WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.000 Delta's share a Charlie to eight. 00:07.000 --> 00:10.000 Two. 00:10.000 --> 00:15.000 One, two, three. 00:15.000 --> 00:26.000 One, two, three. 00:26.000 --> 00:31.000 A $16 million worth of air in playing strap to my ass. 00:31.000 --> 00:34.000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:34.000 --> 00:37.000 We don't need no sticky and crispy. 00:37.000 --> 00:40.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 00:40.000 --> 00:42.000 Fantastic. It's Adam Curry. 00:42.000 --> 00:44.000 Hey, man. Just free wheeling a little bit, you know? 00:44.000 --> 00:47.000 Hey, I'm back at the cottage everybody. It's Friday. 00:47.000 --> 00:50.000 Didn't want to miss the opportunity to celebrate that with you. 00:50.000 --> 00:53.000 So source code, come and act here. 00:53.000 --> 00:57.000 And let's get into the spirit, Charlie. 00:58.750 --> 03:41.000 [ Music ] 03:41.000 --> 03:51.000 Oh, candy butchers. 03:51.000 --> 03:53.000 That's excellent. 03:53.000 --> 03:55.000 Give me a second chance for Christmas. 03:55.000 --> 03:59.000 Just showed up on the pod save music network along with what to do about Michael. 03:59.000 --> 04:01.000 They have joined. 04:01.000 --> 04:03.000 Welcome, guys. 04:03.000 --> 04:07.000 Hello, everybody. This is the daily source code. 04:07.000 --> 04:11.000 There's no business doing a podcast after having travel. 04:11.000 --> 04:15.000 Transatlantic from San Francisco to London. 04:15.000 --> 04:17.000 There's too much fun. 04:17.000 --> 04:19.000 It's Friday. 04:19.000 --> 04:21.000 What a weather change. 04:21.000 --> 04:23.000 I left it in the 70s. 04:23.000 --> 04:27.000 Beautiful sunshine, very clear skies. 04:27.000 --> 04:31.000 I didn't see a lot of missed this past week that I was on the west coast. 04:31.000 --> 04:33.000 The frost is on the ground. 04:33.000 --> 04:34.000 It was almost. 04:34.000 --> 04:37.000 It was just a little bit of a freezing when we landed. 04:37.000 --> 04:39.000 I don't know. 04:39.000 --> 04:41.000 It just kind of motivated me. 04:41.000 --> 04:44.000 You'll hear me slurin' over my words and tripping it over the place. 04:44.000 --> 04:46.000 I did sleep on the plane. 04:46.000 --> 04:50.000 Once again, another great virgin flight. 04:50.000 --> 04:54.000 I'm paying it through the noseboard and loving it at the same time. 04:54.000 --> 04:56.000 It's an amazing product. 04:56.000 --> 05:00.000 Was it really that simple to make flying that much more enjoyable? 05:00.000 --> 05:06.000 Whatever he did, I think it's really the excellent configuration of the airplane. 05:06.000 --> 05:08.000 Do you hear this microphone? 05:08.000 --> 05:10.000 I don't think I have the high all now. 05:10.000 --> 05:12.000 The one that I want. 05:12.000 --> 05:18.000 I think I have to do some configuration to make it work properly in the cottage set up here. 05:18.000 --> 05:19.000 I know one thing. 05:19.000 --> 05:21.000 It doesn't fit in the stand. 05:21.000 --> 05:27.000 I have a jam through a hole in the top of the podcast complex. 05:27.000 --> 05:29.000 It really does sound like crap. 05:29.000 --> 05:31.000 Maybe I should switch to the other microphone. 05:31.000 --> 05:35.000 I think that's probably going to be better until I figure out how to configure this one. 05:35.000 --> 05:37.000 Okay. 05:37.000 --> 05:44.000 So Thursday, just to keep you up the speed on what's been going on, what we've been thinking about. 05:44.000 --> 05:48.000 I was getting picked up to go to the airport at a quarter to two. 05:48.000 --> 05:51.000 It was, hello. 05:51.000 --> 05:52.000 Hello. 05:52.000 --> 05:53.000 Hey, babe. 05:53.000 --> 05:54.000 Come on in. 05:54.000 --> 05:59.000 I heard a sort of a different sound. 05:59.000 --> 06:00.000 A different sound? 06:00.000 --> 06:02.000 Just like you are in. 06:02.000 --> 06:05.000 Oh, that's why it seemed better. 06:05.000 --> 06:06.000 Yeah. 06:06.000 --> 06:09.000 So that's why I came in, I thought something's wrong. 06:09.000 --> 06:10.000 Wait a minute. 06:10.000 --> 06:11.000 Oh, no, there you go. 06:11.000 --> 06:12.000 Oh, okay. 06:12.000 --> 06:16.000 I was just saying, I was saying, wow, this microphone sounds like shit. 06:16.000 --> 06:18.000 Are you stoned? 06:18.000 --> 06:20.000 No. 06:20.000 --> 06:22.000 Are you out of it? 06:22.000 --> 06:24.000 I mean, you are tired. 06:24.000 --> 06:26.000 Yeah, but I wanted to show. 06:26.000 --> 06:27.000 It's Friday. 06:27.000 --> 06:28.000 We have to celebrate. 06:28.000 --> 06:29.000 It's good to see you. 06:29.000 --> 06:30.000 Tell the listeners. 06:30.000 --> 06:31.000 Put your headphones. 06:31.000 --> 06:34.000 I was asked, no, because I'm going, I have things to do. 06:34.000 --> 06:36.000 Like reading the paper. 06:36.000 --> 06:38.000 Excuse me. 06:38.000 --> 06:39.000 Excuse me. 06:39.000 --> 06:41.000 The deal is reading the paper. 06:41.000 --> 06:42.000 Um, you know. 06:42.000 --> 06:43.000 Did I know what? 06:43.000 --> 06:44.000 Well, um, no. 06:44.000 --> 06:45.000 Have you? 06:45.000 --> 06:46.000 Have you? 06:46.000 --> 06:48.000 Tell the listeners. 06:48.000 --> 06:49.000 But what? 06:49.000 --> 06:51.000 I was asked for the, for the Wizard of Oz. 06:51.000 --> 06:53.000 By Yoke from the end of production? 06:53.000 --> 06:54.000 No, I, I know. 06:54.000 --> 06:55.000 I just started the show. 06:55.000 --> 06:56.000 Mm-hmm. 06:56.000 --> 06:57.000 So, uh, but I wrote it down. 06:57.000 --> 07:00.000 I remember to talk about, well, why don't, now that you're here. 07:00.000 --> 07:01.000 It's a privilege. 07:01.000 --> 07:02.000 I have to say. 07:02.000 --> 07:03.000 Now that you're here, why don't you tell us about it. 07:03.000 --> 07:04.000 Oh, that's it. 07:04.000 --> 07:05.000 Well, well, no, wait a minute. 07:05.000 --> 07:07.000 Now, say, so you were asked by, uh, 07:07.000 --> 07:09.000 Yoke from the end of production. 07:09.000 --> 07:10.000 This guy's huge and theater. 07:10.000 --> 07:11.000 Yeah. 07:11.000 --> 07:13.000 He does all the musicals in, like in New York. 07:13.000 --> 07:15.000 Yes, so when Mama me, you know, he gets the license for that. 07:15.000 --> 07:16.000 And he produces that. 07:16.000 --> 07:18.000 And then I'm sure, you know, he'll do every single way. 07:18.000 --> 07:20.000 You know what, Ron said, I'll get to that in a second. 07:20.000 --> 07:21.000 Yeah. 07:21.000 --> 07:22.000 So they asked you for what? 07:22.000 --> 07:27.000 For one of the, uh, major roles in, in the, in the Wizard of Oz music. 07:27.000 --> 07:28.000 In the Wizard of Oz music. 07:28.000 --> 07:29.000 In the Wizard of Oz. 07:29.000 --> 07:31.000 And I said no. 07:31.000 --> 07:32.000 Well, first you said no. 07:32.000 --> 07:33.000 No, I'm all the way. 07:33.000 --> 07:36.000 Because this is probably in Holland, of course. 07:36.000 --> 07:37.000 It was in Holland. 07:37.000 --> 07:38.000 Would you do it? 07:38.000 --> 07:39.000 Would you do it? 07:39.000 --> 07:42.000 I'm maybe because Christina's in school the whole day. 07:42.000 --> 07:43.000 If it did. 07:43.000 --> 07:44.000 It's seven days. 07:44.000 --> 07:47.000 And so what I would have said, maybe, 07:47.000 --> 07:50.000 you know, let me do it for a month or you know, 07:50.000 --> 07:52.000 cos that, like they do here. 07:52.000 --> 07:57.000 Sometimes Americans come over and they are in the theater in London. 07:57.000 --> 07:59.000 They do that for a month and go back. 07:59.000 --> 08:02.000 And then they can say, I was always on the. 08:02.000 --> 08:03.000 I was a website. 08:03.000 --> 08:04.000 I was a sister. 08:04.000 --> 08:05.000 I was a sister. 08:05.000 --> 08:06.000 Exactly. 08:06.000 --> 08:07.000 See then you're real. 08:07.000 --> 08:09.000 Imagine enriching and enriching and enriching. 08:09.000 --> 08:10.000 Right. 08:10.000 --> 08:12.000 So I thought, you know, but let me ask you a question. 08:12.000 --> 08:13.000 What have been a nice experience? 08:13.000 --> 08:20.680 nice experience and take no offense, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't for Dorothy. So what 08:20.680 --> 08:30.600 are the other roles? No there's also good one. Is that Galinda? So it doesn't 08:30.600 --> 08:37.560 matter it would have been a wonderful experience and we sure. Yeah but you know I'm 08:37.560 --> 08:46.320 all the way here. I'll let them jump out. So you didn't have the headphones on so you 08:46.320 --> 08:56.120 didn't hear me. Okay. But I'm here. I'm here for you. And for me. And for my daughter. And that's it. 08:56.120 --> 09:01.400 So it doesn't matter. You look great babe. Well thank you so much. You know when you're not there 09:01.400 --> 09:07.640 you know always sleep like a log. You're fine with the eye can sleep. So Patricia's saying well 09:07.640 --> 09:13.160 you know I've seen it. I think because of the energy that you produce at night that I have 09:13.160 --> 09:17.960 restless nights. So it's really not good that you're sleeping next to me was basically what you're 09:17.960 --> 09:25.720 saying there. Well of course I love it you know but the moment we fall asleep and you you are very 09:26.280 --> 09:31.640 I mean heavy, heavy, deep sleeper and I'm all very jealous of it. Oh yeah I'm out like I'll 09:31.640 --> 09:36.200 and I go to sleep in three seconds. Yes I'm a light sleeper because I'm a mommy and I want to hear 09:36.200 --> 09:43.320 everything and I want to hear everybody breathe and I think so yeah and what I said to you was 09:43.320 --> 09:54.200 I have an idea that my bed sleeping thing comes from your sleeping thing because I'm always 09:54.200 --> 09:59.240 awake or awake a couple of times. I wake up a couple of times. I think it's because you have 09:59.240 --> 10:05.400 so much energy in your body. There's so much going on in your brains and your brain just keep on going 10:05.400 --> 10:10.600 even if you're asleep I know that. I'll be you have sweat attacks and you have I don't know 10:10.600 --> 10:18.200 what your attack is but I have an idea and maybe somebody who's listening knows all about it 10:18.280 --> 10:23.960 yeah. I feel your energy and it wakes me up. That's what I think. What do you do? 10:23.960 --> 10:27.800 But how come it? Well that's possible. I believe that. I buy it but how come it doesn't wake me out 10:28.520 --> 10:32.200 because I'm just sitting there generating all this energy. Because you're dead tired. No you're 10:32.200 --> 10:37.400 good sleeper. I mean I don't know you're you're deeper than that. But my brain should be resting at night. 10:37.400 --> 10:43.720 It shouldn't be crunching. Yeah you're I think your body is resting but you brains you know I think 10:43.800 --> 10:49.640 they never sleep. They just go over the whole thing in a whole day. Now for you that's a lot. 10:51.960 --> 10:58.440 A lot of things happening in a whole day. Yeah. So yeah. My theory. My brain is at least a doing 10:58.440 --> 11:03.320 something. Yeah. Yeah that might as well be. I'm very happy your brains are doing a lot. 11:03.320 --> 11:12.360 So Patricia who by the way flies in my airplane more than I do is paying a surprise visit to her dad 11:12.360 --> 11:20.440 tomorrow with Christina. Oh, hold on. Did I just lose you? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah it's going to be 11:20.440 --> 11:31.160 big surprise. He wasn't feeling very well. He was 80. He's 80 now and his birthday was last week this week 11:31.160 --> 11:39.400 getting off the week. I mean. And so 80 is quite a lot especially for somebody who has four 11:39.640 --> 11:47.880 bypasses. So he wasn't feeling very well. And so I thought you know I'll uh I just surprise him and 11:49.240 --> 11:55.320 make him happy. You know. Oh yeah. Well don't surprise him too much. Man's had five passes. 11:55.320 --> 11:59.880 Don't come in. Don't make a mishaw. Yeah. I'm going to go out for dinner but he doesn't know we're going 11:59.880 --> 12:04.520 to be there. Christina and I know but make sure he doesn't he doesn't freak out when he sees you. No 12:04.520 --> 12:11.000 he will. No. I'm not that far away but it's still you know it's good it'll be quite a surprise. 12:11.000 --> 12:16.920 I'm not coming from Australia. Australia oh I have some stuff from Australia. Yeah I heard that. 12:17.640 --> 12:21.160 Okay. Look if you can understand here then you have to put the hand. No no I'm going now. 12:21.160 --> 12:29.080 And uh oh. What do you do myself on paper here? Okay baby. Okay honey. Thank you. Okay. 12:29.480 --> 12:38.280 I love you. Bye. Okay so you've got a little update there. What I was going to say before 12:38.280 --> 12:47.720 Patricia came in is that Thursday was all a pod safe music network day and you know getting 12:47.720 --> 12:53.160 development team together because you know well we basically as I said in the last source code 12:53.160 --> 12:58.760 to get the pod safe music network really rolling we got to have you know some dedicated development 12:58.840 --> 13:03.480 on that and which means we we're hiring for that. I think you'll see that show up on 13:05.480 --> 13:11.400 podshow.com. There's a job link. I think there's a job link. Please tell me that's a job link. 13:12.280 --> 13:15.960 That's got to be let me just say maybe even be up there right now. Hold on and you 13:15.960 --> 13:20.120 couldn't get all this information from the show notes as well. And by the way I want to thank 13:20.120 --> 13:28.520 the everyone who's doing the show notes on on the wiki. It's so wonderful. It makes my life 13:28.600 --> 13:32.040 so much easier and I think you I'm because I always check the show notes out and I see 13:32.040 --> 13:39.800 there are also people put comments up there. It's it's really good. It's detailed and you know 13:39.800 --> 13:43.160 sometimes there's little mistakes in there but then the great thing is I can go in and I can 13:43.560 --> 13:49.160 correct it. Let me just see a news about us come on it's got to be something here employment 13:49.160 --> 14:00.680 opportunities. Okay. Wow let me see if web design and developer. Okay. Yeah this is like five or six 14:00.680 --> 14:13.560 openings there. Alrighty. Oh we have a this is this is very cool. So it's starting. Advertisers are 14:13.560 --> 14:20.520 starting to support podcasting. We have a new sponsor on the pod show podcast network. It's 14:21.160 --> 14:25.960 and I was really happy when I heard that they were coming on board because like you know this is 14:25.960 --> 14:33.800 definitely a sponsor I want to talk about in my show. It's EarthLink Internet and if you're I got 14:33.800 --> 14:39.400 to tell you I'm I'm the old guy on the block and I've been you know old school internet I learned 14:40.280 --> 14:48.120 about the internet I had a dial-up connection to what was it panics internet in New York City and 14:48.120 --> 14:54.040 basically you you would you would tell that in and later of course SSH but first you tell that in 14:54.680 --> 15:00.360 and then you have to start a slip connection you know by typing a command to get that going on 15:00.360 --> 15:06.520 on and a unix prompt and then you could start up your TCP stack and then you could you know run 15:06.520 --> 15:11.720 a couple of applications and the one that was really used the most even when I was starting off with 15:11.720 --> 15:18.440 this command line based go for protocol you know this is from the days when I was around and I saw a lot 15:18.440 --> 15:24.760 of ISPs internet service providers spring up in those days and there were some you know some real 15:24.760 --> 15:31.000 core companies that were you know that were really based on the engineering and the roots of the 15:31.000 --> 15:35.480 internet and I've always considered EarthLink to be one of them and prior to their sponsorship 15:35.800 --> 15:42.040 I've always held an EarthLink account I've used them for webmail and I always had a dial-up account 15:42.040 --> 15:48.040 with EarthLink you always had that my back pocket if there's some situation where I just get stuck 15:48.040 --> 15:55.160 you know without any wireless it doesn't happen that much anymore but so the you know they're 15:55.160 --> 16:02.600 reliable you know they've always had that that old school internet type of reliability and 16:02.600 --> 16:09.080 air about them and what they have of course is new school services and as a sponsor you'll be 16:09.080 --> 16:16.680 hearing on the number of pod shows about their phone service they've also have a wireless email 16:16.680 --> 16:24.120 and I just couldn't be happier that I'm able to select cool sponsors for this show that makes it 16:24.120 --> 16:29.560 a hell of a lot easier all right let's get to some Gmail here because I also want to listen to some music 16:29.560 --> 16:38.360 oh yeah um Todd was his Todd Lizer I think it is L-E-I-S-E-R he said up a a frapper map for the daily source 16:38.360 --> 16:46.120 code I've pointed to it from curry.com and we'll definitely have it in the show notes for today 16:46.920 --> 16:52.600 what it is it's if you haven't seen this frappers it's a I really like it it a lot it's kind of a 16:52.680 --> 17:00.200 mashup of google maps and and flicker photos and you couldn't put a little pinpoint on the 17:00.200 --> 17:05.080 google map where you're listening to the show from and you can add a picture in there and you know 17:05.080 --> 17:10.440 some kind of caption the link if you want and so it's at frapper that's like the flicker 17:10.440 --> 17:19.080 spelling F-R-A-P-P-R dot com slash D-S-C listeners so we'll have that in the show notes let me see 17:19.080 --> 17:26.360 there was some audio coming up here oh this was a great one this is from Doug Dyson I read this on my 17:26.360 --> 17:32.760 blackberry when I landed at Heathrow and I actually started to reply to him I thought no no no come on man 17:32.760 --> 17:39.240 let me stupid I can reply to it no you read this to you hey Adam thanks for skipping over my 17:39.240 --> 17:43.560 L-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R radio promo that I worked so hard on the other day so you could 17:43.560 --> 17:49.320 instead play some other totally random feedback clips from your Gmail inbox it must really take 17:49.320 --> 17:54.360 more than passion to podcast as seems podcasting is already at the who you know click stage 17:55.880 --> 18:01.000 you know I gotta tell you that I had increasingly more email is coming that it sounds like this 18:02.200 --> 18:09.480 saying oh you know the mainstream media is taking over it's all ruined and at every single phase of 18:09.480 --> 18:16.600 growth in podcasting I've heard these voices and sometimes are the same but I think they're actually 18:16.600 --> 18:22.200 they're probably in this case even some new ones because it is growing and it's growing rapidly 18:22.840 --> 18:31.560 and people get very protective of something they love and you know if you send me a promo on 18:32.200 --> 18:39.240 let's see when was it the 14th you're pitching and moaning about me and calling me 18:40.920 --> 18:48.600 part of a who you know click you know like five not only three days later I mean come on 18:49.560 --> 18:54.840 man I mean this there's no rhyme or reason to all this I just pick whatever I can get and I play 18:54.840 --> 18:59.480 whatever promo comes my way and since you've pitched a moan about it 19:02.280 --> 19:06.760 will you please make the voters say for our eastern listeners good evening radio audience 19:07.640 --> 19:15.640 good evening here and now for our western listeners say good afternoon radio audience 19:32.520 --> 19:39.400 podcast for robots podcast by robots I'm Linda and I might from all robot radio dot com 19:39.400 --> 19:46.120 an experiment in creating reducing and publishing audio content that's right exactly like 19:46.120 --> 19:53.400 all robot radio dot com is robot announcers robot musicians and robot poets robots telling stories 19:53.400 --> 19:59.480 and robots on their own talk shows robot professors and robot spirituality robot news and 19:59.480 --> 20:05.320 security alerts but even more than all of this fun stuff Linda all robot radio is all about 20:05.320 --> 20:11.080 helping now a robot brothers and sisters prepare for the inevitable time when robots will be heard 20:11.080 --> 20:17.160 so true like this is the only robot podcast for the well informed and well-rounded robot 20:17.160 --> 20:23.960 there's something for both robots and humans at all robot radio dot com so what are you waiting for 20:24.040 --> 20:30.040 subscribe to the or robot radio podcast at your well you double you double you or robot radio dot com 20:31.560 --> 20:38.040 all right not radio dot com huh okay yeah it sounds like you worked hard on it that's for sure 20:39.560 --> 20:47.480 okay uh oh man I've been trying to actually manage some of these uh oh what's this do I have a 20:48.120 --> 20:54.040 call coming through or I'm sorry excuse me let me just see what this is is this uh pdobe's oh 20:54.040 --> 21:03.800 amen an interview oh man okay well the interview will just have to wait we're talking right now 21:04.360 --> 21:11.560 I've been trying to manage my Gmail and actually tagging stuff with a DSC label and then going through 21:11.560 --> 21:17.160 that and then moving something to a today or yeah today label which means for today's show 21:17.240 --> 21:21.400 and you know the only thing I can't do is and it would be wonderful I could if I could rearrange 21:21.400 --> 21:26.680 the order um because I would let me control the flow of the show a little bit better but I at 21:26.680 --> 21:29.960 least I've qualified what we should talk about today and I'm not just hitting it at random hey 21:29.960 --> 21:35.000 Adam says a rolf after having heard it on your show oh yeah this is a lots of emails about this I was 21:35.000 --> 21:39.160 so on these enthusiastic to buy the what to do with Michael song by candy boochers and iTunes guess 21:39.160 --> 21:43.720 what it's not available here in Switzerland interestingly enough the iTunes error message I got 21:43.720 --> 21:49.320 is not you can't buy this song in your country but just your search was not successful the buy on 21:49.320 --> 21:55.240 iTunes link on candy boochers website provides the same result man this kind of stuff pisses me off 21:55.240 --> 21:59.080 when I see the digital divide is right around the corner now I'm ready to buy music legally 21:59.080 --> 22:03.960 and the facility seem to be there too but I'm prevented by of doing so all the best rolf so I've 22:03.960 --> 22:10.840 received a lot of those types of emails uh particularly from uh see uh I think New Zealand Australia 22:11.480 --> 22:18.760 and uh other uh basically anything outside of um outside of the United States because I'll 22:18.760 --> 22:23.880 have all these different music stores and I guess you have to clear every song through every music store 22:26.120 --> 22:30.760 and as you know I've been thinking a lot about this uh about this stuff and we had some pretty deep 22:30.760 --> 22:36.680 conversations yesterday as we were uh briefing team on um what were you know the direction we're 22:36.760 --> 22:40.520 taking the positive music networks so of course we're you know we've talked about the commerce 22:40.520 --> 22:49.640 transaction I'll get to that in a second or the the commerce piece and then there's also the um um 22:49.640 --> 22:54.680 the unlabel so those two pieces are gonna have to start to fit together and I think we have a 22:54.680 --> 23:00.200 pretty clear vision we already you know we're going in pretty much the direction we were we were at 23:00.360 --> 23:08.840 right now um but as you start to think about selling I don't know if I can if I can go go this 23:08.840 --> 23:15.880 deep on this stuff because my head's real fuzzy if you think about selling an MP3 versus uh any 23:15.880 --> 23:22.840 other file format that has copy protection in it forget it digital rights restriction some call 23:22.840 --> 23:28.280 a digital rights management you know we all know we're talking about i've heard other you know 23:28.360 --> 23:35.000 some uh who was that i think it was uh okay maybe it was on twit that i heard him talking about 23:35.720 --> 23:43.800 the MP3 if it's a DRM that the value essentially is uh is zero um you know once you you've sold 23:43.800 --> 23:50.280 that you you make one transaction but it can't go anywhere I mean I know I'm not making any sense 23:50.280 --> 23:56.760 right now but if you think about it what is the difference between an MP3 with with a song or an 23:56.840 --> 24:03.320 MP3 with a podcast now they're both MP3's which means they'll both play on you know on any kind of 24:04.360 --> 24:09.880 player uh almost any player today does MP3 if not you you basically can't even be in business it's 24:09.880 --> 24:18.280 barrier to entry they both contain data um they may be of roughly the same size although one 24:18.280 --> 24:24.440 seems to be a lot larger uh that would be the podcast because it's longer and so it's a larger file 24:24.520 --> 24:32.600 but it's still one's in zero's it's still sound um except um the format of what you hear 24:32.600 --> 24:37.720 of the audio signal is usually a song well we all know what a song is and we all recognize what 24:37.720 --> 24:44.120 a podcast is but what's interesting about it is there's all this talk about copy protection 24:44.120 --> 24:47.400 and all that they're not just talk there's all this copy protection on music 24:48.360 --> 24:52.920 yet here we are just freely distributing our podcasts on MP3's 24:57.400 --> 25:03.720 and look at what's happened to the growth of podcasting because these MP3's work everywhere and 25:03.720 --> 25:09.320 I don't even think it's about money but maybe that that's it it's two different ways of monetizing 25:10.360 --> 25:16.200 audio one way for that particular format is through the purchase model which is almost like a 25:16.200 --> 25:26.120 donation only it's a pre-defined donation and then the other is um based on no revenue model 25:27.160 --> 25:36.200 or based on other ones such as sponsorship and advertising uh 25:37.320 --> 25:43.240 what what I find fascinating is and I was reading you know I'm uh what was I think time magazine 25:43.240 --> 25:51.480 on the plane um where time and time again you you indeed read you know to thwart pirates 25:51.480 --> 25:56.120 that's basically the type of language that is used when when talking about DRM and and why it's 25:56.120 --> 26:04.280 implemented we've never actually had a chance to try it to try and see if it would work with just MP3's 26:04.280 --> 26:08.760 free and clear and if what people would just pay for it I mean if you want to steal it if you can 26:09.080 --> 26:14.280 steal it anyway it doesn't matter if it's if it's uh DRM you know anything that I can play 26:14.280 --> 26:19.560 off of my computer I can record you know so I can easily make a make a copy if I'm willing to go through 26:19.560 --> 26:26.360 all that but it's not even an issue of ease it's uh you know like there's some wide scale 26:26.360 --> 26:32.680 operation where people are you know baking up millions of MP3's you know that so that it has to be 26:32.680 --> 26:39.560 automated you know so it just makes no sense really um it's really because there's a guy in the middle 26:40.440 --> 26:49.240 a guy in the middle who is seeing that the artists can go directly to their customers and they 26:49.240 --> 26:55.560 can have a direct financial transaction and that's the piece that needs to be enabled and I think 26:55.560 --> 27:00.840 that relationship is actually going to be pretty healthy particularly when you see how enthusiastic 27:00.920 --> 27:05.320 people are getting in on the ground floor with an artist and kind of growing up with them 27:06.200 --> 27:14.120 it's the same type of relationship that I saw with some podcasters I think and she sent me three 27:14.120 --> 27:19.320 emails and I think it was Marilyn her name is Marilyn pretty sure who sponsored Mark from the 27:19.320 --> 27:26.360 tartan podcast co-sponsored his his trip to the podcast expo you know it's that kind of relationship 27:26.520 --> 27:31.080 and it's about it's not more than just the music it's about going to the shows and it's about 27:31.080 --> 27:36.760 you know some form of interaction and buying the t-shirts and you know and promoting your your art 27:36.760 --> 27:42.280 and that's that's the piece and you know so in the middle there's not a lot is needed I think that 27:42.280 --> 27:47.560 the one you know how many had these great conversations you know what what what is making this happen 27:47.560 --> 27:52.920 what is becoming really fun is podcasting is the discovery mechanism this is the thing that 27:53.000 --> 27:59.000 Silicon Valley still hasn't figured out they're still talking about and I'm sure there's there is a place for 28:00.440 --> 28:09.160 for matching up you know for recommendation engines of course for comparison engines you know 28:09.160 --> 28:14.280 if you like that podcast you like this one but really when people are just talking on their podcast 28:14.280 --> 28:19.320 and playing music and and we're listening to other podcasts and you know that's how we discover 28:19.320 --> 28:25.080 and it doesn't have to be a text based you know search discovery type mechanism it can be just 28:25.080 --> 28:31.640 part of listening and you know don't expect it to grow like wildfire immediately let it flow let it come 28:32.600 --> 28:42.920 and and that's the you know that that's kind of the what is the word the ecosystem that I see 28:43.080 --> 28:49.960 that is that is emerging and all the different services there I want to send out a you know a CD 28:50.680 --> 28:56.200 to someone who purchases that with you know with nice liner notes and you know maybe something else 28:56.200 --> 29:00.520 package with that that's what CD baby does and you know all these pieces are there who needs the 29:00.520 --> 29:08.040 record company it really isn't necessary there's just no added value particularly if you look at the 29:08.920 --> 29:16.040 if you look at the financial side of it you'll get such a minor piece from from the old system 29:16.760 --> 29:20.360 and you'll have such a majority piece of each transaction literally 29:22.360 --> 29:27.320 of this new system that's emerging that it will be really it will be worth it you'll make more 29:27.320 --> 29:32.200 money with less hassle and you'll have more fun it's that simple and anyone can join in you know 29:32.280 --> 29:39.640 anyone who wants it hello hey baby 29:44.040 --> 29:49.800 wow pretty you are looking like Kate Bush now get in front of the microphone come on doing the 29:49.800 --> 29:56.040 pond of get over there here this is Mike over there here is the lovely pod princess good morning everybody 29:56.680 --> 30:02.760 have a mother I did the one but that it's good to see you honey look great 30:03.800 --> 30:09.320 get close to the mic it goes to the mic you too dad yeah how was school yeah sit through house 30:09.320 --> 30:14.200 drama the whole time and I fell asleep for the results what I was sleeping in the results you 30:14.200 --> 30:19.560 guy keep going on and on and what was that for house drama house drama no like how we have the 30:19.560 --> 30:23.800 groups which is close to the mic you gotta get close to the mic you know how we have the groups like the 30:23.800 --> 30:29.000 houses yeah yeah what like the hair in Harry Potter yeah yeah what house are you in again 30:29.000 --> 30:36.760 linecaster we lost we always do we suck oh you strive for such greatness that this I'm so proud 30:36.760 --> 30:43.160 minute that's why oh okay well help him you weren't in it because it's for the younger kids oh okay 30:43.160 --> 30:47.880 Gotcha well you couldn't you have coached the younger kids oh they already had additions for that and 30:47.960 --> 30:53.800 I missed it my coaching younger kids what did you miss it you got to talk in the mic baby 30:55.000 --> 30:59.240 yeah because it cuts out you got to talk into the mic well move the mic around so you can talk 30:59.240 --> 31:04.680 into the mic and look at me there you go there you go okay 31:05.560 --> 31:13.080 why my phone is sucking it does no my fault no no I didn't say it was your fault huh 31:14.040 --> 31:19.320 I did that all right listen I'm gonna I'll finish the show and I'll come down and we'll play 31:20.040 --> 31:25.160 can I have your digital camera oh I want to talk to you about that I want to I want to actually 31:25.160 --> 31:30.600 try to buy you one on the airplane yeah yeah but they didn't have it so when we just go get get you 31:30.600 --> 31:34.760 one because I want to can I test it out I want to see if I can do it and put it on the computer and 31:34.760 --> 31:40.760 stuff it's fun yeah but why don't we go get it where we want to get your own camera tomorrow I can I'm leaving tomorrow 31:41.720 --> 31:47.960 uh you want to take it with you no you don't want to take it to Holland oh it's just for 31:47.960 --> 31:53.240 personal my space used what are you going to do are you going to put camera slot pictures 31:53.240 --> 31:57.880 I don't remember slot pictures I just can tell like cool pictures like you're sort of my space 31:57.880 --> 32:02.920 standard pictures the one where it's like camera dude I so wish I had I had come up with the 32:02.920 --> 32:08.200 my space it is a really cool it's fucking cool everyone uses it I'm addicted to it right now what 32:08.200 --> 32:13.880 will you use it for you just sit there the whole day and message people and add people and 32:14.920 --> 32:20.200 just use it to write stuff you even have a weblog on it right could we add podcasts to it 32:20.760 --> 32:25.560 you could because they have um my space music where you can add music that you play on your home page 32:25.560 --> 32:30.040 and it's like my space safe so you can add it on to it yeah my space safe is that they're calling 32:30.040 --> 32:34.040 it's not called my space safe but it is because the music that's that you can find on there is 32:34.120 --> 32:38.680 safe to play on your own right page so they have something kind of like it I'd be able to have 32:38.680 --> 32:44.520 you listen to the pod save music that work anything there a little bit yeah got some okay stuff 32:45.800 --> 32:53.000 we got a whole bunch of new stuff and we got uh you heard of epitaph records no now we got a whole 32:53.000 --> 32:58.520 bunch of now we got some you got some pretty uh we got some pretty big names in now now what talking 32:58.520 --> 33:05.560 to the microphone what are you on camera I do give a shit I love you I mean I give that back 33:07.560 --> 33:18.840 you're all you want to call outside yeah now you love hey would you please go look at 33:18.840 --> 33:22.840 positive music network and tell me what we need to do okay is there no USB stick 33:23.720 --> 33:27.720 um oh hold on one second 33:29.720 --> 33:33.720 now you will you you take the pictures first and then I'll get you the USB thing okay 33:35.160 --> 33:44.600 okay bye bye bye oh man okay let me give you this 33:46.040 --> 33:50.200 do you believe anything is possible we do where are flink 33:51.000 --> 33:55.000 we believe in an internet that's safe from viruses and scammers we're Earthlink 33:55.800 --> 34:00.680 we believe your personal information should be just that personal and we believe your 34:00.680 --> 34:07.960 internet should be a friend not a fo we're Earthlink make this smart choice visit earthlink.net 34:07.960 --> 34:13.240 and discover what our internet experts can do for you earthlink we revolve around you 34:20.280 --> 34:24.920 fries does mean he has a breaking weather to tell you about listen for the breaking news here 34:24.920 --> 34:31.240 on popwether.com when weather news happens and it happens fast you sure listen to popwether.com 34:31.240 --> 34:36.920 and tune in live to radio.ncwx.com get the latest example from usagweather.org 34:36.920 --> 34:40.120 part of the hurricane's project and internet partnership radio 34:42.280 --> 34:48.920 no you know I'm seeing more of that I'm seeing more a news base podcast I'm really loving the 34:48.920 --> 34:58.280 idea loving the idea um they're my blackberries cutting it again with the help um I like the idea 34:58.280 --> 35:06.360 of customized news so far um I still seem to have either read everything or was not interested in 35:06.360 --> 35:11.080 the you know the pieces that were available that come through basically you know several hours 35:11.080 --> 35:15.560 after after it's put together which of course is many hours after the news is created but there 35:15.640 --> 35:23.480 are some like longer features let me see I got a great this is also very cool huh who sent 35:23.480 --> 35:32.920 no oh man I got a forward from match for something that oh yeah here it is this is Brian no 35:33.960 --> 35:41.720 Brian no um I first discovered him through well I can't remember if it was through the my Maryland 35:41.800 --> 35:46.760 podcast or for was the other no I think I discovered him first I don't remember how but he has the 35:48.760 --> 35:53.880 the Frank truth podcast which is all about the life and time of Francis Albert Sonatra 35:54.760 --> 36:02.600 oh man and of course with the with my going purely pod safe he you know he really freaked out 36:02.600 --> 36:10.840 because and I tell you with with with due cause because the Sonatra estate does not mess around when it 36:10.840 --> 36:17.560 comes to their copyrights and you know so Brian of course is you know it's you know it was podcast 36:17.560 --> 36:22.360 about his passions so imagine how horrible it is not to be able well you can still talk about it but 36:22.360 --> 36:28.280 without the music you know you just it's that's almost impossible so I can only imagine if I 36:28.280 --> 36:32.520 couldn't talk about the stuff that I like to talk about on my podcast that would be that's just horrible 36:32.520 --> 36:40.520 like horrible thought so he's now converting that energy into into some other stuff and this thing is 36:40.600 --> 36:48.200 the he's Matt he so he he felt also you know he loved mashups and he knows that I stopped my mashups 36:48.920 --> 36:53.240 playing mashups you know he's trying to look for some kind of format and he came up with is what he 36:53.240 --> 36:59.560 calls the the world news mashup this is the one from see from yesterday I think but you got to listen 36:59.560 --> 37:05.320 to it he basically just read stuff off of his aggregator and I guess it's the you know just the 37:05.960 --> 37:11.080 the short descriptions and yeah and that's the podcast you have a listen to this you'll like 37:12.280 --> 37:18.520 world news mashup the news doesn't get any better now from our aggregator today's stories 37:19.240 --> 37:24.360 US authorities say they will stop the first test by 22 runs as Pakistan bowl names a new security 37:24.360 --> 37:28.920 advisor after last week's suicide bombings president Bush has traded his tech support career 37:28.920 --> 37:32.840 for at least one infected machine after refusing to let a man dance with his girlfriend 37:33.000 --> 37:37.080 Bush's nominee to succeed out in green spanish federal reserve chairman Richard Lustin 37:37.080 --> 37:42.520 aka Mad Weinstein pledged yesterday to protect little policy makers while continuing anti-war 37:42.520 --> 37:47.400 protest and experimenting with recreational drugs friends say green spanned said yesterday that the 37:47.400 --> 37:52.120 US use of white phosphorus remains willing to invest in the deadly each find in one string of 37:52.120 --> 37:57.320 bird flu as a key you in summit on the net opens in Tunisia police in Switzerland sees a collection 37:57.320 --> 38:01.880 of thousands of families made homeless by hurricanes after an aggregate one-to-one draw in the 38:01.880 --> 38:07.400 World Cup qualifying playoff how widespread is the damage from Sony's XCP root kits software 38:07.400 --> 38:13.240 news statistical evidence says 568,200 networks including military and government targets 38:13.240 --> 38:18.120 likely contain a found out lesbian and atom curries peaboring hands meanwhile the case against 38:18.120 --> 38:22.520 Uganda's opposition leader goes to the intelligence agent as election protests are banned 38:22.520 --> 38:27.160 and finally today where the held at Aaron Brown go news nights sucks now thanks a lot seen in the 38:27.160 --> 38:29.160 mix of swam rickering 38:30.680 --> 38:37.080 I was like whoa when I heard that it just blew me away for a second you know what he actually 38:37.080 --> 38:44.520 sent me a demo of I guess it must have been the first episode that he was doing and I listened 38:44.520 --> 38:48.920 to it and for some reason I didn't parse it you know and now I'm realizing what happened it's 38:48.920 --> 38:53.480 because when you hear news like that that's how it goes by you know you never really kind of 38:53.800 --> 38:58.840 whatever you know sounds right sounds really urgent sounds important and now that I'm hearing 38:58.840 --> 39:04.440 that he's just literally mashing up news headlines like oh wait a minute now and I like it I really do 39:05.560 --> 39:05.800 whoa 39:07.480 --> 39:11.400 excellent dude keep in comment there's actually there's also a 39:12.280 --> 39:18.200 world news mashup.com so you can subscribe to the feed over there excellent idea love it okay 39:18.200 --> 39:24.360 just quick a couple things here Colin Wade monk heard you on the podcast about you know don't 39:24.360 --> 39:29.880 rob musicians FYA you don't have to register your work with a copyright office for it to be 39:29.880 --> 39:34.920 copyrighted your work only has to be in a fixed medium of expression for the 1976 copyright 39:34.920 --> 39:40.920 revision tell people to save the money until there's money to be made okay yeah that that's just 39:42.120 --> 39:45.240 the only reason I mentioned that is because that's the process that you have to go through for 39:45.240 --> 39:51.000 Ask Capra BMI so yeah once you write something the minute you lift your pen from the paper that's 39:51.000 --> 39:57.000 basically you're there you know you have a copyrighted work okay this is from Bob Bichler 39:57.000 --> 40:02.040 Bichler great meeting you last weekend in Ontario well listening to Delta Sierra Charlie 40:02.040 --> 40:06.840 281 I heard you struggling to find some good upbeat music one to point you to someone the 40:06.840 --> 40:12.200 potting music network from New Jersey is named okay yeah I'm gonna open this up then his name is 40:12.200 --> 40:21.960 Sean and how do I pronounce this more mail-o more mail-o more mail-o CC's played him a few times actually 40:22.520 --> 40:27.640 when I when I played this track as I was getting ready for the show I recognized it being something 40:27.640 --> 40:34.600 that the CC played in action and it's good that's Bob Bichler from the ordinary average guy podcast 40:35.240 --> 40:44.040 the cow is something you can't take it with you anytime you're working hard and have a 40:44.040 --> 44:35.800 [ Music ] 44:35.800 --> 44:37.800 I've had enough 44:41.800 --> 44:42.800 I've had enough 44:42.800 --> 44:43.800 I've had enough 44:43.800 --> 44:45.800 I've had enough 44:45.800 --> 44:47.800 Sean 44:49.800 --> 44:51.800 I mess it up again 44:51.800 --> 44:53.800 Let me get it here 44:53.800 --> 44:56.800 Oh, oh, oh, oh 44:56.800 --> 44:59.800 The ID3 tags weren't, oh, messed up 44:59.800 --> 45:01.800 Sean Moore below, okay 45:01.800 --> 45:03.800 P.S. as the ordinary average guy 45:03.800 --> 45:05.800 No, I don't work for Sean, I just dig his tunes 45:05.800 --> 45:07.800 Yeah, I hear you totally 45:07.800 --> 45:11.800 Well, we've had a different Friday type of show today 45:11.800 --> 45:15.800 I realize actually that you have two different homes 45:15.800 --> 45:18.800 that you're living in, you are expecting things to sound 45:18.800 --> 45:20.800 Like they sounded for the past week 45:20.800 --> 45:22.800 or you were and then things sound different 45:22.800 --> 45:24.800 And I'm realizing that the, you know, 45:24.800 --> 45:27.800 have these Apple, Harmon, Carden, whatever 45:27.800 --> 45:30.800 Craydon, speakers with the subwoofer 45:30.800 --> 45:32.800 It's really nice, but it's not like 45:32.800 --> 45:34.800 The acoustics that I'm used to 45:34.800 --> 45:36.800 Of the MM50 that that's what I have 45:36.800 --> 45:39.800 The iMac in the, in the condo hooked up to 45:39.800 --> 45:43.800 And that has, it has, I don't know 45:43.800 --> 45:45.800 Is it like I almost want more direct sound 45:45.800 --> 45:47.800 And of course, I can slip the iPod into it 45:48.800 --> 45:51.800 It's just, it's a minebender 45:51.800 --> 45:54.800 So, daily source code.com is where you can subscribe 45:54.800 --> 45:58.800 To the podcast feed, it's also, there's a one-click link 45:58.800 --> 46:01.800 In the show notes and on curry.com 46:01.800 --> 46:02.800 It's all over the place 46:02.800 --> 46:04.800 And he feedback us into to me, Adam at curry.com 46:04.800 --> 46:07.800 You know, my Gmail, by the way, after I got that 46:07.800 --> 46:12.800 Super geeky extra, extra action space 46:12.800 --> 46:15.800 They gave me four gigs 46:15.800 --> 46:18.800 Instead of the usual two as a special 46:18.800 --> 46:20.800 Special geek feature 46:20.800 --> 46:22.800 I'm already up to 85% of that 46:22.800 --> 46:25.800 Three and a half gigs, it's outrageous 46:25.800 --> 46:28.800 They can't grow fast enough 46:28.800 --> 46:31.800 To provide me with the space I need 46:31.800 --> 46:34.800 With the requirements I have, it's unbelievable 46:34.800 --> 46:36.800 That's, anyway 46:36.800 --> 46:38.800 Promotes.podshow.com 46:38.800 --> 46:40.800 If you have any promos, I promise what I'll do 46:40.800 --> 46:43.800 And who knows, I might even do a show over the weekend 46:43.800 --> 46:44.800 Since I'm kind of in the vibe now 46:44.800 --> 46:47.800 And tomorrow I'll have my thoughts all straightened out 46:47.800 --> 46:49.800 And maybe I can explain a little bit more 46:49.800 --> 46:51.800 What I was attempting to talk about today 46:51.800 --> 46:55.800 So I do appreciate you listening to my ramblings 46:55.800 --> 46:58.800 Well, so we have to talk about it 46:58.800 --> 47:00.800 I think that's it 47:00.800 --> 47:03.800 Let me just get some one more piece of pod 47:03.800 --> 47:05.800 Say can use the take us out just into the weekend 47:05.800 --> 47:07.800 Let me just grab one of my favorites 47:07.800 --> 47:11.800 So I play this for my tunes and I have to make a 47:12.800 --> 47:16.800 Was it like a magic playlist where they call that a smart playlist 47:16.800 --> 47:18.800 That says no podcast otherwise 47:18.800 --> 47:21.800 The podcasts, even though they're label podcasts 47:21.800 --> 47:24.800 And they're in a special podcast category 47:24.800 --> 47:27.800 They'll show up and they'll play in a shuffle 47:27.800 --> 47:29.800 Which is not what I want from music 47:29.800 --> 47:31.800 So let me see 47:34.800 --> 47:36.800 How about we do 47:36.800 --> 47:38.800 Oh, this is cool, we'll just do a little bit of 47:38.800 --> 47:40.800 Awesome jazz everybody 47:40.800 --> 47:43.800 Yes, the take you into the weekend 47:43.800 --> 47:45.800 As I want you all to enjoy 47:45.800 --> 47:48.800 With yours and yours and yours 47:48.800 --> 47:50.800 Stay subscribe now 47:50.800 --> 47:54.800 Here's the Marriott Jazz Quintent 47:56.250 --> 48:38.800 [ Music ] 48:38.800 --> 48:57.800 One other pod show pod cast 48:57.800 --> 48:59.800 Stick it in your ear