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Yes, in the next generation
radio content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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[ Music ]

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I keep falling on my head

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Space rocks

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Keep falling on our heads

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It's a way with the fairies

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You know where I found that one

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The podcast music network

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Everybody thank God

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Oh shit, I forgot my Friday

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Hey, thank God, it's Friday

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It's a shitty Friday

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Horrible horrible weather

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I had a whole flight plan

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For a two-day trip of flight
training

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And hookin' up with some friends

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Actually, hookin' up with one of
my lawyers

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Who helped me get some stuff

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Oh, hold on

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That's not right

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There we go, that's much better

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I'm gonna have some drinks with
him

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In Amsterdam tomorrow

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Afternoon

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But shit, it's not gonna happen
now

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Because we have over 20 knots
crosswind

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Here at the local airfield

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At Faroaks, Echo Golf, Tango,
Fox Trot

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And they expected to go up to 30
knots today

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If you know, if you're pilot

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Then you know that doing that in
a SESNO 182

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Even the RG version is just
dangerous

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It's too much wind

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And they're expecting even worse
for tomorrow

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So it looks like flying will be
delayed

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Until after the weekend

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Hey, guess what everybody?

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I am the Kate Winslet of
Wikipedia

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Oh, man

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Talk about space rocks

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I came home last night

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And like a huge fucking space
rock

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Hit me right in the head

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And I'm like, whoa, what's goin'
on?

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Oh, my goodness

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Well, I appreciate everyone
tuning in today

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To hear what I have to say about
this

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Well, I got a lot to say about
it

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First of all, yesterday

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I had a gnarly day trying to get
into London

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I was visiting Tom Buyers

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Who was doing a guest

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Stint at the University College
London

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Which is affiliated with
Stanford

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And it was two hours to get
there

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I made the mistake of taking a
car service

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Instead of the train

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Which I should have done

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Because once we're in London,
man

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It was pretty good to look at
all the Christmas decorations

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But it was gnarly

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So I'd love to talk about that

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But first, we've got to talk
about this

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Wikipedia controversy

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If you don't know what I'm
talking about

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Then on curry.com

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You can see a piece that I wrote
about

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At point to some of the original
articles

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That started this off

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But wow, this thing is on fire

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It's unbelievable

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Here's what went down two days
ago

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I noticed in

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I used a Google reader

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And I like it because it's
almost like a river of news

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The Dave Preaches

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What I'm totally hooked on

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But not quite

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But it works well enough

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And it's pretty ubiquitous

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And so I've been using that

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And I saw a reference to

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Maybe it was techno-radi

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I can remember one of the other

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I saw a reference to

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But because of course you know

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Every single day I get up

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And I go to techno-radi

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And search for myself

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See if there's any articles
about me

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And I saw something about the
history

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Of podcasting

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And I hadn't looked at the
Wikipedia entry for a long time

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And I went over that

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I was astounded

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But there were names in there

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Who I've never heard of

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I was like

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Wow

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Maybe brilliant minds

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All do think like at the same
time

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And I made mention of that

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In the source code

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Which was at Wednesdays

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I think at Wednesdays show

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That you know

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Neither my nor Dave Wine

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There's contributions to
podcasting

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We're fairly represented anymore

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And there were just a lot of

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Sexual errors in there

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That I know to be

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Factually incorrect

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And I don't know if Dave heard
that show

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Or maybe

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For somehow he also noticed that

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The Wikipedia entries were
incorrect

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And

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So I said, you know

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Shit man

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And I have edited in this before

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In the Wikipedia

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And let me just point out

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Wikipedia editing is not trivial

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Now people think I'm full of
shit

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Or at least that's what they're
writing

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But I haven't even figured out
how to do my own

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Show notes properly

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Which is why I'm so happy with
show notes

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Michael once in a while

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I'm able to you know

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I can certainly add a line

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But when all those brackets and
shit

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I just have no patience to
understand

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Why can't it just be like HTML

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Is what I'm thinking

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But anyway

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That's beside the point

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Here's what I wanted to change

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And I really did start to do
this

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And I started to write some
stuff

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Kevin Marx

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I actually

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And it's kind of weird

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Because

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I wanted to write the full story

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I remember it

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Kevin Marx

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Well let me start with another
piece that I took out

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Which is infinitely incorrect

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Trade secrets

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Was not the first podcast

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Okay

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Dave and I did try

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Trade secrets

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Way after he was podcasting

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After I was podcasting

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After Doug K was podcasting

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So and that's something that
keeps showing up

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Over and over again

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And it's just it's not true

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It was certainly

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Defining moment for both of us

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And maybe it was the first

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Do-O podcast

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When the word finally existed

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But it's irrelevant

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It was not the first podcast

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You know what?

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Maybe I should

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Why don't I just

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I'll tell you what

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I'll recount the history

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As I recall it

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And then we'll get to the Kevin
Marx piece

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Which is very important

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Because Kevin certainly does not
get

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The credit he is due

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Because he was a complete
inspiration to me

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And that's what I wanted to

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Defix actually

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So

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In 2000

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It was

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Yeah it was pre

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It was either

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2000

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2001

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It was pre-911

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I met Dave Weiner in New York

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And that by the way is for me

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Where the entire

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Concept of shipping large media
files

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Through RSS

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Was conceived

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Dave had already done all of his
work on RSS

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And this is pre RSS 2.0

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We met in New York

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And I was talking about

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The concept of delayed

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Basically time-shifting

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Content downloads

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In order to give the user a
great experience

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By dripping the content

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Into their computer

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And then only telling them that
it was there

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Once it was there

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So you could have a 100-meg file

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Downloading to your hard drive

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And

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And not even know about it

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But then you'd get a message

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Somehow that would say

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Hey you've got mail

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Or you've got

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You've got content

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And then you'd click on a file

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Or however you open it up

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And it would already be there

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On your hard drive

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So the experience would be
fantastic

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This was at a time when
streaming

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Everyone was doing streaming

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And the quality was just not

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Not really valuable

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Or didn't deliver on the
experience

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Like put it that way

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And I showed Dave some software

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That I'd built in frontier at
the time

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I think was frontier

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I don't know

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Five, six

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Maybe it was radio

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That's possible

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I don't remember

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And from that meeting

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Dave created the enclosure
element

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And then of course subsequently
RSS 2.0

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And for four years

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We would be evangelizing this
stuff

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Attaching movie trailers

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Big clips

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Blogging about it

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But I have to say

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I was really thinking video at
the time

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And not thinking audio at all

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So that was

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So essentially podcasting exist

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That ever since

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Radio user land

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I think was the first aggregator

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That did downloads of enclosures

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So it was already there

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It's just we hadn't quite

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Well the iPod wasn't there

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That's what was missing

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I think the real was there

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But that connection really
hadn't been made

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Let me see

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What is the other

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And I'm just going to go through
my contributions to podcast

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This is so ridiculous

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We're doing this

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Okay, fast forward

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To

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Just before blogger the very
first blogger

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Con

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And Dave was posting interviews

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That Christopher Lydon was doing

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On to an RSS feed

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A separate RSS feed within
closures

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At the time I was doing

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I was winding down a stint

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As I was doing a morning radio
show

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In the Netherlands

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And I was really enjoying

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These interviews that
Christopher Lydon was doing

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They were just

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It sounded crappy

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It was fucked up

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It was just it was not like
regular radio

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Yet the content was so
compelling

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Was different lengths

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And I was totally blown away by
it

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And I wanted more

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The needle was in

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And I was just waiting for this
stuff

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To refresh

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And so it would download to my
hard drive

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And I would then basically

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Drag it over

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Oh that's oh by then I had
gotten an iPod

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And I didn't

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I was not that interested in
music

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But I was heavy into audio books

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I did a lot of audio books stuff

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On the daily source code in the
very beginning

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Because I really like audio
books

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And I was also dragging these

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MP3 files into iTunes

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So I could sync up with my iPod

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And I think somewhere around

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Into you number four or five

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I thought to myself

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My goodness

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Wouldn't it be nice if it could
go

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On to my iPod automatically

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And

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Marcus Moller

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Another person who is not
mentioned in the

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Wikipedia

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Who was worked with me for

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For years on schoolblocks.com

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He actually created

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I think it was a frontier script

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I think it was an apple script

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He created a little apple script

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That would pull the directory

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The download directory for radio

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And if something new showed up

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It would then pop it onto my
iPod

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So I actually Marcus

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Deserves some major props there

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Which he's never received

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And certainly has an asked for

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And he's not on the Wikipedia

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So oh my god

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What's wrong with the history
here

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Then we had blogger con

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And a blogger con

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I met

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Oh no shit

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Oh man there's so much more

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Christ

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I don't even remember the
chronology now

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After

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Lidens interviews

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I don't know if it was Doug Kay

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That I started listening to

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Based upon Dave's recommendation

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But

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At blogger con

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I met Kevin Marx

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And Kevin Marx had created

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An apple script

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That would download in closures

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Now I don't think

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It transferred everything
straight over to the iPod

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But we certainly discussed it

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And I remember asking him

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You know I do

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We've got to do something with
this

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This is cool

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I'd love that script

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I don't think

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We had a couple follow on emails
after that

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But he really completely
inspired me

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To get into apple script

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And I'm like wow

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Maybe I can make this whole

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Front to Back thing

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Because although I like radio

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User land

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It used up so many resources

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That if I wanted to have the
whole

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Experience of stuff being sucked
in

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Automatically

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If I wanted to have that

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Running continuously

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It really couldn't be radio

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User land

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Because it really

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Used up way too many resources

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On the computer

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So I wanted a simpler solution

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Something would just go out

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And check for the file once in a
while

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Now I think that's somewhere

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Between there

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I also experimented with

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Some Python code

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Either Python or Pearl code

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Which I believe

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I can't remember who did that
original code

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If I could have been slusher

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Man I don't even remember

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Maybe it was Ray or August

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I potter X who had done that

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I can't recall

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But for all intents and purposes

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I set out on my own

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After BloggerCon

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While Dave was doing the
democratic

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National Convention

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And by the way

17:35.400 --> 17:36.400
Those were in my mind

17:36.400 --> 17:37.400
After Christopher Lyd

17:37.400 --> 17:39.400
And definitely the first podcast
that I listened to

17:39.400 --> 17:40.400
And they were great

17:40.400 --> 17:41.400
And we talk about it all the
time

17:41.400 --> 17:43.400
We talk about

17:43.400 --> 17:45.400
About the microphone

17:45.400 --> 17:47.400
About Mike technique

17:48.400 --> 17:50.400
And Dave would do all kinds of
wacky shit

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Like leave it running in his bag

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Without him knowing it

17:53.400 --> 17:54.400
And he'd post all these files

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And I even said to him

17:55.400 --> 17:56.400
I said dude

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If you were working on the radio

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You'd be so fucking fired

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Don't stop

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This is amazing

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This is great shit

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So

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Then I

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I'm not sure

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I guess I didn't get any
connection

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With Kevin Marx

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Which is exactly what I wanted
to say

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Because if he had had

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This script working

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All the way through to the iPod

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Which I don't recall it that way

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In

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At BloggerCon

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Then I'm not sure

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If he had demonstrated that

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How come

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You know I didn't use that

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Because what I wound up doing

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Is searching all over the web

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For XML parsers

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There really wasn't an RSS
parser

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Perse

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For Apple script

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I think there was some kind of
OSX

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AOSX thing that you had to
include

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Or whatever

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Some

18:47.400 --> 18:48.400
There was definitely some other
code

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Which was all credited and
commented

18:49.400 --> 18:52.400
In the original iPod or Apple
script

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And it's like I'm fucking month

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Learn how to do this shit

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And I created it

18:58.400 --> 18:59.400
It worked

18:59.400 --> 19:01.400
And then I put it out on
iPod.org

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And that's when

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A whole bunch of developers
jumped on board

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This was extremely cool

19:07.400 --> 19:10.400
Because I was able to
participate

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In a software development
process

19:12.400 --> 19:13.400
As a user

19:13.400 --> 19:14.400
This is the whole

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Users and developers

19:16.400 --> 19:17.400
Partying together thing

19:17.400 --> 19:19.400
Which probably lasted for
another month

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By itself

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Which

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And I was very happy

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Dave purposely stayed out of
that

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Conversation

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Even told me he did it purposely

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Because he said there was
something

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Beautiful going on there

19:29.400 --> 19:30.400
And it was because

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The daily source code

19:31.400 --> 19:33.400
For those of you who are
wondering about the history

19:33.400 --> 19:37.400
And the history behind the name
of the daily source code

19:37.400 --> 19:39.400
Was really only created

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I knew that making an aggregator

19:41.400 --> 19:44.400
That is downloading MP3 files

19:44.400 --> 19:46.400
Is

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A lot of thought goes into it

19:48.400 --> 19:50.400
And if you don't have something

19:50.400 --> 19:52.400
If you don't have a feed to test
it against

19:52.400 --> 19:54.400
Then it's a bummer

19:54.400 --> 19:55.400
You have to keep creating feeds

19:55.400 --> 19:58.400
Or deleting content and going
through it again

19:58.400 --> 20:01.400
And so my commitment to the
process at the time

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And this is the iPod or iPod or
X guys

20:03.400 --> 20:04.400
iPod or lemon

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Nimmig

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I'm going to forget all of these
different names

20:09.400 --> 20:11.400
I can't remember all of them

20:11.400 --> 20:13.400
A lot of Dutch developers

20:13.400 --> 20:15.400
Frankly

20:15.400 --> 20:17.400
So I would do the show

20:17.400 --> 20:18.400
Which I called the source code

20:18.400 --> 20:20.400
Thinking source code would
appeal to developers

20:20.400 --> 20:21.400
And I did it

20:21.400 --> 20:23.400
Actually it started off seven
days a week

20:23.400 --> 20:25.400
So we called the daily source
code

20:25.400 --> 20:27.400
And I'd talk about my
experiences

20:27.400 --> 20:28.400
Using their software

20:28.400 --> 20:30.400
And that would be kind of the
feedback loop

20:30.400 --> 20:31.400
And it was fantastic

20:31.400 --> 20:32.400
Because they would

20:32.400 --> 20:33.400
They're aggregators

20:34.400 --> 20:36.400
And their iPoders would get my
show

20:36.400 --> 20:37.400
They'd listen to it

20:37.400 --> 20:38.400
They'd be feedback there

20:38.400 --> 20:41.400
And it just kind of grew from
there

20:41.400 --> 20:44.400
Now early on we had this whole

20:44.400 --> 20:46.400
Who invented podcasting thing

20:46.400 --> 20:47.400
And by the way

20:47.400 --> 20:50.400
Even the name is heavily
disputed

20:50.400 --> 20:53.400
The first I heard of it was when
Dave Slusher

20:53.400 --> 20:55.400
Saw this podcasting.net

20:55.400 --> 20:56.400
Ork.com

20:56.400 --> 20:58.400
Show up in his referral logs

20:58.400 --> 21:00.400
And that had been registered by
Danny Grigwar

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And that's to me how the name
podcasting was born

21:03.400 --> 21:05.400
But then hammerously of the
guardian always claims

21:05.400 --> 21:07.400
That he invented the name

21:07.400 --> 21:08.400
In fact he did publish the name

21:08.400 --> 21:10.400
A year before

21:10.400 --> 21:12.400
Danny Grigwar

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But

21:13.400 --> 21:14.400
You know it's like

21:14.400 --> 21:15.400
Okay

21:15.400 --> 21:16.400
So it doesn't really matter

21:16.400 --> 21:20.400
So that's essentially the story
of podcasting

21:20.400 --> 21:23.400
As I recall it

21:23.400 --> 21:25.400
And following upon

21:25.400 --> 21:28.400
The conversation we had on the
last daily source code

21:29.400 --> 21:30.400
That's my reality

21:30.400 --> 21:31.400
That's the way I remember it

21:31.400 --> 21:32.400
I may be completely wrong

21:32.400 --> 21:34.400
Based upon Kevin Marx's reality

21:34.400 --> 21:36.400
Based upon Dave Wine's reality

21:36.400 --> 21:37.400
You know

21:37.400 --> 21:38.400
I don't know

21:38.400 --> 21:40.400
But when I go into Wikipedia

21:40.400 --> 21:42.400
To go change that stuff

21:42.400 --> 21:43.400
You know

21:43.400 --> 21:45.400
Then for someone to say

21:45.400 --> 21:46.400
Which by the way

21:46.400 --> 21:48.400
I didn't say Adam Curry did all
this

21:48.400 --> 21:49.400
Adam Curry this or that

21:49.400 --> 21:51.400
I haven't added any entries
about myself

21:51.400 --> 21:53.400
Into Wikipedia.org

21:53.400 --> 21:56.400
To say that I'm trying to grab
more credit

21:57.400 --> 21:58.400
Or change history

21:58.400 --> 22:01.400
Isn't the Wikipedia all about
changing history?

22:01.400 --> 22:02.400
And quite honestly

22:02.400 --> 22:04.400
This thing doesn't work

22:04.400 --> 22:06.400
This Wikipedia shit is broken

22:06.400 --> 22:07.400
I mean now

22:07.400 --> 22:08.400
I'm even seeing people

22:08.400 --> 22:09.400
Say oh yeah

22:09.400 --> 22:10.400
He was the first domain name

22:10.400 --> 22:12.400
Squatter with MTV dot com

22:12.400 --> 22:13.400
Well you know

22:13.400 --> 22:15.400
That's not the the history of it

22:15.400 --> 22:17.400
You know the history of MTV dot
com

22:17.400 --> 22:20.400
Is that MTV allowed me to use it

22:20.400 --> 22:23.400
You know I registered it before
there was even a worldwide web

22:23.400 --> 22:25.400
But you know so now that's how
history

22:25.400 --> 22:27.400
Will be written forever

22:27.400 --> 22:29.400
I'm the Kate Winslet of the
Wikipedia

22:29.400 --> 22:30.400
And I am

22:30.400 --> 22:32.400
The first domain name squatter

22:32.400 --> 22:33.400
Well so be it

22:33.400 --> 22:35.400
I can't help

22:35.400 --> 22:36.400
What you think

22:36.400 --> 22:38.400
Now I do think what we'll be fun
to do

22:38.400 --> 22:41.400
Since Wikipedia the whole idea
of

22:41.400 --> 22:43.400
Making something editable

22:43.400 --> 22:45.400
And text it's just too easy

22:45.400 --> 22:46.400
As you can tell

22:46.400 --> 22:48.400
Here's the prime example

22:48.400 --> 22:49.400
And now by the way

22:49.400 --> 22:51.400
If you read the comments

22:51.400 --> 22:52.400
Everybody hates me

22:52.400 --> 22:53.400
I'm busted

22:53.400 --> 22:55.400
I don't know what I'm busted for

22:55.400 --> 22:57.400
For using the fucking Wikipedia

22:57.400 --> 22:59.400
And trying to figure out a wiki

22:59.400 --> 23:01.400
Well I was writing this as I
said

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I got fucking

23:03.400 --> 23:05.400
Exasperated with the whole

23:05.400 --> 23:07.400
Process of writing in a wiki

23:07.400 --> 23:10.400
And the two pieces that I wanted
to change

23:10.400 --> 23:12.400
Did wind up getting edited out

23:12.400 --> 23:13.400
But nothing was added in

23:13.400 --> 23:15.400
And that's the piece that is
unfortunate

23:15.400 --> 23:18.400
So now you've heard what I
wanted to put in

23:18.400 --> 23:19.400
Now you've heard my

23:19.400 --> 23:22.400
Perception of how podcasting
started

23:22.400 --> 23:24.400
And you know

23:24.400 --> 23:26.400
Just like in the universe

23:26.400 --> 23:28.400
Just like with let's take a car
for example

23:28.400 --> 23:29.400
You can't

23:29.400 --> 23:31.400
What's more important?

23:31.400 --> 23:33.400
The engine or the steering wheel

23:33.400 --> 23:35.400
Now you may say steering wheel

23:35.400 --> 23:36.400
You may say engine

23:36.400 --> 23:37.400
But of course

23:37.400 --> 23:39.400
Every single piece of the car is
important

23:39.400 --> 23:41.400
You can't drive without the
steering wheel

23:41.400 --> 23:42.400
You can't drive without the
engine

23:42.400 --> 23:44.400
You can't drive without

23:44.400 --> 23:46.400
The tire valve

23:46.400 --> 23:48.400
Being in place

23:48.400 --> 23:49.400
You then you'd have

23:49.400 --> 23:50.400
One flat tire

23:51.400 --> 23:53.400
So all of these pieces in the
universe

23:53.400 --> 23:54.400
Had to come together

23:54.400 --> 23:55.400
And I'm sure that these people

23:55.400 --> 23:57.400
Who's names I don't even
recognize

23:57.400 --> 23:58.400
In wiki pedia

23:58.400 --> 23:59.400
Entry for podcasting

23:59.400 --> 24:02.400
I'm sure they were they
contributed as well

24:02.400 --> 24:04.400
At the end of the day

24:04.400 --> 24:05.400
I personally

24:05.400 --> 24:07.400
Really don't care

24:07.400 --> 24:09.400
I mean I've been having too much
fun

24:09.400 --> 24:11.400
Working with

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Hundreds

24:12.400 --> 24:15.400
If not thousands of creative
talented people

24:15.400 --> 24:16.400
You know

24:16.400 --> 24:18.400
Changing

24:18.400 --> 24:20.400
Radio broadcasting

24:20.400 --> 24:22.400
Changing

24:22.400 --> 24:23.400
The music business

24:23.400 --> 24:24.400
Yeah

24:24.400 --> 24:25.400
And I can't do this by myself

24:25.400 --> 24:27.400
Yeah, I'm not the one that's
responsible

24:27.400 --> 24:28.400
I'm not

24:28.400 --> 24:30.400
I'm certainly not

24:30.400 --> 24:33.400
Ever tried to take full credit

24:33.400 --> 24:35.400
I've given

24:35.400 --> 24:36.400
I've given plenty of credit

24:36.400 --> 24:38.400
Where credit is due

24:38.400 --> 24:40.400
So anyway

24:40.400 --> 24:42.400
And nothing I say here will make
any difference

24:42.400 --> 24:44.400
But at least I wanted to have it
on record

24:44.400 --> 24:46.400
So the thing that I thought
would be interesting

24:46.400 --> 24:50.400
Is to create a podcast of the
definitive history of

24:50.400 --> 24:52.400
Wait a minute

24:52.400 --> 24:56.400
The definitive history of
podcasting

24:56.400 --> 25:00.400
And I know who should do it by
the way

25:00.400 --> 25:03.400
And I think I know how we should
do it

25:03.400 --> 25:05.400
Doug Kay has to do this

25:05.400 --> 25:08.400
Doug Kay is the perfect
candidate

25:08.400 --> 25:10.400
Everyone loves Doug

25:10.400 --> 25:13.400
And Doug has a heart of gold

25:13.400 --> 25:16.400
And as far as I know Doug he's
extremely honest

25:16.400 --> 25:18.400
And a damn good pilot

25:18.400 --> 25:21.400
And what if he were to

25:21.400 --> 25:23.400
Set up a project

25:23.400 --> 25:25.400
And you know I'd gladly help

25:25.400 --> 25:27.400
Or contribute to the funding of
this

25:27.400 --> 25:29.400
To the podcast academy

25:29.400 --> 25:31.400
Or IT conversations

25:31.400 --> 25:33.400
Or whatever is necessary

25:33.400 --> 25:35.400
To get this going

25:35.400 --> 25:37.400
We should have him

25:37.400 --> 25:39.400
Interview

25:39.400 --> 25:42.400
All the people who have been
involved in podcasting

25:42.400 --> 25:44.400
Now that's a lot of interviews
by the way

25:44.400 --> 25:47.400
It's just look at all the
Wikipedia entries

25:47.400 --> 25:50.400
Or maybe we go to Wikipedia and
look at all the changes

25:50.400 --> 25:53.400
And look up the IP addresses and
see if we can trace everybody

25:53.400 --> 25:55.400
Thanks easy net by the way

25:55.400 --> 25:58.400
For putting on the fucking
personal information

25:58.400 --> 26:00.400
In my in the right database

26:00.400 --> 26:02.400
That really helps my god

26:02.400 --> 26:04.400
You know I've often the phone
has been ringing at night here

26:04.400 --> 26:06.400
It's fucked up

26:06.400 --> 26:10.400
So then you could have all these
different versions

26:10.400 --> 26:13.400
All side by side

26:13.400 --> 26:16.400
And I think you'll find that the
chronology gets messed up

26:16.400 --> 26:18.400
I know for sure that I have my
chronology messed up

26:18.400 --> 26:21.400
You probably have to pull up

26:21.400 --> 26:22.400
It's a big project

26:22.400 --> 26:23.400
But it would be very interesting

26:23.400 --> 26:26.400
If we could create that as a
historical document

26:26.400 --> 26:28.400
So that we'd have it

26:28.400 --> 26:30.400
And it would be non-changeable

26:30.400 --> 26:33.400
Because that's the downside to
the Wikipedia

26:33.400 --> 26:35.400
And you know it's like

26:35.400 --> 26:38.400
When you've been interviewed in
a newspaper

26:38.400 --> 26:42.400
Or for a magazine or for some
website

26:42.400 --> 26:44.400
It never comes back the way you
told it

26:44.400 --> 26:46.400
It never comes back the even the
way

26:46.400 --> 26:48.400
Usually not the way you intended
it to be

26:48.400 --> 26:50.400
It's whatever the reporter was
thinking

26:50.400 --> 26:52.400
Usually what they already had
preconceived

26:52.400 --> 26:54.400
You know and you can massage
that kind of stuff

26:54.400 --> 26:56.400
And you can you can work it

26:56.400 --> 26:58.400
But you know so the same thing
you know

26:58.400 --> 27:01.400
Then you kind of will distrust
anything that's written ever
again

27:01.400 --> 27:06.400
Because it's all written from
someone else's reality

27:06.400 --> 27:08.400
So that's my reality

27:08.400 --> 27:10.400
I wasn't trying to do anything

27:10.400 --> 27:12.400
I'm not saying I didn't try to
edit

27:12.400 --> 27:14.400
Then I saying I didn't want to
edit

27:14.400 --> 27:16.400
I'm saying that I did get
exasperated

27:16.400 --> 27:18.400
With the Wiki and stopped
editing

27:18.400 --> 27:20.400
So

27:20.400 --> 27:22.400
Kate Winslett of the Wikipedia

27:22.400 --> 27:25.400
Anyway, I'm really happy I have
all your attention today

27:25.400 --> 27:30.400
Because we have a fantastic
project that I wanted to
introduce to you

27:30.400 --> 27:32.400
This is something that's been
going on for a couple of weeks

27:32.400 --> 27:38.400
We have the pod save for peace
Christmas song

27:38.400 --> 27:40.400
Which is now complete

27:40.400 --> 27:44.400
And I have the honor of
premiering that right here

27:44.400 --> 27:46.400
On the daily source code

27:46.400 --> 27:48.400
Quick history about this

27:48.400 --> 27:54.400
Slow a member or contributor to
the Ponte music network

27:54.400 --> 27:58.400
Upload it a song called If Every
Day We're Christmas

27:58.400 --> 28:02.400
And on one of my usual morning
scans a couple weeks ago

28:02.400 --> 28:04.400
I heard the song I played it on
the source code

28:04.400 --> 28:06.400
And

28:06.400 --> 28:08.400
Hold on a second

28:08.400 --> 28:10.400
That's the phone

28:10.400 --> 28:14.400
I'll talk to you later

28:14.400 --> 28:16.400
Okay

28:16.400 --> 28:20.400
Wow, it's almost like an old
fashioned source code

28:22.400 --> 28:24.400
Where was I?

28:24.400 --> 28:26.400
Okay, so I played this

28:26.400 --> 28:28.400
After the song played on the
source code

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Wow, man, that's almost kind of
like a we are the world

28:30.400 --> 28:32.400
Or bandaid

28:32.400 --> 28:36.400
Do they know it's Christmas kind
of kind of song?

28:36.400 --> 28:38.400
I said wouldn't it be cool if we
had a whole bunch of pod save
music artists

28:38.400 --> 28:40.400
All joined together

28:40.400 --> 28:44.400
But not in a physical studio,
physical location

28:44.400 --> 28:46.400
But actually have them
contribute tracks

28:46.400 --> 28:48.400
To create a similar song

28:48.400 --> 28:50.400
And then hopefully we could

28:50.400 --> 28:52.400
Maybe get to race a money for it

28:52.400 --> 28:54.400
We could sell it somehow

28:54.400 --> 28:58.400
And we could race a money for a
worthy cause

28:58.400 --> 29:00.400
Well, this got picked up

29:00.400 --> 29:02.400
Slaw immediately jumped on it

29:02.400 --> 29:06.400
And CC Chapman of course did a
humongous job in getting
everybody

29:06.400 --> 29:08.400
Or as many people as possible
involved

29:08.400 --> 29:10.400
So

29:10.400 --> 29:12.400
Since we don't have a wonderful
video

29:12.400 --> 29:14.400
Which of course is something I
didn't think about

29:14.400 --> 29:18.400
As we should have had everyone
sending a piece of video of them

29:18.400 --> 29:20.400
Recording their tracks at their
home studio

29:20.400 --> 29:22.400
Because then we really would
have had something cool

29:22.400 --> 29:24.400
He's giving me the lineup

29:24.400 --> 29:26.400
And I'll just go before I play
the song

29:26.400 --> 29:28.400
I'll go through everyone who's
on it

29:28.400 --> 29:30.400
In order of appearance

29:30.400 --> 29:32.400
And then we'll play this
wonderful piece of work

29:32.400 --> 29:36.400
Of which all proceeds if any

29:36.400 --> 29:38.400
We'll go to unicef

29:38.400 --> 29:42.400
So the pod save for peace lineup

29:42.400 --> 29:44.400
Here we go

29:44.400 --> 29:46.400
It starts off with Slaw

29:46.400 --> 29:48.400
Slaw actually put in the

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Where these people are from

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First one, Slaw New York

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Matthew Ebel after that from
Nashville

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Then verse two, Holler from
Miami

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May of Oboil from Glasgow

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Chance from Los Angeles

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Then we get the first chorus

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Which is a chance and Slaw will
start that off

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Then you have the whole chorus
joining in

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I think this is like 96 tracks
of chorus

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Verse three, brother love from
New York

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Josh Cruz of cruise box

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He's from Oklahoma City, Kevin
Reeves from Nashville

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Then the chorus again

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Civilist Bitties do the bridge

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Then we go into chorus three

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Chance, Holler

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Oh, I actually has a chance as
woo

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Holler does every day every day

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Brother love, we would never
feel blue

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All these little improvisation
things

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Then Josh Cruz comes back and
then Carmen Tyler from Texas

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Brother love and Josh Cruz again

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Do some improvs

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Then chorus four Jim Fiddler
from Newfoundland

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Brother love

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Lorina Mirei from Miami

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My god, there's so many people
on this

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Let me see if I've got all the
names

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Okay, so then we have the break
down

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God, we're going to put all this
in the show notes by the way

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I'll try my wiki skills at it

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Josh Cruz, Carmen Tyler Kevin
Reeves

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Jim Fiddler, Carmen Tyler
Patricia

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She's a lovely Patricia singing
on the track

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Madsumo from Boston

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Donna Machiocia of Amplifico
from the UK

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Tara Tons Thompson of

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Toronto

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Henta Ellis from the UK George
Rob from Pennsylvania

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Brian Page

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Cheryl B. Engelhart, Pippa
Rogers, Albert Lee Fizz

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from Rotterdam, he's from Skycar

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Jeremy Gale of just Jacob from
Australia

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Carl Cabbage, Sonowari from Rich
Palmer

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Derek Miller from Vancouver

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Franco Franco of a potteness

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from Italy, Franco from Italy

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Sasha Ludwig from Germany

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Oh my god, this just doesn't
stop

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Additional backing vocals

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Orlando Pagan and Kathy Rose

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Drums, George Rob, Victor Kajiao

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Typical user podcast

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Or Sympatico on the podcast

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Music Network did sex

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And slotted piano keyboard

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Bass guitar drum loops

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And slotted piano keyboard bass
guitar drum loops

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And percussion

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Oh my goodness

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Are you guys ready for it?

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Okay, you want to crank this up
as loud as you can

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If every day we're Christmas

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This is pod safe

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For peace

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[ Music ]

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This would be

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You never feel blue

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We make all our dreams come true

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What a wonderful world

36:58.400 --> 37:00.400
Christmas

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What a fantastic song

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Oh man

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That is just it's lovely

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That's really really cool

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And I personally want to thank
everybody

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Who contributed

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To that

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And so the work is only begun
now

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Now it's the podcast

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First of all

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If you work at a radio station

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And somehow

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And somehow

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Almost

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Unthinkable realm of possibility

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You have the opportunity to play
this song

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Please do

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Because all Ask Cat BMI

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And it will be

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If it's not already registered
with Ask Cat BMI

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It will be

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All of those royalties

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That come in from playing on the
radio

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We'll go to Unicef

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We're going to try and get this
on iTunes

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So you can buy it there

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I had a thought of

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Also seeing maybe we created CD

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And put it up at CD Baby

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So you can actually

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Order a physical copy

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And then the proceeds from that

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Of course we'll also go to
Unicef

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Slower's handling all this by
the way

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And I have every

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Every confidence that he's
exactly how to

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How to put all this stuff
together

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In fact here's something
interesting

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He called over to the folks at
Unicef

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And said, Hey, you know, we want
to make sure

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This money comes to you and

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Here's what we're doing

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And their response was

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And I was afraid this was going
to happen

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The response was quite typical

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Well, yeah, you know, but how
much

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How much are you going to
donate?

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We need to know the number up
front

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8 million, 10 million

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Slower's like

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I don't know, you know, maybe a
couple hundred

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If we're lucky a couple thousand

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So

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Unicef

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With any big nonprofit
organization

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I think that their name is
probably

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You so often in vain

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That they're very, very wary of
who they

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Want to team up with. So I don't
think we're going to

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Any direct help from them

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I

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Truly styler

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Does a lot for Unicef

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And I've met her once at a
benefit

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Interestingly enough, I want to
see if

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I can get through to her

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The old back channels are a bit
rusty

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I'll see if I can get through to
her

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And see if we can work something
out

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With Unicef and otherwise, you
know, there's no problem

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And donating the money to Unicef

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You could even do that right now

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You don't even have to do buy
anything

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Just go ahead and send them some
money

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It's all done for love and for
good cause

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And I think it's fantastic

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So podcasters, my call to you

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Is to play the shit out of this
song

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Let's see if we can break it
through

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To to mainstream radio

39:33.400 --> 39:35.400
Wouldn't that be interesting

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Instead of them getting

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Getting play on podcasters

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It's the other way around

39:41.400 --> 39:43.400
And if not, it doesn't matter

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We are all entertaining
ourselves

39:47.400 --> 39:49.400
Daily source code, it is the
Friday edition

39:49.400 --> 39:51.400
Holy shit

39:51.400 --> 39:53.400
Been at this for already 40
minutes

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Michael Butler sent me an email

39:57.400 --> 39:59.400
Yesterday that there's a

39:59.400 --> 40:01.400
Brand new record company that is
adding tracks

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The podsaid music network

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Silk city records, welcome guys

40:05.400 --> 40:07.400
Appreciate it about to eight
tracks up on line now

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It's one of the really liked a
lot

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Robin Banks, someone to talk to

40:11.400 --> 40:13.400
When it's cold at night

40:13.750 --> 46:13.750
[ Music ]

46:15.400 --> 46:18.400
Robin Banks, someone to talk to

46:18.400 --> 46:19.400
Soak city records

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Welcome to the pod safe music
network

46:22.400 --> 46:23.400
And that's about

46:23.400 --> 46:26.400
Excuse me about it for today's
daily source code

46:26.400 --> 46:29.400
Those of you listening to
serious stars

46:30.400 --> 46:32.400
You're probably saying what the
hell is this show been about?

46:32.400 --> 46:34.400
Well, welcome to the world of
pod casting

46:34.400 --> 46:36.400
We're a routy bunch

46:36.400 --> 46:37.400
That's for sure

46:37.400 --> 46:39.400
And remember, if you're looking
for the Kate Winsle of the
Wikipedia

46:39.400 --> 46:42.400
You come to the right place

46:42.400 --> 46:45.400
Alright, so

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I guess I don't know

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Now my whole day is reconfigured

46:49.400 --> 46:50.400
Since I was planning on flying

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I'm gonna see if I can figure
something else out to do

46:53.400 --> 46:55.400
I think I probably have to go

46:55.400 --> 46:58.400
Do some more keyword searches on
technology

46:58.400 --> 47:00.400
See what everyone's saying about
me

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I will say

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In closing

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About all that

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This is exactly

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Like the mainstream media world

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And quote celebrities

47:14.400 --> 47:15.400
What's happening

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It's amazing

47:16.400 --> 47:18.400
It's amazing the attacks that
I'm seeing

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And by the way, people who hate
me for my hair

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Don't hate me for my hair

47:23.400 --> 47:26.400
You know, I've noticed that most
people who make jokes about my
hair

47:26.400 --> 47:27.400
Don't have any hair

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Oh, what was me?

47:32.400 --> 47:33.400
What was me?

47:33.400 --> 47:35.400
I wanted to play one more song

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But I'm gonna cut it short for
now

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I wanted to play Betty by the
list of these bitties

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Because they are without a doubt

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I think they have a break out to
smash with this thing

47:44.400 --> 47:46.400
Everyone seems to be playing it

47:46.400 --> 47:48.400
And reporting back to the pod
safe music network

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So I'll make sure

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Maybe I'll do a show over the
weekend depending on what's
happening

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If not Monday, I'll be sure to
play Betty for you

47:55.400 --> 47:57.400
If I haven't heard it, you can
find it at

47:57.400 --> 47:58.400
Bittiesforever.com

47:58.400 --> 48:01.400
Or, of course, at the pod safe
music network

48:01.400 --> 48:02.400
All right, everybody

48:02.400 --> 48:04.400
I'm out of here

48:04.400 --> 48:07.400
DailySourceCode.com

48:07.400 --> 48:09.400
As we can always find the latest
show

48:09.400 --> 48:12.400
Or curry.com

48:12.400 --> 48:13.400
And Adam at curry.com

48:13.400 --> 48:14.400
Free feedback

48:14.400 --> 48:16.400
And once again, please remember

48:16.400 --> 48:18.400
Don't hate me for my hair

48:18.400 --> 48:21.400
Because I'm evil

48:21.400 --> 48:23.400
Another pod show podcast

48:23.400 --> 48:25.400
Stick it in your ear
