WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.000 Delta-share a Charlie 208. 00:05.000 --> 00:11.000 Something remarkable is happening here. Radio is springing free of the regulated 00:11.000 --> 00:16.000 gatekeepers who've managed what you can hear since radio was invented. It's jumping 00:16.000 --> 00:21.000 into the hands of anyone at all with something or nothing to say. 00:21.000 --> 00:24.000 With $16 million worth of airplanes strapped to my ass. 00:25.000 --> 00:28.000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:31.000 --> 00:33.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 00:36.000 --> 00:41.000 Hey everybody, how you doing? This is the Daily Source Code for July 14. 00:43.000 --> 00:45.000 Wow. What a day it's been. 00:46.000 --> 00:51.000 Another scorcher. I mean really, really, really hot. Probably as hot as my microphone 00:51.000 --> 00:53.000 is right now. Hold on, let me just turn that down. 00:55.000 --> 01:00.000 What you'll hear in the background from time to time during the show is the Convair. 01:03.000 --> 01:08.000 I've got the shade drawn down all the way in front of the cottage studio here. 01:08.000 --> 01:13.000 I've got the Convair full blast filled up with water, trying its best to circulate 01:13.000 --> 01:18.000 a little bit of air. Earlier today I had to record some stuff that actually 01:18.000 --> 01:21.000 could not have any background noise. I had to turn the Convair off. 01:21.000 --> 01:27.000 It took like 33 seconds for sweat to start pouring down all over my body. 01:27.000 --> 01:29.000 It's unbelievably hot. 01:29.000 --> 01:34.000 How you doing? It's the Source Code for Thursday, July 14, 2005. 01:34.000 --> 01:37.000 Coming to you from Curry Cottage, my name's Adam Curry. 01:42.000 --> 01:47.000 So yet again a new setup. Yesterday I talked about possibly sitting up at desk. 01:48.000 --> 01:52.000 A stand-up desk. And thank you very much. I've received a ton of links from people 01:52.000 --> 01:58.000 with all different kinds of products ranging from like $5,000 with electric motors 01:58.000 --> 02:03.000 that automatically rise and lower the table to an IKEA solution which is only about $500, 02:03.000 --> 02:07.000 which also by the way, I think that even has a motor for that money. 02:07.000 --> 02:10.000 But of course, you have to wind the coil in the engine yourself. 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 Where's the rimshot when you need it? 02:14.000 --> 02:17.000 The power of your intellect. 02:17.000 --> 02:21.000 So the format for today is laid back on the big ugly green thing. 02:21.000 --> 02:24.000 I've got the Convair to my left. 02:24.000 --> 02:28.000 I've got the microphone just flowing right over the armrest. 02:28.000 --> 02:32.000 I'm using the crapplet to record. Of course that means we're using Casplaster 02:32.000 --> 02:38.000 and yet a different config. Yesterday turns out I was recording everything in mono. 02:38.000 --> 02:41.000 I need a better machine. That's what it is. 02:41.000 --> 02:44.000 So once I get the desk done, then I'm going to get a machine 02:44.000 --> 02:47.000 which will be dedicated to recording the daily source code 02:47.000 --> 02:50.000 and I want Casplaster to be a part of the whole chain of events 02:50.000 --> 02:53.000 and so now that I know how to do it, I just need a better sound card 02:53.000 --> 02:56.000 than the one provided in the crapplet. But we've been through that before 02:56.000 --> 02:58.000 and I haven't. 02:58.000 --> 03:02.000 Mashup of the day is a world premiere actually sent to me 03:02.000 --> 03:10.000 by Adub from mashuptown.com 03:10.000 --> 03:13.000 Yeah man, I'm going to shut up. It's DJ Cheezy. 03:31.000 --> 03:36.000 You get it? Mysterious tweet. 03:36.000 --> 06:56.250 [ Music ] 06:58.000 --> 07:00.000 Man, I don't know what kind of weather it is where you are 07:00.000 --> 07:03.000 But this is the perfect song for a day like today 07:03.000 --> 07:06.000 DJ Cheesy, mysterious tweet 07:06.000 --> 07:09.000 You can find that at mashuptown.com 07:09.000 --> 07:11.000 Thank you, A-dub, for sending that along 07:11.000 --> 07:13.000 He's been feeding me with great mashups recently 07:13.000 --> 07:15.000 Totally appreciate it 07:15.000 --> 07:18.000 Man, that makes me wanna go back to Jamaica 07:18.000 --> 07:20.000 Man, Patricia and I were just talking 07:20.000 --> 07:22.000 Oops 07:24.000 --> 07:26.000 Oops, see, that's something I promised myself 07:26.000 --> 07:29.000 Not to have Skype open when... 07:29.000 --> 07:31.000 When running Cast Blaster 07:31.000 --> 07:34.000 Ah, good, tomorrow Mike and I 07:34.000 --> 07:36.000 Cast Blaster, Mike and I have a conversation 07:36.000 --> 07:37.000 With the Skype guys 07:37.000 --> 07:39.000 Hopefully we'll be able to integrate 07:39.000 --> 07:42.000 Skype recording into Cast Blaster 07:42.000 --> 07:43.000 In a future version 07:43.000 --> 07:45.000 And everyone's willing to make it work 07:45.000 --> 07:46.000 So that's the good news 07:46.000 --> 07:48.000 Now it's up to us to fail 07:48.000 --> 07:50.000 I think we'll do fine 07:50.000 --> 07:51.000 Anyway, I was saying 07:51.000 --> 07:53.000 Patricia and I were talking about Jamaica 07:53.000 --> 07:54.000 Just the other day 07:54.000 --> 07:55.000 Wouldn't it be great to go back there? 07:55.000 --> 07:56.000 Not right now actually 07:56.000 --> 07:59.000 Because now is probably the worst time in the world 07:59.000 --> 08:01.000 But we've been to Jamaica 08:01.000 --> 08:02.000 I don't know, maybe 15 times 08:02.000 --> 08:05.000 And we haven't gone for maybe two years 08:05.000 --> 08:07.000 And this year we're not going to Jamaica 08:07.000 --> 08:08.000 We're gonna go to the States 08:08.000 --> 08:10.000 So the plan is in August 08:10.000 --> 08:12.000 To go first to New York 08:12.000 --> 08:14.000 Then maybe Las Vegas 08:14.000 --> 08:17.000 We're thinking of a couple days in Vegas 08:17.000 --> 08:19.000 Then out west 08:19.000 --> 08:21.000 Hopefully to stop by Portland 08:21.000 --> 08:24.000 So Patricia and Ken can catch up as well 08:24.000 --> 08:26.000 Then to San Francisco 08:26.000 --> 08:30.000 Neither Patricia Cristino San Francisco 08:30.000 --> 08:33.000 And of course I'm gonna be there a lot 08:33.000 --> 08:36.000 And they're always welcome to come along 08:36.000 --> 08:38.000 And I think they'll enjoy that 08:38.000 --> 08:40.000 And I'm gonna drive up north 08:40.000 --> 08:41.000 Up the coast 08:41.000 --> 08:43.000 And then eventually we'll fly back 08:43.000 --> 08:45.000 So that's kind of the plan 08:45.000 --> 08:46.000 For today though 08:46.000 --> 08:48.000 I really just, it's so warm 08:48.000 --> 08:50.000 As I said I already did some work 08:50.000 --> 08:52.000 It's just it's too much 08:52.000 --> 08:55.000 So I didn't have enough energy 08:55.000 --> 08:57.000 Really to go and look through promos 08:57.000 --> 08:58.000 And stuff like that 08:58.000 --> 08:59.000 Of course the match up 08:59.000 --> 09:01.000 And I got a pod safe music tune 09:01.000 --> 09:02.000 I want to play for you 09:02.000 --> 09:05.000 But there's such a huge amount of email 09:05.000 --> 09:07.000 That I've been saving to discuss on the show 09:07.000 --> 09:08.000 Let's just run through the mailbox 09:08.000 --> 09:09.000 I'm sitting here with a crap 09:09.000 --> 09:10.000 But this is pretty cool 09:10.000 --> 09:12.000 Because now Casblast is running in the background 09:12.000 --> 09:14.000 But everything's working I hope 09:14.000 --> 09:15.000 Let me just check 09:15.000 --> 09:16.000 Bring it to the front there 09:16.000 --> 09:18.000 Yeah everything's fine 09:18.000 --> 09:22.000 So my shoulder and my left arm 09:22.000 --> 09:24.000 I've been talking about that 09:24.000 --> 09:26.000 You know I gotta bitch about it to somebody right 09:26.000 --> 09:29.000 No one else here wants to hear about it anymore 09:29.000 --> 09:31.000 The only real once in a while 09:31.000 --> 09:32.000 Just spasms you know 09:32.000 --> 09:33.000 And so everything starts to hurt 09:33.000 --> 09:34.000 I can kind of deal with that 09:34.000 --> 09:36.000 But what really sucks 09:36.000 --> 09:39.000 Is it feels like my index finger 09:39.000 --> 09:42.000 And the tip of my thumb 09:42.000 --> 09:44.000 As if they're they fall in asleep 09:44.000 --> 09:46.000 Not completely I can still feel through it 09:46.000 --> 09:48.000 You know it's like novocaine that's 09:48.000 --> 09:50.000 That's wearing off 09:50.000 --> 09:52.000 And everyone I talked to 09:52.000 --> 09:54.000 Says yeah you know it was a pinched nerve 09:54.000 --> 09:55.000 Or whatever it'll go away 09:55.000 --> 09:56.000 And I'm just feeling pretty sorry for myself 09:56.000 --> 09:58.000 And I got an email from 09:58.000 --> 10:01.000 I think Steve Smetters 10:01.000 --> 10:04.000 And it's really nice 10:04.000 --> 10:06.000 He says I'll just read from this 10:06.000 --> 10:08.000 I have a very blue collar aviation job 10:08.000 --> 10:10.000 I fly an aerial survey aircraft 10:10.000 --> 10:12.000 Cessna Turbo 206 in Columbus Ohio 10:12.000 --> 10:14.000 Most of our flying occurs in the cold months 10:14.000 --> 10:16.000 Between November 1st and June 1st 10:16.000 --> 10:18.000 When the leaves are off the trees 10:18.000 --> 10:20.000 Easier to make maps when you can see through the trees 10:20.000 --> 10:22.000 7 to 9 hour days in the aircraft 10:22.000 --> 10:25.000 Wow 7 to 9 hour days in the aircraft 10:25.000 --> 10:27.000 Smashing through the turbulence 10:27.000 --> 10:28.000 Right because you have to stay low 10:28.000 --> 10:30.000 He says we rarely get above it 10:30.000 --> 10:32.000 Has often given me the same numbness 10:32.000 --> 10:34.000 And tingling not to mention soreness 10:34.000 --> 10:36.000 That you have mentioned especially in the left arm 10:36.000 --> 10:38.000 Since I do not have attitude hold 10:38.000 --> 10:40.000 On my autopilot yeah I don't have that in the 182 either 10:40.000 --> 10:42.000 That's the that's the 10:42.000 --> 10:44.000 The next upgrade I want to get when it's all slave 10:44.000 --> 10:46.000 To the GPS 10:46.000 --> 10:48.000 So anyway his left arm 10:48.000 --> 10:50.000 Is left to absorb most of the bumps 10:50.000 --> 10:52.000 Multiply this over the course of 20 years 10:52.000 --> 10:54.000 I've been doing this type of flying 10:54.000 --> 10:56.000 I'm 41 he says it sucks 10:56.000 --> 10:58.000 Okay and the only way he says 10:58.000 --> 11:00.000 He's found to alleviate the pain is lifting weights 11:00.000 --> 11:02.000 Interesting because my I was told 11:02.000 --> 11:04.000 Specifically not to do that 11:04.000 --> 11:06.000 Maybe I'll wait another week before I 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 Because I do like to work out now 11:08.000 --> 11:10.000 I've been forced to the gym 11:10.000 --> 11:12.000 Steve thank you very much and 11:12.000 --> 11:14.000 I guess that's it you know just a life 11:14.000 --> 11:16.000 Of yoke yankers that 11:16.000 --> 11:18.000 That will live with numbness in our left 11:18.000 --> 11:20.000 Arms 11:20.000 --> 11:22.000 Let's see 11:22.000 --> 11:24.000 I wanted to play this later on for you 11:24.000 --> 11:26.000 I got an email I'll play this 11:26.000 --> 11:28.000 Near the end of the show Mark 11:28.000 --> 11:30.000 Kelso sent me an email 11:30.000 --> 11:32.000 I said you have to listen to this 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 IT conversations podcast 11:34.000 --> 11:36.000 Of David Corsi you know David 11:36.000 --> 11:38.000 I'll talk about David Corsi in a moment 11:38.000 --> 11:40.000 Let me get back to that let me see what the next email is 11:40.000 --> 11:42.000 Okay so that was 11:42.000 --> 11:44.000 This is from art with the 11:44.000 --> 11:46.000 Peter Andre versus yeah whatever 11:46.000 --> 11:48.000 Surprise mystery tweet 11:52.000 --> 11:54.000 Dudley Beale 11:54.000 --> 11:56.000 I'm a presenter on a hospital radio station 11:56.000 --> 11:58.000 Of course dear to my heart since that's how I started 11:58.000 --> 12:00.000 You have a very captive audience I bet 12:00.000 --> 12:02.000 Based at the Royal National Orthopedic 12:02.000 --> 12:04.000 Hospital in Stanmore 12:04.000 --> 12:06.000 Radio Broccoli 12:06.000 --> 12:08.000 Broccoli 12:08.000 --> 12:10.000 B-R-O-C-K-L-E-Y Broccoli 12:10.000 --> 12:12.000 Oh man 12:12.000 --> 12:14.000 Radio Broccoli but it sounds like 12:14.000 --> 12:16.000 Radio Broccoli doesn't it 12:16.000 --> 12:18.000 There I present and produce a program 12:18.000 --> 12:20.000 Called the midweek pick and mix 12:20.000 --> 12:22.000 And to be honest the voiceover that I'm using for the program 12:22.000 --> 12:24.000 Is getting a little old on not of the best audio quality 12:24.000 --> 12:26.000 Would it be possible to say 12:26.000 --> 12:28.000 On the daily source code the following 12:28.000 --> 12:30.000 So I used it in my program 12:30.000 --> 12:32.000 You listen to the midweek pick and mix on radio brock 12:32.000 --> 12:34.000 Okay you know I'll even turn off 12:34.000 --> 12:36.000 There for you okay here you go 12:36.000 --> 12:38.000 Get ready to snip this piece out there Dudley 12:40.000 --> 12:42.000 You're listening to the midweek pick and mix 12:42.000 --> 12:44.000 On radio broccoli 12:46.000 --> 12:48.000 Would you like some mayonnaise with your broccoli 12:50.000 --> 12:52.000 What a great name for a radio station 12:52.000 --> 12:54.000 At college we had K-I-T-B-W 12:54.000 --> 12:56.000 No no I'm sorry 12:56.000 --> 12:58.000 W-I-T-B that's what it was 12:58.000 --> 13:00.000 Which officially stood for 13:00.000 --> 13:02.000 We're in the basement where the original studio was 13:02.000 --> 13:04.000 But of course by the time I got there it was 13:04.000 --> 13:06.000 We're into bong hits 13:06.000 --> 13:08.000 See Polly Shore doing a podcast 13:08.000 --> 13:10.000 No we'll skip over that man 13:10.000 --> 13:12.000 We work with Polly Shore at MTV 13:12.000 --> 13:14.000 And he was oh man he was irritating 13:18.000 --> 13:20.000 I thought there was a lot more here 13:20.000 --> 13:22.000 OSX has an update 13:22.000 --> 13:24.000 10.4 this is all technical stuff 13:24.000 --> 13:26.000 I don't want to talk about that right now 13:28.000 --> 13:30.000 Wow okay well I guess 13:30.000 --> 13:32.000 That was the email then I thought I had a lot more 13:34.000 --> 13:36.000 No that's it 13:36.000 --> 13:38.000 Okay well good then we have 13:38.000 --> 13:40.000 Enough 13:40.000 --> 13:42.000 As said way too warm today 13:42.000 --> 13:44.000 To really do a lot of preparation 13:44.000 --> 13:46.000 Why don't we do this 13:46.000 --> 13:48.000 The David Corsi thing 13:48.000 --> 13:50.000 Let's just roll through that because this is so amazing 13:50.000 --> 13:52.000 David Corsi is a columnist 13:54.000 --> 13:56.000 And I really only started reading his stuff 13:56.000 --> 13:58.000 But it was a while ago it must have been 13:58.000 --> 14:00.000 I want to say 10 years ago 14:00.000 --> 14:02.000 And he was one of the few people that would write about 14:02.000 --> 14:04.000 Mac stuff 14:04.000 --> 14:06.000 I mean Windows there really was no Windows then 14:06.000 --> 14:08.000 You know you had 14:08.000 --> 14:10.000 Windows 95 14:10.000 --> 14:12.000 It kind of went a whole bunch of magazines 14:12.000 --> 14:14.000 Sprouted and he was around there that time too 14:14.000 --> 14:16.000 But he's kind of an industry pundit 14:16.000 --> 14:18.000 Pundit, pundit, pundit 14:18.000 --> 14:20.000 But I've never found him to be very 14:20.000 --> 14:22.000 Informative to me at least 14:22.000 --> 14:24.000 But very opinionated 14:24.000 --> 14:26.000 And 14:26.000 --> 14:28.000 I don't know if 14:28.000 --> 14:30.000 He's not like a guy that 14:30.000 --> 14:32.000 The new David Corsi is out 14:32.000 --> 14:34.000 I have to go read him 14:34.000 --> 14:36.000 But he does have a wide 14:36.000 --> 14:38.000 Distribution network 14:38.000 --> 14:40.000 And he was interviewed on 14:40.000 --> 14:42.000 An IT Conversations 14:42.000 --> 14:44.000 Podcast 14:44.000 --> 14:46.000 And 14:46.000 --> 14:48.000 I couldn't even pull an excerpt from it 14:48.000 --> 14:50.000 Because some of the stuff he was saying 14:50.000 --> 14:52.000 Was just so amazing 14:52.000 --> 14:54.000 I'll turn down the Convair 14:54.000 --> 14:56.000 Just a notch there 14:56.000 --> 14:58.000 So it still stays cool and we can listen to this 14:58.000 --> 15:00.000 Together and I can leave the mic over 15:00.000 --> 15:02.000 My name is Rob Greenlee and I appreciate you listening today 15:02.000 --> 15:04.000 We are joined right now by David Corsi 15:04.000 --> 15:06.000 Who is an industry analyst and consultant 15:06.000 --> 15:08.000 He is a former executive editor at ZDNet 15:08.000 --> 15:10.000 Anchor Desk 15:10.000 --> 15:12.000 And a former editor published at PC Letter 15:12.000 --> 15:14.000 And a former radio show host at CNET Radio 15:14.000 --> 15:16.000 And is now a contributor 15:16.000 --> 15:18.000 He's a former a lot of everything isn't he 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 Published.com and he has spent two decades 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 Writing about hardware, software 15:22.000 --> 15:24.000 Publications for business customers 15:24.000 --> 15:26.000 He is also president of David Corsi Consulting 15:26.000 --> 15:28.000 Incorporated. David is going to talk 15:28.000 --> 15:30.000 Extensively about his background 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 In print journalism, radio broadcasting 15:32.000 --> 15:34.000 And he also talks about some recent articles 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 Expressing skepticism 15:36.000 --> 15:38.000 About journalistic web logs 15:38.000 --> 15:40.000 And the long-term growth of grassroots podcasting 15:40.000 --> 15:42.000 Okay so apparently he wrote some columns 15:42.000 --> 15:44.000 Which I have not read as I already pointed out 15:44.000 --> 15:46.000 But let's just 15:46.000 --> 15:48.000 I'm going to let this go along because 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 Man he 15:50.000 --> 15:52.000 Think about maybe ten minutes 15:52.000 --> 15:54.000 But I think well worth it and I'll jump into 15:54.000 --> 15:56.000 Comment once in a while but it's really 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 Amazing the things that he has to say 15:58.000 --> 16:00.000 Particularly because I feel we have very similar 16:00.000 --> 16:02.000 Backgrounds. I've been in radio 16:02.000 --> 16:04.000 Since I was fifteen 16:04.000 --> 16:06.000 Been in mainstream media all of my adult life 16:08.000 --> 16:10.000 He has different ideas 16:10.000 --> 16:12.000 Very much good to be here 16:12.000 --> 16:14.000 Why don't you tell us something about your background 16:14.000 --> 16:16.000 In media and technology and 16:16.000 --> 16:18.000 You've actually done a broadcast radio 16:18.000 --> 16:20.000 I've been watching that radio for a few years 16:20.000 --> 16:22.000 Want to tell us kind of about your media background 16:22.000 --> 16:24.000 Well my background is basically 16:24.000 --> 16:26.000 Starting in radio 16:26.000 --> 16:28.000 When I guess I was fifteen years old 16:28.000 --> 16:30.000 Which is quite a while ago now 16:30.000 --> 16:32.000 In Dallas at a radio station 16:32.000 --> 16:34.000 That doesn't exist anymore 16:34.000 --> 16:36.000 At least the AM doesn't WRR 16:36.000 --> 16:38.000 I stayed in broadcasting in the Dallas area 16:38.000 --> 16:40.000 Doing news for 16:40.000 --> 16:42.000 About I guess ten years 16:42.000 --> 16:44.000 And slowly as radio 16:44.000 --> 16:46.000 Changed due to deregulation 16:46.000 --> 16:48.000 News departments went away etc 16:48.000 --> 16:50.000 I got into print 16:50.000 --> 16:52.000 I was working at 16:52.000 --> 16:54.000 Suburban newspaper 16:54.000 --> 16:56.000 At writing for USA Today 16:56.000 --> 16:58.000 For several years 16:58.000 --> 17:00.000 Then in 1985 17:00.000 --> 17:02.000 Got into the computer trade 17:02.000 --> 17:04.000 Went to work for a publication 17:04.000 --> 17:06.000 Again no longer exists 17:06.000 --> 17:08.000 Called FIS week 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 Published by CapCities out of New York 17:10.000 --> 17:12.000 Then went to Info World 17:12.000 --> 17:14.000 And the rest is history 17:14.000 --> 17:16.000 Stuart Alsop asked me to take over 17:16.000 --> 17:18.000 PC letter when he was 17:18.000 --> 17:20.000 Leading back to go on and do some other things 17:20.000 --> 17:22.000 I basically become editor-in-chief 17:22.000 --> 17:24.000 Of the Info World 17:24.000 --> 17:26.000 He's just going to go on and on a bit here 17:26.000 --> 17:28.000 About everything he's done 17:28.000 --> 17:30.000 We'll get into the meat of the conversation 17:30.000 --> 17:32.000 In a second though 17:32.000 --> 17:34.000 They get dearly departed 17:34.000 --> 17:36.000 Everywhere he worked 17:36.000 --> 17:38.000 Is dead 17:38.000 --> 17:40.000 Everywhere I go doesn't work anymore 17:40.000 --> 17:42.000 I spent three years 17:42.000 --> 17:44.000 As you pointed out, three happy years 17:44.000 --> 17:46.000 At CNET 17:46.000 --> 17:48.000 Left there while I was doing radio 17:48.000 --> 17:50.000 And television and broadband 17:50.000 --> 17:52.000 CNET has gone through some changes 17:52.000 --> 17:54.000 Getting rid of television and radio 17:54.000 --> 17:56.000 I really should have queued some of this up 17:56.000 --> 17:58.000 I feel 17:58.000 --> 18:00.000 Just turning down a little bit there 18:00.000 --> 18:02.000 Having lots of fun 18:02.000 --> 18:04.000 It certainly sounds like you're staying busy 18:04.000 --> 18:06.000 What is going on in the whole 18:06.000 --> 18:08.000 Sector of news 18:08.000 --> 18:10.000 In relation to 18:10.000 --> 18:12.000 Technology right now 18:12.000 --> 18:14.000 It seems like it's changing all 18:14.000 --> 18:16.000 Towards blogs and things like that 18:16.000 --> 18:18.000 What's your perspective on how things are 18:18.000 --> 18:20.000 Evolving in that sector? 18:20.000 --> 18:22.000 You say it's changing 18:22.000 --> 18:24.000 Towards blogs 18:24.000 --> 18:26.000 Maybe you're abating me just a bit 18:26.000 --> 18:28.000 Like blogs 18:28.000 --> 18:30.000 Almost as much as I like 18:30.000 --> 18:32.000 But actually 18:32.000 --> 18:34.000 Right now I already get it 18:34.000 --> 18:36.000 He wrote a couple of articles that were 18:36.000 --> 18:38.000 I guess anti-weblog 18:38.000 --> 18:40.000 Anti-podcasting 18:40.000 --> 18:42.000 It's not really going to mean anything 18:42.000 --> 18:44.000 And this is what 18:44.000 --> 18:46.000 He's now garnering a lot of attention 18:46.000 --> 18:48.000 And so he's loving it 18:48.000 --> 18:50.000 That by the way 18:50.000 --> 18:52.000 Is how it works 18:52.000 --> 18:54.000 Once you get the attention 18:54.000 --> 18:56.000 You decide whether you want to go for it 18:56.000 --> 18:58.000 He's going for it with the negative stuff 18:58.000 --> 19:00.000 If you're going to do it 19:00.000 --> 19:02.000 Essentially is a hobby 19:02.000 --> 19:04.000 When I look at a blog 19:04.000 --> 19:06.000 I'm a columnist 19:06.000 --> 19:08.000 And it used to write 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 More of a bloggy thing 19:10.000 --> 19:12.000 Okay 19:12.000 --> 19:14.000 Bloggy thing 19:14.000 --> 19:16.000 And I found that it took me just as long 19:16.000 --> 19:18.000 To write a blog entry as it did 19:18.000 --> 19:20.000 A column 19:20.000 --> 19:22.000 And fewer people saw the blog entry 19:22.000 --> 19:24.000 Yeah, interesting 19:24.000 --> 19:26.000 So that was 19:26.000 --> 19:28.000 Rob Greenlee, what was that 19:28.000 --> 19:30.000 Interesting, come on man 19:30.000 --> 19:32.000 Slice him right there 19:32.000 --> 19:34.000 Well let me write columns instead 19:34.000 --> 19:36.000 But it can take 19:36.000 --> 19:38.000 By time you do research 19:38.000 --> 19:40.000 And whatever most of the day to do a column 19:40.000 --> 19:42.000 Yeah 19:42.000 --> 19:44.000 For people who 19:44.000 --> 19:46.000 You know 19:46.000 --> 19:48.000 It just seems like it's an awful lot of work 19:48.000 --> 19:50.000 For something that isn't 19:50.000 --> 19:52.000 Going to be somebody's job 19:52.000 --> 19:54.000 Oh man 19:54.000 --> 19:56.000 But this is like the oldest 19:56.000 --> 19:58.000 Argument that I've heard 19:58.000 --> 20:00.000 About weblogging 20:00.000 --> 20:02.000 This is the oldest one 20:02.000 --> 20:04.000 This is not even a new way to say weblogs are no good 20:04.000 --> 20:06.000 This is 20:06.000 --> 20:08.000 This is amazing to me 20:08.000 --> 20:10.000 That's why I wanted to share this with you 20:10.000 --> 20:12.000 Let's just listen to a little bit more 20:12.000 --> 20:14.000 Because if you think you can dig the hole any deeper 20:14.000 --> 20:16.000 Oh man, it goes all the way to China 20:16.000 --> 20:18.000 All the media 20:18.000 --> 20:20.000 They're all jumping on this bandwagon 20:20.000 --> 20:22.000 And offering blogs and those kind of things 20:22.000 --> 20:24.000 And is it kind of pulling away from the 20:24.000 --> 20:26.000 Long form type of writing 20:26.000 --> 20:28.000 That's been going on for a long time 20:28.000 --> 20:30.000 I guess blog proponents 20:30.000 --> 20:32.000 Would say so 20:32.000 --> 20:34.000 But I don't see it 20:34.000 --> 20:36.000 I mean I think if you're involved in something 20:36.000 --> 20:38.000 It looks a lot bigger and a lot more important 20:38.000 --> 20:40.000 Than it really is 20:40.000 --> 20:42.000 I don't think blogs are going to 20:42.000 --> 20:44.000 Oh, hugely change 20:44.000 --> 20:46.000 The way we do things 20:46.000 --> 20:48.000 Okay 20:48.000 --> 20:50.000 That's a wager I'm willing to take 20:50.000 --> 20:52.000 No problemo 20:52.000 --> 20:54.000 Of course they're changing the way we do 20:54.000 --> 20:56.000 Or maybe he meant we as in 20:56.000 --> 20:58.000 People who are paid 20:58.000 --> 21:00.000 The limitations both of the medium 21:00.000 --> 21:02.000 And of the people who created 21:02.000 --> 21:04.000 Yeah, I'm always a little concerned 21:04.000 --> 21:06.000 And now by the way 21:06.000 --> 21:08.000 I'm speaking in terms of 21:08.000 --> 21:10.000 Big national affairs 21:10.000 --> 21:12.000 Kinds of blogs 21:12.000 --> 21:14.000 I'm not about somebody who is 21:14.000 --> 21:16.000 Microsoft engineer writing about 21:16.000 --> 21:18.000 Microsoft stuff and sharing some of their experiences 21:18.000 --> 21:20.000 These sorts of specialized 21:20.000 --> 21:22.000 You know, sorts of blogs 21:22.000 --> 21:24.000 But in terms of 21:24.000 --> 21:26.000 Being part of 21:26.000 --> 21:28.000 The debate of major issues 21:28.000 --> 21:30.000 Blogs tend to be 21:30.000 --> 21:32.000 By people who have an agenda 21:32.000 --> 21:34.000 That they want to push 21:34.000 --> 21:36.000 And are read by people who want to see that agenda 21:36.000 --> 21:38.000 Who want to read about it 21:38.000 --> 21:40.000 I wish Dave Weiner were here 21:40.000 --> 21:42.000 Because this is what he sometimes does 21:42.000 --> 21:44.000 On scripting news 21:44.000 --> 21:46.000 He pulls stuff apart 21:46.000 --> 21:48.000 But this is so 21:48.000 --> 21:50.000 Oh man 21:50.000 --> 21:52.000 Professional writers 21:52.000 --> 21:54.000 Don't have an agenda 21:54.000 --> 21:56.000 Write to a certain audience 21:56.000 --> 21:58.000 Come on, David, please 21:58.000 --> 22:00.000 Circle is best I know 22:00.000 --> 22:02.000 Like Fox News, I guess 22:02.000 --> 22:04.000 Yeah, I guess people are going to enjoy doing it 22:04.000 --> 22:06.000 But I think it's going to be a little bit like 22:06.000 --> 22:08.000 Early websites 22:08.000 --> 22:10.000 In which the web happened 22:10.000 --> 22:12.000 HTML, anyone can have a website 22:12.000 --> 22:14.000 And then 22:14.000 --> 22:16.000 It kind of falls off as people realize 22:16.000 --> 22:18.000 Well, not everyone 22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 Can do the arts and crafts 22:20.000 --> 22:22.000 Necessary to have an interesting website 22:22.000 --> 22:24.000 Not everyone has the amount of time 22:24.000 --> 22:26.000 That it takes to maintain a website 22:26.000 --> 22:28.000 Now blogs are a solution 22:28.000 --> 22:30.000 To that problem for lots of people 22:30.000 --> 22:32.000 Because it's a website that you can manage very easily 22:32.000 --> 22:34.000 But that's still 22:34.000 --> 22:36.000 Content creation is still tough 22:36.000 --> 22:38.000 It is hard work for people 22:38.000 --> 22:40.000 Certainly it seems like 22:40.000 --> 22:42.000 What you're saying in reference to blogs 22:42.000 --> 22:44.000 Also applies to podcast 22:44.000 --> 22:46.000 It's a very similar type of a 22:46.000 --> 22:48.000 Process that's going on online 22:48.000 --> 22:50.000 I think that's fascinating when you extend it out 22:50.000 --> 22:52.000 To blogs and if you're looking at content creation 22:52.000 --> 22:54.000 With podcasting 22:54.000 --> 22:56.000 Looking at it from the perspective 22:56.000 --> 22:58.000 Of what we've seen happen with blogs 22:58.000 --> 23:00.000 And is that a good 23:00.000 --> 23:02.000 Way of looking at it 23:02.000 --> 23:04.000 That what happened to blogs is probably 23:04.000 --> 23:06.000 What's going to happen with podcasting as well 23:06.000 --> 23:08.000 Or is podcasting in your view different 23:08.000 --> 23:10.000 Ask one question 23:10.000 --> 23:12.000 I think they are close enough to be treated the same 23:12.000 --> 23:14.000 Yeah, I think at the end of the day 23:14.000 --> 23:16.000 There are going to be 23:16.000 --> 23:18.000 Just as Matt Drudge showed up 23:18.000 --> 23:20.000 There are going to be some people 23:20.000 --> 23:22.000 Who are going to create 23:22.000 --> 23:24.000 I don't think I can handle any more of this 23:24.000 --> 23:26.000 But it is so good 23:26.000 --> 23:28.000 There is so much more that follows this 23:28.000 --> 23:30.000 You have to listen to this 23:30.000 --> 23:32.000 You really have to listen to this interview 23:32.000 --> 23:34.000 And 23:34.000 --> 23:36.000 It's one total viewpoint 23:36.000 --> 23:38.000 But I'm just amazed 23:38.000 --> 23:40.000 I was kind of amazed by this whole conversation 23:40.000 --> 23:42.000 That Rob Greenley didn't really jump in 23:42.000 --> 23:44.000 And defend any of this 23:44.000 --> 23:46.000 Or go against the grain 23:46.000 --> 23:48.000 It was just phenomenal to me 23:48.000 --> 23:50.000 Anyway, let's 23:50.000 --> 23:52.000 Roll out some pod safe music that really kicks ass 23:52.000 --> 23:54.000 Okay, crowd surfing 23:54.000 --> 23:56.000 Is permitted by the way 23:58.000 --> 24:00.000 Transfer Romanics 24:00.000 --> 24:02.000 How hazardous we are 24:03.750 --> 26:41.250 [ Music ] 26:42.000 --> 26:44.000 You are 27:08.000 --> 27:10.000 I would like to say that 27:10.000 --> 27:12.000 I've been working on my podcast 27:12.000 --> 27:14.000 I'm going to Skype with him 27:14.000 --> 27:16.000 During the daily source code 27:16.000 --> 27:18.000 Some really exciting stuff to talk about 27:20.000 --> 27:22.000 Finally time for some damn announcements 27:24.000 --> 27:26.000 The launch of the Podsafe Music Network 27:26.000 --> 27:28.000 Which brings podcasters 27:32.000 --> 27:34.000 And podsafe artists together 27:34.000 --> 27:36.000 And the listener of course benefits 27:36.000 --> 27:40.960 names you know have worked on this. We've really been, yeah, been working very hard. I mean, 27:40.960 --> 27:49.440 I haven't been working hard. And I'm just sitting here melting. But CC and Chris and Sue and well, 27:49.440 --> 27:54.960 you're going to hear about a lot of these people tomorrow as we roll out. And it's obviously we're 27:54.960 --> 28:00.320 doing this in beta so that we can work out all the bugs and the kinks. But I think you'll 28:00.320 --> 28:07.360 like it. It's finally, it's you know, we're closing the gap on creating our own music industry 28:08.080 --> 28:13.360 with podcasting as a big part of it. So tune in tomorrow. That'll be the Friday's edition of the 28:13.360 --> 28:19.760 Daily Source Code. And I'm going to rev the Conner up to full speed and lay down a bit. 28:22.480 --> 28:25.680 You know, now I'm tired. I feel like I've earned my keep for today. 28:26.400 --> 28:32.560 Okay, DailySourceCode.com is where you can find the podcast feed. It's where you can find 28:32.560 --> 28:36.720 new episode and the archives, all that moving over to new servers. I don't know if it's 28:36.720 --> 28:40.000 going to happen over the weekend or beginning of next week, but it is happening. 28:43.360 --> 28:49.040 And then we're going to fixcurry.com, which will also be moving over to a new server. And 28:49.040 --> 28:57.040 then finally we'll be able to really get to work on iPodder.org. And we've got a big plan drawn up 28:57.040 --> 29:01.920 for that, which of course I'll be talking about here on the source code. But first order of 29:01.920 --> 29:06.320 business is to make it, you know, really be able to handle the loads. It is getting hit an awful 29:06.320 --> 29:12.320 lot. And then hopefully we can get some new tools. Maybe Dave Weiner's OPML tool will be 29:12.320 --> 29:16.320 ready by then we get them into the hands of the node managers and we'll be kicking ass. 29:21.520 --> 29:26.640 If you want to send me a voice comment, feel free to do so, adamantcurry.com. 29:27.920 --> 29:36.480 One more plea to the Google guys. Where's my Gmail infinity plus one? I'm now at 99% of 29:36.480 --> 29:41.120 my two gigs. Please. I don't want to have to delete stuff. I don't want to set up forwards 29:41.120 --> 29:44.480 other accounts. Please. Please. Please. I beg of you. 29:46.640 --> 29:52.160 All right. Your promos are welcome. Submitted podshow.com, podsafe at podshow.com. 29:54.800 --> 30:00.400 For all of your pod save music and mashup at podshow.com for the mashups. I'll talk to you 30:00.400 --> 30:02.400 tomorrow, y'all. Bye bye.