WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:15.000 Delta Sierra Charlie 2-6-8 00:15.000 --> 00:20.000 You know the weird guy in the corner of the office who always has his headphones on? 00:20.000 --> 00:23.000 That's you! 00:23.000 --> 00:26.000 Ah, Joe! 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 There are no secrets! 00:29.000 --> 00:34.000 Only information you don't get out of! 00:34.000 --> 00:37.000 Adam Curry! 00:37.000 --> 00:41.000 With $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass! 00:41.000 --> 00:44.000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears! 00:44.000 --> 00:47.000 We don't need no sticky ingredients! 00:47.000 --> 00:50.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future! 00:50.000 --> 00:51.000 Just take it! 00:51.000 --> 00:52.000 It's Adam Curry! 00:52.000 --> 00:56.000 And it's Thursday only two more days like get to go home! 00:56.000 --> 00:57.000 October 27th! 00:57.000 --> 01:04.000 I was looking for that clip of Dorothy saying, 01:04.000 --> 01:06.000 I wish I could go home! 01:06.000 --> 01:07.000 I wish I could go home! 01:07.000 --> 01:08.000 I wish I could go home! 01:08.000 --> 01:12.000 I could only just click my heels together three times in my Ruby Red Slippers 01:12.000 --> 01:14.000 and I'll be transported back and forth! 01:14.000 --> 01:16.000 Eight Thursday everybody! 01:16.000 --> 01:17.000 Good morning! How are you doing? 01:18.000 --> 01:21.000 Running about half an hour later than usual, 01:21.000 --> 01:24.000 because I've got some chores to do here at the condo. 01:24.000 --> 01:26.000 It's at 9.17. 01:26.000 --> 01:29.000 Once again from Curry condo and let's see. 01:29.000 --> 01:31.000 Well, it's kind of overcast, 01:31.000 --> 01:34.000 but I think it's going to be a beautiful day here in Northern California. 01:34.000 --> 01:37.000 The lateness, I'm not that you noticed it, 01:37.000 --> 01:39.000 because you're getting the show whenever you usually get it, 01:39.000 --> 01:44.000 is because I got the machine room running full speed. 01:44.000 --> 01:46.000 I've got a load on. 01:46.000 --> 01:48.000 I've got a load in the wash. 01:48.000 --> 01:49.000 I've got a load in the dryer, 01:49.000 --> 01:52.000 because I only had underwear for 10-day stay. 01:52.000 --> 01:54.000 That's the power of Curry. 01:54.000 --> 02:01.000 I'm not going to tell you I am so excited. 02:01.000 --> 02:03.000 And I'll tell you what. 02:03.000 --> 02:06.000 In fact, we'll talk about that a lot today. 02:06.000 --> 02:09.000 I had one of those major epiphanies last night. 02:09.000 --> 02:11.000 You know, we just just before you go to bed, 02:11.000 --> 02:12.000 you're like, oh my god! 02:12.000 --> 02:14.000 And then all of a sudden, it all fits together 02:14.000 --> 02:18.000 and everything just clicks in the place that makes sense. 02:18.000 --> 02:20.000 I almost couldn't get the sleep. 02:20.000 --> 02:22.000 That's how excited I was. 02:22.000 --> 02:24.000 I'll be sure to tell you a little bit about the epiphanies. 02:24.000 --> 02:26.000 Let's book up your definition of epiphanies too, 02:26.000 --> 02:28.000 just so we're talking about the right thing. 02:28.000 --> 02:30.000 Hold on, I'm going to get to dictionary.com. 02:34.000 --> 02:36.000 And to kick it off today. 02:36.000 --> 02:38.000 You smell it? 02:40.000 --> 02:42.000 Yeah, that's kind of weird. 02:44.000 --> 02:48.000 I don't know if I should be concerned, but it smells like destiny's child. 02:51.250 --> 05:58.750 [ Music ] 06:00.000 --> 06:01.000 Yeah. 06:01.000 --> 06:02.000 I was right. 06:02.000 --> 06:05.000 Big pile of booty lissus here on the floor in the condo. 06:05.000 --> 06:09.000 Mr. DJ remake smells like Destiny's Child on the Daily Source. 06:09.000 --> 06:12.000 Go Thursday 27th of October 2005. 06:12.000 --> 06:13.000 Okay. 06:13.000 --> 06:18.000 So as I said, I was planning on kind of being on my way home by now. 06:18.000 --> 06:20.000 That's a weird pact for. 06:20.000 --> 06:23.000 But all flights fully booked up Saturdays the first. 06:23.000 --> 06:25.000 And I really sucks, man. 06:25.000 --> 06:28.000 At least I wish I could have left on Friday because you lose a day. 06:28.000 --> 06:31.000 So now instead of arriving Saturday arrives Sunday. 06:31.000 --> 06:34.000 And of course, I have no no underwear. 06:34.000 --> 06:36.000 Well, I have underwear, but it has to get washed. 06:36.000 --> 06:38.000 And I got a great machine. 06:38.000 --> 06:39.000 Oh, man. 06:39.000 --> 06:40.000 Hold on. 06:40.000 --> 06:42.000 It's still running yet. 06:42.000 --> 06:43.000 Okay. 06:43.000 --> 06:46.000 I got to keep my eye on it because as I've been taught by my lovely wife, 06:46.000 --> 06:49.000 the minute the dryer is done, you've got to take the clothes out. 06:49.000 --> 06:53.000 Because when they're warm, then you can kind of shake them out and fold them. 06:53.000 --> 06:55.000 And then you don't have to do any ironing. 06:55.000 --> 06:56.000 So I do have to keep my eye on it. 06:56.000 --> 07:00.000 And that may be a short introduction somewhere in the middle of the source code today. 07:00.000 --> 07:01.000 So, wow. 07:01.000 --> 07:04.000 You know, first, I want to start with an apology first of all. 07:04.000 --> 07:06.000 That's what I want to do. 07:06.000 --> 07:11.000 A couple days ago, I got an email from PWFent and PW. 07:11.000 --> 07:13.000 Now, he lives in Tampa, Florida. 07:13.000 --> 07:19.000 And he's been working with me for, since Pod Show was incorporated actually. 07:19.000 --> 07:25.000 He was actually working for a different company because this was all pre- Pod Show. 07:25.000 --> 07:30.000 And he is been responsible for the production of everything that happens on serious 07:30.000 --> 07:31.000 satellite radio. 07:31.000 --> 07:33.000 So we work a lot together. 07:33.000 --> 07:36.000 But we work mostly via email and text messages. 07:36.000 --> 07:39.000 And once in a while a Skype or a phone call. 07:39.000 --> 07:44.000 And so here's the context that email fucking sucks, man. 07:44.000 --> 07:45.000 You lose all context. 07:45.000 --> 07:48.000 And also the mainstream media sucks. 07:48.000 --> 07:50.000 And that's why I get to my apology. 07:50.000 --> 07:53.000 So PW sent me an email a couple days ago and he said, 07:53.000 --> 07:58.000 you know, if we're to lose power because of, because of her arcane here, 07:58.000 --> 08:01.000 then I really need a Windows laptop in addition to, you know, 08:01.000 --> 08:03.000 it's other gear that he has because it, 08:03.000 --> 08:06.000 well, there's a whole bunch of technical reasons for it. 08:06.000 --> 08:09.000 But the bottom line is that then, you know, he'll be mobile so he could still 08:09.000 --> 08:13.000 complete the show and get it off to, 08:13.000 --> 08:15.000 you know, it's all done through networks. 08:15.000 --> 08:17.000 You know, all through the internet to get the show up to, 08:17.000 --> 08:18.000 up to serious. 08:18.000 --> 08:21.000 And it's pretty cool the way it works actually. 08:21.000 --> 08:23.000 And of course, I had no problem with that. 08:23.000 --> 08:25.000 But I'm like, you know, I wasn't kind. 08:25.000 --> 08:27.000 It's weird because I understood what he was saying. 08:27.000 --> 08:29.000 You know, if the electricity goes out, 08:29.000 --> 08:31.000 and then of course my mind went immediately to the next step. 08:31.000 --> 08:33.000 So what if the electricity goes out, 08:33.000 --> 08:35.000 but it goes out for 300 miles. 08:35.000 --> 08:36.000 You know, I'm just thinking like, 08:36.000 --> 08:37.000 I know what I'm talking about. 08:37.000 --> 08:39.000 So what's our backup plan? 08:39.000 --> 08:40.000 You know, do we have the files somewhere else? 08:40.000 --> 08:43.000 So someone in a different location could do it for instance. 08:43.000 --> 08:46.000 And we kind of went back and forth and, 08:46.000 --> 08:48.000 and we're like old women on email, man, 08:48.000 --> 08:49.000 we can bitch and moan each other. 08:49.000 --> 08:51.000 It's actually, it's a very lethargic. 08:51.000 --> 08:53.000 Lethargic is it the right word? 08:53.000 --> 08:55.000 No, that's not the right word. 08:55.000 --> 08:57.000 That's some sort of the wrong word. 08:57.000 --> 09:00.000 It's, it makes you feel good 09:00.000 --> 09:02.000 to yell at someone over email. 09:02.000 --> 09:04.000 As part of that person doesn't take the shit and yells back. 09:04.000 --> 09:06.000 And so I kind of let it go, you know, 09:06.000 --> 09:07.000 and I figured, all right, 09:07.000 --> 09:09.000 so I'll figure out the laptop and electricity problems, 09:09.000 --> 09:10.000 whatever. 09:10.000 --> 09:13.000 And I'd seen, of course, on television, 09:13.000 --> 09:17.000 just about the only coverage I really saw of Hurricane Wilma 09:17.000 --> 09:21.000 Florida was this clip that's been played over and over again. 09:21.000 --> 09:22.000 And although very funny, 09:22.000 --> 09:25.000 to see Al Roker fallen his fat face, 09:25.000 --> 09:27.000 I know Al Roker, I've met him many times, 09:27.000 --> 09:29.000 not a nice guy. 09:29.000 --> 09:31.000 At least that was not my experience. 09:31.000 --> 09:33.000 So that was kind of funny, 09:33.000 --> 09:36.000 but it wasn't until yesterday that we're sitting in the office 09:36.000 --> 09:40.000 and Ron comes in and he's crouch behind his computer 09:40.000 --> 09:41.000 and he's like, where? 09:41.000 --> 09:43.000 And I'm like, what you talking about, 09:43.000 --> 09:45.000 you know, he's talking about all this stuff 09:45.000 --> 09:46.000 and something was fucked up. 09:46.000 --> 09:47.000 And what's wrong? 09:47.000 --> 09:48.000 He says, well, you know, 09:48.000 --> 09:51.000 there's 2.8 million people without electricity in Florida, 09:51.000 --> 09:54.000 which includes a lot of his extended family, 09:54.000 --> 09:58.000 his wife, Martha's family lives there in Miami, 09:58.000 --> 10:02.000 and they have their condo, 10:02.000 --> 10:04.000 which has been without power for, 10:04.000 --> 10:07.000 so it's been, at least a day, 10:07.000 --> 10:08.000 maybe even more. 10:08.000 --> 10:09.000 And I'm like, what? 10:09.000 --> 10:11.000 And then you start to think about it. 10:11.000 --> 10:14.000 You know, what happens if there's no electricity? 10:15.000 --> 10:17.000 And I think what happened in my mind is, 10:17.000 --> 10:18.000 sure, I've had power go out. 10:18.000 --> 10:20.000 You know, we used to live in Jersey, 10:20.000 --> 10:21.000 and we'd have a blizzard, 10:21.000 --> 10:22.000 and then the power would go out, 10:22.000 --> 10:24.000 but it would come back on, you know? 10:24.000 --> 10:25.000 But that's a blizzard. 10:25.000 --> 10:26.000 That's a little different, you know, 10:26.000 --> 10:28.000 where a power line might come down 10:28.000 --> 10:30.000 and it can basically be repaired 10:30.000 --> 10:31.000 reasonably quickly, 10:31.000 --> 10:33.000 but when it comes to the devastation of a hurricane, 10:33.000 --> 10:34.000 just imagine, 10:34.000 --> 10:36.000 just imagine for a second that the power, 10:39.000 --> 10:40.000 see what I mean? 10:40.000 --> 10:41.000 See how fucked up that is? 10:42.000 --> 10:43.000 And then that would, you know, 10:43.000 --> 10:44.000 power would go out, 10:44.000 --> 10:45.000 not just for a second there, 10:45.000 --> 10:47.000 but for 24 hours, 10:47.000 --> 10:48.000 48 hours, 10:48.000 --> 10:49.000 you know, 10:49.000 --> 10:50.000 think of the stuff that starts to happen, 10:50.000 --> 10:52.000 think of the stuff you can't do. 10:52.000 --> 10:53.000 Besides not being able to create 10:53.000 --> 10:54.000 or listen to podcasts, 10:54.000 --> 10:55.000 I think there's a lot more. 10:55.000 --> 10:57.000 And so now, 10:57.000 --> 10:58.000 now it's clicking in my head, 10:58.000 --> 10:59.000 I'm going, 10:59.000 --> 11:00.000 oh, 11:00.000 --> 11:01.000 okay, 11:01.000 --> 11:02.000 you know, 11:02.000 --> 11:03.000 of course, 11:03.000 --> 11:04.000 PW was way more involved, 11:04.000 --> 11:05.000 you know, 11:05.000 --> 11:06.000 living in Tampa, 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 way more preoccupied with what was going on, 11:08.000 --> 11:10.000 and I really wasn't sensitive to that. 11:10.000 --> 11:12.000 And so apologies PW. 11:12.000 --> 11:13.000 There you go honey, 11:13.000 --> 11:14.000 I love you. 11:14.000 --> 11:15.000 You know I did. 11:15.000 --> 11:16.000 Terry, 11:16.000 --> 11:17.000 yes, 11:17.000 --> 11:18.000 Scott Sloan from the Alaska Pod Show, 11:18.000 --> 11:19.000 way up here in Anchorage, 11:19.000 --> 11:20.000 Alaska. 11:20.000 --> 11:21.000 I have a question for you, 11:21.000 --> 11:22.000 but before I ask, 11:22.000 --> 11:24.000 I'd like to thank you for plugging us in 11:24.000 --> 11:26.000 to show number 265, 11:26.000 --> 11:28.000 but this leads to my question. 11:28.000 --> 11:30.000 I was speaking with a promoter today 11:30.000 --> 11:33.000 from an artist that is listed in the pod 11:33.000 --> 11:35.000 safe music network. 11:35.000 --> 11:37.000 One of the questions we had 11:37.000 --> 11:38.000 and we were discussing 11:38.000 --> 11:41.000 was when it'd be great to collect data, 11:41.000 --> 11:43.000 to see how well the pod safe music network 11:43.000 --> 11:45.000 is converting for the artist, 11:45.000 --> 11:47.000 musician or even the podcaster. 11:47.000 --> 11:49.000 It would be nice to know what kind of impact 11:49.000 --> 11:52.000 the pod safe music network is making, 11:52.000 --> 11:54.000 and if this data is not available, 11:54.000 --> 11:56.000 maybe it's something that can be plugged in 11:56.000 --> 11:59.000 to the membership side of the pod safe music network. 11:59.000 --> 12:01.000 Maybe a simple survey 12:01.000 --> 12:03.000 that everyone could fill out 12:03.000 --> 12:05.000 and learn or communicate 12:06.000 --> 12:09.000 how well the pod safe music network has served us. 12:09.000 --> 12:11.000 That's all I have for you today. 12:11.000 --> 12:12.000 Have a great day, 12:12.000 --> 12:13.000 take care of yourself, 12:13.000 --> 12:15.000 and from Anchorage, Alaska, 12:15.000 --> 12:16.000 this is Scott Sloan. 12:16.000 --> 12:18.000 Scott, thank you very much. 12:18.000 --> 12:19.000 Well, very good question, 12:19.000 --> 12:21.000 and I have a couple answers for you. 12:21.000 --> 12:22.000 And of course, you know, 12:22.000 --> 12:24.000 the pod safe music network is so dear to my heart, 12:24.000 --> 12:25.000 and I think it's extremely, 12:25.000 --> 12:27.000 extremely successful. 12:27.000 --> 12:28.000 I think it's important to what we're doing 12:28.000 --> 12:29.000 with pod casting. 12:29.000 --> 12:31.000 So let me address those for that question. 12:31.000 --> 12:32.000 First of all, 12:32.000 --> 12:33.000 yeah, we do have data, 12:33.000 --> 12:35.000 and we have some really interesting data, 12:35.000 --> 12:37.000 and we're going to start making that available very quickly. 12:37.000 --> 12:39.000 The first piece of data is the spins. 12:39.000 --> 12:42.000 Now you can go to the homepage of the pod safe music network, 12:42.000 --> 12:44.000 and you can see the top spins of all time, 12:44.000 --> 12:46.000 the top listens of all time 12:46.000 --> 12:47.000 and the top rated songs. 12:47.000 --> 12:48.000 What we've done is, 12:48.000 --> 12:50.000 and we've been kind of evaluating the list, 12:50.000 --> 12:52.000 we've created top spins for the day, 12:52.000 --> 12:53.000 top spins for the week, 12:53.000 --> 12:54.000 top spins for the month, 12:54.000 --> 12:56.000 and top spins for all time, 12:56.000 --> 12:59.000 a spin being when a podcaster plays the song, 12:59.000 --> 13:00.000 and then reports it back to the network. 13:00.000 --> 13:01.000 Which, by the way, 13:01.000 --> 13:02.000 you do have to do. 13:02.000 --> 13:04.000 If you sign up for the pod safe music network, 13:04.000 --> 13:05.000 and you're using songs from it, 13:05.000 --> 13:08.000 you have to report when you play it. 13:08.000 --> 13:09.000 And we're going to have to, 13:09.000 --> 13:10.000 I guess, 13:10.000 --> 13:11.000 well, 13:11.000 --> 13:14.000 we have a couple of ways that we're policing as the wrong word, 13:14.000 --> 13:15.000 but fuck it. 13:15.000 --> 13:16.000 We sign an agreement, 13:16.000 --> 13:19.000 the pod safe music artist put their stuff up there for you to use. 13:19.000 --> 13:21.000 All you have to do is report back to the network. 13:21.000 --> 13:23.000 So that data is going to be made available. 13:23.000 --> 13:25.000 I'm very pleased with what I'm seeing, 13:25.000 --> 13:27.000 and so that's the first conversion, 13:27.000 --> 13:28.000 I guess, 13:28.000 --> 13:29.000 you can say, 13:29.000 --> 13:34.000 here's these songs actually being played on the different podcasts. 13:34.000 --> 13:36.000 So that will be the first metric. 13:36.000 --> 13:39.000 The next obvious metric is conversion to sales, 13:39.000 --> 13:40.000 because that is really, 13:40.000 --> 13:44.000 I would presume the way most artists are going to gauge their success, 13:44.000 --> 13:45.000 is, 13:45.000 --> 13:46.000 you know, 13:46.000 --> 13:47.000 whatever I've done, 13:47.000 --> 13:48.000 have I grown my audience, 13:48.000 --> 13:53.000 and the best way to really measure that is who was purchased my CD or tracks. 13:53.000 --> 13:56.000 So that's all part of this unlabel thing I've been talking about. 13:56.000 --> 13:57.000 So, 13:57.000 --> 13:58.000 you know, 13:58.000 --> 13:59.000 that's on the way. 13:59.000 --> 14:00.000 Today is not the day to talk about that, 14:00.000 --> 14:01.000 but that's on the way. 14:01.000 --> 14:04.000 So I think those will be the two most important pieces of data. 14:04.000 --> 14:05.000 And it's, 14:05.000 --> 14:06.000 and of course, 14:06.000 --> 14:07.000 so there's always, 14:07.000 --> 14:09.000 so the spins is important. 14:09.000 --> 14:11.000 There's a couple of different shows doing, 14:11.000 --> 14:12.000 I love hearing this, 14:12.000 --> 14:14.000 doing the pod safe music network top 10. 14:14.000 --> 14:16.000 In addition to that, 14:16.000 --> 14:17.000 today actually, 14:17.000 --> 14:20.000 I'm going to play a piece from the pod safe music rewind. 14:20.000 --> 14:23.000 The pod chose pod safe music rewind show, 14:23.000 --> 14:24.000 which is a compilation, 14:24.000 --> 14:26.000 a weekly compilation of all of the pod safe music shows, 14:26.000 --> 14:27.000 or not all, 14:27.000 --> 14:30.000 but the top pod safe music shows, 14:30.000 --> 14:32.000 and just a song from each of those. 14:32.000 --> 14:35.000 It's a really tripping out to that yesterday. 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 So we'll talk about that in a bit. 14:37.000 --> 14:39.000 But it's very much like what the, 14:39.000 --> 14:40.000 what the, 14:40.000 --> 14:41.000 the business is today. 14:41.000 --> 14:44.000 Only we've eliminated all the complicated crap. 14:44.000 --> 14:46.000 And keep your eye on it. 14:46.000 --> 14:47.000 So the Nick, 14:47.000 --> 14:48.000 I don't know. 14:48.000 --> 14:49.000 So I can't, 14:49.000 --> 14:50.000 I just had this usually a text message coming in, 14:50.000 --> 14:53.000 so I just want to make sure that I don't miss the blackberry, 14:53.000 --> 14:55.000 vibrating across the floor. 14:56.000 --> 14:57.000 Let's see. 14:57.000 --> 14:58.000 Now, 14:58.000 --> 14:59.000 it's a brawn call me. 14:59.000 --> 15:00.000 Come on, man. 15:00.000 --> 15:01.000 I'm in the middle of the show. 15:01.000 --> 15:04.000 You have no respect for the show. 15:04.000 --> 15:06.000 All right. 15:06.000 --> 15:08.000 Let me get to John here and then, 15:08.000 --> 15:09.000 and we'll continue. 15:09.000 --> 15:10.000 Hey Adam. 15:10.000 --> 15:12.000 This is Dr. John from the Arborxonist podcast, 15:12.000 --> 15:13.000 coming out of Louisville, Kentucky. 15:13.000 --> 15:16.000 I've heard you talk about doing media outlet interviews, 15:16.000 --> 15:18.000 several times on the source code. 15:18.000 --> 15:21.000 And I wanted to send you some feedback and ask you, 15:21.000 --> 15:24.000 if you had any tips for being interviewed about pod casting. 15:25.000 --> 15:27.000 See, a reporter from the local newspaper here, 15:27.000 --> 15:29.000 the courier journal has contacted me, 15:29.000 --> 15:32.000 and I'm the first podcaster in our area that he's talked to, 15:32.000 --> 15:36.000 which makes me both honored and a little bit nervous. 15:36.000 --> 15:39.000 I'm wondering if there are any techniques that you've come across 15:39.000 --> 15:41.000 to explain things, 15:41.000 --> 15:45.000 if there are any sort of pitfalls that you've commonly read into, 15:45.000 --> 15:49.000 or any other tips or pointers you could give me for sort of 15:49.000 --> 15:51.000 dealing with the press. 15:51.000 --> 15:55.000 This is going to be the first story that has ever run locally. 15:55.000 --> 15:59.000 And I want to do my best to get pod casting out there 15:59.000 --> 16:01.000 and push it out to a wider audience. 16:01.000 --> 16:04.000 And so, I figured who better to ask 16:04.000 --> 16:07.000 than the pod father himself, Mr. Adam Curry. 16:07.000 --> 16:10.000 I'm also wondering if I could just do a general shout out 16:10.000 --> 16:13.000 to any podcasters or podcas listeners in the Louisville area, 16:13.000 --> 16:16.000 who might want to be interviewed for the story as well 16:16.000 --> 16:19.000 because he's looking for lots and lots of folks. 16:19.000 --> 16:21.000 So if you want to contact me, 16:21.000 --> 16:23.000 I can put you in touch with the reporter. 16:23.000 --> 16:27.000 My email address is AVNEST at gmail.com 16:27.000 --> 16:29.000 or you can go to my website, 16:29.000 --> 16:31.000 which is www.ardvarksnest.com. 16:31.000 --> 16:36.000 That's A-A-R-D-V-A-R-K-S-N-E-S-T.com. 16:36.000 --> 16:39.000 And hopefully we can get some great exposure 16:39.000 --> 16:42.000 for pod casting and find some new listeners 16:42.000 --> 16:44.000 for our million listener March. 16:44.000 --> 16:45.000 Thank you. 16:45.000 --> 16:47.000 Yeah, I'm on with that, Dr. John. 16:48.000 --> 16:50.000 Okay, well, this is very difficult. 16:50.000 --> 16:53.000 There's no way I'm going to be able to tell you 16:53.000 --> 16:55.000 what to expect or how to do it 16:55.000 --> 16:59.000 because it really comes from doing a lot of interviews 16:59.000 --> 17:01.000 that you learn a lot of tricks. 17:01.000 --> 17:03.000 So let me see if I can give you the top line 17:03.000 --> 17:04.000 most important ones. 17:04.000 --> 17:08.000 First of all, you have to really listen to the interview. 17:08.000 --> 17:10.000 Remember, this person is asking you questions, 17:10.000 --> 17:12.000 but their questions will almost always tell you 17:12.000 --> 17:14.000 what they're, what they have in their head 17:14.000 --> 17:16.000 and what they're already thinking 17:17.000 --> 17:19.000 I think every journalist just like every human being 17:19.000 --> 17:21.000 has an opinion about something. 17:21.000 --> 17:24.000 And it has happened to me so often 17:24.000 --> 17:28.000 that the questions will come in the form of an answer. 17:28.000 --> 17:30.000 So let me give you an example. 17:30.000 --> 17:33.000 Someone might say, so most podcasts are really about 17:33.000 --> 17:35.000 pod casting still, right? 17:35.000 --> 17:38.000 They're not really about all different kinds of topics. 17:38.000 --> 17:40.000 Now, when you get a question like that, 17:40.000 --> 17:42.000 that's when your antennae should go up, 17:42.000 --> 17:43.000 way up and go, 17:44.000 --> 17:46.000 because that means that the journalist 17:46.000 --> 17:49.000 already has made a decision in his or her head. 17:49.000 --> 17:52.000 And it's going to be very, very difficult 17:52.000 --> 17:53.000 to take them away from that. 17:53.000 --> 17:54.000 So when you hear questions like that, 17:54.000 --> 17:56.000 you almost automatically know what the angle 17:56.000 --> 17:57.000 of the article is going to be. 17:57.000 --> 17:59.000 And from there, you can start to chip away at it 17:59.000 --> 18:01.000 and you have to be very concise. 18:01.000 --> 18:05.000 And usually just, if the answer is no, 18:05.000 --> 18:07.000 then you should say no. 18:07.000 --> 18:10.000 No, and let me tell you what it is 18:10.000 --> 18:12.000 or how it is or the way it is. 18:12.000 --> 18:15.000 I mean, that, that no has to be right up there in front. 18:15.000 --> 18:16.000 That's, that's the most important thing 18:16.000 --> 18:19.000 because journalists really can get stuck 18:19.000 --> 18:21.000 in something that they believe is true 18:21.000 --> 18:23.000 and they're just looking for confirmation. 18:23.000 --> 18:24.000 And I'm not saying that that's bad journalism 18:24.000 --> 18:26.000 is just my experience. 18:26.000 --> 18:28.000 Now, as it pertains to the 100 million listener 18:28.000 --> 18:30.000 March, and I think we're probably 18:30.000 --> 18:32.000 a tenth of the way there. 18:32.000 --> 18:35.000 And please, you can certainly report that number. 18:35.000 --> 18:38.000 The, the most important thing, 18:38.000 --> 18:41.000 or what I always talk about in interviews 18:41.000 --> 18:44.000 about podcasting is, look, you know, 18:44.000 --> 18:47.000 this demand, because that's really what it is. 18:47.000 --> 18:48.000 It's listener demand. 18:48.000 --> 18:51.000 Podcasting is being driven by people 18:51.000 --> 18:54.000 who are sick and tired of listening to the radio. 18:54.000 --> 18:56.000 They're tired of what they're being given. 18:56.000 --> 18:58.000 They're tired of the limited choices. 18:58.000 --> 18:59.000 They're tired. 18:59.000 --> 19:03.000 It's, it's not even up to technical standards 19:03.000 --> 19:05.000 of, of today's technology. 19:05.000 --> 19:06.000 Look at what we can do. 19:06.000 --> 19:08.000 So, that's what drove podcasting. 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 I think if you drive that point home 19:10.000 --> 19:11.000 and you can give examples. 19:11.000 --> 19:14.000 You know, we've done that several times here on the source code. 19:14.000 --> 19:17.000 The examples are, you know, you say, 19:17.000 --> 19:20.000 when's the last time you heard a disjockey on the radio? 19:20.000 --> 19:23.000 Go, I love that fucking song. 19:23.000 --> 19:26.000 I'm gonna play it every single day till you love it too. 19:26.000 --> 19:28.000 I think it's been about 15, 20 years 19:28.000 --> 19:32.000 since you heard a disjockey talk about a song at all. 19:32.000 --> 19:34.000 So, those are the types of examples. 19:34.000 --> 19:36.000 And that's the type of stuff that I would focus on. 19:37.000 --> 19:39.000 And just beware. 19:39.000 --> 19:42.000 Beware of the questions that you're being asked. 19:42.000 --> 19:44.000 Listen to them carefully and, you know, 19:44.000 --> 19:46.000 and try and process before you answer. 19:46.000 --> 19:48.000 Why is this question being asked? 19:48.000 --> 19:50.000 It's probably because there's already something set there 19:50.000 --> 19:52.000 that you might have to undo. 19:52.000 --> 19:55.000 Sometimes, of course, you can give out a big yes 19:55.000 --> 19:57.000 and affirm whatever the journalist is thinking 19:57.000 --> 19:58.000 if you agree with it. 19:58.000 --> 20:03.000 So, that would be kind of my, kind of my advice to you there. 20:04.000 --> 20:05.000 Oh, my goodness. 20:05.000 --> 20:06.000 Let me see. 20:06.000 --> 20:08.000 So, I don't have a hit test. 20:08.000 --> 20:10.000 Y'ample that has been very, very busy. 20:10.000 --> 20:12.000 You know, he's setting up this radio school 20:12.000 --> 20:14.000 and he's teaching people how to create radio 20:14.000 --> 20:16.000 and there's a whole podcast in curriculum 20:16.000 --> 20:18.000 and so he's been very busy semini email 20:18.000 --> 20:20.000 and wanted to find this the hit test. 20:20.000 --> 20:21.000 Yes, John. 20:21.000 --> 20:22.000 Of course, I miss it. 20:22.000 --> 20:24.000 No backtrack podcast today. 20:24.000 --> 20:27.000 But something else came in from a apocalypse doll, 20:27.000 --> 20:29.000 which will suffice for now. 20:29.000 --> 20:32.000 So Adam, you think you know your hits when they're home? 20:32.000 --> 20:33.000 It's a homeless. 20:33.000 --> 20:34.000 Let's see how well you know your hits 20:34.000 --> 20:35.000 when they're hummed by me. 20:35.000 --> 20:36.000 I'm popular of style. 20:36.000 --> 20:38.000 This is a hum test number one. 20:38.000 --> 20:39.000 Okay. 20:39.000 --> 20:40.000 Let's get it started. 20:45.000 --> 20:46.000 Number one. 20:56.000 --> 20:57.000 What was that one? 20:57.000 --> 20:58.000 Oh, can you figure it out? 20:58.000 --> 20:59.000 Adam, sorry. 20:59.000 --> 21:00.000 Okay. 21:00.000 --> 21:01.000 Let's go to the next one. 21:01.000 --> 21:02.000 All right. 21:02.000 --> 21:03.000 Number two. 21:11.000 --> 21:12.000 I know that one. 21:15.000 --> 21:16.000 All right. 21:16.000 --> 21:17.000 How'd you do with that one, Adam Curry? 21:17.000 --> 21:18.000 That's like an instrument time. 21:18.000 --> 21:19.000 I like to call it the late 80s. 21:19.000 --> 21:20.000 You bet. 21:20.000 --> 21:21.000 Up next. 21:21.000 --> 21:22.000 That's my three and the last one. 21:22.000 --> 21:24.000 LA guns is what it was. 21:31.000 --> 21:32.000 All right. 21:32.000 --> 21:33.000 Adam Curry. 21:33.000 --> 21:34.000 How'd you do? 21:34.000 --> 21:35.000 I don't know. 21:35.000 --> 21:36.000 Okay. 21:36.000 --> 21:37.000 Let's see. 21:37.000 --> 21:38.000 The first one. 21:38.000 --> 21:39.000 What is this? 21:39.000 --> 21:40.000 All right. 21:40.000 --> 21:41.000 Adam Curry. 21:41.000 --> 21:42.000 How'd you do? 21:42.000 --> 21:43.000 I don't know. 21:43.000 --> 21:44.000 I don't know. 21:44.000 --> 21:45.000 Okay. 21:45.000 --> 21:46.000 Let's see. 21:46.000 --> 21:47.000 The first one. 21:47.000 --> 21:48.000 What is this? 21:48.000 --> 21:49.000 Oh. 21:49.000 --> 21:50.000 Oh. 21:50.000 --> 21:51.000 Oh. 21:51.000 --> 21:52.000 Oh. 21:52.000 --> 21:53.000 Oh. 21:53.000 --> 21:54.000 Oh. 21:54.000 --> 21:56.000 Thirty-eight special. 21:56.000 --> 21:57.000 Oh. 21:58.000 --> 21:59.000 There. 21:59.000 --> 22:00.000 Oh. 22:00.000 --> 22:01.000 Second Humming. 22:01.000 --> 22:03.000 Bad Humdrop. 22:08.000 --> 22:10.000 Number one. 22:10.000 --> 22:11.000 That's. 22:11.000 --> 22:13.000 Hold on loosely by thirty-eight special. 22:13.000 --> 22:15.000 Let's check out the answer to number two. 22:15.000 --> 22:17.000 Mmm. 22:17.000 --> 22:18.000 Uh-oh. 22:18.000 --> 22:19.000 Yeah. 22:19.000 --> 22:20.000 I was right. 22:20.000 --> 22:21.000 Only guns. 22:21.000 --> 22:23.000 Ballet or J? 22:23.000 --> 22:24.000 Baby. 22:24.000 --> 22:25.000 Uh-oh. 22:25.000 --> 22:26.000 Uh-oh. 22:26.000 --> 22:44.460 Ah, sorry Adam man. I'm kind of reminiscing here. It takes me back to my freshman year high school 22:44.460 --> 22:48.900 That's LA guns with the bow to Jane. I got one up next the answer number three 22:56.000 --> 22:58.000 I'd be like oh 22:58.750 --> 23:26.000 [ Music ] 23:26.000 --> 23:40.400 Oh, sorry Adam man. I was into it. How about that by a bit along with? It's a good song, man 23:40.400 --> 23:44.800 So of course, I'd say Duran Duran with Henry like the wolf. All right, how'd you do man? 23:44.800 --> 23:48.200 Wow, you are humdinger or you're humiliated 23:48.760 --> 23:52.600 All right, anyway, this has been a popular style. I'm home. Come over. Number one 23:53.400 --> 23:55.400 All right 23:55.400 --> 24:02.160 Thank you very much. There's all different variations of the format I guess. All right, you're gonna listen to a piece of potsafe 24:02.160 --> 24:05.160 Is it from Brian bucket? 24:05.160 --> 24:09.920 Just gonna take about four or five minutes. I'm gonna go shake out the dry laundry and put the wet stuff into the dry 24:09.920 --> 24:13.040 I'll be right back. This is let the buggy loose on the daily source code 24:16.250 --> 25:48.750 [ Music ] 25:53.600 --> 25:55.600 Let the buggy loose 25:56.250 --> 29:28.750 [ Music ] 29:29.800 --> 29:36.640 Oh, yeah, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, I Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Oh, Dear God! 29:36.640 --> 29:41.640 music network, music.pacho.com last night told you I had an epiphany. 29:41.640 --> 29:43.640 Jah came to visit me, man. 29:43.640 --> 29:47.640 I could have said God could have said Muhammad and could have said Buddha, but it was 29:47.640 --> 29:51.640 Jah, you have to know, and I know, you've heard the lighter click, so you know 29:51.640 --> 29:52.640 what my voice is. 29:52.640 --> 29:54.640 And it ain't tobacco. 29:54.640 --> 29:56.640 And it ain't tobacco. 29:56.640 --> 30:00.640 And I did a documentary of Jamaica. 30:00.640 --> 30:03.640 Pool, this will be, let me just think. 30:03.640 --> 30:06.640 I'm going to say this is about 12 years ago. 30:06.640 --> 30:09.640 Maybe even a little bit longer than that. 30:09.640 --> 30:11.640 And I fell in love with Jamaica. 30:11.640 --> 30:14.640 I completely fell in love with Jamaica. 30:14.640 --> 30:17.640 And learned a lot about the culture. 30:17.640 --> 30:22.640 The documentary that I did involved a lot of Rastafarai stuff. 30:22.640 --> 30:24.640 You know, a lot of stuff. 30:24.640 --> 30:27.640 Obviously, you can't go to Jamaica and you can't get into the culture without 30:27.640 --> 30:32.640 hooking up with Bob Marley's mom and going to Hope Road, which is where his house 30:32.640 --> 30:36.640 is now museum and really getting into what Bob Marley represented. 30:36.640 --> 30:39.640 And I've many, many friends in Jamaica. 30:39.640 --> 30:42.640 And I think since then, we've been on vacation in Jamaica. 30:42.640 --> 30:44.640 I'm probably 15, 16 times. 30:44.640 --> 30:47.640 We got a little, we owe deed a little bit on Jamaica. 30:47.640 --> 30:51.640 So we haven't been back in a couple years, but we've been talking about it just recently 30:51.640 --> 30:54.640 saying, oh, man, we really need to go back to Jamaica. 30:54.640 --> 30:57.640 We're really, it's so nice and so relaxing. 30:57.640 --> 31:01.640 And when I was doing this documentary, I really did start to believe the whole 31:01.640 --> 31:04.640 idea of the holy herb. 31:04.640 --> 31:06.640 And it did wonders from me last night, man. 31:06.640 --> 31:08.640 Oh, boy, it all came to me. 31:08.640 --> 31:10.640 And it just, it just came so fast. 31:10.640 --> 31:12.640 I got out, I jumped out of bed, started writing stuff down. 31:12.640 --> 31:14.640 I was almost ready to call people when I realized it, like, you know, 31:14.640 --> 31:15.640 quarter or two. 31:15.640 --> 31:18.640 So the minute I'm done with the show today, it's off to the office, 31:18.640 --> 31:20.640 because I got some stuff to share. 31:20.640 --> 31:23.640 And I've been wanting to share the office with you guys. 31:23.640 --> 31:25.640 I've been thinking about doing a sound seeing tool. 31:25.640 --> 31:29.640 We've really just been so incredibly busy doing the show in the morning. 31:29.640 --> 31:32.640 And you feel like you kind of, you know, behind the game already, 31:32.640 --> 31:34.640 just because of the time difference and then I'm in the office 31:34.640 --> 31:36.640 around 11, 11, 30 and, you know, I was like, 31:36.640 --> 31:39.640 half the day's over, you know, got a hurry, got to do stuff. 31:39.640 --> 31:42.640 So I really haven't had the time to do the, 31:42.640 --> 31:44.640 to do the sound scene tour I wanted to do. 31:44.640 --> 31:47.640 And I wanted to introduce you to a couple of people who work at Pod Show. 31:47.640 --> 31:50.640 And then Michael Butler sent me an email yesterday. 31:50.640 --> 31:53.640 We did a job cast a couple of weeks ago. 31:53.640 --> 31:57.640 And job cast is basically us saying, hey, here's the people we're looking for. 31:57.640 --> 31:59.640 We've hired a number of people through that job cast. 31:59.640 --> 32:03.640 And he created a second job cast much shorter than the first one. 32:03.640 --> 32:06.640 And normally I would just put that up on the weekend as a, you know, 32:06.640 --> 32:08.640 separately in the daily source code feed. 32:08.640 --> 32:09.640 So you could get it. 32:09.640 --> 32:11.640 But as I listened to this one, 32:11.640 --> 32:15.640 it actually is a sound seeing tour of the office and some of the people at Pod Show. 32:15.640 --> 32:18.640 So I figured, I put it in the show today because it's, 32:18.640 --> 32:21.640 yeah, it really gives a good representation of the vibe, 32:21.640 --> 32:22.640 the feeling. 32:22.640 --> 32:24.640 And if you're looking for a gig, 32:24.640 --> 32:25.640 it might be handy. 32:25.640 --> 32:27.640 So here is job cast number two. 32:27.640 --> 32:30.640 Now let's go over to Michael Butler. 32:30.640 --> 32:32.640 Hi, this is Michael Butler. 32:32.640 --> 32:35.640 And I'm here with job cast number two. 32:35.640 --> 32:37.640 I'm at the Pod Show offices with Brian Longus. 32:37.640 --> 32:38.640 How you doing Brian? 32:38.640 --> 32:39.640 Doing great. 32:39.640 --> 32:40.640 How are you Michael? 32:40.640 --> 32:41.640 I'm fine. 32:41.640 --> 32:42.640 Couldn't be better. 32:42.640 --> 32:43.640 So what's your official title? 32:43.640 --> 32:44.640 VP of operations. 32:44.640 --> 32:45.640 Vice president. 32:45.640 --> 32:46.640 Okay. 32:46.640 --> 32:47.640 Great. 32:47.640 --> 32:48.640 You got to promote. 32:48.640 --> 32:50.640 What would you, I thought you were before director of operations. 32:50.640 --> 32:52.640 Vice president, higher than director. 32:52.640 --> 32:53.640 Yeah, it is. 32:53.640 --> 32:54.640 So you got to promote. 32:54.640 --> 32:55.640 All right. 32:55.640 --> 32:57.640 So what are we doing on this job cast today? 32:57.640 --> 33:00.640 Well, first we wanted to say, hey, the first job cast, 33:00.640 --> 33:02.640 we got an unbelievable response. 33:02.640 --> 33:04.640 We hired a bunch of people, some fantastic talent, 33:04.640 --> 33:06.640 and we're always looking for more. 33:06.640 --> 33:09.640 So just thanks to everyone who emailed the resumes in. 33:09.640 --> 33:10.640 We got so many. 33:10.640 --> 33:12.640 We were flooded for a couple days. 33:12.640 --> 33:14.640 All we could do was really attend to all the resumes and 33:14.640 --> 33:16.640 increase that we're coming in. 33:16.640 --> 33:20.640 So at this point, we're looking for even more people. 33:20.640 --> 33:22.640 And so we wanted to make sure we would let everyone know, 33:22.640 --> 33:23.640 hey, we are looking at them. 33:23.640 --> 33:26.640 Some people we didn't even get a chance to email back and say, 33:26.640 --> 33:28.640 thank you for sending it in. 33:28.640 --> 33:30.640 If don't worry, if you haven't heard from us, 33:30.640 --> 33:32.640 we have looked at the resume. 33:32.640 --> 33:37.640 Yeah, I got a bunch of emails myself, and I have nothing to do with 33:37.640 --> 33:39.640 this other than being the host of this job cast. 33:39.640 --> 33:40.640 I just sent them all your way. 33:40.640 --> 33:41.640 That's perfect. 33:41.640 --> 33:42.640 Okay. 33:42.640 --> 33:45.640 So those jobs, the ones that you were looking for were kind of 33:45.640 --> 33:46.640 already filled. 33:46.640 --> 33:49.640 I wouldn't say they were filled, because we're still looking for more people. 33:49.640 --> 33:52.640 We had a couple of great hires, and we're still looking for more 33:52.640 --> 33:56.640 and technology, sales and marketing, finance, many different 33:56.640 --> 33:57.640 areas and groups. 33:57.640 --> 33:58.640 All right. 33:58.640 --> 34:01.640 So any specific guys you're looking for, guys or girls you're looking 34:01.640 --> 34:02.640 for? 34:02.640 --> 34:03.640 Absolutely. 34:03.640 --> 34:04.640 Great question. 34:04.640 --> 34:06.640 In terms of technology, we're always still looking for those that 34:06.640 --> 34:10.640 have very high level architecture background, even people with 34:10.640 --> 34:12.640 not just PHP programming, but database. 34:12.640 --> 34:15.640 And then we're also looking for people specific in certain areas. 34:15.640 --> 34:18.640 Those that have it had experience with search technology, 34:19.640 --> 34:22.640 telephony, mobile computing, that sort of thing. 34:22.640 --> 34:26.640 So anyone who has specific experience, we'd be really interested in seeing 34:26.640 --> 34:30.640 their resume and having them send in some more information about themselves. 34:30.640 --> 34:36.640 What's the official job title of these people you're looking for? 34:36.640 --> 34:37.640 Is there an official title? 34:37.640 --> 34:40.640 There's a couple different ones, depending upon the positions. 34:40.640 --> 34:44.640 At the moment, we've also not only got the technology people, but we've got 34:44.640 --> 34:46.640 sales and marketing, looking for what we call more 34:46.640 --> 34:50.640 supervisors, people who know the web in terms of web advertising. 34:50.640 --> 34:54.640 I should say media, those also in finance and on the site. 34:54.640 --> 34:56.640 You'll see a particular job description for a controller. 34:56.640 --> 35:00.640 And I saw on the website, I was just messing around on podger.com. 35:00.640 --> 35:02.640 And it said, you're looking for a web intern. 35:02.640 --> 35:04.640 What's a web intern? 35:04.640 --> 35:07.640 Actually, the reason we posted that is we're looking for actually a couple 35:07.640 --> 35:11.640 individuals that have a broad range of skills that are willing to 35:11.640 --> 35:14.640 and would enjoy and have that real entrepreneurial background 35:14.640 --> 35:17.640 and spirit because that's what our company is all about. 35:17.640 --> 35:20.640 We've got really excited talented people here at the rock stars. 35:20.640 --> 35:23.640 If you will and we're looking for what we call a web intern, 35:23.640 --> 35:25.640 so I couldn't think of a better way to explain it. 35:25.640 --> 35:29.640 But they'll be able to be involved in almost every aspect of our business, 35:29.640 --> 35:30.640 helping out in many different ways. 35:30.640 --> 35:32.640 So they do need some programming background. 35:32.640 --> 35:36.640 I mean, like a PHP, my SQL, a Lamp environment, 35:36.640 --> 35:40.640 but they'll be able to touch and deal with different individuals 35:40.640 --> 35:41.640 and different groups. 35:41.640 --> 35:44.640 So I'm taking maybe a college kid if you need to. 35:44.640 --> 35:45.640 Absolutely. 35:45.640 --> 35:48.640 In college, recently graduated, someone who's just really even 35:48.640 --> 35:51.640 self taught if they've got that experience that we're looking for. 35:51.640 --> 35:52.640 That's great. 35:52.640 --> 35:55.640 I'll bet you'll get a ton of response from the college kids. 35:55.640 --> 35:56.640 I'm sure. 35:56.640 --> 35:58.640 Okay, so anything else? 35:58.640 --> 35:59.640 No, that's it. 35:59.640 --> 36:01.640 That's basically, you know, in a nutshell, 36:01.640 --> 36:05.640 we still want to obviously keep people interested, 36:05.640 --> 36:06.640 keep them setting in the resumes. 36:06.640 --> 36:08.640 I mean, we know they're interested because we get so many 36:08.640 --> 36:10.640 on a daily basis of fantastic. 36:10.640 --> 36:14.640 We've almost spent a good, some of us half our day or more 36:14.640 --> 36:18.640 and others just solely doing this because recruiting has been so important for us. 36:18.640 --> 36:20.640 And you sent it to jobs at podshow.com. 36:20.640 --> 36:21.640 Exactly. 36:21.640 --> 36:23.640 Now the people that you hired, are they in the office right now? 36:23.640 --> 36:25.640 Yeah, actually they're here today and I should say this is our 36:25.640 --> 36:28.640 our temp space before we move into our new space. 36:28.640 --> 36:29.640 All right, so let's take the microphones. 36:29.640 --> 36:33.640 We'll kind of like do a mini sound seeing tour of the podshow offices here. 36:33.640 --> 36:34.640 All right. 36:34.640 --> 36:35.640 So here we got the front desk. 36:35.640 --> 36:36.640 Okay. 36:36.640 --> 36:39.640 And as you walk from front to back, got the mini fridge. 36:39.640 --> 36:41.640 And this is the bathroom with bathroom. 36:41.640 --> 36:42.640 The bathroom. 36:42.640 --> 36:43.640 Download is done from. 36:43.640 --> 36:45.640 And then the main area where everyone sits at the moment. 36:45.640 --> 36:48.640 You can see we're cramp because we're hiring so fast. 36:48.640 --> 36:53.640 And there's Chris McIntyre with the eye dog on his desk. 36:53.640 --> 36:55.640 We've got Matt Oliver. 36:55.640 --> 36:58.640 Just recently joined us in the last couple of weeks. 36:58.640 --> 36:59.640 Say hello Matt. 36:59.640 --> 37:00.640 Hello. 37:00.640 --> 37:04.640 Actually, here's another individual Kevin who just joined recently. 37:04.640 --> 37:07.640 And is this one of the recent hires from the job cast? 37:07.640 --> 37:08.640 Yep. 37:09.640 --> 37:10.640 So what's your name? 37:10.640 --> 37:11.640 Kevin. 37:11.640 --> 37:12.640 Kevin. 37:12.640 --> 37:14.640 How you doing, Kevin? 37:14.640 --> 37:18.640 What are you doing on this job? 37:18.640 --> 37:20.640 What's your position? 37:20.640 --> 37:22.640 Software engineers. 37:22.640 --> 37:23.640 Okay. 37:23.640 --> 37:25.640 You've got anything you can tell us about what you've done. 37:25.640 --> 37:27.640 Or is it all top secret still? 37:27.640 --> 37:28.640 Pretty much top secret. 37:28.640 --> 37:29.640 Right. 37:29.640 --> 37:31.640 Everything Kevin does is top secret. 37:31.640 --> 37:32.640 Right. 37:32.640 --> 37:33.640 There you go. 37:33.640 --> 37:34.640 All right. 37:34.640 --> 37:37.640 We're going to introduce you to the Colleen and some others at the moment there. 37:37.640 --> 37:38.640 Business. 37:38.640 --> 37:39.640 We're going to top secret meeting. 37:39.640 --> 37:43.640 And actually, as we walk through, we're pretty much to the back of the office. 37:43.640 --> 37:47.640 And now we're back in the very back of the offices. 37:47.640 --> 37:52.640 And Ron Bloom is on the telephone. 37:52.640 --> 37:55.640 We'll see if we can listen in on a Ron Bloom conversation. 37:55.640 --> 37:59.640 We'll find some secret company inside information. 37:59.640 --> 38:00.640 Five. 38:00.640 --> 38:01.640 So. 38:01.640 --> 38:04.640 Who's that Michael Butler? 38:04.640 --> 38:05.640 That's me. 38:05.640 --> 38:06.640 How are you doing? 38:06.640 --> 38:08.640 Well, rock and roll geek entrepreneur. 38:08.640 --> 38:09.640 That's right. 38:09.640 --> 38:10.640 Ron Bloom. 38:10.640 --> 38:11.640 The King of Podio. 38:11.640 --> 38:12.640 The Podio. 38:12.640 --> 38:13.640 The Podinator. 38:13.640 --> 38:14.640 That's right. 38:14.640 --> 38:15.640 Yeah. 38:15.640 --> 38:16.640 At least I'm not the Pod mother. 38:16.640 --> 38:17.640 Right. 38:17.640 --> 38:18.640 Right. 38:18.640 --> 38:19.640 You're the. 38:19.640 --> 38:20.640 Let's see. 38:20.640 --> 38:21.640 Adam's the pod. 38:21.640 --> 38:22.640 Father. 38:22.640 --> 38:23.640 We already went through this. 38:23.640 --> 38:24.640 So you would be the. 38:24.640 --> 38:25.640 Marlon Brando. 38:25.640 --> 38:26.640 You're. 38:26.640 --> 38:27.640 You got to be hired the Marlon Brando. 38:27.640 --> 38:28.640 And the pod. 38:28.640 --> 38:30.640 I'm counting on you to work on that branding. 38:30.640 --> 38:32.640 Marlon Brando of me. 38:32.640 --> 38:35.640 So we're doing a little sound seeing thing of the of the offices. 38:35.640 --> 38:38.640 We're talking to a couple of people that were hired from the last job. 38:38.640 --> 38:42.640 Because we figured maybe we would go to the new offices and show. 38:42.640 --> 38:46.640 Or let the listeners hear how big the new offices are. 38:46.640 --> 38:47.640 How cool. 38:47.640 --> 38:48.640 How giant. 38:48.640 --> 38:49.640 There you go. 38:49.640 --> 38:50.640 I'm conceptually large. 38:50.640 --> 38:51.640 It's going to be like an echo chamber. 38:51.640 --> 38:52.640 It's going to be so big. 38:52.640 --> 38:53.640 It's going to be a car campus. 38:53.640 --> 38:54.640 That's right. 38:54.640 --> 38:55.640 The Podio campus. 38:55.640 --> 38:56.640 And we have some. 38:56.640 --> 38:58.640 Fountains in the front. 38:58.640 --> 39:00.640 What's building are you going to building one? 39:00.640 --> 39:01.640 Yeah. 39:01.640 --> 39:02.640 Building one. 39:02.640 --> 39:03.640 Okay. 39:03.640 --> 39:04.640 So we're going to building one of the project. 39:04.640 --> 39:05.640 No. 39:05.640 --> 39:06.640 We're building 42. 39:06.640 --> 39:07.640 Which one of the two you're going to? 39:07.640 --> 39:08.640 We'll start at the beginning. 39:08.640 --> 39:09.640 Okay. 39:09.640 --> 39:10.640 And we're in annex. 39:10.640 --> 39:13.640 We're in area 50. 39:13.640 --> 39:14.640 Something. 39:14.640 --> 39:15.640 Yeah. 39:15.640 --> 39:16.640 Yeah. 39:16.640 --> 39:17.640 Hey. 39:17.640 --> 39:18.640 69. 39:18.640 --> 39:19.640 We're getting. 39:19.640 --> 39:20.640 Thank you for your podcast, man. 39:20.640 --> 39:22.640 Because your your job task helped us get some great people. 39:22.640 --> 39:23.640 No. 39:23.640 --> 39:24.640 Thank you. 39:24.640 --> 39:25.640 No. 39:25.640 --> 39:26.640 Thank you. 39:26.640 --> 39:27.640 All right. 39:27.640 --> 39:28.640 So we're going to go talk to the new hires. 39:28.640 --> 39:29.640 You're working to hear more often now. 39:29.640 --> 39:30.640 All right. 39:30.640 --> 39:32.640 You're coming in and doing some great stuff with bands and things. 39:32.640 --> 39:33.640 All right. 39:33.640 --> 39:34.640 Be here. 39:34.640 --> 39:35.640 One week, I think. 39:35.640 --> 39:36.640 One week. 39:36.640 --> 39:37.640 The lower week. 39:37.640 --> 39:38.640 Cool, man. 39:38.640 --> 39:39.640 Because, you know, I recommend you for the job. 39:39.640 --> 39:41.640 Which is one of the reasons why it took so long for anybody to want you here. 39:41.640 --> 39:42.640 I appreciate it. 39:42.640 --> 39:43.640 Okay. 39:43.640 --> 39:44.640 I don't know what I'm going to do here. 39:44.640 --> 39:45.640 But I'm going to do it. 39:45.640 --> 39:46.640 I guess no. 39:46.640 --> 39:47.640 Well, you're doing it. 39:47.640 --> 39:49.640 Whatever it is that you're doing now plus some more stuff that we don't understand. 39:49.640 --> 39:51.640 You need a more coffee. 39:51.640 --> 39:52.640 There. 39:52.640 --> 39:53.640 Yeah. 39:53.640 --> 39:54.640 Which you guys beat me some on the way back. 39:54.640 --> 39:55.640 But that's across town. 39:55.640 --> 39:56.640 Only other campus in there. 39:56.640 --> 39:57.640 Yeah. 39:57.640 --> 39:58.640 All right. 39:58.640 --> 40:00.640 I'll be Simon Eisen years. 40:01.640 --> 40:02.640 Absolutely. 40:02.640 --> 40:04.640 And I'll be giving you the same treatment. 40:04.640 --> 40:05.640 Okay. 40:05.640 --> 40:06.640 Talk to you later. 40:18.640 --> 40:19.640 All right. 40:19.640 --> 40:21.640 A little bit of sound seeing tour and job cast. 40:21.640 --> 40:22.640 Thank you very much. 40:22.640 --> 40:23.640 Like a fun little rock roll. 40:23.640 --> 40:24.640 Get show. 40:27.640 --> 40:28.640 I was cool. 40:28.640 --> 40:29.640 That was very cool. 40:29.640 --> 40:30.640 That's part of it. 40:30.640 --> 40:31.640 I wasn't in it. 40:31.640 --> 40:32.640 I love it. 40:32.640 --> 40:35.640 So while that was playing, I folded up the whites. 40:35.640 --> 40:38.640 And the darks are now spinning around in the dryer. 40:38.640 --> 40:40.640 I have to ten more minutes to go. 40:40.640 --> 40:42.640 So just about at the end of the show. 40:42.640 --> 40:44.640 When that'll be done. 40:44.640 --> 40:45.640 You know what? 40:45.640 --> 40:46.640 That was so much talk. 40:46.640 --> 40:47.640 Let me play some music for you. 40:47.640 --> 40:50.640 This is from the Pod Show Music Rewind, which you can find. 40:50.640 --> 40:54.640 Well, I think we're putting on the homepage actually today of the PodSafe Music Network. 40:54.640 --> 40:55.640 Music.com. 40:55.640 --> 40:58.640 This is Marcus Couch puts this together once a week. 40:58.640 --> 41:05.640 And it is literally an overview of all of the top PodSafe music shows. 41:05.640 --> 41:07.640 And one of the songs that they play. 41:07.640 --> 41:11.640 I forget exactly who show we're going to drop in on, but it will be announced. 41:11.640 --> 41:12.640 Listen to this. 41:12.640 --> 41:18.640 And of course, if you want to subscribe to the show, you can find all of that at music.podshow.com at the PodSafe Music Network. 41:28.640 --> 41:34.640 Music. 41:34.640 --> 41:39.640 Hey, it's Marcus and we are back to present actually my clip for this episode of Rewind. 41:39.640 --> 41:42.640 This is the scenes scene portion of the show. 41:42.640 --> 41:48.640 And today I'm going to feature an artist out of New York City named Queen V. 41:48.640 --> 41:51.640 And basically here's how you describe Queen V. 41:51.640 --> 41:53.640 It's as if Joan Jett revamped her band. 41:53.640 --> 41:56.640 Got a little more aggressive with her vocals. 41:56.640 --> 42:01.640 Abtained an even tougher attitude and took on the militant lyrical style of Pat Benetar. 42:01.640 --> 42:06.640 And you mix that up with some funk, swish it around and some pure rock guitar licks, 42:06.640 --> 42:11.640 a dash of punchy drum tracks, and you've got Queen V. 42:11.640 --> 42:16.640 So now you've heard the bio and it's time to hear the rock of Queen V. 42:18.750 --> 44:41.250 [ Music ] 44:48.750 --> 46:18.750 [ Music ] 46:21.320 --> 46:28.320 My goodness, checks with attitude, Queen V, love it from the pod show, music rewind, find that a music dot pod show dot com. 46:28.320 --> 46:33.320 It may even be a pod show music rewind dot com, well I got to check that. 46:33.320 --> 46:39.320 Pretty cool, it's an enhanced podcast as well, I just noticed because Megaseg recognizes that and the minute I started it, 46:39.320 --> 46:45.320 I popped a Queen V, a little picture there and a link and this is a great way to discover music man. 46:45.320 --> 46:52.320 There's no easier way for me as a podcaster, I spend lots of time on what we call PMN pods and music network, 46:52.320 --> 46:58.320 scouting around listening to new submission stuff that's coming in, and of course checking out what other podcasters are playing. 46:58.320 --> 47:04.320 Because that really is the validation, you know, once there's a pod cache you like and you've heard some songs on that you'd like, 47:04.320 --> 47:10.320 you just listen, you know, subscribe to the show, listen to it, and you'll eventually discover something that you really like. 47:10.320 --> 47:19.320 It's a kick and ass, I really enjoy that last night. It's not all hard rock and stuff, by the way, it's a really nice mix and thanks to all the, 47:19.320 --> 47:24.320 all the pod showers who are part of that show, really digging it. 47:24.320 --> 47:30.320 So I'm going to scurry off to the office, as I said, I had the epiphany, and I think it was the, was it, 47:30.320 --> 47:36.320 yesterday, the day before someone asked me about the, the secretive audition that I've been talking about, 47:36.320 --> 47:42.320 I actually have to correct that. It's an audition, not an audition, but an audition. 47:42.320 --> 47:47.320 And we will be talking about that in the source codes to come. 47:47.320 --> 47:54.320 Tomorrow, of course, will be Friday. I'd really love it if you got anything that is going to be really up tempo and, 47:54.320 --> 47:58.320 and fun and wacky and, you know, anything you got, send it off to me. 47:58.320 --> 48:05.320 Be happy to share that with everybody because we're going to build a little party because it will mean my last show before I go back home. 48:05.320 --> 48:09.320 I see the girls, it's going to be a lot of fun. 48:09.320 --> 48:15.320 And, yeah, I think that's it. Let me see if there's a, let me just check my list here. 48:15.320 --> 48:20.320 We did a Pita, Wilma, stupid Al Roker, wash, yep. 48:20.320 --> 48:25.320 Oh, everything, the whites are full, I'm just waiting for the dark stuff to finish. Oh, yeah, toilet paper. 48:25.320 --> 48:28.320 Got to steal that from the office. 48:28.320 --> 48:31.320 Shoot, we did it. Perfect. 48:31.320 --> 48:33.320 It's amazing, everybody. 48:33.320 --> 48:38.320 DailySourceco.com is where you can find the latest show and where you can subscribe to the feed. 48:38.320 --> 48:43.320 You, of course, you can also do that through iTunes, free download from macropho windows, 48:43.320 --> 48:47.320 and send me feedback. If you want, add them at curry.com. 48:47.320 --> 48:51.320 Everybody, I'll see you tomorrow for the thank God, it's Friday. 48:51.320 --> 48:53.320 I did it. 48:53.320 --> 48:57.320 Another pod show podcast, stick it in your ear.