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Delta share a Charlie 216.

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Something remarkable is
happening here.

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Radio is springing free of the
regulated gatekeepers who've
managed what you can hear since

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radio is invented.

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It's jumping into the hands of
anyone at all with something or
nothing to say.

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$16 million worth of airplane
strapped to my ass.

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Than the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying you
to the future.

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The date is July 28, 2005.

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This is your daily source code.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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It is human.

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That's what you know, I always
like to give you the weather
report the beginning of the
show.

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It's nice and humid today.

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Got the Converre Rollin here
throwing more humidity into the
air, but at least it's cool air,
right?

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As opposed to a dry heat.

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Hey, let's do a source code.

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I'm ready.

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Actually, I'm far from ready.

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I just kind of threw some stuff
together and said, you know,
fuck it.

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Hit record.

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Let's go.

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Which is always my favorite kind
of show.

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Kind of gives that feel like I
used to have on the radio where
you got to start, right?

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You, you can't do any more
preparation.

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You've got to start when the
time rolls around, so I kind of
have to self impose starting
time.

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I've got to play some pod safe
music for you.

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I've got some cool audio
feedback that I wanted to share.

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And I finally did it.

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I hit 100% on Gmail.

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I guess I have to stop
soliciting audio feedback as
attachments.

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That's just not working for me.

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So, so much for my theory that
Gmail is actually looking at my
account to see if it's time to
add some into the infinity plus
one pod.

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Well, it's actually funny
because you can go over your
100% allotment on incoming.

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It'll actually go to 101 or
102%.

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But then if you reply, it won't
let you reply.

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I'll tell you that you've gone
over your code.

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So, I did something I really
hate to do, but I went in and I
trashed a couple of attachments.

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I trashed the backtracks podcast
and a couple of hit tests.

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I hate that.

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I hate that.

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But okay.

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Hey, ain't that big of a deal.

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I'm still loving Gmail.

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It's still the way for me to
manage my information as best as
possible.

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Current count, 7,234 unread
messages and not quite too pro.

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And released or anything like
that, which is such a shame.

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That just proves why the pod
save music network is becoming
such a huge success.

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By the way, do you hear about
this about the Sony $10 million
fine they had to pay for the pay
for play?

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This is Eliot Spitzer in New
York, the General Attorney
General I should say.

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I guess he sued them or took
them into court or whatever.

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Lots of people are asking me,
you know, well, we used to call
this payola, right?

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And it was supposed to be over.

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And let me tell you, this is, it
never went away.

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This has been going on for
years.

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But it's not like this jockies
are being paid everything or
anything at all because

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This jockies don't even choose
the music that's played.

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This is done between program
directors, music directors, and
it's done by something

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called independent promoters
primarily.

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I don't want to, you know, pay
anyone black here, but, you
know, that's actually a Dutch
expression

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that may have come out wrong.

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But it happens with all kinds of
things.

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You know, it's, I don't think
there's actually a bribe
involved or, you know, everyone
has a deal with

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They say, okay, I'll play this
song or I'll put it into
rotation if you pay me X.

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But it happens with, you know,
okay, concert tickets, fun
rides, you know, a trip, stuff
like that.

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And it's been going on forever.

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And that's exactly how the music
industry has worked.

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This is exactly how it's worked.

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It's no surprise whatsoever.

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And they consume every single
radio station that plays music
in the United States.

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New music that is, because I
don't think it really, I don't
think you can attribute

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that to stations that play
oldies.

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But, you know, really, it's a
part of the new music marketing
machine.

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And it's just the way it works.

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And it varies from very simply
innocent stuff like, hey, you
know, we promised that, you
know,

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X will come to visit your
station and come on the morning
show if you add the record.

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MTV has been doing this for
years.

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You know, it's like, yeah,
Michael Jackson.

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I've been a part of these deals
where he'll perform on the
video, musical,

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he'll perform on the video,
musical awards.

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If you do a Michael Jackson
weekend, you know, when he
coincidentally has a new record
out.

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I mean, this, this stuff has
always been there.

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It's the way it works.

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Which is why I like the podcast
music network because there is
no pay for play involved in
here.

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I mean, I guess technically you
could happen.

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But first of all, people could
be up front about it.

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You know, and there's no laws
against it.

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But it's not that exciting
because what we're doing was
we're playing stuff.

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We'd like and we're playing
stuff that other people are
playing the game's traction.

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So it's much more fair.

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And if you check out the
podcast, music network, I can't
promote this enough,

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because it really is working and
it's fantastic.

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You know, we have now the
promotion for songs.

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We have a place that we can send
listeners of podcasts back to to
learn more about the band.

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And you can pretty soon we're
going to open up the store.

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So you can buy it directly
online when you get to the
podcast music network.

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That's music dot pod show dot
com.

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Oh, if you want to remember that
way, or pod safe music network
dot com,

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which is a little bit more
typing, but it's, it can also
remember it.

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And I want to go through some of
the Gmail here that I've been
receiving.

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Thomas Jeffrey sent me an email.
He said he called his brother
who works for TSA.

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And the only lock that he knows
of that they have the master key
for is the travel century line
of locks.

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And this is interesting.

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He said, if your lock isn't one
of these, then you might have
gotten ripped off by a company
selling you something

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under the guys of being TSA
accessible.

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Well, let me tell you, the
airport is full of locks that
are TSA accessible.

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This was sold to me as a part of
a to me, which is a very
expensive suitcase.

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They have like 800 bucks for
this suitcase, which is supposed
to be indestructible by the way.

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And so far so good.

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And it had big white TSA letters
on it.

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TSA key number 002.

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You know, it can't be more clear
than that.

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I've traveled with it several
times without an issue.

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But I think that, you know, some
guys are just like snip happy,
you know.

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Let me snip something.

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So of course I don't know if
there's any other branding on
the lock because it's been cut
off

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and it's gone.

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But I do know that, you know,
they're expensive.

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And I know that the price of
this bag was expensive and that
the lock was definitely a part
of the price.

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So Tom, I'm not sure what it
was, but if it says TSA 002,
that would pretty much mean it's
a TSA lock.

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Has a special, it's a
combination lock, but it's a
special place.

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We can insert the TSA key.

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And, you know, somewhere there's
something being scammed.

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So I'd love to know more about
that.

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If anyone can point to an online
resource, a travel centri
apparently and that's a travel

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centri.org has the only real
official locks according to Tom
and his brother.

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So be on the lookout for scams
in that regard.

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It doesn't really, it does
bother me.

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I don't mind people going
through my shit.

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You know, I understand that and
it's all from my protections
well.

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So that makes sense.

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But I want it to be locked up,
you know.

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So I'm playing the game fairly
because how many times have been
ripped off because airport
employees

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have been able to get into my
bag?

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You know, that's a problem.

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So that said, I'm sure I'll get
lots of email about that.

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And who knows, they will come up
with some real information,
something we can

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can use because I'm sure a lot
of people are going through
these issues.

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Daily source code, audio,
feedback.

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Hi Adam.

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I don't know what the British
told you.

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I didn't catch that podcast, but
there are a few little details
about the highway

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numbering system that we need to
get straight out.

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One is that, yes, it was a plan
conceived and started by
President Eisenhower,

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but interesting to note that the
main purpose of it was

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stated to be for expedient
movement of military vehicles
and troops and for evacuation of
the citizens.

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Remember that this whole idea
was brought together during
those fun fill days of the Cold
War,

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and we all had global
thermonuclear war a little bit
more to the forefront of our
minds.

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Anyway, don't confuse US highway
numbers with interstate highway
numbers.

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US one, in fact, is on the east
coast.

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But the other things that you
point out are pretty much true
that the odd number

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of interstates run north and
south, and they start the
numbering from the west coast to
the east coast.

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So I find runs up and down the
west coast and I 95 runs up and
down the east coast,

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and that the even numbered ones
are run east to west.

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I tend to be in a long the
bottom and I 94 go across the
top.

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But it's useful to think of them
more in terms of running south
to north and west to east,

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because that's the way the mile
marker numbers run.

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As soon as you cross over a
state border going from the
south to the north,

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the numbering starts again at
one, and similarly going from
west to east,

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when you cross over a state
border and the mile marker
numbers restart at every state
line,

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you'll start at mile marker one.

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So if you were to drive there
from California over to Las
Vegas,

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as soon as you would cross over
the state line in Nevada,

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you'd see mile marker number
one.

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And while I have you, I want to
wish you the half of the rest of
the 100 million gathering

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marchers and a really, really
big thank you for all the hard
work you're doing.

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This podcasting stuff is really
great, and all this techno stuff
is just cool.

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So there, I'm stronger Jim and
the big blue 18 wheeler and
that's the view for my left
seat.

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Thanks a lot at him, bye-bye.

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Hi Joe, content that will make
you walk the job and kiss your
mother.

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So what I wanted there really
was another fun field history
fact about the USA young

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the daily source code.

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Cool man, from the 18 wheeler,
rockin' really appreciated.

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That's very, very cool.

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I'm warning some geek stuff
coming up,

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I want to talk about bandwidth
again.

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So do you hear that, by the way,
this crackling?

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I think I've overused my mixer
hole on.

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It was crack, there it is.

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I guess the microphone fader is,
there it goes, shit.

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I got to get some of that spray
stuff and that basically means
the end of the mixer.

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But they're so cheap these days.

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What I pay for this mixer, like
150 bucks or something like
that.

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And I have to get another set up
for the condo, the Curry Condo
and San Francisco.

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Yeah, it's going to be basically
one big recording studio.

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Patricia said something funny
today.

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She said, you know, for the
fridge used to have some bottled
water always there and some
bottles of champagne.

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It's like bottles of champagne.

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She said, well, yeah, you know,
that's what, that's what every
condo should have.

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I was like, well, for who?

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Or it's just for me when I'm
sitting there, I'm inviting all
kinds of people to come on over
and hang out.

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I played this yesterday.

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I think I got to play it a
couple more times.

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I just can't get it out of my
head, man.

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I am digging this song so much.

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It's pod save music.

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You can find it on the pod save
music network.

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It is our anthem.

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And mine at least.

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Cruise box.

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[ Music ]

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The revolution is on until the
FCC to stick it.

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Kick it.

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Hurt it on the podcast.

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That is cruise box.

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You can find them in music.

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The podcast.

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You can find them in music.

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The podcast.

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Music.

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The podcast.

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And you know it's so cool about
what we're doing here.

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Radio in New York actually coast
to coast with my syndicated show

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Once in a while you'd receive
you know a platinum record or a
gold record on behalf of the you
know the band

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Thanking you for your
contribution. I have a lot of
them hanging up in my office
because you know, it looks cool,
right?

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There's no doubt about it, but
it's not really from the artist
themselves

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It's from the record company and

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That's a part of that, you know
that whole thing I was talking
about concert tickets and
everything is like, you know

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Oops, oh my Mike Stan just sorry
about that my Mike Stan just
collapsed

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You know, it's kind of like hey,
you know, thanks for helping out
and which of course means next
time around Lee help us out as
well

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You know, I shall take a picture
of one of them. You know, I got
my my MDA here. I'll take a
picture of

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The one I got from arrows Smith
hold on

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All right, so I took a picture
I'll post that up there

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Great, you see my reflection
there, but even though I know
that it's well meant and and
actually when Cristina was born

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All of Aros Smith sent a nice
little no-dover and
congratulated depotrition eye,
but

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I got emails from the guys from
cruise box, you know, and that
was really nice. They didn't
have to do that

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And you know, they're just as
jazz as I am. Oops. What's this?

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Hold on

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Okay, so I got that that's the
me. That's my 15 minute warning.
Hey, this MDA is really greatest
controlling my life

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I'm totally digging it

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Let me see, so I do the geeky
thing now now I do one more
audio feedback and then I'll
talk some geek stuff about

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Bandwidth. Hey Adam Mark Prince
here from the coffee geek
podcast and I'm sitting here in
b

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All Vancouver British Columbia
listening to the daily source
code as I do every day. Now here
in Vancouver

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We're known for the

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Stuff but personally I don't
partake however I am sitting
here right now drinking a vodka
martini made with Sirrock

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vodka and that's kind of my fix.
I hope you understand hope you
don't mind

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What the hell am I talking
about? I run the coffee podcast
wait Adam my fix my daily fix is
actually a nice shot of a
espresso made with Yemen mocha

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How about some Ethiopian horror
how about some Sadamo and we'll
finish it off

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Let's go to additional we'll
finish it off a little Java all
blended together making an
awesome shot of espresso

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And I just wanted to send a
shout out say I really
appreciate your podcast

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I really appreciate everything
you do for the community.
There's a lot of lot of player
haters out there

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But I certainly am not one of
them you are the pod father and
I bow I'm bowing to Adam Curry

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I know this is radio and we
can't see it right now, but
that's what I'm doing and I'm
keep up the great work

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Keep going with the daily source
code keep doing what you do man

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You got true believers out there
and I really appreciate
everything you do for the
podcast community

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No, that's so nice. Thank you
very much. You can tell that I
yeah

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I found out by the way what all
that cutting out is on it's not
really mega-seg that is the
issue

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it's whenever I have a

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Network share on my desktop
that's when

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What happens is I think the Mac
is trying to recent can make
sure everything's still
connected and if it's a network
server somewhere

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Then it takes a couple seconds
to actually find it depending on
the the connectivity and the
bandwidth and all that stuff

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So speaking of that here we go

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Now whenever I talk about this
issue, I get all kinds of you
know a bit torrent like
solutions, et cetera

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But I you know for the people
who understand bandwidth

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For those of you that don't I I
just want to talk about

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The two there are two types of
bandwidth that we need for pod
casting and this has really been
the epiphany that I've come up
with

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That's saved by the bell or
ruined by the bell hold on

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Oh, I know this is home

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Hey, Chris

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Hey, I'm in the middle of the
source code. Can I call you
right back?

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Okay, I'll call you back in in
like 20 minutes

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Okay, I'll call you later

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Bye

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Had the phone's gonna ring
again. I'm sure for my father
clock anyway

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Two types of bandwidth

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The the bandwidth on which pod
casting was originally conceived
really dealt more from the
consumer side

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And the concept was you're
streaming sucks and why does
streaming suck because

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There's really not enough
bandwidth primarily on the
receiving end although it's
gotten much better to have a
full blown at the time

23:50.400 --> 23:52.400
We're thinking of full screen
experience

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Although these days it's you
know just getting an audio file
you can you can pretty much get
that in real time

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So when you click on the link
and you're kind of downloading
it your player will
automatically start playing it
once it has an update

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It to do that and it kind of
figures out what's the rate of
download? Yeah, I can start
playing now it buffers a little
bit

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But that's almost instantaneous
the idea was that even if you
had a shitty connection

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Now, of course, it's reverse
because there's so many pod
people who want to listen to
podcasts that the the sending
ban with becomes the problem

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It's not a problem if

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If you're subscribed to a
podcast because even if it's
coming in at two kilobits per
second, which is definitely not
enough to just to play it in
real time

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It'll get there and it may take
10 minutes or it may take 15
minutes, but it'll get there.
It'll get to your computer

24:39.120 --> 24:43.440
And you don't know that you're
waiting for it and it doesn't
hurt you because it's happening
in the background

24:43.440 --> 24:48.000
You know your iTunes is doing it
your iPod or is doing it
whatever and as long as these

24:48.880 --> 24:53.520
Pod captures are smart enough
that you know if the connection
stops for a second to wait or if
it breaks

24:53.520 --> 24:55.040
It goes back and tries it again

24:55.280 --> 24:58.880
It'll eventually get there that
is the whole concept of
originally again

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It was from the consumer side,
but now we have enough ban with
we've run into another problem

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Whereas there's so many people
hitting this stuff in real time
that you need you know like real
time

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quality bandwidth so

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What you what you almost need to
have is

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a link for

25:18.400 --> 25:23.280
For someone who wants to odd you
know just browse a show and
listen and say is this something
that I want to listen to

25:24.720 --> 25:29.760
And a separate link for someone
who subscribes and it downloads
slowly in the background

25:30.400 --> 25:36.320
So really I'm now looking at
almost a non technological fix.
I'm thinking more maybe we need
to

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Have a way or it's you know
change our production processes
or basically change whatever
link you have on your home page

25:44.960 --> 25:49.040
So that high quality ban with
stuff that'll deliver in real
time

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Is coming from a different
source and

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Over time as more people learn
about the subscription process

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It's going to get much better.
So there's going to be a shift
now another thing we could do is
we could

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For the real-time ban with we
could you know people just want
to find out about a show

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We could all make promos and
post those now of course the the
biggest issue that we have now
is iTunes because

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Although items let you subscribe
and there is a caching

26:17.520 --> 26:21.520
For good or for bad there's
caching of your RSS feeds which
isn't a huge server load

26:22.080 --> 26:26.320
What a lot of people do is say
hey. Oh, this is a great
podcast. They find it somewhere
double-click

26:26.560 --> 26:32.160
It's coming straight from your
server and they want and people
have come to expect a real-time
full-blown experience

26:32.160 --> 26:38.880
Which is getting harder to
deliver not necessary that the
technology isn't there, but the
cost is is very high

26:40.240 --> 26:48.320
So you know right now you're
looking at for daily source code
and an average cost of 30 cents
per person who listens to this
in real time

26:48.800 --> 26:53.680
Now you don't want to blow off
your listeners by not providing
a way for them to get it
immediately

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But there's all you know,
there's a social change that we
have to go through either that
or maybe the direct links would
be bit torn only

27:00.640 --> 27:05.280
You know, so I'm working through
all these issues. That's
actually what my five o'clock
phone call is about so

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There's a lot of stuff to think
about there

27:08.000 --> 27:13.600
One thing I know for sure is
that what we can't do we can't
reverse engineered and say oh,
you know

27:13.920 --> 27:19.120
Put a helper app in or you know
even bit torn has has drawbacks.
It really does because

27:19.680 --> 27:25.200
inherently and this has been
explained to me by people much
smarter and much more
knowledgeable than I am
certainly on this topic

27:27.280 --> 27:31.520
It's not that hard to hijack bit
torrents

27:32.320 --> 27:36.160
You know at a bite or a frame
level or whatever the heck it is

27:36.240 --> 27:40.000
So you may be think you're
downloading an MP3, but it could
be a virus or some

27:40.400 --> 27:45.120
Spyware or some other program
which inevitably is going to
happen because that's just a
nature of people

27:46.000 --> 27:52.480
So I'm thinking about kind of
that social change and how can
we get more people? How can we
incentivize people to subscribe
and

27:53.360 --> 27:56.480
Because basically you're hurting
the you know the podcaster when

27:57.760 --> 28:00.000
When you're trying to get this
in real time and

28:00.480 --> 28:04.800
This isn't an issue if you have
10 people maybe subscribe to
your podcast, but the minute you

28:05.440 --> 28:10.400
The minute you gain traction and
more people start to listen you
start to get penalized and that
is bad

28:10.400 --> 28:13.760
So we definitely want to change
that behavior so getting more
people subscribed

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Making it easier for them to
subscribe and creating an
infrastructure of low quality
bandwidth

28:19.440 --> 28:25.200
I mean, I'm even now looking at
releasing the source code at a
different time of day just
because ban with the night is is

28:26.480 --> 28:30.880
While there's less being used
therefore I could put that in a
different infrastructure

28:30.880 --> 28:34.880
So lots and lots of stuff to
think about and I just wanted to
mention that here briefly

28:35.520 --> 28:40.640
So that smart people who listen
to the show could think with me,
maybe we'll come up with some
cool solutions

28:40.640 --> 28:46.640
Most of our high spots were
coming to us now by TV serious
central not this one serious 148
Adam Curry's

28:46.640 --> 28:50.080
Odd show experience the
unexpected tell the world

28:50.640 --> 28:52.640
Tell us to everybody for
whatever they are

28:52.960 --> 28:56.160
serious central 148. I was just
looking through

28:56.800 --> 28:59.760
Let me see if there's anything
else we want to talk about that
came through on email

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Now, I think we're just gonna
leave it like that

29:03.120 --> 29:05.120
Keep the feedback coming

29:05.280 --> 29:09.280
If you could go a little light
on the attachments for the next
couple of days

29:09.680 --> 29:15.040
As my trash starts to empty out
on Gmail and hopefully the size
of the inbox will start to
increase a bit

29:15.120 --> 29:19.120
You can always put and you know,
just post a link that always is
very helpful and

29:19.600 --> 29:21.440
Much appreciated if you have a
promo

29:21.440 --> 29:23.040
I send it off to

29:23.040 --> 29:27.920
Submit at podshow.com if you got
a mashup send it to mashup at
podshow.com

29:27.920 --> 29:34.160
And if it's pod safe music
submitted over at the pod safe
music network or send it to
podsafe at podshow.com

29:34.160 --> 29:36.000
And that'll be it for today's
source code

29:36.960 --> 29:38.960
30 minutes on the nose

29:41.200 --> 29:46.320
Perfect so now my call can come
in I can call Chris back up load
this sucker

29:47.840 --> 29:53.680
And tomorrow we'll have another
full blown daily source code
will have some more promo's pod
safe music

29:53.680 --> 29:57.680
I think I'm gonna have to play
clone box again though because
man I'm really loving that song

29:57.760 --> 30:04.640
So I can't stress enough, but
I'd really like you to subscribe
to this show

30:04.640 --> 30:07.520
I know that you're impatient you
sit there clicking on

30:08.240 --> 30:12.480
Non-existent URLs trying to
guess what the file name will be
for today's shows

30:12.480 --> 30:14.240
So you can get it as soon as
it's released

30:14.240 --> 30:16.640
But I really would like you to
subscribe

30:16.880 --> 30:18.880
You can go to
dailysourcecode.com

30:18.880 --> 30:23.120
That's where you'll find the
subscription URL or head on over
to iindepotter.org

30:23.760 --> 30:26.880
I'm gonna put that new banner on
pretty soon got a really nice
banner

30:27.760 --> 30:32.640
And of course there's
podcastali.com where you can
learn all about podcasting how
to subscribe

30:32.640 --> 30:35.760
What applications do you use and
what great shows are out there?

30:40.560 --> 30:46.160
www.curry.com is my website my
weblog it's where you can leave
comments

30:47.520 --> 30:51.200
And it's also where I post other
stuff once in a while just
what's going on

30:51.200 --> 30:53.360
I'll post this picture of the
arrowsmith

30:53.680 --> 30:59.520
What was that it's platinum I
guess for 4 million copies sold
that was a pump there you go

31:00.960 --> 31:04.080
And of course my address is at
um at curry.com

31:04.800 --> 31:09.120
Hope the weather holds up where
you are hope you're not in too
much of a heatwave as you live
in the states

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Or if it's not too wet where you
are in Europe

31:14.560 --> 31:17.040
Talk to you tomorrow stay
subscribed

31:17.040 --> 31:19.040
Thanks everybody bye bye

31:24.320 --> 31:26.320
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