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Delta Sierra Charlie 2-5-5.

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We saved!

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We've been told what to like and
then like it.

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In my opinion, if you're over
six years of age and you're
still getting your music from
the radio,

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something is desperately wrong
with you.

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I can only hope that somehow MP3
players and file sharing will
destroy FM radio

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the way they're destroying
record companies.

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Then, even though the air will
probably never be safe to
breathe again,

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maybe it will be safer to listen
to it.

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There are no secrets.

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I'll be information you don't
even have.

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Now I'm Korean.

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With $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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In the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying you
to the future.

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And it's Thursday, my friends
October 6, 2005, crisis in the
cottage.

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Oh yeah, it's been one of those
days.

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Everything has been gone wrong.

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And I'll tell you all about it,
of course.

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Because in that way you tune in
to find out about how even my
life can mess up.

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Well, of course you do.

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And for some of the pod save
too.

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Which of course today I will get
to.

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Yes, they was kind of a rant
that I went on.

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It certainly made me feel good.

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And this morning, it kind of
happened all over again.

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I woke up.

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Actually, I could barely get to
sleep.

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I was so excited about the
evolution of the original idea.

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We had here yesterday about the
pod safe music network and about
rights organizations.

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Did my homework?

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Looked at a couple of things.

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Actually, I dreamt a lot last
night.

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All about Armageddon and pod
save music was very, very Jewish
to scenario.

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It's a little bit later than
normal.

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I apologize.

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It's 10 after two local time
here in Gilford, Surrey in the
United Kingdom,

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where we bring you the daily
source code.

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When I'm over on this side of
the big puddle, I got to kind of
keep my eye on the door.

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Of the window, actually, to see
if the DHL guy is arrived.

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And I cannot miss it.

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He has a very important package.

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He has to transport to Paris.

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Curious?

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Now, I'll satisfy that in this
show.

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And hopefully, of course, the
Mac will hang in there.

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Just another one of the minor
crisis you've had today.

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Looked at all of that in just a
few minutes.

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First up, Art Adub, Art from
mashuptown.com, gave me a couple
of different files to check out
today.

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His mashups.

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He had three options.

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And for me, there was really
only one.

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It was also his first choice.

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If you like the who and the
Beastie boys, you'll love front
and on the route down.

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[ Music ]

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[ Music ]

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Until came from death, because
one died and he survived, he
died, he died.

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It's not like that.

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Turned up loud in the studios on
the speakers, you know, that's
something that I forgot to talk
to you about

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back in the day, and remember we
talked about how the turn table
were started with the relays and
Big SLIPMATS.

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fader on all of our mixers back
in the pirate radio station days
and

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Funny the Microsoft which would
actually run 220 volts through
it, which was fucking stupid
because you know if you press
down too hard on the the metal
casing of the

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Of the mixer there was a real
potential shock hazard and many
of this jockey has spilled the
beer in the in the console and
been electrocuted

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No one with horrible results,
but we'd have a micro switch in
there and when you

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Pull the fader up for the
microphone a red light. Yeah, a
real on-air light would go on
outside the studio door and the
speakers would cut off

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Boy, that's something we got to
get back to that again. Oh,
there's so many things that
we're remembering

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So you heard the little hiccups
here and there that was crisis
number one today

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I came in my Mac I'd never turn
my machine's off by the way,
which I guess there's two
schools of thought on that

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It's not about the power
consumption which by the way

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They you know, I got like three
machines in the tube amp and the
mixer and that all stays on all
the time

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So it sucks some real power, of
course

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But I walked in and I could hear
my hard drive going

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And that's usually a bad sign
and

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So I

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Rebooted and it gave me that
little can't find the system
can't find the system icon

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I was finally able to start it
in single user mode and you know
went through all the typical
things

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Man, it took like an hour to
boot up after that and I went
through some of the things that
I would normally do

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You know repair file permissions
and such and it actually was
kind of handy because while it
was booting up

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I was looking through the Gmail
looking at some of the

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Some of the comments that had
come in and low and behold Bob
was there was some ready advice

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Mac heads pay attention. I add
them. This is Bob host of the
never published bomb cast

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They'll have been figured out my
format which so I haven't
started but we've got some good
things coming up

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This mini cast is to address
some of the issues that you
discussed with your power book
and thinking about getting a new
one

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Couple of things maybe four
items to cover and less than two
minutes if possible

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And they should hold you over
for a while now

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I'm not sure which 12 inch power
book you have

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But I have a 12 inch 1.33
gigahertz hold on hold on Bob

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I have a

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month 17 inches baby your hurts
with 768 megs around now since I
bought that about a year ago

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They have upgraded the power
book 12 inch

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One time it's very soft upgrade
because it's a 1.5 gigahertz and
it has 512 standard mine had 256

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Mears is probably older than
that. I would guess by what
you've said on your show

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So I'm assuming that you get
something around a one gigahertz

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Are you gonna upgrade? Yeah, you
should upgrade you probably want
to do one and here's what we
know

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We know that there's going to be
a new version of power books
staying in a G4 line

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They were never able to get the
G5 small enough and cool enough
to put it into a power book

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But moving right along we also
know that apples ramping up to
put Intel machines out and where
they're slow

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Where they've been slow to
release the the performing
machines has been in the power
book line

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We don't expect dibooks to get a
G5 what you expect the power
books to have something similar

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So my guess is the first Intel
release will be power books

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And that means that if you buy
that if you wait for that then
it is sure probably we're
getting it next

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Then you're signing up to be
apples beta tester

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Dude, I have been beta testing
for apples since since the what
was that luggable thing the
apple portable

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100 was that it I had one of
those I had the one

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40 series the one 70 series the
one 80 or 190 the duo docked to
30 C

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The apple to the apple to x the
top of the apple to fx

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The Mac

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Mac plus Mac ED

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Mac 512k

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You know floppy disk based I've
had

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Remember the black power books.
I've had every single one I am a
lifetime beta tester

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There's going to be a bunch of
applications that don't quite
work and and you know the ones
are going to take the hardest
hit or always the fringe guys
guys

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Like audio hijack pro. They're
not mainstream and you know we
hope that there's stuff works

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But we rely on it and so it
sucks when you get an image seen
it just doesn't work

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All on let me just say
something. I'm pretty sure it
won't

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I'm pretty sure audio hijack pro
won't work in

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Future versions at least it
won't work the way it's working
today because it's way too easy
to copy

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To directly copy music from your
iTunes and if you play an iTunes

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If you hijack your iTunes and
you play it and you record it
you can record

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Basically music that you
purchase on the iTunes music
store. I have a feeling that
functionality is not going to be
available pretty soon

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Which is a major freaking bummer

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And hopefully only that stream
will be cut off because I use
audio hijack pro on the other
machine here to actually

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Actually record in addition to
that

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You become their beta tester and
you can't afford to do that with
your main stream machine the
machine that you're living on so

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We do know that there are new
power books coming in the G4
line

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It'll probably be another pretty
wimpy upgrade, but I would wait
for that upgrade before you buy
your new power book

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And then I'd snap one up and
expect to ride the storm out
until the second generation
Intel pieces come out

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a couple of other things mac and
end.com says that the Apple is
planning a special media event
on October 12

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It's an invite only event

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It's one day after the announced
their financial results for the
fourth quarter. It's 10 a.m.
October 12 the California
theater in San Jose

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And it's right after another
special event in the very same
theater where they introduced
iPod nano

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iTunes 5 in the Motorola rocker
phone

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Early last month and according
to one report the invitation
shows close theater curtains
with the words one more thing

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written on top so they're
definitely going to release
something. I wouldn't be
surprised if

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The new line of power books is
in that list. So well now the
the jury's kind of odd on that.
I've received several messages
of

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Who sent me that email

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Oh, that's second. I got an
email from

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a couple of people forwarded me
a Yahoo email

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Paul

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About this special event some
people think it's going to be

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New line of power books and

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Some people think it's going to
be the video iPod. I got to tell
you. I don't believe in it

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I don't think Steve Jobs is
going to do a video. I could be
wrong of course, but I

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Had this conversation with him
and someone brought up the video
iPod and and just to look on his
face

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He went like

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Video iPod he said makes no
sense. You know, what's the
earphones of a video

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When he said that

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I was pretty sure that wasn't
going to happen. So I'm I'm
betting on the new power books.
So you may want to wait for that

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In addition to that you were
talking about moving everything
over

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Well believe it or not 10.4 in
the utilities folder has a set
up slash migration assistant

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And basically if you're running
tiger

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The set up assistant runs
immediately after you install
the macOS

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So when you boot the machine you
do have the option to use this
migration assistant

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Just connect both computers on
your network or by firewire

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And you'll be able to transfer
all your data and it'll act like
it had always been on that new
machine

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Before you do that though you
want to clean up your hard drive
and here's where you're having
some problems

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One rule of thumb on your boot
drive is to make sure that you
keep 10% of that drive free for

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Disco operations if you've got a
40 gigabyte hard drive and
you've got 39 gigabytes on it

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You're asking for trouble and
you know, I'm I'm going to stop

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I'm going to stop does not that
it is an interesting but

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Feeling that none mac users will
not be digging. It's up. I'll
put the file up up

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That's DHL Christ I got to
explain to you why DHL is here.
I'm going to pause this for two
seconds. I'll be right back

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Right I think the word for today
is discombobulated

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I'll come back to Bob in a
second with his mac fix it to
cast oh, man

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So remember I told you that I
had arranged for a special
weekend for Patricia and her
sister in Paris

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where they would be invited to
go watch the

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Fall Chanel fashion show. Well,
that's this weekend actually
it's tomorrow

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Tomorrow is the show and then
they're gonna stay Saturday and
hang out in Paris and then come
back Sunday

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So she left this morning. She
left the house at 10 o'clock and
really there's only a couple you
know when I go on a trip

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The only things I need are my
phone my my power book
increasingly less need the power
book

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Credit card passport, you know,
that's pretty much all you need
everything else is just baggage

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So for Patricia it's her phone
it's a credit card you know some
cash of course for taking the
cab from charred to go

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To the hotel and and her heart
medication and so she was off at
10 o'clock

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After I took Christina to school
and then I got a frantic text
message SMS from the plane

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I forgot my medication oh, man

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I'm like okay, well, of course,
you know my wheel started
churning. Well, this is possible

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I knew that she'd taken her
medication this morning so she
really doesn't need anything
until tomorrow morning

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But first I was a little worried
you know if she's on the plane
and she you know how you can
just like

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You know get a start-up. Oh my
god, you know that feeling when
you forgot something that goes
through your whole chest and
your whole body and your
shoulders and your neck

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He just feel horrible and you
can even start to

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Perspire

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So I had these horrible visions
of that happening to her and her
not having her emergency pill
over there

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So I immediately called DHL

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Actually, I normally would use
FedEx, but FedEx doesn't have
the same type of FedEx really
isn't as good

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I don't think for international
European international delivery
and they have a next morning
next day before 9 a.m.
guaranteed service

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So got a great great person to
DHL in the line

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Explain the situation she said
well we can get it there before
9 a.m. She said would you like a
quote on that and I said yeah

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Well, yeah, you know 102 pounds.
I said oh let me think for a
second if it's worth it

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So that's why you know as
waiting for the DHL guy and at
the same time hoping that
Patricia wasn't too freaked out
on the flight

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She's fine

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And so now it's also all the
medication. It's on its way with
my hero the DHL man

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So that was one of the crises
that was that has delayed the
show today and as I said the
other one was the power book and
you hear it's still skipping

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Bob really put together a great
cast. I'll have to get the full
audio of this up online still
another two and a half minutes
of it

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um

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And he has you know, there's all
kinds of tips that he has and I
went through everything
meticulously

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I think my drive is just shot
and I have like 20% of free
space and I don't know what's
going on and also this this

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The book is just had it, you
know

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I've said this before you know
the life of a power book. It's a
couple of years and whenever
there's problems you close it

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Treat it like an etchisket shake
it a little bit open it up it
works and then at a certain
point, you know

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Who knows and then it it becomes
a

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video server for your television
in the living

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Something else about the
skipping because of course

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Lots of people are sending in
comments

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Hadn't spoken to cast blaster
Mike for a couple of weeks and
he came back

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He was out he spent a couple of
days in like a log cabin and

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Completely reprogrammed cast
blaster. I mean completely

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And he's working on several
versions at the same time one
which of course will be for me
because

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I really want to use the
product, but what what's
exciting is he is now

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And I'm still not he did did it
down at the actual frame level
of the MP3 players because the
problem one of the big problems
is the way that quick time
buffers

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The audio and Windows media
player also has issues with that

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Sorry

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So he went down to the frame
level of the MP3 files and and
he is now created recreated cast
blaster with the mix

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Happening entirely in software

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Zero latency

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Zero freaking latency so you can
use this thing and the sound is

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Just phenomenal

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Now doesn't it still doesn't
have all the the control bits
that I need to be effectively be
able to use it

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Just in the way I work that's my
problem not the not the
software's problem

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So I'm very very excited about
about what I saw and there is
also no no delay on

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And no

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No delay in no skipping

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Using the the new cast blaster
so it's still I think it's beta
beta or alpha beta alpha beta

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I don't think it's been released
to the beta group yet, but it's
called a beta and was given to
me

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And I love it and hopefully
we're gonna be able to talk
about that a bit more in the
very near future. What are we at
now? Oh my goodness

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Special job cast coming up in
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I'll try to answer any questions

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that listeners may have about
this incredible woman.

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More than 40 years after her
death, she is arguably more
popular today than during her

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own lifetime.

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So come and find out why at
www.mymeralyn.ca or look for me
in iTunes.

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But don't just take my word for
it, what do you think of the
show?

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I've been subscribed to that for
quite a while and I'm going to
make some

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I think it is sent off a new
promo.

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Prohomers are welcome.

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Always submit at podshow.com,
send them in feedback,
adamantcurry.com, please if you
can, put

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an MP3 up on a server and just
send me the link to it and try
to do some work on those

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ID3 tags.

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It really makes it a lot easier
for me.

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Got a lot of feedback, of
course, based on yesterday's
discussion and now I've had at
least

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three people email me saying,
hey, you know,

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this note on inepotter.org
hasn't been updated since
August, you know, can I take
over

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the note and as I might my
standard response, please email
the note manager, copy me, ask

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him, you know, what is it, his
or her intentions are and we'll
take it from there.

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And that's pretty cool because
the conversation and I've seen
it in the stats too, really

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did send people searching, I
guess everyone's perusing
through the entire director to

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see if they can find any
horrible podcast that I don't
listed and I got a great email

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yesterday from the Netherlands,
people have listened to the
daily source code, what are we

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episode, 255, 255 episodes, 255,
probably somewhere around
episode 30, I think I introduced

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mode zones, banned from the
Netherlands who independent,
they produce all their stuff in
their

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attic, I think it's two
brothers, they produce it on a
Mac with Pro Tools and just it's

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something about the vibe these
guys have, it's something about,
you know, just the song,

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I just really like them, they
also played at the North Sea
Jazz Festival, by the way,

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LeCivies, Bitties are applying
to to perform there, of course,
going to use as many

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back channels as possible to try
and get them in. So I got an
email from your from the
Netherlands

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and you said, hey Adam, skinny,
that's the, uh, one half of my
Jones sent off, uh, hold on a
second.

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Have no one, that's not. I went
too fast for me.

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Skinny, uh, uh, Mo Jones has a
new record coming out, it's
titled My World and Skinny
wanted you to have

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the premiere of the first track
off of the record, always the
same, Mo Jones on the source
code.

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Everything notices in the
school, everything's sacred,
it's will, everything's safe,

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and it's will, everything's
life.

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[ Music ]

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Yunzie!

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From the new CD My World

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Always the same

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It'sפit

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It's their own label

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their own songs and permission
to play it loving it and got to
get these guys listed on the

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pod safe music network. I know
I'm gonna have to plug it again
music.podshow.com, really,
really

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like that. Did I see Steve
Gilmour's head poppin along?
He's a big fan of Mod Jones. So,
um, oh man,

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I hope I can hook up with these
guys pretty soon. They are so
good live. They bring like a

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rhumba box and a couple of the
oil drums and a guitar and an
armonica and they're and

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they're good to go. Another
crisis that happened today, uh,
as they say, when it rains it
pours,

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so I was already late with the
source code. As you know, uh, we
are a simulcasting, uh, the pod
squad

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on uh, serious channel 103,
which is right next to Howard
Stern's channel. So, he's not
there yet.

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Welcome those of you, uh, just
channel surfing. Um, and so the
way that works is, uh, pww
fenton from

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digital flots and fine podcast.
Uh, he manages all of that and
uh, and this, it's quite a bit

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actually just collecting all the
pieces because they're all sent
in the evening before such as my

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show the day of, but I get up a
little bit earlier because I
mean, the UK. And, um, and so I
emailed

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them saying, you know, dude,
here's what's going on, the
power book Patricia's Heart
Medicine,

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I'm a little bit late, so don't
freak out, it's coming. And in
here back from them, I get a

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a text message and he was in a
car crash last night. Now, in
nothing serious, he's okay. He's
a

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little bit sore, um, he got
rear-ended, which normally is
really nice. And, uh, I said to
my

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immediately, the pw, two words,
man, whip, lash. Maybe that's
one word. I said, we're sitting
on a

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cold mind by brother, but now
his car won't function and
wouldn't start and his ISP,
which is

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a roadrunner, so that's a pretty
respectable ISP. And he's one of
the super duper accounts,

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was completely down. Uh, and so,
you know, we're late and just,
you know, I was like,

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what are we going to do? And so
I came up with a genius
solution. I said, look, you got
a

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power book there, right?
Because, you know, yes, to put
all the shows together and then
has to be

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converted to the satellite MP2
file, whatever, and then
uploaded to their server. I
said, you got a

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Wi-Fi power book and you got one
of those thumb drive, one of
those USB one, you know, like
500

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megabyte drives, he says, yeah,
so, well, off you go, in a cab,
to Starbucks, and uh, download
the shows,

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come back, stick the drive into
your system at home, do the
stuff, and then go back and
upload it.

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So, thank God for Starbucks.
Remember those days when I used
to stand here,

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bitching and moaning about
Starbucks, and then have to go
to Starbucks and upload it
before

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there was a bandwidth in the
cottage? Oh my goodness. Lots of
great comments coming in from

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people about podcasting and pod
safe music. Next, five or six
minutes or so, I want to talk

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about it and want to tell you a
little bit more about my idea
for, um, for the pod safe music
network.

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I think, uh, think you're going
to enjoy it. Oh, man. Christo,
mighty. There you go. I think
that

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today is the day that I buy a
new power book. Uh, I now have
the spinning beach ball of
death.

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After I asked it to advance to
the next file. Oh, man. It sucks
so bad.

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Piece of shit. Sorry about that.
Try to take my composure there.

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One to comment on a couple of
things that's been going on
lately. One is, thank you very
much.

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Um, getting up early in the
morning and getting your, uh,
your pod cast, the daily source
code before

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I go to work. I'm on the road
all the time. It's been great.
So thank you for that. Uh, it's
one

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less time I need to think up
during the day. You might say,
uh, the other thing is I wanted
to kind of

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voice a just a listeners kind of
point of view for, uh, for, um,
this whole idea of the music
industry and

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what's happening. You know, I
kind of gave up with music. Um,
and I just subscribe to Yahoo,

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make music for, you know, a
yearly account for what 50, 60
bucks a year plus Rhapsody. I
had that for a while.

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And I just kind of gave up with
it. And, um, I have X and
satellite and that was kind of
nice.

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But, uh, pod casting is done for
me. Something that I think a lot
of other people that

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listen to pod cast, um, it's
given me kind of an appreciation
again for music. And I'll give
you an

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example, uh, Rob Costlow. I
guess it was this name. I'm, I
hope I got it right.

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One of the, that was just
beautiful piano playing. Now,
I'm kind of conservative in my
mother-in-law's

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very conservative. And she heard
that. And right away, she said,
who is this? Who is this? And
boy,

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it is so refreshing. I mean, I,
I hate to use these words
because it is a paradigm shift.
It really

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is a thinking because a lot of
the stuff that's going on right
now isn't so much the
monetization

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right now. But it's building a
relationship. I mean, pretty
soon, these artists are going to
have

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a following. And, um, I'm going
to want to give them money
because I want to know what
they're doing.

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And where they're going. And I
feel like as a, as somebody
who's just in the very beginning
stages

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of this, that as they grow as an
artist, they're going to, yeah,
I get to be important in their
life.

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And, um, I think that's what's
going on with podcasting. It's,
it's, there's a, you know, a
thousand

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podcasters out there. But what
is doing is it's raising the
level of, um, what's the, what's

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the best way of saying it? Um,
it's transforming a relationship
that you can have with the, with
the, with

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the artist. I mean, you can
really talk to an artist in a
way that you couldn't talk to.
Even if you

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don't, you know, it just by
sitting in email to somebody or
just knowing how, how cool it
was to,

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to get somebody into the
beginning stages and be
recognized. And you were there
for them.

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I mean, I think this is the
greatest thing going on right
now. And pretty soon, you know,
this

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way, I don't, I don't care
anymore about the old stuff. I
just don't care. It's not that
important to

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me anymore because there's so
many good people out there that
all they have to do is start.

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And, um, man, I'm looking for
the, for the next beetles out
there. I'm looking for the next
guy

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that's just going to say, hey,
you know, this is how I got
started. And, uh, me, Mark, I
was listening

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to him in the beginning and, uh,
follow their career. And, uh,
you know, at old radios dead,

36:20.500 --> 36:26.260
old old radio, uh, CD, the
record company said, got to
change and get with the program
here,

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because I'm just Joe average,
but Joe average is starting to
get a little tired of the old
way of doing

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things. And I'll find this stuff
I want to listen to. And, uh,
so, so that's my two cents. It's
just,

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um, you know, you don't have to
broadcast or anything. I just
want to tell you how I feel
because

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this has made a change in my
life, uh, not just the music,
but all the, the smart people
out there

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that are podcasting and the
funny stuff. I mean, uh, if once
people get in the habit of it,

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I can never see going back to,
to old, old media again. So, uh,
that's it. I'll talk

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you later. Thanks again for
putting your podcast early in
the morning. It's, it's, uh,
it's, uh,

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it really is cool getting on
that damn freeway. And it's, uh,
parking lot out there and, and
L.A.

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and being able to, you know,
listen to some fun stuff, you
know, with no commercials. Man,
that's great.

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So, thanks. Mark, right on, man.
Uh, I really wanted to broadcast
this because that's exactly

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the voice that, that I love
hearing is when, um, Joe
average, as you say, and, uh,
look at this,

37:30.100 --> 37:33.780
look what happened, man. You're
listening to my show on your
commute, and then I don't know

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exactly what you recorded this
on, uh, doesn't really matter.
Um, it came in as a wave file.

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Uh, so probably some, maybe it
was on your, um, none of your
iPod, obviously, but on, um,

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on some portable device, maybe
your phone or something like
that. If this is fantastic.
You're

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absolutely right. Absolutely
right. I'm loving it. It was
worth all the hassle to get to
that

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wasn't it? So, I had some more
thoughts about, uh, the pod safe
music network, and how,

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remember we talked about, um,
um, about the, the performers
and the people who make a song,

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which is the author composer,
this is what I feel by the way,
author composer, uh, producer,

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and then the musicians. And, um,
ask a BMI, if you're a member of
either, and I went through

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these sites, I've done a lot of
research. I got another beach
ball on my Mac by the way.
Steve,

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Steve Jobs sent me a new Mac.
Now, please, please, crying.
It's a hand-pring my work, man.

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Um, what was I saying? Okay. Um,
so of course it would be great
as we start to monetize, not
all,

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but, you know, some pod
casserole monetize, and I think
it's only, we discussed this. I
think it's

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only fair that if you use
someone's music, and that is a
part of your product, um, that
they should

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be compensated for that. Now,
the, here's, is what's, and
here's what I found out was very
interesting

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about, uh, the way Ask Cap and
BMI work. They, uh, talk about
a, uh, basically a defined or a
finite,

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pool of money that can be
brought in because, and that's
it really hit me, there's only a
certain

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number of radio stations.
There's only X amount of
frequencies. There is no growth.
The only growth

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can be in more listeners, more
revenue. Well, if we know
anything, we know that it's
exactly

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the opposite. Radio revenue is
going down. Listener ship is
going down. Now, let's look at
pod

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casting. Pod casting is
unlimited. So, maybe we have
9,000 podcasters today. Why
wouldn't

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that be 90,000 in a few years
from now? And if every single
one of them is donating just a
little bit,

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just a little piece, not like
Ask Cap and BMI have or actually
BMI has, uh, has a specific
podcast

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license. And it's so
complicated. It's like a minimum
of $288 a year. And then you
have to,

39:53.300 --> 39:57.300
you know, you have to track
everything. And then they'll
come at audit you. And then you
have to,

39:58.100 --> 40:03.300
say, okay, how, you know, what
percentage of, it's like 1.75%
of your growth revenue,

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you know, but then you can
subtract 15% for agency
commission. It's just, it's, oh,
man. And,

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and if you get played on the
real radio quote, real radio,
there's a whole, the, the
distribution

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of money is even fuzzy. You
know, it's like you get, if you
have a hit record, then you get
a

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super hit bonus and you get
extra payout, you know, because
they can't, they do have one
system that,

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that most, most people are not
subscribing to, called BDS and
BDS listens. It's a computer

40:32.180 --> 40:38.580
program that listens to radio
stations and can detect based
upon waveform, basically what's

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song is being played. So I'm not
going to lay the whole thing out
right now, but first of all,

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I have a name for it's called
the Podsafe Music Rights
Organization or a nice acronym
Pro. I kind of

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like that. Podsafe Music Rights
Organization. And it would of
course be a nonprofit. And I
have a

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way, and I don't want to delve
into all that right now, but I
have come up with a way that
anyone

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who is podcasting can use
Podsafe Music. We can do that
already through the Podsafe
Music

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Network, but also each time you
use a Podsafe song, the artist
will get paid, not just the

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artist, but those four
categories, right? And I'm
seeing it as kind of like an
equal four-way split

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with the, the, the, the vocalist
and musicians, they're divving
up their split. And that may not

41:25.860 --> 41:30.660
be the right way to do it yet,
but I'm, I'm pretty confident
that it's, the fairest thing is

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author composer producer and
performers because there are
organizations throughout the
world for

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every single one of those
groups. So if we could have it
all in one and the Podsafe Music
Network,

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and let's just say that I
haven't figured out, I haven't
figured, and you wouldn't even
have to

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report back anymore. You
wouldn't have to report into the
system because the BDS sound
system,

41:51.460 --> 41:56.020
well, you know, that's easy. We
know how to analyze wave files.
We deal with it every single
day.

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And we can do a much more
accurate count. So we can
actually distribute the money,
like I almost

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aren't like a certainly a
monthly, probably a weekly, even
a daily basis. And of course,

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it all do it through PayPal and,
you know, we'd be very, very
online about it. And here comes
the

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kicker. This is the part I love.
No, wait a minute. No, no, no,
I'm going to tell you about the

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part I love in a second. First,
let's talk about reporting for a
second because another faux

42:24.100 --> 42:29.780
pot has taken place in my
friends. Now, let's see if we
can get, uh, of course not. Of
course,

42:29.780 --> 42:33.780
it's not going to play. It's
just going to sit there and give
me a spinning beach ball. Hold
on. I need to

42:33.780 --> 42:41.780
kick something! Hey Adam, it's
Derek Miller from the Penn
Machine Podcast in Vancouver,
Canada

42:43.060 --> 42:50.020
at podcast.pen machine.com. I
was listening to your Delta CR
Charlie number 253,

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where you were talking about
podcasters, about 95% of the mom
and pod save music network,

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giving credit to the pod save
music they're using. I hate to
be a nag, but Adam, you're in
the

43:04.580 --> 43:14.180
5% because back on daily source
code number 235, September 5th,
where you did the job cast from

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podshow headquarters. Well, the
only had one song on that pod
cast. It was mine. It's called

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Cold Cloud that a nice pack.
Well, you didn't list it on this
pod save music network and you
didn't

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put it in your show notes. So,
you know, it could hurt a
little. You did, but I'm okay
now. You know,

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it's been a month that I've
recovered. Anyway, just so you
know, my pod cast is original
pod save

43:40.340 --> 43:45.940
instrumentals that podcasters
can use them have for theme
songs and background music and

43:45.940 --> 43:51.940
well, and people that just
listen to it if they like. So,
once again, it's at podcast.pen
machine.com.

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Give it a listen. You can also
get it searching for Derek
D.E.R. E.K. on the pod save
music network.

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Grab some of the music. Use it
on your show. I'd love that.
Anyway, go ahead to listen to
the source

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code and I'll check you later.
Derek, man, I'm so sorry. I
suck. But now there you go. It
just shows

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how hard it is. I reported it
today, put in episode 235 and
you're probably receiving an
automatic

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email from the pod save music
network that I played it. I'm
sorry, man. I really do. I love
the tunes,

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obviously, but it was because of
the job cast. Oh, maybe I should
do that now. We've had so many

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interruptions. Again, the word
is discombobulated. Let me play
one more thing about the pod
save music

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network. Then I'll do the job
cast at the very end of the
show. Hello, Adam. This is
Franklin

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McMahon from MediaArtist
Secrets. The pod cast for the
creator professional at
mediaartist.com.

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And I have a pod safe music
question for you. I just
launched podmodel.com. It's an
enhanced

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pod cast for iTunes and the nano
and iPod photo. Basically, it's
pictures of my model and fashion

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photography. And as I was
developing, I was thinking, what
a perfect place to put in pod
safe music,

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you know, for the background
while viewing the images. And
the problem is I didn't know all
the

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places yet where my shows are
going to go. For example, my
MediaArtist Secrets, that show
is available

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on CD and computer arts
magazine. Now there's a special
page on the CD interface and
all. And now

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that's something I didn't
envision when I started the show
early this year. It's a
commercial

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venture and you know, they're
selling magazines. So, I know
the thing I might want to do
down the

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road is sell a CD of podcasts,
perhaps episodes that are no
longer available or, you know,

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things like that. Anyway, one of
the thoughts, I look at anything
I do as content and content

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goes many different places over
time. Places I haven't even
thought of yet and places we all
haven't

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thought of yet. And I just think
we need to start looking beyond
iTunes and iPods to see, you
know,

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what the next step is, it would
suck to have to go back and edit
out pod safe music from these

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things this content or, or is it
safe? I don't know. This is just
something I'm thinking about

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over the next several years.
We'll be able to download a
received podcast in many, many,
many new ways

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and I'm just wondering if pod
safe music can legally come
along for the ride. So, we may
not have

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all the answers now, but I want
to write. Of course. Of course,
it stops right in the middle.

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So, very good point there. So,
that's what Pro would do. The
pod safe music writes
organization

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would do exactly that. We would
help you license for CD ROMs,
for CD's, for any other type of

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distribution. And if the radio
industry wants to play any pod
safe music, by the way, they're
doing

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it already. Just so you know, I
mean, I know for a fact that
some radio stations have
definitely

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played pod safe music because
they dig it obviously and
there's nothing against that,
but hey,

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hold on a second. Just like we
have to play by your rules, you
have to play by our rules. And I

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predict that because the growth
potential of pod casting is
unlimited by frequency or by
time

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that the total number of, let's
just call them spins, right? We
agreed on that previously.

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The total number of spins of a
pod safe song will far outweigh
what is being played on the
radio.

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Think about it. Think about how
incredibly powerful that is. And
guess what? That's when

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everybody comes knocking on our
door and when we get to turn the
tables and where we get to

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basically call the shots. So I'm
really excited. And you know
what? We don't need, go to
Manhattan,

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go to BMI's, they have the BMI
has beautiful offices, beautiful
building. I don't think I've
been

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I think I've been asked cap one,
same deal. Lots of people work
there and that's all in the,

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because it's a non-profit, but
they got really nice company
cars and they may even have a
company

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jet for all I know. And they've
got full time people sitting
down the basement speculating
with the cash

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and would be very simple for us.
Every week, we look at the money
that's to be distributed.

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And that's the part that I just
want to hold back on before. I'm
not quite ready to

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talk about that yet. We'll say a
no-dam announcements rule on
that for the, for the time
being.

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And then we look at the number
of spins and then everybody gets
a percentage done.

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It just, it all clicked into my
head. It was completely clear to
me.

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So I'm really excited. We could
run it with two people. Two
people could run it. Everything
else is

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online. You do the same thing
you do with those guys. You have
to send off 30 bucks to the

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copyright office. But you know,
by the way, by the minute you
lift your pen from paper,

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you already own the copyright
just so you know. Anyway, all
that stuff to come, I'm going to
go

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throw this piece of shit out the
window this Mac. I'm so angry
about that today. I can't even

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play the closing, the closing
tune. I'm just sitting here
looking at the goddamn beach
ball. And I

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tune to keep's popping up. I
don't know what's going on. All
right, everybody. I'll be back
tomorrow.

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We'll do a thank God it's
Friday. It shouldn't take care
now. Bye.
