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Transmators, we don't need no
stinking transmittance.

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Augustine, it's Adam Curry.

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Hey, it is the 14th of March.

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The power of the Lord.

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Everybody, how you doing?
Welcome to the Daily Source
Code.

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Coming to you from Curry
Cottage.

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And pretty much a typical gray
English day.

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A little bit of sunshine over
this morning.

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Not enough to classify it as
anything really nice.

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It's a start of a new week.

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And it feels like that week
really started yesterday.

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Lots of exciting stuff to talk
about.

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If you may be heard about the
new stuff that has been coming
out.

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I'm gonna start to talk a bit
about what we're doing and see
if we can get some of the usual
stuff in there.

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Special hit test today.

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Still haven't found Michael
Butler online at a time when I
could record that we could do
that.

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Heavy metal guitar solo hit
test.

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But I'll keep my eye on Skype.

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Before you go to the show, just
a little bit earlier.

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It's seven minutes past twelve.

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Normally I don't start until
like two or three in the
afternoon.

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But Patricia has wisely set me
up for dentist appointment at
215.

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wisely because she knows that if
she doesn't set it up, of course
I'll never go.

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Alrighty.

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Let's see.

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I'm kind of a slow start today.

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Actually.

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I'm just going to the tune
there.

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I'd rather slow start.

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Kristina although she got up
early this morning.

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I just couldn't, I couldn't
light a fire under her ass.

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Quick enough to get out the
door.

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So I got stuck in a lot of
traffic on the way to school.

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She was late and then everything
just kind of got delayed a
little bit.

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To start things off today, an
email from David Harvey.

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He's from Auckland, New Zealand
says.

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Listen to the daily source code
regularly.

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And he wanted me to say hi.

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I love this.

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It's a long distance dedication
everybody.

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Say hi to my friend Jared Rimer
who's in California.

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I got a lot of actually kind of
interesting where you would ask
me to say hi to your friend
Jared.

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You know, where on the internet
you could send that directly to
him.

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The radio used to be really
handy for stuff like that.

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But that's changed somewhat
anyway.

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David sent me a really cool
mashup that I wanted to play for
you.

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It's a green day and well,
you'll hear that with the other
song.

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It's a title Boulevard of Broken
Songs.

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[ Music ]

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Boulevard of Broken Songs.

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Excellent.

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Massive.

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Thanks to David Harvey for
sending that in.

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I've got some kind of...

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I don't know, some kind of...

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Fucking hell.

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My microphone again.

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I don't know what that is.

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If I seem to turn up the second
mic, then the home goes away,
and then you hear the birds
more.

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So...

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I'll just leave it at that.

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That's perfect.

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You know, I get a lot of email
about these mashups, and I've
got to be honest.

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Your people always ask me, oh,
can you send me this mashup?

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Can you send me that one?

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I can't.

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I mean, first of all, from a
technical standpoint, this is
going to become a problem pretty
soon.

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You know, these mashups, it's
just not going to be possible to
listen to them together.

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And already what I'm doing is,
if I get a minute, I trash him
right after I'm done.

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I mean, it's...

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It's just like a piece of free
flowing form art, you know, that
I don't...

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I don't think that you'll go
back and listen to a mashup ten
years from now and say,

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Oh, you know, I remember exactly
what I heard that mashup, you
know, because it's probably a...

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It's a combination of the songs
that makes it work.

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And I think it's just like a
temporary art form, which just
flows and, you know, it just...

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It kind of is.

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That make any sense?

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Dig it though, especially that
one.

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I have...

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I'm really building up a
treasure trove of stuff that I
have yet to play for you.

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And as I was...

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I actually had some...

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A lot of time over the weekend
to do stuff.

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We got out of Triple P podcast,
Patricia Pie Podcast, which was
a lot of fun.

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And I hope everyone likes it as
much as the first one.

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And as much as we enjoy doing
it, and it really is quite
enjoyable.

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And in fact, there's something
about kind of being in an
interview situation with your
spouse that...

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It's...

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Oh, it's cool.

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Now I can understand Dawn and
Drew even a little bit better,
perhaps.

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And I have to say, whenever we
do a Triple P podcast and so
far, you know, batting a hundred
there,

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we always have great sex right
after the show.

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Hi, I'm Michael Gohegan, the
host of Real Reviews, films
worth watching.

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Now that Real Reviews is
available to you on the DVD,
Talk Radio Network.

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I wanted to put together short
introduction, tell you a little
bit about Real Reviews and what
you can expect from the show.

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Real Reviews was the first movie
review, commentary and
discussion show available on the
internet via podcast.

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And we've been really fortunate
to have become one of the top
rated podcasts that are
available.

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We now want to work to bring
that same commitment to quality
content to you, the listener at
DVD, Talk Radio.

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In each podcast, I'll discuss
one film that's available on
DVD.

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Now as the tagline suggests,
these are films worth watching.

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However, there's no boring
academic talk here.

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We'll talk a little bit about
how the film was made, maybe
some of the historical context
behind how it was put together,

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the people involved, and a basic
outline of the story.

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However, I worked very hard to
make sure that I don't give away
any spoilers.

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In some cases, these are films
that you've seen before,
hopefully I'll encourage you to
see them again.

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In other cases, they're films
that maybe you've never seen,
and you'll get the opportunity
to watch great film for the
first time.

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So if you love movies, you
should be listening to real
reviews, films worth watching.

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Now available to you on the DVD,
Talk Radio Network.

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That's Michael Gohagan, who's
been podcasting since the word
was invented with real reviews.

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And what I really like about
Michael Gohagan is he's an
entrepreneur.

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He's like, he's always chasing,
I guess for lack of a better
term, we'd call the American
dream.

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But he really is, I think he
runs a, I can insurance services
company or something.

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He's successful.

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And he's just really picked this
up, and I could, I could, I met
him out in San Francisco.

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And I could really tell that
here's a guy who's going to
really jump into this and really
go head first.

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If he sees that there's an
opportunity for doing business.

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And clearly, there is.

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He's doing syndicated deals now
with the DVD talk with Radio,
and it's cool.

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I'm very, very happy to see
that.

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Now, over the weekend, we
launched, and we is a Boku
communications, B-O-K-U with
little funny slashes on top of
the O and the U.

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We launched podshow.com, and so
immediately some questions
sprung up.

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First of all, what the hell is
this? What's going on? Why does
it look like you're selling
soap?

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Actually, there's something that
Ron Blum and I have been
thinking about for many months
and working on quite hard.

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During that, during that time
period is really, how can we
bring together the three real
elements that are necessary to
create a marketplace?

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And, and what's been happening
on the internet, what's been
happening with podcasting is
kind of automatically push me in
that direction without me.

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I really even even realizing
100% of myself, I think.

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Let's see, where should we
start? Let's start with making
it easier to find podcasts and
receive podcasts.

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Now, there's a lot going on in
search. There's a lot of people
looking to set up specific
podcast searches.

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There's many directories,
podcast alley, of course, is a
great place to go find top rated
content, which is based on
voting.

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We need to work on the voting a
little bit. I'd much rather have
an opportunity to vote more than
once a month, but even so,

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this is where the community goes
and tells each other about the
cool, excuse me, about the cool
podcast.

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There's also ipodder.org, and
ipodder.org is one of the things
that I really want to work on,
not necessarily ipodder.org by
itself, but the directory.

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The directory at ipodder.org now
contains, as of this morning,
4,08 podcast that it's tracking
actively.

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As you can tell, it's really,
it's not much of a site. It's a
category listing. You can go
into the category and it gives
you the XML fee.

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It doesn't give a link to the
site. It just gives you an XML
fee for each of the podcasts.

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Now, the whole reason, well, let
me start backwards. The reason
why that site was just kind of a
bunch of RSS or podcast feed
links is because it was really
built from the bottom up, the
bottom being the opml structure.

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If you don't know what opml is,
please take a look at opml.org.
You can see there are all kinds
of links to information about it
from ipodder.org.

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What's cool about opml is you
can create distributed
directories.

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I maintain this top level node,
or what I call my top level, at
ipodder.org, and that's where
you see this whole list ranging
from agriculture down to wine or
women, I think, is the last one
on the list.

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Literally the way I maintain
that, and of course I've built
some tools over time, but it's
just an outliner.

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You probably see an outliner,
maybe you know how to outline
from school, and maybe you've
used Microsoft Word as an
outliner.

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I use Frontier, which is like a
full version of radio user land,
and what's cool about it is,
when someone else maintains a
node, so for instance, the,
let's see, science fiction, node
is being maintained by someone
else.

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All they do is they create their
own opml file, their own outline
of the links that belong in that
category, and they send me a URL
to that opml file, which I
literally just copy and paste
in, and then all of a sudden
when you go to the web version,
you click on what the link that
I've now created, and literally
is a link, it's just it's
rendering on my server into a
new page when you go to science
fiction.

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It'll, you know, bring up the
nice, you know, the little world
icons, and all the links as put
in by the person maintaining
that directory.

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So what's great about this is
you can really build this
directory extremely quickly, and
the content that's in there is
of high quality because it's not
an automated decision making
process.

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You know, you have to actually,
when you want to suggest a link,
you do that through the suggest
a link feature, and then an
email is sent to the category or
node editor, and they decide if
they're going to put that in.

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And of course, they're also out
actively looking for new, new
podcasts to be put into their
particular node, and a podcast
can be in multiple nodes,
obviously.

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So what's great about that
system is that the category
editors essentially own their
own data.

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It's theirs, you know, if they
decide to change something, they
can change it, I can't stop it.

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If they decide to go away, then
they can just stop updating, you
know, it's literally that simple
or remove the file.

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So it's, although I've been
providing the central resource,
everyone has has their own data
built up which belongs to them.

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None of it is stored except
maybe for a cash stored on
iPod.org.

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So to make it easier through
podshow.com, we are creating
basically the definitive
directory.

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This is where we want to have
all the stuff in there.

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You want to have the great
search, you want to have the
great categorization, you want
to have the voting systems, and
we've been talking to multiple
people about that.

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The category editors, and I
couldn't have been dropped more
hints, you know, throughout the
past couple of weeks.

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Like, hey, you know, jump on if
you want to be a category or
node editor.

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The way it is, I pired out of
org, you know, it's nothing's
really going to change there.

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We just gave it a little bit of
facelift and quite honestly, no
one's really happy with the
facelift, but it's better than
what it was.

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And we've been streamlining some
stuff and doing some static
rendering on the directory
because it gets hit really,
really hard.

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That's still going to remain the
central resource, and we make
the output of the entire
directory available for anyone
to do anything with that they
want.

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You know, it's there for you to
build applications upon, et
cetera.

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And that's linked from the XML
icon on any of the directory
pages.

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So what's cool about this new
world of business is that you
can only compete on quality and
speed the market, I guess.

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So every single one of the node
editors are going to receive an
invitation to participate in a
way to actually make money at
what they're doing.

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Because there's many marketing
and advertising opportunities
when you have such a wonderful
resource to use.

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And I guess anyone could
essentially copy this idea,
idea, and do the same thing.

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I mean, it's no, no big secret
here, which is what I like about
this, you know, again, it's
really down to quality and speed
to market.

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There will be new tools to
maintain category nodes with.

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There will be ways for you to
participate in revenue
opportunities or bring some of
your own in.

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I mean, it's really going to be
a complete open forum for
everybody to join in.

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And that's one of the things
that makes me really excited
about about this new venture and
about the first thing we're
doing, which is podshow.com.

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Boss, excuse me.

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I don't know about this new
stance.

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If this is going to work, I'm
sitting down behind the desk.

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And it gives me, gives me gas.

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What can I say?

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Hey Adam, it's Rob from podcast
NYC and I just wanted to say you
tortured me all those years when
you were on Z100.

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But now I'm starting to feel a
little nostalgic.

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And I'm glad that you're back
with your daily source code.

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I want to thank you for that.

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I also want to talk about my
podcast at podcast NYC.net.

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It's actually more than a
podcast.

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It's actually five channels of
podcast feeds.

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I've got my pop culture rant
where I rip and ran on culture
in the United States of America.

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I've got Ali Cuts, a new music
program where I feature a new
band every week.

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I've got podsafe music where you
can download MP3s.

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I've got my audio book.

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Welcome to the BI.

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It's a business advice book and
I'm posting one chapter a week.

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And then last but not least,
I've got New York Minute.

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The groundbreaking New York City
travel program.

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So please come to www.podcast
NYC.net and add them.

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I promise everyone's still going
to listen to the daily source
code.

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They'll just spend a little bit
more time at podcast NYC.

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Take it light and I'll see you
on the site.

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Oh yeah, everybody take it
light.

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I'll see you on the site.

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Yeah, right on.

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Oh boy.

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I see where was I?

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Podcasts.

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So obviously there is another
wise.

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We wouldn't have started this.

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There is a demand for from
podcasters to be able to make
money.

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And actually, I'm jumping ahead
kind of to advertisers.

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But let's say that even the top
podcast, including this one
right now,

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really don't have enough
critical mass to really sustain
any type of advertising model.

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Certainly not on what we call a
CPM, like a cost per thousand.

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And the M stands for meal in
this case.

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So we need a couple of
bootstraps to be put into place.

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And I guess I will jump over to
the advertiser Marker's part.

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That's the world that Ron and I
come from.

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And we really did a lot of work
talking to many people on
Madison Avenue.

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Big brands, companies that are
all in one way or the other.

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They're interested in basically
finding their audience.

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And they're realizing now much
more that the shotgun approach
is retracting a bit.

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And you know, if you're looking
for a particular audience, you
can,

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Well, when it comes to
podcasting,

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you can certainly listen to a
number of shows and already just
intuitively know what kind of
people

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listening to that show.

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But also there's just a lot more
information available.

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And there is a much closer loop
between listeners of podcasts or
audio based programming.

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Distributed in this fashion than
there is perhaps through
traditional radio outlets.

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And that audience, as we've
discussed before, is moving
away.

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They're not really listening to
the radio anymore.

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You know, the iPod and MP3
players is definitely where it's
at.

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So there's some bootstrapping
that's going to be done.

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And, you know, the first thing
that I really wanted to make
sure we did is made an
investment in the content.

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Because we've already, I can,
it's moving so fast.

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It feels like first it was
really cool just to have, you
know, this concept of audio,

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nugget showing up on your iPod
and MP3 player automatically.

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It's moved beyond that.

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Now people are really into the
content.

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I mean, I can tell, you know,
and it's, and I get just as much
email from people who subscribe
to the show

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and listen to it on a portable
player as, as do people just sit
there at their desk or at home
on the laptop.

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And when the new show arrives,
they click it and listen to it
right there.

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I mean, that's really moved much
faster than I anticipated.

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So we will be making investments
in a number of shows and
podcasters.

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Really to make sure that, you
know, that they can build and
won't be, you know, stuck in
this,

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in this kind of, in irons, if
you will, you know, where
there's just no wind.

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Because, you know, not quite
enough, you know, critical mass
to really make any money to even
quit half of the day job.

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And I'm an impatient
motherfucker, you know, I like
to move things along.

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So we've kind of figured that
out and, and how we can, and how
we can get a number of people
going

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who in turn will be able to turn
around and produce new shows
with talent that they managed.

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So we've got quite an
interesting structure and
business model set up for all of
that.

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We'll be announcing all this as
we go along and hope in the next
or in this coming week.

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We'll actually be able to do a
couple of announcements about
some of the talent that we've,

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that will be investing in.

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Then the, back to the listeners
for a second.

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I believe that every listener is
pretty much a built in
broadcaster.

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Just be, you know, for yourself
to to test or to, you know, muck
about.

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It may be for your family, your
friends.

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It's more than likely it's not
financially motivated at all.

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But this is a very, excuse me, a
very large group of people who
we also intend to help really by
making it easy for them to do a
podcast.

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And it can be with different
tools, different interfaces,
different means of getting it
there as long as it gets there.

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And that, by the way, will not
all be like a technology thing
that we're all building
ourselves.

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I mean, there's a lot out there,
which is I think the most
exciting.

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The most exciting part about the
moment that we're doing this,
the timing 10 years ago.

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I had to go places and explain
to marketers and advertisers
what the internet was.

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And that was, you know,
difficult.

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And then when we talked about
all the great stuff that could
do, we actually had to go and
build it, which is even worse.

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I was actually Dave Winner
pointed to a great, a great
article.

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Let me see.

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This morning, boy, this is going
to take a second here, but I
really do want to get to this
article.

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It was by.

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Uh, let me see, was it Glenn
Fleischman?

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No.

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Wait a minute, no Brian Deer.

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That's what it was, I think.

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Yeah, it's titled the long
trail.

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And down here, somewhere at the
bottom, he says.

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He, he talks about episode of
Star Trek, where Captain Kirk
is, you know,

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is, you know, is zapped off the
bridge of the enterprise and
deposited on a bleak planter of
rocks, mountains and precipies.

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And he has to fight off the
metrons.

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And he does that with abundance
of natural resources.

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And so this is kind of
interesting here.

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It says, the notion of available
materials has kept with me for
years.

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Look around today on the way,
you'll find all the tools you
need to build whatever you need.

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That's what I discovered was the
case when thinking about EVDB
back in 2002.

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All the building blocks already
existed.

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Each built somewhere along the
long trail of technology just
need to be put together in a new
way.

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Amen to that.

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Absolutely.

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Uh, so there's a lot of that out
there.

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And every single day, it's like,
you know, I think of something
that we can do.

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Because basically, you know,
there's money to do this with,
which is, is the good thing.

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And then all of a sudden an
email pop up or someone has that
idea.

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And it's there, you know, it's
like, don't have to invent on
anything.

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It's just, it's, it's rocking.

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So, uh, stay tuned.

25:59.000 --> 26:03.000
The daily source code will be
the main place where I'll tell
you what's going on.

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And also at podshow.com, that
little player that now has, uh,

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I should have a copy of that if
you hadn't heard that.

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Maybe I should play that for
you.

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It's kind of hokey, which was
obviously a large part of the
intent.

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Uh, I want to say, do I have
this here?

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Oh, I think I have it.

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On my, wow, I can't believe how
much I can't believe how much
came in from my iPod.

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So many podcasts.

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It's just outrageous.

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Okay, I think this is it.

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Yeah, let's have a quick listen
to this.

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We don't need no stinking
trends, man.

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Hi, everybody.

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This is Adam Curry.

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We had a good time putting that
together actually.

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Did a little bit of MIDI work to
make it all sound just perfect,
you know?

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This is a great show that came
through on openpodcast.org.

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I can only play a little bit
because like 8 minutes long, but
it's an angry IT professional.

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It's his rant.

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Openpodcast.org's number 1310.

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See the flip side of when your
computer doesn't work and you
call tech support.

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There are people behind that,
you know?

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Hi, angry tech podcast, take
one.

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Oh, I'm freaking angry today.

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Fucking angry.

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Just go ahead and say it.

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Look, that dead head.

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Come into work.

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One of the texts with the
biggest business territories of
north is gone for the day.

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Changes of floater.

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Floating day he had off schedule
to this day.

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Today, Friday, 11th of March.

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Why, I don't know.

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Reason wasn't made clear to me.

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All I know was all of a sudden
with all this other shit I got
going on.

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I got cover for this time with
bitch.

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And when feel so bad, if it
wasn't such a goddamn habit for
a couple of people that I work
with.

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So it pisses me off.

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So, you know, I'm hitting them.

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I'm banging them out one after
the other.

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Starting early, you know?

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I guess it was a 14-point call.

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Let's go pick a parts first
thing this morning.

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Get rid of somebody.

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Actually, starting out is very
light.

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And I didn't know what the hell
was going to happen.

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But I'd say between nine and 10
o'clock, they just started just
pouring in the calls did.

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What the hell?

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What's the do about it, you
know?

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Take a one at a fucking time.

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Yeah, baby.

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One at a fucking time.

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You know, if that's not bad
enough, the goddamn the way we
got the Beijing system set up
right now.

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When a page comes in for this
guy who left, they call me in.

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I get one for him and then one
for the group.

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And if it's some kind of a
recall or urgent situation, the
people at FWSS want to send out
two or three pages for some
goddamn reason.

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You really should listen to this
whole thing.

30:31.000 --> 30:32.000
It's just amazing.

30:32.000 --> 30:38.000
You know, all of a sudden it's
like it puts a human to the tech
support line you call maybe at
work.

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And those guys don't have it
easy.

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Let me tell you, they really
don't have it easy.

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I know because I am one, I'm a
tech support guy for my
immediate family, my extended
family, all my friends.

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And I'll just say one more time,
you know.

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It's kind of the duty, you know.

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If I'm a geek, it's my duty to
help you.

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And then you'll, it'll become
your duty to help someone else
once you know how to fix
whatever that particular problem
is.

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But you'll learn that when
something goes wrong, it really
helps for someone to, you know,
just jot down the error message
or call you when the error
message is still up.

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You know, otherwise it's like,
you know, it didn't work and
something popped up, but it
didn't read it.

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That just really doesn't cut it,
you know, it's not, it's not
enough to say that.

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So, be nice to your friendly
technician, your IT technician.

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He really wants to help you. He
really does.

31:33.000 --> 31:37.000
I was, while I was saying that I
was trying to pop up a website.

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I remember I talked about the,
the ingenious idea, which wasn't
my idea, but it did come to me
through the show.

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I'm going to copy the link here.

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Oh, man, I'm doing this through
a remote console. It's not very
easy. Here we go.

31:55.000 --> 32:05.000
To use two dish washers, so that
you essentially take the, the
clean ones out of one and when,
you know, when it's dirty, you
put it back into the other.

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And you really don't have your
dishes and it covered anywhere.

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And I got a lot of responses.

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Basically pointing to the same
website, Fisher and Paykel, they
actually make a two-draw
dishwasher.

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And it's built in. It's built
into the cabinetry and you have
a top-draw and a lower draw.

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And I'm saying, yeah, it's
totally cool.

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Let me see that some of the
blurb here, superior ergonomics
fully integrated.

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Choose your own finished
environmentally outstanding.

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Not just a dishwasher, but two
dish washers in one.

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Separately controlled units
featured the unique yet
delightfully uncomplicated
concept of a sliding kitchen
drawer, creating superior
ergonomics and easier access.

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But they haven't really latched
on to the idea of, um, I guess
that's ergonomics, right?

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But they should just say it, you
know, never deal with these
fucking dishes again.

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You know, you keep me the
goddamn drawers, top-draw,
bottom-draw.

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Honey, what draw are we using
today, top-draw? I say, I say,
that would actually work.

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Every beginning has an end, even
for this.

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Uh, it's a stale-hizer roll.

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Stale-hizer bun, or bun,
whatever you want to call it.

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That's fine.

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You'll tell me your heart's
straightness.

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Everyone, help me find a new
good home.

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I could do this.

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starring Tim Henson.

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It's not going to talk.

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Friendships will be broken.

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The stale-hizer roll.

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Someone will die.

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Why would you come in here?

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Or at least be so lonely, babe.

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Instead of a bitch.

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Let me tell you that beat out to
start a beat I come.

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It breaks its 10th from the
store-to-view show.

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Join us on Monday, March 14th,
as we learn together.

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He's won the stale-hizer roll
from eBay.

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Every day on the store-to-view,
we talk about crazy, bizarre
news stories,

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and then proceed to mock him
through the kill them.

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For the past several months,
I've been astounded.

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The amount of crap that's been
sold on eBay.

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We're talking grilled cheese
sandwiches with the Virgin Mary
burned into it.

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A pretzel in the shape of the
baby.

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Jesus giving the thumbs up.

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And, you know, the authors had
on a trisket.

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That's why for a couple
thousand.

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It's insane.

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I wanted to get in on the axel.

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I placed a stale-kaiser roll on
eBay.

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People have actually been on
this stupid thing.

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Toon into the store-to-view on
Monday to see how it all ends.

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www.distortedview.com.

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It's 10 minutes of your life.
You'll never get back.

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Come for the news of the weird.

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Stay for the audio pornography.

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What?

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It's just a distorted view show.

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And, of course, everything
mentioned in today's show

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can be found in the show notes.

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You can find those at
dailysourcecode.com

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or at www.curry.com.

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And, even though I don't have a
young pull-in hit test for
today,

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I've got something that sounds
close.

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Adam Christian, sir, is the
Maccast.

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Hello, this is the hit test for
the Maccast.

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My name is Jan Tualette.

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I am the cousin of Jan Tualette.

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You might have heard of the Mac,
the Adam and Sir.

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Adam Curry's.

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And, uh, he is today's hit test
for especially for the
Macintosh.

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Okay.

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So, here's number one.

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See if you recognize this one.

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This is cool.

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Oh, you've recognized his
Macmill.

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One more time.

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And, here's your 60 seconds.

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Oh, I actually had one of these.

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That's a Power Mac 61.

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I hope you recognize that one.

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Here's number two.

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No problem.

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Oh, that's it.

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I don't want to watch.

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Hi.

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Oh, this one's familiar.

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Oh, it's quite easy.

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How are we going, sir?

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I don't think we'll see 50
seconds.

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Uh, I'm going to guess a, uh,
maybe a performer.

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We're early performer.

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And here's a number three.

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The answer is a built-in school.

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Oh, that's a G4.

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I don't want to about time.

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That sounds kind of familiar.

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Um, uh, blue and white, uh, G3.

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Oh.

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So, how do you know?

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I know.

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I know.

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Did you manage to guess them
all?

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I, I don't think I quite got
them.

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Yeah.

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I don't want them.

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Hey, distinctive.

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That's the Power Macintosh.

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60, 100.

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Okay, see any of that one?

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I'll run about March 1994.

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I hope you got that one.

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He was number two.

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Ah, that one is the Macintosh
performer.

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Yeah.

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I see it.

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It's easy.

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I think I can get the model.

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Oh, no.

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What about the third one?

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Your guest is what I hope is.

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He's the eye Mac for me.

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Your wife.

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He's your black wife.

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All right.

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My wife does it.

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He's your wife.

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No.

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Shit.

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He's my wife.

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You're my wife cause something.

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I'm, kind of I'm...

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I'm Karif.

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Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this.

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And...

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See you next time on D...

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Cas4, Cas4,

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He says...

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You're welcome.

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I've been waiting for some time.

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Catch one..

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Come on.

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There's...

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Look.

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Uh...

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Alright, come on.

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I gotta tell you, when I have
all my subscriptions rolling
through all day and I just pop
them up on iTunes, it's like the
radio station.

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My personal radio station.

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And it really, really sounds
good. It's just, you guys are
nuts, man. I love this stuff.
Let's go.

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Alright, that's it for the daily
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Tomorrow I'll be back. I'll be
keeping you up to speed on the
more developments as they come
along.

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It's going to be a pretty big
week. I hope to be able to do
one or two pretty big
announcements talking about some
of the stuff we're doing.

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