WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.640 Good morning, Adam, Darrell's Chanderow here from blindaccessjournal.com. 00:07.640 --> 00:15.440 Hey, just listen to DSC number two, nine, or one, and notice the missing introductory 00:15.440 --> 00:21.640 heading for the podcast and the explanation as to why you may that change. 00:21.640 --> 00:24.640 I sincerely hope that you will change it back. 00:24.880 --> 00:33.360 I am a blind podcaster and blind listener, and I really, really, really miss that heading. 00:34.000 --> 00:40.240 Verbaly telling me, as I come to your podcast, what, in fact, it is. 00:44.000 --> 00:50.720 Many of us, myself included, formatted the beginning of our shows, 00:50.720 --> 01:02.880 by using DSC as a model, thus the show title and the show number, and really, please, 01:02.880 --> 01:19.600 do not stop that, I'm not able to simply upgrade my eyes to working models, and so upgrading 01:19.680 --> 01:25.280 from a shuffle from an iPod shuffle to something else would not help a blind listener. 01:25.920 --> 01:31.600 Also, other reasons, you know, a lot of people listen to these podcasts while 01:31.600 --> 01:37.200 commuting to work in their cars, wouldn't want to have an accident because somebody was 01:37.920 --> 01:43.040 messing around with their MP3 player looking at it to see which podcast they're listening to, 01:43.040 --> 01:48.720 while the same time trying to drive, so a lot of things to consider there, please, please, please, 01:48.720 --> 01:56.400 do go back to Delta Sierra Charlie, do 9 or 2, and so on and so forth, please, please don't, 01:56.400 --> 02:02.800 don't stop, don't stop doing that, okay, please do us a favor there. Thank you, 02:03.520 --> 02:08.640 keep up the great work, this is Dale Shandra with blindaxisjournal.com, bye bye. 02:18.750 --> 04:23.750 [ Music ] 04:34.640 --> 04:39.280 everybody how you doing welcome it's daily source code it is episode number 04:39.280 --> 04:44.000 two ninety two and today is Tuesday just got back from London town with my 04:44.000 --> 04:52.640 bride thanks to I was it I forget it was a Darren was a Darrell oh man oh 04:52.640 --> 04:55.760 and I have to go check it again the morning at him Darrell Chandler here 04:55.760 --> 05:01.360 Darrell alright Darrell got a couple more comments about the voice tags pretty 05:01.360 --> 05:05.360 much similar to what you just heard oh no tags it's not about iPod shuffle 05:05.360 --> 05:09.360 datum it's about not needing to look at the display whether you're in a car or 05:09.360 --> 05:12.960 just jogging it's much better to hear it like it's great because you can do 05:12.960 --> 05:16.160 something else while getting that information please put the tags back thanks 05:16.160 --> 05:22.080 says grug okay gotcha check mark I just thought I'd change something makes 05:22.080 --> 05:27.280 sound different but now that I think of it it really is kind of important I 05:27.280 --> 05:30.880 guess if you're driving doing other stuff so we had a really good time in 05:30.880 --> 05:34.160 in London we left the early this morning all 10th already that's pretty early 05:34.160 --> 05:38.320 for us to be dressed in out the door outside of need taking Christina to school 05:38.320 --> 05:44.320 of course yeah I get up and I'm ready to go alright no no work needed it was really nice 05:44.320 --> 05:49.440 we took the train to Waterloo Station Patricia and then we hopped in a cab 05:49.440 --> 05:54.320 person went to herids oh man is that place amazing or water Christmas it's just 05:55.120 --> 06:01.680 it's a it's paradise it's beautiful and there's no mad Christmas rush yet I mean I 06:01.680 --> 06:06.160 have not been in London the week before Christmas but it seemed like everyone's kind of 06:06.160 --> 06:09.520 chilling out a lot of stuff was already sold out though people are doing Christmas shopping 06:09.520 --> 06:14.960 early this year in at least at herids then we went over to bond street region street 06:14.960 --> 06:21.840 Oxford street no region street and bond street and new bond street and James street 06:22.000 --> 06:26.480 well we walked all over the place and I really I'm not looking for anything I said hey 06:26.480 --> 06:31.760 if we happen to be in region street we might want to stop in the apple store but somehow Patricia 06:31.760 --> 06:37.360 successfully steered us away from that that of course would be my version of porn man I witnessed 06:37.360 --> 06:46.000 a lot of women porn today just uddles of bags and and bling and shoes and of course the new 06:46.000 --> 06:50.560 thing is these high really tight calf you know boots that go around your calf really tight and 06:51.200 --> 06:56.880 and I said to Patricia I said dude this is porn this is just this women's porn this is what it is 06:56.880 --> 07:01.840 it's just amazing all the fragrances and hadn't been in department store with her in a long time 07:01.840 --> 07:06.000 at least not one where I kind of let her loose and just tagged along behind it was nice you know 07:06.000 --> 07:10.720 I had a nice little buzz going so I'm just tripping along and it was really it was pretty cool it was 07:10.800 --> 07:16.000 good to be in the city just good to get out and good to be alone the two of us just Patricia me 07:16.000 --> 07:22.800 and the blackberry yesterday there was news all over the place even the BBC reported about it 07:23.200 --> 07:29.440 about this outfit called the association of independent I think it's musicians they call it aane 07:29.440 --> 07:35.040 which I think is kind of unfortunate because that in my mind is associated with ale instant messenger 07:35.920 --> 07:42.160 um here it is the association of independent music is selling six month worldwide licensed deals 07:42.160 --> 07:49.200 for its members music to be used on download radio programs great guys the headline is 07:49.200 --> 07:54.720 indie music available to podcasts so I've been I've been watching their site diligently up until the 07:54.720 --> 08:00.080 time that I started doing the show today there've been no official announcement on on the aim website 08:00.160 --> 08:07.520 which is indie music dot com but they are really you know I it's it feels a little fishy to me you know 08:07.520 --> 08:13.040 they they pop the news the BBC publishes everything except of course exact details because it will 08:13.040 --> 08:20.080 be a four pay license and as the as this BBC story says at least and it will also be a limited time 08:20.080 --> 08:24.080 license so I don't know what that means I mean we have to delete the show after six months how much will 08:24.080 --> 08:31.360 it cost I'm all for for paying to play you know that's absolutely you know problem some of the 08:31.360 --> 08:36.400 artists included our block party stereophonics the white stripes the strokes basement jacks Paul 08:36.400 --> 08:42.320 Weller Arctic Monkeys I recognize at least three of those names Richard Thompson Billy Bragg 08:42.320 --> 08:46.240 so that would be very cool but I I really would like to see the details and I'm a little 08:47.440 --> 08:51.600 disappointed that you know they have this heat going and people were talking about it for a second 08:51.600 --> 08:56.240 there and and there's you know they haven't released the entire license I have a feeling that 08:56.240 --> 09:01.360 maybe someone talked a little bit before they were ready to go to market with it all which uh 09:01.360 --> 09:07.440 it's unfortunate but we'll keep our eye on it um something else happened here um by the way this is 09:07.440 --> 09:15.040 UK organization I should point out it's uh organization of uh UK independent record labels and yesterday 09:15.120 --> 09:21.040 the uh Ricky Jervais podcast launched Ricky Jervais if you don't know who that is he's the boss 09:21.040 --> 09:29.040 in the British version of the office and all of a sudden and actually the it kind of been 09:29.040 --> 09:33.280 bubbling under for a while I think what I don't know if he actually he says he's not getting paid for it 09:33.280 --> 09:40.320 but it's being launched by the guardian newspaper uh who do lots of uh actually lots of music licensing 09:40.320 --> 09:46.960 deals very often the the UK tabloids the newspapers will include a CD um with golden oldies or 09:46.960 --> 09:52.080 whatever you know they have a two-volume set so you get one on Saturday and you get one on Sunday I think 09:52.640 --> 10:00.320 yeah um and so this uh Ricky Jervais podcast um was uh or as being promoted through the guardian 10:00.320 --> 10:07.760 online guardian.co.uk I was man I was really disappointed first of all I'm a big fan of Ricky Jervais 10:07.760 --> 10:13.040 but when he's doing the writing himself or when he's not writing what he's just talking um your 10:13.040 --> 10:17.280 expectation is very high you know you're like oh this is gonna be great and he's supposedly had 10:17.280 --> 10:25.920 two of his I was best friend writer comedians on and um it didn't do anything for me um which is 10:25.920 --> 10:29.840 okay because maybe I have to listen to a couple of episodes and he has to come into his own but 10:29.840 --> 10:34.000 I don't know if you know that he used to do a lot of radio work and it almost sounded like he he just 10:34.160 --> 10:42.400 went right back into his BBC radio mode there um so it didn't really compel that much although 10:42.400 --> 10:46.480 they he was very loose and the guys were very loose it you know just kind of talking and shooting 10:46.480 --> 10:52.240 the shit so I did appreciate that but what was disappointing is that Ricky was interviewed um on 10:52.240 --> 10:58.880 ITS I'm on ITV on the afternoon chat show and there were some repeats in the BBC also um 10:59.040 --> 11:05.520 ran a couple of pieces I think during the news and um you know Ricky was sitting there saying well you 11:05.520 --> 11:10.720 know it's so easy even I even I configured out you just to go to a guardian.co.uk and you click and you 11:10.720 --> 11:16.240 listen I was like oh man couldn't someone to brief them a little bit or prepped him just a little just 11:18.880 --> 11:22.560 so it's funny because now the BBC is saying it's the new thing it's podcasting 11:23.280 --> 11:28.400 well the where's the BBC actually were the first mainstream media outlet to jump on the whole idea 11:28.400 --> 11:33.360 and bring it uh to attention of the masses when the culture show I think uh interviewing the 11:33.360 --> 11:39.440 in Belgium we were still at the castle so uh they should have an internal Wikipedia so they know 11:39.440 --> 11:44.640 what they've talked about in the past so Ricky Javez podcasting uh good to have a big name come in 11:44.640 --> 11:49.920 unfortunate that um we couldn't have helped him a little bit with being able to explain what it is 11:49.920 --> 11:54.720 and what the what the real big you know what the real cool things are he did have a lot of it though he 11:54.800 --> 12:00.080 said you know the freedom is great even though he has a lot of freedom with the BBC um but nothing 12:00.080 --> 12:06.000 really about the convenience of it automatically being delivered to your iPod so that was uh that was 12:06.000 --> 12:12.160 too bad but uh I'll give it a I'm subscribed so I'll give it another couple of listens and see if 12:12.160 --> 12:16.000 if anything cool pops up he just has to kind of slip out of the mainstream mode a little bit 12:16.560 --> 12:21.440 hey uh special little feature here we have the strange accents now on the daily source code 12:21.440 --> 12:28.640 hey Adam this is Boris Kojirski from PositivenessAchishay podcast I'm making a new episode about radio 12:29.440 --> 12:38.000 what it was and what it is now I would like you to give an opinion for my listeners what was so 12:38.000 --> 12:46.240 valuable that disappeared and doesn't exist in the radio anymore thanks in advance and best wishes for 12:46.320 --> 12:52.240 all your podcasts whose to part notion of free communication between people yes Boris I will have 12:52.240 --> 12:57.120 the secret code delivered to you or fired a usual means Boris where are you from Ben you sound like 12:57.120 --> 13:05.200 you're from Russia Boris well what was it it was so valuable um a good question you big 13:05.200 --> 13:09.600 would he everyone can listen at the same time I think those were valuable things but what we really 13:09.600 --> 13:14.640 lost clearly and people say this all the time but I really do believe in it we lost the passion we lost 13:14.720 --> 13:20.640 the not everywhere not every show not every radio station but I think we in general lost a lot of 13:20.640 --> 13:26.160 passion we forgot so much about what you can do with audio we've it's almost like for a while 13:26.160 --> 13:32.080 there we believe that iPods really only were from music and you know we then we started to find out 13:32.080 --> 13:36.720 you could do other things with your iPod so the same goes with podcasting there's other things 13:36.720 --> 13:40.640 you can do there's other things you can do with audio I hope to show you some of that very soon 13:41.600 --> 13:46.640 we're working on a couple of shows that we're putting together specifically for podcasting that are 13:46.640 --> 13:55.360 really not the typical podcast that you would hear working on that with Mark I was your motor 13:55.360 --> 14:01.920 name call I said his name right I shouldn't do that too often feeds his ego way too much so we had 14:01.920 --> 14:09.680 Boris from Russia and then in comes Alex and Alex is from Germany and he's he calls himself 14:09.760 --> 14:13.120 just a regular listener but he's been doing some pretty pretty interesting work over there 14:14.000 --> 14:20.560 hi Adam this is Alex from Munich Germany and I want to share with you some short insights 14:20.560 --> 14:27.840 on the German podcast listener if you want to I'm doing a podcast so called come you team intro 14:28.400 --> 14:33.440 with focus on podcasting trends and business marketing and communication since beginning of the year 14:34.000 --> 14:44.480 which is available on www.pimpmybrain.de but sorry to say that it's only German spoken 14:46.240 --> 14:53.840 last October I did a survey on the German podcast listener to learn a little bit more about their age 14:53.840 --> 15:00.640 the gender family status the so called social demographic data and also to learn about their 15:00.640 --> 15:08.240 needs experience regarding podcasts and the use of podcasting in general so now as I mentioned 15:08.240 --> 15:15.440 in my mail here's the pot far the summary the 30 year old mail mostly well educated and wealthy 15:15.440 --> 15:21.040 podcast listener looks forward to a 20 minute weekly entertaining and informative podcast 15:21.600 --> 15:26.960 which he's willing to pay for euros for per month or accepts topic related advertising 15:27.520 --> 15:37.040 he listens 3.6 hours a week and subscribe to 8 podcasts although there are only 11 15:37.040 --> 15:43.520 percent women listening they listen 20 percent more intensive to podcasts up to the age of 30 15:43.520 --> 15:52.960 and 25 percent less intensive above the age of 30 than their mail counterparts so um you can see 15:53.040 --> 15:58.240 we got two very interesting target groups listening to podcasts over here in Germany the one is 15:58.240 --> 16:04.000 male intelligent and the wealthy the others female young and looks for earbird entertaining 16:05.280 --> 16:10.800 sorry to say that there are only 38 percent female singers but 50 percent male but them 16:11.360 --> 16:16.960 that doesn't count anyway I think we are glad about every listener tuning into the 16:17.280 --> 16:23.600 evolution of communication you can I think you can find more details on the results of the survey 16:23.600 --> 16:32.240 on my weblog pimpmybrain.de as mentioned and I will provide a link to the English translated results over there 16:32.800 --> 16:39.200 now that's it from Munich thanks for having me on your show and Merry Christmas to everybody out there 16:39.280 --> 16:48.480 in the potosphere. Throlic of Inahtin hey did it it's pretty interesting um 38 percent women 30 16:48.480 --> 16:56.160 affluent did I hear him say good looking to good looking German chicks oh that's pretty cool I guess 16:57.200 --> 17:02.320 he did the survey amongst just online so it's kind of like an opt-in thing and there's all 17:02.320 --> 17:06.720 bunch of statisticians who will tell you how good that is or not but it sounds about right it certainly 17:07.280 --> 17:13.040 I think there's also how man there's there has to be such a huge Latin market that we haven't 17:13.040 --> 17:18.880 reached yet this uh I'm hearing a couple of countries really bubbling up where podcasting is starting 17:18.880 --> 17:24.960 to work the UK by the way is um I think was a little slower to catch on but um and there may be 17:24.960 --> 17:30.960 less that is for this satisfaction with with the radio here but uh I it's just I get so much 17:30.960 --> 17:35.760 male from UK podcast listeners and and we're thinking of starting a podcast and a lot of it 17:35.760 --> 17:41.600 revolves around music then we have friends I think basically you can say any country um and maybe 17:41.600 --> 17:49.760 this is even a part of it think about it both friends um and Canada uh I know have rules about how 17:49.760 --> 17:55.120 much national product has to be played on the radio so I'm talking about music in this case um 17:55.120 --> 18:01.360 and I think that they're quite high so there's not a lot of um not a lot of Britney Spears 18:01.440 --> 18:06.560 or maybe that's the one uh you know the 20% they can play that's foreign and god imagine all 18:06.560 --> 18:11.520 being Britney Spears so I think it's pretty obvious that podcasting will grow rapidly in uh in 18:11.520 --> 18:17.840 countries like that in Germany I don't know if they have commercial um radio stations I somehow I 18:17.840 --> 18:22.480 don't think so they certainly have a lot of big public infrastructure both for television and for 18:22.480 --> 18:28.560 radio so I think that that'll be a country where it uh where it'll definitely start bubbling up and 18:29.360 --> 18:36.320 there was something interesting in your in your survey there um Kurt was it Kurt Alex why does it 18:36.320 --> 18:40.400 Kurt Alex there was something interesting in your uh in your survey where you said that women 18:40.400 --> 18:47.120 listen more intensely and I was thinking about that the other day this you know when someone listens 18:47.120 --> 18:53.280 to a podcast uh let's just say radio versus podcast but I think that when you actually have the 18:53.280 --> 19:00.560 earbuds stuck in your ears and you're thus blocking out all um all external noise I think there's 19:00.560 --> 19:06.400 there is going to be almost an automatic much higher intensity of listening when you're doing 19:06.400 --> 19:10.480 that versus listening in the radio on the speakers now I know a lot of people listen to podcasts either 19:11.920 --> 19:17.280 with uh you know one of those wires that you hook up from your iPod to a Yucacet player lots of 19:17.280 --> 19:20.720 people burn CDs in fact I've kind of gotten the habit of that I'd like it now that I 19:20.720 --> 19:25.280 didn't know that CDs were that cheap they'd got really really cheap I bought a hundred CDs 19:26.000 --> 19:32.800 for nine pounds no boxes just one of those cylinders and so uh you know it I've always 19:32.800 --> 19:38.160 it's always been difficult for me to toss a mouse you know it's like oh well yeah I'll keep it I'll 19:38.160 --> 19:41.920 just store it I'll file it like I'm ever gonna look at it again at least now I've gotten to the habit 19:41.920 --> 19:48.240 of writing down with the she's been saying oh writing down with the felt stiff pin exactly what it 19:48.320 --> 19:54.800 is uh that's on the task but I do believe that that intensity it just has to be much much more 19:54.800 --> 20:01.680 when you have the shit sticking in your ears which I think uh well what do I think well I don't know 20:01.680 --> 20:08.320 what I think it's good I guess it is good so um Germany keep it coming I've seen a lot of 20:08.320 --> 20:14.960 uh German podcasts ping ping dot indie potter dot com to which an indie potter dot org that's kind of 20:14.960 --> 20:19.760 interesting so there is uh there's definitely a German community seeing the French community we have 20:19.760 --> 20:26.960 the pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom podcast and a couple other ones from France and congratulations 20:26.960 --> 20:32.880 to everybody's favorite bloated Jewish angry lesbian Madge Weiss and Weinstein celebrating 20:32.880 --> 20:38.240 her first year of yeast I think it today could have been yesterday if so then I'm sorry Madge the 20:38.240 --> 20:44.080 present came a little bit late but um happy to uh still be able to listen to you every single day 20:44.160 --> 20:49.520 love the aggregator by the way that whole qpotter dot org that the Madge set up is just phenomenal 20:49.520 --> 20:55.280 and the aggregator is a video podcast aggregator that is just phenomenal you know I um through that 20:55.280 --> 21:01.840 I found uh have you ever seen daily planet TV Lucien? I have no idea what is set up is but it's 21:01.840 --> 21:08.400 a daily planet TV dot net and I I watch them religiously as a short video podcast which really works 21:08.480 --> 21:13.280 for me four or five minutes but he has this super super imposed thing going and it's completely 21:13.280 --> 21:19.520 self supported and he's starting video clips and he's showing you um pictures I'd love to know how 21:19.520 --> 21:25.120 I put that together I'm thinking that he does some of that imposed or in post production I'm not sure 21:25.120 --> 21:32.400 but um what he's got going there is very cool is basically a one-man television shop so uh Lucien 21:32.400 --> 21:42.160 give it up man what's the secret how does it work and um a lot of talk about Wikipedia so it seems 21:42.160 --> 21:49.120 now that after uh several disputes and heated debates over Wikipedia dot org that the rules are 21:49.120 --> 21:54.880 now changing I read actually yeah and I'm not sure what the definitive rules are by now there's so 21:54.880 --> 22:00.240 many uh threads going on about this but I read somewhere that um it is uh I think actually read 22:00.240 --> 22:07.440 on Wikipedia dot org that it is frowned upon to edit your own bio like that doesn't make any sense 22:07.440 --> 22:13.040 I read something in my own bio yesterday which I didn't start on Wikipedia that said that um 22:13.040 --> 22:18.000 I registered MTV dot com in the early days of the web well no that's not true I registered it before 22:18.000 --> 22:22.880 there was a web there was only go for and I set up the go for server in fact the university of 22:22.880 --> 22:31.120 Minnesota um who developed the the go for protocol uh at the time this is a this is an old story 22:31.120 --> 22:35.920 I think I've told this before at the time um they said hey look you know you're using this uh 22:35.920 --> 22:39.440 this mtv dot com that's commercial I said I'm not making any money off it it's only cost some 22:39.440 --> 22:44.400 you money well we still think that you should pay for commercial license which at the time was $5,000 22:44.400 --> 22:49.280 like dude uh uh uh uh first I don't even think I had the money at the time so I don't have five 22:49.280 --> 22:54.480 brand to just spend on a license and you know what am I doing here I'm not using a commercial 22:54.480 --> 22:58.800 manner and so they talked it over and this was really the first time that someone you know outside 22:58.800 --> 23:04.160 of academia had used the go for protocol I guess I guess I can't be too sure but it's certainly 23:04.160 --> 23:09.520 seem like it was new to them and then we finally struck a deal and the somewhere someone has a picture 23:09.520 --> 23:14.880 of this I know it's online we struck a deal that um if I wore a go for a minis you know university 23:14.960 --> 23:20.640 minis sold a go for t-shirt on mtv that they would uh wave the license fee and of course I did it 23:21.200 --> 23:25.440 uh if you have a picture of that that'll be great I'd love to see that again but now it does seem like 23:25.440 --> 23:30.480 the rules are changing another article that someone sent me is that uh one of those two I think 23:30.480 --> 23:36.080 I guess there's two guys who uh who co-founded wikipedia and apparently one of the co-founders has 23:36.080 --> 23:42.880 many many edits uh to his record of editing the history of wikipedia uh at which many points 23:42.960 --> 23:48.560 he's edited his co-founder out and this just brings me to the only thing that uh is really 23:48.560 --> 23:54.000 been on my mind is what is the truth you know the truth is I don't know if there really is a 23:54.000 --> 24:00.240 truth for anything I've I've noticed so many times that um you know even with my wife you know 24:00.240 --> 24:04.960 we'll be talking about something I'll totally believe that that we were talking about the discussion 24:04.960 --> 24:10.880 from one uh point of view a mine of course because I'm the center of my universe and she's the 24:11.040 --> 24:15.360 center of her universe although she's much better at making herself not the center of the universe 24:16.960 --> 24:19.440 um and you know but then you'll find out like oh wait a minute you told it to 24:19.440 --> 24:23.920 understand what I was talking about or or something that'll happen and and I'll recount the events 24:23.920 --> 24:28.560 one way and she'll recount it another way and for her that's the absolute truth and for me it's the 24:28.560 --> 24:33.600 absolute truth you know but there's so much that you don't pay attention to if it's usually 24:33.600 --> 24:39.840 if it's not about you you're not gonna you know notice things is quickly so although I uh I think that 24:39.920 --> 24:43.920 there will be an interesting process that comes out of this I you know just saying this is the 24:43.920 --> 24:49.920 truth and this is the way it is it's a real tough one man it really is so the rules are changing 24:49.920 --> 24:56.160 and uh I guess that proves that for every uh action there's uh there's a complete uh equal and 24:56.160 --> 25:00.640 opposite reactions I guess it was good I think this is all the good thing that maybe we'll figure 25:00.640 --> 25:06.960 out how we make the Wikipedia actually work uh because I do use it often but you know or I used to 25:07.040 --> 25:13.040 use it often and it is a great resource and you know I think in general uh lots of stuff that's in 25:13.040 --> 25:18.240 there is it's pretty much the way it went or the way it was or how it's supposed to be for every one 25:18.240 --> 25:23.280 of the 850 thousand articles but still what is the absolute truth I think that's that's something 25:23.280 --> 25:31.920 really hard um I think the really um yeah what is truth I guess uh uh you can only get truth in 25:31.920 --> 25:38.320 mathematics then I presume or physics I guess I should have paid more attention in school 25:38.320 --> 25:44.320 hey monk remember him from uh invasion of the pod people well he uh sent something to me 25:44.320 --> 25:47.760 which I'd like to share with you right now I'm pretty sure if it's not in the pod safe music 25:47.760 --> 25:54.640 network well he will be putting it up he says I really like that the pod safe release 25:54.640 --> 25:59.040 Christmas tune but let me give you something to really rock your brain too huh just stocking 25:59.040 --> 26:01.040 on monk on the daily source code 26:03.750 --> 28:12.240 [ Music ] 28:12.240 --> 28:29.360 you're stuck in on yeah that's a Christmas gift right there 28:29.360 --> 28:34.880 you hear that? there's damn foxes again I'm telling you it's funny I said that the foxes were 28:34.880 --> 28:39.680 coming closer to civilization last week on the show and I got an email from someone who said 28:39.680 --> 28:43.600 they're not interesting it didn't civilization move into their neck of the woods first 28:43.600 --> 28:51.920 I'm like yeah I guess so but without the excuse me oh man I still have that little bit of the 28:51.920 --> 28:59.200 cough Patricia got the cold now she's completely stuffed up without the fox hunts the foxes 28:59.200 --> 29:04.560 fox eye the foxes have just come much closer to us now and they rummage through the garbage man 29:04.560 --> 29:08.160 it's funny though because foxes are really afraid of humans they're afraid of even 29:08.880 --> 29:14.880 dogs and well dogs depends on how big but they're afraid of cats and I think if they can eat 29:14.880 --> 29:19.040 trash they'll eat trash but they eat worms and nuts and stuff like that it's not exactly 29:19.040 --> 29:23.440 what you think of foxes would be into it's not you know foxes do not regularly it's must be 29:23.440 --> 29:28.560 some kind of fable but from everything I've read it's not like the fox gets into the henhouse 29:28.560 --> 29:33.520 and then eats them all up they're afraid of everything everything that jumps and bounces the fox 29:33.520 --> 29:40.320 will run away from um yeah there's anything I can ask on this show and I immediately get 29:40.320 --> 29:47.920 so many cool comments um I talked about oh the crackling fire log that's what it was 29:49.520 --> 29:56.880 and I got a link here let me see it's uh this is about something called the java log 29:57.840 --> 30:07.040 coffee based log burns cleaner but no Starbucks smell so apparently uh there is a biofriendly 30:07.040 --> 30:14.560 log the java log that is made of primarily coffee beans and produces 85% less carbon monoxide 30:14.560 --> 30:19.840 okay that's not a big deal I mean that'll kill ya but only if you have the windows closed 30:20.800 --> 30:27.920 last year and within 2 million java logs were sold okay I haven't found a place to buy them 30:27.920 --> 30:34.320 over here in the UK but I'll definitely have a look around I'll try it up just to clarify something 30:34.320 --> 30:38.880 I you know not we bought the curry cruiser people are saying that you know I pretended to be a 30:38.880 --> 30:44.480 greenie and I turned out it turns out I'm not well I'm not really the biodiesel thing is just an 30:44.480 --> 30:49.200 experiment I'd really like to try hey it is kind of catching on by the way this biodiesel thing 30:49.280 --> 30:55.280 I'm here in all kinds of you know good good noise from all over the world Volkswagen 30:56.320 --> 31:02.160 their next cars will all be certified to run on biodiesel albeit only 5% biodiesel but still they'll 31:02.160 --> 31:11.440 run on it there's been some reports of more efficient ways to create biodiesel efficiency of 31:11.440 --> 31:18.880 10 to 15% or times 10 or 15 times more efficient in the production of biodiesel biodiesel fuels 31:18.880 --> 31:24.160 so I totally intend on getting and I have a parking space at the condo in San Francisco unused 31:24.160 --> 31:29.440 so if if you're in San Francisco and you have a diesel I don't care what kind of diesel it is 31:30.160 --> 31:35.040 you know it probably the older the crappier the better I would like to buy it from you if it's 31:35.040 --> 31:40.560 for sale and I'm talking about something that just drives right it's got to be street legal or 31:40.560 --> 31:47.200 you know whatever it has to kind of work but I definitely I'm looking for something that we can 31:47.200 --> 31:53.040 just fill up with vegetable oil see how it runs we'll put some big pod show stickers on it yeah 31:53.040 --> 31:58.960 yeah I'll drive that cool and also if you have and here's this is a this is another very serious 31:58.960 --> 32:03.120 request and I know there's lots of graphic designers who listen to this show and maybe 32:03.120 --> 32:08.320 comic-strick blogger could even help with this one you know when Christina got was it was going to 32:08.320 --> 32:13.920 get her tattoo which of course I was against and Patricia said oh well you know let her do whatever 32:14.000 --> 32:17.680 she wants to do it's it's the kids these days I said wow what are you talking about it's a tattoo 32:17.680 --> 32:26.160 dude she's 15 so I lost that battle usually I I do pretty well on the field but I said look if you're 32:26.160 --> 32:30.560 going to get one then I'm going to get one and so I've been thinking for a long time about what kind of 32:30.560 --> 32:35.920 tattoo I want to get and I was thinking maybe a combination of like wings you know like pilots 32:35.920 --> 32:41.760 wings and for my for my upper arm right I like my shoulder or my my ample biceps 32:42.160 --> 32:47.120 pilots wings I don't know what you're going in the in the middle though you know so I kind of want 32:47.120 --> 32:52.560 to represent my passions there so flying and then a microphone would be cheesy but maybe something 32:52.560 --> 33:00.240 that represents you know media or free media or podcasting or whatever it is you know if you 33:00.240 --> 33:05.280 haven't even thought let me know because I'm really looking for some designs at this point I'm 33:05.280 --> 33:10.000 completely convinced I'm going to do it I know who I'm going to have do it for me I just I'm looking 33:10.000 --> 33:18.720 for some designs and another fucking controversies unbelievable um what's this did I have 33:19.280 --> 33:23.920 what is this comment hold on a second let me see I had something oops I had something teed up here I'm 33:23.920 --> 33:28.560 not sure if this was in regards to the feed hijacking hold on let's listen hey Adam this is Darrell 33:28.560 --> 33:35.440 Fallen over law school podcast calm was listening to your DSC 289 actually stopped this so I could 33:35.440 --> 33:41.920 record this message to you it's now creating a domain name I have my own domain name of course 33:41.920 --> 33:49.920 and our seat oh and so this is this was kind of a lead into the to the feed hijacking now here's 33:49.920 --> 33:53.680 what's interesting about this and and I thought it was kind of dying down but it seems like it is 33:53.680 --> 34:00.720 not gone away yet and I know these two guys one guy from the vegan cast and one guy from pod pod 34:00.720 --> 34:06.960 keywords.com I believe both of them started on podcasting pretty early but there's this huge 34:06.960 --> 34:11.920 riff that is that is come up I think mainly because there's a little bit of a lack of understanding 34:11.920 --> 34:17.440 what's happening and how pod key works and how feed caching works and you know and I think we could 34:17.440 --> 34:22.320 probably see the same misunderstanding with feed burner and I know we've seen this misunderstanding with 34:22.320 --> 34:28.560 iTunes where was I just I just did I just hear a podcast or just that was I listening to 34:29.520 --> 34:34.720 was I watching some oh no it was rocket boom that's right Amanda from rocket boom was saying 34:34.720 --> 34:39.920 that iTunes was considering changing the way they deal with RSS feeds I don't know what it means 34:39.920 --> 34:44.320 but I'll definitely try and get some info from from from the campus for you to find out what's going on 34:46.400 --> 34:52.320 and so the I guess it really the heart of the matter here is two issues one 34:52.560 --> 35:00.800 that is probably not a good idea to replicate your podcast feed anywhere else that you don't 35:00.800 --> 35:07.840 have control over over the server so in essence that's like creating a Microsoft Word document 35:07.840 --> 35:13.680 but letting someone else make a copy of it and then distribute it even if that's what you agree to it's 35:13.680 --> 35:17.760 still is not a good idea I mean there's a whole bunch of things that can go wrong in the process 35:17.760 --> 35:21.840 and why would you you know why wouldn't you just send that word document directly to someone so 35:21.840 --> 35:26.960 that's the one part is the caching now of course there's a huge marketing opportunity in there 35:26.960 --> 35:31.520 which is I think what what keywords was initially invented for but I don't think there was ever 35:31.520 --> 35:38.560 business model put around it and I've never really been a fan of keywords myself you remember we 35:38.560 --> 35:44.080 had that whole um that whole craze was that with netscape you could buy keywords and you could just 35:44.080 --> 35:48.240 type into your into your browser window instead of a URL you just type maybe that's still works I 35:48.240 --> 35:55.760 wonder if that works with one on a second um let's see let's just take a random keyword the 35:55.760 --> 36:02.400 random keyword would be sex because I'm sure if it has keywords enabled it'll get it and it goes to 36:03.280 --> 36:17.360 sxetc.org a website by teens 14's that's fantastic oh my god oh my god okay sex et cetera 36:19.440 --> 36:23.120 so that's I type that in Firefox that's pretty interesting what if I just do 36:23.840 --> 36:33.040 what should we do travel that's another general keywords what happens if I I wonder if keywords 36:33.040 --> 36:38.080 travel loss that is where it goes to that's interesting so are there still keywords available 36:38.080 --> 36:43.920 in in browsers well anyway that's where the the pod key I think that I believe the pod key idea 36:43.920 --> 36:51.360 came from so there's that issue and then there's really the issue of um was there a 36:52.320 --> 36:59.040 ransom a real hijacking you know I guess if it working back from the so many memes in this 36:59.040 --> 37:06.080 hijacking of feed and asking a ransom these are pretty strong words but the meme is definitely 37:06.080 --> 37:10.880 caught and I think that I may be partially to blame because I played an audio comment from the vegan 37:10.880 --> 37:18.720 cast podcaster who who talked about this and now I was sent a file of the David Lawrence show which is 37:18.720 --> 37:24.400 also I think it might be on the radio but certainly a podcast interview with the uh with the I'm 37:24.400 --> 37:31.920 just using their their show names okay uh using I had an interview with the the podcast keyword 37:31.920 --> 37:40.000 dude and completely different viewpoint so I think that the controversy will continue for a while 37:40.800 --> 37:45.920 but now I think it's just gotten personal and I think it's uh we should try and focus on the actual 37:46.000 --> 37:53.760 issue which is you know how do we make sure that this stuff um doesn't happen um and the the number one 37:53.760 --> 38:01.200 way is to I guess you know before it's way too late is to you know figure out what best way to set 38:01.200 --> 38:06.080 up your feed because your feed really is quite important and so to answer the question for that comment 38:06.080 --> 38:11.040 that was that I started to play just before I got into this whole thing I believe that the really 38:11.120 --> 38:17.040 the true way to do it is to register a domain name so that you can change the DNS to any server you 38:17.040 --> 38:24.640 want and then um yeah then basically you have control over your RSS feed um but you'll still need 38:24.640 --> 38:30.960 control over the server that it resides on and you'll need control over the DNS um which is a domain 38:30.960 --> 38:35.840 name issue so really I think if you put those two things together that's we know so it's much better 38:35.840 --> 38:43.200 to be uh atomspodcast.com and then I can put anything behind that to be my RSS feed then it's to be 38:43.200 --> 38:50.000 atomspodcast.odio.com more atomspodcast.podshow.com for that matter um now I happen to control the 38:50.000 --> 38:57.200 DNS on pod shows I'm not too worried about it last night we had the um the final episode of I'm a 38:57.200 --> 39:03.440 celebrity get me out of here the UK version and as I predicted as I'd hoped uh Carol Thatcher 39:03.520 --> 39:10.640 mother to the iron a daughter to the iron lady herself um one and it was it was just a really 39:10.640 --> 39:19.040 interesting um series to watch I really enjoyed the personalities uh I didn't know any of them really 39:19.600 --> 39:25.280 was great to um kind of get to know Jimmy Osman who I knew as a little Jimmy Osman the long-haired 39:25.280 --> 39:32.320 lover from Liverpool um Sherri a cido one who uh thank you podcast Paul yeah it's said is uh it 39:32.400 --> 39:36.000 couldn't be more cocky you're right I guess and he used to play an East Enders go figure the 39:36.000 --> 39:43.040 show I watch almost religiously uh so Sherri said and Carol were the the three finalists and um it was 39:43.040 --> 39:47.280 I don't know it was you know what it was it was no controversy or I should take controversy 39:47.280 --> 39:53.920 no controversy at all in uh in the show um this series but what there was it was a real um human 39:55.280 --> 40:01.600 mutual respect and um and helpfulness and there was just something really beautiful going on and I'm sure 40:01.680 --> 40:05.280 that the producers of the show were saying you know damn it you know we don't have any any spark 40:05.280 --> 40:10.080 there's nothing going on here no one's fighting no one's angry but uh maybe that's exactly why I was 40:10.080 --> 40:17.120 able to look to really watch the whole thing was just good and um uh and I think that Carol Thatcher 40:17.120 --> 40:23.040 will be uh a very interesting uh new voice on the scene uh because of course now uh should be uh 40:23.040 --> 40:28.640 bustle through the entire media gateway and should be talking to everybody about everything uh and 40:28.640 --> 40:33.200 I think she'll do fine it's just it's wonderful to listen to her just listening to her talk is so nice 40:34.400 --> 40:38.240 um you can tell that she's been in basically and yeah I just had a great upbringing 40:39.200 --> 40:46.720 her vocabulary is incredibly expensive and you know she will never answer a question where yes or no 40:46.720 --> 40:53.280 she'll she'll just come out with a whole slew of beautiful words that like oh yeah read the yellow 40:53.360 --> 41:01.200 pages to me Carol please wonderful congratulations speaking of that according to Oxford's new dictionary 41:02.400 --> 41:09.600 word of the year it's podcast let's check in with Heather and Jenelle so one thing Jenelle and I 41:09.600 --> 41:17.760 totally agree on is that we love to argue oh very true okay when I think of voice I think uh drama 41:17.760 --> 41:24.560 I like my boyfriend almost so it's more fun today it's so much less drama yeah definitely so go 41:24.560 --> 41:28.240 to our site down those that ask me a dot com and tell us if you're going to type that 41:28.240 --> 41:33.040 the first steady boyfriend or dating a bunch of guys download with Heather and Jenelle is 41:33.040 --> 41:36.560 sponsored by Accu view brand contact lenses for the life of your eyes 41:36.560 --> 41:47.040 all right this is PW Fenton creator of digital flotten and I'm here to wish a happy 41:47.040 --> 41:55.520 quanza happy hannaca happy christmas and to all podcast listeners a very happy December 42:04.800 --> 42:11.760 we back when when we didn't have to think come on until we take the boys on the bottom 42:11.840 --> 42:20.400 meaning on on the banks of chubcry we're not happy stop that oh you can 42:20.400 --> 42:28.720 ruin it let me alone woman this is and from the chubby cheek show chubcry hello kid I want to speak to 42:28.720 --> 42:36.240 Anne it's Anne it's Adam and Murray it's Adam Curry hi it's a chubcry whatever Adam Curry for 42:36.240 --> 42:42.320 anyway I've been listening to your show I actually sound like a wounded cat 42:42.320 --> 42:48.000 it's awful anyway I'm talking to Anne and there's something wrong with your voice you don't 42:48.000 --> 42:52.400 sound normal because it's not and I gotta tell you that I don't want to I've been listening to 42:52.400 --> 43:00.960 your show on the eye pocket it's an eye pocket I'm gonna tell you I love the music that 43:00.960 --> 43:08.640 you're saying but I wish you put more of the your old songs like snowbird on the show and 43:08.640 --> 43:14.000 uh you know and I'm gonna listen it but it takes hours and hours to listen and you all you're 43:14.000 --> 43:19.680 talking about is your smash up senior there's no more people that put vegetables in your car 43:20.720 --> 43:26.320 and an a waitin for you to get to the point why do you gonna get to the point I want to know 43:26.960 --> 43:34.800 what's the source code what are you gonna tell me anyway I've got I haven't got time for this so 43:34.800 --> 43:40.240 anyway I'm not buying another Anne Murray album and to curry until you reveal the source code 43:40.240 --> 43:45.120 and you don't have to do it every day there can be like a weekly somebody shoot while you're at it you can 43:45.120 --> 43:57.920 visit the chubby cheek show chubby cheek dot com hi I do an atom to stay down from madpod dot 43:57.920 --> 44:03.120 com and since you can't play the the old hit test and stuff because of the music stuff going on 44:03.120 --> 44:09.920 I thought I'd come up with the new DSC Adam Curry voiceover hit test see if you didn't recognize 44:09.920 --> 44:19.920 your voice backwards here we go with number one number two 44:21.920 --> 44:29.920 number three and you get a bonus number four is it safe I do like the coffee he does 44:29.920 --> 44:38.160 like the coffee all right well time for the answers here we go with answer number one 44:38.160 --> 44:45.920 my foot is wrapped up before they're number two pod people take an over answer number three 44:45.920 --> 44:52.160 I did it I did a family would I said right and the bonus track once again is insane I do like 44:52.160 --> 44:58.720 the coffee all right that is the first DSC voiceover hit test hope you enjoyed it don't forget 44:58.720 --> 45:06.480 the tune in to this week we have Nick Gilder hot child in the city it started with an old 45:06.800 --> 45:14.080 wardrobe four children opened its door and found much more than coats and mothballs 45:15.680 --> 45:20.000 beyond the wardrobe there's a world of adventure mystery and magic 45:25.840 --> 45:31.440 join me as I take you to the kingdom of Nanya to explore the hidden secrets of the lion 45:31.520 --> 45:38.160 the witch in the wardrobe you've read the books you've seen the movie now it's time to subscribe 45:38.160 --> 45:45.040 to the secrets of Nanya a new series of podcasts by father Rodrige find it on iTunes or 45:45.040 --> 45:49.280 surf through the Star Quest podcast network on sqpn.com 45:52.000 --> 45:55.920 and Rodrige starts a new show every month it seems like 45:56.800 --> 46:06.080 oh man it's so good to have him around but I'm subscribed father f f to the r f to the r father to the 46:06.080 --> 46:13.600 roaderick from the Netherlands to wind it down today a couple of things about the the man the evil 46:13.600 --> 46:22.320 man the r i a a a they sent a letter out nay not a not a letter a warning to David Bern this link has 46:22.320 --> 46:26.160 been circulating around the net for a little while so you may have seen it if not I'm sure 46:26.160 --> 46:33.200 it'll show up in the show notes show notes that info of course you can find a link from daily 46:33.200 --> 46:38.720 source code dot com a curry dot com David Bern of the talking heads wrote on his website David 46:38.720 --> 46:44.160 Bern dot com the r i a a a should me a warning based on a previous radio playlist he does a 46:44.160 --> 46:49.440 streaming station online that featured all missiele at all the time the digital millennium copyright 46:49.440 --> 46:55.120 act the mca which was passed by congress 1998 was a hastily thrown together measure in my opinion 46:55.120 --> 46:59.840 which aim to protect the music industry from the impending apocalypse well some parts of the 46:59.840 --> 47:04.400 law seem reasonable other aspects when someone overboard to protect the interest of the industry before 47:04.400 --> 47:10.160 folks even knew what would be developed invented or what half the terms actually meant and this is a 47:10.160 --> 47:17.120 really good piece that that I encourage you to read because you're going to see here um what really 47:17.280 --> 47:22.720 this digital millennium copyright act meant at the time and it was if you really read to the 47:22.720 --> 47:27.520 DMCA I hope we can get a link to that in the show notes as well you'll see that all these little 47:27.520 --> 47:34.240 stipulations are in there so literally um according to the DMCA which applies to streaming only 47:34.240 --> 47:42.320 not to podcasting but to streaming you cannot play more than I believe it's four um tracks by the 47:42.320 --> 47:48.960 same artist back to back from the same CD because otherwise people might be ripping it off and 47:48.960 --> 47:53.920 there's a whole bunch of really weird stipulations in there by the way if you know um if you call 47:53.920 --> 47:58.000 the record company and say hey can I get a waiver for that they can issue that you know you can issue 47:58.000 --> 48:01.600 that right over the phone so you don't have to deal with it I think that that happens at some of 48:01.600 --> 48:06.080 the satellite stations certainly on this one that you may be listening to this podcast if you are 48:06.080 --> 48:14.480 checking us out on serious satellite stars 103 um stay tuned Pacific Coast hellway is coming 48:14.480 --> 48:20.480 up right after this followed by uh Madge Weinstein with East Radio Don and Drew then we have 48:20.480 --> 48:25.840 attention tech um I don't know if we have PW Fenton on tonight or certainly some McCool 48:25.840 --> 48:30.880 Podsake music after that so those of you listening on serious I will uh see you tomorrow here on 48:30.880 --> 48:36.880 the source code and those of you listen to the podcast here comes the bonus piece this is where 48:36.880 --> 48:42.160 we get to talk a little bit longer so let me just see if there's anything else cool in this um 48:43.200 --> 48:56.080 well let's just say here uh you cite Lawrence Lessick's book free culture uh here's something 48:56.080 --> 49:00.080 to come back in the day I use my boombox to tape things off the radio all the time that's how I found 49:00.080 --> 49:04.080 out about music I didn't know about and eventually I not only bought those records but ended 49:04.080 --> 49:08.800 up promoting them too which made a fair amount of money for some record labels but not for me 49:08.800 --> 49:16.800 not complaining though so you know read that and then you'll see how really broken the the DMCA is 49:17.680 --> 49:22.400 and of course the fact that we don't have anything in place for podcasting which I like I really do 49:22.400 --> 49:29.040 I'm glad they can't classify I can't figure out what to do with us um and ask God be in my 49:29.040 --> 49:34.240 of very very helpful really like it when it comes to the music licensing because as far as I can tell 49:34.240 --> 49:39.440 so so far really the only performing rights organizations that will allow their the podcasters 49:40.240 --> 49:47.200 sorry allow artists to uh to assign um specific licenses for performance uh to individuals or 49:47.200 --> 49:58.160 groups and um Mark Zeta sent me an email uh see he's from Australia so what are we had now we've 49:58.240 --> 50:04.320 had Austria friends Germany the Netherlands now we're in Finland we've had uh this is Australia 50:04.320 --> 50:10.240 they have uh the APRA which is the Australian equivalent to ask at BMI um he's quoting from the 50:10.240 --> 50:15.360 website when you become a member of the APRA you assign your performing rights in all existing 50:15.360 --> 50:20.800 and future works to us this is the right to perform the work in public and the right to communicate 50:20.800 --> 50:25.440 the work in public when we administer these rights on your behalf this means we enter licensed 50:25.520 --> 50:29.920 agreements for the performance and communication of music and lyrics we monitor the use of music 50:29.920 --> 50:34.640 under these agreements and distribute the royalties we collect the copyright owners whose material 50:34.640 --> 50:40.960 is identified as having being used so Mark feels that that translates to that if you join 50:40.960 --> 50:46.000 APRA your whole performance rights as an artist go to them that that's exactly what it states 50:47.280 --> 50:55.120 and it seems to be that uh in Europe uh this is the case as well so um if you're a musician if you're an 50:55.200 --> 51:00.560 artist uh in Europe uh or in Australia the countries that we've been through so far if not check it 51:00.560 --> 51:06.160 out your local rights organization if you're a member if what you've done is actually signed your 51:06.160 --> 51:10.800 rights over then I think that yeah I think there's an issue I wonder by the way can you as a 51:10.800 --> 51:15.280 European artist can you just sign up with ask at BMI and won't they collect from in Europe for you 51:15.280 --> 51:19.440 doesn't it is not how it works or could you do it through a US company something's got to give 51:19.440 --> 51:24.720 because you know this isn't the pod save music revolution is not going to make it just 51:24.720 --> 51:32.400 based on US music alone we really need music from all over the globe some I picked up for PMN 51:33.920 --> 51:40.320 some totally different kind of like uh early 80s kind of discoy funk vibe 51:41.200 --> 51:45.760 dread days as one's called Love Life 51:46.250 --> 55:06.250 [ Music ] 55:08.000 --> 55:10.000 You know what I mean? Kind of the early 80s like 55:10.000 --> 55:12.000 Shack attack type day 55:14.000 --> 55:18.640 Love life and life would love you some true words right there 55:19.600 --> 55:21.600 Everybody so 55:21.600 --> 55:25.800 Take care of yourself. Don't let your feet get hijacked until we see you again my friends 55:29.000 --> 55:31.000 I didn't know there was an ending to that 55:32.400 --> 55:34.400 I was just gonna say wouldn't it be we should do 55:36.640 --> 55:39.600 Like a mainstream news media story, you know like 55:41.000 --> 55:43.000 RSS feeds hijacked 55:48.000 --> 55:50.000 Then again, maybe not 55:50.000 --> 55:54.400 Hey tomorrow's Wednesday will be at the hump. I will gladly see you there to care everybody 55:58.000 --> 56:02.400 Pot show the rate no party like a pot show party