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And I'll just share it Charlie
two, three, five, and good
morning everybody.

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If you're in the United States,
hope you're enjoying your
extended holiday weekend.

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It is Monday.

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Today is the fifth of September,
2005, and I am going to be
leaving the cottage in just

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about an hour and a half on my
way to New York for a couple of
days.

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I'm taking the portable
workstation with me, so I'll be
able to bring you hopefully a

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full-blown daily source code
every single day, except for
today, and today being

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a holiday, I figured I'd do
something a little bit
different.

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I am going to relinquish my feed
and my time to something that is
going to come to us

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from the pod show headquarters
in San Francisco, California.

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We now switch over to Michael
Butler.

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I'm here with Ron Bloom, and
what's the other person's name?

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Brian Longus.

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Brian Longus.

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My name is Michael Butler.

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Hey, Michael.

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So what are we doing here right
now?

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Well, we're here at the offices,
the entry offices of
podshow.com, and when it started

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a couple of weeks ago, it was an
empty space, it's now full of
very talented people.

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And as we grow our company, we
realize that podshow has some
more needs and a couple

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of areas, and we want to talk
about it, so we're creating our
first job cast.

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Now, what's a job cast anyway?

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So job cast is when Brian
Longus, who's ahead of
operations, starts to pull
together,

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a list of the kind of talent
we're looking for over here, and
we sort of support the links

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that you would normally see on a
website, on a website, you would
see a typical company,

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you would see something like job
inquiries or employment
opportunities, and we think
that's

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a little boring, actually we
kind of think it sucks, and
we're appealing to a different

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type of person.

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We want innovators, hustler,
starters, dreamers,
entrepreneurs, really motivated
people,

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and we're starting with some
opportunities to round out our
engineering side, and there,

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we wanted to make sure we let
these engineers know that over
here, we think that they're

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sort of the undredties and the
superstars and the heroes of the
whole podshow organization

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along with those podcasters, and
we want to make sure that the
quality of engineering
management

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that we get are sort of driven
and dedicated people.

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That's number one.

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Number two, if we were to go any
farther, we wanted to talk about
something because this

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first job cast is coming out at
a time of deep concern for a
good part of the United

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States as a result of Hurricane
Katrina, and I know you're a
Florida fella.

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Yeah, you're from Florida, but
we had hurricanes all the time.

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Yeah, hurricane suck, and this
one's such a really bad, and for
for anyone who thinks that I

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read something that people, a
lot of people are not familiar
with that coastline down there,

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it's it's it's beautiful,
incredible place full of
warmhearted people, it's the
birth

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of music as we know at the
United States and then fluency
entire world, so we're
supporting

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giving of yourself and giving of
your time, but also giving of
your money, we thought

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about putting up our own fund,
but it's just too complicated.

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So we're driving people to just
go right to the redcross at
redcross.org, we're going

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to make a contribution as a
company and individuals.

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We have links on the websites,
podcasts, there's a put you made
a promo, didn't you?

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Yeah, I made one last night, I
knew a lot of people have, and
just about why not

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everyone, but a lot of podcasts
are not putting banners on their
site, and you can actually

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make a donation through PayPal,
I believe.

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They probably great.

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Anyway, you can do it, please do
it.

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If we can help you let us know
if you're a podcaster, and you
want to run somebody else's

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promo send us an email, and
maybe we can mix them and people
can have a little more

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excitement about it, but we sure
support it, and please do a good
deed and find your

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way to the redcross.org or
anyone else you think that you
would rather support.

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That city is like one of the
greatest cities in the country
too, and it's like pretty much

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destroyed under water.

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And from those of you who have
lived through that in the
economic times when you were
economically

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underwater, imagine your whole
life just basically being
flooded, and that's what's

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happened to those people.

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And there's every single one of
them down there are brave, and
they're going to require

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all the help we can give them,
so please reach down deep and
help them.

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All right, so that brought the
job cast to a kind of a bummer
section, but let's pick

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it back up.

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Okay, if you're an engineer, and
if you're the engineer, and if
you know how to create

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the best programming, the best,
you know, with the best and fun
people in the world.

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What kind of engineer are you
talking about?

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Audio engineer.

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Right now we're focusing, I want
to actually introduce you to
Brian Logas, our director

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of operations, Brian, how's your
podcast coming, Brian?

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I think pretty well.

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What's the name of it?

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We're working on it.

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I'm thinking about it.

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So you're a behind-the-scenes
guy here at Podge.

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Yeah, behind-the-scenes,
engineering, operations,
everything, and you are a CEO of
your own

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company prior to this, right?

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Yep, not too long ago, about
four years ago.

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And as I recall, because I was
down there, you had a big old
offices in Washington, you

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were having, you had all kinds
of SQL servers, serving up all
kinds of stuff, a couple

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of million registered users, I
think you had a couple million
registered users.

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Actually, we were number 157 on
the web in terms of tracking.

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That was with PC data online.

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So you were, we had an
incredible site when it came to
traffic.

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I mean, that was these cuffs,
and now we're building it on the
west coast.

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So Brian's out here looking,
he's really running the show of
helping us find this great

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talent.

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What kind of people we're
looking for?

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Well, we've got our A team and
we're looking to grow it.

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So we're looking for software
engineers and database engineers
or all-com designers.

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So let's say we had this A team,
we're putting the band together.

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Do we need, second stringers, do
we need, like, lead guitar
players, lead vocals?

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Do we need front men?

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Yeah, we need front men.

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We need the rock stars.

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We need rock stars.

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Absolutely.

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So what's a rock star in
database programming to you?

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What are those qualifications?

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Someone that's worked in
extremely high transactional
volume.

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We're talking about, you know,
when it comes down to per second
or per minute, the amount

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of transactions is phenomenal.

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Because this site, in what we
do, we've got registrations,
people who come, people who

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register, and the hits to the
database from one person every
time they come could be
phenomenal,

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just on a per page basis.

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And as we're ramping up, and we
bring in millions of millions of
people, it's going

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to come down to optimization and
being able to structure and
design something now, so

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it's ready for tomorrow.

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So you want to guy, a little
gal, guy for us is gender
neutral.

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You want a person who has built
out a larger infrastructure, who
understands, it'd be

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a great, like what Michael said,
who understands what an audio
file is, you know, can

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make a deal with audio.

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It understands how important
that is, and who can sort of
make that connection of bits

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and bytes and sort of get an
understanding of it from the
user perspective.

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Absolutely.

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So you need super senior and
middle-level people, the UDS
person who's run a team before

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or a data person who develop
inside with their own team and
also knows how to work outside

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the company and bring in health
from outside.

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Yeah, we're looking for a little
bit of both.

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So when we're looking for a
senior engineer, senior
architect, that's someone who's
worked

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with, for instance, any modeling
language, like a UML, not only
can they design it in architect,

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but they can also assist with
actually writing the code and
doing some of the work, we
expect

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everyone to wear many hats, many
hats.

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Not just sitting a corner,
they're involved in everything,
and our staff here now, you

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think it's a room for that kind
of, you know, someone who really
is a type A to come in

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and make their mark on the
company, absolutely, and it is a
type A, it's really, this

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is something that's going to
grow with them and grow with us.

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So it's positioned in an ability
for someone to come in now,
really make a difference.

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And I would like to apply,
except for, I don't really have
any skill in that category

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but the job sounds, maybe.

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So how many people you're
looking for anyway?

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We're looking for definitely
two, a senior system architect,
designer, and someone that,

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as Ron pointed out, some of them
can also bring it outside talent
if we need to.

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It's a media company, not a
technology company.

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So we need core people that are
going to be here and help build
an architect for tomorrow.

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And where is here?

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I know where, but tell the
audience to go.

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So we just go and south of
market, actually one hour temp
offices now, and we're moving

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within three, four or five
weeks, I believe.

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We got our space, we got our new
space, we just got to fix it up,
and we're

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waiting, there's a, I don't
know, what is it, a gazillion
square foot office, we have

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in mind for this person.

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It's a gazillion close to a
gazillion because they're big
delivering multiple

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big abides of information, as I
understood it.

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Yeah, big abides is what we're
designing for.

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Okay, so we got a gazillion, a
gazillion square foot campus.

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Nice, there are big screen
televisions with videos playing
all the time.

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Wet bar.

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Wet bar definitely a wet bar.

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Very much.

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So next, over there, you can see
it to the left, next to the
jacuzzi, sometimes

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you miss it because they're lap
pool, they'll chase lounge by
the lap pool.

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We have a skate park in the back
there, if you bring your
skateboards, bring your
skateboard

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to skate, sometimes there's some
traffic, we lend it to the city
of San Francisco.

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So there probably are some
programmers who are skaters, so
maybe if they're, if they're

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into skating, so if they live in
New York, they'd have to
relocate in San Francisco,
obviously,

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you guys.

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We'd help them out.

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If they're the right people, you
know, here's what we discovered.

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Also if you're really talented
and you want to work with us
outside of the city, that's

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a different kind of job we'd
love to hear from you.

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But we found out that if you're
in the same office, the same
physical space, that's where

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the green glow comes from,
that's where you walk down the
hall or in this case, you

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just shout down the hall and you
say, I've got an idea and
someone else goes, I've got

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an answer for that and the next
thing you know, you've got a
little groove thing going and

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you're building stuff.

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And we, in just six weeks, I
mean, we've done some monumental
accomplishments in technology,

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we haven't even been able to
release him yet.

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And it's all coming from the
synergy of people being in the
same space.

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So we're really focused on
people who might want to be out
here with us.

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It's also really high energy and
actually, to your point about
relocating, we've got a

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software engineer driving up
here this weekend, packing up
his youth home, he'll be here

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Monday evening.

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And not to mention, San
Francisco is one of the most
beautiful cities in the world,
besides

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New Orleans, San Francisco is
probably in the top three
tourists destination.

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This is Kevin.

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Probably, yeah.

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And a fact that I can point my
microphone, I think you can see
it over, oh, yeah.

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Nevermind.

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It's a comedian, not only is he
owned the company, it's a
comedian as well.

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All right.

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No, it is an, and I relocated
here just to just help it out,
I'm curious, relocating here

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Brian.

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I relocated here from the youth.

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And you brought with you a
pretty large family, right?

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I've got a big family, twin boys
and a new one two months old.

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So we're in Michael Butler, you
haven't relocated to San
Francisco, but you're going to
be

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relocating into our office,
right, helping us build Pod
Show.

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Yeah, let's hope so.

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That happens.

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You get permission from the CEO
of your organization.

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Why?

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Yeah, the wife has to give me
permission.

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And my CEO approved the move, so
I understand how that works.

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So we, and we've probably got
five or six more people
relocated, and we have a couple

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of guys.

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Like you said, one guy with the
youth, I'll come and end them in
the engineering side, we've

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got another guy relocating from
Virginia, and you San Francisco,
I'd be heard.

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You people down there and
Silicon Valley come on up here
and work for us because the

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community is easy to sit back on
the train and listen to your
iPod and the next thing

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you know, you're in the office.

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And there's, as you can, as you
know, by me, I have super long
hairs.

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If you, if you have feel like a
long hair, a grateful dad or a
rock and roll looking guy,

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you're welcome to come in and
have a job as well as long as
you know how to program.

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Man, would you just be good
people?

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That's right.

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Hair and no hair.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Right.

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But it's a bit, no, be good
people.

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And we want to work as part of
the team.

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We have a lot of fun here.

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We work.

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I'd say we work really hard, but
we have a lot of fun.

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And we, we, the core people that
help build the business.

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They're the rock stars of our
business.

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And in engineering and
programming, it's just as much
reason to, to be respected for
your contribution

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as a, as a number one podcaster
would be.

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So there are all part of the
family.

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Everybody's voice counseling.

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We're looking forward to finding
some great folks.

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So if you're interested, what do
you do, Brian?

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What do they do if they're
interested?

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We've got email address and send
along the resume jobs at
podshow.com.

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That's not going to Steve Jobs
though.

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It's going directly to us.

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It's going directly to us.

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So I should point out our
environment.

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We're a lamp environment.

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Linux Apache MySQL PHP.

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People with CC++ background.

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That sort of thing.

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Anyone who, not only has that
skill set or can learn that
skill set.

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So, so I'd bet right now that
someone will listen to this.

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That is sitting somewhere that
says, you know, I've been
contributing where I am.

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But there's people above me.

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There's people beside me.

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They, they have a destiny in
this company.

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Maybe my destiny someplace else.

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I wanted someone who's done
enough for the place where
they're out and wants to move
along.

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And, uh, I hope they find the
right person to find their way
here.

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And there's a lot of tech
podcasters out there.

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And I would say probably maybe
half of them at least are
probably programs, right?

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Or no somebody.

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And no somebody who fits this
description.

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And that will be ideal guy
because he knows what podcasters
is about.

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And he's into podcasters.

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And, yeah.

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Which is why we have one of the
famous podcasters and most
famous ones in the whole

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Dang business.

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Michael Butler.

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You know, you know.

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Well, that's part of the fun of
the environment.

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You know, last week, C.C.
Chapman was here.

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C.C. Chapman took a break during
the day and did his podcast.

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Chris Rockwell took a break and
used our sound studio.

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The toilet.

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Did his podcast.

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So you've got people coming in
and out Michael Butler's here
today.

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It's an interesting environment.

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It's fun.

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And that's what we're going to
be doing.

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We're going to be launching a,
an online.

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And we're going to be launching
a,

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an online.

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Jobhunt advertising campaign
created by some very strange
people inside our own
organization

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and featuring a person from our
engineering department,

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whose name we will not reveal.

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So you may be on the lookout for
that.

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And I think it's pretty dang
interesting.

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And it shows that we're, we're
just not your ordinary cubicle.

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Not at all.

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Okay.

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I think we wrap it up.

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That's the end of job cast
number one.

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Do we have a theme song?

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I'll find something off the
page.

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You did a job.

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What does that mean?

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I'll find something off the page
safe music network and
music.pidesure.com.

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Plug, plug, plug, plug.

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Thanks for a Michael.

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Thanks so much for coming over
and producing this for us.

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And we hope we didn't worry
about you too much.

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No.

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Thank you.

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No.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Now, all right.

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So, I hope that was,

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even if you're not looking for a
job in San Francisco,

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that was interesting enough to
listen to.

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And another note, you can also
go to podshow.com.

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Obviously for, for the job
openings,

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but also you'll see that
podshow.com slash relief has a
page up

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with public service
announcements cut by podcasters,

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by pod squad members.

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You could upload your own.

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And of course plenty of links to
the red cross

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to donate to the victims of
Hurricane Katrina.

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All right.

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Now to hear, I'm stepping on my
favorite virgin upper class

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to Newyville, York.

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I'll be there this afternoon,

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so I'll be sure to have a
podcast up for Tuesday morning

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as I said, I'm taking the full
gear,

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still to be the first trial by
fire of the digital audio

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workstation and the new setup
and taking everything on the
road.

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So, I'll see tomorrow.

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Enjoy the rest of your holiday
weekend, everybody.

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Those of you that can, and we
pray for the rest who can't.

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Bye-bye.