WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:11.520 ... 00:11.520 --> 00:18.240 ... 00:18.240 --> 00:21.020 Oh, here she is again, our pot. 00:21.020 --> 00:23.860 A lot of people reacted. 00:23.860 --> 00:25.660 Oh yeah, that's a pot. 00:26.860 --> 00:28.860 Our Marlene. Wait a second, I need to... 00:28.860 --> 00:30.140 Terrible attitude, do you think? 00:30.140 --> 00:32.020 Wait, I have to do the disclaimer for a moment. 00:33.300 --> 00:34.260 Just a moment, Marlene. 00:34.820 --> 00:39.940 The intellectual property of this podcast is at peace with Currie Pie. 00:40.620 --> 00:44.260 Unreliable use of any material from this podcast 00:44.260 --> 00:49.420 forms an impact on copyright, copyright and copyright of Currie and Pie. 00:51.540 --> 00:53.460 It's a pity that you're sitting there like this. 00:54.340 --> 00:55.900 Who said it? Normally, or me, by her. 00:55.900 --> 00:57.740 But necessary. 00:57.820 --> 00:59.260 Yes, oh man. 00:59.260 --> 01:01.100 It's really terrible. 01:01.100 --> 01:04.620 Hey, everyone, this is a right for the podcast. 01:04.620 --> 01:05.620 The second one. 01:07.260 --> 01:11.860 Today is Tuesday, what is it, the 17th? 01:11.860 --> 01:13.380 May 17th, right? 01:13.380 --> 01:14.220 Yes. 01:14.220 --> 01:16.260 Miss, what? Wait a minute, is there something? 01:16.260 --> 01:17.180 What? 01:17.180 --> 01:19.540 My mother is 21-year-old. 01:19.540 --> 01:21.180 Oh shit, how late is it? 01:21.180 --> 01:22.460 How late is it? 01:22.460 --> 01:23.620 Let's see. 01:23.700 --> 01:28.140 In New York it's 5.30 am, in San Francisco it's 5.30 am. 01:28.140 --> 01:29.060 Oh shit. 01:29.060 --> 01:30.420 How late is it? We still have time. 01:30.420 --> 01:31.340 Yes, we still have time. 01:31.340 --> 01:32.940 I already know what they want. 01:32.940 --> 01:34.740 They want a big ball of wheat now. 01:34.740 --> 01:36.540 And now they have it. 01:36.540 --> 01:37.580 Yes, but is that nice? 01:37.580 --> 01:39.220 But then you have to tell them. 01:39.220 --> 01:39.580 Have you told them? 01:39.580 --> 01:40.100 Yes. 01:42.700 --> 01:43.940 Yes, my mother is still young. 01:43.940 --> 01:45.100 Yes, my mother is very young. 01:45.100 --> 01:47.340 She is 65 years old, isn't she? 01:47.340 --> 01:49.340 65, 64 years old, isn't she? 01:49.340 --> 01:49.900 No. 01:49.900 --> 01:50.500 66? 01:50.500 --> 01:51.140 Yes. 01:51.140 --> 01:51.660 Sure? 01:51.660 --> 01:53.020 Yes, 10 years older than me. 01:53.020 --> 01:56.700 And she is 66 years old, I think that's it. 01:56.700 --> 02:01.220 And she has, with the year change, 02:01.220 --> 02:04.660 right before that, she was diagnosed with cancer, lung cancer. 02:04.660 --> 02:09.020 And she was able to get a long way and she lives. 02:09.020 --> 02:10.300 She can live happily. 02:10.300 --> 02:13.820 Yes, that is of course unfucking believable. 02:13.820 --> 02:15.500 But she has a lot of pain, of course. 02:15.500 --> 02:16.780 She has a lot of pain. 02:16.780 --> 02:17.700 Of the operation. 02:17.700 --> 02:20.700 And that is also a pretty bad year that you have, a long period of time. 02:20.700 --> 02:25.180 You are completely open-minded and broken-knit and cut. 02:25.180 --> 02:26.180 Cut and saw. 02:26.180 --> 02:27.180 What do you think? 02:27.180 --> 02:28.180 Oh man. 02:28.180 --> 02:31.860 So she has tried everything and I still say, take a nice beer. 02:31.860 --> 02:33.140 Not smoking, of course. 02:33.140 --> 02:37.100 Well, you then have to say, try that now. 02:37.100 --> 02:38.100 Try that now. 02:38.100 --> 02:38.700 Yes. 02:38.700 --> 02:40.980 And ... 02:40.980 --> 02:44.220 Yes, she says, because she hasn't seen it in the Hermes family. 02:44.220 --> 02:48.500 Yes, she doesn't dare to, because I once made tea for you and you were going to hallucinate. 02:48.500 --> 02:49.500 Yes, yes, hello. 02:49.500 --> 02:50.500 It's a whole tree. 02:50.500 --> 02:51.500 Stronk. 02:51.500 --> 02:52.500 God, of course. 02:52.500 --> 02:53.500 I had flicked it. 02:53.500 --> 02:59.180 No, so there was a nervousness about it and I then ... and she called me, right before mother's 02:59.180 --> 03:00.180 day. 03:00.180 --> 03:01.180 Yes. 03:01.180 --> 03:02.180 A couple of days before. 03:02.180 --> 03:04.900 She said, well, I just want to try everything, now I don't care. 03:04.900 --> 03:06.060 I say, well, I'll send it. 03:06.060 --> 03:11.220 So I called taxi Eric, of course, yes, I can still say that taxi Eric reacted. 03:11.220 --> 03:14.020 You can't buy it in the Netherlands, it's not against the law. 03:14.020 --> 03:15.020 At least it is. 03:15.020 --> 03:17.020 Well, yes, let the boy rest. 03:17.020 --> 03:19.020 Ah, he thinks that's nice. 03:19.020 --> 03:26.020 And well, so they say, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 03:26.020 --> 03:27.020 blah, blah, blah. 03:27.020 --> 03:30.940 And she called the next day and said, well, I made soup of it, I can record the recipe 03:30.940 --> 03:31.940 on the Internet. 03:31.940 --> 03:32.940 Yes, that didn't help. 03:32.940 --> 03:33.940 I had a lot of flicking in there. 03:33.940 --> 03:34.940 It was so dirty. 03:34.940 --> 03:35.940 I didn't get rid of it. 03:35.940 --> 03:36.940 Yes. 03:36.940 --> 03:39.380 She said, no, make some tea and then it came back to the story of you up there. 03:39.380 --> 03:44.940 Yes, it doesn't, it doesn't, you see, if you just put tea in it, make it 03:44.940 --> 03:49.900 deliciously strong and then you put a delicious cup of tea with your favorite flavor. 03:49.900 --> 03:50.900 Yes. 03:50.900 --> 03:56.660 A little bit delicious, apple cinnamon and then you add a little bit of that white sap. 03:56.660 --> 03:57.660 Sap. 03:57.660 --> 03:58.660 Sap. 03:58.660 --> 04:03.220 And then you do it just as long as you think, yes, yes, now that's possible and then you 04:03.220 --> 04:07.340 know right away how strong you want it and then it's delicious. 04:07.340 --> 04:11.740 So that's what she did and she called me on Mother's Day at night and I had already 04:11.740 --> 04:22.220 spoken to her, of course, and she said, I don't know if I'm a stone, but the pain is completely 04:22.220 --> 04:23.220 gone. 04:23.220 --> 04:25.700 I said, well, you're right, I'm not talking about it, mom. 04:25.700 --> 04:26.700 Yes, so. 04:26.700 --> 04:27.700 Well, that was fun. 04:27.700 --> 04:28.700 Well, that's fantastic. 04:28.700 --> 04:31.380 And we heard that in Jamaica. 04:31.380 --> 04:35.220 Yes, of the Jamaican, how do you say my wife? 04:35.220 --> 04:36.220 Moodetjes. 04:36.220 --> 04:37.220 Yes, Moodetjes. 04:37.220 --> 04:38.220 Carol. 04:38.220 --> 04:39.220 Carol. 04:39.220 --> 04:40.220 Carol. 04:40.220 --> 04:52.060 Yes, and the Jamaican mothers, oh, shit, the skype, I don't know, in any case, they told 04:52.060 --> 04:56.740 me that if the children, for example, keep crying when they're just born, and they have 04:56.740 --> 05:01.740 it, because that can be very painful for babies, that they come to the world anyway, and then 05:01.740 --> 05:02.740 they give it to me. 05:02.740 --> 05:03.740 I've seen it from inside. 05:03.740 --> 05:04.740 Yes. 05:04.740 --> 05:05.740 No kidding. 05:05.740 --> 05:10.260 And then they give the babies, yes, incredibly, a little bit in their bottle so that they can 05:10.260 --> 05:11.260 smell it. 05:11.260 --> 05:12.260 Yes, a little bit of VT. 05:12.260 --> 05:13.260 Because they like to sleep. 05:13.260 --> 05:14.260 I said, no way. 05:14.260 --> 05:15.260 Yes. 05:15.260 --> 05:16.260 That's why the guests are walking out all day. 05:16.260 --> 05:17.260 Yes. 05:17.260 --> 05:18.260 Yes. 05:18.260 --> 05:19.260 They are walking out right away. 05:19.260 --> 05:24.500 Yes, they are very relaxed, they look very healthy, they eat healthy, so yes, just like 05:24.500 --> 05:26.300 the Indians, they do something good. 05:26.300 --> 05:28.740 Hey, there is, by the way, good news. 05:28.740 --> 05:29.740 Well. 05:29.740 --> 05:31.740 I can buy your domain name. 05:31.740 --> 05:32.740 I've heard that. 05:32.740 --> 05:33.740 PatriciaPie.nl. 05:33.740 --> 05:39.740 So let's see, because it's on ebay, and you can offer it, so someone has registered it 05:39.740 --> 05:40.740 once. 05:40.740 --> 05:44.740 Yes, but for the, in any case, for the transaction, I don't offer it. 05:44.740 --> 05:45.740 Let's see. 05:45.740 --> 05:46.740 No, of course not. 05:46.740 --> 05:47.740 No, I know. 05:47.740 --> 05:49.740 But we can buy it, let's see what the price is. 05:49.740 --> 05:52.740 So you're telling me, but I didn't know that it was like that. 05:52.740 --> 05:54.740 Let's see if I can find it. 05:54.740 --> 05:55.740 PatriciaPie.nl. 05:55.740 --> 06:02.740 No, oh, I have to wait on ebay, wait a minute, that was it. 06:02.740 --> 06:07.740 Yes, my mother told me that it was on, on the show Niels, I believe. 06:07.740 --> 06:08.740 A good program, of course. 06:08.740 --> 06:11.740 Yes, great program, new presenters. 06:11.740 --> 06:13.740 And how does it do, by the way? 06:13.740 --> 06:14.740 Do we know that already? 06:14.740 --> 06:16.740 A bit dull, I believe. 06:16.740 --> 06:18.740 A bit, she's not completely gone yet. 06:18.740 --> 06:19.740 That Anouk. 06:19.740 --> 06:20.740 Anouk. 06:20.740 --> 06:25.740 And then she told, or she had to, of course, tell, because that's not Niels. 06:25.740 --> 06:31.740 That yes, the domain name, and that does not know what it means. 06:31.740 --> 06:33.740 That was the website address. 06:33.740 --> 06:39.740 Patricia sold her name, because, and here it comes, 06:39.740 --> 06:44.740 Adam will need it, because he has 2.5 million debt. 06:44.740 --> 06:46.740 Yes, so that's why I'm selling my name. 06:46.740 --> 06:47.740 Can I maybe help you with this? 06:47.740 --> 06:49.740 Yes, do you have 2.5 million for me? 06:49.740 --> 06:50.740 Just a moment. 06:50.740 --> 06:54.740 Well, we'll tell you that, because I heard people want to know that so much. 06:54.740 --> 06:57.740 Here, the starting point is 50 euros. 06:57.740 --> 06:59.740 You can now buy it for 1000 euros. 06:59.740 --> 07:01.740 I don't think it's worth it. 07:01.740 --> 07:03.740 No, I don't need it. 07:03.740 --> 07:05.740 I'm not in the business. 07:05.740 --> 07:07.740 And no one has offered, no offers. 07:07.740 --> 07:09.740 So, there you go. 07:09.740 --> 07:13.740 Well, save it for those 2.5 million, right? 07:15.740 --> 07:17.740 Oh man, hey, it's, it's again, 07:17.740 --> 07:19.740 what is it, one and a half weeks ago, 07:19.740 --> 07:22.740 that we did a law-abiding podcast? 07:22.740 --> 07:26.740 Yes, and we thought, well, we got nice reactions. 07:26.740 --> 07:28.740 Let's be honest, we got really nice reactions. 07:28.740 --> 07:30.740 And now, only because it's announced, 07:30.740 --> 07:33.740 all the people who say, it's also in English. 07:33.740 --> 07:35.740 And you play it again from her songs. 07:35.740 --> 07:36.740 Yes. 07:36.740 --> 07:37.740 They also want to hear your music. 07:37.740 --> 07:40.740 Yes, but in English, it just has to be other information. 07:40.740 --> 07:43.740 But you also have to do that once with nice music. 07:43.740 --> 07:44.740 It's also fun to do. 07:44.740 --> 07:45.740 But I find it difficult. 07:45.740 --> 07:46.740 I mean, my English isn't bad, 07:46.740 --> 07:48.740 but if I really have to tell something, 07:48.740 --> 07:50.740 then I think, shit. 07:50.740 --> 07:53.740 You're not Flabbergasted in any case. 07:53.740 --> 07:55.740 Yes, of course. 07:55.740 --> 07:56.740 Yes, of course. 07:56.740 --> 07:58.740 Yes, that's Peter. 07:58.740 --> 08:00.740 Peter the homo. 08:00.740 --> 08:02.740 Yes, Peter, my hood, he tells me. 08:02.740 --> 08:03.740 He's also my hood, but he can't, 08:03.740 --> 08:05.740 he doesn't manage it for me. 08:05.740 --> 08:06.740 He's only with you. 08:06.740 --> 08:07.740 I don't think so. 08:07.740 --> 08:09.740 Yes, he comes home and says, 08:09.740 --> 08:10.740 with very nice brown hair, 08:10.740 --> 08:11.740 better people, by the way, 08:11.740 --> 08:13.740 Patricia has a very nice brown hair. 08:13.740 --> 08:15.740 Yes, from there that I was just with Peter. 08:15.740 --> 08:16.740 Yes, but wait a minute, I can tell you. 08:16.740 --> 08:17.740 And then they come home, 08:17.740 --> 08:19.740 and then I have completely managed it. 08:19.740 --> 08:20.740 William flew over there, 08:20.740 --> 08:22.740 and then it's like, well, you see it, 08:22.740 --> 08:24.740 that's if the rat has forgotten about your hair. 08:24.740 --> 08:25.740 No. 08:25.740 --> 08:27.740 If you see it, you'll see it. 08:27.740 --> 08:28.740 They come to pick me up. 08:28.740 --> 08:29.740 Yes, I'm completely, 08:29.740 --> 08:31.740 I have dressed as beautifully as possible, 08:31.740 --> 08:33.740 because I hadn't seen you in a week. 08:33.740 --> 08:36.740 You surprise with beautiful dark hair. 08:36.740 --> 08:37.740 Yes. 08:37.740 --> 08:38.740 Because I know that's beautiful for two years. 08:38.740 --> 08:39.740 Yes. 08:39.740 --> 08:40.740 That's 20 years ago, 08:40.740 --> 08:41.740 that I had dark brown hair. 08:41.740 --> 08:42.740 Yes, then I was 12. 08:42.740 --> 08:43.740 And then you stand there, 08:43.740 --> 08:44.740 and you have a beard, 08:44.740 --> 08:45.740 and your hair didn't come. 08:45.740 --> 08:46.740 No. 08:46.740 --> 08:47.740 And you just have a crazy blouse, 08:47.740 --> 08:48.740 and then I think, hello. 08:48.740 --> 08:49.740 But I went flying afterwards. 08:49.740 --> 08:51.740 Are you now in love or not? 08:51.740 --> 08:52.740 Yes, do you think so? 08:52.740 --> 08:53.740 Do you think so? 08:53.740 --> 08:54.740 Ah, do you think so? 08:54.740 --> 08:55.740 You know that, right? 08:55.740 --> 08:56.740 Yes. 08:56.740 --> 08:57.740 Did I do it well later? 08:57.740 --> 08:58.740 Yes, you did it well. 08:58.740 --> 08:59.740 Certainly. 08:59.740 --> 09:01.740 And did you do it better in the evening? 09:01.740 --> 09:03.740 You can do better in the evening. 09:03.740 --> 09:04.740 Okay. 09:04.740 --> 09:06.740 So you heard something from Pieter. 09:06.740 --> 09:07.740 No, Pieter. 09:07.740 --> 09:10.740 You know that he is not a fan of Connie at all. 09:10.740 --> 09:11.740 Connie Breukhove. 09:11.740 --> 09:12.740 That is. 09:12.740 --> 09:14.740 And so he always says something. 09:14.740 --> 09:16.740 Oh, because do you know 09:16.740 --> 09:19.740 that she was so angry that we spoke English? 09:19.740 --> 09:21.740 I can still remember that. 09:21.740 --> 09:22.740 Yes. 09:22.740 --> 09:23.740 That little child of mine. 09:23.740 --> 09:24.740 Yes, you and Christina. 09:24.740 --> 09:25.740 Yes. 09:25.740 --> 09:28.740 She said, as always, she speaks English to you, 09:28.740 --> 09:29.740 and you speak Dutch back. 09:29.740 --> 09:30.740 Yes. 09:30.740 --> 09:32.740 We speak everything together. 09:32.740 --> 09:35.740 And because Christina is always at English school, 09:35.740 --> 09:37.740 so she speaks English all day. 09:37.740 --> 09:39.740 And that is now actually again, 09:39.740 --> 09:40.740 but we did that in, 09:40.740 --> 09:41.740 they heard that then, 09:41.740 --> 09:43.740 and they heard that all over the Netherlands, 09:43.740 --> 09:46.740 that Christina said things in English. 09:46.740 --> 09:47.740 Yes. 09:47.740 --> 09:51.740 And then she was very angry about it. 09:51.740 --> 09:52.740 Angry? 09:52.740 --> 09:53.740 Yes, very angry. 09:53.740 --> 09:55.740 So she speaks English to you, 09:55.740 --> 09:56.740 and the story went on and on. 09:56.740 --> 09:57.740 Oh, yes, yes. 09:57.740 --> 09:58.740 Well, the Dutch were themselves, 09:58.740 --> 09:59.740 no, you're right, 09:59.740 --> 10:01.740 because that was really alive then. 10:01.740 --> 10:03.740 Then you also get Peter and Jo Rens, 10:03.740 --> 10:04.740 who make such a strip drawing. 10:04.740 --> 10:05.740 Yes. 10:05.740 --> 10:07.740 And there was also a joke about, 10:07.740 --> 10:09.740 I watched too much of Adam's Family. 10:09.740 --> 10:10.740 Yes, exactly. 10:10.740 --> 10:11.740 Because everyone was talking about it. 10:11.740 --> 10:12.740 Yes. 10:12.740 --> 10:13.740 That is so much English. 10:13.740 --> 10:14.740 But the fun is, 10:14.740 --> 10:16.740 because I have now seen that again, 10:16.740 --> 10:18.740 that you know that I was in the Netherlands, 10:18.740 --> 10:20.740 everyone does it now, 10:20.740 --> 10:23.740 everyone uses English words. 10:23.740 --> 10:24.740 Unreliable, 10:24.740 --> 10:26.740 because you are sitting in such a small country. 10:26.740 --> 10:27.740 So many foreign countries, 10:27.740 --> 10:28.740 you have to do so. 10:28.740 --> 10:29.740 Unreliable. 10:29.740 --> 10:30.740 Because no one speaks Dutch. 10:30.740 --> 10:31.740 The fun was then, 10:31.740 --> 10:32.740 and Peter told that, 10:32.740 --> 10:34.740 that in contrast you could also mean it, 10:34.740 --> 10:35.740 try it, 10:35.740 --> 10:37.740 but it doesn't seem so good to be able to speak English. 10:37.740 --> 10:38.740 So that is, 10:38.740 --> 10:39.740 he had a word, 10:39.740 --> 10:40.740 Flappergeisted. 10:40.740 --> 10:41.740 I am, 10:41.740 --> 10:43.740 I am Flappergeisted. 10:43.740 --> 10:44.740 Okay, for the right order, 10:44.740 --> 10:45.740 this is Flappergeisted. 10:45.740 --> 10:46.740 Yes. 10:46.740 --> 10:47.740 Not Flappergeisted. 10:47.740 --> 10:48.740 Buckeisted. 10:48.740 --> 10:49.740 Flappergeisted. 10:49.740 --> 10:50.740 Yes. 10:50.740 --> 10:51.740 Oh, that's good. 10:51.740 --> 10:52.740 Let's have a look, 10:52.740 --> 10:53.740 I have to tell you something. 10:53.740 --> 10:54.740 Oh yes, 10:54.740 --> 10:56.740 the new website, 10:56.740 --> 10:57.740 Glossup.nl. 10:57.740 --> 10:59.740 Yes, I heard it. 10:59.740 --> 11:00.740 My God, 11:00.740 --> 11:01.740 this is, 11:01.740 --> 11:03.740 what I find so fun here. 11:03.740 --> 11:04.740 Wow, 11:04.740 --> 11:05.740 you watched it, right? 11:05.740 --> 11:06.740 Yes, yes, yes. 11:06.740 --> 11:07.740 Did you snuff it? 11:07.740 --> 11:08.740 Yes, they have three movies online. 11:08.740 --> 11:09.740 One of Patty Brart, 11:09.740 --> 11:10.740 one of, 11:10.740 --> 11:12.740 the photo book of Govert, 11:12.740 --> 11:13.740 of her party, 11:13.740 --> 11:14.740 Govert de Roos, 11:14.740 --> 11:15.740 of the screening, 11:15.740 --> 11:16.740 where we are not in, 11:16.740 --> 11:17.740 but we are, 11:17.740 --> 11:18.740 We have asked me a hundred times, 11:18.740 --> 11:19.740 but I say, 11:19.740 --> 11:20.740 I can't cry now, 11:20.740 --> 11:21.740 sorry. 11:21.740 --> 11:22.740 Yes, I have to cry, 11:22.740 --> 11:23.740 I have to cry, 11:23.740 --> 11:24.740 I can't cry on command. 11:24.740 --> 11:25.740 Yes, he asked me too, 11:25.740 --> 11:26.740 it's not really that much, 11:26.740 --> 11:27.740 I know. 11:27.740 --> 11:28.740 No, 11:28.740 --> 11:29.740 I usually laugh a lot. 11:29.740 --> 11:30.740 Yes, 11:30.740 --> 11:31.740 yes, always. 11:31.740 --> 11:32.740 Yes, 11:32.740 --> 11:33.740 it's always LOL, 11:33.740 --> 11:34.740 and I know it for so long. 11:34.740 --> 11:35.740 It doesn't matter, 11:35.740 --> 11:36.740 it doesn't matter. 11:36.740 --> 11:37.740 But now, 11:37.740 --> 11:38.740 and then there was something else, 11:38.740 --> 11:39.740 oh yes, 11:39.740 --> 11:40.740 Robert Schumacher, 11:40.740 --> 11:41.740 with his new girlfriend, 11:41.740 --> 11:42.740 yes, 11:42.740 --> 11:43.740 it's from the Swan, 11:43.740 --> 11:44.740 I believe, 11:44.740 --> 11:45.740 she said, 11:45.740 --> 11:46.740 I know it, 11:46.740 --> 11:47.740 it was a PR lady 11:47.740 --> 11:49.740 of Endemol, 11:49.740 --> 11:50.740 and it wasn't the same, 11:50.740 --> 11:51.740 we saw each other. 11:51.740 --> 11:52.740 Oh, 11:52.740 --> 11:53.740 you didn't laugh, 11:53.740 --> 11:54.740 with each other? 11:54.740 --> 11:55.740 No, 11:55.740 --> 11:57.740 I don't need a PR lady. 11:57.740 --> 11:58.740 She says, 11:58.740 --> 11:59.740 look at my weblog, 11:59.740 --> 12:00.740 and then she sends me a lady, 12:00.740 --> 12:01.740 and then I get the rules. 12:01.740 --> 12:02.740 Go away. 12:02.740 --> 12:03.740 No, 12:03.740 --> 12:04.740 yes, 12:04.740 --> 12:05.740 it was, 12:05.740 --> 12:06.740 it was a very difficult period for me, 12:06.740 --> 12:07.740 dear, 12:07.740 --> 12:08.740 it was, 12:08.740 --> 12:09.740 the period, 12:09.740 --> 12:11.740 so she had to do PR for it, 12:11.740 --> 12:12.740 I was cut. 12:12.740 --> 12:13.740 Oh, 12:13.740 --> 12:14.740 okay, 12:14.740 --> 12:15.740 it could have been hard, 12:15.740 --> 12:16.740 but good, 12:16.740 --> 12:17.740 so this is a website, 12:17.740 --> 12:18.740 and, 12:18.740 --> 12:19.740 yes? 12:19.740 --> 12:21.740 there are real preparations, 12:21.740 --> 12:23.740 and those films are just, 12:23.740 --> 12:24.740 really long, 12:24.740 --> 12:25.740 but unassembled, 12:25.740 --> 12:26.740 or yes, 12:26.740 --> 12:27.740 not unassembled, 12:27.740 --> 12:28.740 but they really send all those things out, 12:28.740 --> 12:30.740 that you never see on television. 12:30.740 --> 12:31.740 So actually, 12:31.740 --> 12:32.740 the truth? 12:32.740 --> 12:33.740 Yes, 12:33.740 --> 12:34.740 only then, 12:34.740 --> 12:35.740 because on the internet, 12:35.740 --> 12:36.740 you can just go through, 12:36.740 --> 12:37.740 and if you want, 12:37.740 --> 12:38.740 10 or 6 or 10 minutes, 12:38.740 --> 12:39.740 you can talk about it. 12:39.740 --> 12:40.740 And then nobody can say, 12:40.740 --> 12:41.740 yes, 12:41.740 --> 12:42.740 but I wasn't there. 12:42.740 --> 12:43.740 I wasn't there. 12:43.740 --> 12:44.740 No, no, no, no, 12:44.740 --> 12:45.740 you see that Schumacher, 12:45.740 --> 12:46.740 also, 12:46.740 --> 12:47.740 sitting outside with that Claudia, 12:47.740 --> 12:48.740 in Belgium, 12:48.740 --> 12:49.740 we know exactly that house, 12:49.740 --> 12:50.740 you've been there, 12:50.740 --> 12:51.740 and Max Plas, 12:51.740 --> 12:52.740 Max Plas, 12:52.740 --> 12:53.740 what, 12:53.740 --> 12:54.740 Max Plas? 12:54.740 --> 12:55.740 Yes, 12:55.740 --> 12:56.740 it's on where we live. 12:56.740 --> 12:57.740 Nice house, 12:57.740 --> 12:58.740 nice house. 12:58.740 --> 12:59.740 It was really the end of the road, 12:59.740 --> 13:00.740 where we live. 13:00.740 --> 13:01.740 And you see her, 13:01.740 --> 13:02.740 with Mo's, 13:02.740 --> 13:03.740 with a child, 13:03.740 --> 13:04.740 you see Claudia, 13:04.740 --> 13:05.740 bringing the angels, 13:05.740 --> 13:06.740 yes, that's fun, 13:06.740 --> 13:07.740 and then you have to watch 13:07.740 --> 13:08.740 how she brings the angels, 13:08.740 --> 13:09.740 completely uninterested. 13:09.740 --> 13:10.740 Look at you, 13:10.740 --> 13:11.740 that bread, 13:11.740 --> 13:12.740 so in the water. 13:12.740 --> 13:13.740 Would you have to go with that 13:13.740 --> 13:14.740 fucking child, 13:14.740 --> 13:15.740 bringing the angels? 13:15.740 --> 13:16.740 And the woman, 13:16.740 --> 13:17.740 it's very fun, 13:17.740 --> 13:18.740 because the woman, 13:18.740 --> 13:19.740 the woman, 13:19.740 --> 13:20.740 she has also been, 13:20.740 --> 13:21.740 beyond sin, 13:21.740 --> 13:22.740 a radio show, 13:22.740 --> 13:23.740 with Veronica, 13:23.740 --> 13:24.740 a sweet girl, 13:24.740 --> 13:25.740 and she's so nice, 13:25.740 --> 13:26.740 so nice, 13:26.740 --> 13:27.740 and that interviewer, 13:27.740 --> 13:28.740 that really asks 13:28.740 --> 13:29.740 crazy questions, 13:29.740 --> 13:30.740 like, 13:30.740 --> 13:31.740 do you wanna one night stand? 13:31.740 --> 13:32.740 Who interviewed her, 13:32.740 --> 13:33.740 then? 13:33.740 --> 13:34.740 Rob Furentz. 13:34.740 --> 13:35.740 Oh, 13:35.740 --> 13:36.740 from the... 13:36.740 --> 13:37.740 Party? 13:37.740 --> 13:38.740 From the party. 13:38.740 --> 13:39.740 Do you work with the party now? 13:39.740 --> 13:40.740 Or do you still work with the party? 13:40.740 --> 13:41.740 I don't know, 13:41.740 --> 13:42.740 maybe not anymore. 13:42.740 --> 13:43.740 But then you have to pay 13:43.740 --> 13:44.740 for those films. 13:44.740 --> 13:45.740 Well, 13:45.740 --> 13:46.740 in any case, 13:46.740 --> 13:48.740 what I understand is that, 13:48.740 --> 13:49.740 and I think this is the nice thing about it, 13:49.740 --> 13:50.740 that those films 13:50.740 --> 13:51.740 interest me, 13:51.740 --> 13:52.740 as for the door, 13:52.740 --> 13:53.740 I'm really going to 13:53.740 --> 13:54.740 stick with a piece of wood, 13:54.740 --> 13:55.740 but, 13:55.740 --> 13:56.740 what I like so much, 13:56.740 --> 13:57.740 is that, 13:57.740 --> 13:58.740 for them, 13:58.740 --> 13:59.740 it's a rap and a roar, 13:59.740 --> 14:00.740 I heard that first. 14:00.740 --> 14:02.740 Oh, they don't like that, of course. 14:02.740 --> 14:03.740 No, 14:03.740 --> 14:04.740 because then you suddenly play 14:04.740 --> 14:05.740 in the backyard. 14:05.740 --> 14:06.740 So, 14:06.740 --> 14:07.740 it's actually... 14:07.740 --> 14:08.740 I do a little bit of what we had 14:08.740 --> 14:09.740 with the Hermes family, 14:09.740 --> 14:10.740 you know, 14:10.740 --> 14:11.740 we were going to do that ourselves, 14:11.740 --> 14:12.740 and that means... 14:12.740 --> 14:13.740 Yes, 14:13.740 --> 14:14.740 we have to tell it like this, 14:14.740 --> 14:15.740 but it's fun, 14:15.740 --> 14:16.740 it's fun. 14:16.740 --> 14:17.740 So, 14:17.740 --> 14:18.740 they make it themselves, 14:18.740 --> 14:19.740 and they just do it... 14:19.740 --> 14:20.740 Yes, 14:20.740 --> 14:21.740 they don't like that. 14:21.740 --> 14:22.740 No, 14:22.740 --> 14:23.740 because that's only reserved 14:23.740 --> 14:24.740 for boulevards and showtime, 14:24.740 --> 14:25.740 or something like that. 14:25.740 --> 14:26.740 They can do that. 14:26.740 --> 14:27.740 They can do that. 14:27.740 --> 14:28.740 And what does Albert think of it? 14:28.740 --> 14:29.740 He can do that too. 14:29.740 --> 14:30.740 No, 14:30.740 --> 14:31.740 he's mean. 14:31.740 --> 14:32.740 Yes, 14:32.740 --> 14:33.740 because cats, 14:33.740 --> 14:34.740 I didn't see that, 14:34.740 --> 14:35.740 but apparently Peter Erdogan 14:35.740 --> 14:37.740 even had that over him. 14:37.740 --> 14:38.740 He doesn't do anything else. 14:38.740 --> 14:40.740 He always walks with the camera. 14:40.740 --> 14:42.740 And then he jumps over it himself. 14:42.740 --> 14:43.740 So, 14:43.740 --> 14:44.740 what I like, 14:44.740 --> 14:45.740 is that, 14:45.740 --> 14:46.740 yes, 14:46.740 --> 14:47.740 is that finally, 14:47.740 --> 14:48.740 the Bladum, 14:48.740 --> 14:49.740 also the gossip programs, 14:49.740 --> 14:50.740 they are now getting 14:50.740 --> 14:51.740 a run for the money. 14:51.740 --> 14:52.740 Oh, sorry, 14:52.740 --> 14:53.740 I just wanted to say 14:53.740 --> 14:54.740 a run for the money. 14:54.740 --> 14:55.740 Yes, 14:55.740 --> 14:56.740 it's very American. 14:56.740 --> 14:57.740 Yes, 14:57.740 --> 14:58.740 I have seen a few movies 14:58.740 --> 14:59.740 from America, 14:59.740 --> 15:01.740 in which the stars 15:01.740 --> 15:02.740 just come out of the club, 15:02.740 --> 15:03.740 you know that. 15:03.740 --> 15:04.740 Yes, 15:04.740 --> 15:05.740 but then, 15:05.740 --> 15:06.740 but then let it go. 15:06.740 --> 15:07.740 And that is, 15:07.740 --> 15:08.740 it is very calm, 15:08.740 --> 15:09.740 and you can really establish a bit, 15:09.740 --> 15:10.740 and then you can see 15:10.740 --> 15:11.740 what's going on in the background. 15:11.740 --> 15:12.740 It's not 30 seconds. 15:12.740 --> 15:13.740 It's always connected. 15:13.740 --> 15:14.740 No, 15:14.740 --> 15:15.740 it's not connected. 15:15.740 --> 15:16.740 No. 15:16.740 --> 15:17.740 It's all the big pieces now. 15:17.740 --> 15:18.740 Yes, 15:18.740 --> 15:19.740 because we know that 15:19.740 --> 15:20.740 as long as 15:20.740 --> 15:21.740 Jean-Lucie 15:21.740 --> 15:22.740 came to our house 15:22.740 --> 15:23.740 and then 15:23.740 --> 15:24.740 you did a nice interview 15:24.740 --> 15:25.740 and then you thought, 15:25.740 --> 15:26.740 well, 15:26.740 --> 15:27.740 it has a head and a star. 15:27.740 --> 15:28.740 Now people understand it. 15:28.740 --> 15:29.740 Yes. 15:29.740 --> 15:30.740 And then you saw it 15:30.740 --> 15:31.740 on TV, 15:31.740 --> 15:32.740 but I didn't say that. 15:32.740 --> 15:33.740 No. 15:33.740 --> 15:34.740 No, 15:34.740 --> 15:35.740 then they take one rule out of it, 15:35.740 --> 15:36.740 something, 15:36.740 --> 15:37.740 that's just how it works. 15:37.740 --> 15:38.740 A quote. 15:38.740 --> 15:39.740 A quote, 15:39.740 --> 15:40.740 and then they build the story around it. 15:40.740 --> 15:41.740 And then they call it something weird. 15:41.740 --> 15:42.740 Well, most of the time. 15:42.740 --> 15:43.740 And then you get your quote. 15:43.740 --> 15:44.740 Yes, 15:44.740 --> 15:45.740 yes. 15:45.740 --> 15:46.740 And then you see it out, 15:46.740 --> 15:47.740 and then you think, 15:47.740 --> 15:48.740 well, it looks like a joke. 15:48.740 --> 15:49.740 Yes. 15:49.740 --> 15:50.740 Yes. 15:50.740 --> 15:51.740 Right? 15:51.740 --> 15:52.740 Then you get an idiot about it. 15:52.740 --> 15:53.740 Yes, 15:53.740 --> 15:54.740 you know that in that program. 15:54.740 --> 15:55.740 Yes, 15:55.740 --> 15:56.740 so now, 15:56.740 --> 15:57.740 what you say, 15:57.740 --> 15:58.740 you can see it for a long time. 15:58.740 --> 15:59.740 You can see the whole movie. 15:59.740 --> 16:00.740 Yes, 16:00.740 --> 16:01.740 yes, 16:01.740 --> 16:02.740 it's really fun. 16:02.740 --> 16:03.740 People watch it. 16:03.740 --> 16:04.740 I'm curious. 16:04.740 --> 16:05.740 Yes. 16:05.740 --> 16:06.740 Good. 16:06.740 --> 16:08.740 Hello baby, 16:08.740 --> 16:09.740 I missed you. 16:09.740 --> 16:10.740 Yes, 16:10.740 --> 16:11.740 I missed you too. 16:11.740 --> 16:12.740 I missed you in the podcast. 16:12.740 --> 16:13.740 Yes, 16:13.740 --> 16:14.740 but everyone was waiting for the weekend. 16:14.740 --> 16:15.740 Where is he? 16:15.740 --> 16:17.740 Is he still coming to the podcast? 16:17.740 --> 16:18.740 Yes, 16:18.740 --> 16:20.740 I was a little bit to the Netherlands. 16:20.740 --> 16:21.740 At first, 16:21.740 --> 16:22.740 I liked it 16:22.740 --> 16:24.740 because my mother was old. 16:24.740 --> 16:25.740 Yes. 16:25.740 --> 16:27.740 So I was surprised 16:27.740 --> 16:28.740 to see 16:28.740 --> 16:30.740 what they are still active and lively 16:30.740 --> 16:32.740 and what they are fun. 16:32.740 --> 16:34.740 Are they both 79 now? 16:34.740 --> 16:35.740 Yes, 16:35.740 --> 16:37.740 my mother is now 79. 16:37.740 --> 16:38.740 So in November, 16:38.740 --> 16:39.740 my father is 80. 16:39.740 --> 16:40.740 Well, 16:40.740 --> 16:41.740 I'm going to count it all. 16:41.740 --> 16:42.740 Because that doesn't sound like it. 16:42.740 --> 16:43.740 No, 16:43.740 --> 16:45.740 but with a 4 double bypass. 16:45.740 --> 16:46.740 Yes, 16:46.740 --> 16:47.740 that man. 16:47.740 --> 16:48.740 80 years old. 16:48.740 --> 16:49.740 That's still modern. 16:49.740 --> 16:50.740 The Netherlands. 16:50.740 --> 16:51.740 That's great. 16:51.740 --> 16:52.740 I have inherited the Netherlands. 16:52.740 --> 16:53.740 Yes, 16:53.740 --> 16:54.740 but I think 16:54.740 --> 16:55.740 you see your prospects. 16:55.740 --> 16:56.740 They are good. 16:56.740 --> 16:57.740 Because if you are 80, 16:57.740 --> 16:59.740 then you have a promise. 16:59.740 --> 17:00.740 Yes, yes, yes. 17:00.740 --> 17:02.740 Then you have to go to hell. 17:02.740 --> 17:03.740 Yes, 17:03.740 --> 17:05.740 I still have to write down 17:05.740 --> 17:07.740 that you are giving me a duet. 17:07.740 --> 17:08.740 Well, 17:08.740 --> 17:09.740 I say, 17:09.740 --> 17:10.740 if I can't function anymore, 17:10.740 --> 17:11.740 I can't talk anymore. 17:11.740 --> 17:13.740 I don't know where I am. 17:13.740 --> 17:15.740 And you think that I'm not going to wake up anymore? 17:15.740 --> 17:16.740 Well, 17:16.740 --> 17:17.740 if you like, 17:17.740 --> 17:18.740 you have to write it down. 17:18.740 --> 17:19.740 And can we then share 17:19.740 --> 17:20.740 for the science, 17:20.740 --> 17:21.740 or do you just... 17:21.740 --> 17:22.740 No, 17:22.740 --> 17:24.740 because I still have to speak. 17:24.740 --> 17:25.740 But then you can also 17:25.740 --> 17:27.740 with one arm. 17:27.740 --> 17:28.740 No, no, no. 17:28.740 --> 17:29.740 Yes, look, 17:29.740 --> 17:30.740 do you see it? 17:30.740 --> 17:31.740 No. 17:31.740 --> 17:32.740 That's scary. 17:32.740 --> 17:33.740 There are a lot of people 17:33.740 --> 17:34.740 who need to share their body parts. 17:34.740 --> 17:35.740 Yes, I know, 17:35.740 --> 17:36.740 I know. 17:36.740 --> 17:37.740 Do you do it? 17:37.740 --> 17:38.740 Well, 17:38.740 --> 17:40.740 I don't know if it's worth it yet. 17:40.740 --> 17:42.740 At the time that I go, 17:42.740 --> 17:44.740 who the fuck wants that shit? 17:44.740 --> 17:45.740 Oh. 17:45.740 --> 17:46.740 You don't have arms, 17:46.740 --> 17:47.740 you have tentacles. 17:47.740 --> 17:48.740 Who wants that? 17:48.740 --> 17:49.740 It's a very strange thing 17:49.740 --> 17:50.740 hanging on your life. 17:50.740 --> 17:51.740 You're always standing 17:51.740 --> 17:52.740 against names, 17:52.740 --> 17:53.740 against those arms. 17:54.740 --> 17:55.740 Well, 17:55.740 --> 17:56.740 for the first time 17:56.740 --> 17:58.740 I really think about it myself. 17:58.740 --> 18:00.740 I don't think it interests me. 18:00.740 --> 18:01.740 Let's just cut it out. 18:01.740 --> 18:02.740 My aunt, 18:02.740 --> 18:03.740 she has... 18:03.740 --> 18:04.740 You don't have anything to do with it. 18:04.740 --> 18:06.740 She has cancer and stuff. 18:06.740 --> 18:07.740 In America, 18:07.740 --> 18:09.740 she gave birth to a baby. 18:09.740 --> 18:10.740 It's beautiful. 18:10.740 --> 18:12.740 It's always a very beautiful house. 18:12.740 --> 18:14.740 A very beautiful white living room. 18:14.740 --> 18:15.740 I know what I can donate. 18:15.740 --> 18:16.740 Oh. 18:17.740 --> 18:18.740 Oh, what are you? 18:19.740 --> 18:21.740 Yes, yes, yes. 18:21.740 --> 18:22.740 Hey, but... 18:22.740 --> 18:24.740 Oh, talk about it in the microphone. 18:24.740 --> 18:25.740 Last time, 18:25.740 --> 18:27.740 we kept it on our own. 18:27.740 --> 18:29.740 And I believe 18:29.740 --> 18:32.740 that we kept it on our own. 18:32.740 --> 18:33.740 Oh, yes. 18:33.740 --> 18:35.740 That we were in Amsterdam again. 18:35.740 --> 18:36.740 That house. 18:36.740 --> 18:37.740 Did you get this from the production, 18:37.740 --> 18:38.740 this letter? 18:38.740 --> 18:39.740 No, no. 18:39.740 --> 18:40.740 I've got it myself. 18:40.740 --> 18:41.740 I'm now a production mud. 18:41.740 --> 18:42.740 Aha. 18:42.740 --> 18:43.740 Hello, 18:43.740 --> 18:44.740 production mud. 18:44.740 --> 18:45.740 Because he knows, 18:45.740 --> 18:46.740 we're cutting so much. 18:46.740 --> 18:47.740 From the front to the back, 18:47.740 --> 18:49.740 not where we've been. 18:49.740 --> 18:50.740 So, 18:50.740 --> 18:52.740 what the people, 18:52.740 --> 18:53.740 what I've heard. 18:53.740 --> 18:54.740 The people. 18:54.740 --> 18:55.740 The maniacs. 18:55.740 --> 18:57.740 Because it's constantly about 18:57.740 --> 18:59.740 that you have 18:59.740 --> 19:01.740 2.5 million debt 19:01.740 --> 19:02.740 to a debt-eiser. 19:02.740 --> 19:03.740 Eiser. 19:03.740 --> 19:04.740 Eiser. 19:04.740 --> 19:05.740 Eiser. 19:05.740 --> 19:06.740 debt-eiser. 19:06.740 --> 19:07.740 And 19:07.740 --> 19:08.740 I've asked a few times, 19:08.740 --> 19:10.740 how is that? 19:10.740 --> 19:11.740 With that, 19:11.740 --> 19:12.740 with that... 19:12.740 --> 19:13.740 You can do that very quickly. 19:13.740 --> 19:15.740 You don't have to tell the whole thing. 19:15.740 --> 19:16.740 It can't actually... 19:16.740 --> 19:17.740 Yes, I will do it as quickly as possible. 19:17.740 --> 19:18.740 But there are a few important things. 19:18.740 --> 19:19.740 Important things. 19:19.740 --> 19:20.740 Yes, but you can do it very simply. 19:20.740 --> 19:22.740 You don't have to tell such a long story. 19:22.740 --> 19:24.740 What they want to know is 19:24.740 --> 19:26.740 how it was with that helicopter. 19:26.740 --> 19:27.740 And who was that Simon? 19:27.740 --> 19:29.740 And who is that debt-eiser? 19:29.740 --> 19:30.740 Okay. 19:30.740 --> 19:31.740 But that's basically a long story. 19:31.740 --> 19:33.740 I'm going to tell you something now. 19:33.740 --> 19:34.740 And if you find it interesting, 19:34.740 --> 19:36.740 then I'll talk about it. 19:36.740 --> 19:37.740 Okay. 19:37.740 --> 19:38.740 Okay. 19:38.740 --> 19:39.740 It all started 19:39.740 --> 19:41.740 when we sold our companies in 2000. 19:41.740 --> 19:43.740 And we were in Amsterdam 19:43.740 --> 19:45.740 and Simon and I 19:45.740 --> 19:46.740 said, hey, 19:46.740 --> 19:47.740 what are we going to do? 19:47.740 --> 19:49.740 We're going to do some fun things. 19:49.740 --> 19:51.740 And I just read that Warren Buffett, 19:51.740 --> 19:55.740 that's a very quick investor in America, 19:55.740 --> 19:56.740 he's very well known, 19:56.740 --> 20:00.740 had just bought NetJets. 20:00.740 --> 20:04.740 And NetJets is a fractional ownership, 20:04.740 --> 20:07.740 then you buy a piece of a plane 20:07.740 --> 20:10.740 and it costs a lot less. 20:10.740 --> 20:12.740 A plane to buy yourself, 20:12.740 --> 20:14.740 a nice or a very nice helicopter, 20:14.740 --> 20:16.740 that doesn't make any sense 20:16.740 --> 20:17.740 because that thing is more on the ground 20:17.740 --> 20:18.740 than it flies. 20:18.740 --> 20:20.740 So if you buy a pair of people in a club 20:20.740 --> 20:23.740 and you pay together the maintenance 20:23.740 --> 20:25.740 and the personnel, 20:25.740 --> 20:27.740 then you just have to pay 20:27.740 --> 20:28.740 for your fuel and so on. 20:28.740 --> 20:29.740 Well, that's what you thought. 20:29.740 --> 20:30.740 Nice. 20:30.740 --> 20:32.740 Because we already had a helicopter 20:32.740 --> 20:35.740 and then we had the Agusta. 20:35.740 --> 20:36.740 And they said, 20:36.740 --> 20:37.740 this is a crazy experience. 20:37.740 --> 20:38.740 This is fantastic. 20:38.740 --> 20:41.740 And then the big internet bell 20:41.740 --> 20:42.740 wasn't working. 20:42.740 --> 20:43.740 So everyone was making money 20:43.740 --> 20:45.740 and there was a client 20:45.740 --> 20:46.740 who was in the queue. 20:46.740 --> 20:48.740 And then you have to add 20:48.740 --> 20:49.740 that Simon, 20:49.740 --> 20:51.740 I knew him for a long time. 20:51.740 --> 20:52.740 I knew him for a long time. 20:52.740 --> 20:53.740 I knew him for 5 or 6 years. 20:53.740 --> 20:56.740 He was also in America with us. 20:56.740 --> 20:57.740 Where are those coins? 20:57.740 --> 20:58.740 He sold them to us. 20:58.740 --> 21:00.740 He always came with nice gifts 21:00.740 --> 21:01.740 and we thought, 21:01.740 --> 21:03.740 what a nice English ball. 21:03.740 --> 21:05.740 But he also put on EuroNet internet. 21:05.740 --> 21:06.740 Certainly. 21:06.740 --> 21:08.740 And he earned his own money. 21:08.740 --> 21:10.740 Yes, I always said, 21:10.740 --> 21:12.740 if someone has the example of success, 21:12.740 --> 21:14.740 then he's okay, right? 21:14.740 --> 21:15.740 Yes, yes. 21:15.740 --> 21:17.740 We just saw the same thing. 21:17.740 --> 21:20.740 We healed from the same things. 21:20.740 --> 21:23.740 He was always seen in the Misha in Africa. 21:23.740 --> 21:25.740 So the house, 21:25.740 --> 21:26.740 an MDMA, 21:26.740 --> 21:27.740 an ecstasy. 21:27.740 --> 21:28.740 He was interested in me, 21:28.740 --> 21:30.740 I have to know that myself. 21:30.740 --> 21:32.740 But, 21:32.740 --> 21:33.740 just before the rest... 21:33.740 --> 21:34.740 We would keep it short. 21:34.740 --> 21:35.740 Yes, but then people knew 21:35.740 --> 21:36.740 Simon, 21:36.740 --> 21:37.740 where you were. 21:37.740 --> 21:38.740 Simon Cavendish. 21:38.740 --> 21:39.740 What we always do. 21:39.740 --> 21:40.740 When I was with him, 21:40.740 --> 21:41.740 you know how I always mess with everyone. 21:41.740 --> 21:43.740 I want to know everything. 21:43.740 --> 21:45.740 I never came to know anything about that man. 21:45.740 --> 21:46.740 I said, 21:46.740 --> 21:47.740 Well, we also said that to him. 21:47.740 --> 21:51.740 We came to realize that you are royalty. 21:51.740 --> 21:53.740 Yes, or you are one of the farmers, we said. 21:53.740 --> 21:55.740 Or you are, it was a joke. 21:55.740 --> 21:57.740 Or you are from the royal family. 21:57.740 --> 21:58.740 Because, 21:58.740 --> 21:59.740 why don't you tell who you are 21:59.740 --> 22:00.740 and who your family is? 22:00.740 --> 22:01.740 Never. 22:01.740 --> 22:02.740 Well, he did tell that. 22:02.740 --> 22:03.740 Because he told that. 22:03.740 --> 22:04.740 Fag. 22:04.740 --> 22:06.740 Yes, his father was, 22:06.740 --> 22:07.740 he was a teacher. 22:07.740 --> 22:08.740 Well, he did tell stories. 22:08.740 --> 22:09.740 But, 22:09.740 --> 22:10.740 he was fag. 22:10.740 --> 22:11.740 Yes, fag. 22:11.740 --> 22:12.740 But, 22:12.740 --> 22:13.740 that is also very easy to look at. 22:13.740 --> 22:14.740 Why do I have to say? 22:14.740 --> 22:15.740 Because you think, 22:15.740 --> 22:16.740 oh yes, that was a bit weird. 22:16.740 --> 22:17.740 Yes, but now, 22:17.740 --> 22:18.740 further. 22:18.740 --> 22:19.740 So, 22:19.740 --> 22:20.740 the idea was very good. 22:20.740 --> 22:21.740 But, 22:21.740 --> 22:23.740 to put something like that in the Netherlands, 22:23.740 --> 22:25.740 it turned out to be a bit more difficult. 22:25.740 --> 22:26.740 Because in the Netherlands, 22:26.740 --> 22:28.740 you have rules everywhere. 22:28.740 --> 22:29.740 By the way, 22:29.740 --> 22:30.740 for example, 22:30.740 --> 22:31.740 the IVW, 22:31.740 --> 22:32.740 the Inspection, 22:32.740 --> 22:33.740 traffic and water, 22:33.740 --> 22:34.740 which the Turkish aircraft, 22:34.740 --> 22:36.740 or aircraft carrier has banned. 22:36.740 --> 22:37.740 Yes, now. 22:37.740 --> 22:38.740 The reason why, 22:38.740 --> 22:39.740 is not because of bad maintenance. 22:39.740 --> 22:40.740 I mean, 22:40.740 --> 22:41.740 ah, 22:41.740 --> 22:42.740 once the engine is off, 22:42.740 --> 22:43.740 it happens with the KLM, 22:43.740 --> 22:44.740 30 times a month, 22:44.740 --> 22:45.740 it just happens. 22:45.740 --> 22:46.740 No. 22:46.740 --> 22:47.740 One of the pilots 22:47.740 --> 22:48.740 had nothing to do with it. 22:48.740 --> 22:49.740 So a proof, 22:49.740 --> 22:51.740 that he was a doctor. 22:51.740 --> 22:52.740 Not to mention it, 22:52.740 --> 22:54.740 that is absolutely an exaggeration. 22:54.740 --> 22:55.740 But, 22:55.740 --> 22:57.740 to provide 20,000 passengers there, 22:57.740 --> 22:59.740 it has nothing to do with safety. 22:59.740 --> 23:00.740 Let me at least ask for that. 23:00.740 --> 23:02.740 And I'm really in that flying world in the Netherlands, 23:02.740 --> 23:03.740 that's bullshit. 23:03.740 --> 23:04.740 But good. 23:04.740 --> 23:05.740 Okay. 23:05.740 --> 23:06.740 They were behind you, right? 23:06.740 --> 23:07.740 Well, it's terribly difficult. 23:07.740 --> 23:09.740 And you had to have an AOC, 23:09.740 --> 23:11.740 while in every other European country, 23:11.740 --> 23:12.740 it doesn't have to, 23:12.740 --> 23:13.740 so you don't have to, 23:13.740 --> 23:14.740 because you're all owners. 23:14.740 --> 23:15.740 They said, 23:15.740 --> 23:17.740 oh, it's a kind of aircraft carrier. 23:17.740 --> 23:18.740 Well. 23:18.740 --> 23:20.740 So it cost a lot of money. 23:20.740 --> 23:22.740 But we kept going. 23:22.740 --> 23:23.740 And in the meantime, 23:23.740 --> 23:24.740 we also had other companies, 23:24.740 --> 23:25.740 like Jambi, 23:25.740 --> 23:26.740 and Data Barn, 23:26.740 --> 23:27.740 and those kinds of things. 23:27.740 --> 23:29.740 And that went pretty well. 23:29.740 --> 23:30.740 Because we had clients there. 23:30.740 --> 23:31.740 We had Veronica, 23:31.740 --> 23:33.740 for 3 million per year. 23:33.740 --> 23:34.740 Gulden was, 23:34.740 --> 23:35.740 at that time, 23:35.740 --> 23:37.740 we had the state treasury. 23:37.740 --> 23:38.740 It all went well, 23:38.740 --> 23:39.740 while we were, 23:39.740 --> 23:40.740 at the time, 23:40.740 --> 23:41.740 building what was now, 23:41.740 --> 23:42.740 podcasting. 23:42.740 --> 23:43.740 Yes. 23:43.740 --> 23:44.740 Yes. 23:44.740 --> 23:46.740 And I did that with those 3 hackers. 23:46.740 --> 23:47.740 With Anuj, 23:47.740 --> 23:48.740 Taco, 23:48.740 --> 23:49.740 and Michiel. 23:49.740 --> 23:50.740 Yes. 23:50.740 --> 23:51.740 Michael, 23:51.740 --> 23:52.740 Michiel actually. 23:52.740 --> 23:53.740 And, 23:53.740 --> 23:55.740 at some point, 23:55.740 --> 23:57.740 I got a Tuesday morning, 23:57.740 --> 23:59.740 I got an email from Simon. 24:01.740 --> 24:03.740 And we had that helicopter, 24:03.740 --> 24:04.740 so in the meantime, 24:04.740 --> 24:06.740 we had a company, 24:06.740 --> 24:08.740 we had a pilot, 24:08.740 --> 24:10.740 a monteur, 24:10.740 --> 24:12.740 someone for the office, 24:12.740 --> 24:14.740 we really had 3 people working there. 24:14.740 --> 24:15.740 But who was there with their money, 24:15.740 --> 24:16.740 in the helicopter? 24:16.740 --> 24:17.740 Simon and I, both. 24:17.740 --> 24:18.740 50-50. 24:18.740 --> 24:19.740 50-50. 24:19.740 --> 24:20.740 The entire company, 24:20.740 --> 24:21.740 each half, 24:21.740 --> 24:22.740 had to be stored, 24:22.740 --> 24:23.740 everyone stored something. 24:23.740 --> 24:24.740 Right. 24:24.740 --> 24:25.740 And that helicopter, 24:25.740 --> 24:26.740 we bought, 24:26.740 --> 24:27.740 I believe, 24:27.740 --> 24:28.740 for 3.2 million dollars. 24:28.740 --> 24:29.740 Yes. 24:29.740 --> 24:30.740 That was it, I believe. 24:30.740 --> 24:31.740 So each half was paid. 24:31.740 --> 24:32.740 Yes. 24:32.740 --> 24:33.740 And we had expansion plans, 24:33.740 --> 24:34.740 and everything went well. 24:34.740 --> 24:35.740 And, 24:36.740 --> 24:37.740 suddenly, 24:37.740 --> 24:38.740 Tuesday morning, 24:38.740 --> 24:39.740 an email comes from Simon, 24:39.740 --> 24:40.740 and it says, 24:40.740 --> 24:41.740 Living a lie, 24:41.740 --> 24:43.740 and he sent it to the whole world, 24:43.740 --> 24:44.740 to the bank, 24:44.740 --> 24:47.740 to people in the air. 24:49.740 --> 24:50.740 To all the personnel, 24:50.740 --> 24:52.740 everyone had this letter. 24:52.740 --> 24:53.740 And it was, 24:53.740 --> 24:54.740 I don't call Simon Kevin, 24:54.740 --> 24:55.740 so I call Simon Michael Jackson. 24:55.740 --> 24:57.740 I've been looking for 15 years 24:57.740 --> 24:58.740 for the Scotland Yard. 25:00.740 --> 25:02.740 I sat down for Grand Theft Auto, 25:02.740 --> 25:05.740 made by Ecstasy, Smokkele, 25:05.740 --> 25:06.740 well, 25:06.740 --> 25:07.740 and something has just happened, 25:07.740 --> 25:08.740 which means, 25:08.740 --> 25:10.740 I can't live with this lie anymore, 25:10.740 --> 25:11.740 and I'm going to give it to him. 25:11.740 --> 25:12.740 Yes. 25:12.740 --> 25:13.740 What happened then? 25:13.740 --> 25:14.740 Because you, 25:14.740 --> 25:15.740 did it a little... 25:15.740 --> 25:16.740 No, what I think, 25:16.740 --> 25:17.740 what has happened is... 25:17.740 --> 25:18.740 You saw it, right? 25:18.740 --> 25:19.740 Oh, and above that, 25:19.740 --> 25:20.740 he no longer had money. 25:20.740 --> 25:21.740 That was the story. 25:21.740 --> 25:22.740 Because? 25:22.740 --> 25:23.740 Because. 25:23.740 --> 25:24.740 At first, he never had so much money. 25:24.740 --> 25:25.740 He wanted, 25:25.740 --> 25:26.740 in terms of perspective, 25:26.740 --> 25:28.740 he earned 12 million gold, 25:28.740 --> 25:29.740 at the sale of his company. 25:29.740 --> 25:30.740 But yes, 25:30.740 --> 25:32.740 I also know what we invested. 25:32.740 --> 25:33.740 So I could figure it out. 25:33.740 --> 25:34.740 Can you tell? 25:34.740 --> 25:35.740 If you only have 12 million. 25:35.740 --> 25:36.740 There he continued, 25:36.740 --> 25:38.740 he paid for yachts. 25:38.740 --> 25:39.740 Oh man, 25:39.740 --> 25:40.740 $100.000 per week. 25:40.740 --> 25:41.740 Not at Avca Parties. 25:41.740 --> 25:43.740 Jets, the whole fuck, 25:43.740 --> 25:45.740 he gave it out as a fucking car. 25:45.740 --> 25:46.740 He went shopping, 25:46.740 --> 25:47.740 with a whole bunch of people, 25:47.740 --> 25:48.740 and shared, 25:48.740 --> 25:49.740 just go to my costume, 25:49.740 --> 25:50.740 do my shoes, 25:50.740 --> 25:51.740 do my bag. 25:51.740 --> 25:52.740 Yes, 25:52.740 --> 25:53.740 he really bought what that means. 25:53.740 --> 25:54.740 And then we said, 25:54.740 --> 25:55.740 why does he do that? 25:55.740 --> 25:56.740 Why does he do that? 25:56.740 --> 25:57.740 Well, and he has to know that. 25:57.740 --> 25:58.740 That's right. 25:58.740 --> 25:59.740 He has to know that. 25:59.740 --> 26:00.740 His money. 26:00.740 --> 26:02.740 I didn't know how much he had back then, 26:02.740 --> 26:03.740 because he didn't know what he had. 26:03.740 --> 26:05.740 And he's pretty intelligent, 26:05.740 --> 26:06.740 so you always say... 26:06.740 --> 26:07.740 Very intelligent. 26:07.740 --> 26:08.740 You always say, 26:08.740 --> 26:09.740 well, he should know what he's doing. 26:09.740 --> 26:10.740 Yes. 26:10.740 --> 26:11.740 He knows it, right? 26:11.740 --> 26:12.740 Yes, super, super intelligent. 26:12.740 --> 26:13.740 And nice, 26:13.740 --> 26:14.740 really, 26:14.740 --> 26:16.740 I could really think of a good strategy. 26:16.740 --> 26:17.740 It was really, 26:17.740 --> 26:18.740 it was... 26:18.740 --> 26:19.740 A very nice guy. 26:19.740 --> 26:20.740 Yes. 26:20.740 --> 26:22.740 And we laughed terribly with him. 26:22.740 --> 26:23.740 In any case... 26:23.740 --> 26:24.740 That letter came. 26:24.740 --> 26:25.740 Yes, 26:25.740 --> 26:26.740 and he was at home, 26:26.740 --> 26:27.740 his apartment, 26:27.740 --> 26:28.740 a very different Simon. 26:28.740 --> 26:29.740 It looked like a clochar. 26:29.740 --> 26:30.740 Yes, blood. 26:30.740 --> 26:32.740 A big coat on his forehead. 26:32.740 --> 26:33.740 Yes, I was missing. 26:33.740 --> 26:34.740 Well, we know that. 26:34.740 --> 26:36.740 But I think what happened was that he had, 26:36.740 --> 26:38.740 under influence of, I think, 26:38.740 --> 26:39.740 Mickey... 26:39.740 --> 26:40.740 A few kinds of people. 26:40.740 --> 26:41.740 Mickey Hoogendijk. 26:41.740 --> 26:43.740 And the supper club people. 26:43.740 --> 26:46.740 He had bought a church on the Kijschersgracht. 26:46.740 --> 26:49.740 And it had to cost 10 million gulden. 26:49.740 --> 26:51.740 And he would make a club of it. 26:51.740 --> 26:52.740 Yes, and it would also become 26:52.740 --> 26:54.740 a sort of supper club annex. 26:54.740 --> 26:55.740 That was my idea, 26:55.740 --> 26:56.740 again, I don't know, 26:56.740 --> 26:57.740 it's just what I understood 26:57.740 --> 26:58.740 through those years. 26:58.740 --> 26:59.740 A little bit heard here. 26:59.740 --> 27:01.740 Yes, but it's clear that this is not a fact. 27:01.740 --> 27:03.740 It's just what I understood a little bit. 27:03.740 --> 27:04.740 Yes. 27:04.740 --> 27:06.740 Well, of course, 27:06.740 --> 27:11.740 he paid a million for it. 27:11.740 --> 27:12.740 Yes. 27:12.740 --> 27:13.740 And... 27:13.740 --> 27:14.740 He would then invest, 27:14.740 --> 27:15.740 to look for it. 27:15.740 --> 27:16.740 No, no, no, no, no. 27:16.740 --> 27:17.740 Are you going to tell it, 27:17.740 --> 27:18.740 or should I tell it? 27:18.740 --> 27:19.740 No, but I thought he would 27:19.740 --> 27:20.740 take care of it. 27:20.740 --> 27:21.740 Should I just tell it? 27:21.740 --> 27:22.740 Because I think I know it very well. 27:22.740 --> 27:23.740 Oh, I had my own idea. 27:23.740 --> 27:24.740 Yes, well, 27:24.740 --> 27:25.740 that would be incorrect. 27:25.740 --> 27:26.740 I'm going to work as a rollercoaster. 27:26.740 --> 27:27.740 Yes. 27:27.740 --> 27:28.740 That would be fun. 27:28.740 --> 27:30.740 Hey, that was Rotterdam's humor, right? 27:30.740 --> 27:31.740 Yes, I heard it. 27:31.740 --> 27:32.740 I heard it. 27:32.740 --> 27:33.740 It's very good, boy. 27:33.740 --> 27:34.740 No. 27:34.740 --> 27:38.740 He thought that we, in our companies, 27:38.740 --> 27:40.740 would quickly sell those parts 27:40.740 --> 27:41.740 of the helicopter, 27:41.740 --> 27:43.740 that they would have enough money 27:43.740 --> 27:44.740 to... 27:44.740 --> 27:46.740 because he had to pay another million 27:46.740 --> 27:47.740 for it, 27:47.740 --> 27:48.740 and then he really had to... 27:48.740 --> 27:49.740 with a mortgage. 27:49.740 --> 27:50.740 Yes, of course, a mega-hipotech. 27:50.740 --> 27:51.740 And if you don't have a pound, 27:51.740 --> 27:53.740 then you won't get a mortgage from the bank either. 27:53.740 --> 27:54.740 But I thought that he would have 27:54.740 --> 27:55.740 some money to pay. 27:55.740 --> 27:57.740 So it was about one or two million 27:57.740 --> 27:58.740 for what he had to pay. 27:58.740 --> 27:59.740 And the payment, 27:59.740 --> 28:00.740 as far as I know, 28:00.740 --> 28:02.740 was from the guys from the Bulldog. 28:02.740 --> 28:03.740 Well, let me tell you. 28:03.740 --> 28:05.740 If you buy something from these guys, 28:05.740 --> 28:06.740 then you just have to pay 28:06.740 --> 28:07.740 and you don't have to pay. 28:07.740 --> 28:08.740 Aha. 28:08.740 --> 28:12.740 So, yes, that was the reason. 28:12.740 --> 28:14.740 And I think he got a message 28:14.740 --> 28:15.740 from the end of the report. 28:15.740 --> 28:16.740 And he was completely in the rat, 28:16.740 --> 28:17.740 and he was freaking out. 28:17.740 --> 28:18.740 He was freaking out. 28:18.740 --> 28:19.740 Yes, and he was freaking out. 28:19.740 --> 28:21.740 And, well, then... 28:21.740 --> 28:23.740 I don't think he could be alone. 28:23.740 --> 28:24.740 No. 28:24.740 --> 28:25.740 And maybe it's a lot more than that. 28:25.740 --> 28:26.740 I don't know. 28:26.740 --> 28:27.740 We'll never know that. 28:27.740 --> 28:28.740 I don't know. 28:28.740 --> 28:29.740 I don't see it that way either. 28:29.740 --> 28:30.740 So everyone had his e-mail. 28:30.740 --> 28:32.740 But anyway, so what happens next? 28:32.740 --> 28:34.740 So all the shit starts. 28:34.740 --> 28:37.740 Veronica, she turns around with a new president. 28:37.740 --> 28:38.740 And everyone, 28:38.740 --> 28:40.740 statesmen, 28:40.740 --> 28:42.740 the entire helicopter world turns around. 28:42.740 --> 28:44.740 Yes, but what did he do in the meantime? 28:44.740 --> 28:45.740 Oh, he fled. 28:45.740 --> 28:46.740 We haven't told you that yet. 28:46.740 --> 28:47.740 Yes, yes. 28:47.740 --> 28:48.740 He was gone that day, to England. 28:48.740 --> 28:49.740 And he was... 28:49.740 --> 28:50.740 Well, he went there... 28:50.740 --> 28:52.740 He went to Cambodia. 28:52.740 --> 28:54.740 No, he's been there for a year. 28:54.740 --> 28:55.740 He's been back for a while. 28:55.740 --> 28:57.740 In the Netherlands, I've been with him for a year. 28:57.740 --> 28:58.740 I've told Simon. 28:58.740 --> 29:01.740 Because he was just standing on the pinnacle, you know. 29:01.740 --> 29:04.740 So this is only a year later. 29:04.740 --> 29:06.740 Because, well, what did we have to do? 29:06.740 --> 29:08.740 Well, I mean, I'm not going alone. 29:08.740 --> 29:09.740 We're all doing one thing. 29:09.740 --> 29:10.740 Rot on. 29:10.740 --> 29:11.740 No. 29:11.740 --> 29:13.740 He also bought parts of that helicopter. 29:13.740 --> 29:15.740 I still know that you're very shocked. 29:15.740 --> 29:16.740 I was very shocked. 29:16.740 --> 29:17.740 He was really sick of it. 29:17.740 --> 29:18.740 Yes, you're right. 29:18.740 --> 29:20.740 He brought me to Belgium. 29:20.740 --> 29:23.740 I really lived there for five or six days. 29:23.740 --> 29:25.740 Yes, you said... 29:25.740 --> 29:27.740 I don't know what to do. 29:27.740 --> 29:28.740 I'm sick of it. 29:28.740 --> 29:29.740 What do you mean? 29:29.740 --> 29:31.740 And indeed, we left you there. 29:31.740 --> 29:33.740 You said, well, come on, calm down. 29:33.740 --> 29:35.740 And we're going to think about it. 29:35.740 --> 29:37.740 Well, and then I thought... 29:37.740 --> 29:39.740 I called all the people of the company. 29:39.740 --> 29:42.740 So Stu and... 29:42.740 --> 29:44.740 Who was Stu? 29:44.740 --> 29:46.740 Peter and Caroline Stu. 29:46.740 --> 29:47.740 Stuart, the pilot. 29:47.740 --> 29:48.740 Stu. 29:48.740 --> 29:49.740 Okay. 29:49.740 --> 29:51.740 And... 29:51.740 --> 29:53.740 I forgot the name at the same time. 29:53.740 --> 29:55.740 Well, we had four or five people. 29:55.740 --> 29:57.740 The company was just there. 29:57.740 --> 29:58.740 They said, guys, what are we going to do? 29:58.740 --> 29:59.740 We were also in Den Helder. 29:59.740 --> 30:00.740 It doesn't make it that easy. 30:00.740 --> 30:02.740 There was also a problem. 30:02.740 --> 30:03.740 They said, you know what we're doing? 30:03.740 --> 30:05.740 We're selling this box. 30:05.740 --> 30:07.740 Well, those people had to be paid like that. 30:07.740 --> 30:09.740 Well, no, but then I talked to them. 30:09.740 --> 30:13.740 If you continue, then I commit... 30:13.740 --> 30:17.740 that we build up something under a new strategy. 30:17.740 --> 30:20.740 If you want to leave now, you can hit your three months here. 30:20.740 --> 30:22.740 And then you can leave. 30:22.740 --> 30:25.740 And everyone stayed, but Stuart said, 30:25.740 --> 30:26.740 heart-sticken fun. 30:26.740 --> 30:27.740 I see it and continue. 30:27.740 --> 30:28.740 The new operation has been set up. 30:28.740 --> 30:30.740 Denise, who came at that time. 30:30.740 --> 30:31.740 Female pilots. 30:31.740 --> 30:34.740 And then... 30:34.740 --> 30:35.740 And then I'm going away. 30:35.740 --> 30:36.740 Because he... 30:36.740 --> 30:38.740 That of Simon, that wasn't good for him. 30:38.740 --> 30:40.740 He was also an angry Englishman. 30:40.740 --> 30:42.740 And he went to the police to fly in Yorkshire. 30:42.740 --> 30:43.740 So... 30:43.740 --> 30:44.740 Yes, yes. 30:44.740 --> 30:45.740 That certainly wouldn't be good for him. 30:45.740 --> 30:47.740 No, of course not. 30:47.740 --> 30:49.740 So we had to sell that helicopter. 30:49.740 --> 30:50.740 Well, that was something. 30:50.740 --> 30:52.740 Because what just happened? 30:52.740 --> 30:54.740 September 11th. 30:54.740 --> 30:57.740 So yes, no one was waiting for something to fly. 30:57.740 --> 31:00.740 And the brand was completely in sync. 31:00.740 --> 31:02.740 And in those few plants he didn't want anymore? 31:02.740 --> 31:03.740 No. 31:03.740 --> 31:05.740 Everything was over. 31:05.740 --> 31:06.740 The world was over. 31:06.740 --> 31:07.740 No one came again. 31:07.740 --> 31:09.740 No one flew. 31:09.740 --> 31:13.740 Well, in the end, we got a coper. 31:13.740 --> 31:16.740 Because yes, I just paid the salaries every month happily. 31:16.740 --> 31:17.740 And we didn't fly. 31:17.740 --> 31:18.740 It was terrible. 31:18.740 --> 31:19.740 Yes. 31:19.740 --> 31:21.740 So now it's still a little longer. 31:21.740 --> 31:23.740 And in the end we found a coper. 31:23.740 --> 31:24.740 And I think really to Brazil. 31:24.740 --> 31:25.740 All boxes go there. 31:25.740 --> 31:27.740 We got very little money back. 31:27.740 --> 31:29.740 Yes, 2.2 or 2.1. 31:29.740 --> 31:31.740 So we really lost a million dollars. 31:31.740 --> 31:32.740 We lost. 31:32.740 --> 31:33.740 Yes, that was bad. 31:33.740 --> 31:34.740 Yes, good. 31:34.740 --> 31:35.740 You can't see that either. 31:35.740 --> 31:36.740 No, of course not. 31:36.740 --> 31:38.740 And then we had completely gone crazy. 31:38.740 --> 31:40.740 But it's the smaller crew. 31:40.740 --> 31:42.740 With Denise as a pilot. 31:42.740 --> 31:44.740 With that green helicopter. 31:44.740 --> 31:47.740 We had made a deal with René Haring of Haley Holland. 31:47.740 --> 31:49.740 In the meantime I was almost 3 years old. 31:49.740 --> 31:51.740 With the Haleyhavre Amsterdam. 31:51.740 --> 31:52.740 That opens over. 31:52.740 --> 31:53.740 In June. 31:53.740 --> 31:54.740 That's all worked out. 31:54.740 --> 31:55.740 Yes. 31:55.740 --> 31:57.740 And we had hangar on Schiphol. 31:57.740 --> 32:00.740 So now we had the one who didn't take the coper. 32:00.740 --> 32:02.740 We still have a lot to think about. 32:02.740 --> 32:03.740 Yes. 32:03.740 --> 32:05.740 Well, it really went a few weeks. 32:05.740 --> 32:06.740 Hardly fun. 32:06.740 --> 32:08.740 And then our pilot became sick. 32:08.740 --> 32:10.740 Pilots, I have to say. 32:10.740 --> 32:11.740 Yes. 32:11.740 --> 32:13.740 And he was really unemployed. 32:13.740 --> 32:15.740 So he couldn't fly anymore. 32:15.740 --> 32:18.740 But then you have to find a pilot. 32:18.740 --> 32:19.740 That doesn't work in the Netherlands. 32:19.740 --> 32:21.740 And I wouldn't want to quit. 32:21.740 --> 32:24.740 And then we also said, well, God doesn't want this to work. 32:24.740 --> 32:25.740 No. 32:25.740 --> 32:26.740 That was clear. 32:26.740 --> 32:28.740 So are the pilots and the... 32:28.740 --> 32:30.740 We have made a lot of ads ourselves. 32:30.740 --> 32:31.740 Yes, a lot. 32:31.740 --> 32:32.740 And as much as possible. 32:32.740 --> 32:34.740 That was what they meant by those rides. 32:34.740 --> 32:37.740 But of course that was sometimes a bit of a promoter. 32:37.740 --> 32:38.740 To keep the television on. 32:38.740 --> 32:39.740 But listen, in the meantime. 32:39.740 --> 32:41.740 We had sold the helicopter. 32:41.740 --> 32:42.740 Yes. 32:42.740 --> 32:44.740 Simon came back to the Netherlands. 32:44.740 --> 32:46.740 And we had... 32:46.740 --> 32:48.740 He had gone away. 32:48.740 --> 32:49.740 I didn't close anything. 32:49.740 --> 32:50.740 The pin fit and so on. 32:50.740 --> 32:52.740 He just came with the money. 32:52.740 --> 32:56.740 I said to myself, Simon, I have half of everything we invested. 32:56.740 --> 32:58.740 Or at least a share. 32:58.740 --> 33:01.740 I paid back from that helicopter. 33:01.740 --> 33:04.740 I said, now I'm going to rebuild the company. 33:04.740 --> 33:06.740 And I'm going to put that money back in. 33:06.740 --> 33:09.740 And if you ever feel like coming back, then you have to come back. 33:09.740 --> 33:12.740 And otherwise you just have to write down those shares. 33:12.740 --> 33:14.740 I believe that Jesse is still outside. 33:14.740 --> 33:15.740 That it is. 33:15.740 --> 33:16.740 Yes? 33:16.740 --> 33:17.740 Yes. 33:19.740 --> 33:20.740 No, stay there for a while. 33:20.740 --> 33:22.740 But wait a minute. Where is Christine? 33:22.740 --> 33:24.740 Oh yes, we have another one at home. 33:24.740 --> 33:25.740 No, wait a minute. 33:25.740 --> 33:26.740 I'm going to scout her. 33:26.740 --> 33:29.740 Look if Jesse is outside. 33:29.740 --> 33:30.740 I can follow her. 33:30.740 --> 33:32.740 I think I left her in the garden. 33:32.740 --> 33:33.740 I forgot to get in. 33:33.740 --> 33:35.740 I thought so. 33:35.740 --> 33:37.740 Because I don't know. 33:37.740 --> 33:40.740 But there is a reason why that little one is blabbering. 33:40.740 --> 33:42.740 Wait a minute. I think I have something new to pick up. 33:44.740 --> 33:50.740 Hey, can you let Jesse in? 33:50.740 --> 33:52.740 Why blabbering? 33:55.740 --> 33:57.740 Let's see what she says. 33:59.740 --> 34:01.740 Did you hear the door open? 34:06.740 --> 34:08.740 Hey, Christina. 34:10.740 --> 34:11.740 Christina. 34:12.740 --> 34:13.740 Christina. 34:13.740 --> 34:14.740 Yes. 34:14.740 --> 34:15.740 Come here. 34:15.740 --> 34:17.740 Can you let Jesse in? 34:17.740 --> 34:18.740 Yes. 34:18.740 --> 34:19.740 Just a minute. 34:19.740 --> 34:20.740 I don't know. 34:20.740 --> 34:21.740 No, we are podcasting. 34:21.740 --> 34:22.740 Yes, I know. 34:22.740 --> 34:23.740 I'll tell you. 34:23.740 --> 34:24.740 I don't know. 34:24.740 --> 34:26.740 You are going to blow the whole vibe here. 34:26.740 --> 34:28.740 We are in a podcast. 34:31.740 --> 34:33.740 No, you don't know that either. 34:36.740 --> 34:37.740 Hey, hon. 34:37.740 --> 34:39.740 This is extremely boring. 34:39.740 --> 34:41.740 From Alex here? 34:41.740 --> 34:42.740 From me. 34:42.740 --> 34:43.740 Oh, Schaad. 34:43.740 --> 34:44.740 Hello. 34:44.740 --> 34:46.740 No. 34:46.740 --> 34:47.740 Hon. 34:47.740 --> 34:48.740 Wait a minute. 34:48.740 --> 34:50.740 I'm going to think about that. 34:50.740 --> 34:53.740 Most of the time I say, I'm busy. 34:53.740 --> 34:54.740 I'll call you back. 34:54.740 --> 34:55.740 Yes. 34:55.740 --> 34:57.740 Oh, I hope this is very important. 34:57.740 --> 34:58.740 Oh, okay. 34:58.740 --> 35:00.740 It's possible that I still have that. 35:00.740 --> 35:01.740 Go and see. 35:01.740 --> 35:02.740 See you. 35:02.740 --> 35:03.740 Call you back. 35:03.740 --> 35:04.740 Bye. 35:04.740 --> 35:06.740 Yes, it's real. 35:06.740 --> 35:08.740 All throughout life. 35:08.740 --> 35:09.740 Well, whatever. 35:09.740 --> 35:10.740 Yes. 35:10.740 --> 35:13.740 So Simon was at the top. 35:13.740 --> 35:16.740 And I was there. 35:16.740 --> 35:20.740 I still have a year and something of three months. 35:20.740 --> 35:24.740 So I put all that money back in the new operation. 35:24.740 --> 35:25.740 With the new helicopter. 35:25.740 --> 35:26.740 With the new hangar. 35:26.740 --> 35:27.740 All back. 35:27.740 --> 35:28.740 But it was safe. 35:28.740 --> 35:31.740 Because I was going to do a lot with that guy in England or Cambodia. 35:31.740 --> 35:33.740 And now he's in Cambodia, guys. 35:33.740 --> 35:35.740 No, that's nice and fresh. 35:35.740 --> 35:40.740 And then the pilot got sick. 35:40.740 --> 35:41.740 The workers were sick. 35:41.740 --> 35:42.740 I said, you know what? 35:42.740 --> 35:44.740 I had to do that a lot earlier. 35:44.740 --> 35:45.740 I put that whole thing on. 35:45.740 --> 35:48.740 I paid their three months off. 35:48.740 --> 35:52.740 And I also started a new company with them. 35:52.740 --> 35:54.740 Where they were also shareholders. 35:54.740 --> 35:56.740 For the Amsterdam Heliport. 35:56.740 --> 35:57.740 For the Helihave. 35:57.740 --> 35:58.740 Yes, yes, yes. 35:58.740 --> 36:05.740 And then I had them on loan three quarters of a year ago. 36:05.740 --> 36:08.740 So that just went on. 36:08.740 --> 36:10.740 But up, away with it. 36:10.740 --> 36:13.740 So I asked myself the old man for that money. 36:13.740 --> 36:16.740 Because there are two debtors. 36:16.740 --> 36:18.740 Simon and I. 36:18.740 --> 36:21.740 And now I've put all that money back in. 36:21.740 --> 36:24.740 So I actually invested more than he did. 36:24.740 --> 36:25.740 Yes. 36:25.740 --> 36:26.740 And you worked hard. 36:26.740 --> 36:27.740 Yes. 36:27.740 --> 36:31.740 And then he said, I'll close that tent. 36:31.740 --> 36:33.740 And so no one gets paid. 36:33.740 --> 36:35.740 No. 36:35.740 --> 36:39.740 And then it happens that there's a curator. 36:39.740 --> 36:41.740 I've never heard of him. 36:41.740 --> 36:42.740 Well, I don't know. 36:42.740 --> 36:44.740 Because I'm an American entrepreneur. 36:44.740 --> 36:45.740 And that doesn't exist. 36:45.740 --> 36:48.740 And that man suddenly started through the newspaper. 36:48.740 --> 36:49.740 Yes. 36:49.740 --> 36:50.740 Through his friend Martijn Kohlhove. 36:50.740 --> 36:52.740 I think it's so rough, too. 36:52.740 --> 36:53.740 I think so. 36:53.740 --> 36:55.740 He started to play other pieces. 36:55.740 --> 36:57.740 And he was very broad-minded. 36:57.740 --> 36:59.740 That I... 36:59.740 --> 37:01.740 That there was tax research. 37:01.740 --> 37:02.740 He didn't go there. 37:02.740 --> 37:03.740 That wasn't true. 37:03.740 --> 37:06.740 No, but he looked for contact with the tax service. 37:06.740 --> 37:08.740 In order to start their research. 37:08.740 --> 37:09.740 What has happened. 37:09.740 --> 37:10.740 Boeven, boeven. 37:10.740 --> 37:11.740 Yes. 37:11.740 --> 37:14.740 So that I flew privately with the helicopter. 37:14.740 --> 37:15.740 Tax evasion. 37:15.740 --> 37:16.740 One order. 37:16.740 --> 37:18.740 The administration doesn't fit. 37:18.740 --> 37:19.740 Did he all agree? 37:19.740 --> 37:20.740 Yes. 37:20.740 --> 37:21.740 So, yes. 37:21.740 --> 37:22.740 And... 37:22.740 --> 37:23.740 Oh, sorry. 37:23.740 --> 37:24.740 Very... 37:24.740 --> 37:25.740 Very surprising. 37:25.740 --> 37:26.740 He had... 37:26.740 --> 37:28.740 Again, as two debtors. 37:28.740 --> 37:29.740 I and Simon. 37:29.740 --> 37:31.740 Both for the same reason. 37:31.740 --> 37:32.740 Yes. 37:32.740 --> 37:35.740 He had bought Simon's debt. 37:35.740 --> 37:37.740 So he worked for himself. 37:37.740 --> 37:38.740 While he of course... 37:38.740 --> 37:39.740 And still. 37:39.740 --> 37:40.740 And he also worked for me. 37:40.740 --> 37:42.740 Because of course I'm also a debtor. 37:42.740 --> 37:44.740 So it's all very rough. 37:44.740 --> 37:46.740 But what's so strange is... 37:46.740 --> 37:49.740 Depending on how you do it in the Netherlands. 37:49.740 --> 37:51.740 You can just send a letter to the real investors. 37:51.740 --> 37:53.740 And tell them your story. 37:53.740 --> 37:55.740 Without there being anything of the opposition party. 37:55.740 --> 37:57.740 Then you can file a complaint. 37:57.740 --> 37:58.740 Yes. 37:58.740 --> 38:00.740 It came from the time of the ship. 38:00.740 --> 38:01.740 Not a little bit. 38:01.740 --> 38:03.740 But fucking everything. 38:03.740 --> 38:05.740 Because of course all the people were involved. 38:05.740 --> 38:07.740 Where our calculations were. 38:07.740 --> 38:08.740 Especially with the ABN. 38:08.740 --> 38:10.740 We also know exactly who. 38:10.740 --> 38:11.740 And... 38:11.740 --> 38:13.740 And everything was fixed. 38:13.740 --> 38:15.740 Really gigantic. 38:15.740 --> 38:17.740 But also from you. 38:17.740 --> 38:18.740 And that was... 38:18.740 --> 38:19.740 And I didn't get it right. 38:19.740 --> 38:21.740 And that was unregistered compensation. 38:21.740 --> 38:22.740 Because you had... 38:22.740 --> 38:25.740 He thought that after the calculations were sent. 38:25.740 --> 38:26.740 What was your name on it. 38:26.740 --> 38:28.740 Well, you can go. 38:28.740 --> 38:30.740 So that's not right. 38:30.740 --> 38:32.740 So then you get all of those things. 38:32.740 --> 38:33.740 The hero of the house. 38:33.740 --> 38:35.740 Oh man, what a piece of paper. 38:35.740 --> 38:37.740 And an advocate. 38:37.740 --> 38:39.740 Outside all these things. 38:39.740 --> 38:41.740 Outside, because we all save it. 38:41.740 --> 38:43.740 Outside these things. 38:43.740 --> 38:44.740 That such a man. 38:44.740 --> 38:45.740 That constantly. 38:45.740 --> 38:47.740 In the newspaper. 38:47.740 --> 38:50.740 So a friend is going to call the telegram. 38:50.740 --> 38:51.740 In the quote. 38:51.740 --> 38:52.740 In the words. 38:52.740 --> 38:53.740 That's terrible. 38:53.740 --> 38:55.740 Because I think it's something very personal. 38:55.740 --> 38:58.740 What is difficult enough to solve with such a friend. 38:58.740 --> 38:59.740 And how he did for example. 38:59.740 --> 39:01.740 I of course sat with him. 39:01.740 --> 39:04.740 Oh yeah, so the pilot became sick. 39:04.740 --> 39:06.740 You know, it's so close. 39:06.740 --> 39:08.740 And the girl, the carrier, is gone. 39:08.740 --> 39:10.740 Because of her... 39:10.740 --> 39:11.740 That she can't work anymore. 39:11.740 --> 39:13.740 Can you imagine how that affected her? 39:13.740 --> 39:14.740 And she was there, you know. 39:14.740 --> 39:15.740 It was terrible. 39:15.740 --> 39:16.740 And you're a man. 39:16.740 --> 39:17.740 And what's his name? 39:17.740 --> 39:19.740 Oskamp. 39:19.740 --> 39:22.740 And if you want to know who that is. 39:22.740 --> 39:24.740 He once stood in the crowd. 39:24.740 --> 39:27.740 While he was already in love with us. 39:27.740 --> 39:29.740 That he was threatened. 39:29.740 --> 39:30.740 And he had to die. 39:30.740 --> 39:31.740 Because he... 39:31.740 --> 39:33.740 There are a lot more people angry at him. 39:33.740 --> 39:34.740 Yes, exactly. 39:34.740 --> 39:35.740 But crazy. 39:35.740 --> 39:37.740 I mean, Patty Brat is right. 39:37.740 --> 39:39.740 But he has it too. 39:39.740 --> 39:40.740 Is that an assignment? 39:40.740 --> 39:41.740 A wish? 39:41.740 --> 39:43.740 No, but that's the only one. 39:43.740 --> 39:46.740 She also said, it just has to be over. 39:46.740 --> 39:47.740 With these people. 39:47.740 --> 39:48.740 I mean... 39:48.740 --> 39:50.740 Oh, I'm still angry at her. 39:50.740 --> 39:52.740 But she's right about that. 39:52.740 --> 39:54.740 This just can't be done. 39:54.740 --> 39:56.740 How do they deal with that? 39:56.740 --> 39:58.740 Well, long story short. 39:58.740 --> 39:59.740 That is... 39:59.740 --> 40:02.740 That's been around for years. 40:02.740 --> 40:04.740 Years of this matter. 40:04.740 --> 40:06.740 Yes, because we're talking about when it started. 40:06.740 --> 40:07.740 2002 or something. 40:07.740 --> 40:08.740 Yes. 40:08.740 --> 40:10.740 Years of it. 40:10.740 --> 40:11.740 Three years. 40:11.740 --> 40:13.740 And so, can I say that again? 40:13.740 --> 40:14.740 My story. 40:14.740 --> 40:15.740 So... 40:15.740 --> 40:17.740 So they come... 40:17.740 --> 40:18.740 You can see some dwarves. 40:18.740 --> 40:19.740 I've seen a show like that. 40:19.740 --> 40:21.740 Oh, you can really come to the street this summer. 40:21.740 --> 40:23.740 That's how you get into a cardboard box, right? 40:23.740 --> 40:24.740 Yes, I can really... 40:24.740 --> 40:26.740 If you can fall back to nothing. 40:26.740 --> 40:27.740 Yes. 40:27.740 --> 40:28.740 Then you're smart. 40:28.740 --> 40:29.740 You're smart. 40:29.740 --> 40:30.740 And you're... 40:30.740 --> 40:32.740 Without all those stupid stories, 40:32.740 --> 40:33.740 you're a huge business man. 40:33.740 --> 40:34.740 You're also coordinated. 40:34.740 --> 40:35.740 You have that. 40:35.740 --> 40:36.740 But you have... 40:36.740 --> 40:37.740 You have it right for each other. 40:37.740 --> 40:38.740 So... 40:38.740 --> 40:40.740 You're not behind the dead. 40:40.740 --> 40:41.740 You know that they... 40:41.740 --> 40:42.740 You're smart. 40:42.740 --> 40:44.740 But if you don't have it, as a regular... 40:44.740 --> 40:45.740 Yes, you're fucked. 40:45.740 --> 40:46.740 A businessman. 40:46.740 --> 40:47.740 A small businessman. 40:47.740 --> 40:48.740 This happens. 40:48.740 --> 40:49.740 Yes, then you're fucked. 40:49.740 --> 40:50.740 You're fucked. 40:50.740 --> 40:52.740 Because then you come to the street. 40:52.740 --> 40:54.740 And then you don't have an address. 40:54.740 --> 40:55.740 You come. 40:55.740 --> 40:56.740 No, I've seen it. 40:56.740 --> 40:57.740 A TV show about a man... 40:57.740 --> 40:58.740 Yes. 40:58.740 --> 40:59.740 Who is... 40:59.740 --> 41:02.740 And the curator is often in the spotlight in the Netherlands. 41:02.740 --> 41:03.740 Not just us. 41:03.740 --> 41:04.740 But a little more. 41:04.740 --> 41:06.740 But no one can do that. 41:06.740 --> 41:08.740 Yes, but the whole legal system in the Netherlands. 41:08.740 --> 41:09.740 It's allowed. 41:09.740 --> 41:10.740 Yes. 41:10.740 --> 41:11.740 Yes. 41:11.740 --> 41:12.740 Everyone is in their place. 41:12.740 --> 41:13.740 Because you have a complaint. 41:13.740 --> 41:15.740 He's just a curator. 41:15.740 --> 41:16.740 He's just an advocate. 41:16.740 --> 41:17.740 Yes. 41:17.740 --> 41:18.740 But you have a complaint about him. 41:18.740 --> 41:19.740 Yes. 41:19.740 --> 41:20.740 Then he comes to the back. 41:20.740 --> 41:21.740 And says... 41:21.740 --> 41:22.740 Don't you want to do that anymore? 41:22.740 --> 41:23.740 Yes. 41:23.740 --> 41:24.740 And then... 41:24.740 --> 41:25.740 So that doesn't make any sense. 41:25.740 --> 41:26.740 No. 41:26.740 --> 41:29.740 We come easily, but as a businessman. 41:29.740 --> 41:30.740 And that's your only business. 41:30.740 --> 41:32.740 And you have a whole heap of holders in it. 41:32.740 --> 41:35.740 Just the moment you actually need help to get on your feet. 41:35.740 --> 41:36.740 Yes. 41:36.740 --> 41:38.740 And then you'll be forced to do that today. 41:38.740 --> 41:39.740 Yes. 41:39.740 --> 41:41.740 This has been happening for the last seven years. 41:41.740 --> 41:42.740 Yes. 41:42.740 --> 41:43.740 This is terrible. 41:43.740 --> 41:45.740 I also heard the week I was in the Netherlands. 41:45.740 --> 41:48.740 They said that the economy was so terrible in the Netherlands. 41:48.740 --> 41:49.740 Yes, but it's a different problem. 41:49.740 --> 41:50.740 Yes, but okay. 41:50.740 --> 41:52.740 The Netherlands has destroyed all the entrepreneurs. 41:52.740 --> 41:53.740 That's what I mean. 41:53.740 --> 41:54.740 Yes. 41:54.740 --> 41:55.740 If you... 41:55.740 --> 41:56.740 Entrepreneurs. 41:56.740 --> 41:58.740 Because how many people didn't have a job together? 41:58.740 --> 41:59.740 Fifty percent. 41:59.740 --> 42:02.740 That's work that you have for other people, right? 42:02.740 --> 42:03.740 Yes. 42:03.740 --> 42:07.740 If you go around with your entrepreneurs like this, 42:07.740 --> 42:10.740 then you know where the country is going to collapse. 42:10.740 --> 42:12.740 Well, what happens? 42:12.740 --> 42:14.740 Who said that? 42:14.740 --> 42:16.740 I don't know who said it. 42:16.740 --> 42:18.740 We will grow in the Netherlands soon. 42:18.740 --> 42:19.740 I was your car. 42:19.740 --> 42:21.740 You clean my house. 42:21.740 --> 42:25.740 I drive a driver for you. 42:25.740 --> 42:27.740 Soon we won't make anything in the Netherlands. 42:27.740 --> 42:28.740 We don't have anything to export. 42:28.740 --> 42:29.740 We don't have a product. 42:29.740 --> 42:32.740 We don't have a high industry anymore. 42:32.740 --> 42:33.740 That's a bit... 42:33.740 --> 42:36.740 That's a bit of a concern for which economy we need. 42:36.740 --> 42:37.740 But I think so. 42:37.740 --> 42:39.740 And that can still be remembered when we... 42:39.740 --> 42:41.740 Do you still want to say that? 42:41.740 --> 42:42.740 Yes. 42:42.740 --> 42:47.740 When we were in America, you could also see that the American Dream, 42:47.740 --> 42:50.740 that also comes from the fact, for example, 42:50.740 --> 42:52.740 that you often saw, that people... 42:52.740 --> 42:54.740 Yes, this was a American Dream. 42:54.740 --> 42:59.740 People who were baking cookies at home and now have a very large cookie factory. 42:59.740 --> 43:02.740 That they really make the dream come true. 43:02.740 --> 43:05.740 Because they are just supported in it. 43:05.740 --> 43:07.740 When you say in America, I have a great idea, 43:07.740 --> 43:09.740 but I need money, 43:09.740 --> 43:11.740 then there are people there who help you. 43:11.740 --> 43:12.740 As much as possible. 43:12.740 --> 43:14.740 Well, then you just have to go to America. 43:14.740 --> 43:15.740 Yes, that's also true. 43:15.740 --> 43:19.740 But that's why the rule that American Dream exists. 43:19.740 --> 43:21.740 Because it's possible. 43:21.740 --> 43:22.740 Yes, but then I... 43:22.740 --> 43:25.740 In the Netherlands there is only the Dutch nightmarish. 43:25.740 --> 43:29.740 Yes, it's just that if you're looking for an American Dream, you have to do it in America. 43:29.740 --> 43:31.740 It's very bad, what that means. 43:31.740 --> 43:33.740 What that means. 43:33.740 --> 43:36.740 I have to say, I was really bad informed about how bad it was. 43:36.740 --> 43:38.740 Yes, and I told you about it. 43:38.740 --> 43:40.740 You also have to be honest. 43:40.740 --> 43:42.740 Ladies and gentlemen, she told me about it. 43:42.740 --> 43:44.740 Because we started the program, for sure. 43:44.740 --> 43:45.740 Yes, and you said, 43:45.740 --> 43:48.740 No, I don't want to. 43:48.740 --> 43:50.740 No, I don't want to go to the Netherlands. 43:50.740 --> 43:52.740 But how often do I have to forbid it? 43:52.740 --> 43:53.740 Yes, I know it. 43:53.740 --> 44:00.740 But not because I think I've been there for a week and the Rotterdamers are so nice. 44:00.740 --> 44:01.740 They're so sweet. 44:01.740 --> 44:03.740 We understand each other so well. 44:03.740 --> 44:04.740 Yes. 44:04.740 --> 44:07.740 And it's not about the Dutch people, let me put it this way. 44:07.740 --> 44:09.740 You're just as bad with us. 44:09.740 --> 44:13.740 I love the Dutch people and I love the Rotterdamers especially. 44:13.740 --> 44:14.740 That's not it. 44:14.740 --> 44:16.740 It's not like, huh? 44:16.740 --> 44:22.740 Yes, but what I always tell you and you have to compare me again. 44:22.740 --> 44:30.740 Is that much less people think about all this shit that slings around in their own world. 44:30.740 --> 44:33.740 In that so-called showbiz world in the Netherlands. 44:33.740 --> 44:35.740 No one gives a fuck. 44:35.740 --> 44:41.740 It's really a lot around the world and what it all means to them. 44:41.740 --> 44:43.740 They're very busy with it. 44:43.740 --> 44:45.740 And the others have their own problems. 44:45.740 --> 44:47.740 They're doing something else. 44:47.740 --> 44:48.740 Yes, but this is... 44:48.740 --> 44:51.740 And especially when you said that everyone was very happy in Rotterdam. 44:51.740 --> 44:52.740 Yes, very nice. 44:52.740 --> 44:54.740 It was nice to be there. 44:54.740 --> 44:57.740 And they have it in their mind. 44:57.740 --> 45:02.740 Where the people are mostly busy with it is to make their house beautiful. 45:02.740 --> 45:04.740 You just notice that... 45:04.740 --> 45:11.740 Because there is a bit of a discontent about the Netherlands and how it runs in the Netherlands. 45:11.740 --> 45:14.740 And that they all feel a bit cramped. 45:14.740 --> 45:15.740 Do you know what? 45:15.740 --> 45:16.740 There is the space... 45:16.740 --> 45:18.740 Do you know what I would believe? 45:18.740 --> 45:21.740 That they make fun of it inside. 45:21.740 --> 45:22.740 And that's what I noticed. 45:22.740 --> 45:24.740 They have a nice space. 45:24.740 --> 45:27.740 They have amazing gardens and barbecues. 45:27.740 --> 45:29.740 They do everything nicely. 45:29.740 --> 45:31.740 All of the frissias? 45:31.740 --> 45:32.740 Yes. 45:32.740 --> 45:35.740 No, but that's what you're going to get. 45:35.740 --> 45:42.740 The Netherlands has to vote in the referendum on a European constitution. 45:42.740 --> 45:44.740 Within two weeks. 45:44.740 --> 45:46.740 I believe France will come after that. 45:46.740 --> 45:49.740 And the Netherlands will vote no. 45:49.740 --> 45:51.740 That's a big fucking deal. 45:51.740 --> 45:56.740 You have to imagine, you know about the Constitution of America. 45:56.740 --> 46:00.740 Where John Hancock and Benjamin Franklin... 46:00.740 --> 46:02.740 That's where the constitution is. 46:02.740 --> 46:04.740 Land is created for all men. 46:04.740 --> 46:06.740 Equal of race, color, creed. 46:06.740 --> 46:07.740 That kind of thing. 46:07.740 --> 46:08.740 The constitution. 46:08.740 --> 46:10.740 That's what you hear in Disney World. 46:10.740 --> 46:13.740 That's all pretty well arranged in this constitution. 46:13.740 --> 46:15.740 The freedom of the people. 46:15.740 --> 46:17.740 The constitution is who the power has. 46:17.740 --> 46:18.740 And... 46:18.740 --> 46:20.740 That's also an amicron. 46:20.740 --> 46:21.740 You'll understand that. 46:21.740 --> 46:23.740 But no one knows where it really comes from. 46:23.740 --> 46:27.740 But everyone is so dissatisfied with the cabinet and Peter Balkenende, 46:27.740 --> 46:31.740 and the way they play with Zalm and that all those ministers... 46:31.740 --> 46:34.740 they're just sitting with all the problems. 46:34.740 --> 46:36.740 That they're actually... 46:36.740 --> 46:42.740 is a very good way to make some changes by voting no. 46:42.740 --> 46:43.740 Really. 46:43.740 --> 46:47.060 Because the whole world comes about, the whole world press comes about the Netherlands. 46:47.060 --> 46:52.700 I also read here often in the newspapers, well, the Netherlands has problems and it indeed looks like they're going to vote for the Netherlands. 46:52.700 --> 46:56.420 If the Netherlands vote for the Netherlands, then France can vote for the Netherlands. 46:56.420 --> 47:00.900 France is anyway a little bit, they want to be on their own. 47:00.900 --> 47:04.620 But how many Dutch people will not go to France? 47:04.620 --> 47:07.220 Is it a sign for you? 47:07.220 --> 47:10.860 No, but it is not eaten and so on. 47:10.940 --> 47:14.820 Well, that would be the whole thing that would blow up. 47:14.820 --> 47:18.900 Well, then it starts, then the cabinet can also suddenly have to break up. 47:18.900 --> 47:21.820 Yes, there just has to be something to change, there just has to be something to change. 47:21.820 --> 47:25.740 We have to, yes, we have nothing to do with this. 47:25.740 --> 47:26.980 We have Tony Blair. 47:26.980 --> 47:31.140 Well, but that people know, we have not gone away, because we do not like the Netherlands. 47:31.140 --> 47:32.020 That that is true. 47:32.020 --> 47:32.900 No, not at all. 47:32.900 --> 47:34.420 But just ... 47:34.420 --> 47:40.260 You are still hearing often that the entrepreneurs, yes, we wanted to go here anyway, but as an entrepreneur, 47:40.340 --> 47:42.620 we are entrepreneurs, so then ... 47:42.620 --> 47:44.580 Well, I don't want to anymore, now. 47:44.580 --> 47:46.020 Have you found enough? 47:46.020 --> 47:47.020 I have found enough. 47:47.020 --> 47:48.020 Really? 47:48.020 --> 47:49.020 Yes. 47:49.020 --> 47:50.020 Well, I'm still playing. 47:50.020 --> 47:51.020 I'm still enjoying a little bit. 47:51.020 --> 47:52.020 Yes, I know that. 47:52.020 --> 47:53.020 But you are still young. 47:53.020 --> 47:54.020 I have to do it. 47:54.020 --> 47:55.020 OK. 47:55.020 --> 47:56.020 Certainly. 47:56.020 --> 47:57.020 Do you want to do this podcast again? 47:57.020 --> 48:01.740 We are on 48 minutes, from which we have to listen to for sure five minutes. 48:01.740 --> 48:02.740 You want to make fun of me? 48:02.740 --> 48:03.740 No, you can't. 48:03.740 --> 48:04.740 Shall I tell you something nice? 48:04.740 --> 48:05.740 No, it's not true. 48:05.740 --> 48:06.740 It's not true. 48:06.740 --> 48:11.740 Hey, have I already told you how I feel about you? 48:11.740 --> 48:14.740 Oh, I love you, baby. 48:14.740 --> 48:15.740 Oh, I love you too. 48:15.740 --> 48:16.740 Was that it? 48:16.740 --> 48:17.740 You don't have anything else? 48:17.740 --> 48:18.740 No, yes. 48:18.740 --> 48:19.740 Oh. 48:19.740 --> 48:23.740 What is also funny to tell is that the Adams family ... 48:23.740 --> 48:24.740 If you say it yourself. 48:24.740 --> 48:25.740 Adams family ... 48:25.740 --> 48:26.740 Shall we talk about it next time? 48:26.740 --> 48:28.740 Shall we talk about it later? 48:28.740 --> 48:29.740 Later? 48:29.740 --> 48:30.740 No, next time. 48:30.740 --> 48:31.740 Next time, I mean. 48:31.740 --> 48:33.740 I'm going to go to America Sunday again. 48:33.740 --> 48:35.740 Do you want to do it Saturday? 48:35.740 --> 48:36.740 Yes, that's nice. 48:36.740 --> 48:39.740 Yes, because that's a story like that again. 48:39.740 --> 48:41.740 Do you want to do that in a few minutes? 48:41.740 --> 48:45.740 Oh, by the way, I've told you that. 48:45.740 --> 48:48.740 Patty Brart had called Yvonne. 48:48.740 --> 48:50.740 That was on television too. 48:50.740 --> 48:51.740 Yes. 48:51.740 --> 48:52.740 Yes, that's what she wants. 48:52.740 --> 48:54.740 Well, good, but the program is still going. 48:54.740 --> 48:55.740 Not really, of course. 48:55.740 --> 48:56.740 But she just wants to score. 48:56.740 --> 48:58.740 What do you have to do next to such a program? 48:58.740 --> 49:01.740 If you have made everyone first Russian, then you're going to make everyone good. 49:01.740 --> 49:02.740 What is next? 49:02.740 --> 49:03.740 Then do you have a program again? 49:03.740 --> 49:06.740 What series do you do after that? 49:06.740 --> 49:12.740 Then she's going to check in an institute or something. 49:12.740 --> 49:13.740 Hey, let's talk about it. 49:13.740 --> 49:18.740 I just want to say something controversial, because I don't think I've done that yet. 49:18.740 --> 49:21.740 I applaud Jack Spiker, man. 49:21.740 --> 49:25.740 I know that everyone in the Netherlands thinks I'm Lul, and on the left and on the right, full. 49:25.740 --> 49:28.740 But believe me, that Farah is also a little guy. 49:28.740 --> 49:30.740 How do you know? 49:30.740 --> 49:32.740 Baby, I am a media professional. 49:32.740 --> 49:34.740 Who was at the Farah? 49:34.740 --> 49:35.740 I know. 49:35.740 --> 49:36.740 I know what happened at the Farah. 49:36.740 --> 49:38.740 Look at all the people who do it today. 49:38.740 --> 49:41.740 Jeroen Soer, the most commercial motherfucker in the radio that I know. 49:41.740 --> 49:43.740 That kind of people. 49:43.740 --> 49:44.740 No, really. 49:44.740 --> 49:47.740 But what the Farah wanted to give commercially, at a glance. 49:47.740 --> 49:48.740 Vera Keur. 49:48.740 --> 49:55.740 Well, I think that Jack Spiker, man, finally gets the space to do what he wants. 49:55.740 --> 49:56.740 Really. 49:56.740 --> 49:57.740 I'm not my friend. 49:57.740 --> 49:58.740 Really not. 49:58.740 --> 50:00.740 No, he certainly doesn't. 50:00.740 --> 50:01.740 He doesn't like us either. 50:01.740 --> 50:03.740 And I don't believe in the project of John de Mol. 50:03.740 --> 50:05.740 I think it's all heart-to-heart, fun and nice. 50:05.740 --> 50:07.740 But the Netherlands is too small. 50:07.740 --> 50:10.740 With football, you can take heart-to-heart money well. 50:10.740 --> 50:15.740 But are you going to give out useless things on the back? 50:15.740 --> 50:19.740 Who is waiting for a new RTL4? 50:19.740 --> 50:21.740 There are already 15 shows in the Netherlands. 50:21.740 --> 50:22.740 It's not interesting. 50:22.740 --> 50:23.740 I have it by the way. 50:23.740 --> 50:27.740 He makes good shows, but I prefer that he sells that to the public. 50:27.740 --> 50:29.740 You think it's a bad idea. 50:29.740 --> 50:30.740 I don't think it's a good idea. 50:30.740 --> 50:33.740 No, I know what he wants. 50:33.740 --> 50:36.740 What does he have in his head? 50:36.740 --> 50:40.740 I know exactly what he believes, and that's the whole story. 50:40.740 --> 50:48.740 He believes that you can go together with the Internet, mobile phones, SMS, etc. 50:48.740 --> 50:52.740 and television. 50:52.740 --> 50:54.740 And I believe in that. 50:55.740 --> 51:00.740 Before Big Brother, I was with Big Brother at the beginning. 51:00.740 --> 51:03.740 I had to come to his office in the middle of the night. 51:03.740 --> 51:05.740 We already knew that. 51:05.740 --> 51:06.740 With Bart? 51:06.740 --> 51:08.740 Yes, with Bart at the beginning. 51:08.740 --> 51:10.740 He was someone of Big Brother. 51:10.740 --> 51:13.740 I couldn't buy the Internet rights for 2 million. 51:13.740 --> 51:14.740 He wanted to join you. 51:14.740 --> 51:16.740 I didn't have it then. 51:16.740 --> 51:18.740 That was a mistake. 51:18.740 --> 51:19.740 I didn't have it. 51:19.740 --> 51:21.740 It was before we were in the Netherlands. 51:21.740 --> 51:23.740 It was long before the company was sold. 51:23.740 --> 51:26.740 I didn't have 2 million to put down. 51:26.740 --> 51:28.740 To stop it? 51:28.740 --> 51:30.740 No, it's done. 51:30.740 --> 51:32.740 But I didn't believe it. 51:32.740 --> 51:35.740 If I had really believed it, I would have had the money. 51:35.740 --> 51:36.740 No, I believed it. 51:36.740 --> 51:37.740 That was wrong. 51:37.740 --> 51:39.740 What happened next? 51:39.740 --> 51:41.740 Big Brother had a hit. 51:41.740 --> 51:43.740 That went around the whole world. 51:43.740 --> 51:45.740 Then the rights were suddenly interesting. 51:45.740 --> 51:46.740 It doesn't matter. 51:46.740 --> 51:48.740 He believed that they had to go together. 51:48.740 --> 51:50.740 And I believe that too. 51:50.740 --> 51:52.740 But I see it much more in a way... 51:52.740 --> 51:56.740 ...that the gloss-up is made. 51:56.740 --> 51:59.740 That the internet thing is rolling. 51:59.740 --> 52:03.740 That's what I believe in. 52:03.740 --> 52:05.740 I have to say that. 52:05.740 --> 52:07.740 Because I see it on everyone. 52:07.740 --> 52:09.740 But on the internet. 52:09.740 --> 52:10.740 Hey, the internet. 52:10.740 --> 52:12.740 That could be something. 52:12.740 --> 52:14.740 I'm from the Bakkenliedtelephone. 52:14.740 --> 52:17.740 Internet world. 52:17.740 --> 52:19.740 That's what it is. 52:19.740 --> 52:21.740 It's always on display. 52:21.740 --> 52:22.740 It is. 52:22.740 --> 52:23.740 And I believe it. 52:23.740 --> 52:25.740 You understand what I mean. 52:25.740 --> 52:27.740 He takes it from the big... 52:27.740 --> 52:30.740 I mean the versetel of the majority... 52:30.740 --> 52:32.740 ...of the majority. 52:32.740 --> 52:35.740 And then the talent of Hilversum... 52:35.740 --> 52:37.740 ...the talent of the shareholders. 52:37.740 --> 52:39.740 They do it together. 52:39.740 --> 52:41.740 And then it has to be done... 52:41.740 --> 52:43.740 ...with television production and big telecoms. 52:43.740 --> 52:45.740 But I don't believe it. 52:45.740 --> 52:48.740 It's the most expensive way of working. 52:48.740 --> 52:50.740 And I see the gloss-up. 52:50.740 --> 52:52.740 I see people who... 52:52.740 --> 52:55.740 ...are going to distribute money... 52:55.740 --> 52:56.740 ...that's coming in. 52:56.740 --> 52:58.740 And people who watch movies. 52:58.740 --> 52:59.740 I believe that. 52:59.740 --> 53:01.740 The Netherlands is a small market. 53:01.740 --> 53:03.740 I don't know if it will be enough in the Netherlands. 53:03.740 --> 53:04.740 But America. 53:04.740 --> 53:06.740 I think that's the future of television. 53:06.740 --> 53:09.740 And if we have found a charger... 53:09.740 --> 53:11.740 ...we don't run to the movies... 53:11.740 --> 53:13.740 ...and to the iPads. 53:13.740 --> 53:15.740 We just have to turn on the radio... 53:15.740 --> 53:16.740 ...or the CNN. 53:16.740 --> 53:17.740 That's something different. 53:17.740 --> 53:18.740 That's live. 53:18.740 --> 53:20.740 That's when we all have to watch it. 53:20.740 --> 53:22.740 Just look at the gloss-up... 53:22.740 --> 53:24.740 ...and the show Neils... 53:24.740 --> 53:25.740 ...and Boulevard. 53:25.740 --> 53:29.740 No, but they take everything from the internet. 53:29.740 --> 53:31.740 You can just look at the internet. 53:31.740 --> 53:32.740 Voila. 53:32.740 --> 53:35.740 But that's a very stale production. 53:35.740 --> 53:37.740 That means there's only money. 53:37.740 --> 53:39.740 And that's the problem. 53:39.740 --> 53:41.740 That costs a lot of money. 53:41.740 --> 53:43.740 Next time on The Erms Family... 53:43.740 --> 53:45.740 ...you can just make it at home. 53:45.740 --> 53:47.740 And we're going to explain that... 53:47.740 --> 53:49.740 ...and then we're going to tell you... 53:49.740 --> 53:51.740 ...how angry they were about it. 53:51.740 --> 53:54.740 Because that was actually what happened. 53:54.740 --> 53:56.740 And where all the hate and hate... 53:56.740 --> 53:57.740 Oh, there's the tune. 53:57.740 --> 53:58.740 Sorry. 53:59.740 --> 54:00.740 Sorry, there's the tune. 54:00.740 --> 54:03.740 That's a very nice story we're going to tell next time. 54:03.740 --> 54:05.740 It's very different than what people think. 54:11.740 --> 54:13.740 Nice conversation. 54:13.740 --> 54:14.740 It's tight. 54:16.740 --> 54:17.740 Hey, I'm looking... 54:17.740 --> 54:19.740 For your teacher. 54:19.740 --> 54:20.740 Oh, teacher. 54:20.740 --> 54:22.740 Learn to talk to him. 54:23.740 --> 54:25.740 Hey, I'm looking forward to the next... 54:25.740 --> 54:27.740 ...right for Zara podcast. 54:27.740 --> 54:30.740 This is actually also a bit of therapy. 54:30.740 --> 54:31.740 Yes. 54:31.740 --> 54:32.740 But we also lost it. 54:32.740 --> 54:33.740 Hey, I... 54:33.740 --> 54:35.740 Nobody wants to let us listen to the real truth. 54:35.740 --> 54:36.740 No, of course not. 54:36.740 --> 54:38.740 It's also a bit of fun to hear the real truth. 54:38.740 --> 54:39.740 It's very boring. 54:39.740 --> 54:40.740 It's very boring. 54:40.740 --> 54:43.740 I'm going to make a podcast feed for Zara. 54:43.740 --> 54:45.740 I don't want to be in the daily source code... 54:45.740 --> 54:47.740 ...because all the Americans start to freak out. 54:47.740 --> 54:48.740 They don't get it. 54:48.740 --> 54:49.740 Oh. 54:49.740 --> 54:51.740 So you can only subscribe to this podcast. 54:51.740 --> 54:53.740 So you always receive this. 54:53.740 --> 54:54.740 That's nice. 54:54.740 --> 54:56.740 Yes, for the people who understand Dutch. 54:56.740 --> 54:58.740 Well, that's a lot. 54:58.740 --> 55:00.740 What are they? 55:00.740 --> 55:02.740 And it's not double Dutch. 55:03.740 --> 55:04.740 Okay. 55:04.740 --> 55:05.740 A cup of coffee? 55:05.740 --> 55:06.740 No. 55:06.740 --> 55:07.740 A cup of tea? 55:07.740 --> 55:08.740 A cup of tea. 55:08.740 --> 55:09.740 Okay. 55:09.740 --> 55:10.740 See you next time. 55:10.740 --> 55:11.740 Okay. 55:11.740 --> 55:12.740 Love you. 55:12.740 --> 55:13.740 Love you too. 55:13.750 --> 55:38.740 [ Music ] 55:38.740 --> 55:39.740 Bye.