WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.000 Delta Sierra Charly 2...4...4... 00:20.000 --> 00:23.000 With $16 million worth of airplane strapped my ass... 00:23.000 --> 00:26.000 ...than the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 We don't need no thinking, can we? 00:29.000 --> 00:32.000 I like to think I'm flying you to the future. 00:34.000 --> 00:39.000 It is Thursday the 22nd of September, good morning from Northern California. 00:42.000 --> 00:45.000 Once again, coming to you from the Curry Condo, how you doing? 00:45.000 --> 00:48.000 Okay, I've got my regime set now. 00:48.000 --> 00:50.000 Here's how it works every single morning. 00:50.000 --> 00:53.000 Eyes awake just before the alarm clock goes off. 00:53.000 --> 00:56.000 Because light streaming into the room. 00:56.000 --> 00:59.000 Do some email on the blackberry, and then get ready for this or else go. 01:02.000 --> 01:04.000 So freaking sad, then. 01:04.000 --> 01:08.000 I swear to God, I wake up and like, let me just check my messages. 01:08.000 --> 01:11.000 I think I'm actually getting better in my email, though. 01:13.000 --> 01:15.000 Oh, let's see, it's 9. 01:15.000 --> 01:20.000 It's about 9 a.m. here in the condo in San Francisco, California. 01:20.000 --> 01:27.000 Three main topics today, which will be about the hate podcast that we discussed yesterday. 01:27.000 --> 01:33.000 A little bit more on the sound-vertising experiments. 01:33.000 --> 01:36.000 I actually may have four different topics. 01:36.000 --> 01:38.000 Let me regroup here. 01:42.000 --> 01:45.000 Yeah, so that's two. 01:45.000 --> 01:48.000 I don't remember what I was going to talk about. 01:49.000 --> 01:55.000 Right now we have, I think several members of the pod show family are roaming around San Francisco. 01:55.000 --> 02:01.000 Doing sound-steens towards Will Smith is in town, doing a movie. 02:01.000 --> 02:05.000 I think that you could try to finagle their way on the sets and do stuff. 02:05.000 --> 02:09.000 So you could get anything sent in, then I'll let definitely put it on. 02:09.000 --> 02:12.000 If it comes in the next few minutes, of course. 02:13.000 --> 02:19.000 So, as I awakened, and your day has probably already started. 02:19.000 --> 02:26.000 Once again, it's very, very foggy outside, and here on the 24th floor and the condo, 02:26.000 --> 02:32.000 the fog just kind of rolls on it, and it's a little bit gloomy, although I do know it will burn off later. 02:32.000 --> 02:35.000 But it made me think of Patricia. 02:35.000 --> 02:40.000 So I thought I'd play one of her songs since I miss her and London too. 02:40.000 --> 02:47.000 A foggy day in London town. 02:47.000 --> 04:50.000 [ Music ] 04:50.000 --> 05:08.000 and in foggy London town, but the sun was shining everywhere. 05:08.000 --> 05:11.000 Girl has some pipes. 05:11.000 --> 05:13.000 Oh, it gives me goosebumps. 05:13.000 --> 05:15.000 Okay, that helped. 05:15.000 --> 05:16.000 Yeah, that woke me up a little bit. 05:16.000 --> 05:18.000 Good to hear my wife. 05:18.000 --> 05:25.000 I only talked to her once a day, because that's why we've talked about time differences being in California. 05:25.000 --> 05:31.000 I got to get up, I got to do my stuff, and by the time I really have, 05:31.000 --> 05:34.000 I'd like to chat for at least half an hour, catch up on what's going on. 05:34.000 --> 05:38.000 It's already 9pm over there, and I'm still in morning, go get a mode, 05:38.000 --> 05:41.000 and she's in winded down decompression mode. 05:41.000 --> 05:46.000 So that's a little bit tough, but only about a week now before I'll be going back, 05:46.000 --> 05:49.000 and we will be, oh, there's another great song. 05:49.000 --> 05:52.000 If I have this song, I'll play it, I'll play a snippet for you, hold on. 05:52.000 --> 05:56.000 Oh, I fixed iTunes, that was my other topic that I was going to talk to you about. 05:56.000 --> 05:59.000 Well, I didn't really fix it, but I figured out how to make it work again. 05:59.000 --> 06:02.000 I didn't fix my subscriptions, those are all lost. 06:02.000 --> 06:05.000 Hold on a second, let me see if I have. 06:05.000 --> 06:06.000 Oh, man. 06:06.000 --> 06:09.000 You'd think I'd have peaches in her with reunited. 06:10.000 --> 06:13.000 Now, I have peaches in her, but I don't have reunited. 06:13.000 --> 06:14.000 What do I have? 06:14.000 --> 06:17.000 I have six. 06:17.000 --> 06:20.000 Yeah, that's a shaky group thing, that doesn't count. 06:20.000 --> 06:21.000 Okay. 06:21.000 --> 06:23.000 Okay, so what should we talk about? 06:23.000 --> 06:25.000 Oh, yeah, iTunes, let's talk about that real quick. 06:25.000 --> 06:27.000 The coffee's brewing in the background, so I mean, 06:27.000 --> 06:30.000 you know, I got to talk about the sound advertising stuff. 06:30.000 --> 06:35.000 So, after installing and reading, re-installing iTunes, 06:35.000 --> 06:37.000 the new version 5.0.1, 06:38.000 --> 06:40.000 still, it wouldn't actually even start up, 06:40.000 --> 06:44.000 and so I figured there must be something completely horrendously wrong 06:44.000 --> 06:48.000 with both the library and probably the XML file that's in the iTunes folder. 06:48.000 --> 06:52.000 So, I trashed both of those, started up again, and of course, 06:52.000 --> 06:56.000 iTunes was fine, and it had to re-index my library, 06:56.000 --> 06:59.000 so I lost my playlist, but that's no big, I don't care about that. 06:59.000 --> 07:03.000 And I'd already lost the subscription, so now I can start over again, 07:03.000 --> 07:07.000 but this time I'm pretty confident that the program is going to be stable. 07:07.000 --> 07:11.000 I guess just for some reason, and I did actually get a couple of emails 07:11.000 --> 07:17.000 saying that folks who were members of the Dutch music store, 07:17.000 --> 07:21.000 and you know, when I signed up for the music store, 07:21.000 --> 07:24.000 actually when I signed up for my whole dot market count, 07:24.000 --> 07:28.000 I did it when I was still living in the Netherlands, actually. 07:28.000 --> 07:30.000 So, never got around to changing that. 07:31.000 --> 07:33.000 It probably isn't even a real simple way, 07:33.000 --> 07:39.000 and it may have something to do with the location specific music stores, 07:39.000 --> 07:43.000 or the XML-associated with that, because I got a couple other reports 07:43.000 --> 07:48.000 that that was happening with folks who were using the Dutch music store. 07:48.000 --> 07:50.000 So, that could be what's going on. 07:50.000 --> 07:55.000 You actually have a meeting over at Apple, was it next week? 07:55.000 --> 07:57.000 I'll bring it up and see. 07:57.000 --> 08:01.000 Yeah, there's some other little features that were fixed here and there. 08:01.000 --> 08:03.000 Let me see, I think I had, 08:03.000 --> 08:06.000 I'm really trying to get all my show notes together here. 08:06.000 --> 08:08.000 Oh shoot, another thing we're supposed to talk about today, 08:08.000 --> 08:13.000 show notes. Oh man, I had some great feedback on the show notes. 08:13.000 --> 08:17.000 Let me see, was this, here we go. 08:17.000 --> 08:20.000 Mike from British Columbia, 08:20.000 --> 08:24.000 Mike Hilderbrand from British Columbia, Canada, 08:24.000 --> 08:29.000 says that it's what was happening here. 08:29.000 --> 08:31.000 He has iTunes that only keep the podcast. 08:31.000 --> 08:33.000 He hasn't listened to, once he's listened to a show, 08:33.000 --> 08:36.000 it gets deleted automatically next time. 08:36.000 --> 08:38.000 Oh man. 08:38.000 --> 08:40.000 I can now I can't figure out what he's saying. 08:40.000 --> 08:43.000 It's okay, they fixed a lot of stuff in five. 08:43.000 --> 08:45.000 Oh shoot, hold on a second. 08:45.000 --> 08:47.000 I haven't done my milk yet, man. 08:47.000 --> 08:48.000 Hold on. 08:48.000 --> 08:49.000 You can hear that. 08:49.000 --> 08:51.000 That's me. 08:51.000 --> 08:54.000 That's the cup of chino maker getting ready to move. 08:54.000 --> 08:56.000 Just blow some steam into it. 08:56.000 --> 08:57.000 Hold on. 08:57.000 --> 09:00.000 Oh my kingdom for a set sail. 09:00.000 --> 09:04.000 Oh man, this is insane. 09:04.000 --> 09:07.000 It's, it's not that the coffee isn't good. 09:07.000 --> 09:10.000 It's just that it's so fricking messy. 09:10.000 --> 09:12.000 There we go. 09:12.000 --> 09:16.000 Once again, we're creating burn milk in a plastic cup. 09:16.000 --> 09:19.000 Oh, there's some reason it's sprawl thing much better today. 09:20.000 --> 09:22.000 How tired do you get up listening to me? 09:22.000 --> 09:23.000 Listen to me do this, huh? 09:23.000 --> 09:26.000 There we go. 09:31.000 --> 09:34.000 Once again, totally not organized. 09:34.000 --> 09:36.000 Hold on one second. 09:36.000 --> 09:37.000 Just let me, just let me grab this sugar. 09:37.000 --> 09:38.000 Don't go away. 09:38.000 --> 09:39.000 Okay. 09:39.000 --> 09:40.000 Here we go. 09:40.000 --> 09:41.000 There we go. 09:43.000 --> 09:45.000 Yes fantastic. 09:45.000 --> 09:48.000 So the reason why I'm not quite as organized 09:49.000 --> 09:53.000 is I have a new system now for my email. 09:53.000 --> 09:57.000 Let me talk to you about this because those of you who are using Gmail 09:57.000 --> 09:59.000 and really like it. 09:59.000 --> 10:03.000 But still want to take advantage of most of the Gmail features 10:03.000 --> 10:05.000 and a lot of the features of the Blackberry. 10:05.000 --> 10:08.000 By the way, I've been getting questions about which Blackberry 10:08.000 --> 10:09.000 I have. 10:09.000 --> 10:10.000 I have the 7290. 10:10.000 --> 10:13.000 It's the plastic one with the, you know, 10:13.000 --> 10:15.000 with the type of multiple keyboard. 10:15.000 --> 10:19.000 I really like this device because, well, a number of reasons. 10:19.000 --> 10:21.000 First of all, the keyboard does not suck. 10:21.000 --> 10:24.000 I can type pretty fast with two thumbs. 10:24.000 --> 10:27.000 Probably not much slower. 10:27.000 --> 10:28.000 It might even be fast. 10:28.000 --> 10:30.000 I should judge it time that I'm not a, 10:30.000 --> 10:32.000 I'm not a blind type this. 10:32.000 --> 10:35.000 I use probably six fingers, 10:35.000 --> 10:37.000 depending on what my mood is. 10:37.000 --> 10:39.000 Never learned to type properly. 10:39.000 --> 10:42.000 And I do have to look at the keyboard once in a while. 10:42.000 --> 10:44.000 But on the Blackberry, it goes pretty fast. 10:44.000 --> 10:48.000 And the keys have good feedback, good response. 10:48.000 --> 10:50.000 So you know when you hit it, 10:50.000 --> 10:52.000 there has lots of shortcuts. 10:52.000 --> 10:54.000 You know, if you want to do a capitalize letter, 10:54.000 --> 10:58.000 you just hold the key down and it turns into a cap real quick. 10:58.000 --> 11:00.000 But more importantly, 11:00.000 --> 11:03.000 I can kind of, you know, take it anywhere. 11:03.000 --> 11:05.000 And, well, you know, why get up in the morning? 11:05.000 --> 11:06.000 The first thing I do is, 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 oh, just a skin through the mail. 11:08.000 --> 11:11.000 And because there's a limited space on the device, 11:11.000 --> 11:13.000 I think it has 32 megs of memory or something like that. 11:13.000 --> 11:16.000 And also the way these guys set up. 11:16.000 --> 11:19.000 You get like a 25 megabyte email, 11:19.000 --> 11:23.000 a lot meant that can go into your Blackberry, 11:23.000 --> 11:24.000 which makes sense, you know, 11:24.000 --> 11:27.000 10 megs for applications and crap and 25 for email. 11:27.000 --> 11:29.000 And then starts rejecting stuff. 11:29.000 --> 11:31.000 So you kind of get into habit of clearing out the mailbox. 11:31.000 --> 11:32.000 And guess what? 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 That means you go through it. 11:34.000 --> 11:37.000 I've actually started really reading email lists again. 11:37.000 --> 11:39.000 So let me just tell you how I did it. 11:39.000 --> 11:41.000 Could it might be of interest to you if you're setting that up? 11:41.000 --> 11:42.000 I love Gmail. 11:42.000 --> 11:47.000 There's nothing that beats Gmail when it comes to really search-based email. 11:47.000 --> 11:48.000 I love it. 11:48.000 --> 11:49.000 It works for me. 11:49.000 --> 11:50.000 It's a fantastic idea. 11:50.000 --> 11:51.000 The interface is great. 11:51.000 --> 11:54.000 I never have a problem with SMTP servers or anything like that. 11:54.000 --> 11:55.000 Just give me a web browser. 11:55.000 --> 11:57.000 I can log in all my email addresses are there. 11:57.000 --> 11:58.000 And it's great. 11:58.000 --> 11:59.000 Okay. 11:59.000 --> 12:02.000 We have to besides the fact that I've never seen to be able to keep under 99%. 12:02.000 --> 12:05.000 I'm always at 100% and I find myself deleting things. 12:05.000 --> 12:10.000 But, you know, usually people who still send me MP3 files as attachments. 12:11.000 --> 12:15.000 So what I've done is I've set up a number of rules. 12:15.000 --> 12:19.000 First of all, I set it up so that when I send something from the Blackberry, 12:19.000 --> 12:24.000 it sends a blind carbon copy to my Gmail account. 12:24.000 --> 12:28.000 And of course, I've set up a rule that if something comes in from the Blackberry from me, 12:28.000 --> 12:32.000 then it should not be forwarded back to the Blackberry. 12:32.000 --> 12:34.000 Otherwise, you get this interesting loop. 12:34.000 --> 12:37.000 You just basically read in your own exhaust. 12:37.000 --> 12:39.000 And that's a pain. 12:39.000 --> 12:44.000 So that, that, let me see. 12:44.000 --> 12:48.000 So if it comes in from the Blackberry, then it does not get forwarded. 12:48.000 --> 12:50.000 Everything else does get forwarded. 12:50.000 --> 12:56.000 However, if something comes in from the Blackberry that I've tagged and by tagging meaning that I've forwarded it to myself. 12:56.000 --> 13:01.000 And I put, as an example, DSC in Caps at the end of it. 13:01.000 --> 13:04.000 I shouldn't have told you that, and I should I. 13:04.000 --> 13:06.000 No way, but it only works when it's coming from me. 13:06.000 --> 13:07.000 Okay, right. 13:07.000 --> 13:11.000 And then it will automatically label it as something for the source code. 13:11.000 --> 13:12.000 And it'll file it away. 13:12.000 --> 13:14.000 And of course, it won't send it back to me. 13:14.000 --> 13:17.000 And, and everything else just gets forwarded. 13:17.000 --> 13:22.000 So now, as I, you know, kind of get reused to the a new way of reading email. 13:22.000 --> 13:25.000 And, you know, and being reintroduced to some of the mailing lists, 13:25.000 --> 13:28.000 I'm on that probably just sitting in in folders or our label, 13:28.000 --> 13:29.000 then not in my inbox. 13:29.000 --> 13:33.000 And I rarely have time to go through or, you know, once in a blue moon. 13:33.000 --> 13:35.000 So like the podcasters mailing list. 13:35.000 --> 13:36.000 And I'm reading that again. 13:36.000 --> 13:40.000 And it's, it's really fast, you know, it's, it's, it's actually, 13:40.000 --> 13:42.000 maybe even depending on your connectivity. 13:42.000 --> 13:44.000 It's maybe even be a little bit faster than Gmail itself. 13:44.000 --> 13:47.000 And a great advantage is, even if you run out of space, 13:47.000 --> 13:51.000 because when you hit 100% on your Gmail quota, you can't send email. 13:51.000 --> 13:54.000 You can, of course, still sends something from the blackberry. 13:54.000 --> 13:58.000 And it will actually put the, the blind carbon copy into the Gmail account, 13:58.000 --> 14:02.000 even though you're at 100% because I think you can go up to like 105 or 110%. 14:02.000 --> 14:06.000 But I've got, I mean, if anyone at Google is listening anybody, 14:06.000 --> 14:09.000 Foo bar boy is the account, 14:09.000 --> 14:12.000 F-O-O-B-A-R-B-O-Y. 14:12.000 --> 14:15.000 I'm excuse me, that would be Fox Trot, Oscar, 14:15.000 --> 14:20.000 Bravo, Alpha Romeo, Bravo, Oscar Yankee. 14:20.000 --> 14:23.000 Give me, give me like two more gigs, please. 14:23.000 --> 14:25.000 I won't tell anyone, I'll just, you know, 14:25.000 --> 14:27.000 you would make my life so much better. 14:27.000 --> 14:29.000 It would be so nice. 14:29.000 --> 14:31.000 So that's the, the setup there. 14:31.000 --> 14:32.000 I'm, I'm digging it. 14:32.000 --> 14:34.000 I, I, I never thought I would say it, 14:34.000 --> 14:35.000 but it's a great device. 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 I like it very, very much. 14:37.000 --> 14:39.000 Y'all, let's send a hint to hit test in, 14:39.000 --> 14:42.000 so we'll definitely be rolling that one out today. 14:42.000 --> 14:43.000 I still have a mashup. 14:43.000 --> 14:46.000 I got this whole CD of like 100 different mashups from, 14:46.000 --> 14:48.000 somebody I met yesterday. 14:48.000 --> 14:49.000 And I'll, I'll tell you about that later. 14:49.000 --> 14:51.000 But first, the, the Sincel stuff. 14:51.000 --> 14:54.000 For some reason, I've gotten a whole slew of emails 14:54.000 --> 14:56.000 about the Sincel sound, 14:56.000 --> 14:57.000 advertising experiment. 14:57.000 --> 15:01.000 So, if you're new, 15:01.000 --> 15:04.000 to the daily source code, 15:04.000 --> 15:06.000 and those of you who who already have done this, 15:06.000 --> 15:09.000 you might want to skip ahead and not listen to it. 15:09.000 --> 15:11.000 Because this is some mind programming that, 15:11.000 --> 15:14.000 that is, it will appears to be reasonably permanent. 15:14.000 --> 15:17.000 So the whole concept is, you're driving right now, 15:17.000 --> 15:20.000 or you're walking, or maybe you're just sitting in the, 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 on the couch and a living room, 15:22.000 --> 15:24.000 wherever you are, pick a spot right now. 15:24.000 --> 15:25.000 Just look at that spot. 15:25.000 --> 15:27.000 It's an object, probably. 15:27.000 --> 15:30.000 And when I'm going to say Sincel. 15:30.000 --> 15:32.000 So every single time you see that object, 15:32.000 --> 15:34.000 you will not be able to help yourself, 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 but to think of Sincel. 15:36.000 --> 15:38.000 What's interesting, and I get a lot of emails, 15:38.000 --> 15:40.000 is that it also works in the reverse. 15:40.000 --> 15:42.000 When I talk about Sincel, 15:42.000 --> 15:44.000 someone who might have picked, for instance, 15:44.000 --> 15:46.000 a tree, or a particular road sign, 15:46.000 --> 15:48.000 will actually think of the road sign. 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 So it seems to be a, a two way street. 15:50.000 --> 15:52.000 It's something about this though, 15:52.000 --> 15:54.000 that it's a little bit disturbing, 15:54.000 --> 15:56.000 because I don't know how to undo it. 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 It appears to be irreversible. 15:58.000 --> 16:00.000 And, and I'm getting lots of email 16:00.000 --> 16:01.000 of people saying, you know, 16:01.000 --> 16:03.000 and it doesn't bother them that much, 16:03.000 --> 16:05.000 but they cannot stop thinking of the Sincel, 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 whenever they see their special object. 16:07.000 --> 16:09.000 And I'm like, there's got this, 16:09.000 --> 16:11.000 and where are the psychologists out there? 16:11.000 --> 16:12.000 You know, this has got to be, 16:12.000 --> 16:14.000 some kind of very simple, 16:14.000 --> 16:15.000 and that's a college. 16:15.000 --> 16:17.000 This is like, this is like neural, 16:17.000 --> 16:19.000 neural network programming in some regard. 16:19.000 --> 16:22.000 It's really, it's a really easy way to, 16:22.000 --> 16:24.000 to do it. 16:24.000 --> 16:27.000 And I'm not quite sure what we're going to take this, 16:27.000 --> 16:29.000 but I'm just waiting for the first, 16:29.000 --> 16:30.000 for the first advertiser to think, 16:30.000 --> 16:32.000 this is a really good way to, 16:32.000 --> 16:35.000 to do something to associate their product with, 16:35.000 --> 16:36.000 you know, 16:36.000 --> 16:38.000 anything that people want to associate it with, 16:38.000 --> 16:41.000 but just the message keeps on coming back. 16:41.000 --> 16:43.000 We just run through a couple of, 16:43.000 --> 16:45.000 a couple of emails here about the, 16:45.000 --> 16:47.000 about the Sincel, 16:47.000 --> 16:49.000 the soundvertising experiment. 16:49.000 --> 16:51.000 So we have Brendan Cops, 16:51.000 --> 16:53.000 says I get the reverse. 16:53.000 --> 16:55.000 I don't think of Sincel every time I pass, 16:55.000 --> 16:58.000 the fire hydrant that I picked as my object, 16:58.000 --> 17:01.000 but I do think of the fire hydrant every time I hear Sincel, 17:01.000 --> 17:02.000 and here it comes. 17:02.000 --> 17:04.000 I was listening to Dawn and Drew the other day, 17:04.000 --> 17:06.000 and they mentioned Sincel when Dawn Belts, 17:06.000 --> 17:08.000 which used to be my anchor for the Sincel. 17:08.000 --> 17:11.000 First thing I thought of was the fire hydrant. 17:11.000 --> 17:14.000 Oh, fantastic. 17:14.000 --> 17:16.000 Let's see, 17:16.000 --> 17:19.080 Let's see, what's this next one here? 17:19.080 --> 17:20.720 This is from Sasha. 17:20.720 --> 17:26.560 I was running on Interstate 94 from Minneapolis to St. Paul to attend one of my university 17:26.560 --> 17:29.360 classes while I was listening to your podcast, telling us to look at something outside 17:29.360 --> 17:32.720 or window and things and say, oh, you wanted to see if each time we said the same thing, 17:32.720 --> 17:37.200 do we think St. Sayo? Fuck yes. I happen to look at an overpass. Now every time I see it overpass, 17:37.200 --> 17:42.600 I think St. Sayo whenever I see any overpass, I suddenly want coffee. I just need to get one of 17:42.600 --> 17:47.160 those damn St. Sayo machines. Yeah, they don't, the St. Sayo machines aren't that readily available. 17:47.160 --> 17:54.520 I don't think in the United States. So you can order one through my weblog at www.curry.com. 17:54.520 --> 17:59.640 Same goes for South Africa where the sound advertising experiment is working Paul says the same thing. 17:59.640 --> 18:03.400 Don't have a, don't have a recall ever seeing it St. Sayo machine in South Africa, 18:04.120 --> 18:08.280 but it's working well. He picked a cell phone tower. 18:08.360 --> 18:17.080 It's fantastic. So let me, yeah. I got to get one. I got to have one sent over to you know, 18:17.080 --> 18:21.720 where's Frick and JC pennies? They were supposed to contact me by yes. So that's another thing 18:21.720 --> 18:26.200 I got to put on the list. I need my stuff. I'm still eating off a paper plates. This is ridiculous. 18:28.680 --> 18:36.040 Okay. Yesterday we had a little conversation about the 18:36.440 --> 18:43.640 listing or not listing of a racist podcast in the indie potter.org directory. 18:44.440 --> 18:50.120 And we, you know, I kind of looked at it from all angles. And there's so much response. Thank you all so 18:50.120 --> 18:57.240 much for for sending in your thoughts and your comments. And I would have to say that except for one email 18:57.240 --> 19:06.040 out of easily 60 or 70. And that one email suggested or actually said, hey, look, you know, 19:06.040 --> 19:10.040 indie potter.org is, you know, it's a private organization, it's not a government thing. 19:10.760 --> 19:17.080 You can do it as you like. And that's not, you know, that's your prerogative. Then I agree. 19:17.080 --> 19:23.800 But the other 99.9% of the emails all said, you know, indie potter.org is 19:24.760 --> 19:32.200 such an important resource for all things podcasting that even though the podcast and question 19:32.200 --> 19:39.000 discuss them, even though they, you know, well, just no, no one said, hey, I like that podcast, 19:39.000 --> 19:45.560 right? That would make sense. I guess the no one wants to, it removed. No one wants the listing 19:45.560 --> 19:51.000 removed from the, from the category, from the politics category. No one wants the politics category 19:51.000 --> 19:58.280 altered. And they all feel that free speech is much more important and probably by not trying to 19:58.280 --> 20:04.120 cover it up, it'll, you know, keep it out in the open. Yeah, excuse me. Keep it out in the open. 20:05.480 --> 20:10.520 And leave the issues out there. Don't try to turn your back and look the other way. And that is proved 20:11.320 --> 20:17.000 not a very good idea in, in past history. Interesting idea was to set up a 20:17.880 --> 20:24.120 hate and racism node on the directory and put all, I'm put it in there. I don't know. 20:25.640 --> 20:30.600 But it did, it did really strike me. There goes the jackhammer again outside. It did really strike 20:30.600 --> 20:37.320 me that people view indie potter.org as a really big community resource. And they want everything 20:37.320 --> 20:43.640 listed in there and don't think anything should be pulled out. So how to chat yesterday with a 20:43.720 --> 20:47.320 couple of folks at Pod Show and everyone agrees. That's the way to do it. So we're going to leave 20:47.320 --> 20:56.440 it at that. And probably we should all focus our energy on, you know, trying to stop hate and trying 20:56.440 --> 21:02.920 to stop racism and, and educating our kids and our friends and our neighbors and that that's a 21:02.920 --> 21:07.480 much, much better way than to just say, oh, it doesn't exist. And by the way, you know, really to 21:07.480 --> 21:11.880 the block free speech, we'd have to make it, you know, have to stop them from being from talking. 21:11.880 --> 21:16.920 And, you know, that is, that's, we're not doing that. This is just not publicizing something or 21:17.640 --> 21:21.080 or it is publicizing something. So we're going to leave it in. We're going to leave the 21:21.080 --> 21:25.320 know the way it is. And I really appreciate everyone for sending in all the comments. I did make 21:25.320 --> 21:32.200 a big mistake, though. I said that I had to receive that rather unfriendly email from Podcast 21:32.200 --> 21:37.560 shuffle. Well, let me just get to the, yeah, I haven't gotten so, of course, receive several emails 21:37.640 --> 21:44.520 about that because I totally screwed it up. It was not the, the podcast shuffle. Let's see. 21:46.920 --> 21:51.080 Okay, so I've discovered now that my email system is not working the way I'd like it to 21:52.520 --> 21:58.360 because everything that I forward comes into my daily source code folder as coming from me. 21:58.920 --> 22:02.920 So that's not very handy. Let me go to the comments on curry.com. 22:03.480 --> 22:07.880 Damn, are we already into, are we even like, oh, it's 22 minutes already with the hell of 22:07.880 --> 22:15.880 I've been doing. Okay, here we go. Scrolling down. Oh, man. 22:19.320 --> 22:27.480 Okay, so it was not the podcast shuffle. It was, it doesn't really even matter who it was. 22:27.960 --> 22:33.320 But it was not the podcast shuffle who threatened to call me out if I didn't do anything 22:33.320 --> 22:39.240 about the, the code situation. That doesn't matter. I do apologize now. That was, that was unintended. 22:39.240 --> 22:44.440 That's just another bit of information overload and confusion. But it's even worse, though, 22:44.440 --> 22:50.920 as I did look at the RSS feed for this particular podcast. It was clearly someone who would just 22:51.560 --> 22:58.040 throw an RSS feed together and it copied and pasted someone else's RSS feed to get the right 22:58.040 --> 23:05.320 elements in there, which is, that's a pretty standard, standard way of working, I guess, for newbies 23:05.320 --> 23:09.160 who don't know how to, you know, are doing it with a, with a text or a note pad editor or something. 23:09.880 --> 23:14.760 Unfortunately, in this particular podcast, I, I noticed this, I knew exactly what had happened 23:14.760 --> 23:21.480 when I saw it. It was copied from the podcast for one one podcast and I know Rob has nothing to 23:21.480 --> 23:26.920 do with these guys. And then so you can imagine how freaked out he is about this. He actually sent 23:26.920 --> 23:32.360 an audio comment about this very topic. And this is Rob from podcast for one one. I just want to thank 23:32.360 --> 23:37.960 you for letting me clarify this situation a little bit on your Wednesday, 20th first show. You mentioned 23:37.960 --> 23:44.200 a podcast and you were talking about this podcast with regards to freedom of speech and this was 23:44.200 --> 23:48.760 a white supremacy podcast and I'm not going to mention their name. I don't want to give them any 23:48.760 --> 23:54.120 more PR. Earlier this week, getting of the week, I received an email from one of my listeners who 23:54.120 --> 24:00.520 happened to come across this podcast and to let me know that my email address was listed under 24:00.520 --> 24:06.200 their web manager. I want to let everybody know, I have absolutely nothing to do with this podcast. 24:06.600 --> 24:12.280 I have never talked with them. I have never consulted with them. I have absolutely zero relationship 24:12.280 --> 24:17.960 with this podcast nor would I ever have any relationship with this podcast. Once this was brought 24:17.960 --> 24:23.320 to my attention, I have sent multiple emails to them now asking that my email address be removed 24:23.320 --> 24:28.120 from the web manager. Hopefully, this will be rectified shortly. As you know, Adam, I have 24:28.120 --> 24:33.800 tutorial on my site that teaches you how to create an RSS feed. That tutorial has been accessed 24:33.800 --> 24:39.720 tens of thousands of times. And unfortunately, one of those times apparently was by this podcast 24:39.800 --> 24:47.000 in question, and they copied and pasted out the demo tutorial I have and in doing so copied 24:47.000 --> 24:52.040 out my email address and put that in there. Again, I have absolutely nothing to do with this podcast 24:52.040 --> 24:58.520 nor would I as a point of reference. In my bio picture, I send out is a picture from my visit to Israel 24:58.520 --> 25:03.960 two years ago, which was one of the best visits I've ever had. I love Israel and the people in 25:03.960 --> 25:08.280 Israel. And one of my favorite podcasts is the view from here, which by the way, if you'll as 25:08.360 --> 25:12.680 soon as I haven't checked out, please check out the view from here. Harry and Zeva do a wonderful job. 25:12.680 --> 25:20.600 So again, Adam, thank you for letting me clear the record here. I have nothing and want nothing 25:20.600 --> 25:25.800 to do with that podcast and have asked that my email address be removed from their feed. Thanks, Adam. 25:25.800 --> 25:32.200 Okay, Rob. And thank you for clarifying not that it needed clarification from where I stand, 25:32.200 --> 25:37.640 obviously, but that does really suck. Oh, man, that's horrible. Oh, no, I forgot the turn. 25:37.640 --> 25:42.200 I chatted off. And of course, I immediately, you know, there's too many ways to get to me. There's 25:42.200 --> 25:48.520 too many incoming subspace signals as Rev Tim was say. Okay, and it's definite. I've totally decided 25:48.520 --> 25:55.640 now the studio A to the Audi A8. I'm getting rid of it at the end of the year. Actually, it was a 25:55.640 --> 25:59.880 company least that I from one of my companies in the Netherlands still has Dutch plates on it, 25:59.960 --> 26:05.320 even if you can go figure that. So the least will be up and I'm not renewing it, getting rid of it, 26:05.320 --> 26:09.560 because this car is way overqualified for the mission. I don't care about cars anymore. I've had 26:09.560 --> 26:13.720 every single stupid car you can imagine, except a Ferrari. I've never owned a Ferrari, but I've had 26:13.720 --> 26:19.640 roses, I've had porches, I've had clunkers, I've had, you know, you name it, I've probably had it at 26:19.640 --> 26:24.760 one point in time, even if I couldn't afford it, because I've always loved, you know, wow, we're all 26:24.760 --> 26:30.280 behind the different cars, but I kind of give up on it and I really like the car service, the 26:30.280 --> 26:36.440 cab service that we use in Guilford, which is GM cars. In case you're in Guilford and looking for a 26:36.440 --> 26:40.680 good car service, tell a Mr. Mrs. Curry sent you. You know, they're very trustworthy and those are 26:40.680 --> 26:47.160 just great guys. So we use the car service most of the time, but once in a while, you need to 26:47.160 --> 26:52.920 go somewhere or have your own wheels under your own control, so we do need a car. And I've decided 26:53.080 --> 27:00.040 it's definitely definitely definitely going to be a diesel, and I want, and over the course of the 27:00.040 --> 27:05.400 past four or five weeks, maybe even longer, we'd talk about the concept of biodiesel. This is not 27:05.400 --> 27:11.400 ethanol or anything like that. This is pure oil from different sources that you can make a diesel 27:11.400 --> 27:17.960 engine run on. Garrett was nice enough to send me an email about some article about this guy in the 27:18.040 --> 27:24.440 UK who bought a really kind of like a what a pleasure wasn't it? Yeah, a pleasure to owe five 27:24.440 --> 27:33.480 diesel, and he figured out how to create a biodiesel from on the second, from the chip shop. 27:34.200 --> 27:44.040 Yes, that would be from the, the used up, I guess French right, Greece. And it cost him a total 27:44.280 --> 27:51.480 of 50 cents a liter. So that would be about a buck 50 a gallon, I guess. I'm just doing rough estimates here. 27:51.480 --> 27:56.280 He says it costs about a thousand dollars a year through on his car, which of course depends on, 27:56.280 --> 28:01.480 you know, how far he's, how far he's driving. We made a little processor in this shed from 28:01.480 --> 28:07.400 from an old heating boiler, and he says that the the waste vegetable oil that he gets from the 28:07.400 --> 28:12.520 kebab van. So these are vans that drive from bacon up kebab. They're so happy with him. They actually 28:12.600 --> 28:19.080 drop it off at his house. And I would like to do a project like this because, you know, if I don't 28:19.080 --> 28:25.240 have to use oil from the pump and I can make it, I mean, it's more about the principle of it than 28:25.240 --> 28:30.280 the actual price, but I want to do this. So if you know which car I should get, so I do want to 28:30.280 --> 28:37.720 luxury car, and I want it to be a nice vehicle, you know, that can kind of conceit, well, it has to 28:37.720 --> 28:44.440 have back seats. That's, that's a must. And something that, and now, lots of people send me 28:44.440 --> 28:48.680 different information about that, you know, these newer diesel engines can or can't handle that. 28:48.680 --> 28:52.680 And, you know, there's got to be so many who has the definitive answer. I just want an example. 28:52.680 --> 28:56.520 Give me an example of a car you have that is running on vegetable oil, and I'm going to go get it, 28:56.520 --> 29:00.520 and I'm going to make my own goddamn vegetable oil. I'm going to run it on it, and we'll make 29:00.520 --> 29:05.720 that a project that will, that will be doing together. How does that sound? So yesterday at the 29:05.720 --> 29:12.840 Pod Show offices, I met up with Christina, or actually Christy, as she goes, she's a publicist, 29:12.840 --> 29:18.040 here in San Francisco. We're talking about working together, and she's a big fan of podcasting 29:18.040 --> 29:23.480 and pod safe music, and she handed me a CD, and she said, well, this is a guy who doesn't really 29:23.480 --> 29:30.200 want to be known, and the CD just said boots on it. That's all it said. 113 different mixes and 29:30.200 --> 29:35.480 mash-ups. I kind of like this one as I was spitting them all last night here at the condo. 29:36.360 --> 29:40.200 It's the dreadlock child on the source code, 244. 29:53.750 --> 30:42.760 [ Music ] 30:42.760 --> 31:12.760 I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I wear it, I 31:12.760 --> 31:24.760 wear it, I wear it, I say, you know, no no, no, you don't know, now, talk about this, whatever. 31:24.760 --> 32:50.760 [ Music ] 32:50.760 --> 33:14.440 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, go get that, like that,IIin, flavorful Scoop bloody 33:14.440 --> 33:18.440 There is no such thing. 33:18.440 --> 33:23.440 Now there is the appeal. 33:23.440 --> 33:34.440 Lindy's blues cast brings in the best blues music in the world. 33:34.440 --> 33:47.440 Is it acoustic or electronic? 33:47.440 --> 33:55.440 Or electronic? 33:55.440 --> 34:01.440 Lindy's blues cast brings in the best blues. 34:01.440 --> 34:09.440 Rightly influenced in RSS feed 50g on top. 34:09.440 --> 34:17.440 Lindy's podcast called Rockspot.com 34:17.440 --> 34:20.440 That's Lindy's blues cast from Germany. 34:20.440 --> 34:23.440 Lindy's blues cast.blogspot.com. 34:23.440 --> 34:26.440 And I play that because I often get emails. 34:26.440 --> 34:29.440 People say, hey, you know, the source code makes it sound like podcasting. 34:29.440 --> 34:32.440 It's a US thing only and there's lots of podcasts all over the place. 34:32.440 --> 34:34.440 A global concept. 34:34.440 --> 34:35.440 Of course it is. 34:35.440 --> 34:37.440 But I rarely play a promo in a different language. 34:37.440 --> 34:39.440 I think you kind of get the gist of that one, right? 34:39.440 --> 34:41.440 That was easy enough if you don't speak German. 34:41.440 --> 34:48.440 But let me tell you, my theory on why podcasting is so incredibly huge in the United States. 34:48.440 --> 34:53.440 And it doesn't seem to be catching on as fast with the same, 34:53.440 --> 34:58.440 a mine, you know, same in scenery speed as in the US. 34:58.440 --> 35:00.440 And that is, and it's my theory only. 35:00.440 --> 35:04.440 But I think it's right is because listening has sucked. 35:04.440 --> 35:07.440 It started to suck in the United States. 35:07.440 --> 35:09.440 The radio is the problem. 35:09.440 --> 35:11.440 This thing, this podcasting that we're all, you know, 35:11.440 --> 35:15.440 freaking out about and having so much fun with is driven by listener demand. 35:15.440 --> 35:18.440 Because the radio in the United States became this, 35:18.440 --> 35:20.440 you know, that's what cruise box is singing about. 35:20.440 --> 35:25.440 It became this homogenized, marketed, playlisted, scripted, you know, 35:25.440 --> 35:27.440 tight, formatted thing. 35:27.440 --> 35:31.440 And no matter where you go anywhere in the United States, 35:31.440 --> 35:33.440 you turn on the radio and you have your formats. 35:33.440 --> 35:36.440 Now the most exciting format is the Jack format, 35:36.440 --> 35:39.440 which is pretty much someone putting their iPod on shuffle 35:39.440 --> 35:41.440 and plugging it into a transmitter. 35:41.440 --> 35:45.440 But then there's the, you know, the WLTW light FM. 35:45.440 --> 35:47.440 You know, there's that station. 35:47.440 --> 35:48.440 There's the rocket flight drone. 35:48.440 --> 35:50.440 See you 100. 35:50.440 --> 35:55.440 And then, of course, there's the news back to you, Bob. 35:55.440 --> 35:57.440 And no matter where you go, it's the same. 35:57.440 --> 36:01.440 And this is one of the things we talked about the very, very beginning of podcasting 36:01.440 --> 36:03.440 before we had the word podcasting, 36:03.440 --> 36:05.440 is that all those voices are fake. 36:05.440 --> 36:08.440 That's, you know, those are all broadcast voices. 36:08.440 --> 36:12.440 And, you know, it's, it's part of a machine. 36:12.440 --> 36:13.440 That's okay. 36:13.440 --> 36:14.440 It's not a problem. 36:14.440 --> 36:16.440 But there's almost no even public radio 36:16.440 --> 36:18.440 doesn't do us justice anymore. 36:18.440 --> 36:19.440 And it's the same. 36:19.440 --> 36:21.440 It's actually, it's the, you have the NPR voices. 36:21.440 --> 36:24.440 So I think that's part of what the excitement is about. 36:24.440 --> 36:28.440 It's just all this fresh new voices, people talking like real people 36:28.440 --> 36:32.440 with all the warts and all the ugliness hanging off of the shows. 36:32.440 --> 36:34.440 It's, it's a human thing. 36:34.440 --> 36:36.440 And maybe we're just, you know, maybe it's just time for it. 36:36.440 --> 36:38.440 Maybe our brains have been overloaded. 36:38.440 --> 36:42.440 Now in many other countries, radio doesn't suck as bad. 36:42.440 --> 36:44.440 The UK, for instance, 36:44.440 --> 36:48.440 was a very nice, you know, community of podcasters. 36:48.440 --> 36:51.440 I believe that the, of course, I missed it because I was here. 36:51.440 --> 36:53.440 It was the podcast con UK. 36:53.440 --> 36:55.440 It was very, very successful. 36:55.440 --> 36:59.440 I know they had well over 100 podcasters come to the convention. 36:59.440 --> 37:02.440 You know, that was, it was a big success. 37:02.440 --> 37:06.440 But it's not, you know, it's not the same rampantness 37:06.440 --> 37:07.440 that we see here in the States. 37:07.440 --> 37:09.440 And that's because the BBC doesn't suck. 37:09.440 --> 37:11.440 They do great stuff. 37:11.440 --> 37:17.440 And even though they, they do have the, you know, the radio voices, 37:17.440 --> 37:20.440 they're just so much more creative in what they're doing with radio. 37:20.440 --> 37:23.440 And it's not all the same. 37:23.440 --> 37:25.440 And also, you know, there are those, of course, 37:25.440 --> 37:28.440 there's the time shifting element that's a part of podcasting, 37:28.440 --> 37:29.440 which is very exciting. 37:29.440 --> 37:31.440 So if there's a show that you like on the radio, 37:31.440 --> 37:32.440 nothing wrong with it. 37:32.440 --> 37:33.440 And it doesn't have to suck. 37:33.440 --> 37:35.440 And now you can listen to it whenever you want to. 37:35.440 --> 37:37.440 So that's all good news. 37:37.440 --> 37:39.440 Germany, same way. 37:39.440 --> 37:40.440 You know, the rate well. 37:41.440 --> 37:43.440 I don't know. I think that some parts of Germany, 37:43.440 --> 37:45.440 I am seeing a little blip of podcasting. 37:45.440 --> 37:47.440 Oh, man, someone sent me a Google map. 37:47.440 --> 37:49.440 I'll have to look for that in Gmail. 37:49.440 --> 37:52.440 Someone sent me a Google map, which listed, 37:52.440 --> 37:55.440 which showed by geography where the podcasters are. 37:55.440 --> 37:57.440 And it really gives you a good idea. 37:57.440 --> 38:01.440 And if you know anything about, about traditional terrestrial broadcast radio, 38:01.440 --> 38:04.440 you'll know that most of those countries, the radio really sucks. 38:04.440 --> 38:06.440 So it's a listener demand thing. 38:06.440 --> 38:08.440 This is different from web logs. 38:09.440 --> 38:14.440 The inherent desire and opportunity to publish for free, 38:14.440 --> 38:17.440 so that everybody can read you and read your opinion. 38:17.440 --> 38:19.440 Yes, of course. 38:19.440 --> 38:22.440 People are opinionated on podcasts and are passionate about topics 38:22.440 --> 38:24.440 that hear nothing about on the radio. 38:24.440 --> 38:26.440 And that's why they're making them. 38:26.440 --> 38:30.440 The reason why people are listening is because it's just bad. 38:30.440 --> 38:32.440 Go ahead, turn on the radio. 38:32.440 --> 38:33.440 Tell me it isn't different. 38:33.440 --> 38:34.440 Any market you go to. 38:34.440 --> 38:36.440 Tell me your radio station is different. 38:36.440 --> 38:40.440 Well, it's there, probably, but it really is in the minority. 38:40.440 --> 38:44.440 And here in the States, we have such wonderful inventions 38:44.440 --> 38:48.440 that we can talk about in podcasting, such as wrestling. 38:48.440 --> 38:49.440 Yes. 38:55.440 --> 38:56.440 Am I on? 38:56.440 --> 38:57.440 Hi Adam, this is wiggly. 38:57.440 --> 38:59.440 Yeah, I am. 38:59.440 --> 39:01.440 No, it's not. 39:01.440 --> 39:02.440 Well, yeah, it is. 39:02.440 --> 39:04.440 It's really wiggly, but I don't really talk like... 39:05.440 --> 39:06.440 Open mind. 39:06.440 --> 39:10.440 Hi Adam and Adam's listeners and me, 39:10.440 --> 39:12.440 because I listen to Adam. 39:12.440 --> 39:14.440 Hi Adam. 39:14.440 --> 39:16.440 This is wiggly. 39:16.440 --> 39:20.440 My buddy, Joe and I might let me start over. 39:20.440 --> 39:22.440 This is going to be terrible to edit. 39:24.440 --> 39:25.440 This is now snow. 39:25.440 --> 39:27.440 This is sweet and sour, Larry. 39:27.440 --> 39:29.440 We need to visit this one for now. 39:29.440 --> 39:32.440 And you're looking at your smart, wrestling fan.com. 39:33.440 --> 39:35.440 Hi Adam, this is wiggly. 39:35.440 --> 39:37.440 My buddy, Joe and I have a little podcast called 39:37.440 --> 39:40.440 smart, wrestling fan, wrestling review show. 39:40.440 --> 39:42.440 For smart, wrestlingfan.com, 39:42.440 --> 39:45.440 now each week we review pro style wrestling, 39:45.440 --> 39:48.440 we see on television, paper views, 39:48.440 --> 39:49.440 or live in in person. 39:49.440 --> 39:54.440 Like the WWE, ECW, TNA, ring of honor, 39:54.440 --> 39:58.440 Chikara, independent wrestling, pro wrestling, 39:58.440 --> 39:59.440 Pupu. 40:00.440 --> 40:02.440 Mud wrestling. 40:02.440 --> 40:04.440 Well, we don't get egg. 40:04.440 --> 40:07.440 Any other type of wrestling? 40:07.440 --> 40:10.440 Found wrestling. 40:10.440 --> 40:12.440 No, we don't. 40:12.440 --> 40:15.440 She listens to his show, because sometimes it's funny. 40:15.440 --> 40:18.440 Now 80% of the people I listen to are show, 40:18.440 --> 40:20.440 have stopped watching wrestling a long time ago, 40:20.440 --> 40:24.440 because they thought the storylines absolutely stunk. 40:24.440 --> 40:27.440 And then people that love wrestling listen to our show, 40:27.440 --> 40:31.440 people that are wrestlers listen to our show, 40:31.440 --> 40:36.440 and people that are necreative for wrestling listen to our show. 40:36.440 --> 40:39.440 And hey, new, with Zach Arnold, Zach Arnold, 40:39.440 --> 40:42.440 from poororesselpower.com. 40:42.440 --> 40:47.440 Runs down his Japan news report. 40:47.440 --> 40:50.440 And all the music that you hear in a show is all original. 40:50.440 --> 40:54.440 Either I've written it, or it's performed by my group, Rep. 40:55.440 --> 40:58.440 Now, I know what you might be thinking. 40:58.440 --> 41:00.440 I'm hungry. 41:00.440 --> 41:03.440 Well, you can always get a sandwich. 41:03.440 --> 41:07.440 You can also listen to our show while you eat your sandwich. 41:07.440 --> 41:10.440 So that's good, you know? 41:10.440 --> 41:12.440 And that's what we try to do. 41:12.440 --> 41:14.440 We try to bring out what's good in this world, 41:14.440 --> 41:19.440 through a weekly, pro, style, wrestling, review show. 41:19.440 --> 41:22.440 I hope you like me, bye-bye. 41:22.440 --> 41:27.440 I like you. 41:27.440 --> 41:30.440 I like that show for the pod-safe music, 41:30.440 --> 41:32.440 some interesting tunes on there. 41:32.440 --> 41:34.440 If you haven't done so already, 41:34.440 --> 41:36.440 definitely check out the pod-safe music network. 41:36.440 --> 41:39.440 It's where podcasters pick up pod-safe music 41:39.440 --> 41:41.440 to play on there on that podcast, 41:41.440 --> 41:44.440 and you can see what the most popular and most played shows are. 41:44.440 --> 41:47.440 Most played, well, also shows with most played songs. 41:47.440 --> 41:50.440 And you welcome there as a podcaster, as an artist, or as a listener. 41:50.440 --> 41:54.440 All on the pod-safe music network at music.pod-show.com. 41:54.440 --> 41:56.440 Now it's going to say something really cool, 41:56.440 --> 41:59.440 but of course I forgot immediately what I was going to talk about. 41:59.440 --> 42:01.440 Oh yes, I know. 42:01.440 --> 42:04.440 It's good to have Yonpalette back in the house. 42:04.440 --> 42:07.440 Oh, I'm counting casting with Adam Curry. 42:07.440 --> 42:11.440 I suppose you think you know everybody was like, 42:11.440 --> 42:14.440 yeah, what do you think you're doing? 42:14.440 --> 42:15.440 The artist. 42:15.440 --> 42:19.440 Yonpalette with Yonpalette. 42:20.440 --> 42:22.440 Hey Adam, I'm back from New York City. 42:22.440 --> 42:24.440 I'm still a bit jet-lect, 42:24.440 --> 42:26.440 but I do have a hit test for you. 42:26.440 --> 42:27.440 Still from the notebook. 42:27.440 --> 42:31.440 I haven't had the time to gear up everything that's here in the studio, 42:31.440 --> 42:34.440 so one last time I guess with the notebook. 42:34.440 --> 42:37.440 Three intros and three answers, and this is number one. 42:41.440 --> 42:43.440 I know that one. 42:43.440 --> 42:46.440 The illustrious in excess need you tonight. 42:46.440 --> 42:49.440 Hope you make it harder for me, Yonpalette. 42:49.440 --> 42:51.440 And number two. 42:51.440 --> 42:54.440 Oh, I love that job. 42:54.440 --> 42:59.440 I think I think that's the raw band with clouds across the moon. 42:59.440 --> 43:01.440 I'm not sure, but big one hit wonder. 43:01.440 --> 43:04.440 And the final one is number three. 43:08.440 --> 43:12.440 I'd recognize that opening for that simply red holding back the years. 43:12.440 --> 43:15.440 I think I've got three for three here in this time. 43:16.440 --> 43:17.440 And times up. 43:17.440 --> 43:19.440 And these are the answers. 43:19.440 --> 43:22.440 This is answer number one in hit test number 59. 43:22.440 --> 43:23.440 Oh yeah. 43:23.440 --> 43:24.440 It's in excess. 43:24.440 --> 43:26.440 This is an idiot tonight. 43:28.750 --> 44:04.440 [ Music ] 44:04.440 --> 44:06.440 And it's clear the involvement. 44:06.440 --> 44:11.440 I've got to let you know. 44:11.440 --> 44:14.440 You want to make it. 44:14.440 --> 44:16.440 And so number one in excess. 44:16.440 --> 44:19.440 And this is answer number two. 44:19.440 --> 44:21.440 Oh, shit. 44:21.440 --> 44:24.440 Now it's wrong. 44:24.440 --> 44:25.440 Same opening. 44:25.440 --> 44:28.440 It's Lisa's dance field. 44:28.750 --> 45:03.440 [ Music ] 45:03.440 --> 45:08.440 I don't need to know. 45:08.440 --> 45:10.440 Answer number two. 45:10.440 --> 45:11.440 Lisa's dance field. 45:11.440 --> 45:14.440 Oh, around the world. 45:14.440 --> 45:18.440 And this is the third and final answer in today's hit test. 45:18.440 --> 45:21.440 It's simply red holding back the years. 45:21.440 --> 45:26.440 Holding back the years. 45:26.440 --> 45:31.440 Thinking of the real test so long. 45:31.440 --> 45:46.440 [ Music ] 45:46.440 --> 45:55.440 I'll keep holding on. 45:55.440 --> 45:58.440 I'll keep holding on. 45:58.440 --> 46:00.440 The third answer today's hit test. 46:00.440 --> 46:03.440 It's number 59 holding back the years. 46:04.440 --> 46:07.440 Simply red in today's hit test. 46:07.440 --> 46:08.440 Well, that's it. 46:08.440 --> 46:16.440 I'm gonna try to connect everything to, I guess, cast lasted to record the next one with all the gear and the professional Mike here at help. 46:16.440 --> 46:23.440 As always, feedback is welcome at hittest.gmail.com and you can find info about this hittest. 46:23.440 --> 46:25.440 And hit this podcast. 46:25.440 --> 46:27.440 And of course, all the info on the blog. 46:27.440 --> 46:30.440 Let's come J and P-O-L-E-T.com. 46:30.440 --> 46:31.440 Well, thank you for listening. 46:31.440 --> 46:40.440 See you for hittest number 60 with more higher, bigger, greater production values. 46:40.440 --> 46:43.440 If I do have anything to do with it. 46:43.440 --> 46:45.440 So until then, bye-bye. 46:45.440 --> 46:46.440 Okay, thank you very much. 46:46.440 --> 46:48.440 I kind of like the new format. 46:48.440 --> 46:50.440 It seems like you're playing more of the song. 46:50.440 --> 46:51.440 It's nice. 46:51.440 --> 46:57.440 It's usually, I just, you know, I get right into the song and the hook and the chorus and then you're onto the next answer. 46:57.440 --> 46:58.440 Okay, two for three today. 46:58.440 --> 47:00.440 I could have sworn it was the raw band. 47:00.440 --> 47:01.440 Clouds across the moon. 47:01.440 --> 47:03.440 Do I have that song? 47:03.440 --> 47:06.440 I don't want you to hear what I'm talking about if I have it. 47:06.440 --> 47:11.440 Now that I have iTunes back, I'm actually sometimes able to find my music. 47:11.440 --> 47:16.440 Let me see clouds, search on clouds. 47:16.440 --> 47:17.440 Yes, okay. 47:17.440 --> 47:25.440 Tell me if this, if the first couple of notes here aren't exactly the same as Lisa Stanfield. 47:25.440 --> 47:27.440 Check this out. 47:27.440 --> 47:31.440 Well, you have to get through this piece first, right? 47:31.440 --> 47:36.440 Shit, doesn't sound like it at all, does it? 47:36.440 --> 47:38.440 But I do love this song. 47:38.440 --> 47:40.440 Check out the drum. 47:40.440 --> 47:41.440 Check it out when it kicks in. 47:41.440 --> 47:42.440 Yeah, no, no, no. 47:42.440 --> 47:45.440 I'm trying to reach like among the people. 47:45.440 --> 47:46.440 This is right. 47:46.440 --> 47:52.440 I just want you to hear the drum's cape in. 47:52.440 --> 47:53.440 Check it out. 47:53.440 --> 48:00.440 I kind of reminds me of Patricia and I. 48:00.440 --> 48:07.440 You've got to listen to it song, Rob and Clouds across the moon. 48:07.440 --> 48:13.440 You know, as a final thought for today is we're talking about show notes yesterday. 48:13.440 --> 48:16.440 And I tell you that show notes are very difficult to maintain. 48:16.440 --> 48:20.440 Because invariably, I put in a wrong link or someone sends in a whole bunch of information 48:20.440 --> 48:25.440 about a topic that I discussed that they know much more about. 48:25.440 --> 48:27.440 And, you know, it's hard to maintain that. 48:27.440 --> 48:30.440 It's really, it's a full-time job if you want to do it right. 48:30.440 --> 48:31.440 And I've never really done it right. 48:31.440 --> 48:34.440 You know, so you have kind of the way, you know, you have your prep. 48:34.440 --> 48:37.440 But then you have, which is nice to have it all lined up. 48:37.440 --> 48:41.440 But then really adding all that feedback in there is a complicated task. 48:42.440 --> 48:44.440 I got a whole bunch of suggestions. 48:44.440 --> 48:47.440 A lot of offers of people who wanted to help me do show notes. 48:47.440 --> 48:49.440 But there's really much better way to do it. 48:49.440 --> 48:52.440 And it didn't hit me until a two people emailed me this. 48:52.440 --> 48:54.440 Why not use a wiki? 48:54.440 --> 48:57.440 Now, if you don't know what a wiki is, check out wikipedia.org. 48:57.440 --> 48:58.440 You'll see. 48:58.440 --> 49:01.440 It's basically a collaborative writing environment. 49:01.440 --> 49:06.440 And the thought here is that the show notes are put together by the listeners. 49:06.440 --> 49:13.440 Now, there's several hundred thousand people who listen to the daily source code on a regular basis. 49:13.440 --> 49:15.440 That's a really amazing number. 49:15.440 --> 49:22.440 And, you know, within that audience, clearly there's people who know just shit loads more about what I'm talking about. 49:22.440 --> 49:32.440 And also, I'm skipping over so many different pieces of feedback that come through email on the biodiesel stuff on the sound advertising stuff. 49:32.440 --> 49:38.440 And, you know, and I look at Don and Drew and they have a forum where you can provide feedback. 49:38.440 --> 49:39.440 It's very, very active. 49:39.440 --> 49:40.440 So it makes a lot of sense. 49:40.440 --> 49:43.440 I think, though, that for the source code, I'd like to try this. 49:43.440 --> 49:45.440 I'd like to have a wiki. 49:45.440 --> 49:48.440 And so, basically, with each show, I'll just provide a URL. 49:48.440 --> 49:50.440 They'll say show notes over here, right? 49:50.440 --> 49:57.440 And then, whoever has information about what's been on the show in the rundown. 49:57.440 --> 50:00.440 Well, you know, you'll just figure it out because it's a collaborative environment. 50:00.440 --> 50:05.440 I can go in there myself and actually add some of the information to the show notes. 50:05.440 --> 50:11.440 So, but, you know, it'd be much more kind of a process that would evolve over time, 50:11.440 --> 50:14.440 which will get indexed by great search engines. 50:14.440 --> 50:17.440 And, of course, the question is, you know, how do we fit OPML into all of this? 50:17.440 --> 50:19.440 I haven't quite figured that one out yet. 50:19.440 --> 50:25.440 But then, over time, actually, the richness of the information that's provided with this podcast, 50:25.440 --> 50:28.440 particularly for people who are searching for something, 50:28.440 --> 50:30.440 will, you know, will become available. 50:30.440 --> 50:31.440 There'll be more of it. 50:31.440 --> 50:34.440 So, of course, the first thing I need is a wiki. 50:34.440 --> 50:36.440 I have no wiki expert. 50:36.440 --> 50:37.440 I don't know how to set it up. 50:37.440 --> 50:39.440 I've not looked at it at all. 50:39.440 --> 50:43.440 So, if you're still inclined to set something up, I'll link to it. 50:43.440 --> 50:44.440 And let's give this a try. 50:44.440 --> 50:50.440 Let's test that out for a couple of shows and see how it works and see if people want to collaborate on the show notes. 50:50.440 --> 50:52.440 And this could be lucrative for you, by the way. 50:53.440 --> 51:01.440 For example, with the hit test, by providing the answers, you could put links into iTunes for the tracks to be purchased directly. 51:01.440 --> 51:03.440 And it could be your affiliate link. 51:03.440 --> 51:08.440 So, you know, I'm hoping that I'm, you know, by saying this, I'm not creating a huge spam opportunity. 51:08.440 --> 51:10.440 But let's see, let's see what happens. 51:10.440 --> 51:13.440 So, that's the call to use source code listeners. 51:13.440 --> 51:17.440 I still have some stuff to do for a serious satellite radio, 51:17.440 --> 51:21.440 which we're going to talk about tomorrow because there's some exciting news going on there. 51:21.440 --> 51:25.440 And yeah, I think there's, there's an office here, isn't there? 51:25.440 --> 51:27.440 Yeah, there's, there's an office that I need to go to. 51:27.440 --> 51:29.440 Oh, and a final thought for the day. 51:29.440 --> 51:31.440 My God, I can't believe how long I'm talking. 51:31.440 --> 51:37.440 Final thought for the day is that podcasting has such an extra benefit for me, 51:37.440 --> 51:39.440 because we have a company now. 51:39.440 --> 51:43.440 We're working, probably, we have 20 people who are employed, 51:43.440 --> 51:47.440 yeah, things like 20 people who are employed by us directly. 51:47.440 --> 51:50.440 And most of them have a podcast. 51:50.440 --> 51:54.440 And so, even though I'm not in the office all the time, 51:54.440 --> 51:56.440 I know a hell of a lot about what's going on, 51:56.440 --> 52:00.440 because if you listen to the daily download, Chris Rockwell is talking about lots of pod show, 52:00.440 --> 52:02.440 things that have happened at pod show. 52:02.440 --> 52:08.440 Of course, things he talks about are more cultural to the organization than business. 52:08.440 --> 52:10.440 But it's funny, and it's great. 52:10.440 --> 52:14.440 And yeah, the sue, the super extra heroes, 52:14.440 --> 52:16.440 spider-man action show. 52:16.440 --> 52:18.440 I can never get that one right. 52:18.440 --> 52:22.440 And yes, you really get a vibe of the people that you're working with. 52:22.440 --> 52:24.440 And then I know the much more intimately than I would have, 52:24.440 --> 52:26.440 if they didn't have podcasts. 52:26.440 --> 52:28.440 I was listening to an old podcast by Andrew Grummit, 52:28.440 --> 52:31.440 which before, that was a pre, 52:31.440 --> 52:34.440 we should have a BC, it should be, 52:34.440 --> 52:40.440 because before podcast name, so it would be BP. 52:40.440 --> 52:44.440 Well, maybe BP, we call that BP, before podcast name. 52:44.440 --> 52:47.440 Andrew Grummit was, because he was one of the first developers 52:47.440 --> 52:50.440 that jump on and create, I Potter Lemon, 52:50.440 --> 52:52.440 and built a virtual team around that product, 52:52.440 --> 52:55.440 which just by the way came out with two new releases 52:55.440 --> 52:57.440 for both Mac and Windows. 52:57.440 --> 53:00.440 And we're working with Andrew on stuff, 53:00.440 --> 53:03.440 and just hearing him talk and his thoughts, 53:03.440 --> 53:05.440 then really gave me a whole bunch of insight 53:05.440 --> 53:07.440 as to how we're working together now. 53:07.440 --> 53:10.440 And it's a real family vibe, and it's working, 53:10.440 --> 53:12.440 and it's very, very cool. 53:12.440 --> 53:14.440 And it's not something that every company can do, 53:14.440 --> 53:17.440 but I think a lot of companies could benefit hugely, 53:17.440 --> 53:20.440 hugely if you could just tap into kind of, 53:20.440 --> 53:23.440 thought processes from other people in the organization. 53:23.440 --> 53:25.440 All right, with that said, I got to get out of here. 53:25.440 --> 53:27.440 I'm way over my time. 53:27.440 --> 53:30.440 I hope you stuck through all this, 53:30.440 --> 53:32.440 and I will be back for the thank God, 53:32.440 --> 53:34.440 it's Friday edition of the Source Code. 53:34.440 --> 53:35.440 That'll be tomorrow, bye, bye. 53:36.440 --> 53:39.440 Another pod show pod guest, 53:39.440 --> 53:41.440 stick it in your ear.