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Delta Sierra Charley, scrunch
grunch, 2-8-0.

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With $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Transmitters?

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Then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't need nuss.

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Thinking turns me in.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the shunt.

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Fantastic.

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It's Adam Curry.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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Welcome.

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Man, my mixer is all scrunchy.

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Hold on, there we go.

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Okay, no more cracks.

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Crackling.

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Hey, welcome to Seattle,
Washington.

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I'm here at the Western Hotel.

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It is...

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It's Tuesday, the 15th of
November, 2005.

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And it is high noon.

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I had a very short night and a
very busy morning.

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And I have about an hour before
I have to go to the airport to
fly back to San Francisco.

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Whether a willing, of course, if
there's one thing I hate about
Seattle, it's the ground fog.

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And not just Seattle, but also
San Francisco.

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Yeah, I think the on-time
chances of a flight is like 20%
or something.

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So hopefully I'll get out of my
3-20 flight, 3-21.

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So let me bring you up to speed.

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Apologies about lack of a source
code yesterday, but since I've
done two over the week,

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I've figured you'd have enough
to listen to and a lot of people
like to catch up

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and sometimes it's hard if
you're doing seven days a week.

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Witness Dawn and Drew, I've
heard their listeners talk about
that, but actually they do
listen every single one.

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So, let me see what I'm going to
say.

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Alright, so I didn't do a show
yesterday because I wanted to
have some time in the office to
hang out with everybody

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and it's been a couple of weeks
since I was gone and check up on
stuff and look over everybody's
shoulder

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and be obnoxious as usual.

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Rushed off to the airport with
the Pod Pamp, Aaron Bersel, to
Seattle, got in last night.

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This is a brand new hotel, by
the way.

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This, this Western, I think I'm
on the, was the 14th floor.

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I think about floor 20, they're
probably still completing it.

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They're still putting inside
walk out front and it's funny
because the room has almost
everything,

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but the coffee machine, I don't
even know if the room has been
used yet, the coffee machine,
the coffee maker,

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not a stencil, was, it still had
the original wire ties, the
cable ties on the electric lead,

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so it wasn't plugged in, so it
seems like it hasn't been used
at all.

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And the reason for being here,
as I think I told you in a
previous show, is to meet with,

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or actually to present in front
of 300 brand managers and media
buyers of the Johnson & Johnson
company,

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which is just unbelievably huge.

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Let me see, I think I actually
have a list of the stuff that
these guys make.

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I had no idea some of this
stuff, I got, this is going to
be a Gmail show, by the way.

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Oops, tab, I need my caps locked
there.

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Since I really didn't have any
time to prep, we'll just go
through some Gmail and play some
stuff

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that I have collected throughout
the day.

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Let me see, I'm looking for the
products.

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I just did something really
cool, by the way.

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I needed to get Patricia's
passport, a copy of her
passport, to send off to a
lawyer in the Netherlands.

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And, you know, I don't think
she's ever done any scanning,
here's the J&J products.

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I don't think she's ever done
any scanning on the computer at
home at the cottage.

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So what I did is I have a VNC,
watch that, so I have my
airports set up at home,

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so I could basically SSH into
the iMac at the cottage.

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Then I set up, because you have
to kind of direct the ports on
the router,

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so that it knows which machine
to talk to for certain protocols
or basically for all protocols.

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And then I fired up VNC, then on
this end, here in Seattle, I
used chicken of VNC, opened up,

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so I could see the machine
there, I could control it,
opened up another terminal
window on that machine,

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on the local network, and SSH
into the desktop machine that
Patricia's on,

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as her, of course, and then
fired up VNC again.

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So I was actually able to create
the entire scan and email the
result to me,

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while sitting here, controlling
her computer.

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The only thing she had to do was
actually put the passport on the
top of the scanner,

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or the absolute amazing.

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Okay, here we go.

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Johnson, Johnson products.

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Of course, Johnson, baby care
products, Nutrigina, OB, stay
free, care free, bandaid,

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adhesive managers, KY, monitor
stat, Tylenol, motrin, pepsid,

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ammonium, malanta, splenda,
benacol, lactate, all kinds of
shit for your gastronomic

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issues.

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And then they have a huge
pharmaceuticals division.

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I don't recognize any of these
luckily, but they have something
for a hyperactivity disorder,

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migraines, hormonal
contraceptive, rheumatoid
arthritis, and Crohn's disease,
anti-anemic

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with indications for oncology,
HIV, just like cancer and AIDS
drugs.

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And then they have active U-life
scan, cordus, ethan,

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active U, by the way, is already
working on a plan.

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They've got a podcast coming
out, which is completely
underwritten by active U, two
girls.

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You know what?

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That'll be kind of cool.

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I'll play that for you here.

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Heather and John L.

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The show isn't available yet,
but they've done their, they're
what I call imaging,

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they're all kind of their sound
effects and stuff.

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They've got all that done.

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And these are two girls that
were recruited specifically for
the show, which is kind

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of interesting.

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And they cut a promo for me to
play at this Johnson and Johnson
hold down.

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So imagine me, on stage, I'm
like a little Steve Jobs.

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As Madge would say, I had my
pants pulled up to my vagina.

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And then I played.

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Eating Johnson and Johnson, how
y'all doing there in Seattle,

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bet you drink lots of really
strong coffee right now.

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This is Heather and Janelle and
New York.

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So how's it going at your big
global media summit?

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Just how global, isn't anyway.

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Yeah, is Antartica there?

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Is Bali there?

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I hear Adam Curry, the pod
father is there.

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Well, he's sort of global and
pretty hot, well for an older
guy.

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Okay.

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Not to get too much time away
from your important PowerPoint
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lunches.

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That's acuvew.com.

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That's called a call to action.

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We'll be talking about lots of
important stuff.

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Boys, clothes, music.

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Yeah.

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And all guys.

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Boys.

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Talk about some old guy.

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Do you really care if they
listen?

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They are not.

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Our target market.

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True.

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Then tell your kids.

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Yeah.

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Tell your kids to tune in.

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Download.acvew.com.

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That's called viral marketing.

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Okay.

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No back to your regularly
scheduled conference.

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Yeah.

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See ya.

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So you can imagine I got, I got
some laughs with that and some
other stuff.

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It was great.

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It was, it was unfortunate
because Judy McGrath, who is the
president CEO of MTV Networks,

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also presented this conference.

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She did it yesterday.

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She did the keynote.

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And I had the keynote this
morning.

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She wasn't there.

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But I did hook up with Mark
Rosenthall who, of course, ran
MTV Networks for a number of
years.

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And he's now the chairman and
CEO of Interpublic.

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So I got to tell ya.

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Whole bunch of people who were
really, really interested and
excited about, particularly

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about the creativity of what can
be done here.

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So I was very, very bullish on
that.

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It was great.

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So I was done.

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And last question, you know,
like 50 minute, 500, 50 minutes
into the, into this.

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So once I said, what about
subliminal advertising?

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Oh man.

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I ripped into them.

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That was so cool.

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I did the wholesale thing with
the burping.

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It was, it was, it was, it was
really, it was a lot of fun.

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So even though I usually hate
doing things like this, this one
worked out okay.

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Hey, yes, my favorite song of
the day.

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Candy Butchers.

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What to do with Michael?

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[ Music ]

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It just needs time to heal.

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Well, that's right.

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He just needs time to heal.

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Okay, I love this song.

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Candy Butcher is what to do with
Michael from Hang on Mike.

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Pot say, although not yet, on
the Pot say, the music network.

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I do have permission to play it.

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I got a really nice email from
from some folks who work with
the

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band.

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And working on getting that on
the Pot say music network.

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And cheese Louise.

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There is Michael Butler is now,
you know, rock and old geek.

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The rock and old geek show is
now responsible for a lot of
what's coming into the Pot say
music network.

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This guy.

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He just signed up an epita
record.

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I think which includes Merrill,
Merrill,

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Haggard and dude is just he's
going to send me a whole list.

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Actually, he did send me a list,
but I haven't.

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Processed yet.

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I want to tell you about some of
the great artists that are
coming into the Pot say music
network.

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Some established names.

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And it's great, you know,
because as long as they own
their masters,

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they can decide if they want to,
you know,

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give up the one time or wave any
fees for the right for
podcasters to play their tombs.

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You know, it's great.

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So you can get that Candy
Butcher song off of iTunes.

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The whole album is really great.

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Really is.

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Speaking of that Matthew evil,
you know,

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I've played his top down driving
around song.

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There's a drive away, I think it
is.

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And a couple of times on the
show.

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And he sent me his new CD.

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And he said, you know, or he
sent me a CD.

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So I'm really looking for some
thoughts on what the next single
should be.

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You know, what, what should I
start promoting?

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So I said, no, I'd have it.

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I have a listen and then he
emailed me like half an hour
later.

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And he said, I can't believe I'm
taking CD track advice from a
guy who

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he's in a bottle at 5,000 feet.

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And you guys really like that.

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That's pretty interesting.

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I didn't expect you would hold
on to have a note here about the
Candy Butcher.

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Let me see what this is one
second.

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Hey Adam, real quick note on the
Candy Butcher.

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I did the same thing.

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I heard a one accident hash,
loved him.

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Turn around went to iTunes,
bought the album.

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And then when preparing for my
next show,

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one of the pot safe music
network and looked for them.

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Couldn't find them.

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So he emailed CC and caught him
right before he left for the
expo.

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And he said that they were not
on the PMN yet.

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And he encouraged me to email
them.

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Let them know that I had heard
them on accident hash.

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Try to convince in this
podcasting thing.

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Really is working that it really
will give them exposure.

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So just wanted to share that.

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So maybe you can pass on the
word to your listeners.

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That we need to do that for all
these artists.

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Let them know that we're hearing
them on podcasting.

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Let them know that it does work.

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It will increase our record
sales.

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And this is the way to go.

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So I just wanted to share that
with you real quick.

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Thank you very much.

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Bye bye.

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Yo.

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That's PD love from Love House
radio.

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Cool, dude.

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Thank you very much.

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We got to keep moving him
because he is a working.

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Oh, this is another thing I
received through through Gmail.

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I love this one.

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This is so great.

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Check this out.

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Hey Adam.

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This is Eric Skip from the
Glitchcast,

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where I feature great
independent artists

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and encourage them to bring
their music to the pot safe
music network.

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I was listening to commercial
radio

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to get a feel for what our
competition is doing.

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And I heard something that I
think you just have to hear
yourself.

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I think you might recognize the
voice.

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Tonight we've got a very
special.

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Long distance dedication.

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Going out from the radio
industry to one Mr. Adam Curry.

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It reads.

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Dear Adam, we know it's been a
long time since we talked.

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But there's just a few things we
wanted to get off our chest.

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We've heard what you're doing.

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And frankly, we just don't get
it.

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Who the heck are these artists
you're playing?

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We hear they're not even paying
you to play their songs.

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Second, we really wish you'd cut
out all the cussing

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and blathering on about your
life.

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It gives our DJ's ideas and
they've got songs to play.

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Listen Adam, we'll cut you a
deal.

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If you come back to us and bring
your listeners,

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we'll loosen up the rules a
little bit.

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Love.

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Commercial radio.

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Well, I tell you what commercial
radio.

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I don't think Adam's coming
back.

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But here's that long distance
dedication anyway.

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This is Bruce Cox,

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with what the fuck's a podcast.

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[ Music ]

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Come here.

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Some of the best independent
music on the pop-sake music
network.

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The glitchcast.

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GlitchNYC.com slash glitchcast.

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I love it when everyone starts
working together.

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I think I got the complete music
track from cruise box to do
that.

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So I'm just going to run through
some Gmail stuff.

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All this is so good.

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You guys have been sending
amazing stuff from TQ White.

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The second two minutes about
DRM,

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the language of the RIA and the
characteristics of a good file
format.

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Okay.

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I'll bite.

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Let's see what he's got going
on.

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Two minutes.

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That's worth the investment.

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My name is TQ White.

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I run a weblog called just
kidding.com.

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And I'm a big fan of your stuff.

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Thank you.

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This morning I was listening to
your discussion of the audible
DRM announcement.

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And you said something that for
the first time I can remember,

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jolted my conceptual consistency
with your viewpoint.

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I know that as an
unreconstructed hippie a few
years older than you,

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we share a lot of concepts and
shall we say practices.

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It came when you were
considering the goods and bads
of digital rights management.

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You said that something to the
extent that DRM was disliked

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because it prevented people from
stealing music.

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Though I totally understand that
you weren't making any point
about that,

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I want to caution you here.

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I don't believe it's stealing.

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Lots of people don't think it's
stealing.

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I'm opposed to digital rights
management because it prevents
information from flowing freely.

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I love the MP3 because it can be
universally accepted and used.

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I can receive, send, share, use.

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The information contained in
them without restriction.

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I won't bore you with a long
rant about my political theory
against intellectual property,

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but there are lots of people out
there that don't believe it's
stealing to share music.

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That said, I like you, lot of
musicians, programmers, writers,
and all the other information
producers

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to be rewarded.

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I just don't want to be coerced
with either technical or legal
means.

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I pirate everything and pay for
the stuff that I like and use.

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So what's this mean to you?

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Don't join the RIA in using the
language of crime to refer to
the issues involved in DRM.

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Don't accuse me of theft.

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Though I personally don't
believe that it can be made to
work with anything less freely
usable than an MP3,

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I could get behind a data format
that supported additional
features, tracking and so on,

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including the built-in ability
for me to easily choose to send
money to the author.

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Formats like audibles.AA that
include digital right
restriction features will never
be played on my computer ever,

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and I don't believe that they'll
succeed in the big picture.

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Anyway, keep up the good work.

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I think you're doing a great
job.

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Best regards.

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TQ White.

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Hey, TQ, that's great.

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You hear my fan kicking out on
the, oh, that was your fan on
your power book.

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Wow, that was a mind-fuck.

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Okay, so that's very
interesting.

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And I really appreciate the fact
that you pointed out that you
would be open to talking about a
file format

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that allows some reporting.

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Okay, that's good.

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I had a mini epiphany last
night, well here in the hotel.

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And I was thinking, now, because
we can still kind of mess around
with the pod safe music network
before it gets, you know,

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too big and too many people are
in there and you can't really
reverse engineer anything.

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What if we gave the option?

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So the pod safe music network,
if you register as a pod cast,
you can actually download the
full MP3 tracks and then play
the money pod cast.

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As a listener, you can listen to
any song in the pod safe music
network right from your computer
by clicking on the on little
play button.

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So what if we enabled the pod
safe music network so that the
artists could enable a track to
be purchased?

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Which, and the simplicity of
this really really hit me right
between the years last night.

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First of all, it's real easy to
create, you know, a transaction
e-commerce engine like that is
easy.

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So you pay money.

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I'm thinking 50 cents, right?

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Let's undercut iTunes just to
make the experiment interesting.

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And then any artist who's
willing to participate in the
experiment could just check a
box next to a track that they
would like to make purchaseable.

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So what that means is as a
listener, you would download
essentially the same track that
the pod cast or downloads and
gets for free.

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But of course, it's trade off
because the pod cast or plays it
on his or her pod cast.

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And then you pay your 50 cents
and that goes to the artist.

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And it's a clear, clean MP3
file.

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I think that this would be a
really interesting experiment
because if it's really true that
we pay for the stuff we like and
we're not thieves.

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And of course, I'm not a thief.

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So I think I'm much closer to
you, TQ in your philosophy than
you might imagine.

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Then we should probably be able
to make some good money for
these artists.

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As long as you make it really
simple because I think that's
the beauty of iTunes is it's
dadadly simple.

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And they even keep your credit
card information so you can
purchase at will, which is
great.

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And there's a 50 cents, you
know, it's a pain in the ass to
pull it out your credit cards.

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Maybe just register once and
then you couldn't buy any track
you want.

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And our success will prove if
it's worth it or not because
we'll know how many times
something is played.

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We can see sales results, the
artists will have all this
information and they can then
base their future purchasing
habits based upon that wouldn't
be interesting.

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Wouldn't it be really, really
interesting if it turned out
that sales were astronomical
within our little world, of
course.

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We don't have JLo's yet, but
that's soon to come because
these podcasts are
proliferating.

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There's a lot of propagation of
cool tunes out there.

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Wouldn't that be really
interesting? Wouldn't that just
break a whole bunch of business
models?

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It could break DRM.

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So maybe we say the only DRM we
believe in is don't rob
musicians.

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That's probably a good one. I
want to try that out.

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I think it will work. I, you
know what? My belief in humanity
tells me it's going to work.

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Hey Adam says Chris Copeland.

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At first I bulked at the
enormity of the download for
DSC279.

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At first it was the pure size
101 megabytes.

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Yeah, then the bit rate, 192K
that had me thinking you would
flubbed it and send it out at
higher than need be.

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Well, I'll be honest with you
Chris. Yeah, I did flub it.

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It was my mistake, but I noticed
it because I was like, wow, this
upload is taking a long time.

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And that's 100 megs. What's
that? That makes no sense.

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But I was already well committed
in halfway through it, so I
figured out whatever.

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In fact, I actually thought
listening to the, to the file
that maybe no one want to listen
to it.

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But I felt it would probably be
a good idea or it wasn't bad
that it was uploaded at such a
high bit rate

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because you'd get better audio
than at a lower bit rate, of
course.

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The audio was already quite, you
know, crappy with basically the
intercom system in the plane.

23:31.000 --> 23:33.000
So Chris Copeland said, I was
wrong.

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With the audio pipe through my
cars, JBLs, I felt like I was
right there with you in the
plane.

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The rumble of the engine caused
my interior to vibrate and me
with it.

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Wow, that's hot.

23:43.000 --> 23:49.000
The theater drew me away from
the daily traffic to a plane
over California as it made its
way.

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The higher bit rate was worth it
to have a full range of audio
and be able to hear the
conversation,

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the radio chatter and almost
feel the turbulence right along
with you guys.

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Thank you for taking me for the
ride, Chris Copeland.

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Very cool, dude.

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That's excellent.

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Thank you.

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Some more feedback on that.

24:02.000 --> 24:05.000
Damn you, Adam, says Tom
Martinek.

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There I was sitting in traffic
thinking,

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bad, I had to pee.

24:10.000 --> 24:12.000
And you start talking about
needed to go like a racer horse.

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Then you get a bottle and start
letting loose,

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listening to you,

24:16.000 --> 24:21.000
get some much needed relief was
maddening as I sat there on my
car with my legs crossed.

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Have you ever tried to drive
with your legs crossed?

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It's not easy.

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Damn you.

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Damn you to hell.

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And have a nice day.

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Says Tom.

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Fantastic.

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Let me see.

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Enjoyed the plane.

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I'm telling you this, it was
really quite amazing to see how
many people really enjoyed it.

24:44.000 --> 24:46.000
He felt like I was up there
flying with you.

24:46.000 --> 24:49.000
He's no more peeing on DSC, says
Cade.

24:49.000 --> 24:51.000
When you describe your peeing
experience,

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I suddenly had to go real bad.

24:53.000 --> 24:56.000
I couldn't imagine you having to
cut the flow in the middle of
either.

24:56.000 --> 24:57.000
Now that was messed up.

24:57.000 --> 24:58.000
Let me tell you.

24:58.000 --> 24:59.000
That was no fun.

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Audio feedback.

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Okay.

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Let's, if it's too long or for
the,

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this is actually the way that I,

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that I go through promos and
feedback is by,

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basically listening to him and
if they bore me,

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then they go on the,

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Yeah.

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And this is Angie B.

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I love spirals.

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We're on the Podsafe Music
Network.

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I've ever wanted to give you
some feedback regarding the
whole BMI

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ASCAP issue,

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which you just brought up again
recently this weekend.

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We're an indie band that was
signed to a small label for the
past 15 years.

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We sold a little over 50,000
CDs.

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So while we're not totally
unknown,

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we're by no means a major label
artist.

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In fact, we recently began our
own label

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and we just put out a first self
release CD this month.

25:43.000 --> 25:47.000
Now I've been hearing about the
Creative Commons copyright quite
a bit over the past few years.

25:47.000 --> 25:50.000
And I wondered if we should go
that route with our new music.

25:50.000 --> 25:54.000
But the thing is that the BMI
actually does collect and send
us money.

25:54.000 --> 25:57.000
Of course, radio play for
smaller bands.

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It doesn't really bring in any
significant money.

25:59.000 --> 26:04.000
But if you're lucky enough to
land placement in a popular TV
show or commercial,

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then BMI or ASCAP can bring in
hundreds of dollars per check,

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which is really great for
smaller bands.

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I noticed recently that pump
audio, one of the companies we
worked with,

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has been advertising on Garage
Band.

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And Garage Band is hooking up
independent bands with Creative
Commons.

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So I'm assuming that a lot of
independent artists working with
Creative Commons

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are now starting to license
their music on TV.

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So my question to you is,

26:34.000 --> 26:37.000
how can bands that are in a
position to make a little bit of
money like this?

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Really afford to give up working
with BMI or ASCAP.

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I mean Creative Commons doesn't
collect money, period.

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I mean, I honestly feel stuck
between a rock and a hard place
right now.

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On the one hand, being a smaller
band, we really need the support
of podcasters.

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We're more than any major label
band does.

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But on the other hand, we need
to try to collect any money that
comes our way.

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Even if it is through BMI,
because as you said, creative
people,

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such as bands and podcasters
really kind of need to quit
their day jobs,

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so we can continue to be more
creative.

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Just to try to help out in this
dilemma,

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I decided last week to update
our website to include an
official statement about
podcasting,

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along with the free downloads
that we provide.

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So there's a public record of
our permission.

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Maybe other bands listen to your
show should consider doing
something like that too.

27:28.000 --> 27:31.000
And by the way, our website is
lovesparals.com.

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We've got the free MP3s I
mentioned, as well as our
podcast.

27:35.000 --> 27:36.000
Chillin' with love spirals.

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So come check us out if you
haven't already.

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Okay.

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First of all, you got a hell of
a sexy voice.

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Let me check you out on the
website.

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Love spirals.com.

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Let me see loading pictures.

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Oh, he's so cute.

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I got to twist my head all the
way to the right to see you.

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He he.

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All right.

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So of course, you confuse me
with a lawyer, which is
unfortunate.

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I have actually looked into
this.

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And it's a lot simpler than
you'd think.

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So ask cap and BMI.

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They are collection agencies.

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And they collect money from more
than just the broadcast industry
by the way.

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They collected from bars, from
elevators, hotels, and even from
businesses.

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If you have a business and let's
say you have a mechanic shop, a
garage.

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And you have the radio on.

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You will eventually get a visit
from Ask Cap and or BMI.

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I'm not quite sure who drops by.

28:36.000 --> 28:38.000
Maybe they both drop by.

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And they'll start asking you
about who you listen to.

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How often, how many people
listen to it.

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And you have to pay money for
that.

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So the groovy thing is you own
all of your stuff.

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I presume.

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So it's all yours.

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So you can license this.

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Anyway, you want to anybody in
any manner.

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So signing up with Ask Cap BMI
is not a license.

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That is a, it's basically, you
copyright your work with the US
copyright office.

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All that information is on the
BMI and Ask Cap websites, by the
way.

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I think costs 35 bucks and
doesn't matter.

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You can send like 10 tracks at
once and it only costs 35
dollars.

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And you copyright it.

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So that is your work.

29:24.000 --> 29:27.000
And then you sign up with Ask
Cap BMI.

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I don't think, one of them
doesn't have a fee, I think.

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But so anyway, you sign up.

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And then you're in their
database.

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And whenever your name pops up
for an air play either on radio
or TV or, you know,

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and then of course they have
these huge complicated
structures.

29:43.000 --> 29:46.000
Well, we're figuring that if you
were played three times on a
radio station,

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you might have hit an elevator
once or something.

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I don't know how they do it.

29:49.000 --> 29:50.000
It's all mumbo, jumbo.

29:50.000 --> 29:52.000
They try to explain it.

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They will then send you a check.

29:54.000 --> 29:59.000
So when you register with the
pod safe music network at
music.podshow.com,

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you're basically handing out a
different license to a different
set of people.

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The podcasters, essentially by
clicking OK, sign that agreement
and agree to,

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to the terms as set out in, in
the terms at the PMN.

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So that doesn't mean, and in
fact,

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it states there that it's yours
and that no performance license
or royalty or anything

30:23.000 --> 30:25.000
will have to be paid.

30:25.000 --> 30:29.000
And that's a license only to
those people who are a member of
the pod safe music network.

30:29.000 --> 30:30.000
It's really simple.

30:30.000 --> 30:34.000
So you could license it anyway
you want with any terms you want
to anybody.

30:34.000 --> 30:38.000
Now, as it, I'm not, again, I'm
not a lawyer,

30:38.000 --> 30:41.000
and you should really talk to
Larry Lessick about the creative
common stuff.

30:41.000 --> 30:45.000
But I'm pretty sure that if you
put it up under creative
commons,

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that you can still license it to
ask happened BMI.

30:49.000 --> 30:50.000
It shouldn't be a problem.

30:50.000 --> 30:54.000
In fact, I encourage that
because if your music is used in
that manner,

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in a broadcast or public
performance, then of course you
should get compensated.

30:59.000 --> 31:06.000
Now, when it comes to TV shows,
that's a little different
because that's a synchronization
fee or a sync right.

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And I think you can basically
call the shots on that.

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Because they will have to
contact you.

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They would use it for a
commercial.

31:17.000 --> 31:22.000
And again, I'm not a lawyer, so
I could have this wrong.

31:22.000 --> 31:28.000
But I think that, you know,
look, the basis of everything is
that it's your stuff.

31:28.000 --> 31:33.000
And if you want to license it to
me for free and to ABC for
$10,000,

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that's up to you.

31:34.000 --> 31:35.000
That is up to you.

31:35.000 --> 31:37.000
And I encourage it.

31:37.000 --> 31:40.000
And I'm really, really happy you
sent me that email.

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I really appreciate it.

31:41.000 --> 31:49.000
You guys would like to try out
the experiment with the free and
clear MP3 for purchase.

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Wouldn't that be interesting?

31:51.000 --> 31:54.000
Gosh, I really want to check
that out.

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Okay, I think I'm about ready
for some more songs.

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Let me just go through some more
Gmail here.

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See what I can find.

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Hi, good people of Pod Show.

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Man, I'm just looking for some,
for some action here.

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I tag everything with the, not
yet another comment about what
is about the expo

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and Pod Safe Music from James B.

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Okay, James B, I'll bite.

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Let's see what you got cooking
here.

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I have to look it up,
transferring data.

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Just playing quick time.

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I ask this is James from
JamesB.com producer of
Navalcast.

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Oh, of course.

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I'm just getting home from the
portable media expo and wanted
to send you a comment.

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The expo was great.

32:39.000 --> 32:41.000
My wife and I enjoyed it very
much.

32:41.000 --> 32:45.000
My wife who is an elementary
school teacher commented that
she had never been to a
conference,

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where there was a line to the
men's restroom, but not to the
women's.

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Hopefully next year there's
enough women podcasters that
they have to stand in line as
well.

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It's unfortunate that I didn't
get to meet you, but I met a lot
of friendly fellow podcasters.

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Regarding the recent talk about
Pod Safe Music, one of the
messages I took away from the
conference,

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is an understanding that there's
no good way to play R.I.W.A.
licensed music.

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With that in mind, I too am
changing my show format to be
entirely pod safe.

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My past episodes have featured
clips of licensed music to
punctuate the stories I tell.

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I'll be editing them to make my
past episodes pod safe.

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I commend you and PW for your
move to pod safe music and
encourage other podcasters to do
the same.

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In addition, like PW indicated
in his most recent digital
flotsom,

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I am going to do my part to
support pod safe artists by only
buying music from those that
support pod safe music.

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Why spend our time and money on
an industry that is held bent on
suing their customers?

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When we have talented artists
that are willing to work with
us, thanks talk to you later.

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Dude, thank you very much.

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While you were talking, I was
going into my playlist here at
the pod safe music network,

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where I was, for instance, I was
listening to pod show music
rewind episode number eight from
the pool side at the expo.

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It was funny.

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Guys, they're a riot man.

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Brother love dropping by, big
mayhem.

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It just sounded so good.

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You know, I've learned and we
did a lot of stuff at the expo.

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We had mad running around, Dawn
and Drew did at least one show,

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a magic, a million shows, I did
a show, a Michael Butler did a
show,

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almost every one of the pod safe
music network did something,

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if not together, then they did
it individually.

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And I've learned that even
though the content sometimes,

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certainly the mad stuff was a
bit over the top to say the
least,

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but just looking at it, you kind
of did get the feeling,

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oh man, I wish I could be there,
and I heard a lot of that from
people,

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so that to me usually means that
we did a good job at making some
of the expo come alive

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of those pretty cool.

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Okay, so here's the song that I
heard on the pod safe music
network,

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where the hell would it go?

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Oh, don't you hate it when that
happens?

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I'm here like, I'm staring at my
desktop and can't find it.

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Okay, let's go window, no tools,
downloads.

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No, it should, I could just
click open, there we go.

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This is, okay, this is from
Epita Records, I guess,

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so this is one of the one of
those cool bands that have been
added to the PMN.

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This is Danger Doom and Mint's
Meat.

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[ Music ]

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anyway,

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you don't get a lot of wrap
hip-hop,

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rmb from the pod safe music
network

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that I really like about this.

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Yeah,

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and I keep the hand擊,

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it sounds good,

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sound in it really,

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but I like it.

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Homers.podshow.com

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is where you can upload your
promo to me,

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feedback,

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you can still probably send
through Gmail.

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You can also put it up there.
It's really cool because I've
set it up as a as a

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You know the RSS feed is a pod
cast

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So I can just basically open up.
I'm using iTunes for that open
that up, but you know

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Oh geez, I must have at least

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Oh, it looks like I have 30 or
40 different promos in there. So
we listen to a couple of them
just to see

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Yeah, and and of course this the
same rules apply if I get bored
or if it sucks

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Then I'll just go move on to the
next one

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That's a counterpoint. It's a
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I like it. I like it. I would
definitely check that one out.
Okay

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Onto the next one here

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Oh, that's interesting. Oh, of
course. It's a podcast. I mean,
why would it play the next
episode automatically?

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Oh, sorry. That's the same one.
Here we go. Yeah, I'd cast that
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now another one from the pod
safe music network

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Which I got from pod show
rewind. Graining. I think this
was uh, track the CC Chapman
shows.

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Love this song. Sex in the box
on your dating source good.

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[ Music ]

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I would, I would. I would, real
life

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If I could, I would, real life

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I wonder it, there's probably a
lot of the Johnson Johnson
people probably listen to this
show because now they're like,
oh, I don't want a second

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Let me go check out what that
guy's talking about and since
I'm here in Seattle

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I mean you can't be in Seattle
even if it's just for 18 hours
and not play a promo about a
Seattle podcast

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No, that would be a travesty no,
no, no, no

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Cool, I'm going to subscribe to
that. I'll be great for the
plane ride home. I love the jazz

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So in closing today email from
Heather Bowler from
initiative.com

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A funny thing happened on the
way to the forum. I went to a
presentation this morning by
someone who looked remarkably
like a kind gentleman

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Who got some hotel staff jumping
to let me back in my room last
night

46:22.620 --> 46:27.620
Many thanks had no idea who you
are, but now I do presentation
was great

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I publish a quarterly magazine
for advertiser clients and we're
writing a feature on podcasting
in the next issue

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If I send you our details could
be interview you regards Heather
Bowler will of course

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Heather now that may have
sounded a little bit weird

46:39.620 --> 46:43.620
But this was when I we were
checking in last night around
quarter to ten

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And she'd locked herself out of
a room and had a credit card,
but it wasn't her credit card

46:47.620 --> 46:51.620
Didn't have her name on it, so
it was but anyway, so I

46:51.620 --> 46:56.620
I told the when the the check in
the desk clerk said anything
else I can do

46:56.620 --> 46:59.620
Yes, please please let this
young lady back in her room

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And so it happened okay

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I'm still using the Heil
microphone by the way. I love
this mic. This is great

47:09.620 --> 47:11.620
It sounds wonderful

47:11.620 --> 47:18.620
Ron heard the switch the mics
switch as well on the Saturday
podcast and he's a real audio
file

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And he said it sounded pretty
damn good too. Yeah, this is
good and someone sent me an
email about the Heil stuff

47:24.620 --> 47:26.620
Let me see I saw that coming
today

47:27.620 --> 47:34.620
Some super star celebrity works
with it. Here we go Nate doer
doer doer

47:34.620 --> 47:40.620
Just catching up on Delta Sierra
Charlie to seven eight heard you
mention it

47:40.620 --> 47:44.620
You got a free Heil sound mic
Bob Heil makes very nice stuff

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Ah Joe Wall Schwartz with Bob
regularly doing promotion of his
mics and gear

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Okay, yeah, there you go. Well,
if it's good for Joe damn it's
good for us wouldn't you say

47:52.620 --> 47:57.620
So again, it's promo dot pod
show dot com please

47:58.620 --> 48:04.620
Feel free you got a register,
but that's not just a email
address and you make up a
password and then you can

48:05.620 --> 48:09.620
Post something about your promo
and if you want you can attach

48:10.620 --> 48:17.620
Or just a post a link in there
which points to an MP3 file and
then it would you will be
guaranteed that I'm going to
hear it

48:17.620 --> 48:23.620
Because it plops into a nice
little playlist in my iTunes,
which is extremely nice now it
would be great if we could

48:23.620 --> 48:28.620
Sign off with our signature
sound which of course

48:31.620 --> 48:33.620
I don't have

48:33.620 --> 48:36.620
Shoot I don't have my pod show
sign off thingy

48:36.620 --> 48:39.620
Ah, that sucks. Okay, we'll do
it this way. Hey everybody

48:39.620 --> 48:44.620
Please save me from people
who've been told what to like
and then like it

48:44.620 --> 48:50.620
In my opinion if you're over six
years of age and you're still
getting your music from the
radio

48:50.620 --> 48:53.620
Something is desperately wrong
with you

48:53.620 --> 49:02.620
I can only hope that somehow MP3
players and file sharing will
destroy FM radio the way they're
destroying record companies

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Then even though the air will
probably never be safe to
breathe again, maybe it will be
safer to listen to