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Adam Curry, web pioneer of
Gumpshite, you decide.

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16 million dollars worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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In the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't need no sticky
ingredients in it.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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I'm guessing it's Adam Curry.

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And it's the daily source code
for July 8, 2005.

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I'm living for a little bit.

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I didn't expect to hang you so
early in the program.

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I'm just rebooted as well.

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Everybody how you doing is the
Friday edition of your daily
source code.

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Coming to you from Curry Cottage
and Gilford, the United Kingdom.

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Up 30-40 minutes of meaningless
nonsense.

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I do have a lot to talk about
today.

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In fact, I wrote down a list so
I wouldn't get confused.

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Also, I reached into the old
firewire drive and pulled out an
old pod save tune

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that I hadn't played in a while,
but just listening to the stuff.

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Have a piece of audio from when
I was 16 years old.

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One of my first radio shows.

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We talked about it so much on
the show I figured.

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And I'll actually tell you where
you can subscribe to a feed of
my old radio shows,

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which is frightening at least.

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So it is July 8, it is one day
after the multiple terrorist
attacks in London.

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And I am so incredibly impressed
by the Brits.

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Man, the word I guess everyone
using is vigilance.

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Very vigilance.

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Which means they are aware, they
are paying attention,

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but they are also getting about
with their business.

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Just getting on and we will not
be knocked down.

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And just very wonderful to see.

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I'll talk a little bit more
about that on today's show.

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Also, this is a mashup.

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It is a little wacky.

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And you have to kind of get used
to it at first,

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but I think it is 40 intros
mixed into one.

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It is by Osmiso.

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It is called intros inspection.

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See if you can count all the
intros and recognize every
single one of them.

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[ Music ]

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She must be great, you're great,
you're great, you're great.

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[ Music ]

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The pain is not right in the
face

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The pain is not right in the
face

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[ Music ]

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This is the end.

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I've told you it was kind of
wacky, kind of weird.

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I liked it though.

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It was probably the only mashup
I've ever played on the source
code that actually fits into

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some kind of fair use with the
short little segments.

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Very cool.

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Very different.

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That's for sure.

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And the rhythm kind of changed
along the way, but it was nice.

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I actually reminded me of some
of the work Patricia's done in
the past.

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I should play one of those, one
of her medlies.

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She's done a lot of cool ones.

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Okay.

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A little bit of complaining of
first upfront.

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I really messed up my shoulder.

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And since I've been complaining
to Patricia, I was complaining
to you a little bit.

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It's stupid, but somehow I've
managed to aggravate a tendon in
my shoulder.

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And it's actually pinching off
nerves that run down to my arm
and into my fingers.

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And so I'm actually in a sling
and I'm kind of part of part of
the part-way in the sling today

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to be able to man the buttons to
hear my other Mac go in the
background there.

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And it's on overdrive.

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It's nice the day.

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It's about 23, 24 degrees
centigrade.

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It's been good.

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And of course what still
dominates the news is the
terrorist attacks yesterday in
London.

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And people were asked if you
didn't have to drive into
London, please don't.

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If you could stay at home,
please stay at home.

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Now we had a trip planned for
the city tomorrow Saturday.

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And we wanted to go see the
crown jewels at the tower and
want to walk around, want to go
on the London Eye.

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And so what we're going to do is
we're going to wait.

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And if the word is, you know,
please stay home.

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Then we'll stay home.

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If the word is open for
business, we're definitely
going.

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And really, that's the general
vibe here is, you know, this was
a cowardly attack.

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And we're not going to let it
bring us down.

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We're going to try it in the
forties with the Blitz Creek.

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They went through it in the 80s
and the 90s with the IRA.

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And, you know, it's tough, tough
cookies here.

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Let me tell you, New York, a
former New York mayor, Rudy
Giuliani was in London.

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I guess by coincidence, maybe
for the G8 that he was in the
neighborhood.

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And he said that the way the
Londoner's responded was very
admirable.

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And I believe that completely,
it's just amazing how,

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how the press is taking this.

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And also, something of nowhere
to be.

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I think the BBC does not, I'm
sure they have really horrible
footage.

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But they just don't show it.

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They do have doctors on talking
about, you know, all the
horrible things that happened to
people,

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victims of a bomb blast
literally talking about
dismemberment.

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But they don't show it.

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And that, I think, deafening.

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And they also, they don't, they
haven't been overhyping this the
way.

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The, um, that has probably been
done in the States to haven't
seen any of the footage,

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but some people have told me
that already the graphics are
swirling.

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And, you know, the war on terror
took them to the drums come in.

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And this was handled very
professionally like, like any,

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a humongous news event.

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But with the, with a certain
amount of dignity in class that
is definitely to be commended.

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A little disappointing, I have
to say, is, um,

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I think that lots of people
have, um,

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phone cams, because they were
showing a lot of that footage
on, uh, on TV on the BBC,

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Sky News, ITV, they were
showing, uh, video footage that
were showing camera pictures.

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But I just didn't see a heck of
a lot show up on web logs.

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It seems like there's some
disconnect between these mobile
phones.

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And, uh, and, uh, however, you
know, wherever the pictures go,

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I know that people, uh, keep
them on the phone a lot and
trade them out through Bluetooth
and,

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and other means and picture
messaging is pretty big here in
the UK.

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But it seems like they're still
disconnect with getting them
onto the web,

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but it seems like there's a lot
of links in some form structured
like a web log where we can
really find it.

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So stuff to work on, uh, as we
continue to take back the media
into our own hands.

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Oh, yes. And, oh, yeah, this was
amazing.

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Um, I couldn't believe it,
although I did see a report, um,
on the BBC News website,

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which I'll put a link to it in
the, in the show notes for
today's podcast,

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that apparently some hotels
doubled the price of a room, uh,
Thursday night last night.

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Which is called price gouging.
In the States, if you do that,
if you're a price gouging,

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man, you get, you get tired and
feathered and driven out of
town.

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I mean, that is just, you know,
unacceptable in, in US culture.

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And I can't believe that, that
hotels would do that.

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Now, I'll, I'll say upfront that
this was the BBC reporting
apparently on, um,

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last minute.com, uh, who had
warned its members that hotel
prices were doubling.

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Um, but there's not a mention of
a single hotel, uh, which, you
know,

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and then I always got to wonder,
okay, how come, you know, you,
you don't just tell us which
hotels

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were doing that so that we
could, you know, take a consumer
action.

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Um, I can only assume because
it's unconfirmed.

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And, uh, the same goes for the
al Qaeda group that has claimed
responsibility.

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I think it's secrets of the
underground al Qaeda or
something like that.

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And, you know, apparently
there's this website that had,
um,

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a statement on it claiming, uh,
the terrorist bombings.

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But they never linked to it from
any of these stories.

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I mean, what is that all about?

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And then I go to Google and I
type in the exact name of that
group.

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And, you know, there's no
website that pops up, you know,
that, that is connected to that.

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So, like, uh, some of that
stuff, uh, you just, you just
got a wonder.

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That's all.

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So anyway, I'm sure that, uh,
we'll get to the bottom of this.

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And, uh, you know, the, uh, the
United Kingdom and London in
particular is so wired.

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There's so many, what they call
CCTV cameras.

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So close caption, I guess.

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Or, yeah, close caption.

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How does it make sense?

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Close circuit.

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Sorry, close circuit
televisions.

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Stores have them.

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Every street corner has them.

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So I think they can probably
follow, for instance, for the
two,

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it'll be a little more
difficult, I'm afraid.

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But for the, um, for the bus
that was blowing up,

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they can probably follow the
entire route and see who got on
and, uh,

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and what they were carrying and,
you know, it's, uh, and it's
pretty high quality stuff.

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And they use it all the time and
they really do.

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It is very, very effective.

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So, let's get them.

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Let's hope we can get them.

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Okay.

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What are we at now?

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We're at, uh, 16 minutes.

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Okay, we're right on track.

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Let me tell you something cool
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I've been receiving a lot of
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about the feeds that they use

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about being listed in the
directory.

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First of all, the directory,
they're doing that themselves.

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They populated it with the
iPod.org directory.

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It's tough.

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It's tough doing a directory.

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And so I'm trying to see if we
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Marcus, by the way, has now
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Hopefully we'll be able to get a
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It's just been so overloaded
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Let's see where it was.

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It's a lot easier to maintain it
that way through a distributed
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Because that's what you need
when you want.

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We need to do a big directory.

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That makes a lot of sense.

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And then let's put an OPML
output of the iTunes directory
somewhere on the back end.

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So that can be used for yet more
directories.

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It makes a total sense.

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So working on that.

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But a lot of people are want to
have an iTunes compatible feed.

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And if you go to Podcast Ellie
and you're registered there, you
have your podcast registered

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but just thought every single
one of them is, then you
automatically get an iTunes
feed,

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which you can submit into iTunes
if you're not listed already.

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And right now it's just a
podcast Ellie slash and some
kind of URL.

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What we're working on is the
ability for you to map a domain
name to that feed.

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So you could actually have it be
whatever.yourpodcast.com or
RSS.yourpodcast.com,

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something like that.

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And then you would be able to,
if you wanted to, you could move
away, which, you know,

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basically mitigates, that's the
right word mitigates lock in.

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So it just takes, get it to get
rid of it.

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So we're working on that.

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We're just working as fast as we
can.

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Basically.

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So that is something that's
really easy.

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If you want to have an iTunes
compatible feed podcast.

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Sally provides them.

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Just make sure you're listed in
their database.

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Something I wanted to say, I
wanted to ask if there were any
comedians who are out there

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who are interested in doing
stuff with audio and with
podcasting if, you know,

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if you're funny.

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And I'm thinking maybe Ron and I
on my next trip out west will go
to a comedy club

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and we'll approach some of the
comedians that, you know, if
they're any good, hopefully.

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But if you, if you, or you know
someone who's comedian,

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send me an MP3 with some of your
stuff, we've got some ideas that
might be very cool

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if you're interested in doing
some stuff.

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And I get a lot of comments
from, well, podcast Paul has
mentioned it to me before.

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And he feels that the source
code definitely doesn't pay
enough attention to podcasts
from the UK.

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So I was scouting around today
looking actually for, you know,
any type of podcast from
yesterday

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if anything was was up and about
and I hadn't found any.

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But I did find something very
interesting from James Gardner,

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but the person who creates the,
I think it's the wake up
internet podcast.

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And I wanted to share just a
little bit of that podcast with
you.

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Nice little sound imaging.

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There you go.

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Adam Curry, web pioneer.

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Oh, don't shout.

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You decide.

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Hold on.

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Hey, baby.

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What's that?

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Oh, thank you.

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William Curry, Sam.

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Yeah.

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Nice.

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I think that I can't eat.

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Oh, look at what.

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I want to give my right arm to
you.

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Well, you can add my left ones.

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Fucked up enough.

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All right.

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Thanks, baby.

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Okay.

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I should actually restart that.

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Hold on a second because I was
so funny.

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Hey, listen to what he calls me.

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Wake up internet.lux.com.

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Adam Curry, web pioneer.

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Oh, gobsite.

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Okay, gobsite.

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I looked it up.

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A person regarded as mean or
contemptible.

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A gobsite.

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You decide.

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I rediscovered Adam Curry this
week.

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I see rediscovered because I'd
become aware of him where back
in the middle of last year

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when the BBC first brought the
concept of podcasting to my
attention.

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Having just listened to him for
half an hour on the topics of
ranging from podcasting

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to him getting his pilot's
license and his never minded ill
informed opinions on the live it

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concert.

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I'm firmly of the opinion he is
irrelevant and will remain so
until he stops podcasting about
podcasting

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and how its very future depends
on him and starts actually
telling us something worth
knowing.

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The pioneer of podcasting he may
come to be recognized as.

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Even lorded over us as in the
future.

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He's simply not deserved in the
light of the web nostalgia for
what was hit last week.

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He seems to have the whole of
the west coast of America
convinced is actually important,
even viral.

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So I hear by predict within the
next year to a year and a half
he'll be as relevant to
podcasting

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as Bill Gates is to open source
software development.

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This guy's great.

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Okay, I have some comments about
this but I wait until the end.

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This is good.

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The analogy being that while it
was windows and Microsoft which
dragged the price of the humble

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scene down to realistic levels
in the mid to late 1990s, it was
this very increase in
availability

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which made the impons for an
alternative to the windows
operating system all the more
pressing.

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Similarly, Adam Curry inspires
the DJ or in Osol to sit in a
dark and room when a bright
sunny day

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talking to ourselves and
pretending like a bunch of seven
year olds playing the radio DJ
game.

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But someone is actually
listening and if they are
listening they actually care
what we're talking about.

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Okay, now this is the part where
you're going off track.

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So I'm going to let you finish
up your statement here but
you're wrong about a couple
things.

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Not because it's important or
vital that podcasting succeeds
and our involvement is key to
it,

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but because the net nerd in Osol
feeds on failing like we
understand new possibilities.

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The possibilities thrown up by
the latest trend in information
delivery systems.

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Just as everybody once led claim
to having the most popular
channel on down that,

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who only days after founding it
realized it's sucked to use the
command prompt interface.

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So all the majority of startup
podcasters will drift back into
obscurity.

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Just as everyone who ever shared
a file on Napster spend those
nail biting weeks,

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waiting for Lars Ulrich to come
knocking on their door,
demanding his royalty check.

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So all will the podcasts about
how cool it is to be young,
white, middle-class student of
computers,

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in the bare area, realize the
banality of their life and move
on to the next big thing that
further serves

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to reinforce their faith in all
its narrow and thoughtless.

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Okay, all right James, so
here's, you know, and I hear
this a lot,

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or people say, well, you know,
it's just like web logs and it's
all crap.

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Well, first of all, it's not.

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But there's a distinct
difference here between what
happened with web logs and what
happened with podcasting.

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What happened with web logs, it
wasn't an inherent desire to
publish.

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People wanted to have a voice to
have a way to get their message
out.

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And podcasting, it was the
reverse.

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People are dissatisfied with
what they were hearing and they
were demanding to hear something
different.

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It's not like with publishing of
text and pictures and print and
magazines where the supply is
just endless.

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There was a very limited scope
of receptions to be made.

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There's limited the number of
channels, even though it seems
like there's a lot,

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but also the centralized
infrastructure does not allow
for all these channels to be of,
you know,

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to have original programming,
first run programming,

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which is why reality television
has, has caught on so, so big
because it's very efficient to
make.

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That's what television producers
and television broadcasters love
about it.

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And people watch it.

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They, I don't know, I didn't
want to say they like it, but
they do watch it.

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So it's a listener demand driven
medium podcasting is.

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And it's, you know, not that
we're all looking for the next
top 40 radio station or show.

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We're looking for something
fresh, something new, and we're
rediscovering all this.

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The web tried to go from text
and pictures to video.

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And it kind of bypassed audio.

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Yeah, we had a little touching
go there because audio was
music.

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No, audio is so much more stuff
that we, oh man, we have
forgotten more than we have to
learn.

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I'm telling you.

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So we're just going to slowly
get back into it.

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And it's going to be very, very
cool.

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Oh, let me plug something here.

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If you're interested in making a
podcast, go to castblaster.com.

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That's what we have.

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The beta version of our podcast
creation software is there.

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It's windows only at this point
in time.

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Lots of people asking for a Mac
version.

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It always takes longer because
the focus is on the window stuff
right now.

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But, you know, we've talked
about this before.

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I'm a Mac guy, so I'd love to
have it on a Mac.

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So that, you know, that is
definite directive.

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I think you can create a 10
minute podcast with the beta
version.

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And you'll be able to do that
forever with the beta.

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Even when it goes 1.0.

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And all you have to get from
there on is hosting.

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And that too hopefully will
change in the very near future
with more pod show offerings.

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Let me just see what else I had.

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I mean, it's such a shell shock
isn't the right word.

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But I'm in a very, you know,
kind of a mellowish mood because
it's just so weird over here
right now.

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You know, you can't really be
happy.

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You can't, you don't want to be
too upbeat because it just
doesn't feel appropriate right
now.

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This stuff has been shocking.

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It really has.

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Okay.

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Let me see.

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People, what do I want to say?

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Oh, yeah, Michael Butler has a
new.

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That's the rock and roll geek.

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Michael Butler has a new
podcast.

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You can find it is rock and roll
geek show rock and roll geek
show dot com.

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But now he has the indie cast,
which is all pod safe music.

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It's a rock and roll geek dot
org.

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And I was listening to it.

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And that was rocking.

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It was really, it was really,
really good.

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So you want to give that a
check.

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And Michael's also been doing
lots of interviews with.

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So pretty big name.

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Yeah.

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Christina, I'm flat on from
Divinals.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah.

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I love this three part series
with Kenny Laguna, who's
president of black heart records
and

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Joan Jets manager.

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And he played in Tommy James in
the Shondales.

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He had a lot of really cool rock
and roll stories to talk about.

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And it was great.

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I had to cut up a three part to
us all along.

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And there's a guy in Australia
named Tom Schooting, who, I
guess he used to live in the
Netherlands.

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It sounds like a Dutch name.

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So I'm just going to presume
that.

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But he lives in Australia.

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And he was a, he's a big fan of
a radio show I used to do in the
early 80s.

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I'm talking 81, 82, called Curry
and Funinkle, which I did with a
partner.

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You're doing Funinkle.

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And he had to tape the whole
bunch of these shows.

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And when podcast came along, he
started putting up feeds of this
show as a podcast.

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And I did what I think, and in
hindsight, I think it's a
really, really good idea is

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when we move from the castle, I
was getting rid of all the all
our stuff.

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You know, just trying to get rid
of masses amounts of stuff.

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I had a huge cardboard box
filled with cassette tapes,
cassette tapes from my work at

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Radio Veronica with Curry and
Veninkle.

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Apparently also some of my early
stuff on the pirate radio
station.

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And I told you that I worked for
radio decibel in Amsterdam.

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And I was, I think, either 16 or
17, probably 16 years old at the
time.

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Yeah, I think I just was old
enough to ride a motorbike.

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And I called myself John Holden
because it was a legal station.

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So you couldn't use your real
name.

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You had to have like a DJ name.

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Because, you know, they would
eventually find you or find us
and confiscate the transmitters.

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And just, I was kind of the
on-vogue at the time.

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You use an alias.

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And so I pretended I was 24.

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That was my whole stick.

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And if you listen to the voice,
it's like, no way.

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Didn't couldn't even pull off,
you know, 19.

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So just, just hear a little bit
of it.

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And I'll tell you what I thought
I was going to listen to more of
this tape.

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Anyway, this came from the
podcast.

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And I'll put a link to that in
the show notes, of course.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Bring it down.

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Yeah.

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Hey.

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25 minutes passed noveenth
o'clock and we will begin.

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Giving away let's see four or
five free albums.

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And as my photography giving
away one right now.

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So collar number five on one
eight four one six eight.

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You will win the new dire
streets double album, I believe.

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Yeah, you hear that sweeper
there?

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I'm six, two, and stand there.

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We spun down my boys to make it
sound really low.

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So, you know, like the song
you're hearing now,

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they're a whole, but I just
listened to this whole hour-long
podcast,

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which of course, you know,
wasn't just a podcast,

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but it was actually, you know, a
full couple hours of radio show.

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And the music we were playing at
the time,

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that was really the whole reason
that it existed,

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is because we were into that
type of music

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and it wasn't being played on
the radio.

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So, I, you know, kind of doing
automatic analogy

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to our pod-safe music,

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and I went back into the bin and
pulled out Buffy girl.

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That's just too.

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Hope you like it.

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You're so right, it doesn't make
sense.

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[ Music ]

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Buffy Girl, everywhere I go.

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It's Pod Safe.

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You heard it here on the Daily
Source Code.

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Link to Buffy Girl's website can
be found on the show notes for
today's Daily Source Code

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for July 8th, 2005.

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All right.

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So yeah, I've kind of wrapped up
most of the work I needed to do
this week.

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Got some phone calls and stuff
coming up.

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But it's five after four Friday
afternoon.

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I'm ready for the weekend.

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I certainly hope you are.

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Monday will start off with a
fresh new week.

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We'll be cranking it out.

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Where's my infinity plus?

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My infinity plus one, guys.

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Time to upgrade to another
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Make it three.

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I will see you Monday for sure.

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Maybe over the weekend.

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Have yourself a good one.
Bye-bye.

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