're fiddling around with
sound,

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at a certain point,

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you just don't know what you're
hearing anymore.

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It's really hard.

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So let me see.

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And actually, as I move over to
the mixing board,

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I'll switch over to the second,

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the lavelier mic,

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which I have on,

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which I have here on a second
fader.

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Okay, so I'm in front of my 19
inch rack.

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One of those 19 inch tabletop
racks,

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to do the job,

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because I had two pieces of
gear,

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and I also had the M audio fire
wire box.

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So on the top,

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it's kind of a cheap thing,

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but it's a multi-effects,

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it's a TC electronic dual engine
processor,

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the M300, everybody.

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And so it has compression,

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which is running only on the
microphone,

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because I took an insert from
the mixer,

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so that's basically inserting it
into the line,

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before it goes into the
compression part.

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But after the mic preamp on this
other beautiful box

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that I bought,

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which is the TL audio, TLA,

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ivory series.

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This is the stereo valve
processor.

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And what that means is actually,

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it has tubes in it,

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and tubes were used before
transistors.

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And actually,

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it's getting harder for,

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to find the replacement tubes.

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I think Phillips and Holland
actually pretty much

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makes most of them at this
point.

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But most audio files swear by
the sound of two processing.

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So it's two units in one.

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It's four units in one.

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It has two channels,

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and it has a microphone preamp

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with a limiter.

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And then that's where I've put
the insert

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to go out to the effects
generator.

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After the microphone preamp,

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then it comes back,

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and then it goes through the
compressor,

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and then it goes through an
equalizer,

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which has a pre equalizer,

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and a main equalizer,

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and I have the two link together

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so that provides the stereo
output signal.

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And of course,

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I'm still recording on my very
trusty,

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I River IPF799,

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which is now also listed on
curry.com,

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and another fine piece of
equipment to buy.

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And I got some mic stands,

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which actually I'm struggling
with right now.

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Hold on a sec.

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So I'm back on the main
microphone,

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on the sure.

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Yeah, I got one of those really,

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you know, those boom mic stands,

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and I finally got a windscreen
for the microphone.

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So the piece,

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and I say Patricia Pi's podcast,

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it won't plop too much.

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That's saying for better, excuse
me,

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a little Dutch that slipped in,

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it's much better in any case
than it was.

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So hooking it all up was really
quite a feat,

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actually,

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just trying to figure out all
the routing

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in which wires go in wire,

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and Andy had drawn me a diagram,

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which came in really handy,

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handy,

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and he's diagram.

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And it's kind of worked out.

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I think there's a slight hum in
this microphone,

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though, excuse me.

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That's probably because I
haven't really cleaned up the
wires,

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yet Patricia's nagging me,

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and she's right, of course.

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Oh, and I got a second boom
microphone

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for the handheld that I had,

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and a windscreen for that.

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So Patricia and I can both sit
here and do,

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you know,

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we can do a PPP,

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triple P podcast,

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but with all the luxury that
you'd expect from,

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a studio that actually works and
everything all together,

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which includes like the
headphones,

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so I have a separate headphone
extension jack,

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and it's no longer with latency
or delay.

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Oh, by the way, I've also routed
one output from this mixer

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through the M audio fire wire
device,

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which goes into the, this is the
cool part,

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goes into the,

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my old laptop,

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which the screen doesn't work
anymore,

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but that's hooked up to the big
cinema display.

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So I have a monitor output,

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I'll turn it up now.

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It's delayed a little bit,

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because that's basically the
latency that I used to deal
with.

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That's the delay I used to have
on my headphones,

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when I was talking,

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and of course,

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the delay that most of you
recognize,

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if you're using garage band and
sound flower,

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and eventually this is the shit
that crops up,

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so,

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oh man, there's such a big,

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big hole in the software market,

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to create something that
actually works for us,

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but we're not quite there yet.

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Maybe it's hardware, I'm not
sure.

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Oh, and I also, by the way,

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a lot of people sent me
schematics and diagrams,

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and how to create a T-splitter
that I can plug my iPod,

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and my microphone into
simultaneously,

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without having the levels get
all messed up like they were.

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And basically I need to 10k own
resistors,

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and in order to box,

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I ordered the resistors,

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and I ordered the three and a
half inch jack,

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so it's going to be completely
cool.

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Of course,

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I'd already placed the order,

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and I realized that in order to
do stereo,

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I have to have four resistors,

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instead of the two that I
ordered,

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and I'm like, what kind of dork
am I?

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In ordering two fucking
resistors,

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at 50 cents a pop,

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I probably should've just gotten
a couple extra

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just for the hell of it.

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So anyway,

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back to the desktop,

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because you see,

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and I put a picture up on
curry.com,

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the laptop,

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which really has all my
production stuff on it,

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has my outline for the show,

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and the quick time player in
sequence,

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is to the right of the 19 inch
rack.

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Now, that's not very convenient
to sit,

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and do the show.

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So I opened up VNC.

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I don't know if you know what
VNC is,

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but it's basically,

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it's a cross-platform open
source application.

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There has many clients for all
different platforms,

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and you can control a desktop.

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So seeing is it's on the same
network,

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there's almost no delay in
dragging stuff around,

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and basically I've brought the
desktop

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on the power book that runs
everything up on my main screen
here,

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on the cinema display,

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and I'm just kind of controlling
it with the mouse over here.

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So it works.

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I have a setup that is almost
starting to look official.

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I feel kind of official too.

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Right on.

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Okay, so that's the new setup.

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Now let's move on.

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I want to talk about here.

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Oh, I got an email from Craig
Patchett,

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who said that recommends keeping
the eye river

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that's saying the device I used
to record my sound scene tours
on,

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and also now I'm using it as a
final end recorder.

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Keep it away from your cell
phone,

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while you're recording,

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he says his IFP795 got reset to
00.0020,

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20 minutes into a recording
yesterday,

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after some weird interference
with his phone,

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while the two were sitting next
to each other.

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Which is pretty frightening,

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and Craig and I mailed back and
forth a little bit more,

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and he said that actually the
recording was also lost,

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and this is something that seems
to happen more often.

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So when you're doing those sound
scene tours,

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and you're recording and put the
cell phone in the left pocket,

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put the eye river in the right
pocket,

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but that sounds kind of weird
though,

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that's not something that really
I guess should happen.

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But before warned, that's what's
going on.

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It's kind of fun in the UK
today.

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It's Red Nose Day,

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and I don't know if you've heard
of this.

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It's affiliated with Comic
Relief,

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oh, this is those birds.

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And not just on television,

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which really does drive it.

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They've been ramping up to this
day

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for the past couple weeks,

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and celebrities doing a version
of pop idols,

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and just everyone kind of really
good fun,

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and just everyone kind of
pitching in.

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You can tell that people are
really into it,

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and they're really surpassing
their boundaries

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of what they normally might do
on television

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because it is for a good cause,
and it's for kids.

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And you can purchase these red
noses

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at different stores, Saintsbury
is one,

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where we do a lot of our grocery
shopping,

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and people are wearing them.

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Right, you know, you drive by
the gas station,

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they might be wearing two red
antennae headset balls,

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kind of, you know, like the
Martian balls,

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whether it be red with red noses
on top,

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or that actually have a red
nose, or a red nose pin.

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And it's just really cool.

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And tonight is the big grand
finale.

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And I guess there's a big TV
show

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to go with that or whatever,

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and you still kind of get the
feel here

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when something, you know,

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a big Saturday night or Friday
night show

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is on the BBC, that a lot of
people are watching.

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Oh, shoot, what time is it?

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603. Oh, man. Oh, damn.

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Oh, Christina is, I just
remembered Christina's out,

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and she's not coming home until
later,

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in Patricia and I have dinner
reservations at 6.30.

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Okay, so I'll just be able to
make this before,

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oh, man, I gotta get dressed.

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I look like shit, I gotta be
here.

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Okay, well, then let me just
move on quickly

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to Michael Jackson, but
following the news.

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Man, I just want to say again,

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you know, what people are saying
is one thing

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and what the evidence will be is
another,

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and I still have a hard time
believing

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what's being suggested,

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and the press is just using this
and having a feel day,

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and is really, really, really
not giving you any information

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that I think is anywhere near
the truth,

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so we just really gotta be
careful.

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Tim, you know, more importantly,

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you know, let justice take its
course,

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which it will, I believe in the
justice system.

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It should also work for
entertainers like Michael
Jackson,

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but his life is tiring, you
know, right now,

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and I can feel a little bit of
his pain,

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and it's definitely, you know,

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it would give me a headache and
make me throw up

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all day too, believe me.

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But justice will take its
course,

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and you know, let's just lay off
a little bit

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on all the name calling, you
know,

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even just saying wacko, jacko,
which is so easy,

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you know, but there is a guy
behind that,

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and there is a family and
friends,

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and it does hurt, it really
does.

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So, backslash on rant.

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Now let's listen to a cool
little podcast

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I ran across the other day.

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Behind the scenes, February
14th, 2000,

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listen to the opening.

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We don't need no stinking
transmittance.

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Love that.

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It's behind the scenes,

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an inside look at what it takes

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to put together a podcast

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and make it work.

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Check it out.

19:48.000 --> 19:50.000
So basically, this is a podcast

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you want to subscribe to if
you're new to this scene.

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It's a great package,

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and welcome back.

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It's a great thing to request
for a 20 minute edition

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of Behind the Scenes.

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It's Monday, February 14th,
2005,

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and I have to tell you there is
no love

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in the air tonight, at least not
when it comes down to.

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And you'll have to listen to the
show to find out why.

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It's almost like the Craig
Patchett show,

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but that's okay.

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But that is a cool podcast.

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It's behind the scenes,

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and this was indeed the show
about the RIA.

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Listen to the next videos
talking about it.

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The legalities of music in
podcasts

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as you're going to find out over
the next

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20, 30, or who knows how many
minutes of this show.

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I have spent a lot of time this
week

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researching the legalities of
music in podcasts.

20:36.000 --> 20:37.000
You know what's cool?

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It's now I can really regulate
the volume

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of these podcasts and these
promos

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and the stuff comes in too hot
or too low.

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I can really crank it up.

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And the compressor does a lot of
work.

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So yeah, yeah, I'm totally
liking it.

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Okay, let's do this then.

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Let's get started.

20:51.000 --> 20:52.000
Let's get started.

20:52.000 --> 20:53.000
Let's get started.

20:53.000 --> 20:54.000
Let's get started.

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Thank you.

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I'm still a little bit tired for
the hit test.

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I mean, it's bright, right?

20:58.000 --> 20:59.000
I'm right.

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Hey Adam, pay Adam this is Craig
Shumaker

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from the Polymorphic podcast.

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Oh, okay, right.

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In order to keep you on your
toes,

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Yann and I come up with a twist
for the hit test for you.

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Uh-oh.

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As an alumni of Headbangers
Ball,

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you'll be able to recognize
these songs by their guitar
cell.

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Oh, no.

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Now it shouldn't be too hard as
they're all hair metal bands

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and they've charted with these
singles.

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I'm so scared.

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Number one.

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I don't know because our cell
is.

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Oh, no, no, no.

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Oh, man.

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Woo!

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It's definitely a Friday hit
test.

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But, uh...

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Number two.

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Where's Michael Butler when
you're here?

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Where's Michael Butler on?

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A number three.

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Yeah.

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Oh man, fuck good.

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Oh no way.

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Are you ready?

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Here's the answer.

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No, no, no, no.

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Number one.

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Straight.

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I'm gonna turn it down.

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I want to hear it right now.

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Okay, I didn't.

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Let's pretend I didn't hear
anything.

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Oh my, second.

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Um, like, I was moving my
windows around

22:18.000 --> 22:20.000
through the VNC connection and
got really slow

22:20.000 --> 22:23.500
I'm really slow and I'm like
trying to stop the hit test from
playing and it won't stop.

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But now I've got my Skype window
just, okay, here we go, stop.

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Good, I see that Michael butt
goes online.

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Let's see if we can get him on
the Skype, he'll be able to do
this.

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I know he will, hold on.

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I've got to hit this button here
so that my microphone will play
through to him, hold on.

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Come on buddy, be home.

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Skype says he's there.

22:53.000 --> 22:54.000
Come on.

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I need him now.

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You know, I gotta say I'm the
guy that always has my Skype on
a way.

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Even though I'm here, I just sit
here clicking windows, closed
and rejecting them.

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Ah, he's out there.

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Ah, shoes.

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That's a bummer.

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Oh man.

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Okay, you know what, I'm gonna
keep it though.

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I'm not gonna play this hit
test.

23:33.500 --> 23:35.500
I want to keep that one from
Michael Butler.

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I want to do that with him.

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Let's play this kind of weird
mashup that I found instead.

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So more hit test after the
weekend and we'll do it with
Michael Butler.

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I know time

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So my favorite movie of all
times Willy Wonka's Charlie and
the chocolate factory.

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Oh, I love that movie.

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Okay, so I gotta go because
there you go.

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I'm getting Skype from
downstairs now.

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I have to shave, I have to do my
hair, which of course I'm taking
these long as it

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used to.

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Hold on, now it's Ron, hold on,
let me just tell him I'm going
out for, yeah, get a kick out

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of this.

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Oh, that's like, is that
working?

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Yeah.

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Hey, Ron, I'm recording the
show.

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Yeah, I just saw you nailing
with him.

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Like I'm recording you now.

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Hey.

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Okay, hey.

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So anyway, I gotta go out,
Patricia and I are having dinner
and we're having sushi

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so I gotta run, but, um, talk to
you later?

27:25.180 --> 27:31.260
Yeah, this makes sure you get
the cook stuff because, uh,
something fishy about it.

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Okay, my mom.

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Okay, I'm a lot of goto.

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Talk to you later.

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Bye.

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Okay.

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Oh, shit, I could have done the,
the test with him too, with the
rocks on his ass shit,

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whatever.

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Okay.

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Dude, I, I, I do, and do that.

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I promise you, I will, uh, hold
on, see, do you hear that I'm
getting Skype messages

27:52.340 --> 27:53.340
now?

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It's distracting me.

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I should shut Skype off.

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I'm doing this, really.

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I promise you, over the weekend,
I'll get a hold of Michael, uh,
Butler, Rock and

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Will Geek, and we'll definitely
get him to do the hit test
because that's should

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that'll be a, uh, who would, I
mean, I'll never know, but he
should certainly know

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at least some of them, right?

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So that's it for the source
code, little shorter than
normal.

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I'll work on the door.

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But only by 11 or 12 minutes.

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Comments at amcurry.com.

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Send a promo there as well if
you're showed you want to.

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Yeah, my got to do that too.

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I got to fix the 350 back at
gmail.com.

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Um, or leave a comment on my
weblog www.curry.com.

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As always, the latest show in
the archives can be found at
DailySource.

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sourcecode.com.

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That's also where you will find
the podcast fee.

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That's it.

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I'll talk to you over the
weekend for sure.

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Take care.

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Bye.

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