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Delta Shira Charley 2-1-2
something remarkable is
happening here radio is
springing free

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of the regulated gatekeepers who
managed what you can hear since
radio is invented.

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It's jumping into the hands of
anyone at all with something or
nothing to say.

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It was $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass than
the next generation radio

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content in my ears.

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Hello everybody from San
Francisco just in time for the
weekend it's a source code.

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Okay, I feel really, really bad
because I have left y'all in the
dark as in completely

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radio silence but there's all a
good explanation for it.

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Most of it has to do with human
fatigue.

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It's the source code for the
22nd July 2005.

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And I'm coming to you from San
Francisco last time we spoke was
Tuesday when I was in

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Curry Cottage.

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I'm not going to tell you what
hotel I'm in.

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I've learned my lesson ever
since iTunes launched whenever I
tell you what I'm doing on the
road

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and where I'm staying.

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The phone starts ringing like 3
in the morning and I haven't
quite got to that point where

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I registered the hotel as Mr.
Ben Dover.

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Anyway, we've got lots of stuff
to talk about.

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Lots of catching up to do.

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We've got pod safe music and
young pellets hit test all on
the way.

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Okay, I'm just trying to think
where I have to start.

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You know, it's been an amazing
almost 72 hours.

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Left Tuesday morning dropped
Christina off at school and went
straight off to the airport.

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So I'm going to check my
microphone levels.

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Of course, I'm coming to you on
the cast blaster, which I love
to do when I'm on the road
because everything

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is so self-contained and
everything just kind of works
and I got all my stuff loaded
up.

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I love it.

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And basically 10 hour flight got
in when straight from the
airport to some meetings 24
hours of no sleep

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which took me out for Thursday
and Friday, which was today.

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Well, I'll get into all of that.

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You know what?

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Let's get the weekend cranking.

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Hopefully you're still kind of
ending up your work mode.

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It's Friday wherever you are
listening to this.

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If not, you know what?

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This will work for any day of
the weekend, I think.

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Check this mashup for
mashuptown.com.

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It's owner of a lonely butt,
which means we've got some yes
mixed up with sir mix a lot.

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You might want to crank this one
up and stick it in your ear.

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[ Music ]

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We learn and learn and learn

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Oh, you're a lonely butt

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You can find that at
mashuptown.com

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Eight doubles been sending me
all kinds of cool stuff

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And I'm loaded up for

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Certainly for the next couple of
weeks

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I've got mashups but do not
hesitate at all

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The send your mashups in mashup
at podshow.com

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This is the daily source code

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I'm gonna try and play catch up
with you

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See if we can

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Woo

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Man

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I'm in stand-up mode actually
today

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I figured that's about the only
way I could see right now

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It's a six thirty p.m. Friday
afternoon

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Early evening of course in San
Francisco

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I am so tired

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I can't tell you how tired I am

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So yeah, so

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Plain ride

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Let me just do it in
chronological order

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That's probably the best way
that I can keep track of all
this stuff

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Upper deck

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Virgin upper deck

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Unlike their mobile phone
service

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Which interestingly enough

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I was reading the financial
times

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The UK financial times

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On the airplane

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And there was this article about
the virgin mobile

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As you know, I've had some

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Well, I had some

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Not only to have some problems
with them

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But I dropped them as my carrier
for my phone service

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And actually I thought about it

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You know, there's probably

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Anywhere from, you know, like 13
to 15 thousand

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Dollars worth of revenue that
they lost

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Simply by just not being able to
deal with me as a customer

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And it's a technical problem

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You know, there are virtual
mobile operator

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They ride on top of T-Mobile

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And they just couldn't figure
out how to un-blacklist my phone

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No problem, so I'm a very
satisfied T-Mobile customer now

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But I was reading that last year
they had 150,000 new sign-ups

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In this period and this year
it's 75,000 sign-ups

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So it makes sense if there's any
analyst listening

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There you go, and now they say
they're concentrating on

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What is it? The concentrating on
the higher

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On the upper level of their
customers

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So people who spend a lot of
money

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I think if I'm spending $15,000
a year on

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On phone calls that I would
probably fall in that category

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But you know, they got some work
to do

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Anyway, so their airline virgin
airlines

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I'm still, or a virgin Atlantic

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I'm still very happy with it

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It was great actually

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Two times in a row, I don't know
how it works

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But they have a massage service
on board

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And of course, you know, there's
probably about 50 people who all
want the massage

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And they can only do

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There's one masseuse typically

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On a flight and they can only do
so many people

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So I did get my shot this time

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Which was great because man, my
shoulder

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It's much, much better

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Thank you so much

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I'm still getting so many emails
from people who identify

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With exactly this problem

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We were even saying, oh, you
know, I've had this, but never
really thought about what it
could be

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There's no pain actually,
there's very little pain
involved

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But sometimes I can just feel my

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You know, the tendons or muscle,
whatever it is, my shoulder

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Tighten up, going to some kind
of like spasm

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And then immediately my whole
arm

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Starts to tingle and starts to
go numb

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And I have some exercises now
that I have to do

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Which I think I did them for you

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Didn't do them last week, we
pushed your chin back

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Into your neck like gratins

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It's not very attractive when
you do that

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Because then you get like triple
chin

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Oh my god, just caught a little
glimpse of that in the mirror

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Let's see, so I actually did
some work on the flight over

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Hopefully by now you've had a
chance to check out our first
shadow cast of Spike Lee

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It's listed prominently in
iTunes

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And you can subscribe to the
podcast

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There'll be four episodes

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And I was editing episode number
two

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Which will be out this coming
Tuesday

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You've probably got a good taste
of what this Spike Lee podcast
of

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Inside man is all about with our
shadow cast or human Newman

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Who just kills me with his
narration

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I really love listening to that

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So give it a listen if you
haven't checked it out yet

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So I did some editing, which was
great, you know

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You've got their in-seat power

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And you can really get a lot of
work done

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Very, very comfortable doing
that

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Very luxurious in their in their
seats

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Where you kind of you can even
recline during takeoff and
landing

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Which I totally appreciate

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Also watch two movies

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I finally got the C-Ray

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Which I hadn't seen yet

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About the life and times of

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Of Ray Charles

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I was really good

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I was a good movie

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I understand why it was an
award-winning movie

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I was nice

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Although there was a lot of
stuff in there

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I felt they focused really
heavily on the hero and aspect

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And you know those days

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Back in the late 50s and 60s

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Everybody was screwing everybody
on the road

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And doing all kinds of drugs

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And it wasn't really out of the
ordinary

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And I thought the movie focused
quite heavily on that

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But I loved seeing a lot of the

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You know the technological
improvement in the music scene

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Where Ray got his willets

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Or the first eight track
recordings

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And man the guy is just a
musical genius

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And of course seeing Quincy
Jones

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Or actor portraying Quincy Jones

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And part of how that story all
came together

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That was very enjoyable

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So I watched that and also
watched Hitch

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Which is the Will Smith movie

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That was cute

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That was very cute watching that

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It actually inspired me to have
a dirty vodka

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Martini

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With all of us when I got to San
Francisco

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Anyway so I got in around 2
o'clock

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Ron picked me up

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And we had some very important
meetings

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Which unfortunately

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That we've got the no-dam
announcement

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Rule still in effect on that

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But let me tell you this much

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I'll be making a whole bunch of
phone calls today

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And tomorrow and over the
weekend

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To a number of people that we've
been working with

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Over the past months

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And I've got great news to
report to them

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And once everyone's informed

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Then we'll start announcing

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Some of this great stuff that we
have to talk about

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So that we have to talk about

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So I'm very very excited

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It's been great

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But by the time I got back in
the hotel

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It was 11 o'clock

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So I've been up for more than 24
hours

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I didn't have it in me at all

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To create a source code

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Then I had to get up early

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Because actually I didn't just
have to record a source code

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I had to create the podcast

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Ali Top 10

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Which aired today on serious
satellite

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In fact, it's running as we
speak

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Very excited about that

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A lot of good vibes

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And I think it's really for the
serious satellite listeners

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It's going to be exciting

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And what we're working on with
the press department

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And serious is really publishing
this list

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And getting it into several
publications on a regular basis

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So that there can be a wide
distribution of the knowledge

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Of what the top 10 podcasts are

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And what I like about this top
10

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Is it truly is a listener-based
top 10

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Now sure

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People are, you know, enticing

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And begging almost

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Their listeners to go and vote
for them

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And podcast Ali

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But I'm fine with that

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You know, by the way

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I'm not in the top 10

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Dawn and Drew are in there
though

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So if you have a chance

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Look out for that list

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And you can always go to
podcastali.com

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And check it out for yourself

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And vote for your favorite
podcast for sure

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So I did that

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I had to do that

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And I was just two tired

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Two tired

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So I got up Thursday morning

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Around the 630

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I hooked up with PETA

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Who had basically pre-produced
everything

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It was ready to go

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And it was weird

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Because the first thing he said

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When I skyped him as he said

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And if you see the news about
London

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And I'm like, oh, Christ now

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So of course, by now

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We all know about what's

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What's that noise?

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Oh, is that my computer?

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Yeah

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I have the window open

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I'm on the 15th floor of the
hotel

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So you may hear some typical San
Francisco sounds

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In the background

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I'm just

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Oh, that's just work outside

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I guess

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Not hearing someone

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Some working crew

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Ah

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Where was I?

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Okay, so that you know, heard
about the

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The failed bombing attempts in
London

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And so of course

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I immediately hopped on with
Patricia

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And talked to her about it

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And

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Man, this is pretty messed up

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This is

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It's funny, you know

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For years

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I've been watching television
reports

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And news reports

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And we've seen what's been
happening

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In Israel

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And with the suicide bombings
there

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And all of a sudden it's like,
you know, hey

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The world truly has become a
smaller place

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Because

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We've got the same shit here

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And

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Well, not necessarily here

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But in the UK, of course

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We had

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You know, what happens in
September

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11th

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And the world has definitely
changed

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You know

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And there's lots of

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Well, I hope we have some damn
good leaders

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Who can really help us through
these times

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And work on these problems

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And, you know, it's not going to
be

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Travilion

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It may be a problem that we're
stuck with

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For the next 50 years

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But

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You know, I'm no political
analyst

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But I'll tell you

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When it comes down to it

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And the only recourse people
have

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For whatever their frustrations
are

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Is

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Blowing themselves up

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You know, then

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We've got some serious serious
issues

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So

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That said

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Onto the more fun stuff

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To did all that stuff

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That I had to do

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Production-wise

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And by the way, I'm really
enjoying that

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You have no idea how

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Incredibly enjoyable it is to me

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For someone who's been

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Creating radio shows

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Since I was 14 years old

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To have almost come full circle

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You know, I used to do stuff in
my bedroom

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And I'd be recording it

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And then

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Have little transmitters

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And later became bigger
transmitters

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And those were illegal

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And later it was all legalized

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And I was getting paid for it

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And now we're kind of, you know,
back full circle

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And back in the bedroom

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Yeah, now it's all digital

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I don't have turn tables anymore

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But

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You know, it's still in the
bedroom

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And I'm not getting paid for it

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So that's how we've come full
circle

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It's pretty nice

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Let's see

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We had

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Strategy session

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With a couple of people

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Who were out on the west coast

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Operational

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That is for

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For pod show

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Which of course is all based

16:53.200 --> 16:54.200
To part

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I was all a part of the

16:55.200 --> 16:56.200
No Dam announcements

16:56.200 --> 16:58.200
News that I'll just stop talking

16:58.200 --> 17:00.200
About since I'll probably only
make

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Only piss you off that I'm

17:01.200 --> 17:03.200
Teasing it but can't tell you
what it is yet

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But within the next two weeks

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That'll all become very apparent

17:06.200 --> 17:09.200
And one of the important things
that

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I came out for

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Wasn't meeting with Apple

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Now

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I think I told you

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Last time we spoke Tuesday

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That, you know,

17:19.200 --> 17:20.200
Mads Weinstein

17:20.200 --> 17:21.200
Among other people

17:21.200 --> 17:23.200
I've said, well, you know,

17:23.200 --> 17:25.200
Look at what Apple's done

17:25.200 --> 17:26.200
How come you're not

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You know, yelling at the top of
your lungs

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About how they've messed this up

17:30.200 --> 17:32.200
Or haven't done this right or
haven't done that right

17:32.200 --> 17:35.200
And I'll tell you, you know,

17:35.200 --> 17:38.200
That is a, that I think is a

17:38.200 --> 17:40.200
Need jerk reaction

17:40.200 --> 17:42.200
What I really wanted to do

17:42.200 --> 17:45.200
Which, you know, which I was
very happy

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I did is I wanted to go talk to
the people

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At Apple and see what was going
on

17:49.200 --> 17:53.200
And coordinate and find out what
some of the issues were

17:54.200 --> 17:56.200
I tell you

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I was so pleasantly surprised

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When I met with

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Not all but

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Major portion of the iTunes
podcasting team

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And then the iTunes really

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The iTunes music store team

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And some of the engineers

18:12.200 --> 18:15.200
And the strategists and people
working on the directory

18:15.200 --> 18:22.200
We went through all of the
features and services

18:22.200 --> 18:26.200
And processes that the podcast
and community

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Has been working on for over a
year

18:29.200 --> 18:33.200
And some of them Apple just
wasn't aware of

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Or the team just wasn't aware of

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And other ones they actually
were quite aware of

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And have been working on it and,
you know,

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You know what the biggest
problem is

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This is, it's not really a
problem

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But this is so new for a company
like Apple

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To actually they have to kind
of, you know,

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We'll do a couple of interesting
things

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They have to really be listening
to their

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To their customers at this point

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And of course they listen to
their customers

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But their customers have a year
head start

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Which is new for them

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They have to be much more
forthcoming with

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Information

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And they don't have a feedback
loop

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And you know a downstream
feedback loop

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Traditionally always done
through PR and marketing

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And advertising in fact

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And so, you know, to open up a
channel

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It may seem very simple to
think, you know,

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Hey, they should just do a
weblog

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Or they should do a podcast or,
you know,

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Where's the Steve Jobs podcast

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But it's not in the DNA of
companies like Apple

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And what I did see though

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Is they want to program that
into their DNA

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You know, you can almost see
like

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They've got the helix there

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And they're trying to insert
little molecules

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Whatever the heck it is

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And I was really encouraged by
that

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I'll just give you a couple of

19:51.200 --> 19:53.200
A couple of things we talked
about

19:53.200 --> 19:55.200
We talked about opml

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Import and export or
subscription list

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We talked about statistics of
feeds

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We talked about the updating of
the feeds

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We talked about using some
existing infrastructure

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And what we've agreed to

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Is that

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I will

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Well, we agreed to so much

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I really want to try and help
them

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Learn how to communicate into
the community

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And you know, of course I said,
well

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Steve Jobs should do a podcast

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I know if he's going to do a
regular podcast

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But he should give it a whack,
you know

20:30.200 --> 20:33.200
And we should look at how

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How you're building the
directory

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And I have to say

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I was extremely encouraged

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But, you know, don't forget

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There are people inside of
Apple, you know

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And the human beings

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And they're being deluged with
all kinds of

20:49.200 --> 20:51.200
Input from all over the place

20:51.200 --> 20:55.200
From phone calls to, you know,
to emails

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And people who are upset

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Worried pissed off

20:59.200 --> 21:01.200
Disappointed

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I think there are also many who
are extremely happy

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In fact, when I entered the
country

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And I went through customs

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The customs officer looked at me
and said, dude

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I just saw the podcasting tab in
my eye

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And I'm loving it, you know

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So there's a lot of good stuff
there as well

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In fact, I think there's much
more good than that

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It's just, you know, we're a
very vocal community

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And my God, we're actually using
our vocal cords

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So, you know, I guess all I can
tell you

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You have to give it a little
time, you know

21:36.200 --> 21:39.200
Here's a company that has jumped
right into the fray

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They recognize and realize that

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They didn't get everything right

21:44.200 --> 21:47.200
And they have a lot to learn and
they're in learning mode

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And I really am very positive
about that

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And we even talked about content
delivery

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And we talked about Bitcoin

21:56.200 --> 21:58.200
We talked about a whole bunch of
things

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And it's not my position to tell
you what they're doing

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Unless they explicitly tell me
that

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That I can and they've promised
me that as they bring new
features online

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That they're going to start
sending that message out

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And I will gladly help them with
that communication

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So, I'm psyched about it

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I really, really am psyched
about it

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And I was apprehensive, I have
to tell you right up front

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I was like, oh man, you know

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We'll get some of this stuff
right

22:29.200 --> 22:32.200
And I really have a good feeling
about it

22:33.200 --> 22:36.200
And they're also learning about
what makes a good aggregator

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And what people use their feeds
for

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And how important subscription
information is

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As a feedback mechanism to
content producers

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But also, you know, it's some
technical stuff

22:51.200 --> 22:58.200
But I learned a lot about why
feeds weren't updating in a
timely manner

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And there's some infrastructure
stuff there that we talked about

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And I pointed them to some
infrastructure that we've
already created

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Within the podcast in community

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That they can use right now
today to make that better

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And I think it was just, it was
the right conversation

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At the right time

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And I'm excited about what is
going to be coming in the next
couple of weeks

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But make no mistake, it's going
to take time

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Developing software takes time,
developing services takes time

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They have partners that they
work with

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That have to change their
processes as well

23:37.200 --> 23:39.200
Aquaman, I've talked about
Aquaman a lot

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And some of the issues that we
run up against

23:43.200 --> 23:45.200
And this is all new stuff, you
know

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Even content delivery networks
have never really

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I mean, this is when podcasting

23:52.200 --> 23:56.200
You know, I'm going to put this
podcasting has a

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Band with them request curve
that is almost the severe as
when a new

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Windows update comes out, you
know, and all these

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Hundreds of millions of machines
around the world

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Start updating their Windows
software

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This is big, big stuff and even
I'm surprised

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By what this is taking
resource-wise

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And you know what?

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We have a lot of stuff to fix

24:22.200 --> 24:24.200
We have a lot of our damn
announcements

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We'll communicate how we hope to
fix a lot of the issues

24:28.200 --> 24:30.200
One of them being bandwidth

24:30.200 --> 24:33.200
Because, you know, if the case
is

24:33.200 --> 24:38.200
If we have a situation where an
independent podcast

24:38.200 --> 24:42.200
Can't be listed or promoted
through for instance

24:42.200 --> 24:44.200
iTunes or some other big avenue

24:44.200 --> 24:46.200
Because then they run out of
bandwidth

24:46.200 --> 24:48.200
And they basically take it off
the air

24:48.200 --> 24:50.200
Then podcasting is going to fail

24:50.200 --> 24:52.200
It's going to be, well, it's not
going to fail

24:52.200 --> 24:56.200
But it's not the way it should
work

24:56.200 --> 24:58.200
You know, that should not be an
issue

24:58.200 --> 25:01.200
And I think we have some ways to
really help the community

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To make sure that everybody has
a fair shot

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And that everybody can be
pointed to by iTunes

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And not go off the air

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And everybody can enjoy a global
audience

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Jumping on board with them

25:15.200 --> 25:17.200
Oh, that's one thing I want to
mention

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I'm going to skip water here

25:19.200 --> 25:21.200
This is Fiji water

25:21.200 --> 25:25.200
Five blocks of bottle, my
goodness

25:25.200 --> 25:31.200
Something that I didn't, I
wasn't aware

25:31.200 --> 25:35.200
But something that I'm happy to
pass on

25:35.200 --> 25:39.200
The top 10 list on the top 10
podcast list and iTunes

25:39.200 --> 25:41.200
First of all, there's, you know,
there's

25:41.200 --> 25:43.200
I think there's 15 different
countries

25:43.200 --> 25:45.200
So there's 15 different

25:45.200 --> 25:49.200
versions of iTunes, not just the
music store

25:49.200 --> 25:53.200
But also podcasting and
localized top 10 list

25:53.200 --> 25:55.200
So in the Netherlands, you'll
see a different top 10

25:55.200 --> 25:57.200
Then in the UK, which will be a
different top 10

25:57.200 --> 25:59.200
Then in the US

25:59.200 --> 26:03.200
And that is a top 10, which is,
and here it comes

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Just so you know how that works

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Because I don't think that was
explained very well

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It's a top 10 of new
subscriptions

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To podcasts within roughly the
last 24 hours

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So that's why you can see things
shooting up the charts

26:19.200 --> 26:23.200
And it also is really, and I
have to agree with this

26:23.200 --> 26:25.200
It's a pretty fair way of doing
it

26:25.200 --> 26:27.200
I'm no statistician, but it's a
pretty fair way of doing things

26:27.200 --> 26:31.200
So that, you know, when a new
podcast comes online

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Or, you know, it catches on

26:33.200 --> 26:35.200
And people start subscribing to
it

26:35.200 --> 26:37.200
It really will

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Start to

26:39.200 --> 26:41.200
Propagate into the top 10

26:41.200 --> 26:43.200
And by the way, that data also

26:43.200 --> 26:47.200
I believe is going to start to
flow out of Apple

26:47.200 --> 26:49.200
So again, new stuff for them,
new stuff for us

26:49.200 --> 26:53.200
And I'm looking on looking very
much forward to continue

26:53.200 --> 26:55.200
Work with Apple on doing this

26:55.200 --> 26:59.200
So we also released, as you
know, pod finder

26:59.200 --> 27:03.200
2 pod finder 3 will be up on
Tuesday

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And it's funny

27:05.200 --> 27:07.200
I got a wonderful email from

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I think it's Clark Boyd

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Who works in public radio

27:11.200 --> 27:13.200
And also works for the BBC

27:13.200 --> 27:15.200
And he said

27:15.200 --> 27:17.200
And he said, hey, you know, how
come you're not promoting

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Any of the public radio stuff?

27:21.200 --> 27:23.200
Oh my goodness, you know, now

27:23.200 --> 27:27.200
We've been promoting the indie
podcasters so much

27:27.200 --> 27:31.200
Now everyone, sorry, I don't
know what to do

27:31.200 --> 27:35.200
I just want everyone to hear as
many podcasts as possible

27:35.200 --> 27:37.200
Much out there as as humanly
possible

27:37.200 --> 27:39.200
And it's, you know, on serious
satellite

27:39.200 --> 27:41.200
We get four hours a day

27:41.200 --> 27:43.200
On the pod finder, it's, you
know, an hour a week

27:43.200 --> 27:45.200
Or whatever we can make it

27:45.200 --> 27:47.200
And it's about 10 to 15
different podcasts

27:47.200 --> 27:49.200
We're just going to keep on
tracking, keep on promoting

27:49.200 --> 27:51.200
Keep on pushing it out there

27:51.200 --> 27:53.200
Any suggestions, we'll be more
than welcome

27:53.200 --> 27:55.200
Okay

27:55.200 --> 27:57.200
I want to play some music for
you

27:57.200 --> 28:01.200
I was searching through the pod
safe music network

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And came across

28:03.200 --> 28:05.200
Let's see

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From a California

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It's a dream of thought

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I believe is the way you
pronounce it

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Our debut album is titled
Elusive

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Let me see

28:17.200 --> 28:19.200
Her influences

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This is kind of some interesting
info we've got here

28:21.200 --> 28:25.200
Sarah McLaughlin, McLaughlin,
McLaughlin, how do I pronounce
that?

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Toriamos, Coldplay

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You kind of get the picture when
you start to listen to the tune

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And I think you like it

28:31.200 --> 28:33.200
Nightfly, fly

28:33.200 --> 28:35.200
Andryna Thorpe, pod safe

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On your daddy's source code

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And I'm blue, that'll sky

28:39.200 --> 31:16.250
[ Music ]

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on the daily source code,
definitely go over and check out
the Podsafe music network. I was
looking at the, let me go in
there, let me see with the, I
don't get the most pod play. I
was very interesting, because I
really see the system. Let's
see.

31:38.200 --> 32:07.200
Top of the list here, brother
love summertime, we've played
that bill, sound scientist,
transfer how hazardous we are,
brother love with push, I played
that a while while ago, Rob
Costlow still, whoops, second
my, oh man, I want to do that,
my browser just kind of freak
out. Here we go, two era with
filled, another Rob Costlow song
in the top 10, the most pod
play, which is family, haven't
actually played that one before.

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This one, Adrina Thorpe, Fly Fly
Fly Fly, Chan, say what you will
and another Rob Costlow, man,
three Rob Costlow's in the most
played on Podcast. Let me just
see who's playing, so Adrina
Thorpe, I think, can I, I should
be able to go check out and see
who else has played Adrina, home
on a second, let me just check,
oh wait, that's, boy, I'm
missing this all up, aren't I?

32:34.200 --> 32:45.200
There's still a couple of things
that I'd like to work
differently, not everywhere
within the pod safe music
network, is it possible to
immediately go to that band's
page?

32:45.200 --> 33:01.200
I don't think so, I haven't
figured out how to do it, so
hold on, let me see, who's
playing, who else is playing
Adrina? Oh, it's interesting
while I'm searching for this,
hold on a second, so I would
have to play Fly Fly Fly, let's
see.

33:01.200 --> 33:26.200
Oh man, connectivity here is
sucking. Well, while that's
loading, I got a note, it was
actually, wasn't a very polite
note, it kind of said, you know,
dear Adam, very disappointed
that, you know, you haven't
taken the blind casters, the
blind listeners into account on
the pod safe music network,

33:26.200 --> 33:41.200
because the registration process
is not accessible for the blind.
Hey, you know what, we messed
up, but guess what, we fixed it,
or at least we put a fix in that
is workable and did that almost
immediately.

33:41.200 --> 33:59.200
What we got to do is just ask,
you know, not to be too nasty
about it, so hopefully that's
better, and it's, you know, it's
amazing, we all kind of like hit
our forehead, it's going, oh my
God, you know, how, how could we
mess that up, such a sense for
such advocates and, and dude,
this is audio, we should know a
lot better than that.

33:59.200 --> 34:22.200
So that is fixed, got a nice
email from Andrew Sylvester, and
it was, it's just a little
thing, but I thought that I'd
pass it on to you because he, he
said I was, he was listening to
daily source code and heard me
struggle with the Celsius or
centigrade to Fahrenheit
temperature conversion and he
has an easy trick on how to do
that conversion.

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I just want to give it to you
because it's one of those
things, it's real handy, once
you know it, then, you know,
then you can kind of use it
forever.

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So if you want to go from
centigrade to Fahrenheit, you
double it and add 30, so if it's
25 degrees centigrade, you
double it, which would mean it
would be 50 and you add 30,
which mean it would be 80
degrees.

34:41.200 --> 34:53.200
If you want to go the reverse,
all you do is you subtract 30
and then divide it in half, and
then you obviously come up with
the centigrade number.

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Now, it's not completely
accurate, but it does put you
within, you know, like plus or
minus 34 degrees, but it's just
something really handy when
just, you know, you need to know
real quick, and hopefully we'll
get one of those simple ones for
gallons to leaders, one of these
days,

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because man, I'm lost on that as
well, what else did I have?

35:11.200 --> 35:24.200
Oh, Christine, the finished
school, her year is up, so
vacations officially started,
our plans are to go to the
states that I told you the first
week of August.

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August, first actually, Patricia
and I have been invited to a
party, the Playboy UK party in
London, and I've actually been
asked to do a sound seeing tour
of it.

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So, beyond the lookout for that,
I'm pretty excited, but
Christine, I had a great report
card, very excited.

35:45.200 --> 36:04.200
Here's a kid who came into a new
environment, a new country, a
new school, halfway through the
school year, hadn't even had
Spanish ever in her life, which
is one of, you know, which is
language she had to take this
year, and she got her SATs back,
which are very comparable to the
SATs in the US, and she did
fantastic job.

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I'm so incredibly proud of her,
I'm just so proud of her. She's
been great. What a trooper and a
half, she is, really is. Okay,
let's go.

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You're so disgusting with Adam,
you're bringing John, it's time
for the hip-tooth with y'all,
Poles.

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Hey, John.

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Hello?

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Hey Adam, they take this number
49.

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And the clips and answers are
edited by Richard.

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Okay.

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So that means there are a few 70
songs in there as well.

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Yeah.

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And it gets your guys to the
intro.

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Number 1.

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All right.

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Oh, come on.

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This is one of my favorites.

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This is a very easy one.

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That's the motel's suddenly last
summer.

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Suddenly one summer.

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Suddenly last summer, I think it
is.

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And this is number two.

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It's a steely Dan.

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Do it again.

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Oh, this is going to be a fun
one.

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Can't wait to hear the answers.

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And the final one is number
three.

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Oh, yes.

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Of course.

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You can use a congenius.

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We all should know this one.

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That's the Stevie Wonder.

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Superstition.

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I've got my Boeing ready.

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Oops.

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Time's up. This is answer number
one.

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Okay.

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From 1983, the motel.

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Yeah.

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And he does number 49.

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Suddenly, last summer.

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For a short time.

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Oh.

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One summer, never ends.

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It takes all my wings and so
many.

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Last summer.

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Okay. Number two.

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Last summer.

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And so number one.

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The motel.

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And this is answer number two.

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And hit this number 49.

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It's a song from 1972.

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And it's from Steely Dan.

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This is doing it again.

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Yeah. Two for two.

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[ Music ]

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Now we're going to see.

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Steely Dan.

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And number three.

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And this is answer number three.

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From 1973, there's a
superstition.

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Steely Wonder.

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Yep.

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We create.

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What a classic!

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[ Music ]

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Steve you wonder and
superstition well that's it for
hit this number 49 and that
means that next time is

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the match is right magic number
still don't know what I'm gonna
do with that hit test but

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we'll just have to wait and see
I've got to drink a beer I've
got to go get some your

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idol on the road now are gonna
be in a few days well have some
fun in the United States

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I hope you had fun with this hit
test so thank you for playing it
thank you for listening see you
next

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time have a safe trip until next
time bye bye all right thank you
very much Yana thank you a

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Richard and of course Kevin the
announcer guy and he didn't say
at this time but make sure you

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check out the hit test podcast
young pullets very onsite at
youngpullet.com let me see I
think

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we've handled just about
everything well it's the magic
40 minutes I'd say it's time to

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to leave it at that for today's
source code now I'd like to do
another source code over the

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weekend just to catch up after
I've had a little more time to
sort everything out of my Gmail
by

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the way has gone from 6,000 on
red to over 7,000 I'm trying to
cherry pick the best out I
really

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apologize resend if you have to
that is source code gonna be
found at dailysourcecode.com

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still haven't moved those sites
so we're but you might have
noticed a little bit of

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performance increase in
curry.com and I potter.org so we
are definitely working on some
stuff

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and we've I've been working with
Marcus and we really worked out
a whole bunch of strategies for
the

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server move trying to keep
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you we'd invest in it and we
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and by the way the idea of
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bet you we're gonna do it so
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so that's also when you upgrade
just upgrade the whole damn
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