WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:10.000 Delta Shara Charley 2, 4, 3. 00:10.000 --> 00:20.000 And now, coming to you from high-o-top podshow headquarters in beautiful Newark, Ohio, home of the world's largest basket. 00:20.000 --> 00:28.000 Here at home, hey! 00:28.000 --> 00:32.000 6 million dollars worth of your place wrapped in my ass. 00:32.000 --> 00:33.000 Transmitters? 00:33.000 --> 00:36.000 In the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:36.000 --> 00:39.000 We don't need no sticky and crispy. 00:39.000 --> 00:42.000 I like to think I'm flying you to the future. 00:42.000 --> 00:43.000 Fantastic! 00:43.000 --> 00:44.000 It's Adam Curry. 00:44.000 --> 00:46.000 And it is. 00:46.000 --> 00:47.000 What is it? 00:47.000 --> 00:49.000 It's Wednesday, September 21st, good morning. 00:49.000 --> 00:51.000 How are you? 00:51.000 --> 00:52.000 How are you? 00:52.000 --> 00:57.000 Coming to you directs from Northern California, where it is foggy. 00:57.000 --> 00:58.000 It is German. 00:58.000 --> 00:59.000 Very, very foggy. 00:59.000 --> 01:02.000 It's your daily source code from Curry Condo. 01:02.000 --> 01:05.000 I can barely see the marina today. 01:05.000 --> 01:09.000 It's chilly, but I'm back home kind of. 01:09.000 --> 01:11.000 How are you? 01:11.000 --> 01:14.000 You know, that home, of course, is a very relative statement. 01:14.000 --> 01:17.000 This is home for when I'm out on the west coast. 01:18.000 --> 01:22.000 But it's, as was Ron's wife, Martessa. 01:22.000 --> 01:24.000 Yes, home is where the heart is. 01:24.000 --> 01:28.000 Well, it changes with the time zones. 01:28.000 --> 01:32.000 Back from Chicago, had a lightning round trip to Chicago. 01:32.000 --> 01:35.000 We'll talk about that a little bit today. 01:35.000 --> 01:37.000 And it's early. 01:37.000 --> 01:40.000 It's early for me to do a source code. 01:40.000 --> 01:43.000 It's a five past nine, but we've discussed this, right? 01:43.000 --> 01:50.000 I feel so behind the eight ball on the west coast. 01:50.000 --> 01:59.000 So the plan is on days where on the days that I actually am physically able to record a source code. 01:59.000 --> 02:01.000 I guess I'm just going to have to do it in the morning. 02:01.000 --> 02:03.000 So I haven't had breakfast yet. 02:03.000 --> 02:09.000 I got up at seven, went through the email, which by the way, this is how this is how bad I have. 02:09.000 --> 02:13.000 If now resorted to, basically waking up in the morning and going, oh, yeah, okay. 02:13.000 --> 02:15.000 Let me just check the blackberry for the email. 02:15.000 --> 02:17.000 I sit there and bed. 02:17.000 --> 02:19.000 Which is in some ways very efficient. 02:19.000 --> 02:21.000 It's kind of free to. 02:21.000 --> 02:22.000 Scary. 02:25.000 --> 02:27.000 Alright, to get into the mood and get everybody ready. 02:27.000 --> 02:29.000 Well, I put the coffee maker on. 02:29.000 --> 02:33.000 Ada found another mashup for me, which is just freaking awesome. 02:33.000 --> 02:34.000 I love this one. 02:34.000 --> 02:36.000 It's as he said himself in the email, 02:36.000 --> 02:41.000 there's just no way that these two songs should actually be fitting together. 02:41.000 --> 02:43.000 You like it? 02:43.000 --> 02:45.000 Should I stay or should I fucking? 02:46.250 --> 05:18.750 [ Music ] 05:19.000 --> 05:26.000 That's good before breakfast, should I stay or should I book gay right here on the daily source code? 05:26.000 --> 05:31.000 You know this feels so much like the old days when I was doing pirate radio 05:31.000 --> 05:38.000 Because what I've gotten into at the cottage because she's we were back for like what I was back in the UK for almost a month 05:38.000 --> 05:40.000 Which is pretty much a record for me 05:40.000 --> 05:46.000 You know I resorted into making beautiful outlines and getting everything all set up 05:47.000 --> 05:52.000 And then you really do all the show prep before recording the show which is great because you're so organized 05:52.000 --> 05:57.000 But it does miss kind of a certain element that we used to have at the pirate radio stations 05:57.000 --> 06:03.000 We basically walk in you know five minutes before your shift as we called it and the previous guy was 06:03.000 --> 06:06.000 You know there was spinning his last records or whatever 06:06.000 --> 06:11.000 You might need even been packing up his stuff and getting ready to leave and just put the last record on 06:11.000 --> 06:13.000 Assuming that you'd be in there on time right 06:13.000 --> 06:19.000 And then you'd dive into the record library which in the case of the biggest station biggest pirate radio station 06:19.000 --> 06:22.000 I've worked at was kind of like a closet 06:22.000 --> 06:27.000 And sometimes there would be two or three people in the closet doing other things than checking out our records 06:27.000 --> 06:29.000 And this is oh man, I got an inch under my 06:29.000 --> 06:32.000 Oh, I'm wearing my 06:32.000 --> 06:34.000 My sneakers 06:34.000 --> 06:38.000 Oh, man, oh don't you hate it when you have an inch underneath your foot and you 06:38.000 --> 06:40.000 Oh, man, I couldn't get to it 06:40.000 --> 06:42.000 Oh, that's nice 06:43.000 --> 06:49.000 Anyway, so you just grab like you kind of know what your first record was going to be like, oh, I want to play that this is going to be my first record 06:49.000 --> 06:53.000 Which in my cases usually the mashup of the day if we have a good one 06:53.000 --> 06:58.000 And then you just kind of free wheel it, you know, you play whatever comes and whatever feels right 06:58.000 --> 07:02.000 And so I'm doing a little bit of that and it's really I just I don't have the energy 07:02.000 --> 07:05.000 I'm wanting to to really go through everything meticulously 07:05.000 --> 07:09.000 So I guess what I'm going to have to do is I'm going to have to find someone to help me out to create 07:10.000 --> 07:16.000 To show notes post the show which is complicated because it has to be someone who's available 24 hours 07:16.000 --> 07:22.000 So the minute I'm done with the show, I said listen to the show and write down the show notes and here's the information that I got 07:22.000 --> 07:24.000 So I don't have to figure that one out 07:24.000 --> 07:27.000 In Chicago we 07:27.000 --> 07:30.000 We present it actually have a picture is great 07:30.000 --> 07:34.000 It was Ron and I do this awesome show if I if I can say so myself 07:34.000 --> 07:38.000 Where we have I bring the workstation we've got two computers everything's hooked together 07:38.000 --> 07:42.000 We're both mic we basically do a podcast and and we talk about 07:42.000 --> 07:49.000 Pod show and pod casting and opportunities in the pod safe music network and and how we'd like 07:49.000 --> 07:54.000 Advertisers to think about new ways of advertising and kind of break the mold of the 60 second spot 07:54.000 --> 07:56.000 It's going to be a while you know there 07:56.000 --> 08:01.000 Still pretty traditional in many ways and lots of these advertisers are very excited 08:01.000 --> 08:06.000 By the way, I've told you just before they're so excited because it's so hard for them to reach their audience 08:06.000 --> 08:12.000 Because well shit, we're all listening to MP3 players and iTunes, you know, so our iPods 08:12.000 --> 08:18.000 There it is so the reason I brought that up is because this was the agency that handles the senseo account 08:18.000 --> 08:25.000 And we talked about it in depth, but there was like I didn't get all the senseo love I was expecting 08:25.000 --> 08:28.000 I was like okay, and here's the golden senseo machine 08:29.000 --> 08:35.000 So oops, hold on I got to do the milk froth hold on don't don't go away bear with me. We've done this before 08:35.000 --> 08:39.000 So the coffee's done now we switch the knob and 08:39.000 --> 08:41.000 Whoo 08:41.000 --> 08:43.000 We've got a lot of steam today 08:46.000 --> 08:50.000 Do in my bird you'll think milk again come on straw rock 08:51.000 --> 08:57.000 Somehow frothing in plastic cup just doesn't work as well as in a crockery 08:57.000 --> 09:01.000 Okay, so we kind of 09:01.000 --> 09:05.000 I was rather disappointed, hold on let me just get this ready and when we continue 09:05.000 --> 09:07.000 I got lots of cool stuff to talk about 09:07.000 --> 09:09.000 There we go 09:09.000 --> 09:12.000 Oh yeah, this is coffee 09:13.000 --> 09:16.000 It's the rocket fuel of the industry 09:17.000 --> 09:19.000 Okay, so 09:19.000 --> 09:21.000 Let me go my mic up again there 09:22.000 --> 09:27.000 Despite that we had we had a great meeting 09:27.000 --> 09:31.000 And it was good to be in Chicago I had been in Chicago for 09:31.000 --> 09:34.000 I'm gonna say 10 or 11 years 09:34.000 --> 09:38.000 And I'm amazed at how beautiful the city is 09:38.000 --> 09:41.000 I remember going there before and thinking wow what a beautiful city 09:41.000 --> 09:44.000 There's lots of new buildings and the skyline we came in 09:44.000 --> 09:48.000 Was it Monday evening around a 930 10 o'clock from the airport 09:48.000 --> 09:51.000 It was just so beautiful the skyline was phenomenal 09:53.000 --> 09:55.000 And yeah, it's just 09:55.000 --> 09:58.000 Actually Ron had lived there before 09:58.000 --> 10:02.000 It was one of his previous lives and he said you know the difference between New York 10:02.000 --> 10:05.000 I say this is so nice like every sidewalk is almost like a promenade 10:05.000 --> 10:09.000 And so yeah the big difference between New York and Chicago is the concept of 10:09.000 --> 10:12.000 Alice because in Chicago all the trash 10:12.000 --> 10:16.000 Goes out in the back alley instead of on the on the front sidewalk 10:16.000 --> 10:18.000 And that really ended boy doesn't make a difference 10:18.000 --> 10:22.000 So as I said it's like a promenade the sidewalks are clean 10:22.000 --> 10:25.000 Yeah, it was just it was just really really nice 10:25.000 --> 10:27.000 So got back late last night 10:27.000 --> 10:31.000 It's you know Chicago is just a little bit too far from San Francisco 10:31.000 --> 10:33.000 You might as well go all the way to New York you know 10:33.000 --> 10:36.000 It's maybe it's just an hour an hour further flight 10:36.000 --> 10:41.000 So let's excuse me. Okay, we'll do this and say a plug for that burp 10:41.000 --> 10:44.000 And then I got in last night 10:44.000 --> 10:47.000 Kind of you know through everything down suitcase down 10:47.000 --> 10:50.000 But did crack open the laptop and I think I told you that 10:50.000 --> 10:54.000 Christina had been doing something with Martina 10:54.000 --> 10:56.000 Martina is Michael Butler's daughter 10:56.000 --> 11:00.000 And she has her own podcast called Emo Girl Talk 11:00.000 --> 11:04.000 And I'd wanted to get this a couple days ago because the show was already out 11:04.000 --> 11:07.000 But I guess you put it on a different server 11:07.000 --> 11:09.000 And of course it ran out of bandwidth within three seconds 11:09.000 --> 11:11.000 It's Emo Girl Talk dot com is where you can find the show 11:11.000 --> 11:15.000 And I told Christina I said you know tell Martina to put this on the pod 11:15.000 --> 11:18.000 Show server so that you guys have enough bandwidth and you don't run out 11:18.000 --> 11:22.000 And I listened to the to the show last night 11:22.000 --> 11:25.000 I want to share you know I'll play a little bit of it for you 11:25.000 --> 11:29.000 And I was you know you think you know everything that your kids are into 11:29.000 --> 11:32.000 Right and what they're talking about and what they're listening to 11:33.000 --> 11:35.000 And boy did I get an education 11:35.000 --> 11:37.000 So yeah that was panic at the discount 11:37.000 --> 11:39.000 So Christina 11:39.000 --> 11:41.000 What kind of music do you like 11:42.000 --> 11:45.000 Well I of course like Emo and stuff 11:45.000 --> 11:48.000 I like follow up boy as I like dying 11:48.000 --> 11:51.000 But for my valentine bright eyes 11:51.000 --> 11:53.000 Taking Max Sunday 11:53.000 --> 11:57.000 James and Parker which by the way a really good band 11:57.000 --> 11:59.000 If you haven't heard of them check them out 11:59.000 --> 12:01.000 www.jamisonparker.com 12:01.000 --> 12:03.000 And James and Comington's really hot 12:03.000 --> 12:05.000 So yeah check out that band 12:05.000 --> 12:06.000 Whoa 12:06.000 --> 12:10.000 She just mentioned five bands I've never heard of before in my life 12:10.000 --> 12:11.000 And I was like 12:11.000 --> 12:12.000 Huh 12:12.000 --> 12:16.000 When I get back to the London to the cottage 12:16.000 --> 12:18.000 I got to get an education in this stuff man 12:18.000 --> 12:19.000 She's listening to stuff 12:19.000 --> 12:21.000 I have no idea I've never heard of when I'm very curious 12:21.000 --> 12:23.000 That's heard 12:23.000 --> 12:25.000 I also like 12:25.000 --> 12:28.000 Just basically some rock and some Emo just so much stuff 12:28.000 --> 12:30.000 But you know when you don't feel the Emo mood 12:30.000 --> 12:32.000 Some pop music like Gwen Stefani 12:32.000 --> 12:33.000 Yeah 12:33.000 --> 12:35.000 Pop is our guilty pleasure 12:35.000 --> 12:36.000 Me and Christina 12:36.000 --> 12:37.000 Yeah 12:37.000 --> 12:39.000 Yeah we're poser so 12:39.000 --> 12:41.000 Send us some hate mail 12:41.000 --> 12:43.000 Christina and I have 12:43.000 --> 12:45.000 Long time ago we came to the conclusion 12:45.000 --> 12:46.000 That we were the same person 12:46.000 --> 12:48.000 We have the same pass 12:48.000 --> 12:50.000 When we were about like 12 12:50.000 --> 12:51.000 We thought we were really punk 12:51.000 --> 12:52.000 And we liked our little bit 12:52.000 --> 12:54.000 We thought we were out of the beam too 12:54.000 --> 12:56.000 We had the ties going on 12:56.000 --> 12:58.000 We're secretly a double person 12:58.000 --> 13:00.000 We're Tina to the power of two 13:00.000 --> 13:02.000 And so if you know we're like better than Paris 13:02.000 --> 13:03.000 The power of two 13:03.000 --> 13:04.000 We're taking over 13:04.000 --> 13:05.000 Okay 13:05.000 --> 13:07.000 Emo girl talk dot com 13:07.000 --> 13:09.000 Fantastic show 13:09.000 --> 13:10.000 Some great music on there as well 13:10.000 --> 13:12.000 Just stuff that I've never heard of before 13:12.000 --> 13:14.000 So this is kicking me in the ass 13:14.000 --> 13:16.000 You know like I know what the hell is going on 13:16.000 --> 13:18.000 First of all I don't know what the hell my daughter's listening to 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 That would be one 13:19.000 --> 13:22.000 I never hear the you know she's she's got the iPod on 13:22.000 --> 13:24.000 So of course you don't hear what she's listening to 13:24.000 --> 13:26.000 Or you know 13:26.000 --> 13:28.000 God knows but I am certainly missing out on some tunes 13:28.000 --> 13:32.000 So something a little a little note there to self 13:32.000 --> 13:34.000 Now what I've told you that 13:34.000 --> 13:36.000 I've been using the blackberry 13:36.000 --> 13:38.000 Yes, it's true 13:38.000 --> 13:40.000 It is a crackberry 13:40.000 --> 13:41.000 It is freaking addictive 13:41.000 --> 13:43.000 The whole concept of push email 13:43.000 --> 13:46.000 Which means that you basically you're connected full time 13:46.000 --> 13:48.000 To the network and when an email comes in 13:48.000 --> 13:50.000 It shows up literally 13:50.000 --> 13:52.000 Seconds if not the second later on the blackberry 13:52.000 --> 13:56.000 The keyboard is nice the layout is really good 13:56.000 --> 14:00.000 Once you have this got they've got lots of keyboard shortcuts 14:00.000 --> 14:03.000 Particularly in in the in the message system 14:03.000 --> 14:06.000 So for email works very much like Gmail actually 14:06.000 --> 14:08.000 With the J in the K keys for 14:08.000 --> 14:12.000 Conversations and threads and 14:12.000 --> 14:17.000 I've I've certainly berated friends and colleagues over and over again 14:17.000 --> 14:20.000 For the use of blackberries but I understand it now 14:20.000 --> 14:22.000 It really is true 14:22.000 --> 14:24.000 I miss the I miss the camera 14:24.000 --> 14:26.000 That I have I miss 14:26.000 --> 14:28.000 I miss certain elements of the MDA 14:28.000 --> 14:30.000 Which of course I carry with me right? 14:30.000 --> 14:32.000 I have that in my bag as a backup 14:32.000 --> 14:34.000 And nothing can replace 14:34.000 --> 14:38.000 The beauty of the GPS that runs on the MDA and all that stuff 14:38.000 --> 14:40.000 But just for and also 14:40.000 --> 14:42.000 It has a real sturdy feel 14:42.000 --> 14:44.000 You know it's like you could drive your car over this 14:44.000 --> 14:46.000 No blackberry is still good 14:46.000 --> 14:48.000 Maybe a little bit scratched 14:48.000 --> 14:52.000 And you you can drop it and the cover may pop off 14:52.000 --> 14:56.000 But that's about it. It feels good it slips into the pocket 14:56.000 --> 14:58.000 Nicely very impressed very impressed 14:58.000 --> 15:00.000 But also they've been 15:00.000 --> 15:02.000 They've been making these for like 10 years 15:02.000 --> 15:06.000 So you got to figure that once the executives got hold of it and they started 15:06.000 --> 15:08.000 Provided that I think that this device really was 15:08.000 --> 15:10.000 Built based on user feedback 15:10.000 --> 15:12.000 You know say hey if only could do this boom 15:12.000 --> 15:16.000 There's that feature you know everything that I think would be a perfect feature 15:16.000 --> 15:18.000 Find it and it's in there and 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 And the battery life is also 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 More than more than sufficient 15:24.000 --> 15:26.000 Okay so 15:26.000 --> 15:28.000 Of course what I don't have is 15:28.000 --> 15:32.000 The ease of Gmail's labels 15:32.000 --> 15:35.000 And I know that there's a Gmail mobile application 15:35.000 --> 15:36.000 But it's no good 15:36.000 --> 15:40.000 If it's not push email then it cannot compete no matter what 15:40.000 --> 15:42.000 I'd rather deal with 15:42.000 --> 15:44.000 Searching stuff out later than you know 15:44.000 --> 15:46.000 Then having to log in and wait because it just takes time 15:46.000 --> 15:48.000 You know just trying to get your email 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 You spend an average of 15:50.000 --> 15:54.000 8 or 9 minutes just getting the email and waiting for pages to load 15:54.000 --> 15:58.000 Whereas when everything's on the blackberry goes pretty fast 15:58.000 --> 16:02.000 So I don't have the luxury of being able to tag something as you know for the daily source code 16:02.000 --> 16:06.000 So basically I'm saving messages 16:06.000 --> 16:10.000 That I think are going to be relevant for the show 16:10.000 --> 16:12.000 I'm going to be relevant for the show 16:12.000 --> 16:15.000 And I'm trying to navigate as we speak 16:16.000 --> 16:20.000 Because there's lots of lots of little things that people have been sending me 16:22.000 --> 16:24.000 Hold on a second 16:26.000 --> 16:28.000 Lots of schedules 16:28.000 --> 16:30.000 Okay 16:34.000 --> 16:38.000 Lots of senseo stuff in here, lots of sound 16:38.000 --> 16:40.000 So this is a good one Samuel Fineberg said 16:40.000 --> 16:42.000 You know listen to your daily source code 16:42.000 --> 16:44.000 Heard you were hanging a mirror in your condo 16:44.000 --> 16:46.000 I'm not sure if you thought about it 16:46.000 --> 16:48.000 But usually I use earthquake hangers 16:48.000 --> 16:50.000 Especially when I hang anything heavy or anything 16:50.000 --> 16:52.000 That hangs over a place where people sit or sleep 16:52.000 --> 16:54.000 And he has a link to 16:54.000 --> 16:56.000 To the ones that he uses 16:56.000 --> 16:58.000 That's a very good point I hadn't thought about that 16:58.000 --> 17:00.000 And I think that 17:00.000 --> 17:02.000 Well I really don't know 17:02.000 --> 17:04.000 I mean I hung up this mirror and I think 17:04.000 --> 17:08.000 The the wall fasteners that I use 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 I mean they're not going to come out of the wall anytime soon 17:10.000 --> 17:12.000 But then again I've never been in earthquake and California 17:12.000 --> 17:14.000 So I have no idea 17:14.000 --> 17:16.000 If that you know how severe that can be 17:16.000 --> 17:20.000 But that's it. Thank you very much at a very very good point 17:20.000 --> 17:22.000 Um 17:22.000 --> 17:26.000 Lots of people inviting me to drop by in Chicago 17:26.000 --> 17:28.000 Which I'm in 17:28.000 --> 17:32.000 You know when we do these trips it's just no way I have time to 17:32.000 --> 17:34.000 Pretty tightly scheduled because that's just so much to do 17:34.000 --> 17:38.000 Here in San Francisco that we don't want to 17:38.000 --> 17:40.000 You know we just don't want to 17:40.000 --> 17:42.000 Hang around too long and you know 17:42.000 --> 17:44.000 Hopefully in the future there will be more time as 17:44.000 --> 17:46.000 As I move away a little bit more from the selling 17:46.000 --> 17:50.000 And talking to advertisers into the pure production 17:50.000 --> 17:52.000 And we get some more infrastructure in the production set up 17:52.000 --> 17:54.000 And we'll have time to do some of that 17:54.000 --> 17:56.000 What I did see as I 17:56.000 --> 18:00.000 As I woke up this morning is there is an update for iTunes 18:00.000 --> 18:04.000 Yes five dot o dot one has been released 18:04.000 --> 18:08.000 And haven't been 18:08.000 --> 18:10.000 Been slamming anyone too hard 18:10.000 --> 18:14.000 But I've had some major problems with with iTunes since the 5.0 upgrade 18:14.000 --> 18:16.000 And these are the same problems lots of 18:16.000 --> 18:18.000 But predominantly macusers have seen 18:18.000 --> 18:22.000 Is that you lose all of your podcast subscriptions 18:22.000 --> 18:24.000 And only you have to go resubscribed to stuff 18:24.000 --> 18:28.000 And I think that the engineers that Apple 18:28.000 --> 18:30.000 Or pretty aware that there were some problems 18:30.000 --> 18:34.000 So it's funny the way they can you have in the software update panel 18:34.000 --> 18:38.000 It describes what the update is. I haven't installed it yet 18:38.000 --> 18:42.000 It has iTunes 5 features a new and even more powerful instance search 18:42.000 --> 18:46.000 Including the new search bar which helps you find exactly what you're looking for in iTunes 18:46.000 --> 18:48.000 Or from among 2 million songs on the music store 18:48.000 --> 18:52.000 Folders for organizing playlist and new parental controls 18:52.000 --> 18:54.000 From music music sharing and podcasts 18:54.000 --> 19:00.000 And here comes iTunes 5 dot o dot one features several stability improvements 19:00.000 --> 19:02.000 Over iTunes 5 so good deal guys 19:02.000 --> 19:06.000 I'm sure you can stomp on a couple of those buggies and I will definitely 19:06.000 --> 19:08.000 Report back on that after I've installed it later today 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 This week on the squad cast 19:10.000 --> 19:14.000 Two weeks ago we spoke with you about 19:14.000 --> 19:16.000 Hooking up the iPod 19:16.000 --> 19:18.000 My brother-in-law and I tried to do it tonight 19:18.000 --> 19:20.000 We tried to do the old USB 19:20.000 --> 19:22.000 Securities and you still didn't get it 19:22.000 --> 19:28.000 What what what is your brother? What is his occupation? Why are you guys having so much difficulty here? 19:28.000 --> 19:30.000 He's a florist 19:32.000 --> 19:36.000 Who else makes color arrangements to subject of the five-minute diatribe and otherwise 19:36.000 --> 19:38.000 Handedly run podcast 19:38.000 --> 19:40.000 There comes a sign 19:40.000 --> 19:42.000 Nobody came to my defense here 19:44.000 --> 19:46.000 We all got really quiet after that 19:46.000 --> 19:48.000 I just sit down at the front myself 19:48.000 --> 19:50.000 Patience 19:50.000 --> 19:52.000 Yeah, they're hot. I told you I dated ones 19:52.000 --> 19:54.000 No, no, no 19:54.000 --> 19:56.000 No, we were talking about not calling them orientals 19:56.000 --> 20:00.000 You know that can hard on with a person attached to it 20:00.000 --> 20:01.000 Squad cast 20:01.000 --> 20:02.000 Squad cast 20:02.000 --> 20:04.000 Gmail dot com squad cast 20:04.000 --> 20:05.000 Squad cast 20:05.000 --> 20:07.000 dot com dot com 20:09.000 --> 20:10.000 Hot chill 20:10.000 --> 20:14.000 Content that will make you walk the dog and kiss your mother 20:18.000 --> 20:22.000 Are you addicted to race? 20:22.000 --> 20:24.000 Hi, I'm Jan Chow 20:24.000 --> 20:26.000 And I'm Carmen Vancouver of 20:26.000 --> 20:28.000 And we're co-hosts of addicted to race 20:28.000 --> 20:34.000 A podcast about America's obsession with race with a specific focus on mixed race identity 20:34.000 --> 20:36.000 And interracial relationships 20:36.000 --> 20:40.000 Check us out at www.addictedtorac.com 20:40.000 --> 20:44.000 But then on the other end of the spectrum 20:44.000 --> 20:46.000 It seems like there are other people taking these tests 20:46.000 --> 20:50.000 Hoping to discover some kind of quote unquote 20:50.000 --> 20:52.000 Ethnic background 20:52.000 --> 20:56.000 Because they think that it will bring my flavor to their lives 20:56.000 --> 20:58.000 Totally 20:58.000 --> 21:02.000 But really this whole phenomenon of DNA tests is ridiculous 21:02.000 --> 21:06.000 Apart from the fact that this scientific basis for these tests is very shaky 21:06.000 --> 21:08.000 More on that in a minute 21:08.000 --> 21:12.000 It's this whole realization thing that annoys me so much 21:12.000 --> 21:14.000 We always hear stories of people taking these tests 21:14.000 --> 21:18.000 And there are results that they're supposedly like 6% 21:18.000 --> 21:20.000 Sub-Saharan Africa 21:20.000 --> 21:23.000 And they think it explains all these things in their life 21:23.000 --> 21:24.000 Like 21:24.000 --> 21:28.000 Oh no wonder I was so into that Harlan Renaissance literature class 21:28.000 --> 21:30.000 And politics 21:30.000 --> 21:31.000 Or 21:31.000 --> 21:33.000 Oh no wonder it helps such big lips 21:33.000 --> 21:34.000 Or 21:34.000 --> 21:36.000 Oh no wonder I've always been such a great dancer 21:36.000 --> 21:38.000 And if you're feeling a little offended right now 21:38.000 --> 21:40.000 By what I just said you should 21:40.000 --> 21:42.000 Because that is the point 21:42.000 --> 21:46.000 These so-called realizations that people are trying to tie back 21:46.000 --> 21:48.000 To their supposed black ancestry 21:48.000 --> 21:52.000 But pretty much always based on the worst racist stereotypes 21:52.000 --> 21:54.000 Stuff like all black people have written 21:54.000 --> 21:58.000 Remember that's injected two days 21:58.000 --> 22:02.000 At www.andictedterraise.com 22:02.000 --> 22:06.000 So this promo comes at a very appropriate time 22:06.000 --> 22:08.000 Because we have something to talk about 22:08.000 --> 22:10.000 Regarding race and racism 22:10.000 --> 22:14.000 Now I am not a racist 22:14.000 --> 22:18.000 I am also not politically correct 22:18.000 --> 22:20.000 As you know if you listen to the daily source code 22:20.000 --> 22:22.000 So I call it as I see it 22:22.000 --> 22:26.000 But my parents installed the proper version of software in my brain 22:26.000 --> 22:30.000 And I grew up in the Netherlands 22:30.000 --> 22:34.000 Where a country where two million Jews were annihilated 22:34.000 --> 22:38.000 Ship often trains to concentration camps by Nazis 22:38.000 --> 22:44.000 I went to a very mixed race college 22:44.000 --> 22:46.000 Not for a long time three months 22:46.000 --> 22:48.000 But I was there my roommate Tyree 22:48.000 --> 22:50.000 From Trenton New Jersey was black 22:50.000 --> 22:52.000 I actually pledged 22:52.000 --> 22:54.000 Kappa fraternity 22:54.000 --> 22:56.000 Which is kind of funny 22:56.000 --> 22:58.000 I was the shadow 22:58.000 --> 23:00.000 And I just I see no color 23:00.000 --> 23:01.000 I really don't 23:01.000 --> 23:02.000 But if I see someone who's 23:02.000 --> 23:04.000 As we would say African-American 23:04.000 --> 23:06.000 He's black 23:06.000 --> 23:08.000 You're yellow you're red whatever the fuck 23:08.000 --> 23:10.000 We're all red on the inside 23:10.000 --> 23:12.000 Um 23:12.000 --> 23:14.000 So for me there's uh 23:14.000 --> 23:16.000 I am completely color blind 23:16.000 --> 23:18.000 But you see it you call it 23:18.000 --> 23:22.000 So that's not really what I'm what I want to talk about 23:22.000 --> 23:24.000 We have an issue and this is a community issue 23:24.000 --> 23:26.000 And I want to discuss this with the community 23:26.000 --> 23:28.000 IndiePotter.org as you know 23:28.000 --> 23:30.000 Is a directory 23:30.000 --> 23:34.000 That although we as in podshow operate it 23:35.000 --> 23:37.000 All of the nodes are maintained 23:37.000 --> 23:44.000 Actually the nodes the files themselves are hosted on servers maintained by the node managers 23:44.000 --> 23:48.000 So the content of that I'm basically linking to these nodes 23:48.000 --> 23:51.000 If you look at you know it looks like it's all in one place 23:51.000 --> 23:56.000 Which of course is the point right that's that's the beauty of these OPML distributed directories 23:56.000 --> 24:00.000 And which means that a node can be added or dropped whenever you want 24:00.000 --> 24:03.000 What I can't do is I can't manage what's in the node 24:03.000 --> 24:07.000 Nor do I want to because then you run into huge problems 24:07.000 --> 24:10.000 Basically doing directory management and you need a big staff 24:10.000 --> 24:13.000 We have about a hundred volunteers maintaining these nodes now 24:13.000 --> 24:15.000 Which is the only way it works 24:15.000 --> 24:17.000 Um and usually 24:17.000 --> 24:21.000 When we have some kind of conflict as an easy way to resolve it 24:21.000 --> 24:23.000 The conflicts usually are I can't get into the category 24:23.000 --> 24:25.000 The node manager isn't responsive 24:25.000 --> 24:27.000 Or 24:27.000 --> 24:29.000 People say I don't feel like maintaining it anymore 24:29.000 --> 24:32.000 Can you find someone to take over the node for me 24:32.000 --> 24:35.000 And that's really it doesn't happen very often 24:35.000 --> 24:38.000 But now I got an email from 24:38.000 --> 24:40.000 The podcast shuffle 24:40.000 --> 24:44.000 And he says look I don't think that you should be linking to 24:44.000 --> 24:48.000 This racist podcast and it took me a little while 24:48.000 --> 24:51.000 To understand what exactly was going on 24:51.000 --> 24:54.000 But finally I tracked it all down in the 24:54.000 --> 24:59.000 Politics node which is maintained by guy named Mike Murray 24:59.000 --> 25:03.000 There is a link to the Goi Fire podcast 25:03.000 --> 25:07.000 And that is and I'd listen to it last night 25:07.000 --> 25:09.000 Without a doubt 25:09.000 --> 25:12.000 Um a hate based podcast 25:12.000 --> 25:17.000 So you know personally I don't mind if you call me white honky 25:17.000 --> 25:19.000 You know whatever 25:19.000 --> 25:25.000 But if you say I should die or I don't deserve to be a member of society 25:25.000 --> 25:27.000 Then I do have a problem with it 25:28.000 --> 25:32.000 Then of course on the other end you have free speech 25:32.000 --> 25:39.000 So if I were maintaining a node I would not put this this type of podcast in the node 25:39.000 --> 25:44.000 By the way a daily source code is linked in that category as well 25:44.000 --> 25:47.000 As a political podcast so I don't entirely agree with that 25:47.000 --> 25:50.000 I mean everyone has some kind of political statement sometime 25:50.000 --> 25:54.000 But this show is far from about politics 25:54.000 --> 25:59.000 So now the approach that the podcast shuffle made in email 25:59.000 --> 26:03.000 I didn't like because it was basically saying hey 26:03.000 --> 26:05.000 You know if you don't remove that I'm going to call you out 26:05.000 --> 26:08.000 And I don't think you'd like that if people knew that you were promoting hate 26:08.000 --> 26:10.000 And I'm like whoa whoa whoa whoa 26:10.000 --> 26:14.000 Back up that is not the way to approach this problem 26:14.000 --> 26:18.000 So that's really irrelevant I just want to get that out there 26:18.000 --> 26:21.000 So I listen to the podcast 26:22.000 --> 26:27.000 And it is something I personally do not want to be associated with but I'm not 26:27.000 --> 26:33.000 Indirectly of course we are because indie potter links to this OPML node 26:33.000 --> 26:36.000 Which in turn has a link to this podcast 26:36.000 --> 26:43.000 So I emailed Mike Mike Murray and said you know dude what's your take on this 26:43.000 --> 26:49.000 And actually let me just read the email because I really liked the way he responded 26:50.000 --> 26:54.000 Even though I may not agree with his viewpoint he said 26:54.000 --> 26:59.000 Adam was hoping that situations like this could be avoided when I decided to maintain the politics 26:59.000 --> 27:02.000 node I knew that this would be the node that would have the most potential for controversy 27:02.000 --> 27:05.000 I also thought that it was important that the right to free speech 27:05.000 --> 27:09.000 No matter how offensive some may find it should be given a high priority now 27:09.000 --> 27:13.000 I of course am so this is me Adam speaking I am of course someone who 27:13.000 --> 27:17.000 Finds free speech extremely important 27:18.000 --> 27:21.000 So Mike goes on as to whether that show belongs in the politics node 27:21.000 --> 27:25.000 I think that I question whether it belongs in the in the politics node 27:25.000 --> 27:28.000 Because I didn't hear him talking about politics I heard a lot of hate 27:28.000 --> 27:30.000 Hate talk 27:30.000 --> 27:35.000 He says I think that most people would think of white nationalism as a political movement 27:35.000 --> 27:38.000 Politics is a pretty broad category for example socialism 27:38.000 --> 27:42.000 Though commonly thought of as a political system is really an economic system 27:42.000 --> 27:45.000 But most would agree that a socialist podcast belongs in the politics node 27:45.000 --> 27:47.000 I don't want to get into a battle over semantics 27:47.000 --> 27:51.000 But I want you to understand the way I view this node so that I understand 27:51.000 --> 27:55.000 Here's the part that I think is extremely grown up that Mike wrote 27:55.000 --> 27:58.000 If you feel that this show should not be in the directory 27:58.000 --> 28:01.000 I would ask that you remove me as the maintainer of the node 28:01.000 --> 28:04.000 I don't ask this out of anger or hard feelings 28:04.000 --> 28:09.000 I feel very strongly about free speech and don't want to have to deal with removing feeds when people don't like the content 28:09.000 --> 28:12.000 Let me know if you need the latest copy of the node and I will send it to you 28:12.000 --> 28:16.000 So again that was a extra that's the way this is supposed to work 28:16.000 --> 28:23.000 But now my question to you is where how do we do this? 28:23.000 --> 28:25.000 How do we draw the line? 28:25.000 --> 28:29.000 I know that personally we can do whatever we want 28:29.000 --> 28:34.000 We could basically get a copy of the politics node from Mike 28:34.000 --> 28:37.000 And we could drop that particular link and maintain it 28:37.000 --> 28:40.000 I could maintain it or hand it off to someone else 28:40.000 --> 28:45.000 But I don't want to. I don't know. I want this to be resolved 28:45.000 --> 28:49.000 Or I want us to have some kind of thoughts about how we deal with these things 28:49.000 --> 28:52.000 And you know at what point? 28:52.000 --> 28:55.000 Where is the where do you draw the line with free speech? 28:55.000 --> 28:58.000 Is there a legal definition? Are there legal boundaries? 28:58.000 --> 29:00.000 I'm not a lawyer obviously. 29:00.000 --> 29:05.000 Is there a line that could be drawn in the sand where something is just illegal? 29:05.000 --> 29:08.000 I mean if it's clear that if there was a podcast about 29:08.000 --> 29:10.000 And of course everyone used the same for an example 29:10.000 --> 29:14.000 If there was a podcast about pedophilia 29:14.000 --> 29:18.000 It would be removed everyone would say yes of course 29:18.000 --> 29:21.000 Because that's basically harmful to children 29:21.000 --> 29:25.000 But I think that all people are basically children 29:25.000 --> 29:27.000 And any type of hate 29:27.000 --> 29:30.000 Directed towards anybody is wrong 29:30.000 --> 29:32.000 But I would like your feedback on this 29:32.000 --> 29:36.000 I would like some suggestions ideas 29:36.000 --> 29:41.000 Clearly there's no conflict here because Michael is willing to do whatever 29:41.000 --> 29:44.000 And go with whatever flow and I really really appreciate that 29:44.000 --> 29:47.000 But let's and don't just fire off an email 29:47.000 --> 29:51.000 You know do your research listen to listen to that show 29:51.000 --> 29:57.000 And and help me out here because I definitely need a little bit of guidance 29:57.000 --> 30:01.000 And if I were just going to get guidance from my own conscience 30:01.000 --> 30:04.000 Or potentially from pod show lawyers 30:04.000 --> 30:06.000 You know they would say remove it immediately 30:06.000 --> 30:11.000 And I'm again I wouldn't want it in my note 30:11.000 --> 30:14.000 But it's not in my note but it is linked from our directory 30:14.000 --> 30:18.000 So help me out and let me know what you think 30:18.000 --> 30:20.000 Adam at curry.com 30:20.000 --> 30:22.000 Hi Adam 30:22.000 --> 30:25.000 This is Cory over at the 501c3 cast 30:25.000 --> 30:28.000 A podcast for nonprofit professionals volunteers 30:28.000 --> 30:30.000 And all around do gooders 30:31.000 --> 30:34.000 As we know Hurricane Katrina has brought enormous devastation 30:34.000 --> 30:37.000 And grief to New Orleans and the surrounding areas 30:37.000 --> 30:42.000 Over the past few weeks we have watched some horrible images of human loss 30:42.000 --> 30:47.000 But have also been touched by equally powerful displays of charity and support 30:47.000 --> 30:51.000 It's important for all of us to remember that as the media hype declines 30:51.000 --> 30:54.000 The work of the red cross and other nonprofits continues 30:54.000 --> 30:58.000 Could you please share a few of these reminders with your listeners? 30:58.000 --> 31:02.000 Remember the recovery efforts don't stop when the news stories do 31:02.000 --> 31:06.000 There are going to be needs in Louisiana and beyond for years to come 31:06.000 --> 31:10.000 Find out what you can do to help with the long term efforts 31:10.000 --> 31:14.000 Also as the holiday giving season approaches 31:14.000 --> 31:18.000 Remember that your generous contributions to hurricane relief efforts 31:18.000 --> 31:22.000 Is not a replacement for donations that you would normally make 31:22.000 --> 31:24.000 To your favorite charities and nonprofits 31:24.000 --> 31:28.000 As funds have been diverted to support the survivors of hurricane Katrina 31:28.000 --> 31:32.000 Your local nonprofits need your regular support more than ever 31:32.000 --> 31:34.000 Please don't forget them 31:34.000 --> 31:38.000 Also remember that all tragedies strike suddenly and unexpectedly 31:38.000 --> 31:42.000 Unfortunately there will be other events in the future that will require your help 31:42.000 --> 31:46.000 The best way to aid in these events is become a trained volunteer now 31:46.000 --> 31:50.000 If you felt helpless watching the images of the recent hurricane 31:50.000 --> 31:54.000 And wish there was a way you could help then then sign up now 31:54.000 --> 32:00.000 If you or anyone you know has a strong interest in the work of nonprofits and their stories 32:00.000 --> 32:04.000 I also welcome you to check out the 501c3cast 32:04.000 --> 32:08.000 You can find us at www.501c3cast.com 32:08.000 --> 32:12.000 Or by searching for nonprofit in the iTunes directory 32:12.000 --> 32:16.000 And remember if we keep working together it will get better 32:17.000 --> 32:21.000 It was born on July 15, 2005 32:22.000 --> 32:26.000 And now the seven headed monster from Pod Show Music 32:26.000 --> 32:30.000 Is about to make landfall 32:30.000 --> 32:42.000 Music 32:42.000 --> 32:48.000 Starting Monday, September 26, coming to a media player near you 32:48.000 --> 32:52.000 See see what the hell are you doing man? What's going on? 32:52.000 --> 32:54.000 I don't even know what this is 32:54.000 --> 32:55.000 I can't wait 32:55.000 --> 32:59.000 The 26 I will definitely be tuned in with my media player 32:59.000 --> 33:01.000 Excellent 33:01.000 --> 33:05.000 Hey, so there's a big, big, big mega 33:05.000 --> 33:08.000 Music industry bash 33:08.000 --> 33:12.000 Taking place in Las Vegas Friday night 33:12.000 --> 33:13.000 It is a party 33:13.000 --> 33:15.000 It is a 33:15.000 --> 33:17.000 Dremaine de Priz birthday birthday party 33:17.000 --> 33:19.000 I think he has like the number one record in the country 33:19.000 --> 33:21.000 Now I really don't follow the charts anymore 33:21.000 --> 33:24.000 But of course I know him he's been Janet Jackson's boyfriend 33:24.000 --> 33:26.000 For many, many years 33:26.000 --> 33:28.000 Who wasn't that 33:28.000 --> 33:32.000 And through Greg Lawley we talked about him 33:32.000 --> 33:34.000 He hooked up with him after 11 years 33:34.000 --> 33:38.000 He has set up some meetings 33:38.000 --> 33:40.000 This is basically one of those 33:40.000 --> 33:43.000 If you have a number one record in the country in the old school music business 33:43.000 --> 33:46.000 Everybody wants to be your buddy of course 33:46.000 --> 33:49.000 And it's huge and it's a weekend 33:49.000 --> 33:51.000 And he's throwing a birthday bash 33:51.000 --> 33:53.000 And he's invited all the right people 33:53.000 --> 33:55.000 He's a rat pack dress 33:55.000 --> 33:59.000 Which sucks because I don't have my rat pack clothes 33:59.000 --> 34:03.000 I don't know where I'm going to find time to shop for rat pack clothing 34:03.000 --> 34:05.000 So I'm basically trying to get a hat and a cane 34:05.000 --> 34:07.000 And try and play it off that way 34:07.000 --> 34:09.000 And some gold cufflinks I guess 34:09.000 --> 34:11.000 And so Greg has set up a couple 34:11.000 --> 34:14.000 Because we talk for hours about pod safe music 34:14.000 --> 34:17.000 And basically there's a two way street that I'd like to open up 34:17.000 --> 34:21.000 I'd like for pod safe music to be able to go 34:21.000 --> 34:24.000 Through some of the traditional distribution channels 34:24.000 --> 34:27.000 Which means and really is distribution 34:27.000 --> 34:29.000 I'm not talking about getting pod safe artists 34:29.000 --> 34:31.000 Signed up to record labels but distribution 34:31.000 --> 34:33.000 Distribution and promotion 34:33.000 --> 34:35.000 Which equals sales 34:35.000 --> 34:40.000 And I think that people who are serious about their profession as musicians 34:40.000 --> 34:42.000 Either you go work in a bar 34:42.000 --> 34:45.000 You play gigs on weekends 34:45.000 --> 34:47.000 Or you find other means to make money 34:47.000 --> 34:49.000 And the pod safe music not work as one way 34:49.000 --> 34:51.000 With direct sales 34:51.000 --> 34:53.000 And through lots of promotion on podcast 34:53.000 --> 34:54.000 Which is fantastic 34:54.000 --> 34:56.000 And I think if something gets really popular 34:56.000 --> 34:59.000 Be great if we could have somewhat broader traditional distribution 34:59.000 --> 35:01.000 So that's one thing I'm going to talk about 35:01.000 --> 35:03.000 Some of these execs about 35:03.000 --> 35:05.000 And of course the other one is 35:05.000 --> 35:07.000 Okay, so what if there's a great song 35:07.000 --> 35:09.000 That is licensed by the RIAA 35:09.000 --> 35:10.000 Which by the way 35:10.000 --> 35:12.000 It's the RIAA is just an association 35:12.000 --> 35:14.000 It's the owner of the masters 35:14.000 --> 35:16.000 So it's the record label in most cases 35:16.000 --> 35:18.000 The master 35:18.000 --> 35:20.000 And if you want to play a 35:20.000 --> 35:24.000 Traditional music business song on your podcast 35:24.000 --> 35:27.000 You have to have as far as we know at this point 35:27.000 --> 35:29.000 Because of course no one has a straight answer 35:29.000 --> 35:31.000 You have to have two things taken care of 35:31.000 --> 35:33.000 One is you have to have 35:33.000 --> 35:36.000 You have to pay your ASCAP BMI license fee 35:36.000 --> 35:38.000 Which is not a huge amount of money 35:38.000 --> 35:39.000 But if you... 35:39.000 --> 35:41.000 Well it's significant 35:41.000 --> 35:42.000 I mean it's like a thousand bucks a year 35:42.000 --> 35:43.000 At least 35:43.000 --> 35:45.000 And if you make money with your podcast 35:45.000 --> 35:48.000 You have to have a percentage of your gross income 35:48.000 --> 35:49.000 Okay 35:49.000 --> 35:50.000 That's fair 35:50.000 --> 35:51.000 Makes sense and that's a deal 35:51.000 --> 35:52.000 It's been around for a long time 35:52.000 --> 35:54.000 But then you also have to have permission 35:54.000 --> 35:56.000 In this case 35:56.000 --> 35:58.000 Because we're talking about digital downloads 35:58.000 --> 36:00.000 And that's a very, very fuzzy area 36:00.000 --> 36:03.000 And of course 99% of all record executives 36:03.000 --> 36:05.000 Have never 36:05.000 --> 36:06.000 Have never listened to a podcast 36:06.000 --> 36:10.000 They probably think it's playlists of music being played 36:10.000 --> 36:11.000 Not that 36:11.000 --> 36:12.000 They have to have an listen 36:12.000 --> 36:13.000 So I don't know what's going on 36:13.000 --> 36:15.000 It's like radio except it's our kind of radio 36:15.000 --> 36:17.000 You know what we do what we want 36:17.000 --> 36:20.000 So you have to have permission in order to play it 36:20.000 --> 36:22.000 And then of course you technically could 36:22.000 --> 36:26.000 So what I'd like to talk to some of these labels about 36:26.000 --> 36:28.000 Is 36:28.000 --> 36:31.000 Waving both fees if possible 36:31.000 --> 36:33.000 And again I'm not a lawyer 36:33.000 --> 36:35.000 But if we get some written permission on stuff 36:35.000 --> 36:37.000 Then it could be interesting to see what shows up 36:37.000 --> 36:39.000 Because look I'm not interested in playing 36:39.000 --> 36:43.000 Jermaine Dupree because the radio stations do a fine job of that 36:43.000 --> 36:45.000 And it's a number one song 36:45.000 --> 36:48.000 But I am interested in playing lots of back catalog as an example 36:48.000 --> 36:52.000 And I think that it's we know it results in sales 36:52.000 --> 36:53.000 People go to iTunes 36:53.000 --> 36:55.000 I play that French song 36:55.000 --> 36:57.000 Schonce Lise 36:57.000 --> 36:59.000 On was it Monday show 36:59.000 --> 37:00.000 I got so many responses 37:00.000 --> 37:01.000 So many people 37:01.000 --> 37:03.000 And it sounds from 1969 37:03.000 --> 37:04.000 It's almost as old as I am 37:04.000 --> 37:06.000 And people loved it 37:07.000 --> 37:09.000 And of course I was in total violation 37:09.000 --> 37:12.000 Because I don't have the rights to play that song 37:12.000 --> 37:16.000 But it is a part of the soundtrack of my life 37:16.000 --> 37:18.000 And that's something that's really important 37:18.000 --> 37:20.000 I want to be able to mash stuff up 37:20.000 --> 37:22.000 Mashups is another blatant violation 37:22.000 --> 37:25.000 I want that to be legal and I want there to be an incentive 37:25.000 --> 37:27.000 And I want there to be everyone to win 37:27.000 --> 37:31.000 So I want to be able to add a mash up to the iTunes music story 37:31.000 --> 37:33.000 So the people can download that 37:33.000 --> 37:35.000 And also download the original tracks 37:35.000 --> 37:37.000 So there's a, as I said, big power 37:37.000 --> 37:38.000 Big power I'm going to go 37:38.000 --> 37:39.000 Vegas is great 37:39.000 --> 37:42.000 Because it's only about an hour and 15 minutes from San Francisco 37:42.000 --> 37:46.000 So I think when we go we have dinner with the guys from Deaf Jam 37:46.000 --> 37:48.000 And from Virgin 37:48.000 --> 37:49.000 And then of course 37:49.000 --> 37:50.000 Well, shocks 37:50.000 --> 37:51.000 I guess I'll have to 37:51.000 --> 37:53.000 I guess I'll have to go to the party 37:53.000 --> 37:54.000 Oh man, that's going to be so hard 37:54.000 --> 37:56.000 You know how I hate parties 37:56.000 --> 37:58.000 Hey, this one showed up on the pod 37:58.000 --> 37:59.000 Safe Music Network 37:59.000 --> 38:00.000 Two days ago 38:00.000 --> 38:02.000 Brand new brother love 38:02.000 --> 38:04.000 There she goes 38:04.000 --> 38:05.000 She goes 38:06.250 --> 40:06.250 [ Music ] 40:07.000 --> 40:08.000 Just tell the stories, just to keep it by. 40:08.000 --> 40:11.000 And I'm going to love you so, that's the first thing. 40:11.000 --> 40:14.000 No, I don't want to be a loom. 40:14.000 --> 42:28.750 [ Music ] 42:29.160 --> 42:32.760 Had no idea what you think. 42:32.760 --> 42:33.760 Left in love. 42:33.760 --> 42:34.600 Bye! 42:34.600 --> 42:35.600 Grab the love. 42:35.600 --> 42:37.600 There she goes! 42:37.600 --> 42:42.600 I can't believe it did 43 minutes, even though I was planning to do like 25. 42:42.600 --> 42:45.600 I just haven't too much fun here in the condo. 42:45.600 --> 42:47.600 Hey everybody, I'm off to the office. 42:47.600 --> 42:50.600 I'm going to put the show up on the server, get some former show notes going, 42:50.600 --> 42:52.600 and I will be back with you tomorrow. 42:52.600 --> 42:59.600 Another Potsho podcast, stick it in your ear.