WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.000 Daily Source Code for May 26, 2005, episode number 185. 00:07.000 --> 00:13.000 Hey everybody, how you doing? 00:13.000 --> 00:18.000 It's the Daily Source Code coming you from LA. 00:18.000 --> 00:20.000 That's right, Los Angeles. 00:20.000 --> 00:21.000 How you doing? 00:21.000 --> 00:25.000 It is, well I'm just, just my volume here. 00:25.000 --> 00:33.000 It is relatively late, 130 as AM been here since around 8 o'clock and got some stuff to talk about. 00:33.000 --> 00:38.000 So I figured trying to blow out a full source code. 00:38.000 --> 00:44.000 I'm still trying to get my levels all set here, hold on a second bear with me while I just set this like that. 00:44.000 --> 00:46.000 Oops. 00:46.000 --> 00:49.000 I'm, uh, there we go, that's better. 00:49.000 --> 00:52.000 I'm on the, uh, under G4 Powerboard. 00:52.000 --> 00:57.000 My, uh, my tablet is with Brian, who stayed in San Francisco. 00:57.000 --> 01:01.000 Brian is also, uh, he does operations for Pod Show. 01:01.000 --> 01:04.000 He's, uh, got some work out there and doing some meetings. 01:04.000 --> 01:07.000 So I don't have cast plaster in my disposal. 01:07.000 --> 01:12.000 Um, but I do have some cool stuff to play for, and some stories to share. 01:12.000 --> 01:22.000 So first of all, I got to let you know that, um, after, you know, the week that we had in San Francisco, 01:22.000 --> 01:31.000 Apollo Alto, um, in the Bay Area essentially, uh, staying in, uh, you know, kind of, more, uh, 01:31.000 --> 01:34.000 mid to low scale hotels. 01:34.000 --> 01:39.000 We splurge and where the Beverly Hills hotel and lovely Beverly Hills, I've never actually, uh, 01:39.000 --> 01:42.000 stayed here ever, ever been here myself. 01:42.000 --> 01:46.000 I don't know if Ron has or not, but, you know, we're treating ourselves, but we think we've deserved it. 01:46.000 --> 01:49.000 We've worked hard. 01:49.000 --> 01:52.000 So it's, uh, so it's really nice. 01:52.000 --> 01:56.000 Had some room service stayed in, um, oh, man. 01:56.000 --> 01:58.000 I've, I've got to do my laundry. 01:58.000 --> 02:04.000 Um, so I have to send stuff to be pressed and some stuff has to be, uh, has to be clean, 02:04.000 --> 02:08.000 because of course I really only packed enough stuff until Wednesday night. 02:08.000 --> 02:11.000 But Patricia even said to me, she said, um, you know, I should probably pack more, 02:11.000 --> 02:13.000 because I know I have a feeling you're going to be staying longer. 02:13.000 --> 02:15.000 You watch, you'll be staying longer. 02:15.000 --> 02:17.000 And, uh, she was right. 02:17.000 --> 02:19.000 Of course, because the wife is always right. 02:19.000 --> 02:20.000 We've discussed that before, haven't we? 02:20.000 --> 02:22.000 We've established that. 02:22.000 --> 02:24.000 Um, anyway, they're doing fine. 02:24.000 --> 02:27.000 I miss them terribly, both Patricia and Christina. 02:27.000 --> 02:32.000 And, uh, yeah, man, we've, uh, I should tell you this, uh, 02:32.000 --> 02:33.000 it's such a long story. 02:33.000 --> 02:37.000 It's so late, but reminding to tell you about a Christina getting hit at school, 02:37.000 --> 02:41.000 uh, on the nose, actually, well, it's such a great story. 02:41.000 --> 02:46.000 Anyway, the Patricia wound up, uh, you know, basically kick in some ass at the school, 02:46.000 --> 02:51.000 and she's, she's like, uh, reminds me of that, uh, of the movie, 02:51.000 --> 02:55.000 of course, of the real-life story of, uh, was it, uh, Joe Brown, 02:55.000 --> 02:59.000 the principal who had the bullhorn and, uh, and the baseball bat, you know, 02:59.000 --> 03:02.000 it's like Patricia all of a sudden did that to the, to the school, 03:02.000 --> 03:05.000 and have fun on the right over now, and she's really, I don't know. 03:05.000 --> 03:07.000 It's just, uh, something beautiful happened there. 03:07.000 --> 03:09.000 And I'm, I'm really, I'm pissed off. 03:09.000 --> 03:11.000 I wasn't there, man, because, you know, together, 03:11.000 --> 03:13.000 we're really good at stuff when we're, we're, we're, 03:13.000 --> 03:16.000 it should happen. So, anyway, parenting stuff will, uh, 03:16.000 --> 03:18.000 uh, Patricia and I should probably do a podcast pretty soon. 03:18.000 --> 03:21.000 We can catch up, uh, and while we're catching up, 03:21.000 --> 03:24.000 which is kind of stuff that, I think is nice and works well. 03:24.000 --> 03:26.000 So, anyway, um, staying out here, 03:26.000 --> 03:28.000 going to stay for a couple of days longer, 03:28.000 --> 03:30.000 through the Memorial Day weekend, 03:30.000 --> 03:32.000 and then going to do one more meeting on Tuesday, 03:32.000 --> 03:35.000 and then I'm going to go fly back, because then it will be, 03:35.000 --> 03:37.000 uh, shoot almost, uh, 03:37.000 --> 03:39.000 or is it 10 days or something like that? 03:39.000 --> 03:41.000 So it's pretty long, but it has been so worth it, 03:41.000 --> 03:45.000 so much cool stuff has happened yet again today. 03:45.000 --> 03:48.000 Um, and we're going to talk about some of that. 03:48.000 --> 03:51.000 Uh, I'm going to try and keep it within, you know, 03:51.000 --> 03:55.000 30, 40 minutes, but I also wanted to play some excellent music. 03:55.000 --> 03:59.000 I saw that, um, I've been following the Michael Jackson trial now. 03:59.000 --> 04:01.000 There's, uh, it just looks like, um, 04:01.000 --> 04:05.000 he was completely being railroaded, and as I predicted, 04:05.000 --> 04:08.000 and I don't think it'll be convicted of anything. 04:08.000 --> 04:11.000 I think that, you know, this is very clear what's going on. 04:11.000 --> 04:13.000 I'm telling you, I have some experience in this. 04:13.000 --> 04:14.000 This should happen, 04:14.000 --> 04:16.000 and spiraled out of control in his case. 04:16.000 --> 04:17.000 It really did. 04:17.000 --> 04:21.000 And the media mainstream media has, you know, 04:21.000 --> 04:23.000 basically even when you say, you know, 04:23.000 --> 04:26.000 wacko jacko, you're editorializing a report, 04:26.000 --> 04:27.000 you know, your news, right? 04:27.000 --> 04:29.000 And it's, uh, we know that's happening, 04:29.000 --> 04:31.000 but that stuff is fucked up, you know, 04:31.000 --> 04:33.000 his name is Michael Jackson. 04:33.000 --> 04:37.000 Anyway, um, so a mashup came across my desk. 04:37.000 --> 04:39.000 P. Doug, PW Fenton has been, uh, 04:39.000 --> 04:41.000 producing the pod show over serious, 04:41.000 --> 04:45.000 and he's just been lining up some fucking awesome shows. 04:45.000 --> 04:47.000 Uh, really, really good stuff. 04:47.000 --> 04:49.000 We've got some great submissions. 04:49.000 --> 04:53.000 Uh, let me just, uh, I have his show notes, 04:53.000 --> 04:55.000 which, of course, show up as my show notes. 04:55.000 --> 04:59.000 And then I pretend like I did all that laborious work on them. 04:59.000 --> 05:01.000 Uh, this is, uh, home on a second. 05:01.000 --> 05:03.000 Uh, you're gonna love this. 05:03.000 --> 05:05.000 That's something, uh, it's a little different. 05:05.000 --> 05:07.000 I'm not in my, my normal studio now, of course, 05:07.000 --> 05:11.000 and I don't have my mixer and my external processing, 05:11.000 --> 05:13.000 and, and I've kind of forgotten how to do it, 05:13.000 --> 05:17.000 but it does, it does still work pretty well. 05:17.000 --> 05:20.000 Um, this is, uh, sent in by DJ May Lune. 05:20.000 --> 05:21.000 I think it is. 05:21.000 --> 05:23.000 It's Eminem versus Michael Jackson, 05:23.000 --> 05:27.000 versus Justin, and it's extremely timely. 05:27.000 --> 05:29.000 It's timely for, uh, what's been going on. 05:29.000 --> 05:31.000 Listen to it. 05:31.000 --> 05:32.000 No. 05:32.000 --> 05:33.000 This is my best. 05:33.000 --> 05:35.000 It's so beautiful tonight. 05:35.000 --> 05:37.000 Your eyes are so lovely. 05:37.000 --> 05:39.000 You're not this sweet. 05:39.000 --> 05:41.000 Never thought I would end up this way. 05:41.000 --> 05:43.000 A lot of people misunderstand me, 05:43.000 --> 05:47.000 but it's because they don't know me at all. 05:47.000 --> 05:49.000 I just want to touch you. 05:49.000 --> 05:50.000 No. 05:50.000 --> 05:51.000 I don't know you. 05:51.000 --> 05:52.000 I don't know you. 05:52.000 --> 05:53.000 I don't know you. 05:53.000 --> 05:55.000 I think everybody's all gelatin-ship, 05:56.250 --> 08:08.750 [ Music ] 08:12.880 --> 08:15.380 Because I'm like the lead singer of the band 08:16.250 --> 09:33.750 [ Music ] 09:35.880 --> 09:36.880 Yeah. 09:36.880 --> 09:37.880 I don't know. It sounds a bit of the first time 09:37.880 --> 09:38.880 Oh no 09:38.880 --> 09:42.680 No, no, but it's a timely mashup, you know, so that's kind of cool. 09:42.680 --> 09:47.280 Daily source code, you know, at the Beverly Hills Hotel, this is a really famous place. 09:47.280 --> 09:50.280 This is where a lot of leading ladies have been discovered. 09:51.080 --> 09:54.680 There's all kinds of Hollywood history that comes from this place. 09:54.680 --> 09:59.280 They've got the bungalows here and yeah, all that Hollywood magic. 09:59.480 --> 10:00.480 All right here. 10:02.480 --> 10:06.080 They actually make a custom hot dog. 10:07.080 --> 10:09.080 16 dollar hot dog. 10:10.080 --> 10:11.080 Okay. 10:12.080 --> 10:20.080 So I had reconnected recently with a good friend Julia Goldberg, who used to run all technology for us at 10:20.080 --> 10:23.080 Think New Ideas, like 600 people in the company. 10:23.080 --> 10:31.080 It was a lot of laptops of crap and if you think, you know, if you think XP is difficult now, you know, think back, you know, like 10:32.080 --> 10:34.080 7, 8, 9, 10 years. 10:34.080 --> 10:36.080 You know, that was sucked, man. 10:36.080 --> 10:37.080 It was Windows. 10:37.080 --> 10:39.080 It was at Windows 98. 10:39.080 --> 10:40.080 Yeah. 10:40.080 --> 10:42.080 Windows 98, I guess. 10:43.080 --> 10:47.080 And T, maybe 3.5 or something like that. 10:49.080 --> 10:52.080 And so she lives in Los Angeles. 10:52.080 --> 10:58.080 And, you know, we had reconnected recently through Steve Leads once again, kind of. 10:58.080 --> 11:00.080 But that's a whole nother story. 11:00.080 --> 11:06.080 And so I said, now I might be coming to LA, so she lives nearby turns out. 11:06.080 --> 11:07.080 So she came over. 11:07.080 --> 11:09.080 And of course, Julia understands me. 11:09.080 --> 11:12.080 She's, you know, we've worked together for a long time. 11:15.080 --> 11:16.080 Exactly. 11:17.080 --> 11:21.080 Julia knows what the hard work and boy needs. 11:21.080 --> 11:23.080 So she's a buddy. 11:23.080 --> 11:26.080 She came over and we just caught up, man, we talked for a long time, actually. 11:26.080 --> 11:30.080 And I had the custom made hot dog and the shrimp cocktail. 11:30.080 --> 11:35.080 And she had tuna salad sandwich. 11:35.080 --> 11:38.080 And it was actually, it was really good. 11:38.080 --> 11:41.080 And then all of a sudden, she kind of comes clean. 11:41.080 --> 11:44.080 And she says, you know, she's been listening to the daily source code for eight months. 11:44.080 --> 11:47.080 And she, I mean, but like every single day, every single day. 11:47.080 --> 11:49.080 She knew every single episode. 11:49.080 --> 11:53.080 And man, she's had a lot of time to think about this stuff. 11:53.080 --> 11:55.080 And she had some really good ideas. 11:55.080 --> 11:58.080 And of course, I immediately told her she had to start a podcast. 11:58.080 --> 12:00.080 So I'm sure she will. 12:00.080 --> 12:02.080 And I'm really looking forward to that. 12:02.080 --> 12:04.080 But it was, it was great to see her. 12:04.080 --> 12:08.080 And even cooler that she brought along nice little gifts for your podcaster here. 12:08.080 --> 12:11.080 And the Beverly Hills hotel feeling so lonely. 12:11.080 --> 12:13.080 By the way, I haven't checked yet. 12:13.080 --> 12:15.080 But I bet you they have porn here. 12:15.080 --> 12:16.080 Hold on a second. 12:16.080 --> 12:18.080 Where's the shoot? 12:18.080 --> 12:19.080 I got it. 12:19.080 --> 12:20.080 And this is old school, man. 12:20.080 --> 12:21.080 Did this use the plug? 12:21.080 --> 12:22.080 Oops. 12:22.080 --> 12:23.080 I hope. 12:23.080 --> 12:24.080 Yeah, there we go. 12:24.080 --> 12:26.080 When I was in the castle. 12:26.080 --> 12:27.080 Okay. 12:27.080 --> 12:28.080 I have a love mic on. 12:28.080 --> 12:29.080 Obviously, let's see. 12:29.080 --> 12:31.080 Many accessing interactive services. 12:31.080 --> 12:34.080 Large net movies. 12:34.080 --> 12:36.080 Select one for movies. 12:36.080 --> 12:37.080 Still in theaters. 12:37.080 --> 12:38.080 Hollywood hits. 12:38.080 --> 12:39.080 Yeah. 12:39.080 --> 12:40.080 Adult desires. 12:40.080 --> 12:41.080 Okay. 12:41.080 --> 12:43.080 Adult's only. 12:43.080 --> 12:46.080 Not for minors who are offended by sexually explicit content. 12:46.080 --> 12:47.080 Extra large. 12:47.080 --> 12:48.080 Cool. 12:48.080 --> 12:49.080 Hmm. 12:49.080 --> 12:50.080 Okay. 12:50.080 --> 12:51.080 Anyway. 12:51.080 --> 12:53.080 I have some other exciting stuff to talk about. 12:53.080 --> 12:54.080 So we can. 12:54.080 --> 12:55.080 Shit. 12:55.080 --> 12:56.080 Sorry. 12:56.080 --> 12:57.080 Okay. 12:57.080 --> 12:58.080 Apple today. 12:58.080 --> 12:59.080 Yeah. 12:59.080 --> 13:00.080 Went to Cupertino. 13:00.080 --> 13:01.080 Oops. 13:01.080 --> 13:02.080 Sorry. 13:02.080 --> 13:04.080 I'm over modulating a little bit. 13:04.080 --> 13:06.080 Went to Cupertino. 13:06.080 --> 13:12.080 And met with the team that, well, I guess actually this is the iTunes team. 13:12.080 --> 13:14.080 And iTunes music store team. 13:15.080 --> 13:19.080 And there was an one developer there. 13:19.080 --> 13:21.080 All really nice people. 13:21.080 --> 13:26.080 And I think Amazon's actually done all of the podcasting coding. 13:26.080 --> 13:28.080 And it was amazing. 13:28.080 --> 13:33.080 Now obviously we made an agreement that I just wouldn't talk about, you know, what's in there. 13:33.080 --> 13:35.080 I certainly could tell you about how the meeting went. 13:35.080 --> 13:36.080 But. 13:36.080 --> 13:37.080 And we're working. 13:37.080 --> 13:40.080 Apple is not a company as you know that releases information early. 13:40.080 --> 13:41.080 And they didn't make me sign anything. 13:41.080 --> 13:42.080 No NDA. 13:42.080 --> 13:45.080 You know, it's just a gentleman's agreement. 13:45.080 --> 13:48.080 And I'm honoring that. 13:48.080 --> 13:52.080 But we are talking about, you know, when we can release this news. 13:52.080 --> 13:54.080 And they're admitting this is new for them. 13:54.080 --> 13:55.080 You know, they never release it. 13:55.080 --> 13:58.080 You know, any kind of news before the big unveiling of the product. 13:58.080 --> 14:00.080 But this, this. 14:00.080 --> 14:03.080 Um, community is new to them. 14:03.080 --> 14:06.080 This, this type of content is new to them. 14:06.080 --> 14:09.080 And they really want to step in in the right way. 14:09.080 --> 14:11.080 And they really want to help. 14:11.080 --> 14:14.080 But I know it sounds unbelievable, right? 14:14.080 --> 14:20.080 But, um, not all big companies, you know, do things for the reasons you think they do them. 14:20.080 --> 14:25.080 Um, and I can certainly tell you why Apple is so incredibly interested in podcasts. 14:25.080 --> 14:28.080 And that's because, well, for one, they sell iPods. 14:28.080 --> 14:29.080 And that's great. 14:29.080 --> 14:35.080 And so they want to facilitate that and do that as an open, as open fashion as possible. 14:35.080 --> 14:39.080 So, um, and we really had no agenda for this meeting. 14:39.080 --> 14:41.080 But at least we didn't agree on one. 14:41.080 --> 14:43.080 Just, hey, let's continue our conversation. 14:43.080 --> 14:48.080 So we went back and we sat down with this, you know, like five people. 14:48.080 --> 14:54.080 And, um, it turns out that they, uh, wanted to show me all the features, all the functionality. 14:54.080 --> 14:59.080 Uh, all the ideas, you know, what, what's going to happen where, what you're going to see. 14:59.080 --> 15:04.080 And if, uh, if I agreed with what they were doing, if, uh, if they thought if I thought it was a good idea, 15:04.080 --> 15:08.080 what was there anything missing, um, uh, I think was unbelievable. 15:08.080 --> 15:12.080 It was, this was, uh, it's going to sound crazy. 15:12.080 --> 15:15.080 But this was users and developers partying together. 15:15.080 --> 15:21.080 And I realized that this meeting, that that doesn't just mean that it has to be, you know, 15:21.080 --> 15:27.080 independent users, uh, with independent developers independent of the platform vendor, I guess. 15:27.080 --> 15:32.080 So we're trying to say that, uh, a good platform vendor, of course, will party with their users. 15:32.080 --> 15:38.080 And here it was, it was actually happening, um, with this whole iPodter, I, 15:38.080 --> 15:42.080 iPodter started out of frustration that this wasn't possible with iTunes. 15:42.080 --> 15:48.080 And it was basically a way to make iTunes perform an action, which carried through to the iPod. 15:48.080 --> 15:55.080 And of course, that branched out with, with, you know, with incredible work from so many cool developers, um, 15:56.080 --> 15:58.080 which kind of developed version one. 15:58.080 --> 16:04.080 And, um, what, what Apple has been doing has been, they've been listening, they've been watching, 16:04.080 --> 16:07.080 they've been observing, they've been paying close attention. 16:07.080 --> 16:11.080 Um, this, of course, they've been doing, I guess, relatively silently. 16:11.080 --> 16:14.080 I had no one to say, hey, I'm, I'm from Apple, and I'm doing this. 16:14.080 --> 16:15.080 Well, actually, that's not true. 16:15.080 --> 16:22.080 The dot Mac people have certainly, um, you know, been working with us and working through their own issues, 16:22.080 --> 16:28.080 uh, and, and helping out, you know, they've been providing bandwidth and not shutting people off who've had high flow, 16:28.080 --> 16:34.080 and they've been doing that purposely, um, because they just wanted it to, to go, you know, 16:34.080 --> 16:37.080 of course, we're going to have to all figure some stuff out. 16:37.080 --> 16:45.080 And, uh, you know, there's lots of, lots of stuff to be looked at, but as it comes to, um, 16:45.080 --> 16:50.080 iTunes as a, uh, a pod catcher, an iPodter? 16:50.080 --> 16:54.080 Yeah, they got it fucking right, totally. 16:54.080 --> 16:59.080 Um, and then doing some, some other stuff that, um, it's just going to be great. 16:59.080 --> 17:05.080 So, uh, it was fantastic, you know, to have this thought and, and there it was, 17:05.080 --> 17:10.080 a company and actually listened and created it and, and just done just an amazing job. 17:10.080 --> 17:15.080 And I know it's, this, of course, sounds like I've been either hypnotized or, uh, 17:15.080 --> 17:19.080 assimilated by the board, but, uh, what if it actually was true? 17:19.080 --> 17:23.080 What if it really is all the things that we've been talking about? 17:23.080 --> 17:30.080 Um, and, but, but still in the, um, you know, as open as we, as all of our tools are, 17:30.080 --> 17:32.080 what if it was really true? 17:32.080 --> 17:36.080 Um, I can't, you know, and I'm, I'm always looking for the bullshit. 17:36.080 --> 17:40.080 The bullshit detectors on, on high alert, um, I can't see it. 17:40.080 --> 17:43.080 So anyway, um, I've, as you know, I've requested, you know, 17:43.080 --> 17:48.080 when I'd like to start talking about this, um, and I think that's a good thing. 17:48.080 --> 17:53.080 And, uh, wouldn't it be interesting if, uh, if Apple, you know, 17:53.080 --> 17:57.080 let us open up that dialogue and started, uh, getting some word out. 17:57.080 --> 17:59.080 So anyway, so that was just fantastic. 17:59.080 --> 18:00.080 It just blew my mind. 18:00.080 --> 18:03.080 It really blew my mind, uh, to be there. 18:03.080 --> 18:08.080 Very interesting people, um, and I see nothing but benefit all around totally. 18:09.080 --> 18:13.080 Uh, okay, uh, but we'll, uh, back to some tunes. 18:13.080 --> 18:14.080 What are we at now? 18:14.080 --> 18:16.080 18 minutes. Oh, cool. That's not it. That's not that bad. 18:16.080 --> 18:19.080 I thought it was going to take longer to get through all that. 18:19.080 --> 18:23.080 Um, what should I do? I've got, oh, um, Mad Weinstein was, uh, 18:23.080 --> 18:25.080 was going to Manhattan this week. 18:25.080 --> 18:29.080 And, uh, she'd emailed me about that and I said, well, would you like to go and 18:29.080 --> 18:33.080 check out the serious satellite radio studios where podshow, uh, 18:33.080 --> 18:36.080 broadcasts on and go see for yourself. 18:37.080 --> 18:39.080 This is amazing. What's going on over there. 18:39.080 --> 18:43.080 And, and there are actually some people who are doing some really creative stuff. 18:43.080 --> 18:48.080 And, you know, yeah, their infrastructure is different, uh, way different from ours. 18:48.080 --> 18:53.080 Uh, but, uh, you know, people who are doing, uh, exciting new stuff and people 18:53.080 --> 18:56.080 who are doing more traditional stuff. You know, it's all there. 18:56.080 --> 19:00.080 Uh, and there's some really wacked out people. That's interesting. 19:00.080 --> 19:03.080 Um, and what's cool is Steve Leads, who has been on this show, uh, 19:04.080 --> 19:09.080 and been mentioned on this show, uh, he, uh, he does a lot of stuff over there at, uh, 19:09.080 --> 19:14.080 it's serious satellite. Um, and he kind of did a sound seeing 19:14.080 --> 19:17.080 tour together with Madge. And I just want to give you, I mean, 19:17.080 --> 19:20.080 it's what it's like 35 minutes. This is part one. 19:20.080 --> 19:23.080 And it's, it's interesting to listen to, but there's also some, you know, 19:23.080 --> 19:27.080 some typical Madge bands. And here's a Madge is being introduced to someone. 19:27.080 --> 19:30.080 And she's going from studio to studio meeting of these different people 19:30.080 --> 19:35.080 making different shows in different formats and different ways of, of creating them. 19:35.080 --> 19:38.080 Um, and here's an example of what that sounded like. 19:38.080 --> 19:41.080 I think it'll come in here for a few hours and then that's it. 19:41.080 --> 19:43.080 I mean, I imagine they can't spend a whole day like that. 19:43.080 --> 19:45.080 So, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 19:45.080 --> 19:50.080 If you had to four hour shift and theory, you should be able to do it in about 45 minutes. 19:50.080 --> 19:54.080 Nice. This is Rich and that's Jose. 19:54.080 --> 19:55.080 This is, this is Madge. 19:55.080 --> 19:57.080 Alright, one's team. Madge is going to have fun. 19:57.080 --> 19:58.080 Oh, cool. 19:58.080 --> 20:02.080 We're on the, hey, Jose program is the hard rock style. 20:02.080 --> 20:03.080 Oh, cool. 20:03.080 --> 20:08.080 To represent Madge and rock and the, I'm going to set out which is sort of a college piece. 20:08.080 --> 20:09.080 Okay. 20:09.080 --> 20:10.080 Yeah, welcome. 20:10.080 --> 20:11.080 Thank you. 20:11.080 --> 20:12.080 But you play on your, what are you going to be for? 20:12.080 --> 20:18.080 Well, I mostly, um, I do, uh, talk and we do a left wing sort of, um, I call, 20:18.080 --> 20:20.080 people like, uh, amculture accounts. 20:20.080 --> 20:21.080 Oh, they're nice. 20:21.080 --> 20:24.080 I say really nasty sounds about assholes. 20:25.080 --> 20:28.080 Yeah, I'm with, um, Adam Curry's channel. 20:28.080 --> 20:30.080 I love to be helping him out. 20:30.080 --> 20:31.080 Excellent. 20:31.080 --> 20:32.080 Programming that. 20:32.080 --> 20:33.080 So it's a podcast. 20:33.080 --> 20:34.080 We're on a podcast. 20:34.080 --> 20:35.080 Oh, right on. 20:35.080 --> 20:36.080 Yeah. 20:36.080 --> 20:37.080 Right down. 20:37.080 --> 20:38.080 So we're going to take you to the recording right now. 20:38.080 --> 20:39.080 Yeah. 20:39.080 --> 20:40.080 Yeah. 20:40.080 --> 20:42.080 It's like done the radio for the first time. 20:42.080 --> 20:43.080 Yeah. 20:43.080 --> 20:44.080 So I'm on the radio. 20:44.080 --> 20:45.080 I'm on the podcast. 20:45.080 --> 20:47.080 But your name. 20:47.080 --> 20:48.080 No, that's great. 20:48.080 --> 20:50.080 No, man. 20:50.080 --> 20:51.080 Who? 20:51.080 --> 20:52.080 She's. 20:52.080 --> 20:54.080 She's got this tool, her son. 20:54.080 --> 20:55.080 Oh. 20:55.080 --> 20:56.080 Did it be cut in by her? 20:56.080 --> 20:57.080 Yeah, this is a great story. 20:59.080 --> 21:01.080 You got to listen to this guy. 21:01.080 --> 21:02.080 You get the music. 21:02.080 --> 21:03.080 Like this is a neat invest of. 21:03.080 --> 21:04.080 Like a satinist. 21:06.080 --> 21:07.080 Ah, uh, wow. 21:07.080 --> 21:08.080 It was pretty fucked up. 21:08.080 --> 21:09.080 What is cool. 21:10.080 --> 21:13.080 Yeah, I don't know if this is to do it with your students. 21:13.080 --> 21:16.080 And then you've confirmed the program. 21:16.080 --> 21:19.080 I kind of knew Satan would be so high in the sky like this. 21:19.080 --> 21:21.080 But I try to keep it even now. 21:21.080 --> 21:23.080 I mean, it's true. 21:23.080 --> 21:24.080 But we've got it. 21:24.080 --> 21:25.080 It's Satan. 21:25.080 --> 21:26.080 I try to keep it. 21:26.080 --> 21:27.080 If that player sits down and he's back, 21:27.080 --> 21:28.080 I got to take her shit back. 21:28.080 --> 21:29.080 Right next to her. 21:29.080 --> 21:30.080 No kidding. 21:30.080 --> 21:31.080 So it's like a meal. 21:31.080 --> 21:32.080 It's pretty cool. 21:32.080 --> 21:33.080 That way I keep balance. 21:33.080 --> 21:34.080 And the guy laid his things. 21:34.080 --> 21:35.080 That's interesting. 21:35.080 --> 21:37.080 But you get the devil's promises. 21:37.080 --> 21:38.080 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 21:38.080 --> 21:40.080 But I definitely appreciate what he's got. 21:40.080 --> 21:42.080 So you've done a lot of drugs. 21:42.080 --> 21:44.080 Yeah, too. 21:44.080 --> 21:46.080 I don't know. 21:46.080 --> 21:47.080 Oh, man. 21:47.080 --> 21:48.080 That kind of works as serious. 21:48.080 --> 21:50.080 He should be working with us. 21:50.080 --> 21:52.080 He should be doing a podcast. 21:52.080 --> 21:54.080 That's very interesting. 21:54.080 --> 21:55.080 Okay. 21:55.080 --> 21:57.080 Podsafe Music. 21:57.080 --> 22:01.080 This one is a good friend of PW Fenton. 22:01.080 --> 22:02.080 Oh, fuck. 22:02.080 --> 22:03.080 Excuse me. 22:03.080 --> 22:05.080 I'm uploading some tracks to his server. 22:05.080 --> 22:07.080 And it's like crapping out. 22:07.080 --> 22:08.080 I hate that. 22:08.080 --> 22:09.080 Hold on. 22:09.080 --> 22:11.080 Shoot. 22:11.080 --> 22:12.080 Oh, man. 22:12.080 --> 22:13.080 See, it's great. 22:13.080 --> 22:14.080 You can do everything from the road. 22:14.080 --> 22:16.080 But the internet connection. 22:16.080 --> 22:19.080 Sometimes are just not really that good. 22:19.080 --> 22:20.080 Okay. 22:20.080 --> 22:21.080 Fenton PWbs. 22:21.080 --> 22:23.080 This is the New York Blues Queen. 22:23.080 --> 22:25.080 This is Podsafe Music from Roxie Perry. 22:25.080 --> 22:28.080 It's from a new CD. 22:28.080 --> 22:30.080 Back in Losville. 22:30.080 --> 22:41.080 And of course, I'll put links to Roxie Perry and the show notes on today's source code. 22:43.750 --> 25:03.750 [ Music ] 25:05.080 --> 25:08.080 They'll have blessings. 25:08.080 --> 25:11.080 I told you that. 25:11.250 --> 25:36.080 [ Music ] 25:36.080 --> 25:38.080 Yeah. 25:38.080 --> 25:40.080 Roxie Perry. 25:40.080 --> 25:43.080 Back in blue is there. 25:43.080 --> 25:52.080 There was actually this song that motivated me to do a source code at this kind of day. 25:52.080 --> 25:54.080 Did I just say night of day? 25:54.080 --> 25:55.080 That was stupid. 25:55.080 --> 25:57.080 Time of day. 25:57.080 --> 26:02.080 Oh man, that sounds great. 26:02.080 --> 26:06.080 And hopefully we'll speak again on Friday. 26:06.080 --> 26:08.080 We don't have a great Memorial Day weekend. 26:08.080 --> 26:12.080 Somewhere I'll put something out there. 26:12.080 --> 26:16.080 So good things happen in my friends. 26:16.080 --> 26:18.080 Really positive. 26:18.080 --> 26:22.080 Like it. 26:22.080 --> 26:25.080 And we flew first class in American Airlines. 26:25.080 --> 26:28.080 Just a spite America rest. 26:28.080 --> 26:37.080 You're not everybody take care. 26:41.250 --> 27:31.250 [ Music ] 27:37.080 --> 27:57.080 Thank you for watching.