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Delta share Charlie,
two-fiber-two!

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Please save me from people
who've been told what to like
and then like it.

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In my opinion, if you're over
six years of age and you're
still getting your music from
the radio,

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something is desperately wrong
with you.

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I can only hope that somehow MP3
players and file sharing will
destroy FM radio

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the way they're destroying
record companies.

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Then, even though the air will
probably never be safe to
breathe again,

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maybe it will be safer to listen
to it.

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There are no secrets.

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Only information you don't get
out of!

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Adam Curry!

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With $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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In the next generation, radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
this church.

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It is Monday, October 3rd in the
near.

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Screw that.

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In the year of our Lord, 2005, I
sort of wanted to say,

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hey, everybody, how you doing?

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Come to you from Curry Cottage
in Gilford, United Kingdom.

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That's right, back home with the
girls.

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This is your daily source code,
kind of free wheeling it today,

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but I'm stacked up on promos and
pod save tunes.

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We are guaranteed to have a full
show today.

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Actually, we had something
interesting happened this
morning.

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I didn't hear about it until
early we had a eclipse.

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It was kind of weird, because it
wasn't, of course, a full
eclipse.

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You have to be closer to the
equator to really get that kind
of stuff.

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Definitely did go dark for about
10, 15 minutes.

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As we were up bright and early,
Christina has an audition this
morning.

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She had one at 8 o'clock,
auditioning for a big school
play,

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which is based on the life of
Lizzy Borden.

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Oh, yeah, that's my daughter for
you.

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So it's really weird.

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Most of the animals include the
birds,

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primarily we're really kind of
freaking out about this weird,

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like twilight that we had around
730 this morning.

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And then at a quarter of eight
it really started to set.

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I think 815 was the darkest
moment.

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And then it just started to get
light again.

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And the birds kind of acted up
again.

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It was one of those freaky, cool
nature things.

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That, of course, I completely
forgot to take pictures of.

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And that's why you've got such a
small handy camera, you know?

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I'm such a dork.

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Kicking it off with a mashup on
today's source code.

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This came from a DJ Quad.

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Sorry, I came from Phil who's
promoting DJ Quad.

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The mashup guy from Cat and the
Girl.

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And he suggests a mash-off
spin-off.

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Let's see what their entry is.

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When I want to see you,

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[ Music ]

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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I won't do what I want to do.

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God bless.

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Oh, man.

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That fusing sound feels like me.

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My ears are cooked through my
butt.

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That's really rough.

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The full story is that Phil
Eugenio is sent to me for the
sea.

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He said that jam to this broth.

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Let's have a mashup contest.

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DJ Quad of Keith and the
Gorillir vs Art that guy tries
to mash up.

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He's okay, but lowerly flan of
Keith and the Gorillir can mash
up.

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Like none other.

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Just listen.

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of mashuptown.com, which is way
different from him doing all the
mashups that I play.

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So I don't think that'll be any
competition we want to enter
into.

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This was kind of cool though,
but it seemed like I was missing
at least a quarter of the mashup

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that just wasn't a part of the
file that was sent.

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But I liked it.

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I liked it definitely, very,
very cool.

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I'm liking the mashups.

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So back now, back for a couple
of days, of course I got inside
of the morning, I'd slept

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for like five hours on the
plane, which was pretty good.

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Seeing as it's only only a nine
and a half hour flight, you
know, with your, I was

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fall asleep the minute the
engines rev up though.

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That's, you know, the minute you
hit rotation from the runway,
when the, when the nose wheel

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lifts off, I'm asleep, I'm
asleep for a half an hour an
hour, you know, and then I'm

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going to wake up and get into
the vibe and what I watched the
movie, the hell that

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I watched.

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I don't remember what it was, I
can't remember what I watched.

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But slept well, got in around,
you know, the typical 1030,
customs was pretty busy, even

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for the fast track.

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We've talked about that, right?

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It's the pink little slip you
get and then you can go through
a special line, but even

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the fast track was slow.

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And back at the cottage round
12, it was great seeing the
girls.

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We had a great weekend, it was
great catching up, we just talk
and talk and talk and talk

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and talk and talk and so much
that on Sunday, Patricia, I did
a special podcast going

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through an hours worth of pod
save music that I've played over
the past couple of weeks

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and basically getting her input
on it, which was kind of
interesting.

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And I realized that you may be
listening, you may be listening
to that today instead of

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this show, depending on what
you, what kind of time you had
on your Sunday, to listen

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to an hour of our, our futsing
around, but it was fun.

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I love doing shows with Patricia
and to maybe I can get on more
often, but it did get

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a whole, whole thought process
rolling in my head about pod
safe music and production,

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and not talking about audio
quality, but, you know, as
Patricia would call it, another

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set of ears, you know, just
someone listening to stuff,
which, of course, is a value

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ad that record companies and ANR
people give to their artists,
which, you know, we don't

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really have, well, I guess we
have a super benefit as it
pertains to pod safe music
because

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you have a whole audience that
will work with you on Chris,
like software.

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There's no, I don't see any
difference between creating a
software program, you know,

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why shouldn't you have a beta of
the song?

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I think you can definitely have
it.

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Here's the beta.

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We used to call that a demo, but
there was really nothing between
demo and release candidate.

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It was always that's it, you
know, you go from, from the O.1
version straight to the

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1.0 version.

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Maybe we should consider more,
had this more of it be more of
an iterative process.

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I don't even know what that
means, but it sounds pretty
expensive.

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I don't know what that means,
but it sounds pretty expensive.

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I don't know what that means,
but it sounds pretty expensive.

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Anyway, just a thought.

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And we'll get to that little bit
later on.

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I have some ideas for the pod
safe music networks and stuff
that I want to throw out there

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and see what comes back.

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As I said, plenty of promo is
lined up.

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I got it a question the other
day, someone said, you know, you
asked for promo is what?

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It is a promo.

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I said, well, you should listen
to the source code because I
play a lot of them.

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And promo is basically small
little audio vignettes or the
column of commercial.

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There you go.

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It's an advertisement for your
show.

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It's a way to hook people into,
to getting them to listen to and
hopefully subscribe

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to your show, to your podcast.

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And there's many ways to do it.

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One way is to play snippets and
say, you know, here's the stuff
you're missing if

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you don't listen to our show
immediately and the other one is
to really show what kind

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of personality you are or maybe
have multiple people.

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There's a whole bunch of ways to
do it.

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Ways like, well, you could
always use this tactic.

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This is John Long.

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I am wanting to know whether you
understand Hawkins.

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As Lucy binangilana, I see
Taiwan and Langheil, a healthy
alcoholic want to see Lu,

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Pyunnamil, J-o, Hong Kong.

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I don't understand Hawkins.

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For a time, I want to know how
much Arthur is most in Australia
but I don't know

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what the look up Mc Doom is
looking for.

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She said Mouse, a colored
Runner, dio, a可以, a mencioner, a
person.

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That's her standard, a right
approach.

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The best way to understand
Hawkins is to build a journey.

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Lure Theory and Autism Analysis.

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Take off your helmets.

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Just do it.

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And it's too smooth to see.

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Reddit and so on.

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You have your PE and ANG,
H-O-K-K-I-E-N.com, okay, bye,
everyone.

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So there was just a message out
there to all the Huck-In people
who understand Huck-In.

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I'm studying a new podcast.

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I'm studying a new podcast
called PenangHuck-In.com,
PE-N-A-N-G, H-O-K-K-I-E-N.com.

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It's all about Huck-In podcast.

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Gender Parts

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Bump bridge down there.

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There isn't a sûre.

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It thrown in the backstage and
the acting boss is behind.

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H-O-K-I-N-F-H-O.

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Because otherwise, who knows
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This week on the squad cast, we
take on the snooze chewing
tobacco challenge.

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By the way, didn't you describe
what this looks like to the
folks at home and we'll take a

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serious drag of coffee grind?

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It does look like a little tiny.

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It's like a bag of coffee.

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You can do one or two things now
to it.

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You can do it.

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You know what?

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You know what I'm going to do?

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What?

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I'm going to beg you both.

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I'm going to beg you both.

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Unless you both want to die in
the next four minutes.

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Shut the fuck up.

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I've locked mine into the front
of my jaw.

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You know, it just sound like
like a tard.

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You sound like you've had a
stroke.

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They're currently at the number
nine show.

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Are we after tonight's episode?

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We are short to never see the
top 10 again.

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No, you will.

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You just will as the Anthony and
Larry Shaw.

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Mine is us.

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We're going to be late us.

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Nancy and Barbara passed out.

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I mean Nancy and Barbara.

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Brian wants to know which one he
is.

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Squad cast, squad cast.

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Gmail.com.

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Squad cast, squad cast, dot com.

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Who?

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Okay.

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Some fine examples of promos
there.

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That's really here.

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Well, I read mainly.

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And also here, you know,
podcasters about the daily
source code and one of the
common

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complaints is, you know, who the
hell cares about Adam Curry's
life?

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Well, of course, that's not the
point.

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The point is this is the show
where if you're new to pod
casting and you want to

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find out about some interesting
shows, you might want to listen
to.

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Here's the place to pick them up
through listening to promos.

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And of course, going to the show
notes and you know, finding out
where to

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where to find these shows.

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And the other part is, you know,
trying to develop pod casting.

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We are not done.

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I was talking to Andrew Grummit
this morning.

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He was on his way out to San
Francisco.

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He's going to come by the pod
show offices.

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It's going to be there for a
week or so.

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And we're going to work on ways
that we can work together.

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And it's just so much more to do
as it when it comes to pod
casting.

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So, and primarily from the, of
course, from the pod cast or
side.

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The work that we've been doing
with Mike on cast blaster is.

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I think an example of that, how
much and you can pretty much see
what we're going with with

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cast blaster.

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It's going to be a fully
integrated solution.

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Obviously, you won't have to
worry about creating RSS feeds
and show blogs and up

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FTP and uploading and doing ID3
tags.

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All of that will just be built
into one simple process.

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You know, step one step two and
there is no step three.

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But on the listener side, we're
far from done.

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You know, and there's a reason
why if you look at, if you look
at the television networks this
past week in the

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States, although I don't have a
television, I pretty much know
it's always the same anyway.

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So, they roll out their new
lineup and there's, there's a
lot of promo going on there,
boy.

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I tell you, the cool thing about
pod casting is you only have to
promo once.

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Once you get the person to
subscribe to your show, you're
pretty much,

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sure that you've got them, you
know, that's your audience.

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And then, if they don't like it,
then they'll unsubscribe.

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Which, by the way, is one thing
that we could really do.

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Wouldn't that be cool if you
knew if someone unsubscribe?

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Yeah, I'd love to know that.

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I'd love to be able to say, hey,
I saw you unsubscribe.

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Is there a reason why?

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Is there anything I can do to
make it better to bring you
back?

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And, of course, on mainstream
media, traditional broadcast
radio and television,

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there is no subscription.

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Well, there is, of course, with
Tivo.

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That's, I guess that's true.

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But there is, you know, they
continuously have to promo to
keep your attention.

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And there's a reason why stuff
comes back at the same time
every week, you know, that's, so
they can,

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so you can be trained.

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But now we just train our
devices much, much easier,
unlike it.

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A couple of emails about bio
diesel.

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Just going through the Gmail
here.

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Hold on a second.

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Let me turn the laptop a bit.

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Let's see, this is from Danny
Boyle.

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Did you know that oil from hemp
seeds is one of the highest part
in the pun.

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BTUs per unit of all the bio
fuels and it grows like a weed.

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Says Danny Boyle.

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Well, of course.

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That would make, of course it
does.

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In fact, I once did a
documentary in Jamaica about Bob
Marley and met up with,

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oh man, he was one of his best
friends.

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And I've totally forgetting his
name.

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He runs the the museum at
Marley's house in Kingston.

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And he said, you know, this, the
Oli herb.

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It burns hotter than coal.

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And I've never forgotten that.

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Another thing about, I have to
read you this article about bio
fuel.

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Hold on.

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I just got to click on this
link.

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A couple of people sent me this
one.

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See, who sent this?

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This is from Gary Hall.

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Yeah.

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And Gary sent me this link about
French President Jacques Girac.

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I'll just read this to you.

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He's joined the country.

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France is push to boost bio fuel
use.

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Converting his own luxury
Citroen C6 saloon, which is a
huge, huge car.

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And many of his official scars
to run on cleaner burning bio
diesel.

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Fuel pumps at his Aleyzay Palace
in Central Paris have been
modified to provide the
alternative fuel.

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The President's car runs with
bio diesel made from rapeseed.

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As do half the Aleyzay cars, a
spokeswoman said on Friday.

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France, Europe's biggest
agricultural producer, has
announced plans to become
Europe's leading bio fuel maker
by 2010.

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When it wants, a green fuel is
to fill 7% of total consumption.

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France produces both bio diesel
made from mostly rapeseed.

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An ethanol derived from sugar
beet or cereals.

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And of course, Shirok is a
former agricultural minister.

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And so he's a big champion of
the farmers' causes.

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That's a story on the Yahoo,
which I guess is what it's at
AP.

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It's an AP, a Reuters story.

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That's pretty interesting,
though.

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And it isn't detrue.

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I've gotten all the details now.

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If you use vegetable oil as fuel
for your vehicle in the United
Kingdom,

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you have to pay the tax man.

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And there's actually a form that
you fill out and send the check
to.

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TruckerLew from truckerLew.com.

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Hey, truckerLew.

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In the rain, this thing to your
podcast here for about the last
month or so.

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And you've been talking a lot
about bio diesel.

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And I'm all 4 bio diesel.

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I think bio diesel would
definitely be the way to go.

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And here in the United States,
tractor trailers, or commercial
motor vehicles,

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are the number one consumer of
diesel in here in the United
States.

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And anything to get the price to
drop would be excellent.

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I don't have to worry too much
about the price of a diesel,

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but I'm driving a company
vehicle.

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So I don't actually have to pay
for the fuel out of my pocket,

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but my company does.

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So many money that they can save
means more money in my pocket,

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because I can give me raises at
a later date.

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And diesel is cheaper in the
United States,

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simply because car, you know,

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automobiles use more gasoline
here than they do diesel.

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And I don't know if it's that
way in the United Kingdom,

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but I do have one question about
bio diesel.

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And this would affect the
average homemaker or home
producer of bio diesel.

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I don't, you may have addressed
this before, I don't know,

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but any United States when
you're operating a motor
vehicle,

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whether it's commercial or
private motor vehicle on any
public road,

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the fuel that you use or the
fuel that you purchase.

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When you purchase the fuel,
you're paying taxes,

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as well as paying for the price
of the actual fuel,

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which can be anywhere from a 40
to 80 cents of tax per gallon.

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When you're operating a motor
vehicle and you're using fuel

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that you have not purchased,

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that means that you're not
paying the taxes on it.

20:35.600 --> 20:39.600
And if you're not paying the
taxes on it,

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you're operating the motor
vehicle on the highway.

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That opens up to the potential
of a tax evasion.

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And I'm not sure if you looked
up the rules on that.

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Yeah, that's the way that I
understand it.

20:53.600 --> 20:55.600
I could be entirely wrong.

20:55.600 --> 20:59.600
I think it's exactly what's
happening here in the UK,

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where if you use a certain
substance as fuel,

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you have to pay tax over it.

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I mean, that's something that is
nothing to do with the scarcity
of a natural resource.

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That's just taxes, you can put
taxes on anything.

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There are taxes on cigarettes,
taxes on booze,

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so why not taxes on biofuels?

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But that's a different gain.

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That's something that you got to
change at the voting booth.

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I'm sorry about that.

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Wow, really overmodulated.

21:29.600 --> 21:35.600
Yeah, something at the voting
booth that you got to get your
guys in there who are going to
represent what you think is
fair.

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I want to come to taxation.

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And by the way, even though
you're driving a company truck,

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higher fuel prices are going to
just put strain on the company.

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If it doesn't affect your future
compensation,

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it could affect many jobs.

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That's just the way it goes.

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It really sucks.

21:56.600 --> 21:59.600
So I'm way, I think it's a
perfect way to go.

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And then if the government puts
taxes on biofuels,

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well that's different, that's a
different issue.

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It's not that the natural
resource has doubled in price

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in a very short amount of time.

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Well, not double, I guess.

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Well, actually $60.

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I've seen $30 barrel of oil in
the last five years,

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I think.

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So yeah, it has pretty much
doubled.

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So yeah, if there's a tax on it,

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you'll have to pay a tax for it.

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But until there's a tax, you
don't have to, I guess.

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But I figured I just dropped
this little voice message.

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And see if you have anything to
say about that.

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And whether or not you've
actually explored it.

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So there's more things than just
making it.

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There's a lot of legal
ramifications in there.

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And by the way, it is the United
States of America.

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We take matters into our own
hands, dammit.

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If we want to crap in our tanks
to make it go and avoid all
those

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prices, expensive fuels, we'll
do it.

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And then if we want need to talk
tax, we will.

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That need to be, that need to be
explored.

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So if you get a chance to
explore this, taking, putting it
up in your podcast

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and let everybody know because
I'm interested in it.

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I do have a diesel vehicle at
home.

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And if I could figure out a way
to cheaply produce my own,

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my own biodiesel, I do that for
the same way.

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I have to be home to do it.

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I'm driving a tractor trailer.

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And I'm gone four weeks out of
the month.

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So I'm only home three days or
so a month.

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Damn.

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You hear that?

23:45.600 --> 23:48.600
I thought I had it bad with two
weeks on two weeks off,

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but home three days of the
month, dude.

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Whew, that's rough.

23:54.600 --> 23:59.600
You must take a month off
somewhere to be with your
family, I hope.

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That's the backbone, man.

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Truckers backbone of America.

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Backbone of any country, really,
I guess.

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That's a rough gig.

24:11.600 --> 24:15.600
Anyway, I just figured I'd bring
that to your attention

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and see what your input was on
that.

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And you know, being in the
trucking industry,

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diesel production is very
important to me.

24:28.600 --> 24:31.600
You can check me out over at
truckerlude.com.

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And I do kind of like a stream
of consciousness type podcast.

24:34.600 --> 24:40.600
And so I'm always talking about
the trucking industry over
there.

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So I guess as about all we got
for now,

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we'll talk to you later.

24:45.600 --> 24:47.600
I'm going to post this up for a
file,

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and I'm going to email a link to
you here.

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So I hope you have fun and we'll
talk to you later.

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Appreciate it.

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Truckerlude?

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That's another great way to
promote your show.

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Feedback, that's something we're
talking about here.

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So everything continues.

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I encourage anyone who has links
to home-making,

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biodiesel websites and kits and
organizations.

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To put them up in the show notes
on the wiki show notes,

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which actually a couple of
people have come to me and said,

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hey, my name's wiki.

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So I guess I got to figure out
something

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for those folks to do.

25:27.600 --> 25:28.600
Who knows?

25:28.600 --> 25:32.600
It turns out it's a pretty
common Hawaiian name.

25:32.600 --> 25:36.600
So that was really smart of me,
A.

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Let me see.

25:37.600 --> 25:41.600
I wanted to tell you a story
about something that was
relative to.

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You know, let me see.

25:43.600 --> 25:44.600
Why don't we take a break?

25:44.600 --> 25:45.600
Why don't we do something?

25:45.600 --> 25:47.600
Let's just break the rhythm here
for a second

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and get into some non-podsave
music.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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You need to start.

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There we go.

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Backtracks podcast.

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So you think you know your hits
backwards and forwards?

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No, I just...

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Yeah, right.

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You're listening to the
Backtracks podcast exclusively

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on the daily source code with
Adam Curry.

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Hey, Adam.

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Hey, are you doing it?

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You're doing pretty good.

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We might have to make this a
little bit more difficult for
you.

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Please.

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Okay.

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Challenge me.

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Number one.

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I know it already.

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Oh, yeah.

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Um, that is Robbie Neville with
St. Levy.

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St. Levy.

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St. Levy.

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Number two.

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Sounds like Thomas Goldby.

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Let me come back to you.

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Time's up.

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Number three.

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You can hear it.

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Car Wash Rose Royce.

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I know I got to do it.

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Time's up.

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Okay, here are the answers.

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Number one.

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Goldby.

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Uh-huh.

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Say Love E.

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And here's number two.

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Oh, okay.

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You're coming, saw.

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Number three.

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Are you ready?

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Are you ready?

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Are you ready?

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Are you ready?

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Uh-huh.

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Uh-huh.

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Oh, uh-huh.

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Oh, uh-huh.

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Oh, uh-huh.

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Oh, uh-huh.

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So how did you do, Adam?

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You're out of three.

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Not bad.

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Thanks for joining us on this
week's Backtrack Spotcast quiz.

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You can visit Backtrack Spotcast
on the web at
BacktrackSponcast.com.

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Catch you next time.

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Backtrack Spotcast.

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Spin it back.

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I love the production of that.

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Uh-huh.

28:18.600 --> 28:22.600
I'm telling you, I'm pretty good
at that.

28:22.600 --> 28:25.600
Let's see a couple of emails
about my Blackberry.

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How's it doing?

28:27.600 --> 28:28.600
Did it work?

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Uh, yes it did.

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Very, very pleased with the
performance of the Blackberry
arrived in the UK email work.

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Voice mail worked.

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Phone calls worked.

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Um, I told you I had this whole
setup with Skype, which, because
of course I have my UK cell
phone,

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which I would take with me.

28:45.400 --> 28:49.400
I mean, I've, I have my numbers
were all over the map and, and
the problem really is,

28:49.400 --> 28:55.600
and this does really piss me
off, is you can get your, you
know, so here's T mobile, right?

28:55.600 --> 28:58.600
It doesn't matter because they
all do the same, where there's a
vote of phone, orange,

28:58.600 --> 29:03.600
T mobile, you know, or in the
States, Verizon, uh, singular is
actually the best for us,

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and I'll tell you why.

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Because I have, so I have my
team mobile, uh, my MDA.

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I've gotten, you know, my data
accounts and everything.

29:10.600 --> 29:17.600
And when you go overseas, you
get penalized that to no end,
uh, for using your phone,

29:17.600 --> 29:21.600
which, of course, has driven me
to, to get a provider over in
the States.

29:21.600 --> 29:22.600
You know, it's so stupid.

29:22.600 --> 29:23.600
They charred.

29:23.600 --> 29:24.600
They want to charge me.

29:24.600 --> 29:29.600
See, if I call from London to
the US, anywhere in the US, you
can pay an extra, you know,

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10 a month or something, and
then you get 10 cents.

29:32.600 --> 29:35.600
20 US dollar cents, by the way,
I give a take.

29:35.600 --> 29:39.600
Uh, which is still expensive to
call any number in the US.

29:39.600 --> 29:43.600
Now, when you take your phone
over there, it'll cost you 90
pens.

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So almost like a buck 80 to
call, uh, overseas from, uh,
from the US.

29:51.600 --> 29:56.600
So to call back, it cost you a
multiple of what it cost to call
from the UK to the States.

29:56.600 --> 29:59.600
So of course, we know that's
horseshit.

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And incoming calls cost 80 pens,
a buck 50 buck 60 for an ink per
minute.

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Per minute for an incoming call.

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You know, and so, um, they're
losing out.

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It's so incredibly dumb the way
they do this.

30:15.600 --> 30:20.600
So you, there's no, really,
there is no global carrier, you
know, and I just don't
understand

30:20.600 --> 30:22.600
why they can't get that
together.

30:22.600 --> 30:25.600
You know, why the prices, I
mean, are they just trying to
rape consumers?

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Because we're not stupid.

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I mean, yeah, for ease of use,
maybe I'll take a call or two.

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But, you know, so now here's how
I've set it up.

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When someone calls my UK cell
phone, that automatically
forwards to a UK Skype in
number,

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which means it's a very cheap
call.

30:40.600 --> 30:43.600
Because of course, you know,
when you're using your cell
phone over here and calling,

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local, you know, UK numbers that
are not going to charge a hell
of a lot for that.

30:47.600 --> 30:51.600
The cell phone company's finally
figured that one out.

30:52.600 --> 30:59.600
But then I have Skype set up so
that it forwards through Skype
out to my US cell phone.

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How cool is that?

31:00.600 --> 31:05.600
So the total charges are maybe
per minute.

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I think it's two cents, two euro
cents per minute to Skype out to
the states.

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And it's probably about, um,
it's probably for the local
call, the forward that I'm doing

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from a UK local, the UK local.

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It's probably about 10 pens.

31:23.600 --> 31:28.600
So it's still, you know, a good
$25, 30 US dollar cents to do
this.

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But, you know, look, the look is
making the money.

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You know, Skype is making the
money on this.

31:34.600 --> 31:35.600
It's totally stupid.

31:35.600 --> 31:36.600
Just can't believe.

31:36.600 --> 31:39.600
And then when I call home, I
call the Skype in number.

31:39.600 --> 31:44.600
I got one of those Skype phones
for Patricia, one of those
cordless Skype phones.

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And I call just a US based
number.

31:47.600 --> 31:51.600
And it actually sounds better
than when I call her over the BT
phone line.

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It's not, man.

31:53.600 --> 31:54.600
I'm telling you.

31:54.600 --> 31:56.600
It's freaking nuts.

31:56.600 --> 31:57.600
Wow.

31:57.600 --> 32:02.600
It's so simple to see when
you're down here in the trenches
with the rest of the users of
the technology.

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Let me see if there's anything
else that I wanted to hit here.

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There was something about
education.

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Yeah, it's always nice to see
that.

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From Stephen C. Graves, I guess
it's C.

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I guess it's C. Graves.

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Just wanted to share a new
avenue that podcasting is taking
on here.

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My university at College of
Education has incorporated
podcasting to help their
students and faculty receive
information and training.

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It's good content, especially
for the future teachers here.

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Just want to share that with
you.

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It's great to see podcasting
taken off like this.

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And I'll put a link to this in
the show notes.

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It's EDUC.ttu.edu slash
podcasts.

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Very cool.

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Yeah, I want to be very clear
that this podcasting thing is
definitely bigger than selling
iPods.

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There's a lot more to it.

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I'm so excited about all the
things that are going to come
and I can almost predict them.

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I can see them happening.

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And part of that is about music.

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And we're going to talk about
that in just a couple minutes.

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This is Bob Robinson of the Pan
and Community Church Service
podcast.

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You recall a couple of weeks ago
I sent you an email talking
about being picked to be an
Arbitron ratings family.

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Well, the diary's came and we
spent our week filling out time.

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Hold on, let me just interject
here.

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So what he did, what Bob
Robinson did is he sent me an
email that he'd been chosen as
one of the select families or
persons, I guess,

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to participate in the Arbitron
ratings.

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Are the Nielsen's of radio and
the way they're done is by
filling out a diary.

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So they give you a special diary
and you have to write down what
you listen to.

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And the stations get credit for
all kinds of things.

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They get credit for call
letters.

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There's different credit if you
can name it air personality that
you heard.

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There's all kinds of different,
different things that the
stations get varying degrees of
credit for.

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And that's how they determine
this magical number of how many
people are listening to the
station by the quarter hour.

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Remember, so you're probably
writing down on the diary by the
quarter hour.

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What you listen to from 8 to 8
to 15 in the morning, 815 to 830
in the morning.

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I was to get some more
background on that from Bob.

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I'd love to know what a diary
looks like and I've never
actually held one in my hands.

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So he was going to fill in the
podcast that he listened to as
well.

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So let's see what Bob has to say
here.

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And a couple of interesting
results came out.

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First of all, I do notice that
I'm more than 50% podcast versus
radio listener.

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It's been about 60% of my time
listening to podcast versus 40
over the regular radio.

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And that's just been a past six
months or so.

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Another interesting point is my
attention span for either
podcast or radio seems to be
about 20 minutes.

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So 20 minutes or 40 minutes
maybe is a really good time
duration for individual podcast
shows.

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And finally, the arbitron folks
did provide a little section in
the back of the diary to put
down any kind of comments we
wanted to.

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So I filled them in on what
podcasting is and we'll see if
it shows up as a blip on their
ratings radar.

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All right.

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I'll leave you with a couple of
plugs in the patent community
church service podcast and
Sunday word come to you both on
Sundays.

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And friend of mine, MB is the
host of the fairytale corner
podcast where they do classic
original and modern fairytales.

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Right now, MB is reading one of
her very own original
fairytales.

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You sure to check it out on
iTunes in the family section.

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Thanks a lot Adam.

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You have a great day.

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Oh, I rev.

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Nice processing, by the way.

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Holy moly.

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You got a noise gate there, son.

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That sounded bad.

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That sounded pretty aggressive.

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I like it though.

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And that, by the way, that's
something interesting to talk
about that sound processing
really or just audio in general.

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We've, so we discovered our
microphones.

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We discovered with that that
hole in your laptop is for and
we're putting it to great use.

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But just like publishing in
print and we talk about this a
lot at pod show publishing in
print or word processing.

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That's a good example.

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It's a good analogy actually.

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So when you're making a document
and you want to communicate
something, it's, you know, it's
not just words that would be a
dot txt file.

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But even in that, the way you
space things, you know, you
might put a bullet point in
front of one certain item that
you want to highlight and of
course if you have a rich
document.

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Then you have italics and bold
and fonts and colors and all
kinds of things you can do to
really get your message across
and this all exists in audio as
well.

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We're learning all of this stuff
which is okay.

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You know, it's been around for a
long time. There's a lot of what
programmers would call prior art
would trademark attorneys would
also call prior art.

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You know, so you can say
something and you want a
nonciated or you want to, you
know, add it like this is an
important thing. I want you to
listen to it.

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Okay.

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Sing, say hello.

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Right?

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Can be used for good and for
evil.

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And so processing is a part of
that.

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You're sound, you know, and that
could be whatever you want it to
be, whatever, whatever floats
your boat, I guess.

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Now, about the pod safe music
network.

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Yesterday, while Patricia and I
were doing this kind of review
of pod safe music that I'd
played on the show, we
accidentally played a nonpod
safe song, I'll explain why.

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Because it was a cover version.

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Now, in this whole discussion
about playing pod safe or nonpod
safe music on podcast, here's my
ultimate view point. I see that
there are really two.

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Two types of rights. There's the
performance rights, which means,
you know, when you use a song,
to basically, as a derivative
work, I should, why don't have
to go into legal terms.

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So, if you want to use a song
just to sing it yourself and to
sing that at a concert or sing
it for your friends or whatever,
you know, essentially you're
using someone else's work.

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Now, there's all kinds of fair
uses in there. But in my case,
as this podcast eventually will
start to generate revenue, it's
only fair that if you're using
someone else's work, it's only
fair that they're compensated
for that. If you're using
someone else's work for profit.

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Now, as it pertains to artists,
there are lots and lots and lots
of artists out there who may
not, who may be great artists,
but may not have the songwriting
or composing talent.

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And by the way, you know, I
don't look at songs as CDs or
tracks. It's a song and a great
song is a great song and a great
song could be performed and
produced and recorded in many
many different ways.

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And that's really the thing that
carries through all the ages is
the song, not that particular
recording.

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There are songs that have been
covered eight, nine, maybe even
ten times. There are classics
that, well, shoot classical
music just as an example is
basically covered all the time.

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And in that case, there's no one
left to pay because the
copyrights, you know, there's no
more copyrights in most cases in
the public domain.

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Now, as it, when it comes to the
pod save music network, okay, so
let's talk about so the other
right is the fact that you're
using someone's product.

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So the product, of course, is
the song or is the track that is
a combination of the musicians,
the singers, and also the
authors and the composers of the
song.

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So let's say, and that's what
ASCAP and BMI are for is for
the, it's for the composers and
the authors of the song, don't
put that over to the left for a
second.

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So right now we're seeing lots
of artists coming in saying,
hey, I'm willing to give up the,
the mechanical rights, the fact
that you're using a product of
theirs in a show.

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They're willing to give that up
for the promotional value that,
that a podcast can bring when a
podcast or place a song because,
of course, where most of your
money is made at the end of the
day as an artist is performing
in front of live audiences.

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Now, if you can get into selling
millions and millions and
millions and keep that up, yeah,
then it becomes a different
game.

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But by the way, sales of CDs or
tracks direct to the consumer,
these days are very interesting
because your overhead is so low
as an artist, you can keep 90%
of the total purchase price in
your pocket.

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And then you have a little bit
of cost on actually creating the
CDs, but, you know, the physical
product or if you want to sell
by the track or some other
means, it's all possible.

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So let's presume that the
artists are willing to give up
that right for the promotional
value, which is pretty much the
way it works on radio today.

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Radio stations do not pay the
record companies or anybody else
for playing the song.

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They do pay, pay, ask cap and be
a mile. There's two
organizations and I don't think
anyone belongs to both. You
belong to either ask cap or be a
mile.

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And what they do is they track
the usage of songs, not of the
records, but of songs.

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So if it's played in a bar,
it's, of course, enhancing the
atmosphere of the bar and the
bar has revenue.

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And so they have a business
thanks in part to the songs. And
so they pay not, you know, not a
whole bunch, but they pay some
money, which is in proportion to
whatever the revenue is coming
in.

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It's probably going to be one to
two percent of revenue of gross
revenue.

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And it's the same if you hear
music and an elevator. I mean,
all of that is paid for.

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And they have guys who actually
go out on this, they'll go by
fairs and, you know, they have
their collection agency.

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That's basically what they are.
They got the rules down and
everyone agrees on it.

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And I'm not against that. I
think that, you know,
absolutely.

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And I think this fair use, if
you're just, you know, hosing
around and, you know, and not
making any money using the song.

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I think that, you know, there
should be fair use that you
don't have to pay anything. You
shouldn't have to pay for
something if you're not making
money off of it.

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Okay. So that's a long-winded
wind up to the point I want to
make.

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And then we really got to move
along.

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And I believe the pod safe music
network should go out. And of
course, that's pod show.

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And I'm going to talk about this
today. In fact, we're going to
get on it.

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I think we should go out. And we
should cut a deal with ASCAP and
with BMI.

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So that podcasters can use songs
as long as they also have the
right to play the actual
product.

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So that way artists can, you
know, really introduce
themselves to an audience and
not just be limited by their own
songs, but they can get other
people's songs.

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And they could use any wide
variety of songs.

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And we could do that right now.
And I think that the pod show
can, can figure out a way to
negotiate something really well
that will probably

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work so well that no one who
just wants to play some some
cover songs, you know, some
great songs, by the way, will
have to shell out any money at
all.

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So I'm going to work on that.
And just to give you an example
of of what I mean, I'm going to
play a song, which is a cover
version and Brian in, but I know
is smiling.

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He's from cover, really. Because
he has this all figured out and
it took me a little while to
catch on because

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just because it's not the
original artist that became a
hit, you know, on the radio
whenever the song still is the
most important part.

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This is the song that was on the
radio when Christina was born.
And I was, it was actually a C
section. I was in the operating
room.

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And, you know, it's, it's a part
of the soundtrack of our life.
And it doesn't matter if it's
the Beatles singing it or if
it's Alison Crow.

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And I mean it. The emotion is
still the same. So it's not pod
safe, but this is here to prove
a point.

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[ Music ]

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Welcome to 101 uses for baby
wipes. Here comes the daddy
cast.

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My name is in the obituary
column. And in the now it's time
for new parents can use.

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In the headlines today, living
near freeways causes asthma. Is
it ADHD or sleep deprivation?

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Riddle in, not method crack, is
all a rage on campus.

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Test your cartoon trivia skills
with the tune test.

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Right, too much a one thing can
be boring, so a nice mix of news
and entertainment works for me.

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Sorry, that was just way too
much fun.

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We're at 101 uses for baby
wipes.com, and I tend, and of
course, at the pod safe music
network.

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I'll show a dot com, recommend
listening with at least one foot
firmly planted in reality.

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How many times does this happen
to you?

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I have fifty dollars.

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What game did you get?

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I think I was going to film that
up in the end.

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The new abitually wrong, mister.
You see, if you listen to the
teen gearing podcasts, they
would tell you what games are
actually worth purchasing.

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Okay, that'll do it for the
daily source code for today.

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I am very excited about this
idea of getting a license for
covers for the pod safe music
network.

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I'll be back tomorrow with
another source code from the
cottage.

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So let me do my sign off here.

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Another pod show podcast. Stick
it in your ear.