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Your daily source code from
Monday may 16th 2005.

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Something remarkable is
happening here.

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Radio is springing free of the
regulated gatekeepers who've
managed what you can hear since
radio is invented.

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It's jumping into the hands of
anyone at all with something or
nothing to say.

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It was $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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It's the start of a new week on
the source code.

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Adam Curry coming to you from
Curry Cottage in lovely gilford.

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A nice suburb of London in
United Kingdom.

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Look out at the window not too
nice today.

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The weekend was just stellar
though.

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Unbelievable.

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They predicted wind and cloudy
skies.

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I guess it came one day late.

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It doesn't happen often but it's
good enough.

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So I had the time to just break
away from all things podcasting
computer.

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Anything going on in the office,
basically.

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Or the bedroom that we call an
office.

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Or that we sometimes call a
studio.

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Patricia came back Saturday.

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Wind commander William picked
her up in Rotterdam.

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And flew her over in the Sessner
182.

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Which is the plane I've been
training on.

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Which I will be acquiring once I
have my license and I've been
deemed safe enough to make the
crossing.

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Which could last half a year,
nine months, ten months, man.

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That's tough stuff.

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It really has nothing at all to
do with helicopter flying.

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I'll tell you that it's just
something completely different.

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But I am getting a little bit
more of the hang of it now.

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At least I'm making work
controlled landings.

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And I'm understanding the
navigation is so much better.

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Because on helicopters, you know
what I mean.

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Look out the window.

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Going slow enough to see where
you're going.

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If you want to turn left, right
go up or down.

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It's relatively simple.

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You can slow down to a stop and
mid-air.

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Just not that way with
airplanes.

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So it's nice.

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We flew around to different
airfields here in the
neighborhood.

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I was starting, of course, from
my home-based pharaohs.

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And then Booget, I'll see you on
Saturday after he brought
Patricia in.

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We went to...

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What was it?

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West London Aeroclob.

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That's New Barcher.

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And then Sunday we went to
Goodwood, which is also just
another flying club.

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And it's unbelievable.

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The culture of flying in this
country is just so fantastic.

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I mean, you land there on
Saturday or Sunday.

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And it's like you walk into a
Biggles novel.

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You know, if you know the
Biggles novels, I'll put a link
to something about Biggles in
the show notes for today's
podcast.

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But wow.

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And there's guys all decked out
and there's businessmen who are
clearly on their weekend off
just flying around.

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And everyone's having a good
time.

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And there's like 100 people in
the bar cafe.

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And just, you know, good time,
food, coffee, drinks.

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Really, really nice culture.

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And normally, certainly in the
Netherlands, if you come in,
certainly if you come in from
outside the country and say,
hey, you know, it's Saturday or
Sunday.

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We'd like to do some training
here on your airfield.

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And of course, you have to pay
for the touching goes and your
overland approaches and all
that.

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But most of them will say, well,
you know, sorry, this is for our
club members.

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And we just don't have time for
you.

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But everyone was really
courteous and they let us do as
many touches touching goes that
we needed.

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And it was just great.

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It was really a fun feeling.

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Great to be away from anything
else that was going on.

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You know, just, what when you're
flying this, you can basically,
at least I can only think about
one thing.

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That's flying because you get
distracted for three seconds.

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And, you know, that could be the
difference of 300 feet or it
could be the difference between
on track or off track or
forgetting something.

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It's important that could be a
real day record. So it was, it
was nice.

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I find that extremely relaxing,
even though I, you know, it's
hard work.

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You get really tired after a
couple of days of training.

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Excuse me.

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It was nice said that Patricia
enjoyed her flight from
Rotterdam to, to the airport
here.

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Because I was a little worried
that she wouldn't like the, the
small single-engine aircraft
vibe.

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This isn't really the smallest
Cessna, by the way.

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You know, you have the
two-seater, the 152, then you
have the four-seater, the 172.

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And this is the 182 with
retractable gear.

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I know I've talked about it a
million times, but I can't get
enough of it.

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It's my, my real hobby.

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And it's bigger. It's like a
cab.

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It's like a taxi cab that flies.

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But she had a great time. She
loved it.

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There was a lot of turbulence on
Saturday.

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I didn't mind that at all.

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William took her up to 3,000
feet and brought her straight in
for 3,000 feet all the way.

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And it was good.

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So that is a win in my book,
which means that once I am
actually approved to fly by
myself,

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and we can do some more that
she'll go with me, and we'll
have some fun together,

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and we can go exploring some
really, really looking forward
to that.

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If your name is Dave Weiner, you
may want to pay attention to
this podcast.

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Some of it pertains to you.

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But not this first song.

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This is a mashup.

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DJ Tripstrung this one together.

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We will rock Beverly Hills.

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Q-reaser.

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More about it in a second.

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Check it out.

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But you don't want to make a big
life.

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Pain in the street.

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Gonna be a big mashup.

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You got mud on your face.

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[ Music ]

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More about it.

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More about it.

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More about it.

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DJ Tripputed together. I'm just
looking over to the other
computer to the screen there. It
was a

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Weezer Beverly Hills Queens. We
will rock you Joan Jet. I love
rock and roll and Leonard
Skinner's

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Sweet Home Alabama and Link in
the show notes is or Link to
that is and all the information
about

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that mashup you can find in the
show notes at dailysourceco.com
or at curry.com. A lot of
questions

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always come in. Usually whenever
there's a new article that
appears about podcasting people

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want to know what kind of
equipment I use and what do I
use for sound seeing tours. By
the way,

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I've noticed that I guess it's
the way I pronounce sound seeing
tours that it often comes across

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as sound seen tours. So it took
me about six or eight weeks
before I figured out what are
these

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people talking about sound seen?
What's the sound seen? It's like
a sound scape or but it's just

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misunderstanding the
pronunciation sound seeing tour
and it's actually a website
which I have

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to update or at RSS feed. A
podcast feed for different sound
seeing tours. It's sound seeing

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tours.com. No wonder people
haven't been able to find it.
But many of the questions that
come in

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on email after an article about
podcasting appears are similar
to this one which came in an

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audio which I like. So let's
answer them right now. This is
Tyler Collins from What's Really
Going

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On podcast. I have a question.
Number one, what is the version
of your eye river?

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Okay. Oh yeah. Sorry that's the
this is newfangled megaseg. The
way it stops and starts.

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It's the IFP 799. I believe in
Europe it's actually the 899 and
I don't know if that's

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any difference in the models but
the model number seems to be 899
in Europe 799 in the states.

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What I like about the eye river
is you know it's a device that
you can create something on and
you can

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listen to something on it and it
works on the same device and you
can plug it on a microphone

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or you can switch the in jack to
a line in. So it really has all
the capabilities you need built

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into one little box and man the
battery one double a alkaline
battery lasts for fucking ever.

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So I think just on battery
charge alone it's a great little
device. As a built in radio
you're

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couldn't record from the radio
if you want although I'd never
have I think I've only listened
to the

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radio once or twice on this
thing but it's a great great
little great little gadget let's
see

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what's next question is your
talk what's going on. You use
whenever you do a portable
podcast

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and number two what version of
cast blaster or something
comparable would you suggest for
a Mac

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user. I am currently using
digital performer 4.5 I am a
music producer and I make that
work for me but

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it doesn't work on a broadcast
type level to where I can throw
in sweepers and promos and so
forth.

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I was just wondering about that
hope you're doing well. I enjoy
your show and keep up the great

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work man. All right Todd thank
you very much. Well I use cast
blaster a lot obviously but
that's only

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for the windows platform. One of
my Mac and I am a Mac guy being
my heart and my soul. I right

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currently I'm using something
called Megaseg and I'll put
another link in the show notes
to that

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which may be a little bit of
overkill for what most people
are looking for if you're
looking for

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a podcast we can line stuff up
and play list. Basically a
playlist where you can stop the
playlist

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the midstream or stop
automatically I guess the
automatic part is what I use it
for. You can insert

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a break and say okay stop here
and I'm going to talk here and
then when you want to go you
just hit

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a button and it plays the next
element. I started off using
actually just quick time players
just opening

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up each element that I wanted to
play in the podcast in a quick
time player and then just
basically

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highlighting the player that was
next and then hitting the space
bar which will make it play.

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That's a real easy way but of
course for recording purposes
it's a little bit tougher. I
have

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been using audio hijack pro
their new version recently for
recording because they now offer
a

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capability to record the entire
sound as produced on your Mac
which really makes your Mac one
big

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mixer and of course each
individual application that you
open so let's say it's a quick
time or

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maybe it's a real real player or
it could be a media player it
could be a whole bunch of
different

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things or Skype it doesn't
matter what it is as long as you
can hear it through the
headphones

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it'll record so that I really
like and you can also mix in
different applications if you
just want

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to hijack the microphone for
instance so audio hijack pro is
getting there but it certainly
doesn't

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the ease of use that I'd be
looking for in an application
that has the interface of
something like

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a cast blaster so nothing really
for the Mac yet we're all kind
of just string and stuff
together

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what I find doesn't work for me
definitely doesn't work as
garage band that doesn't work
for me

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what else about I think I've
tried just about everything so
yeah as I said currently I'm on
mega

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sagging that's that's working
okay for me and all this
computer talk makes me want to
roll out some

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pot-safe tunes from Ed Wright
well it's bound to ruin my life

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[ Music ]

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Oh no.

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You got me out.

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You got pictures.

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You got pictures of your mail.

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[ Music ]

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Come here, come here.

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Take it my wife.

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Oh, maybe it's taking you away
from your wife.

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Ed Wright, computer computer.

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Podsafe music on the daily
source code.

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If you don't know what Podsafe
music is,

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I'll reiterate the whole
concept.

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We can't play licensed music on
podcasts,

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whether that's just a legal
issue that we have to get over,

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or if it's a financial issue or
whatever it is,

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we just can't legally at this
moment.

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So what happened is we have lots
of,

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I mean, lots, tens, hundreds of
thousands of people

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creating songs on the computers,

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on the computer computers,

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and making it available for
podcasters to play in their
podcasters

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as long as you point them back
to the website.

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So of course, the link to Ed
Wright's computer computer

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will be in the show notes at
dailysourcecode.com.

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Found on the great podcasters,

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you know, in the broadcasting
that we talk about formats

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and formats are very different
from,

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well, then again, maybe not,

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but in computing and computer
engineering,

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you always talk about formats.

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For instance, let's see,

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you have RSS is a format.

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It's the way that information is
formatted,

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so that you can easily
understand it.

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A format and broadcasting,

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the simplest way to explain it
would be,

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for instance, a top 40 radio
station,

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looks at a format over each
hour,

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and then day parts,

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and then over 24 hour period,

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to really put a sequence of
songs

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into an hour that will hold the
audience the longest,

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I guess, is the only reason,

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and give you the most listening
pleasure,

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of course, formats have gotten
really tight,

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as we say in the business over
the years

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and have become a little bit
boring.

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But a typical top 44 mat may be

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where the hour starts off with a
big number one smash hit,

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and then it's followed by what
we call recurrent,

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so that may be something from
maybe 10 years ago,

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followed by something that's up
and coming,

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followed by something that's in
the bottom half of the top 40,

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followed by a brand new song, so
that's a format.

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That's how you fill up an hour.

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In podcasting, we're seeing
formats emerge as well,

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the hit test that young Paulette
does,

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and a young won't be able to do
a hit test every single day,

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if at all for the next coming
weeks,

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because he's in rehabilitation
for

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some medical stuff he's going
through,

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a young Paulette dot NL,

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as we can find out all about
that,

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and listen to the hit test
podcast.

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But the format of the show

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is of the little snippet that he
sends into me,

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is a good one,

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it's three segments of songs
that he thinks I'll know,

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and of course he gives me little
snippet of the song,

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and then replays this snippet of
the song,

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and then gives me a couple
seconds

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of thinking time to come up with
the answer,

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and then at the end he gives me
the answers and plays

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on a longer pieces of the songs.

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That format has now been copied,

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which is not a bad thing,

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is great, into a podcast called

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voices from the vault.

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Jerry Orkin does this,

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and let's play along with

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the show from the sixth of May.

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I love it.

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Good day everyone,

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welcome to the second episode of
Voices from the Vault.

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I've checked the stats from our
website,

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and it looks like about 60
people

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downloaded the first episode of
the podcast,

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so I'd like to thank everyone of
you for adding me,

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to your podcast downloader.

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I've also had some very
supportive feedback too,

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so thank you for that.

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I think I'll be incorporating
some suggestions

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that have been made into future
episodes.

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I'm going to try and do two
voices

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from the Vault podcast every
week,

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so stay tuned for some
challenging listening

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in the weeks and months to come.

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Today I'll be playing other
voices

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of three famous screen actors,

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your job is to guess who they
are before I give you the
answers.

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Up in your ears, and we'll begin

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with the first of today's voices
from the Vault.

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Try to do as your
high-the-met...

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if the... a message is a great
thing.

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It's a great thing you must
never tell anybody

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that there is a message at all.

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Ever.

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Did you get it?

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Try to do as your
high-the-met... if the... a
message is a great thing.

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It's a great thing you must
never tell anybody that there is
a message at all.

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Ever.

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I've already heard this show
once,

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so I'll just do the answers I
had when I heard the first time.

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The first one...

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Okay, this one I heard was...

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I didn't know.

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I didn't know.

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This is from the Vault.

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Sorry, dear.

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If this is the day,

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my emotional apparatus is...

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I know.

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I was plugged up with something.

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I'm convention pushing and
passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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If this is the day, my emotional
apparatus

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is plugged up with something.

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I'm convention pushing and
passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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So the first time I heard this,

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I thought it was Marlon Brando,

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but I knew it was the other guy
who crashed in his Porsche.

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I couldn't come with a name.

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Pretty hard one.

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This one should be a bit easier.

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Here it comes.

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Voice from the Vault.

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Number three.

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I still go back to my Prince now
living Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and
take a walk in everything

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still seems the same.

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Which I think is the great
beauty of this country

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is that even though we're still
culturally...

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We've also managed to maintain a
lot of our...

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the things that make this
country very special.

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I still go back to my Prince now
living Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and
take a walk in everything

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still seems the same.

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Which I think is the great
beauty of this country

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is that even though...

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See, I thought this one was
pretty easy when I heard it.

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I've heard off the bat.

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I heard the accent.

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I know it was in the cold
kidmas.

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I didn't know the first two, but
I certainly had this last.

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Special.

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The cold kidman.

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The cold kidman.

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Right now it's time for the
answers.

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The first of today's voices from
the Vault.

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Screenwriter, director,
director, director.

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Mel Brooks.

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Ah, the thousand year old man.

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A thousand year old man.

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A thousand year old man.

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A message is a great thing.

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It's a great thing.

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You mustn't ever tell anybody
that there is a message.

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It'll ever.

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The second voice from the Vault.

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Taken from the interview on the
set of the movie

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Rebel without a cause.

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James Steeze.

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I was close.

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This is the day.

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My emotional apparatus is...

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I was plugged up or something.

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I'm convention pushing and
passion pumping.

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It's not coming easy for me.

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And the final voice from the
Vault.

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That very modern movie star.

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Nicole Kittman.

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I still go back to my prince now
live in Greenwich.

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And I still go back there and
take a walk in everything still
seems the same.

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Which I think is the great
beauty of this country is that
even though we're still
culturally

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right on top of it, we're also
managed to maintain a lot of our
things that make this country
very special.

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Send feedback to feedback at
voices from the Vault.com.

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Your suggestions are always
welcome.

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Until next time.

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Goodbye from voices from the
Vault.

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Jerry Orkin with voices from the
Vault.

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Awesome.

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Awesome podcast.

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The highly interactive voice
really works for me.

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From the Vault.

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Because the minute you're
sitting there looking at your
MP3 player and yelling at it,
thinking

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you have the answer, I call that
the epitome of interactivity.

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Absolutely fantastic.

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Love that format.

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The way it's started to morph
into something new, fantastic.

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Of course, a pointer to that
podcast in the show notes as
well for today.

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So last Friday I was wrapping up
the week.

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It had been a real long week for
me.

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Patricia was out of town.

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So I was doing double duty as
Mr. Mom.

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And then, do I miss all the
stuff she does?

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Taking care of Christina, of
course.

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And I was in the kitchen
cooking.

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I had the crap top with me.

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That's my laptop.

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The tablet.

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The craplet.

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There you go.

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And I used that for Skype.

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And I can connect the iTunes on
that to the iTunes up stairs in
the office.

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So I can just listen to
whatever's coming in.

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So I basically have one place
where my podcasts are updated
through my iPodder.

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And I can just stream that to
any other computer I want to.

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So I only have to have it in one
spot.

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Works really well.

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And I'm subscribed to Dave
Winner's Morning Coffee Notes.

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And really religiously read
scripting.com.

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And you can imagine how really
delighted I was when I heard the
end of his Friday podcast

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and he said the following.

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My name is Dave Winner.

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It's Friday the 13th.

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One more thing to call out to
Adam Curry who's got his pod
show on serious is Dave viewing
right now as we speak.

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I wish I could listen to it.

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I don't have a serious satellite
radio, but I'm going to be
listening to the, you know,

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where everybody has to say about
it.

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Good luck to you Adam.

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Knock him dead.

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Break a leg.

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You know, all of us that shit.

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And I don't know.

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Boy.

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Okay, everybody.

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See you all later.

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Bye.

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This is Dave.

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So you can imagine I was like
really elated.

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I was so, I mean, that was such
a nice thing for him to do.

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Particularly because he's
starting on Friday.

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I knew that he was going to
start the first podcast on KU
radio in San Francisco on
Monday.

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And so I was like, oh man,
that's really cool.

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I got to make sure I say
something back in my podcast.

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And it really had been a tough
week.

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It worked very hard on putting
the first four hours of serious
together.

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And I knew how to work over the
weekend.

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Do some more work for the coming
week.

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So it was nice.

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It was just one of those things
like, wow, man.

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That's, that's an olive branch
for sure.

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And then over the weekend, a
wired article came out written
by Jenny Jardin from,

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was just a lot of things.

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Actually, it was a, a written
interview from something we did
on a,

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her NPR piece.

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She does a, I guess, a
technology report on NPR.

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So we had a couple of chats.

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Very, very nice, by the way, I
had never met her only,

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I've been reading, boring,
boring.

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So it was kind of nice to get a
voice to the, to the face.

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And of course, I'm trying to get
her to start a podcast.

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I think she'd be perfect for
one.

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And the article, it was a very
flattering article.

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There was about me.

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What did she call it?

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She called it to communicate
with the pod father or something
like that.

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And Dave just went off on this.

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He went off on me in such an
incredibly hurtful manner on
scripting.com.

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He wrote, he wrote about this,
this article.

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And then, you know, he calls me
horrible things.

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And I was like, whoa, this, it
really, really blew me away.

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And I'm not going to, you know,
read what he wrote on
scripting.com.

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You can go and check that out
for yourself.

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And I'll put a link to it in the
show notes.

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But by coincidence, I did find a
kind of a mashup montage sitting
on

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his server on this morning
coffee note server that I, I
don't know who made it.

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But it is on his server.

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So I'll, I'll share it with you.

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It's, it's called the curry
collage.

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And I guess it'll give you the
kind of an idea of what this
article says.

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It's Adam Curry.

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You are a bitch.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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I apologize.

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I'm a dick.

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So dick some respect.

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Wacky stuff.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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Oh, yeah.

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You know, I'm an idiot.

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I'm an idiot.

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It's dick.

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I'm an idiot.

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You know, I'm an idiot.

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You don't get so much fat.

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I'm bad about what you're
hearing that wild cherry sign.

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I was like, what's that?

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I can 70, you say 78.

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Something like that.

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Really think I give a shit.

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Oh, what a hell of dick.

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I'm a dick.

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Touch anything sniff it all.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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Touch it.

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You're a bad man and you made me
cry.

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I hate you.

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What?

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You know, I'm an idiot.

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He owed the key mode.

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He owed the key mode.

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Have you been drinking?

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Oh, yeah.

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Snippin TV.

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Let's be a dick.

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Touch anything.

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Oh, good good.

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What a dick.

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That dick.

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What you just said is one of the
most insanely idiotic things I
have ever heard.

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At no point will you even close
to anything that could be
considered irrational but

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Everyone in this room is now
dumber for having left into it.

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So that kind of sums up what
Dave wrote about me and

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Wow, I was like how am I going
to respond to this?

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I think the best way for me to
respond is to kind of let you
know how I feel.

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And then I want to talk about
why I think this is happening.

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And so the first, I'll play a
song now.

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The only really way I know how
to express my feelings about
what's going on

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with how this craziness.

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Isn't it strange?

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[ Music ]

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Roger from In Twine sums it up

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Happy on the Daily Source Code

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So I guess, and it's really, I
don't feel happy

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That Dave was resorted to name
calling, which I think is so
totally unfair

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Because it's all about credit

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Who created podcasting, who
created this, who created that

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What Dave accuses me of
continuously is if not giving
him proper credit

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And what boggles my mind is that
he would for one minute think

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That when you have a publication
that has editors and all kinds
of people in the mix

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And it's not a weblog that you
would think that the only people

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Who get written incorrectly
about as you Dave

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You know, Jenny Jardin actually
was also blown away by what you
wrote

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And she said that today, Monday,
she would be posting

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The rest of the interview that
was cut out by her editors

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Where not only did I credit you
but talk about all the work that
you had done

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But also Chris Lydon's work and
many other people who
contributed to podcasting as it
is today

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Including a Denny Gregoire who
came up with the name

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It's like, you know, I didn't
write the interview

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And this happens all the time

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And this is what happened in
January when we were in Miami

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This roller coaster ride with
Dave is like one day

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It's great and then the next
second it's all the way down

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And it's very, very tiring

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And the only thing I can really
grom out of all this

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And I've seen it happen a couple
of times is that you just want
to be famous

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And you are, you know, and I
think you don't have to go
asking for credit all the time

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By the way, if you go to a bank
and ask for credit, you never
get it

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So you know, don't expect any
other large institution to give
you credit

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Particularly not if you might
have burned some bridges

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Because, you know, sometimes you
come across very crass

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And people who hold the
microphone or hold the camera

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Remember that shit and they may
not be holding it forever

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But, you know, don't expect them
to turn around and be giving you
credit

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Which is totally within the
control of the person who has
the credit to give

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Which is not me, it's the
publications who are publicizing
this

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I've written all the time about
the work that you've done

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And I'm not going to go back and
call every single interview

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Or tell them that they're an
idiot or that they're a dickhead

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The words you used, you know, on
me

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Because they wrote their story,
it's the story they were
interested in writing

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So, it's very, very unfortunate

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And I really can only chalk it
up to the fact that you feel
that you just not famous

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Be careful what you wish for

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I want to be famous, I want to
wear minks and sattens and
pearls

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[ Music ]

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Talk to my assistant

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I want to be famous, I want to
have eyes as blue as the sea

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[ Music ]

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When I'm famous, famous, famous

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So exhausting

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[ Music ]

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Then ask that the throats of my
enemies

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Man, I want to be famous, I want
to have eyes as blue as the sea

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I want to be my famous better
than all of my fellow much
better than all of her

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[ Music ]

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Philosophia's, famous on the
source of code of apologies for
the dropout

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My Mac is not cooperating as it
usually does

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So I've been famous in one form
another since I was 19 years old
and believe me

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There's not been a single single
interview or publication
anywhere that has gotten the
story completely right

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And it's just the way it goes
and people take pot shots at you
all the time and say the most
mean and hurtful things

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And often they think, hey, you
know, you're a celebrity, you
know, deal with it

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Or that's what you could pay for
when you're in the public, you
know

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That's why I've been such a
supporter of Michael Jackson

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Because I, you know, certainly
knowing him having met him once
or twice, you know, I, you know,
this just certain things I don't

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I don't buy into and I know how
it can spin out a control and
Dave is doing a real good job

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But you're really making me look
bad and it's just not fair
because this is the way
publications go

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And I'd suggest you go out and,
you know, do some interviews and
put your story out there

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And, you know, and get your
voice heard or if you don't
believe in the mainstream media

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They don't read it, you know,
that's just the way it goes

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You should know much better than
that and it's really
disappointing to hear the way
you think of me

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So, I will leave all of us now
with the very wise words of
Connie Francis

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And it's the last I'm going to
say about her

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