WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.760 Delta Sierra Charly, 259 are good evening or good morning, wherever you happen to be. 00:08.760 --> 00:09.760 This is Adam. 00:09.760 --> 00:16.320 Adam Curry here in the Amstall Hotel in Amsterdam, the Netherlands. 00:16.320 --> 00:21.520 It is the, as you can tell, the ambiance, you immediately get an idea that when I say that 00:21.520 --> 00:28.320 I am now overlooking the Amstall River, it is actually technically, it is, I don't know, 00:28.320 --> 00:30.640 I've got some wires dangling here. 00:30.640 --> 00:38.720 It is past midnight, so it is a Thursday, October 13th, 2005. 00:38.720 --> 00:45.280 I'm here on some business, which I actually, my business is the big part of my business. 00:45.280 --> 00:51.760 I got some business, dammit, my business, B tomorrow, 930, I've got some appointments. 00:51.760 --> 00:54.560 It's like legal crap and stuff. 00:54.560 --> 01:00.480 So just, you know, stuff that you just can't schedule your life anyway, other, you know, 01:00.480 --> 01:05.600 can't schedule around it, it's kind of inconvenient, but then again, isn't legal crap always 01:05.600 --> 01:06.600 inconvenient. 01:06.600 --> 01:13.080 So, whoo, man, there is a lot, a lot to go through. 01:13.080 --> 01:19.640 First of all, let me say that I made a critical, critical error. 01:19.720 --> 01:24.280 I'm not talking about the iPod video, we'll get to that later on. 01:24.280 --> 01:28.280 Now, of course, you know about the power book, you know about the whole situation, you know, 01:28.280 --> 01:34.440 that I'm basically working off of a firewire drive where I reinstalled most of my stuff, 01:34.440 --> 01:39.240 and I was actually hoping that today, and I don't even know if new Macs were announced or not, 01:39.240 --> 01:43.720 I mean, I've only seen news about the video iPod. 01:43.720 --> 01:48.360 So, oh, I should, what we're doing that, I might as well just go ahead and surf over there. 01:48.360 --> 01:53.080 I'm not recording on the Mac, and I will tell you why. 01:53.080 --> 01:58.200 So, I, you know, I'd basically gone and rebooted my entire life, and I, you know, I figured out 01:58.200 --> 02:03.240 all the pieces I wanted and didn't want to carry with me, and I reinstalled all my applications, 02:03.240 --> 02:08.840 and, you know, so I figured when I, you know, want to run the road just for a quicky like this, 02:08.840 --> 02:13.240 you know, I'll just bring the, just bring the power book and be able to record everything. 02:13.240 --> 02:17.640 Wow, that thing does look pretty cool, the video iPod, I'm looking at it right now. 02:17.800 --> 02:23.000 The new iPod, now playing music podcast photos, home movies, TV shows, music videos, 02:23.000 --> 02:29.480 and it will give you a blue job, 30 gigabytes, 60 gigabytes, starting at 299. 02:29.480 --> 02:37.800 Cool. And iTunes 6, oh, okay, so we have new iTunes, which means we have over 2,000 music videos, 02:37.800 --> 02:43.720 hit TV shows, and more. Fucking brilliant Steve, absolutely brilliant, and you totally 02:44.680 --> 02:50.440 did not expect it to come out now. But, man, you made a lot of people happy. 02:51.400 --> 02:58.600 Okay, so, so that was all cool, right? And, and I've always got my, my little ear buds with me, 02:58.600 --> 03:02.440 so I didn't need to carry headphones, already had headphones for the airplane, because of course, 03:02.440 --> 03:12.680 I flew the, um, the 182RG. We'll talk about that as well. Um, and I sit down and, you know, 03:12.840 --> 03:18.600 and we totally prepared for this video iPod thing, because of course, um, if you look in your iTunes, 03:18.600 --> 03:23.640 and you're using iTunes, if not, you can grab this off of the RSS feed, the podcast feed. 03:24.200 --> 03:30.440 I put a nice little daily source code kind of, uh, trailer thingy in there. Um, and, 03:31.240 --> 03:34.360 you know, we've been waiting for this moment to have that, you know, when you have all this, 03:35.080 --> 03:38.600 you know, cool capability, uh, excuse me. 03:38.680 --> 03:45.240 I heard you say it. I heard you say senseo. I heard you couldn't stop, 03:45.240 --> 03:50.520 couldn't help but think about it, could you? Um, so we've been waiting for this moment. We've been 03:50.520 --> 03:57.720 waiting for the, um, uh, for the video iPod, uh, and have some content for it, uh, and this is 03:57.720 --> 04:03.000 going to be very interesting. Um, wow, man, I really did not expect this to happen right now. 04:03.080 --> 04:07.080 Glad we were prepared, but true. It even amazed me. I must say. 04:07.720 --> 04:12.760 So this is where mainstream media will really get to play, and that's great. You know, um, 04:14.440 --> 04:18.440 I've, uh, let's lots of TV shows and stuff I want to watch. I'm all for that. 04:18.440 --> 04:23.400 Totally down with it. This is, you know, this is the Tvo capability of, uh, of what we've 04:23.400 --> 04:30.600 discovered here. So that's pretty cool. Now, you know, um, we need more Steve Garfields, you know, 04:30.680 --> 04:37.480 we need more. Kakyaos. Kakyao, my dear friend, the video wizard from the Netherlands who has made 04:37.480 --> 04:46.520 me what I am today. And then I mentioned she's beautiful and so nice. Um, 04:50.520 --> 04:55.160 so anyway, so yeah, I'm sorry. It's late. So I'm just trying to gather all my thoughts here. So, 04:55.720 --> 05:00.760 um, I'm kind of thinking what I could do. All right. So let me get back to the problem at hand. 05:00.760 --> 05:05.160 I like you really care about my thoughts there. Um, so I had everything all set up. I go to 05:05.160 --> 05:10.200 record the source code. I've got mega-sag loaded, got all my software, uh, and I make the critical, 05:10.200 --> 05:17.240 or I made the critical error that you can do all that, but you can't be reading and writing data 05:17.240 --> 05:23.480 to a disk drive if it's on a firewire drive. So I'm basically, here I am asking my poor firewire 05:23.560 --> 05:29.720 connection to pass data through of, uh, me recording, you know, so recording an MP3 file 05:29.720 --> 05:35.240 direct to the disk at the same time, requesting files from that same disk. Dumb, 05:36.120 --> 05:42.600 totally, just so incredibly stupid. So we can do a number of things. Uh, I'm thinking, 05:42.600 --> 05:45.720 either I do some post, you know, because this is, you know, the cool thing about this of 05:45.720 --> 05:50.360 court about podcasting is who cares, right, as long as we can, as long as we can hear something. 05:50.440 --> 05:55.720 So what I'll do is, uh, we just, um, let's see, what I'll do, I'll do it with the old fashion 05:55.720 --> 06:01.240 air bridge way. See, of course, you know, I got my love that even had new batteries and everything for, 06:02.840 --> 06:07.080 for the, for the wireless microphone, new batteries. I'm recording on the I River now, by the way, 06:07.080 --> 06:12.360 which, of course, is always the trusty backup. I almost thought to myself, right, when it 06:12.360 --> 06:17.640 it pinched like this, it's time for a sound seeing tour. Uh, I don't like, man, it's Amsterdam. 06:17.640 --> 06:22.440 It's like 12 o'clock. There's nothing going on. You know, it's, uh, it's a, it's a Wednesday night. 06:23.960 --> 06:29.320 You know, things, uh, nothing happens in Amsterdam until probably at least two in the morning. 06:29.320 --> 06:34.200 You know, and I got an early, an early call. So that's, uh, that's a, that's a no-go. Um, 06:34.520 --> 06:40.600 so I was thinking maybe I should post edit the show and then everything you hear, uh, I'll kind of cross 06:40.600 --> 06:44.600 over into the real sound file. I'll have to make that decision later. But first of all, for those of you 06:44.680 --> 06:49.160 who didn't see the video, I'm just going to give you the sound of, of my little video, which is the first 06:49.160 --> 06:55.160 kind of, you know, pod show vignette to run on the video iPod. If, uh, if you have one, and if not 06:55.160 --> 06:59.320 certainly in iTunes 6, and I'm pretty sure this is going to work in iTunes 5 as well. Here, check it out. 07:14.600 --> 07:39.080 Yeah, it's pretty cool. Room, uh, you don't get the full effect, of course, without actually seeing the video. 07:39.080 --> 07:43.560 So I'm going to put that in as a separate piece of the feed. And, uh, let's see what we can do with this stuff. 07:44.520 --> 07:49.880 Um, you know, Mads Weinstein videos have been showing up that she's been putting in her podcast 07:49.880 --> 07:55.960 feed for a while now. Some of it's a pretty intense, definitely different there, Mads. 07:57.640 --> 08:04.040 Okay, so, um, let's just talk about video iPod for a second because I was really blown away. 08:04.040 --> 08:09.000 Oh, wait, the new iMac G5? Is that, uh, is that something that's new as well? That was announced today? 08:09.960 --> 08:16.680 No, probably not. I think I have the new iMac G5, don't I? Okay. Yeah. I wonder is there a video available 08:16.680 --> 08:22.360 of this? Did Steve do one of his famous, famous videos? Let me see. 08:23.640 --> 08:28.600 Watch the new iPod ad, see the new iPod, and iTunes ad. Should we take a look at that? 08:28.600 --> 08:33.480 Oh, Steve Jobs, the special web, I'm not going to watch the webcast with you. You don't want to do that. 08:33.480 --> 08:37.960 I feel a lot like Mads Weinstein actually doing this. This is very much a, like a 08:38.040 --> 08:42.040 Mads thing, you know, just messing around with audio and play some stuff. Let me see. 08:43.320 --> 08:49.880 Oh, did I get a 404? That's interesting. I said, I wanted to see the new iPod and iTunes ads. I click on that. 08:51.080 --> 08:55.080 And then it gets the page you tried was not found. Oh, that's interesting. How about the new iPod? 08:57.320 --> 08:59.080 Okay, that one works. Let's take a look at it. 09:00.520 --> 09:05.720 Got your eyes open? The bandwidth here, the hotel, by the way, is actually pretty good. 09:06.680 --> 09:14.440 Okay, so this is a, oh, man. iTunes plus iPod TV. Okay. Uh, iTunes plus iPod TV ad featuring YouTube. 09:25.400 --> 09:27.000 Yeah. Okay, that was brilliant. 09:29.320 --> 09:35.640 It's transferring from a server called metrics.apple.com. Oh, the cool. Now that Bono is in a little iPod. 09:36.680 --> 09:43.800 Make sure not actual picture. You might see. 09:51.720 --> 09:56.920 Pretty cool. Wow, man. I can't wait. The content. That's what it's about. That's what's going to be so 09:56.920 --> 10:02.440 interesting. Let's see if we can find out more iTunes. I overview. I really should download the new 10:02.440 --> 10:06.920 iTunes. We got some other stuff to do. And I want to actually download some stuff and play it for you. 10:08.600 --> 10:12.760 So the question is, you know, what kind of content is going to drive this mainstream content 10:12.760 --> 10:18.840 without a doubt? I think that's great. And depending on the length and the quality, you know, 10:18.840 --> 10:24.680 these are why these codex are also important that everyone talks about. You know, because the 10:24.680 --> 10:31.560 small of the file size, the less it costs to actually send this out across whatever delivery network, 10:31.800 --> 10:36.600 you know, these are going to go out. And this is, I guess, just kind of like a straight HTTP download. 10:36.600 --> 10:42.760 So that's going to be very interesting to see how the economics of that work. You can bet that there's 10:42.760 --> 10:48.520 a huge spreadsheet of apple, man, a huge one. And they're looking at bandwidth costs and customer 10:48.520 --> 10:52.520 acquisition costs. And they're looking at, you know, what does it cost to run all those 10:54.120 --> 10:59.240 individual tracks through their system and the billing? And this is a, and of course, you know, 10:59.320 --> 11:05.160 the sales of new iPods, but damn, I mean, I think really that they lock up everyone's brain 11:05.160 --> 11:08.920 almost with this. They must have been working on these deals for a long, long time. I can't wait to 11:08.920 --> 11:14.840 download this thing and check it out. All right, let me try a few promos here. I'm just pulling 11:14.840 --> 11:25.880 straight from the Gmail box. So, you know, your results may vary. Do you enjoy great jazz music, 11:26.040 --> 11:33.160 musicians? Do you want your music played on the radio? Visit redjazz.com, your source for red hot 11:33.160 --> 11:40.280 jazz, red jazz, hot casting and streaming great music 24 hours a day on redjazz.com, 11:40.280 --> 11:48.360 and broadcasting every Sunday night at 6 p.m. Pacific time on KYOU AM1550 in San Francisco. 11:48.920 --> 12:05.080 And this is a lot of good good jazz streaming stations. There's, there's still a lot of validity 12:05.080 --> 12:10.040 to that. I like, you know, because I can't get the satellite stations. Unfortunately, I'd really wish I could 12:12.040 --> 12:16.840 it would be, it would be really enjoyable to listen to. And of course, you know, our satellite TV 12:16.920 --> 12:21.080 has all these stations, but I don't have it hooked into any stereo system. Kind of the drawback 12:21.080 --> 12:25.080 of renting a house, you know, the cottage we're renting and we've kind of decided we're going to 12:25.080 --> 12:29.560 actually we just had to decide we're going to stay there another year. We only do a year to year 12:29.560 --> 12:33.880 least because we kind of want to figure out what we want to do. So, we're going to stay for at least 12:33.880 --> 12:40.200 another year and then eventually, you know, I'd like to build the house of my dreams. But 12:40.520 --> 12:48.840 that's for another podcast. So, this morning, ticker seen at a school horrible traffic. 12:48.840 --> 12:55.160 Oh, man, there was a couple of cars overturned on the A3 motorway, actually on the inbound to 12:55.160 --> 13:02.360 Gilford. And there's really only one main drag to get to Gilford and even if you go off the beaten 13:02.360 --> 13:06.920 path, that that fills up with its seconds because it's so windy, twisty, you know, great English 13:07.000 --> 13:15.160 countryside roads. And great for motoring. And so, you know, it's just the traffic was horrendous. 13:15.160 --> 13:18.760 Christina was really late. We even called the school on our way and the school knew about it because 13:18.760 --> 13:24.040 lots of kids were late. And Wind Commander William and actually one of Patricia's cardiologists 13:26.120 --> 13:35.560 Eric Frittent, yeah. He's, he's also a FAA medical examiner and I had a medical test scheduled 13:35.560 --> 13:40.600 with him in Antwerp this morning. And since William, the Wind Commander was bringing the 13:40.600 --> 13:46.280 Cessna over from Antwerp to pick me up so I could fly it back with him. He brought Eric over, 13:46.280 --> 13:51.320 his apartment is literally right at almost at the airport. And it's a great guy, 68 years old, 13:51.320 --> 13:57.400 cardiologist, you know, really interesting guy, pilot for many, many years, just built his own 13:57.400 --> 14:03.720 airplane. You know, it was kind of cool. But I was late for, you know, meeting them. But, you know, 14:03.720 --> 14:08.120 they just had some breakfast, bangers and mash, of course. It's just like bigals, man. I'm telling 14:08.120 --> 14:12.840 you, this Farrow's airport is just beautiful. It's exactly what you want from your 14:13.480 --> 14:20.760 small English airfield. Hopped in the Sessna, off we were pretty cool. You can fly, we flew 14:20.760 --> 14:30.200 it to flight level 5, 5, so 5, 500 feet. And in the UK, you can fly VFR, so visual flying rules above 14:30.280 --> 14:35.000 the clouds. But we also did some IMC flying, so basically you're in the clouds, you're flying 14:35.000 --> 14:40.120 on instruments. And that's where that kind of, you know, weird vertigo thing kicks in, which is 14:40.120 --> 14:43.800 what instrument flying is all about, you know, is where you think you should be, you know, 14:43.800 --> 14:48.360 leaning the plane towards the left, where really, you know, you could be in all kinds of attitudes. 14:48.360 --> 14:53.640 And that's basically what happened to JF Kennedy Jr., you know, he got into weather where 14:53.640 --> 14:58.520 that a lot of experience and freaked out on the instruments. And before you know it, you look 14:58.680 --> 15:03.240 up at the sky and there's a sheep there, you know, except it's your upside down, you're about 15:03.240 --> 15:09.480 to crash into the into the meadow. In this case, it would be a boat probably flying over the English 15:09.480 --> 15:13.640 channel. So that worked out pretty well, actually, you know, and hadn't flown for what maybe 15:13.640 --> 15:17.720 six weeks. So, you know, at the beginning, thereafter take off and William was doing the radio, 15:17.720 --> 15:24.840 which really takes a lot of workload off of the pilot, obviously. You know, I was, I felt like 15:25.000 --> 15:29.000 the plane was like a mile ahead of me, you know, I'm still doing everything. But then, 15:29.000 --> 15:35.320 you know, as we kind of, I stabilized a bit and, you know, got to, got the hang of it again. 15:35.320 --> 15:39.880 And, you know, remember, oh, yeah, small inputs on everything. And it was good. We were flying, 15:39.880 --> 15:45.880 you know, and we were on the total control of London radar and telling us what to do. And it was, 15:45.880 --> 15:52.120 yeah, it was a good trip, went to Antwerp, went over to Eric's place, got my physical, my medical 15:52.200 --> 15:59.240 snive, the first class medical again, or an extension there of, so good for two years. And then 15:59.240 --> 16:05.880 William and I went flying. And we went to mid-Azailant, which is in the middle of the Netherlands, 16:05.880 --> 16:13.000 kind of lower middle, I would say, on the, on the sea. And that is actually the airport there, 16:13.000 --> 16:20.200 is just a stone's throw from Cas Blaster Mike's place. And he had heard, I guess, yesterday on the 16:20.200 --> 16:24.040 source code that I was going to be flying, he knows that I would sometimes do touch and goes there. 16:24.040 --> 16:27.640 So he had sent me a message saying, hey, you know, let me know if you're going to be in the neighborhood. 16:27.640 --> 16:31.640 I called him, I said, dude, we're definitely going to fly over. I'll do a couple of touching 16:31.640 --> 16:37.080 goes and if you're there, we'll have some coffee. And, you know, the, so Cas Blaster Mike, who makes 16:37.080 --> 16:41.960 the Cas Blaster application, he really, it's the whole development of that. I mean, the guys 16:41.960 --> 16:47.880 really, quite brilliant at, at the software that he's put together and wait until you see this 16:47.880 --> 16:51.880 next release where everything's done in software and, you know, the hardware is no longer 16:51.880 --> 16:58.200 dependent and zero latency. I mean, it's just rocket science stuff to me at least as a user. 16:58.200 --> 17:04.040 And boy, am I kicking myself that I chose to take the, uh, the power book, sorry about that, 17:04.040 --> 17:08.840 and that I chose to take the power book instead of, uh, the craplet because I could have 17:08.840 --> 17:14.520 happily done a great show on the on Cas Blaster. So, you know, in the continuing war of how 17:14.600 --> 17:18.360 Mike is going to get me to use Cas Blaster all the time. I think I've learned my lesson here. 17:18.360 --> 17:22.840 This really, this really bites him actually holding the love microphone here. It's like holding 17:22.840 --> 17:31.240 onto a peanut in front of your face. You know, it looks dorky too. So, uh, there he was, Mike, 17:31.240 --> 17:36.200 he wrote his bike over from his house and, uh, and he had his, you know, he's a ham radio operator, 17:36.200 --> 17:41.800 of course, uh, and so he had his little, uh, receiver and he had been listening to us on the frequency 17:41.880 --> 17:46.840 doing the touching goes. And, uh, and of course, uh, even though they only charge me for four, 17:46.840 --> 17:52.280 I probably did about eight touching goes on one of the landings. But, uh, we got down walked away 17:52.280 --> 17:57.480 safely, so it's all good. Uh, and I was cool to see Mike, you know, and then just hang out for a 17:57.480 --> 18:02.600 little bit and had a quick bite to eat and then, um, I went off to the tower to pay for our 18:02.600 --> 18:07.320 fuel and, uh, and for, uh, you know, the landing fees in Europe. You have to pay landing fees, 18:07.400 --> 18:12.040 which is, you know, pretty weird for a US pilot to what won't really recognize that, 18:12.040 --> 18:16.040 unless you're a transport pilot. Uh, I said, well, you know, William, why don't you take 18:16.040 --> 18:19.960 Mike up? Now, Mike is never flown. Uh, I think he actually flew one song like, you know, 18:19.960 --> 18:25.000 some city hopper type thing, but he did not like it. And he's, you know, uh, you know, 18:25.000 --> 18:29.080 Mike's the kind of guy that will go to England on vacation and he'll drive, okay, and he'll take 18:29.080 --> 18:33.800 the boat or the train and put the car on the train or whatever, but he doesn't fly. And I said, 18:33.800 --> 18:38.360 well, man, you want to fly? And I want to, you know, I want to have a quick trip and, uh, 18:38.360 --> 18:42.040 said, yeah, well, so you got to sit up front, you know, so that's, and of course, William was there. 18:42.040 --> 18:46.440 So, so, but I'm not going to sit in the back. I'll go pay the bill and then, uh, you guys go fly, man. 18:46.440 --> 18:52.680 I, that guy had a grin when he came out of that plane. Uh, I know that he's probably, you know, 18:52.680 --> 19:00.040 downloading a flight sim right now, you know, trying to, I want to fly some more. Uh, it is quite 19:01.000 --> 19:10.120 addictive. Yeah, it's quite addictive. Um, okay, Doki, let me see. I had, uh, I did do the show prep. 19:11.720 --> 19:15.000 It's just I couldn't load everything in the way I wanted to do it, obviously. 19:15.000 --> 19:20.600 I got a hit test from, uh, from Yon Polette coming up. Uh, thank you very much, everyone who, 19:21.960 --> 19:28.840 everyone who sent in, uh, the Unix command, man, this is so geeky. You know, I said that there's a 19:28.920 --> 19:35.400 way that you can make programs on your Mac, uh, have more processing power assigned to it. 19:35.400 --> 19:40.840 It's called the Nice Command, and I said, well, I think you can only start it up by typing Nice, 19:40.840 --> 19:45.160 and then the, you know, the path of the application or whatever. You have to set a, a variable for how 19:45.160 --> 19:51.880 nice you want it to, to be or how nice you want the system to be to that application. Um, oops, 19:51.880 --> 19:59.880 no, someone's typing me, who's this? Okay, I don't know what's up with that. 20:02.280 --> 20:11.480 Um, shoot, where was I? Oh, man, roll back the clock. Okay, uh, on the nice thing, 20:11.480 --> 20:15.480 there you go, I can hear you yelling at me saying, about nice, okay, get on with the damn Unix talk. 20:16.360 --> 20:23.560 Um, so you can actually re-knice a process, and I'm sure someone will be more than happy to put that 20:23.560 --> 20:32.200 information in, uh, in the show notes for today. So you can, uh, figure out how to do that. It's, it's, 20:32.200 --> 20:36.840 kind of, it's really, it's more advanced stuff, but it does kind of go to show. And that's what I really 20:36.840 --> 20:43.720 like about my Mac is that you can do that kind of stuff. Um, man, you know, I, I don't have my, 20:43.800 --> 20:50.680 uh, I don't have my, uh, my regular MP3 files with me either. I really messed this up. My pre-production 20:50.680 --> 20:59.160 on this trip was absolutely horrible. Not to mention that it falls, um, in line with the, uh, 21:00.440 --> 21:04.760 with the board meeting, and it's just like I did not want to be here. I really wanted to be back 21:04.760 --> 21:11.800 in San Francisco for this week. So, okay, what we'll do while I look at some stuff and see if I can 21:11.880 --> 21:18.520 find, uh, hold on, tell me I've lost that as well. Yeah, see if I can find some of these other 21:18.520 --> 21:26.680 promos I lined up. Why don't we, oh, this is a good one, hold on. Oh, that's quite a difference between 21:26.680 --> 21:33.080 the way I normally do it and what you're hearing right now. Yes, I have it. It's lined up. It's 21:33.080 --> 21:41.720 Yonpula. Oh, yeah. 21:50.440 --> 21:55.960 I am this is a new hit. It's this number 65 already and there is not much time. So if you don't mind, 21:55.960 --> 21:58.840 we're going to start right away. Okay, this is number one. 22:03.560 --> 22:08.200 Okay, that sounds to me like super tramp and I'm going to have to say look my girlfriend, 22:08.200 --> 22:10.520 a breakfast in America. Number two. 22:17.400 --> 22:22.920 It's like, it's like extra hard because I can't really hear it through the shitty sound. I give up on that one. 22:23.880 --> 22:34.520 And the final one, number three. Come on, I need a word, ring my bell. I know the second one too. 22:34.520 --> 22:39.560 I just got to hear it again and time's up. 22:39.560 --> 22:52.680 This is the answer number one in today's hit. It's a song from 1989. It's super tramp. 22:53.480 --> 22:55.560 This is super school. Oh, school. 22:55.560 --> 23:39.560 [ Music ] 23:39.560 --> 24:06.940 oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh, oh, oh yeah oh, oh oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, no better than ever in the world. 24:06.940 --> 24:11.940 I love the second floor 24:11.940 --> 24:15.940 I love the second floor 24:15.940 --> 24:30.940 [ Music ] 24:30.940 --> 24:34.940 Just don't cry, baby 24:34.940 --> 24:39.940 Just don't cry, baby 24:39.940 --> 24:43.940 Enter number two, Susanne Fagas 24:43.940 --> 24:45.940 And this is the third and final answer 24:45.940 --> 24:48.940 Oh, baby, wonderful, I'm 1979 24:48.940 --> 24:49.940 Can you tell me what? 24:49.940 --> 24:50.940 Bring my bell 24:55.940 --> 24:57.940 Remember this man, this was the jam 25:01.250 --> 25:20.940 [ Music ] 25:20.940 --> 25:24.940 I need a ward 25:24.940 --> 25:27.940 And rate my bell as a third and final answer 25:27.940 --> 25:29.940 In hit test number 64 25:29.940 --> 25:36.940 And this concludes this hit test 25:36.940 --> 25:41.940 I hope you did well, Adam, I also hope you enjoyed this one as well 25:41.940 --> 25:45.940 Again, great music, lots of different kinds of music 25:45.940 --> 25:48.940 To keep it a bit striking 25:48.940 --> 25:51.940 Okay, as always, feedback is welcome 25:51.940 --> 25:54.940 It's a usual address hit test in gmail.com 25:54.940 --> 25:57.940 And you can find some info at that usual place 25:57.940 --> 26:02.940 www.yompolet.com 26:02.940 --> 26:06.940 Also, the iTunes links are to be found there 26:06.940 --> 26:09.940 So please use these links if you've got advice and tricks 26:09.940 --> 26:13.940 And then you've heard one of the hit test 26:13.940 --> 26:15.940 Well, thank you for listening until next time 26:15.940 --> 26:19.940 Again, so getting the usual story at the end of the hit test 26:19.940 --> 26:21.940 I don't know when the next one will be created 26:21.940 --> 26:23.940 And will be played on a daily source code 26:23.940 --> 26:26.940 So there will be an next time, so until then, bye-bye 26:26.940 --> 26:32.940 You know, I think that we have safely established that 26:32.940 --> 26:36.940 This air bridge audio link bites ass 26:36.940 --> 26:38.940 This is no good 26:38.940 --> 26:41.940 God, I was trying to position the microphone to get it 26:41.940 --> 26:44.940 You know, sound a little less like sharp 26:44.940 --> 26:46.940 Like cutting into my brain 26:46.940 --> 26:49.940 Because I'm wearing the earbud 26:49.940 --> 26:52.940 So I'm wearing exactly what you're going to be hearing 26:52.940 --> 26:54.940 When you look depending on what kind of earbud you have 26:54.940 --> 26:57.940 Of course, oh my god, that was nasty 26:57.940 --> 27:00.940 Okay, young, thank you very much though 27:00.940 --> 27:02.940 It was nice about it 27:02.940 --> 27:04.940 It did definitely get me in the mood 27:04.940 --> 27:08.940 And it made me feel good, man, when I hear those tunes 27:08.940 --> 27:12.940 Ah, it's the soundtrack to your life 27:12.940 --> 27:15.940 Flashing before your eyes, I need something to drink 27:15.940 --> 27:17.940 Let me clip you on again, oops 27:18.940 --> 27:20.940 That's right, I got to take everything with me 27:20.940 --> 27:22.940 Great 27:22.940 --> 27:27.940 So for those of you who are listening to the daily source code 27:27.940 --> 27:31.940 On serious satellite, kind of 103 serious stars 27:31.940 --> 27:34.940 And thinking what the hell is this? 27:34.940 --> 27:37.940 This is podcasting, it's a total mobile concept 27:37.940 --> 27:41.940 Not only on your end, but also on my end 27:41.940 --> 27:44.940 I'm completely mobile, let's see what let's take a look 27:44.940 --> 27:47.940 What do we have in the Amstel Hotel 27:47.940 --> 27:49.940 Mini bar 27:49.940 --> 27:54.940 Well, let's see, we have a tubalaron 27:54.940 --> 27:56.940 Oh, that's Don's Favorite 27:56.940 --> 27:59.940 Don does nasty stuff with tubalaron 27:59.940 --> 28:01.940 I don't want to say that 28:01.940 --> 28:05.940 And we have a very chic, very nice actually 28:05.940 --> 28:08.940 Body opener 28:08.940 --> 28:12.940 Beer can opener, nice knife 28:12.940 --> 28:15.940 It's almost like a full leather than there 28:15.940 --> 28:19.940 We have Coke classic Coke light 28:19.940 --> 28:21.940 Two of those, smear enough typical stuff 28:21.940 --> 28:24.940 I was like to look at the juices, you know 28:24.940 --> 28:27.940 So they have German juice 28:27.940 --> 28:30.940 Made from fresh Germans 28:30.940 --> 28:33.940 Fyinger, orange and soft 28:33.940 --> 28:35.940 Nehobens fyinger 28:35.940 --> 28:38.940 So that's orange juice, so we have 28:38.940 --> 28:40.940 What do you mean? 28:40.940 --> 28:42.940 Team flushed in soft, full soft 28:42.940 --> 28:44.940 Multivitamin 28:44.940 --> 28:46.940 Ten, full juices 28:46.940 --> 28:48.940 And there's a two-latten soft 28:48.940 --> 28:50.940 And another round of the soft 28:50.940 --> 28:54.940 And we have Americano, Pringles, original and paprika 28:54.940 --> 28:57.940 And we have a very expensive looking nut 28:57.940 --> 29:01.940 And by the way, if you sometimes live from many bars like I do 29:01.940 --> 29:04.940 You soon learn that the nuts are 29:04.940 --> 29:06.940 Outradiously expensive 29:06.940 --> 29:08.940 It's just nuts 29:08.940 --> 29:10.940 It's exactly what it is 29:10.940 --> 29:13.940 Got myself some Pringles and got myself some 29:13.940 --> 29:16.940 Evian here 29:16.940 --> 29:20.940 Okay, so anyway, and by the way, I'm sorry about yesterday 29:20.940 --> 29:22.940 I just didn't work out having 29:22.940 --> 29:24.940 Just couldn't do the source code 29:24.940 --> 29:26.940 Literally, you know, with 29:26.940 --> 29:29.940 By the time we were done flying 29:29.940 --> 29:33.940 I mean, look at the quality of the problem, right? 29:34.940 --> 29:36.940 Check this out 29:38.940 --> 29:40.940 And if you had the munchies right now 29:40.940 --> 29:43.940 Do you be going like, man 29:43.940 --> 29:45.940 Dude's got some Pringles 29:49.940 --> 29:54.940 Then we went from Midasiland to Hilversum 29:54.940 --> 29:58.940 The Hollywood of the Netherlands, that's where they have an airport 29:58.940 --> 30:01.940 Grassfield, but which is really convenient 30:02.940 --> 30:05.940 Because you can, it's basically the same distance from 30:05.940 --> 30:07.940 Skipple airport with all the traffic 30:07.940 --> 30:09.940 Certainly that time of day, which is the main airport 30:09.940 --> 30:11.940 You can land there, you can land 30:11.940 --> 30:13.940 I'm just grabbing right there 30:13.940 --> 30:17.940 You can land there, that's general aviation 30:17.940 --> 30:19.940 There we go 30:19.940 --> 30:23.940 But Hilversum is a lot more fun, because you can't 30:23.940 --> 30:25.940 You probably aren't going to get a lot of permission 30:25.940 --> 30:27.940 Do touching goes at Skipple Airport 30:27.940 --> 30:29.940 But you can do lots of touching goes at 30:29.940 --> 30:32.940 At Hilversum 30:32.940 --> 30:34.940 And that's a couple of those 30:34.940 --> 30:37.940 And then they have a little clubhouse 30:37.940 --> 30:39.940 They're restaurant, so had a beer, waited for 30:39.940 --> 30:42.940 Taxi Erics guide to come pick me up 30:42.940 --> 30:44.940 And take me to the hotel 30:44.940 --> 30:47.940 So really, but you know, with the hour that you lose 30:47.940 --> 30:48.940 And time difference 30:48.940 --> 30:50.940 Are really, it didn't get into the hotel 30:50.940 --> 30:52.940 Until like quarter eight in the my room 30:52.940 --> 30:54.940 Of course, my reservation hadn't gone through 30:54.940 --> 30:56.940 Expedia, of course 30:56.940 --> 30:58.940 You know, you'll always see that happen, right? 30:58.940 --> 31:00.940 So I had to figure all of that out, and that just 31:00.940 --> 31:02.940 Yeah, it was a bit of a pain 31:02.940 --> 31:06.940 And then hopped on the Skype, I've called home 31:06.940 --> 31:10.940 I've spoke a great length to one of my dear friends 31:10.940 --> 31:14.940 It's funny, because it was not really funny, but I'm here 31:14.940 --> 31:18.940 And spoke to her, and she lives in the Netherlands 31:18.940 --> 31:22.940 But we actually had our whole conversation on Skype, which was kind of trippy 31:22.940 --> 31:24.940 Kind of strange 31:25.940 --> 31:27.940 Excuse me 31:31.940 --> 31:33.940 Right, so 31:33.940 --> 31:36.940 We have at Pod Show 31:36.940 --> 31:40.940 We have meetings 31:40.940 --> 31:42.940 The meetings is more like kind of like 31:42.940 --> 31:48.940 We all get together, and we certainly can do it now in the configuration of the company 31:48.940 --> 31:53.940 You know, we don't have too many people before it gets a little overbearing 31:53.940 --> 31:57.940 People just, you know, and we have one big open space, so it's real cool 31:57.940 --> 32:01.940 So we all kind of, you know, get together 32:01.940 --> 32:07.940 It's either a business meeting or a technology meeting 32:07.940 --> 32:11.940 And you know, everyone will present what they're working on 32:11.940 --> 32:15.940 A lot of, a lot of been over here, obviously I'd dial in 32:15.940 --> 32:19.940 And we do a video actually just use eye chat, and that works really well 32:20.940 --> 32:23.940 And I got to tell you 32:25.940 --> 32:30.940 We got some smart, some smart people doing some really interesting stuff 32:30.940 --> 32:36.940 Taking, you know, the whole idea of podcasting and what you can do with it 32:36.940 --> 32:39.940 To places that I just never thought of, although 32:39.940 --> 32:43.940 Actually places that I have kind of been bumping into here and there 32:43.940 --> 32:46.940 Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about 32:47.940 --> 32:51.940 Do you remember that, the promo I played the other day for the 32:51.940 --> 32:55.940 Mary and who was her name? 32:57.940 --> 33:01.940 Let me go to my show notes, that's where I'll be able to find it 33:01.940 --> 33:04.940 Hold on a second 33:04.940 --> 33:08.940 I might even have it, no, I don't have it in my browser history 33:08.940 --> 33:12.940 Okay, okay, let me just go to the daily source code wiki 33:12.940 --> 33:14.940 It's gonna tell me that immediately 33:14.940 --> 33:18.940 So these two 20 year old girls get to the name in a second 33:18.940 --> 33:21.940 And I guess 20 something or whatever 33:21.940 --> 33:25.940 And what's really cool is that they do a podcast and they do it on a Mac 33:25.940 --> 33:29.940 Well, how do I know that? Well, because they also recorded on video 33:29.940 --> 33:33.940 And they put that or they have a separate feed for that 33:33.940 --> 33:36.940 And it was like, wow, you know, that's pretty cool 33:36.940 --> 33:40.940 But what was going on was was actually more interesting 33:40.940 --> 33:45.940 They were commenting on another podcast, which they were playing back 33:45.940 --> 33:50.940 And stopping at intervals and laughing about, oh, here it is 33:50.940 --> 33:54.940 Of course, Mary and Carla show, I'm sorry, Mary and Carla dot com 33:54.940 --> 34:00.940 And you know, and I was kind of being a warrior of warrior 34:00.940 --> 34:06.940 Looking in on, even though they sometimes were talking to me as the listener 34:06.940 --> 34:09.940 And actually to the camera at some points, which was even 34:09.940 --> 34:11.940 Trippier to see 34:11.940 --> 34:14.940 And it was kind of like they were having this, you know, this 34:14.940 --> 34:18.940 Conversation with like four people, the two of them and these two other guys 34:18.940 --> 34:21.940 And they were actually playing that snippets of their show 34:21.940 --> 34:23.940 And I was like, wow, you know, this is like 34:23.940 --> 34:26.940 It's kind of like a hyper linking type of thing 34:26.940 --> 34:29.940 Although no one else can follow it, which is a bummer 34:29.940 --> 34:33.940 But you can kind of understand the thread, you know 34:33.940 --> 34:38.940 And you just jump into it and they've done nine or ten shows or something 34:38.940 --> 34:41.940 So I kind of fell into them into full steam 34:41.940 --> 34:44.940 And I guess this feud or whatever, you know, it's kind of 34:44.940 --> 34:46.940 Dissing back and forth and it's interesting 34:46.940 --> 34:49.940 It really is 34:49.940 --> 34:53.940 And I've seen some really interesting behavior and tagging 34:53.940 --> 35:00.940 That is really in my mind is saying that podcasting is going to be more than 35:01.940 --> 35:03.940 And of course this is no secret, right? 35:03.940 --> 35:06.940 We always knew that, you know, you could have 35:06.940 --> 35:09.940 You could do a podcast like a radio show or 35:09.940 --> 35:13.940 It can be a book, you know, look at Scott Sigler or it can be 35:13.940 --> 35:18.940 You know, an exercise, work out routine, you know, like 35:18.940 --> 35:24.940 Marina's podcast, you know, it can be so many different things 35:24.940 --> 35:28.940 And even I often without a doubt get stuck in the idea of 35:28.940 --> 35:32.940 You know, it's going to be one, there's going to be a show and 35:32.940 --> 35:35.940 You know, go to many people or a set number of people 35:35.940 --> 35:37.940 Or maybe to know people and you have advertising 35:37.940 --> 35:40.940 You don't have advertising and what is advertising? 35:40.940 --> 35:42.940 You know, an advertising can be podcasts 35:42.940 --> 35:46.940 I mean, when you start to really step back a little bit and see 35:46.940 --> 35:49.940 What people are doing online and how they're using applications 35:49.940 --> 35:52.940 And how they're using instant messaging and how they're using voice over 35:52.940 --> 35:56.940 IP and I think that this is a part of it and it fits into a 35:56.940 --> 36:01.940 much bigger puzzle that in a way Apple is trying to figure out 36:01.940 --> 36:04.940 If I, and I was actually, I did just look at the 36:04.940 --> 36:12.940 At the Apple page for it goes a little bit further 36:12.940 --> 36:17.940 Yeah, so it's the iTunes page, right? 36:17.940 --> 36:22.940 Now, of course, what Apple has always done has 36:23.940 --> 36:27.940 Work this concept of eye life where, you know, your photos 36:27.940 --> 36:31.940 And your music go together and so it was photos music and then 36:31.940 --> 36:33.940 But what else do they have? 36:33.940 --> 36:36.940 A movie, of course, with eye movie 36:36.940 --> 36:41.940 And, you know, what happened is it turns out that 36:41.940 --> 36:45.940 Really having one, one piece of software and 36:45.940 --> 36:49.940 Clearly one device takes care a lot of a lot of your 36:49.940 --> 36:52.940 entertainment necessities. 36:52.940 --> 36:55.940 There's my eye count telling me something here. 36:55.940 --> 36:59.940 So, you know, the, the iPod does photos, 36:59.940 --> 37:02.940 Items does photos, does music, does video. 37:02.940 --> 37:04.940 So it's all kind of coming into one device. 37:04.940 --> 37:08.940 And if you look at the iPod economy of all the add-ons and 37:08.940 --> 37:11.940 Snap-ons and plug-ins that you can buy for the iPod, 37:11.940 --> 37:15.940 I mean, it's becoming a pretty pretty interesting little box. 37:15.940 --> 37:17.940 And of course, it's beautiful, which is nice. 37:17.940 --> 37:21.940 Now, that's not to say that there aren't tons of great other 37:21.940 --> 37:25.940 Devices out there running an open source platform, etc. 37:25.940 --> 37:29.940 But, you know, it's a beautiful device. 37:29.940 --> 37:32.940 I just can't help but say, you know, I like beautiful things 37:32.940 --> 37:36.940 It looks really nice and seems to be affordable. 37:36.940 --> 37:40.940 So, just like what Apple is doing with, you know, 37:40.940 --> 37:43.940 With this integration of all these different things. 37:43.940 --> 37:48.940 So, too, does podcasting and video casting have a place, you know? 37:48.940 --> 37:50.940 And I just, I got to think about it. 37:50.940 --> 37:53.940 This video thing is, like, it's so intriguing to me. 37:53.940 --> 37:56.940 There's so many different things you can do. 37:56.940 --> 37:59.940 And, you know, how many content creators are there? 37:59.940 --> 38:02.940 And is there a simple type of content creation, 38:02.940 --> 38:08.940 Which can be, you know, for video, which is easy as plugging in a microphone 38:08.940 --> 38:10.940 Into an eye-rever and then uploading the file, you know, 38:10.940 --> 38:14.940 And holding a microphone in front of the speaker and doing that kind of stuff. 38:14.940 --> 38:16.940 You know, is there going to be an equivalent to that in video? 38:16.940 --> 38:18.940 And is there going to be entertaining? 38:18.940 --> 38:21.940 Will it draw an audience? 38:21.940 --> 38:26.940 I must say that somehow short videos do it for me. 38:26.940 --> 38:32.940 Sure, either a music video, which I like, but, you know, 38:32.940 --> 38:37.940 If it's like a performance, what we did MTV, we used to call up a performance piece 38:37.940 --> 38:39.940 Where people are dancing or whatever. 38:39.940 --> 38:42.940 That's not really going to work on the small screen. 38:42.940 --> 38:44.940 So they have great examples here. 38:44.940 --> 38:47.940 Actually, I can see on the page, Bono up close, 38:47.940 --> 38:51.940 Singing Madonna with her Vogue, and her Vogue stands. 38:51.940 --> 38:53.940 Okay, so that's going to work, you know, 38:53.940 --> 38:58.940 But, oh, in the complete Stevie Wonder digital box set is also out. 38:58.940 --> 38:59.940 Oh, man. 38:59.940 --> 39:01.940 Oh, man. 39:01.940 --> 39:04.940 I bet Steve Jobs announced that today as well. 39:04.940 --> 39:05.940 Hold on a second. 39:05.940 --> 39:06.940 Let's see. 39:06.940 --> 39:07.940 Oh, man. 39:07.940 --> 39:10.940 You know, I'm such a Stevie Wonder fan. 39:10.940 --> 39:11.940 Let me see. 39:11.940 --> 39:13.940 I'm accessing requests could not be. 39:13.940 --> 39:15.940 Not currently not available in the Dutch store, 39:15.940 --> 39:17.940 But it is available in the US store. 39:17.940 --> 39:19.940 Click Change Store to view this item. 39:19.940 --> 39:20.940 Oh. 39:20.940 --> 39:22.940 I can view it, but I can't buy it. 39:22.940 --> 39:23.940 Oh, okay. 39:23.940 --> 39:26.940 So the rights haven't been cleared for the Netherlands yet, 39:26.940 --> 39:28.940 Or the European Union. 39:28.940 --> 39:29.940 189 bucks. 39:29.940 --> 39:31.940 The complete Stevie Wonder. 39:31.940 --> 39:32.940 That's what it's called. 39:32.940 --> 39:34.940 The complete Stevie Wonder. 39:34.940 --> 39:35.940 Wow. 39:35.940 --> 39:37.940 That looks good. 39:37.940 --> 39:38.940 Okay. 39:38.940 --> 39:39.940 See? 39:39.940 --> 39:41.940 Already it's working, right? 39:41.940 --> 39:43.940 You just saw me get marketed to. 39:43.940 --> 39:46.940 I was looking at something completely else. 39:46.940 --> 39:48.940 So Stevie Wonder, I clicked on them. 39:48.940 --> 39:52.940 Unfortunately, they can't give it to me because I'm in the wrong country. 39:52.940 --> 39:53.940 And that's not. 39:53.940 --> 39:56.940 It's not that iTunes knows that I'm in the Netherlands, by the way. 39:56.940 --> 39:59.940 I've just had my, my Mac account that long. 39:59.940 --> 40:02.940 It's still on my, my Dutch credit card and my, 40:03.940 --> 40:05.940 Actually, my Dutch address. 40:05.940 --> 40:06.940 Which I don't own anymore. 40:06.940 --> 40:07.940 Fantastic. 40:07.940 --> 40:10.940 Okay. 40:10.940 --> 40:17.940 So that's what I've been getting from these updates with the, with the team. 40:17.940 --> 40:20.940 And it's great because we're also getting to know each other. 40:20.940 --> 40:23.940 And, and we're sparring with each other, which is, 40:23.940 --> 40:24.940 Oh, man. 40:24.940 --> 40:27.940 Have I longed to do that again with smart people and, 40:27.940 --> 40:30.940 You know, talk about concepts and, 40:31.940 --> 40:33.940 And we had, well, this was great. 40:33.940 --> 40:36.940 We had Andrew Grumman out for a couple days. 40:36.940 --> 40:38.940 Andrew Grumman, of course. 40:38.940 --> 40:42.940 Well known from all of his development work on iPod or lemon. 40:42.940 --> 40:46.940 He's been there from almost day one with the, 40:46.940 --> 40:50.940 You know, after this whole thing kind of got started. 40:50.940 --> 40:52.940 Definitely pretty. 40:52.940 --> 40:54.940 Well, shoot, I was talking with, 40:54.940 --> 40:59.940 In fact, Andrew was in Amsterdam with Dave Winner as funny, 40:59.940 --> 41:02.940 because I remember describing to him distinctly. 41:02.940 --> 41:03.940 I bet he'll remember this. 41:03.940 --> 41:05.940 And sometimes Andrew does a podcast. 41:05.940 --> 41:07.940 And I'd love to hear his recollection of this. 41:07.940 --> 41:09.940 We were in Amsterdam. 41:09.940 --> 41:12.940 I still had the, the bunker. 41:12.940 --> 41:14.940 And so we hung out there for a little bit. 41:14.940 --> 41:17.940 They weren't traveling together, 41:17.940 --> 41:20.940 But I think maybe Dave invited Andrew over. 41:20.940 --> 41:22.940 I can't quite remember how that went. 41:22.940 --> 41:24.940 But we were, and this is, you know, 41:24.940 --> 41:26.940 There was no podcast in there. 41:26.940 --> 41:27.940 I hadn't written any script, 41:27.940 --> 41:29.940 But there was all kinds of things floating around that 41:29.940 --> 41:31.940 I remember saying what I want. 41:31.940 --> 41:33.940 Because remember now, 41:33.940 --> 41:35.940 I built the first iPod or script, 41:35.940 --> 41:37.940 Because I couldn't get anyone to do this. 41:37.940 --> 41:38.940 And I was explained it well. 41:38.940 --> 41:39.940 But I said to Andrew, I said, 41:39.940 --> 41:41.940 I really want, like, 41:41.940 --> 41:43.940 Black hole, you know, 41:43.940 --> 41:44.940 I want to, you, you, 41:44.940 --> 41:46.940 If you make an MP3 file, 41:46.940 --> 41:48.940 We're even thinking about how you do that them. 41:48.940 --> 41:50.940 But you just drag it into this hole on your desktop. 41:50.940 --> 41:51.940 And it goes away. 41:51.940 --> 41:53.940 And anyone who's subscribed to it, 41:53.940 --> 41:54.940 They can pick it up. 41:54.940 --> 41:56.940 And I want a place where the stuff comes in. 41:56.940 --> 41:58.940 And I want to go straight to my iPod. 41:58.940 --> 42:02.940 And so as basically describing the functionality of iPod, 42:02.940 --> 42:04.940 Or an aggregator, of course, 42:04.940 --> 42:05.940 Which I didn't come up with. 42:05.940 --> 42:07.940 But an aggregator with enclosures. 42:07.940 --> 42:09.940 But, you know, the whole experience. 42:09.940 --> 42:10.940 That's what it's about for me. 42:10.940 --> 42:11.940 It's going through to the, 42:11.940 --> 42:14.940 All the way through to my, at that time, iPod. 42:14.940 --> 42:15.940 Funny. 42:15.940 --> 42:18.940 I just remember something else we talked about in that conversation. 42:18.940 --> 42:22.940 That, and this is probably, you know, 42:23.940 --> 42:27.940 This is, here's a place where the iPod, 42:27.940 --> 42:28.940 What is it called? 42:28.940 --> 42:29.940 Is it called an iPod? 42:29.940 --> 42:31.940 Does it have a separate sub name? 42:31.940 --> 42:32.940 Like the iPod Nano? 42:32.940 --> 42:33.940 Does it have any? 42:33.940 --> 42:35.940 Was it just the iPod? 42:35.940 --> 42:37.940 The iPod? 42:37.940 --> 42:38.940 Hmm. 42:38.940 --> 42:39.940 It just says the new iPod. 42:39.940 --> 42:40.940 Okay. 42:40.940 --> 42:41.940 Poorne. 42:41.940 --> 42:45.940 Poorne is going to be huge. 42:45.940 --> 42:46.940 Huge. 42:46.940 --> 42:50.940 I, you know, the porn guys are just going, 42:51.940 --> 42:53.940 Holy moly. 42:53.940 --> 42:56.940 And, you know, what I believe in two personal porn. 42:56.940 --> 43:00.940 I think that's, that's definitely going to happen. 43:00.940 --> 43:02.940 It is. 43:02.940 --> 43:06.940 And, isn't it time for a hot or not application on your iPod, 43:06.940 --> 43:08.940 By the way, don't we need that? 43:08.940 --> 43:12.940 I mean, video dating, subscribe to the video dating feed. 43:12.940 --> 43:13.940 Oh, man. 43:13.940 --> 43:15.940 Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that's going to be cool. 43:15.940 --> 43:19.940 And, you know, and that to me is also a version of podcasting. 43:20.940 --> 43:22.940 I think it's just, it is much broader. 43:22.940 --> 43:25.940 And, by the way, it doesn't mean that it's, you know, 43:25.940 --> 43:29.940 that there's any less love or, or more or whatever. 43:29.940 --> 43:34.940 It's just, you know, we're only beginning to understand the massive changes 43:34.940 --> 43:37.940 that are taking place in, in our media landscape. 43:37.940 --> 43:41.940 And, actually, not even doing the source code today. 43:41.940 --> 43:44.940 And, just, you know, flying and taking my mind off it. 43:44.940 --> 43:48.940 When I, when I was done flying, it's just, it's like a whole bunch of stuff 43:48.940 --> 43:49.940 myself out. 43:49.940 --> 43:53.940 I didn't even know about the release of the, of the new iPod yet. 43:53.940 --> 43:56.940 But, you know, we're seeing something very different, 43:56.940 --> 43:58.940 which is going to affect a lot. 43:58.940 --> 44:01.940 We've talked about this, what's happening with music. 44:01.940 --> 44:04.940 This is very much like another evolution of music. 44:04.940 --> 44:07.940 And, I guess if you look back at it, 44:07.940 --> 44:11.940 the stages of, you know, of types of music, 44:11.940 --> 44:15.940 pretty much always go hand in hand with the technological 44:15.940 --> 44:20.940 innovation of some sort. 44:20.940 --> 44:24.940 Okay, I don't know all of them, but let's take the 60s. 44:24.940 --> 44:28.940 A lot of it was based on distortion. 44:28.940 --> 44:33.940 You know, I'm sure that there were some parents saying, 44:33.940 --> 44:35.940 how can you listen to that crap? 44:35.940 --> 44:38.940 Look, it's over-modulated, the guitar, and what is that sound? 44:38.940 --> 44:40.940 That's a guitar? 44:40.940 --> 44:43.940 It sounds like a cat screaming. 44:43.940 --> 44:44.940 That's right. 44:44.940 --> 44:46.940 I see electric guitar, baby. 44:46.940 --> 44:47.940 Papa. 44:47.940 --> 44:50.940 Daddy-o. 44:50.940 --> 44:56.940 And then, of course, we had synthesizers brought us disco, new wave. 44:56.940 --> 44:59.940 And, by the way, it was cool then. 44:59.940 --> 45:02.940 And we just heard Anita Ward ring my bell. 45:02.940 --> 45:07.940 That works for me, still. 45:07.940 --> 45:08.940 Then, what do we have after that? 45:08.940 --> 45:11.940 Well, remember, the Fair Light God Braun should be a part of this podcast. 45:11.940 --> 45:16.940 I think he had one of the only ones in weight. 45:16.940 --> 45:17.940 Was that the Fair Light? 45:17.940 --> 45:19.940 Or do you have something pre- Fair Light? 45:19.940 --> 45:22.940 Actually, 10CC started doing samples. 45:22.940 --> 45:26.940 Was that thing called the melatron or something like that? 45:26.940 --> 45:30.940 They had loops of tape, and you hit the tape, and the sampled play on the 45:30.940 --> 45:32.940 actual loop of recording tape. 45:32.940 --> 45:36.940 And that really spawned all new types of music and sounds. 45:37.940 --> 45:43.940 I remember when everyone would be jealous, because it was always Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson, 45:43.940 --> 45:48.940 who would get the new DX7 keyboard, which had samples in it. 45:48.940 --> 45:54.940 They would be the first ones to cut a record using the samples that were built inside the keyboard. 45:54.940 --> 45:57.940 So, all of that goes hand in hand with technological revolution. 45:57.940 --> 46:05.940 And also the distribution of it, along with that came AM radio, FM radio, MTV, which of course, 46:05.940 --> 46:13.940 meant cable, satellite, and it really affects how everything comes together. 46:13.940 --> 46:20.940 And I guess it was kind of foolish not to think that radio wouldn't have to come along in some fashion. 46:20.940 --> 46:23.940 And what is it going to be? 46:23.940 --> 46:27.940 Maybe more questions asked than answered in this particular daily source code. 46:27.940 --> 46:28.940 But I'm really happy. 46:28.940 --> 46:31.940 I'm happy about what I'm seeing. 46:32.940 --> 46:33.940 This just opens up. 46:33.940 --> 46:37.940 Seeing it actually seeing this video iPod system, we're on the right track. 46:37.940 --> 46:43.940 And I think you all know those of you that are clued in, those of you who are starting to see it, 46:43.940 --> 46:46.940 I mean, PDF casting, yeah, that could happen too. 46:46.940 --> 46:55.940 I mean, our version of media and what it means to us and how we consume it and how we make it is changing. 46:56.940 --> 46:58.940 Check out the Mary and Carla. 46:58.940 --> 47:00.940 See if you can get that video, the video cast. 47:00.940 --> 47:02.940 Look at how they're using the computer. 47:02.940 --> 47:06.940 And I don't want to feel that girls like you're being over-analyzed, but I just love it. 47:06.940 --> 47:08.940 I look at my daughter, 15. 47:08.940 --> 47:17.940 And I see how she's using the tools that we're created with entirely different purposes in mind. 47:17.940 --> 47:21.940 And they're being used for very interesting purposes. 47:22.940 --> 47:24.940 Particularly that webcam shit parents. 47:24.940 --> 47:28.940 You got to make sure you know what your kid's doing with a damn webcam, okay? 47:28.940 --> 47:31.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 47:31.940 --> 47:32.940 Wow. 47:32.940 --> 47:33.940 Okay. 47:33.940 --> 47:44.940 So we've almost gotten through the time that I wanted to spend today and everything that I think just about everything I want to talk about, kind of a free form flow of ideas with a little bit of classical music in the background. 47:44.940 --> 47:45.940 I hope that came through. 47:45.940 --> 47:50.940 I apologize for the sound quality and for the lack of, you know, the usual bits and bits. 47:50.940 --> 47:58.940 But sometimes it's kind of refreshing just to just to, you know, do something different and get it all off, just get it all off it all off of my mind. 47:58.940 --> 48:00.940 Just a brain dump on you. 48:00.940 --> 48:03.940 I hope you don't, I hope you don't mind. 48:03.940 --> 48:07.940 So tomorrow, court crap. 48:07.940 --> 48:11.940 And this will be the podcast for Thursday. 48:11.940 --> 48:13.940 As I said, it is technically Thursday here. 48:13.940 --> 48:16.940 And then I'll be back at the cottage. 48:16.940 --> 48:19.940 My sister is arriving tomorrow at the cottage. 48:19.940 --> 48:20.940 So that'll be fun, Tiffany. 48:20.940 --> 48:26.940 I hope I can get on the podcast, which will be the thank God of Friday edition of the daily source code. 48:26.940 --> 48:41.940 So that said, if you're just listening to this for the first time, you can subscribe to the show in iTunes or you can go to daily source code.com and find out everything about it and the podcast feed, etc. 48:41.940 --> 48:45.940 Add them to create.com feedback, audio feedback is welcome. 48:45.940 --> 48:51.940 Just throw it up on a server somewhere so that, you know, I don't don't attach it to the email if you can't. 48:51.940 --> 48:52.940 If you can help it. 48:52.940 --> 48:53.940 And I'll be back tomorrow. 48:53.940 --> 48:54.940 Wish me luck. 48:54.940 --> 48:57.940 It's going to be fun doing my business stuff. 48:57.940 --> 48:58.940 Talk to you Friday, everybody. 48:58.940 --> 48:59.940 Bye-bye.