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Daily source code for May 5th,
2005, election day in the UK.

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On casting, all's live, and I'm
curious.

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Everybody, welcome.

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It's curry at the cottage for
the source code.

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The power of the audience is
coming.

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Oh man, it's going to be another
fuzzy cast.

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After some major travel back
from San Francisco,

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I am, wasier than a mother
fuser.

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Coming to you from Curry Cottage
and Gilford in the UK.

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This is the Daily source code.

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And the only thing that's
keeping me going right now is my
trusty senseo machine.

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Yes, whenever you feel lost or
just playing fuzzy, there's the
senseo to kick me out.

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Oh my goodness.

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Back in front of my trusted
gear.

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So happy about my studio set up
now because, being on the road
is really hard.

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It's like I get all kinds of
calls about over modulation,
under modulation,

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mono versus stereo.

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Please, here I've got my fingers
on the trusty knobs. I know
what's going on.

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So it's Thursday. It is May 5th,
2005. It's an interesting day.

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Actually, called my Crystal, the
PA, my assistant who lives in
Geneva,

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but works for me still in
Amsterdam.

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She's cleaning up some of the
last bits of our move away out
of the Netherlands.

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Calder at 10 a.m. UK time, 11
a.m. her time, and I could, you
know, chance of the phone.

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Actually, when she entered
Skype, I could tell that she
was, you know, kind of asleep.

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May 5th is a day of remembrance.

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It's a kind of a veteran's day
in the Netherlands.

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And it follows right on the
heels of May 4th, where at 8
p.m. in the evening.

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And this is actually a pretty
interesting culture of
phenomenon in the Netherlands.

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May 4th at 8 o'clock in the
evening, all church bells across
the country start to ring.

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And there's two minutes of
silence to remember the dead,

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and also not just those who,
well, to remember World War II.

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That's really it. So it's not
just, you know, victims on any
on forces.

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And of course, the Netherlands
lost millions of Jews to German
concentration camps.

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But it's great to see this.

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What happens at 8 p.m. all
television stops.

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All radio stops.

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So it doesn't actually stop
broadcasting.

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But they switch over to retail
lanes, no kinds of ceremonies.

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Even on the highway, people just
stop pull the car over to the
side and wait and, you know,

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sit in silence for, for those
two minutes.

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It's really a beautiful
phenomenon. And so then on May
5th, everyone has the day off,

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which isn't the case in the UK.

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Today is election day, which is
a pretty big elections for, for
this country.

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Unfortunately, I don't know
enough about the, about the UK
government and how it works.

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And I do enjoy very much
watching the, I guess, the House
of Commons.

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Excuse me, which you can watch
live on television, kind of like
on a sea span channel here.

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Oh man, there goes the sense
that the sense they'll come and
back at me.

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I enjoy watching the House of
Commons, because, you know, they
really get into it.

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And they're yelling and
screaming and, you know, and,
and guffering at each other.

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And it's a very lively, active,
governmental process.

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And it's not just for, you know,
for, like, the Lutenants and the
secondary.

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It's, you know, the prime
minister and the opposition.

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They really lay into it. And
it's, it's a fun show to watch.

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It really is very entertaining.

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It looks like Tony Blair will
win again with the labor party,
although the liberal Democrats
have definitely surged ahead.

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I presume that means that, you
know, if they have more votes,
that they will have more seats
in the House of Commons.

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Again, I'm not too sure.

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Luckily, podcast Paul, who we've
spoken about a couple times, who
was really doing a lot to lead
the podcast community in the UK,

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is doing an election podcast.
I'll play just a little bit for
you.

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He's doing them almost by the
hour at this point. I'm, I've
seen, I think this is number 12.

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So he is giving updates. Here's
a bit of what it sounds like.

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Welcome to UK election podcast
number 12.

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That's not Paul, by the way.

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That's it.

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And you let in a conservative
MP.

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It's not the thing that you're
protesting about that we change.

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What we change is the strength
of the economy, the health, the
hardworking families,

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the investment in schools and
hospitals and the communities of
this country.

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That's like the House of
Commons.

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And then we've got a big choice
too on the National Health
Service.

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Again, they don't want to debate
it.

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But that's a very simple reason.

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Because the Conservative plan is
to take over a billion pounds a
year out of the National Health
Service

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and use it to subsidize private
sector operations.

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There's the thing that I like
the way these elections are
played out.

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And unfortunately, being in the
States for the past almost 12,
was it five days.

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I missed out on a lot of the
late minute.

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I guess all the tours that all
the candidates were doing and
all the talking they were doing.

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The talk shows and the TN, the
TV appearances.

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But they really get down to the
details of notice.

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If you look at the newspapers
today as well, there's really a
very finite definition of what's
going

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to happen to the tax dollars, to
the tax pounds, tax money.

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They're still arranging debate
here about the UK joining the
euro.

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There's a referendum on the way
for the European Constitution.

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And there's really a lot of good
details that are discussed.

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Very eloquently, I'd say.

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It seems to me like it's a
little less fuzzy.

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At least in the explanation, God
knows if what they're saying is
true or not.

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I certainly don't.

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But it does feel like they get
into a lot more detail.

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I wish that we'd gotten
podcasting in front of Tony
Blair.

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I think he would have been able
to do some really good ones.

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Which, oh yeah, that reminds me
a long time ago.

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Let's see.

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Was it almost coming up on a
year and a half or two years
now?

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I helped the leader of the Dutch
Socialist Party.

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Young Marais started a weblog.

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And it really took, he was on my
radio show when I was doing the
Morning Show in Holland.

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And he came on.

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It was really just a down to
earth guy.

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I enjoyed talking to him very
much.

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And I'm not afraid of the
socialist moniker.

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In fact, many of his party, I
think, are looking at him kind
of with a sliag,

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and I'm like, what's he up to?

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But he's got a great
personality.

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And I think, you need that first
of all to lead any country.

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And the socialist party is by no
means leading the Netherlands.

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But they are climbing in
popularity.

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And so he started his weblog and
just kept on going and it's been
posting every single day.

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He post pictures.

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And I've subscribed to him in my
aggregator.

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I use net news wire for my Mac
for, for most of my aggregator
stuff,

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which also understands
enclosures, so it understands
podcasts as well.

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And in my iTunes, popped his
first enclosure.

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So I even though it's a radio
commercial, it is technically a
podcast.

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Will do.

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The Netherlands, in one European
superstar,

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but in the whole country, it
wants to say,

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if you want to stay in the
Netherlands.

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Say, then, if you don't take the
European side of it.

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Do you know more?

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Do you know what?

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We have SP points in L.

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And we have SP points in L.

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So the Netherlands also is
holding a referendum about the
European Constitution.

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I mean, just think about that
for a second.

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How wacky this is that Europe is
creating a constitution of all
these member states,

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all these member countries.

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And I can't agree on the
constitution, which, of course,

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having seen the, what was that
movie with Nicolas Cage,

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national treasure, the
declaration of the constitution?

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Is that what they were stealing?

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I think they were stealing the
constitution.

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Was also written by Renegades,
if I understand the history as
explained in the movie.

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And in this case, it seems like
the Renegades are against the
constitution.

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Like this is some form of, you
know, big corporate roll-up,

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which is the way it feels to me.

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And there was been so little
information about, you know,
what's in the cond,

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I don't think anyone really
knows what's in the
constitution.

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You know, just try and find it,
you know,

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Google European Constitution and
try and find the document.

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I was probably show up somewhere
as a PDF,

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and then if you can understand
the language,

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well, then you're definitely
smarter than I am.

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So the referendum will be held
on June 1.

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And there was a podcast by the
socialist leader of the
socialist party

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and the Netherlands saying, you
know, vote against the
constitution.

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If the Netherlands votes against
the constitution,

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I'm not sure if they can do it
by themselves,

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but then and probably one other
member state at the calling of
the states,

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but they're really countries
could throw this constitution.

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It could set back, you know,
this effort that's been ongoing
for 25 years

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to roll up Europe into one
United States of Europe.

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It could really stunt that.

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So it'll be interesting to track
and, you know,

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where are the podcasts coming
from Brussels?

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That would be nice if we could
have them.

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Okay, travels came back from San
Francisco.

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And unfortunately, I couldn't
get on a virgin flight,

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you know, I really enjoy flying
with virgin airlines.

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They have great miles program as
well.

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And they have this, like middle
class,

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so you have economy, then you
have premier economy,

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which gives you a little bit
more room, which is just that,

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that little bit extra for, you
know, my six foot four body
frame,

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which is just, I can't sleep in
those chairs regardless,

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because they don't recline
enough.

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And if they do recline them, my
shin bones hit against the seed
in front,

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but it also gives you the
advantage of being able to show
up a little bit later

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because you do get a separate
check-in line.

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You know, just some of the, some
of the things that I like about
first class

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without these $7,000 first class
ticket,

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which I just really used to pay
for.

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So I had to go on British
Airways, and I showed up at SFO
San Francisco International
Airport

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with about an hour and 15
minutes before departure time.

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So in time enough, and I, you
know, made a reservation through
the phone,

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I didn't even do it online,
because I just didn't have
access to web browser

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wanting to make the
reservations.

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So I show up, you know, it's a
one way ticket, because I had a
one way come and over.

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One way ticket, it's an
e-ticket.

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So immediately I got the much
feared quadruple S stamp on my
board,

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which means in the minute you go
through, go through security,

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TSA, and go, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom, boom,

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secondary, secondary over here,
folks.

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Which means you get a secondary
check right off the bat

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without even, you know, going
off to the metal detector.

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So I got completely, completely
and thoroughly searched.

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Almost enjoyable, actually.

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My bag was ripped to shreds, and
I, you know, my travel bag now

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was just filled with wires, and
connectors, and MP3 players,

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and recorders, and of course
adapters, and currency adapters
for,

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for power adapters for
different, different currencies,

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since U.S. has won ten, and see,
like the rest of the world,

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almost is 220 volts, multiple
laptops, and so,

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you know, they went through
everything meticulously, you
know,

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examining each item and opening
it up and extracting the
batteries,

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and, you know, rubbing it down
for traces of explosives,

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and, you know, it took about 20
minutes.

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Now, this type of security, by
the way, I'm not against.

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I, it's, what I hate is when
they just kind of like,

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you know, run your shit through
it, and, you know,

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and this is like they're
pretending to look for something

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just to make everyone feel safe,
that there's some kind of
security check.

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This is a real check, and I do
appreciate that.

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And, indeed, there it came, out
came the lighter.

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I'm sorry, sorry, you aware this
is illegal contraband,

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and we have to confiscate this.

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Well, yeah, enjoy a little bit
lighter, okay.

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I guess that can be deemed
extremely dangerous,

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and I was wondering, I don't
smoke cigarettes,

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so I was wondering if you
actually buy a pack of
cigarettes

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after security, do they offer
you matches with that?

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Or, can you not even buy a
lighter or matches at all in the
airport?

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I should figure that out and see
if that's true or not,

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but, so that was kind of fun.

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And of course, then they also
broke the lock off of my bag,

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which I checked in.

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They do put a nice little wire
strap around it,

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so that, you know, I guess they,
it's kind of closed

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then after that, but, you know,

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maybe if they'd said, you know,
please leave it open or
something,

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or, you know, I don't know, just
the fact that someone

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breaks open the lock on your
bag,

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and then rummages through it is,
you know,

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I understand the security issue
of it,

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and of course, that also had the
triple S stamp, so I get it.

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But, you know, why don't you
just tell me to keep it
unlocked?

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So, the lock was kind of nice,
actually, you know,

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and I like it because I've had
shit stolen out of my suitcase

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many, many times, even with a
lock on it, you know,

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it's just, I don't know, you
feel a little bit violated.

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I understand, in this case, why
I was a security risk,

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but still, there should be
perhaps a better way to do it.

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Okay, what should we talk about?

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I have so many promos lined up,
I've got, you know,

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let's get into a mashup right
now,

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because I feel like a good
music.

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Walking talking vertical man.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two.

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[ Music ]

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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[ Music ]

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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One, two, three.

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[ Music ]

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I'm looking for some more
mashups. I know they're out
there, but please send them off
to me.

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I'm giving you some email
addresses as well to send off
your promos and your potsafe
music and mashups as well.

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We'll talk about that in a
second but first. The reason why
we're in San Francisco, I want
to tell you about that.

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As you know, Ron and I were in
New York, one was because we
wanted to be together to do the
strategy cast and really
appreciate all the comments.

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We have hundreds of comments on
the weblog on the show notes for
at the dailysourcecode.com and
probably hundreds more private
emails that people sent.

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Not everyone wants to post their
comments or their ideas
publicly, many because they have
ideas that maybe they don't want
to put in the public space just
yet.

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That's really great. I like it,
you know, positive and negative
because this is why we do this
out in the open and let you know
what we're doing as openly as as
is humanly possible.

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I said we were coming out with
dam announcements and where we
are, we're announcing stuff and
let you know what our strategy
is.

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It's very helpful to see this
type of feedback mainly because
the one thing I like about it is
to see how poorly sometimes
communication works.

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Even though we thought we might
have explained some things
really well, people pick up on
words sentences.

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It's very much like the game of
telephone we've played as we
were kids, you know, you say one
thing to someone and then maybe
by the if someone didn't hear
the whole two hours which is
completely conceivable.

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They'll read something and then,
you know, before you know it,
there's a big confusion about
what is what.

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So really enjoy all the comments
and all the weblogged postings
and all the podcasters news
group postings.

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It's pretty interesting to read.
I actually just say very
interesting to read.

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And we were in New York to do
the strategy cast and also we
had a couple of follow up
meetings with Madison Avenue
companies and brands and, you
know, talking about advertising
and enabling advertising for any
podcaster that is interested in
taking advertising.

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Just so you understand, if
you're not interested, that's
fine. You know, I don't think
there's any way that myself or
wrong bloom or podshow or
anybody for that reason can
really hijack podcasting.

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I mean, there's anybody can
continue to podcast and do that
with the tools are out there and
available.

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I think that just about everyone
could set up a complete podcast
infrastructure for themselves
for almost almost no money.

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I think that you still have to
have some cash for hosting.

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And this is this is really
something that has become very
apparent to me.

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Having been using with great
graciousness, by the way, from
apples dot mac team.

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Having been using their
infrastructure to distribute the
daily source code for the
strategy cast, moved over to our
own server.

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Now we have two 100 megabit
connections unlimited, unlimited
as they call it. So I think
that's without the servers.

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That's about six or seven
thousand dollars a month.

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And even that wasn't, well, that
certainly wasn't enough if you
could tell it completely swamped
the pipes when everyone just
wanted to hit that and just
download it.

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Now, of course, you know, I
could have done a shorter show.

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We could have compressed it at
half the bit rate and you all
these technological solutions
which certainly would have
worked.

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But, you know, I don't think
anyone's have to be a rocket
scientist to be able to do this.

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So it's clear that, you know, in
order to have the right
infrastructure to really make
podcasting fly the way we've
seen web logging take off.

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You know, it'll take some some
form of money.

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And we can certainly all, you
know, have our little web host,
you know, which have all
different types of setups, you
know,

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Libs in, for instance,
interesting bunch of guys.

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And they have a model where you
pay for keeping your older shows
online.

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But what happens when you get
the equivalent of a slash dot
effect on a web log, you get
that in podcasting.

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I've actually had this happen a
couple of times where I've
pointed to someone's podcast.

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And, you know, the first 15 or
20 people were able to get it to
get to it immediately and then
either that hosts.

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Pipe was swamped or the account
that the person had, you know,
if you get like a $20 web
hosting account, you get maybe
two or three gigabytes in
transfer information per month.

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And that filled up and then
whoops, you know, there you go,
it gets cut off and there's no
more downloads.

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What are we going to do about
stuff like that? And I think
that's actually a very serious
concern.

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And if you have a show that you
want me to promo and by the way,
you know, just keep the promo is
coming.

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Because what I do is I just
started the bottom and I play
the promo as one by one as they
come in, you know, it's still
pretty manageable for me.

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You know, if you got to consider
that I'm going to send people
your way and you have to be kind
of prepared for it.

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So as we saw in the web logging
world with weblog systems, there
were certainly in the beginning
there were lots of free
services.

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And as you hopefully know, a
part of our strategy is to give
away free podcast tools and
hosting to anyone who's
interested for free, which of
course on our end will be
advertiser supported.

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Not within the context of your
show, there's no, you know,
there will be no constraints,
you can do whatever you want.

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If you don't want the
advertising, then, you know,
there'll be a monthly fee.
That's I think that's pretty
reasonable.

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Because what I don't want to
happen is I don't want, you
know, like a repeat of what we
saw with weblogs.com, where at a
certain point either.

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Well, I think it does eventually
come down to money.

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Either it's more people that
have to manage the process or
more money for bandwidth.

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You know, somewhere someone's
got to give, particularly
because we're not talking text
files anymore, right?

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We're really talking about some
serious bandwidth.

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A bit torrent, still a great
option. I know that most of the
clients, the iPoddark programs
out there, understand bit
torrent.

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Personally, I haven't really had
the time or the understanding of
how to set up a bit torrent
system that would work for me.

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And then, you know, then comes
another problem. This goes back
to more than half a year ago.

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We're talking about alternate
downloads.

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And I remember Dave and I were
working on an alternate spec for
an alternate spec or name space
for RSS to enable a separate
download feed, which would be
bit torrent only.

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And I'm not quite sure that how
the well that's going to work
yet.

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So I'm definitely looking for
help if someone is out there
creating a bit torrent podcast
solution. Let me know.

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Because I would like to try it.
And I think that the daily
source code is probably an
excellent program to try that
shit.

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Because if it breaks first of
all, you know, I won't cry.

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We'll get it up somehow. And
secondly, there's, you know, it
pushes a lot of bandwidth.

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So if you've got a system that I
can try and something set up,
let's give it a shot.

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By the way, my pipe is down
again here in the UK, my four
megabit pipe.

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And that guy, man, is easy in
it, guys. And it's like, you
know, it's a local loop
unbundled, which means it's not
really easy net is providing the
service.

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And it's coming through a clear
open line that British telecom
provides. And now that they say
that lines down, British telecom
says the line is fine.

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You know, it's like, it drives
me nuts.

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Luckily, I have the backup, but
it's still, it's only a one
megabit download.

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And the amount of subscriptions
I have, it's been just cranking
away all morning long here.

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So back to the infrastructure
part. So we're in New York, and
we started getting calls from,
well, first of all, also a part
of the New York trip was the
serious agreement, which, as I
said, it came together pretty
quickly.

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Only a couple weeks after
talking about the concept of
having a place where, and this
is really important that we talk
about this.

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The pod show on serious, which
will be on, was it the talk
channel, I think channel 148.

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It's, it's a marketing channel
for podcast.

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That is really the entire
benefit, I think, to anyone who
wants to promote their podcast
to an audience of moving towards
2 million subscribers now on
serious.

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I think subscribers who probably
may not have an MP3 player, and
also a market that is going to
grow exponentially because of
all the deals that are put in
place by

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the satellite radio
manufacturers to actually have
car radio systems that are
pre-installed as you buy your
car.

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The first thing they'll have is
it'll have a satellite radio
receiver.

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There are a couple of brands,
most notably I think Volvo and
BMW that also have iPod
connectors.

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Of course, that's missing out on
an entire market of other MP3
players that won't connect in
that fashion.

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But also, serious, really is
filling a void of people who
probably might not even have
been exposed to podcasting.

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So the pod show on serious is,
and this is where some confusion
came up, is going to be, as I
said, like a daily source code,
not the daily source code.

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I'm not going to give up my
baby, I'm going to do continue
to do the source code, perhaps
if I think a show is worthy
enough or good enough, I'll put
the daily source code on that
pod show.

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But it's really going to be a
place where you can submit your
podcast, your promo, your pod
safe music, your mashups, and
I'll just be putting as much
into those four hours daily as
possible.

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And I think it should be enough
looking at the ocean of content
that we're seeing already and
the number of people that are
submitting stuff to my personal
Gmail account and for the daily
source code.

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And I think we'll be able to
fill up those four hours.

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And as it grows, I hope to take
over an entire channel and maybe
even have the interfaces a
little bit more open.

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Right now, of course, I'm going
to have to be some sort of
filter to, well, to format it,
put it all in place.

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When I say format it, that
means, you know, to have a
format in mind of how it would
start off.

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Like the source code, you know,
we have some promos, then we
play a mashup, then we have some
pod safe music.

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But it's going to be completely
open.

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I want anyone to submit if
you're interested and you want
to promote it and put your, you
know, your URL in there, talk
about your podcast feed.

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Say whatever you want, you know,
if it's, if you just want your
whole show submitted, please do
that.

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I'm going to be playing as much
as possible within those four
hours.

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So it's not going to replace the
daily source code, you know,
won't be like the source code is
only available there.

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And it also doesn't make a lot
of sense.

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And I'll think to put those
full, those full four hour daily
programs onto into a podcast.

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That kind of defeats the
purpose.

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And it's also not for people who
are, I think, are already
receiving podcasts.

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This is for people who aren't
aware of what podcasts are.

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Or for people who just want to
have, in some way, to sample it.

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Which may be, you know, a
broader universe to sample
podcasts than the daily source
code or other shows that are out
there that, you know, perhaps
promote other podcasts.

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So I see kind of as an extension
of what, what, what we have at
iPod.org.

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That's where I get my, my
information, your new podcast
for, for this show.

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Maybe we'll look at what's top
rated podcast, Ali, which is, as
voted on by, by the community.

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And we have nothing to do with
that.

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So, and then, of course, I'll, I
get as many, I collect the
things as possible.

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But if you don't send it to me,
obviously, I can't play it.

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So is it broadcasting? Of course
it's broadcasting. Is it bad? I
don't know.

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I, I think that it's a great way
to promote your, your podcast.

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Okay, so it starts Friday the
13th, of course, of date, I
chose.

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And if you want to submit your
show or your promo, either one
is fine, send it to submit at
podshow.com.

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If you, if you're banned and you
want your music exposed send
that to podsafe at podshow.com.

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If you got a mashup, which is
something I'm looking for, send
it to mashup at podshow.com.

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That's actually pretty cool
because mashups, although, you
know, we kind of get away with
it doing it playing them here on
the source code.

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Obviously, there's some RIA
issues there, and this will be a
great way to get mashups out
there.

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And people will be able to
listen to them since serious,
does have their, ask at BMI
agreements in place.

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And they already pay for that.
So you'll be able to, I will be
able to put mashups on the
podshow and serious.

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And again, if we can fill up the
four hours, then I'm sure I can
convince them over there to give
us a whole channel and open it
up a little bit more.

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As the, you know, the original
concept here is as an
openpodcast.org type model.

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And what I will be doing is
publishing show notes for every
single show.

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Actually, I got to talk to
Andrew Grummet, who runs
gigadile.net.

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He sent me an email. I'm just
parsing through the 3000 on red
and emails right now.

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He sent me an email about
setting something up with
gigadile so that you can
actually get back to the core,

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show themself. So if you, if you
hear something that you like,
and hopefully if you already
know what podcasting is,

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then you'll be able to go to the
podshow show notes, pick up the
XML feed and subscribe to the
show that you like.

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Also, we're going to have
feedback. Again, it's, it's like
a really big podcast, only it's
not for your MP3 player.

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It's, it's for serious satellite
radio. That's going to be the,
the receiver part.

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Just so you know, anything goes.
There is no restrictions. We
have full, and I mean full
creative control.

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That was, you know, like a big
thing that I would prepare to
fight for, but wasn't an issue,

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because they don't have to
adhere much like podcast. They
don't have to adhere at all to
the FCC regulations.

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They do have to adhere to,
that's interesting, the digital
millennium copyright act, which
gives them one distinct
disadvantage.

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Well, I mean, we have a, a
bigger disadvantage in, in
podcasts where you can't really
play any RIA music.

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But on the satellite stations,
you can do and say whatever you
want, what you can't do is you
can't play two songs by the same
artist back to back,

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because they consider it a
digital transmission, therefore
it falls under the digital
copyright millennium act.

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So what you don't hear on the
satellite stations unless
they've gotten, you know,
specific approval from the
record companies.

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And you won't hear like an hour
long special of one artist,
because it's a two songs or you
can't do more than two songs
back to back.

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It's some crazy ass law that
even the record companies don't
really understand.

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So, you know, nothing else is
going to change on the source
code. I wish I had, you know,
less flying time in recent weeks
to just do more, you know, more
daily source code, because it's
not really a daily source code.

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I get in about an average of
three a week. I'm trying to get
it back to five and actually the
next week will be pretty easy.

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I'm staying put Patricia now is
going to go away. She's going to
stay with her sister for a week
and do some family stuff.

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So it'll be just Christina and I
and Christina and I have some
ideas for we're going to do a
podcast. Maybe get some of the
tune. She's been listening to
and do some together. So that
should be fun.

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All right, a couple of promos.
Let me get off to the first one
I have lined up here for you.

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Who's who's flash?

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The thing you're hearing in the
background is some role that it
is door counts material.

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The door counts are proud to
present the first ever open
source MP3.

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And if you get a sound editing
program on your computer, you
can enter our contest.

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Just go to www.dorktown.com and
see details.

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The door counts, innovating and
masturbating.

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Dorktowns find Dutch podcasts.
It's interesting that podcasting
has been so slow to take off on
the Netherlands.

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Seeing is that a lot of the
development done on iPoders was
done by Dutch people by Dutch
developers.

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So this, specifically the lemon
team, a couple of Dutch guys
there.

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So what is it? Doppler and nimic
all Dutch developed programs and
still very slow to pick up
there.

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So back to San Francisco for a
second.

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So taking all of that into
consideration about, well, I
really miss that whole part when
it's straight into serious.

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Taking into consideration that
it is going to take some
significant infrastructure.

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If we really want to get all
these people creating podcasts
and we want to bring in the
millions of listeners.

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And that, of course, partially
will be through initiatives like
the pod show on serious.

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That's a promotional vehicle.
That's going to bring people,

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I guess I'm going to bring
listeners in. In some ways, I've
got to kind of go back to half
year ago or maybe even nine
months ago and re-explain how it
works.

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It's not just for iPods. You'd
be amazed that not everybody
knows what podcasting is.

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Really don't particularly in the
United States. I'd say that
there's quite a void of
knowledge.

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I'm going to see it on the email
feedback when what articles
people might pick up on.

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Because that's really how people
are discovering podcasting now
is through mainstream media.

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So if Dawn and Drew do an
interview or if I do an
interview or if there's another
great article or even if there's
a bad article,

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doesn't matter. The interest
gets sparked up and people start
to go to the net and figure out
what's going on.

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So this infrastructure is going
to take money. That's for sure.

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And Silicon Valley who really,
if anyone's late coming into
podcasting,

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I think it's the West Coast in
Silicon Valley.

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Because this is not so much
about the technology.

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I think we've really done a
great job over the years with
RSS and the enclosure element,

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building iPodders and building
up just to know what we have
now.

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I think at iPod.org it's more
than five and a half thousand
podcasts are being tracked right
now.

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And I don't know how many
podcasts Ali has, but probably
an equal amount.

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It should be an equal amount if
not even more.

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Is this infrastructure?

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And we really stay the way Ron
and I from, you know,

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from ever really being
interested in going the VC route
venture capitalists who,

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you know, I just don't know
anything about it.

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I've never taken any money from
venture capitalists.

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For our, for our plan to succeed
when it comes to the media side
and it comes to the creative
side.

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I don't think there's not really
a lot of money that's needed.

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You know, we have our pod squad
now.

35:34.500 --> 35:40.500
We have Donna Drew and Rock and
Roll Geek and Steve Gilmore and
Madge Weinstein and

35:40.500 --> 35:46.500
Skinny on Sports and CC Chapman
is working with us with Chris
Rockwell to build the pod save
music network.

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There's not, except for the pod
save music network.

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I don't think you need a lot of
infrastructure to just get that
going and

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build the interfaces for
allowing any podcaster.

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If interested to participate in
media dollars, which I just
think is an easy way to do it.

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You know, I'm hearing all kinds
of podcasts who have sponsors
and advertisers already and
they've picked them up locally,

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which is perfectly valid and
great.

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In fact, I was listening to
Caribbean free radio this
morning and heard they now have
a pretty serious sponsor.

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Sponsoring their show.

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So maybe you're not interested
in ad sales, maybe not good at
it.

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So it'll be a pretty effective
way for you to check in.

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And if you want, you don't have
to deal with the sponsors at all
and you can just get free
podcast set up free hosting.

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And if you are interested in
searching, finding for a sponsor
that fits your show.

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Because that's an important
part.

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You know, I don't think it makes
any sense to have a sponsor that
isn't really sponsoring anything
or advertising any product of
service that doesn't directly
deal with what you're talking
about.

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You know, unless you think all
of your listeners drink Coke,
then of course Coca-Cola would
be a great one.

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But it's really about matching
up the right advertisers with
the right shows.

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And that's a two way street is
what the advertisers working for
looking for and it's what the
podcasters looking for.

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So that's a pretty open system,
but it is going to take that
infrastructure.

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And we were getting calls from
from like big firms have only
heard of and read of like, you
know,

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Clienter Perkins and Mayfield
and Sequoia Capital.

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And as you know, I was planning
on returning Saturday.

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Didn't even have enough
underwear to go for a couple
more days.

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So Ron and I said, you know,
let's go out and let's meet with
these people.

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Let's see what they're thinking
about.

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See what their thoughts are on
what what the West Coast of, you
know what the technology
industry is looking at.

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I have to say pretty clueless,
they had really don't know much
about it.

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So it was a very educational
visit.

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But it was kind of cool to, you
know, to sit with some Silicon
Valley legends.

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I guess what is pretty typical
out in the valley is if you have
a successful business, then, you
know,

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and after you sell it, I think
there were a lot of, well, not
just, you know,

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one or two guys who came from
the dot com era like Mark Kwame,
who was works now at

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He's at, I'm going to fuck this
up.

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I don't know if he did Sequoia,
I think Sequoia Capital.

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He was actually one of our peers
when we had think new ideas.

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He had CKS, which later merged
with US web.

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Not quite sure what happened to
the company, but so he's now a
venture capitalist.

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And it was fun.

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We actually ever met, but it was
fun kind of going through the
old stories of, you know,

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seven to 10 years ago when we
were all building a big
interactive marketing and
services companies.

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But also Ray Lane, who was the,
I think, the president and CEO
of Oracle.

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Wow, what an interesting guy
that is.

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He's been through a lot in the
tech industry and cut these guys
that were like smart.

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They definitely know what kind
of, you know, what you need to
make something tick when

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you're talking about
infrastructure and, and, and
really.

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Yeah, everything, but I'd say,
well, actually, they have a lot
of media experience too.

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And then there's another guy we
were in another meeting.

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And it was just two people.

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And we're, you know, we're,
we're talking about what
podcasting is.

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And I think I mentioned this
before, but Kaikya, who, who,
who did the Adams family.

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She, basically, produced and
edited the Adams family for us.

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Our reality show, she did a 10
minute video, which we actually
did that like a couple months
ago.

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Just kind of explained the
podcasting concept.

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And, you know, in your, your
typical marketing means, you
know, so you kind of understand
what,

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where it came from, what it's
doing, you know, some examples.

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And I think it's, a lot more fun
to, to talk about such an
exciting medium is audio,

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and do it, you know, with a
video presentation.

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Audio was kind of tough if
you're in a room with people.

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And you all just have to kind of
sit there and listen.

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So we, we created video versions
of everything.

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And that worked really, really
well in explaining our concepts.

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And to, like, a woman and a
gentleman, someone, a little
older, a little bit older
gentleman,

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which means older than I am.

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And, and we were talking, and he
had some really good questions.

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And, and he said, you know,
I've, he had a French accent.

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He's like, I have the lemon, and
I like it very much.

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And he was talking about some
podcasts that he listened to.

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And then I, I glanced on this
business card.

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And then I finally hit me, then
I recognized the name.

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Jean Louis Gasse, he's the, I
think he was a chief technology
officer of Apple.

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And he also had B. Remember B,
the BOS.

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And so, you know, once I figured
out who he was, then I could
kind of drive the conversation
to have

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him tell me some stuff.

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And at the end of that when I
was like, I said, you know, you
know, we've got to do this.

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We have to do this meeting
again, Jean Louis.

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We have to do this as a podcast.

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And he will.

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So if I get, if I get out to the
West Coast again, then it will
be, I'll definitely be talking

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to some of these people and just
getting their stories.

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Because man, these guys have
some interesting backgrounds.

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Was another guy who, who totally
understood what we were talking
about was,

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oh man, I'm bogging all these
names.

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Hold on a second.

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I mean, grandma.

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I like eight million business
cards, which I never do anything
with.

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Uh, who was it?

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Oh, yeah, I remember from, it
was Randy Commissar.

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He's at Clienter Perkins.

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And he's, he's an East Coast
guy, really.

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It was funny because, uh, and
we're running, I took a bathroom
break before we left.

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And, uh, and the income is this
guy, you know, he's got a, he's
got a head phone on.

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He's talking on the phone while
he's taking a leak in the
mirror.

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And Ron and I looked at each
other and went like, this guy's
got to be from the East Coast.

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He came to the West Coast.

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Uh, and Randy, I think was
involved in Tevo in the early
days.

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Uh, so he totally understands a
lot of, uh, a lot of the
concepts,

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because I, you know, podcasting
is in, in effect in some ways.

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Uh, the technology of it is very
much like a Tevo.

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Even though, uh, we're, you
know, the content pool is not
limited to a number of
television stations.

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It's just completely and utterly
and lovely wide open.

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Like, for a Boston, it's the M
show.

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Well, it's not really live, but
it is 10 minutes of business
talking entertainment from
Boston.

42:32.500 --> 42:36.500
We'll talk about some of the
latest business topics, a quick
talk section.

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And over in an entertainment,
we'll talk about DVDs and books
that you should check out to
feed your business brain.

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And don't worry, it's worth
safe.

42:42.500 --> 42:43.500
And only 10 minutes.

42:43.500 --> 42:50.500
Check us out at DM show.com
www.THEMSHOW.com.

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Thanks for listening.

42:51.500 --> 42:52.500
Hi Adam.

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This is Andrew Seymour.

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At Ed Tech Musician, the number
one education podcast at podcast
hour.

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Are you the police?

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No, ma'am.

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We're musicians.

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We're musicians.

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We're musicians.

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We're musicians.

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We're musicians.

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We're musicians.

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Ed Tech Musician is not just a
podcast about educational
technology,

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not just about music technology,

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but about having a great time
making music, listening to
music, and teaching music.

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So if you're interested in music
technology,

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check out Ed Tech Musician at
feeds.feetburner.com

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forward slash Ed Tech Musician,

43:30.500 --> 43:34.500
or check out my website,
Andrewseymour.com

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That's Andrewseymour.com

43:38.500 --> 43:44.500
I just always links to all the
promos,

43:44.500 --> 43:47.500
and anything played on the
source code on the show notes at

43:47.500 --> 43:50.500
Curry.com or at
DailySourceCode.com

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And what do we have?

43:51.500 --> 43:52.500
Like 43 minutes already.

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I'm going to go a little bit
long today.

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Here's something really cute.

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I heard on the Paris Helping
Podcast.

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Back to Paris Helping Podcast,

43:58.500 --> 43:59.500
downtown the House of Wax.

43:59.500 --> 44:00.500
It's Monday, May 2nd.

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I'm still in New York doing
publicity for my movie.

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By the way, I'll make former
days to little events.

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I also want to thank Adam Curry
and Don and Drew.

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Yeah, boy.

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I'm supporting my podcast.

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You guys are rock.

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Yeah.

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Okay, Paris.

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Thank you, first of all.

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It's funny because my daughter
heard that.

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She's like, oh, that's really
cool.

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But Mads Weinstein's a little
bit hurt, Paris.

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I wanted to talk about you
guessed it.

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Paris Hilton, my sponsor, my
first sponsor.

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Now, Paris, I appreciate the
sponsorship that you've given

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to codshow.com.

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I think it's wonderful.

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I love your podcast and the
whole concept of a podcast is
wonderful.

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And it's your pioneering.

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Oh, yeah.

44:39.500 --> 44:41.500
I have kissed your ass up
fucking much, please.

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I need to do anything more.

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Now, you've hurt my feelings,
Paris.

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No, not because you didn't let
me go downtown

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and then go downtown, if you
know what I mean.

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But rather because on your most
recent podcast,

44:54.500 --> 44:56.500
five, two, I didn't hear today's
yet.

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If you did it already, I don't
know.

44:59.500 --> 45:01.500
You said I just want to say
thanks to Adam.

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Kerry and John and Drew.

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You guys rock or something like
some equally eloquent

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expression that you made, Paris.

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But you didn't say anything
about Mads Weinstein.

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No, I don't know what's going
on.

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I don't know if you don't listen
to my show,

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but certainly somebody from your
round to round,

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must listen to it.

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So you're listening to Paris.

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If you're her friend, is it so
much to ask to say,

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thanks to everybody including
Mads Weinstein,

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who once seemed my pussy up in
one letter.

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You can say that you can be
mean.

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It's okay.

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I think, you know, you shouldn't
go for that hunter.

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No, I'm sorry, the Rod Stewart's
wife.

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You should go for Mads Weinstein
as your new real-life body.

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Now, now you'd be on the cutting
edge.

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Okay, so Mads has a,

45:51.500 --> 45:54.500
I think she has a genuine beef
there, Paris.

45:54.500 --> 45:57.500
I guess there's going to be four
more episodes

45:57.500 --> 45:58.500
until the movie opens.

45:58.500 --> 46:01.500
House of waxpodcast.com.

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It's a, I still wish there would
be more.

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I do like listening to the, to
the mob scene.

46:10.500 --> 46:12.500
That actually has even
frightened me.

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You know, I've been not really
mob,

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but you know, there's, I've had
lots of people asking,

46:16.500 --> 46:19.500
you know, for autographs and
stuff and in certain situations,

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certainly back in the MTV days.

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But wow, I mean, what kind of
life is that, man?

46:23.500 --> 46:25.500
You walk out the door and it's
just fucking crazy.

46:25.500 --> 46:28.500
And the photographers, man,
those are obnoxious guys, huh?

46:28.500 --> 46:31.500
They just yell and yell and yell
and make you want to turn

46:31.500 --> 46:33.500
and look this way and that way
and it's just, you know,

46:33.500 --> 46:36.500
it seems like, yeah, it seems
pretty heavy.

46:36.500 --> 46:38.500
So I like that part of the
podcast.

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I'd still like to hear some more
private moments.

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Maybe when you're really just,
you know, shooting the bowl

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and not, you know, it seems like
some of it,

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you know, is kind of like
prescripted or prethought out.

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It's, uh, it's fun, fun
listening to it.

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It's definitely in my
subscription list.

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And, uh, man, I'm not going to
get to everything I wanted to
get to.

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Let me play another podsafe
music tune,

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because this is, uh, CC has been
feed to me.

47:04.500 --> 47:08.500
CC Chapman from Axon-Hashpodcast
has been feeding me with some
great tunes.

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I like this one.

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Say what you will.

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[ Music ]

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No

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Too might have survived

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For

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Cheese

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For

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We have livna

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Yeah And this is Chaz with
rockfitting.com

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We're launching 15 minutes of
fame.

50:56.660 --> 51:01.660
Andy Warhol always said everyone
has 15 minutes of fame.

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So I'm thinking why not do a
podcast about it and give
everyone that opportunity

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to tell their story their 15
minutes of fame that they've
had.

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I mean, come on Adam, you have
met every major entertainer on
this planet.

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I mean, you are probably
stockful of great stories.

51:17.660 --> 51:21.660
But what about those Joe's and
James out there who don't have
an outlet like you?

51:21.660 --> 51:24.660
I'm going to give them a voice,
a podcast.

51:24.660 --> 51:28.660
So if you're an entertainer with
a new release, hey, we'll give
you 15 minutes of fame.

51:28.660 --> 51:32.660
Or if you're just an everyday
person with a great story to
tell,

51:32.660 --> 51:35.660
we're interested in hearing what
you have to say.

51:35.660 --> 51:40.660
Please submit story ideas and
MP3 files to podcast at
rocketfifteen.com.

51:40.660 --> 51:48.660
And hey Adam, I think that you
should submit as well because
you know I'm sure there's a few
things you haven't told us about
the old MTV days.

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Oh, one final thing.

51:50.660 --> 51:52.660
I'm going to be podcasting at
the Kentucky Derby.

51:52.660 --> 51:55.660
Now that's going to be held on
Saturday, May 7.

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And I'll be given all access to
this event, which means I'm
going to be in the in-build
brigades.

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Not everybody takes a close-up.

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All the way up to me and airs
roll where the celebs hang out.

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So check it out.

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The podcast is at
rocketfifteen.com where everyone
has 15 minutes of fame.

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That's kind of interesting.

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I didn't know people took the
clothes off at the Kentucky
Derby.

52:17.660 --> 52:21.660
Hello, this is Ron Stevens, the
host of the AwareTech podcast
series.

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AwareTech is different.

52:23.660 --> 52:27.660
I promise you than any other
series of podcasts you will ever
tune into.

52:27.660 --> 52:28.660
AwareTech is diverse.

52:28.660 --> 52:35.660
But the common theme tying
together all of the podcasts is
that they are concerned with our
future as a culture and as a
society.

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My background is in science and
technology and I am particularly
interested in how the rapid
developments in these fields are
going to affect our society and
our culture in the near and the
far future.

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And I address this from many
different angles.

52:48.660 --> 52:59.660
So different podcasts will take
on scientific or technological
areas, but also economic,
social, even political and
religious impacts.

52:59.660 --> 53:03.660
It's the diversity that will
surprise you the most about
AwareTech.

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I take on scientific and
technological topics, but I also
take on economic and even
political and even religious
topics.

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And somehow I keep a common
theme of how the future will
unfold with respect to all of
the changes that are occurring
so dynamically in so many
different fields at this point
in time.

53:22.660 --> 53:27.660
And I certainly am also
concerned with what can we do
about the future and how can we
make it better.

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Not just sitting back and
analyzing, but what can we
individually and collectively do
that might impact the future for
ourselves and our children in a
better way to come out with a
better outcome.

53:40.660 --> 53:48.660
So stop by and check it out. I
think you'll find it
interesting. I think you'll find
it educational and hopefully go
find it very entertaining.

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Okay, what was I thinking
letting the announcer guy host
to show this time? Now I'll have
to do the announcing.

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Let me see, 3, 2, 1. It's time
for the hit test.

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Okay, let's go.

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I can do this.

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3, 2, 1.

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It's time for the hit test.

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With an announcer guy Kevin.

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Hello, Adam.

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I captured your guy Kevin here.

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All right.

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Here are my birthday.

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Young was nice enough to let me
come out from behind the mic so
to speak and pick out the songs
for today's hit test.

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There was no way I could narrow
down my all-time favorites to
just 3.

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So instead, I decided to pick
out 3 songs that sort of
embodied the image of my high
school days.

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Okay.

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Okay. You know how it works.

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3 intros.

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3 answers.

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So here we go.

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Here's intro number one.

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Oh, yeah.

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I wonder what is high school
days comprised of.

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Okay. I think you're hearing
this one.

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You probably went to school a
little bit before me, Kevin.

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An announcer guy Kevin.

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That's, um, of course.

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No static FM.

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No static at all.

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Classic.

54:53.660 --> 54:54.660
Classic.

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This is intro number two.

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Uh, let's do the brothers.

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I know it's a dubies.

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I don't remember the five notes.

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To be brothers.

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And finally, here's intro number
three.

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Uh, you know, uh,

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uh, you know, uh,

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that's coming to me.

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So I'm the same thing.

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That's coming to me.

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So I'm the same period.

55:31.660 --> 55:33.660
Well, of course, it's his high
school day.

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I don't know. I give up on that.

55:35.660 --> 55:37.660
It's kind of all the same genre.

55:37.660 --> 55:39.660
Uh, so what do we have first?

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Steely Dan.

55:41.660 --> 55:42.660
Okay. Adam.

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Time's up.

55:43.660 --> 55:44.660
Let's see how well you did.

55:44.660 --> 55:45.660
Okay.

55:45.660 --> 55:46.660
Here's answer number one.

55:46.660 --> 55:51.660
The title track from the movie
that every self-respecting radio
DJ has a copy of.

55:51.660 --> 55:54.660
And from the awesome WLP
soundtrack of the same name.

55:54.660 --> 55:57.660
There's Steely Dan giving us no
static at all with FM.

55:57.660 --> 55:58.660
Yeah.

55:58.660 --> 55:59.660
Yeah.

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I've been ready.

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It was very much like
podcasting.

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At least content wise in those
days.

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Not like the distribution, of
course, of podcast.

56:12.660 --> 56:15.660
It was wacky, man. Anything we
got.

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By the way, mainstream media
said,

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FM will never work. No one
cares.

56:25.660 --> 56:27.660
No static at all.

56:28.660 --> 56:29.660
No static at all.

56:32.660 --> 56:33.660
No static at all.

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That was answer number one.

56:39.660 --> 56:40.660
Steely Dan with FM.

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Here's answer number two.

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Uh, I can hear the booming now
from the Jensen speakers on the
back deck of my 68 Chevy

56:48.660 --> 56:49.660
Impala.

56:49.660 --> 56:52.660
This is the Dooby Brothers with
Dippenden on you.

56:53.750 --> 57:28.660
[ Music ]

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Today's special announced or guy
addition of the hit test.

57:31.660 --> 57:32.660
The Dooby Brothers.

57:32.660 --> 57:34.660
Now answer number three.

57:34.660 --> 57:35.660
It was tough.

57:35.660 --> 57:39.660
Serving is a small homage if
you're tripped into New York and
a song that definitely

57:39.660 --> 57:41.660
here marks my high school era.

57:41.660 --> 57:44.660
Here's the boss singing about
Broadway lights on the dice.

57:44.660 --> 57:45.660
This is Joe Joe.

57:45.660 --> 57:49.660
This should know now.

57:49.660 --> 57:52.660
Joe Joe.

57:52.660 --> 57:53.660
This should know now.

57:56.250 --> 58:18.660
[ Music ]

58:18.660 --> 58:20.660
Great song.

58:20.660 --> 58:25.660
Boss Caves with a third and
final answer wrapping up this
special edition of the hit

58:25.660 --> 58:27.660
to a nice email out.

58:27.660 --> 58:31.660
Well, Adam, if I did a good job,
not only are you three for
three, but you were saying,

58:31.660 --> 58:32.660
Yeah.

58:32.660 --> 58:33.660
Yeah.

58:33.660 --> 58:34.660
I hope you like them.

58:34.660 --> 58:35.660
Yeah.

58:35.660 --> 58:38.660
Well, let me come out from
behind the mic on some special
occasion in the future.

58:38.660 --> 58:42.660
And I'll pick out some more 70s
and early 80s for you.

58:42.660 --> 58:46.660
As always, feedback is welcome
at hittest at gmail.com

58:46.660 --> 58:51.660
and more information about the
hittest can be found by going to
youngpollip.nl or dot com.

58:51.660 --> 58:55.660
That's J.A. and P.O. L.E.T. dot
nl or dot com.

58:55.660 --> 58:57.660
Thanks for letting me do this.

58:57.660 --> 59:02.660
Yon, I had a lot of fun. Adam,
Yon, I'll be back next time for
another edition of the hit

59:02.660 --> 59:03.660
to ride on.

59:03.660 --> 59:04.660
Bye for now.

59:04.660 --> 59:05.660
Thank you very much, Kevin.

59:05.660 --> 59:07.660
An ounce of guy and of course,
youngpollip.

59:07.660 --> 59:10.660
And of course, the hittest will,
I love the hittest.

59:10.660 --> 59:12.660
Now, I'm going to continue to do
that on the daily source code.

59:12.660 --> 59:15.660
Maybe Kevin, you create your own
version of a hittest.

59:15.660 --> 59:18.660
And there's something we can
throw up on the serious as well.

59:18.660 --> 59:23.660
And it just hit me, you know,
now I know how to do the serious
stuff.

59:23.660 --> 59:30.660
Yeah, so if you are podcasting
and you want your podcast
promoted,

59:30.660 --> 59:31.660
it'll go.

59:31.660 --> 59:34.660
So if you submit it, it'll go
out on the serious show.

59:34.660 --> 59:38.660
But then, of course, well, I
think the cool thing will be as
a place we can go see

59:38.660 --> 59:41.660
what was played, what was
promoted, will have the XML,

59:41.660 --> 59:48.660
you know, the subscribe links
on, we'll put up a special
website for, I guess.

59:48.660 --> 59:51.660
And maybe, and I'll have to talk
to Andrew Grumman about this.

59:51.660 --> 59:55.660
And you know, with GigaDial.net,
maybe the cool way to do it is
you can,

59:55.660 --> 01:00:00.660
if you want, you could
reassemble all of those
different shows that we
promoted,

01:00:00.660 --> 01:00:02.660
and you could subscribe to them.

01:00:02.660 --> 01:00:05.660
So maybe that's like an OPML
file that you can, you know,
just drop in and

01:00:05.660 --> 01:00:07.660
automatically subscribe to
whatever was heard.

01:00:07.660 --> 01:00:10.660
Of course, it would be important
that you could unsubscribe from

01:00:10.660 --> 01:00:12.660
shows just as easily.

01:00:12.660 --> 01:00:16.660
I haven't found that
functionality in any, I potter
aggregator yet any,

01:00:16.660 --> 01:00:20.660
any way to, you know, I guess
you can, you can drop in a whole
list of,

01:00:20.660 --> 01:00:24.660
of podcast feeds, but I'd like
the capability to, you know,

01:00:24.660 --> 01:00:26.660
take them out as well as a
group.

01:00:26.660 --> 01:00:29.660
So let's say that would just be
a great way to sample new stuff.

01:00:29.660 --> 01:00:31.660
Because, you know, I'm already
at, what am I like now?

01:00:31.660 --> 01:00:33.660
Like we're at an hour now on
today's show.

01:00:33.660 --> 01:00:37.660
And I'm just catching up on
potting on promos and stuff I
want to play.

01:00:37.660 --> 01:00:41.660
So, um, kind of think about how
to do that.

01:00:41.660 --> 01:00:43.660
Okay, time for a call with
Andrew.

01:00:43.660 --> 01:00:44.660
That's for sure.

01:00:47.660 --> 01:00:48.660
Podcasting.

01:00:48.660 --> 01:00:50.660
What is the real potential for
this new media?

01:00:50.660 --> 01:00:53.660
What impact will it have on
independent musicians?

01:00:53.660 --> 01:00:56.660
These questions nobody can
answer.

01:00:56.660 --> 01:00:58.660
Okay, maybe Adam Curry can
answer.

01:00:58.660 --> 01:01:01.660
But I thought, what a better way
to join the party than to
produce

01:01:01.660 --> 01:01:03.660
my own little podcast.

01:01:03.660 --> 01:01:04.660
I loved it.

01:01:04.660 --> 01:01:05.660
CC radio.

01:01:05.660 --> 01:01:11.660
And it's a bi-weekly podcast,
audio journal, slash radio show.

01:01:11.660 --> 01:01:15.660
Hello, my name's Chris Conley
and I live in Boston, which is
home to one of the

01:01:15.660 --> 01:01:17.660
northeast greatest live music
scenes.

01:01:17.660 --> 01:01:21.660
So join me bi-weekly for my
podcast about the music scene
here for my

01:01:21.660 --> 01:01:22.660
perspective.

01:01:22.660 --> 01:01:26.660
I'm also a music educator and
I'll have interviews with other
musicians,

01:01:26.660 --> 01:01:29.660
teachers, and interesting
perspectives on the music
business.

01:01:30.660 --> 01:01:33.660
In this crazy little thing we
call bug gusting.

01:01:33.660 --> 01:01:35.660
Just subscribe to my podcast.

01:01:35.660 --> 01:01:40.660
Please feed your podcast and
client my feed feeds dot feed
burner dot com slash

01:01:40.660 --> 01:01:41.660
CC radio.

01:01:41.660 --> 01:01:51.660
I rock radio playing the best
Oklahoma has to offer from the
independent music scene.

01:01:51.660 --> 01:01:56.660
I rock radio rock radio rock in
the planes.

01:01:56.660 --> 01:01:58.660
I rock radio dot com.

01:01:58.660 --> 01:02:00.660
I are okay.

01:02:00.660 --> 01:02:02.660
Radio dot com.

01:02:02.660 --> 01:02:03.660
Everybody.

01:02:03.660 --> 01:02:04.660
I rock.

01:02:04.660 --> 01:02:05.660
Okay.

01:02:05.660 --> 01:02:09.660
Stuff heating up in the music
scene for podcasting.

01:02:09.660 --> 01:02:11.660
We're starting to get it
together.

01:02:11.660 --> 01:02:12.660
I'm really digging that.

01:02:12.660 --> 01:02:17.660
That's probably going to be if
anything's going to be really
successful in podcasting

01:02:17.660 --> 01:02:21.660
that has just been waiting for
podcasting to happen.

01:02:21.660 --> 01:02:25.660
I really believe it's going to
be the concept of pod save music
and how we can create

01:02:25.660 --> 01:02:32.660
our own music industry
completely routing around
whatever is out there.

01:02:32.660 --> 01:02:33.660
We're going to help in that.

01:02:33.660 --> 01:02:34.660
You better believe it.

01:02:34.660 --> 01:02:38.660
The pod save music network is
going to be hopefully a big part
of that.

01:02:38.660 --> 01:02:46.660
A place where podcasters can go
and easily build a community or
tap into an existing community

01:02:46.660 --> 01:02:52.660
actually to find out what's
being played and really become
the intermediary.

01:02:52.660 --> 01:02:59.660
It's like the old days when
Kevin the announcer guy, I guess
those days of FM radio,

01:02:59.660 --> 01:03:03.660
that's when you'd have a
disjockey would literally say,
I'd love this song.

01:03:03.660 --> 01:03:04.660
I'd love this band.

01:03:04.660 --> 01:03:05.660
I've saw these guys play.

01:03:05.660 --> 01:03:06.660
I spoke to them.

01:03:06.660 --> 01:03:08.660
I hook up with them.

01:03:08.660 --> 01:03:09.660
Listen to this.

01:03:09.660 --> 01:03:10.660
This is good stuff.

01:03:10.660 --> 01:03:13.660
That's what we've been missing
on the internet with independent
music.

01:03:13.660 --> 01:03:15.660
To sample music is a pain right.

01:03:15.660 --> 01:03:18.660
Or it was a pain until I think
podcasters came along.

01:03:18.660 --> 01:03:20.660
Now we have all these great
places to go to.

01:03:21.660 --> 01:03:23.660
So see it in music podcasting.

01:03:23.660 --> 01:03:27.660
And just, I've been listening to
accident hash for a long time.

01:03:27.660 --> 01:03:29.660
I just heard two other podcasts.

01:03:29.660 --> 01:03:33.660
We can pick up some great pod
save music and just enjoy it.

01:03:33.660 --> 01:03:38.660
And then what we want to
facilitate is a place where you
can easily go and buy it.

01:03:38.660 --> 01:03:45.660
And that will be a great place
for artists to make some money
off of all this.

01:03:45.660 --> 01:03:49.660
It does help if you can pay rent
and you like performing your
art.

01:03:49.660 --> 01:03:54.660
And if you want to support the
pod safe music, then you can
support each individual artist.

01:03:54.660 --> 01:03:57.660
You can find out about it by
listening to different types of
shows.

01:03:57.660 --> 01:04:00.660
Because, well, like CC likes to
send me a lot of rock stuff.

01:04:00.660 --> 01:04:02.660
There's also, oh, man.

01:04:02.660 --> 01:04:04.660
I think let me see if I have it
here.

01:04:04.660 --> 01:04:06.660
It's the, here it is.

01:04:06.660 --> 01:04:09.660
This is Monday, May 2nd, 2005.

01:04:09.660 --> 01:04:11.660
And you're listening to
speechless.

01:04:11.660 --> 01:04:12.660
This is cool.

01:04:12.660 --> 01:04:16.660
This is instrumental pod safe
music.

01:04:16.660 --> 01:04:18.660
Actually, I think I played a
promo for the show before.

01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:22.660
But, you know, instrumental
music comes in all forms.

01:04:22.660 --> 01:04:26.660
A lot of techno, but also
classical, you name it.

01:04:26.660 --> 01:04:27.660
It's there.

01:04:27.660 --> 01:04:29.660
This is listening to a little
piece of this speech.

01:04:29.660 --> 01:04:30.660
This is a show number six.

01:04:30.660 --> 01:04:31.660
Welcome to speechless.

01:04:31.660 --> 01:04:33.660
This is a show about new
instrumental music.

01:04:33.660 --> 01:04:36.660
And you are listening to episode
number six.

01:04:36.660 --> 01:04:37.660
My name is Luke Stark.

01:04:37.660 --> 01:04:39.660
I will be your host this
evening.

01:04:39.660 --> 01:04:42.660
And this is a special episode
for two reasons.

01:04:42.660 --> 01:04:46.660
This is the Luke is in the dog
house with the little woman
episode.

01:04:47.660 --> 01:04:51.660
Oh, I thought Michael Butler had
a trademark on the head into
what that means later in the
show.

01:04:51.660 --> 01:04:52.660
All right.

01:04:52.660 --> 01:04:53.660
The speechless podcast.

01:04:53.660 --> 01:04:55.660
You want to listen to
instrumental pod safe music.

01:04:55.660 --> 01:05:01.660
And of course, links to all of
these shows will be in the show
notes at dailysourcecode.com.

01:05:01.660 --> 01:05:02.660
Hi.

01:05:02.660 --> 01:05:03.660
Hello.

01:05:03.660 --> 01:05:04.660
This is Lily.

01:05:04.660 --> 01:05:07.660
The world's youngest podcast
dude.

01:05:07.660 --> 01:05:08.660
I'm three.

01:05:08.660 --> 01:05:10.660
Spending you a message.

01:05:11.660 --> 01:05:12.660
I'm a cry.

01:05:12.660 --> 01:05:15.660
It's over three presents.com.

01:05:15.660 --> 01:05:18.660
Watch your strength to the
people.

01:05:18.660 --> 01:05:21.660
Press the nation's capital.

01:05:21.660 --> 01:05:22.660
Ottawa.

01:05:22.660 --> 01:05:24.660
Ontario.

01:05:24.660 --> 01:05:26.660
Canada.

01:05:26.660 --> 01:05:28.660
I didn't call the queen.

01:05:28.660 --> 01:05:30.660
Don't just make it up.

01:05:30.660 --> 01:05:31.660
Hi dad.

01:05:31.660 --> 01:05:35.660
This is the daily source code.

01:05:35.660 --> 01:05:39.660
And ask me to send you this
message.

01:05:39.660 --> 01:05:41.660
I'm glad it's spring again.

01:05:41.660 --> 01:05:43.660
I hope you have a good day at
spring.

01:05:43.660 --> 01:05:44.660
Oh, okay.

01:05:44.660 --> 01:05:46.660
And did you know Adam's in pain?

01:05:46.660 --> 01:05:47.660
Yeah.

01:05:47.660 --> 01:05:48.660
We don't have spring over here.

01:05:48.660 --> 01:05:51.660
Well, and can we help you?

01:05:51.660 --> 01:05:52.660
Give us a listen.

01:05:52.660 --> 01:05:55.660
H-O-Y-Street.com.

01:05:55.660 --> 01:05:56.660
He.

01:05:56.660 --> 01:05:58.660
He found podcasting.

01:05:58.660 --> 01:05:59.660
Rock R-B.

01:05:59.660 --> 01:06:01.660
Good guy.

01:06:01.660 --> 01:06:03.660
Very, very cute.

01:06:03.660 --> 01:06:05.660
Little G.

01:06:05.660 --> 01:06:06.660
Excellent.

01:06:06.660 --> 01:06:07.660
Excellent.

01:06:08.660 --> 01:06:09.660
Okay.

01:06:09.660 --> 01:06:11.660
So that's going to wrap it up
for today.

01:06:11.660 --> 01:06:12.660
What I didn't get to.

01:06:12.660 --> 01:06:15.660
But what I suggest you check out
is podcast brothers.

01:06:15.660 --> 01:06:17.660
They have interesting podcasts
talking about.

01:06:17.660 --> 01:06:18.660
I'm not.

01:06:18.660 --> 01:06:22.660
I don't know if they're involved
in the Disney 50th celebration
podcast or not.

01:06:22.660 --> 01:06:27.660
I think Michael Gohagan is
either producing it or put the
deal together.

01:06:27.660 --> 01:06:28.660
I went.

01:06:28.660 --> 01:06:29.660
I subscribe to it.

01:06:29.660 --> 01:06:32.660
And there is a podcast feed,
which of course put in the show
notes.

01:06:32.660 --> 01:06:34.660
But there were no files in it as
of yet.

01:06:34.660 --> 01:06:36.660
So I guess that's still
forthcoming.

01:06:36.660 --> 01:06:40.660
Interesting to see what's
happening with that.

01:06:40.660 --> 01:06:43.660
And if you listen to the podcast
brothers podcast.

01:06:43.660 --> 01:06:50.660
You hear that, you know, they're
going to have interviews with
the executives of Disney,

01:06:50.660 --> 01:06:54.660
with cast members, with actors,
all kinds of stuff.

01:06:54.660 --> 01:06:58.660
So it's pretty interesting to
see that Disney went outside of
their own internal,

01:06:58.660 --> 01:07:02.660
and of course they can do all
kinds of stuff that they want
with audio or whatever.

01:07:02.660 --> 01:07:05.660
But they went outside to go to
the podcast community to ask for
help to do that.

01:07:05.660 --> 01:07:08.660
So I think that's pretty
exciting and totally welcome
them.

01:07:08.660 --> 01:07:11.660
And I got a hurry up because
damn it's already.

01:07:11.660 --> 01:07:12.660
It's five to one.

01:07:12.660 --> 01:07:13.660
And Christina will be home
pretty soon.

01:07:13.660 --> 01:07:15.660
This is SAT week.

01:07:15.660 --> 01:07:17.660
They have sats over here in the
UK as well.

01:07:17.660 --> 01:07:21.660
And she's been studying really,
really hard and she has some
questions about trigonometry.

01:07:21.660 --> 01:07:25.660
And despite her better
judgements, he wants me to help
her out.

01:07:27.660 --> 01:07:28.660
Alrighty.

01:07:28.660 --> 01:07:29.660
That's it for the source code.

01:07:31.660 --> 01:07:32.660
I'll be back tomorrow.

01:07:33.660 --> 01:07:36.660
And this weekend, Patricia and I
are going to do in the podcast,

01:07:36.660 --> 01:07:39.660
except it won't be a regular
Patricia pie podcast.

01:07:39.660 --> 01:07:41.660
It's going to be a podcast.

01:07:41.660 --> 01:07:45.660
We're going to do together in
Dutch only for Dutch listeners.

01:07:45.660 --> 01:07:48.660
So we're going to hijack the
source code feed for that.

01:07:48.660 --> 01:07:50.660
So be on the lookout if you're
in Holland.

01:07:52.660 --> 01:07:56.660
And that's really because it's
time for us to tell a little bit
of our story.

01:07:56.660 --> 01:07:58.660
We've been in the press.

01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:02.660
Almost nonstop in the
Netherlands for the past four or
five years.

01:08:02.660 --> 01:08:07.660
Lots of it extremely negative
and unfair and ugly.

01:08:07.660 --> 01:08:12.660
And now you're all kinds of
avenues you can take and all
kinds of things you can do.

01:08:12.660 --> 01:08:15.660
And you know, when people write
lies about you,

01:08:15.660 --> 01:08:18.660
you can go and sue someone if
you want to.

01:08:18.660 --> 01:08:20.660
But I grew up in the weblog
world.

01:08:20.660 --> 01:08:22.660
So we're going to use the
infrastructure rebuild.

01:08:22.660 --> 01:08:27.660
We're going to use our podcast
to talk about the story from our
side.

01:08:27.660 --> 01:08:32.660
And that may be a continuing
ongoing story.

01:08:32.660 --> 01:08:36.660
I mean Patricia has a lot of
history to talk about in the
last five years.

01:08:36.660 --> 01:08:40.660
There's a lot of stuff that went
on that people don't know about.

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So that's going to be fun.

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And she's really excited about
it.

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And I like that a lot.

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So it's fun to work with your
wife if you have to,

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or any, you know, your spouse if
you have that possibility.

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And they're both into the same
thing.

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