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16 million dollars worth of
airplane strapped to my ass,
then the next generation

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radio content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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Since a share of Charlie 3-0-4,
I've got this pot show, breaking
out a fat sack of the good

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stuff.

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[ Music ]

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I'd put this up right there with
the love

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Kevin Reeves, shine

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Hey everybody, it's Friday

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It's December 23rd

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It's going to be a free wheelen
kind of show

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Since there's no satellite
broadcast

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So it's just us amongst
ourselves here

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No one else is listening in

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I'm really getting into this
whole vibe of

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Beyond just the pod save music
network

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Now the social network is
starting to connect

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So slow sent, you know, slow,
right?

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He wrote that co-wrote and
produced

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If every day we're Christmas

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Pod save for peace, fantastic
project

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Which I'm going to play later on
this show as well

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He sent me an email

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After I played Kevin Reeves
yesterday on the show

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And he says, well, of course,
you'll recognize that Kevin

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Sing several lines in pod save
for peace

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By the way, Kevin's album was
the project I was working on

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When I dropped everything to
re-record

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If every day we're Christmas for
pod save for peace

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Now that P for P stuff is
settling down

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I really wanted to finish shine
for Kevin to have

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Available for Christmas and glad
you liked it

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Trying to get the rest of it
done for me

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January. Now, slow didn't ping
me about this at all

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I found this through those
emails

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That I told you about that I
received from

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Another podcast from the
audience of this other podcast

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So here's how the social network
start to connect

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From what was it? The podcast is
called No Holds Bar

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So I got a message from

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What is it? Fibreo

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Fibreo? Does that sound right?

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Fox start India Bravo Romeo
Alpha India Oscar

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I'm the host of No Holds Bar
radio

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Well, one of them just heard
yeah, I subscribed to haven't
listened to it

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And of course he says I just
heard the show you mentioned us

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And I'm grateful for the mention
yeah, the show is three hours
long

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I know it's tough to get into
but well worth it

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Of course he says I know him a
bit biased

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It's not a college radio show
though

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That's what I thought it was so
I was wrong

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We are one of eight shows on a
network that I started

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That broadcast on the internet

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I think they've been doing it
for about six years

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That's NHBradio.com

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Kevin Reeves the guy who wrote
Shine is a member of our staff
and a cohost

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Of one of the other shows

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So now another network has
formed right before my very eyes

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Because it turns out that

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Well, SLOW is legally blind

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I think Kevin Reeves is also
blind

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And if I'm not mistaken

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There's also another guy in No
Holds Bar radio

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Who's blind? I don't know

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And I feel left out got damaged

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But it's so cool how you know
you're interfacing with people
and finding people

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And the internet is just a
magical place

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Isn't it shit just kind of
bubbles up the stuff that you're
looking for

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It's just it kind of appears and
people send you stuff

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And it works it works it works
it works it works it works

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Let's celebrate that today

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Loving it so now we just got to
get the pod save music network
more accessible

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I know I know Chris Rockwell is
all over it

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Oh man we've got so many things
going on there

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Well we've been working on on

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Oh you know I'll say that for
let me see

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Well actually have a whole

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PDN PM in thing I want to talk
about

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I'll talk more about the pod
take music network later first

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Yesterday I was home

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What was I doing I was I was
like conference calls

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And we're just doing regular
like office guy stuff

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And the Patricia comes in I can
see on her face

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That you know something's up

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I think I was on with Ron I said
well hold on a second

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And I said when you know what's
going on you say well

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Dad just had a minor stroke

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Oh man when it rains it pours

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He's okay

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They call it a Tia

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As in tango india alfa

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Which I'm not quite sure what it
stands for but it's like a
miniature aneurysm

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So maybe the A is for aneurysm

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Apparently he keeled over while
sitting behind this computer of
course

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That's my destiny

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This is not the first time he's
had a

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Had one of these he had another
one

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About six months ago so there
are all kinds of warning signs
of shit going wrong

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My dad and I don't have the best
of

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Relationships in fact we've
barely spoken for years

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Maybe an email or a phone call
or something

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But we you know this just a
connection problem there which
is

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This I don't I think the source
code is not in the place to get
into that

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But oh man how fucking weird is
it?

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You know

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So soul searching to do here on
this side

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Okay, so anyway, I still want to
celebrate all the great things
the internet has brought us on
this a beautiful Friday

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Who did I see I got a remember I
played Sean more Malo?

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Yeah, I think the I mean more
Malo. Yeah, that's the way you
pronounce it

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So I got an email from Laura

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Let me see I think Laura is what
did she do

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Let's read the email here

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I wanted to let you know the
Sean more Malo I was seeing Sean
she says has seen a substantial
increase in sales since
uploading is music to the pod
sake music now working

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August sales reports come
through CD baby dot com or
delayed so sales that were
completed in October

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Sean is just starting to get
sales reports and payments for
now. You played Sean on November
18

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So I'm curious to see the impact
of that

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And then she says PM into where
I would be down for that
struggle

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I think that we'll be doing all
kinds of cool. You know what
this is the time to talk about
the pod sake music network. So
here's

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Here's the thing that

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That we're working on so you
know that we're we're
implementing a payment system

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Hold on a second

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You know Sean sent me this. I'm
on as we'll do this. Hey, this
is Sean more Malo and you're
listening to the daily source
code with the pod

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Adam Curry. All right, more
Malo. Sorry about that Sean but
you did again

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Okay, so we're implementing

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Commerce on the pod sake music
network. Now there's the
traditional way you go, which is
with a credit card or PayPal or
combination

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There are you know we have you
basically select whatever
payment credentials you want to
put in

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But what I've really been all
over and what I think is the
right way to go looking at the
audience from music and for the
the impulse buy of this purchase

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Is to do it through SMS very
much. You know text messaging is
what it's called in the states
the rest of the world calls it
SMS

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It's just like when you vote for
American Idol

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You cast your vote you send a
text message to a certain number
with the with the number of your
favorite potential idol

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And it cost you like 99 cents.
Well, duh. Hey, wait a minute.
It gets charged right to your
phone bill. This is fantastic
because this way you don't lock
out just so many people who

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Aren't able to put down a credit
card particularly kids and kids
like to buy music. You know,
does it make any sense that

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If you have to have a credit
card to buy music on the iTunes
music store and you can't get
that from your parents. I'm not
given my daughter my credit card

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And my iTunes music account no
way. Yeah, I can gift her stuff
sure, but you know no way just
no way

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But every kid has a cell phone
and every kid, you know loves to
buy music and they want to buy
music if they can't then what's
the logical response

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They're going to go rip it off
from somewhere duh

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So they do like the ease of use
now the problem with this almost
second. I have a lovely cup of
sense say I'll brew it up here
for me

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Hmm

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The problem with this

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Is that

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The carriers the phone companies
like Verizon and

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Team mobile and you know all the
cellular carriers

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They take

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45 to 50 percent of the money

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So if you were to charge 99
cents per song

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Almost half of it goes to the
carriers right away now of
course that is negotiable if you
know if we have like American
idol like

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Traffic happening. I'm sure that
we can negotiate that down, but
that's basically what it would
start off with so

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You know, I know there's lots of
people who are very smart
listening to this show

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And if you have any information
about getting a better deal or

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Just any I don't think it's
there. I mean, this is really
the monopoly of the

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Cell phone carriers

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And that's probably just the
only way we can go. I mean, I
can see maybe doing a double
offering where if you want you
can

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Pay with a credit card and then
we'll make sure that the balance
goes to the artist

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So you know obviously pod show
needs to take some money for the
for the processing, but I'm
looking more like what CD baby
does

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You know, they seem to do a
pretty fair deal. So I think

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If it all works, then we all
make out because we'll do it on
humongous volume. It'll be
beautiful

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But so the question is, you
know, do we also offer an
alternative to buy for 99 cents
knowing that

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Basically everyone gets ripped
off in the process by the cell
phone carrier and I have to say

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You know, there is a lot going
on on their end. There's the
whole processing. They're
deducting it from a phone bill

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And you're doing, you know, they
are doing some stuff there, but
at the end of the day, it's
software that's just running and
you're just being overcharged
for it

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Really how long until their
investment is out or they can
pull their investment out or
they just using perhaps their
monopoly position

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But personally, I think that we
should offer offer it two ways.
I'd love to hear your feedback
on that

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Because I love the ease of use
of text messaging, but you know,
really hate the fees that are
just being taken away

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So there you go. Okay, onward
with the show

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I'd asked many of you to
recommend songs to me that of
course is how I came across
Kevin Reeves and got an email
here from deliberate noise

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Better known as Derek as a
musician from Detroit called
Nadir

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And the song I dig is called
Slave and Derek sent me a link
to Nadir's page on the pod save
music network

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Which of course we'll put into
the show notes, not I
personally, but you will

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And I checked it out and you
know what dude, I told you like

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[ Music ]

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Blair in a way on the speakers
and she went, yeah, there you
go, Nadir. I don't want to be

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slaved to you from his distorted
soul to point OCD from the
Podsate Music Network.

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Just staying on the PMN for a
second, Adrina Thorpe, who you
know from Fly Fly Fly,

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which I played the other day on
the show, said Adam, thank you
for playing my songs

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from time to time. The whole pod
thing is crazy cool. I just put
my stuff up here

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up there on Podsate. Next thing
I knew I was getting played all
over on on your show,

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which I know is massively
downloaded on the daily basis.
And I listened like, and then I
can

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see why she said, that's so
nice. Thanks for playing me. And
for that lovely intro, you gave

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me. I said, the golden older of
Podsate Music. That was
hilarious. She says, who would
have

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thought. She sees that she says
that she has seen a direct
correlation between what she

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called pod plays and sales.
Although she notices something
else that, and she talks about

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download. So I'm going to say
that's probably paid downloads
from somewhere. The more the,

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now, let me see if I can
understand what she's saying
here. It seems that less
downloads on

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the songs I offer on the Podsate
Music Network than the ones that
aren't there. If everybody

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likes freebies, I'll probably
take a few songs down from
there. I have six up right now.
I wonder,

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I see, I think that as
independent artists, Podsate
artists become more and more,

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their own little companies,
their own record companies,
essentially, because you have
everything within

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your power. We're going to see a
lot more analysis done on what
works and what doesn't work.

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And so a dream is already
thinking that way. I'm not quite
sure what the correlation is.
And if

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maybe more tracks, oh man, it's
not sale. Maybe more tracks on
PMN leads to album sales,

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the CD sales, and we got to get
merchandise up there. It just,
it doesn't stop. And also,

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we really need to get some tools
for independent artists to
promote themselves to the pod

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castors. I've been receiving a
couple of emails, actually, from
artists saying, hey, I think my
song

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will fit on your show. We listen
to it, and they give me a link
to the PMN, and it can link

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right into my playlist. But
there's no real uniform way
that's being sent. There's no
eye-catching

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thing. We'd have four gigs of
Gmail crap stored up here, and
more and more piloting in every

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single day. So maybe some tools
there to promote it, because I
go back to the simple numbers,

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if you have a thousand podcasts,
and that's only a tenth of what
people claim there's out there

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today, which is 10,000, although
I'm sure we're around 15 to 20
now. If a tenth of that,

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one thousand podcasts, with an
average of a thousand listeners,
plays your song within a week,

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that's a million spins. That's
unbelievable. You're going to
sell off of that. There's just
no

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way that it just, that's, all
the proof is right here. I love
it. I love it. And thank you,

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Adryna, for sending, for sending
in that wonderful email. We'll
talk a little bit more about

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the blank media tax, and
performance rights in other
countries all on today's show.

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Adam, under November 20th, I had
the idea to do the Mad Money
Machine podcast.

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I got a microphone, a mixer, and
audio software. Got the domain
name. Learned how to set

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up the blog and website and
feed, wrote up the first show
notes. I got some music from the

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Podsake Music Network. I
produced the show, the artwork,
the ID3 tags, uploaded the show,

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a notified various podcast
directories. Well, by December
22nd, just 32 days since the
idea first

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flashed in my mind, my podcast
has already made it to number 8
in the iTunes Business category,

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32 days, and I'm in the top 10.
Adam, just two words. Thank you.
I started listening to your show

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at about the SC197 and have a
missed one since. You have most
definitely been the inspiration

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to do this, and I thank you. The
Mad Money Machine podcast is
simply about my passion

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to help people invest wisely.
Among other things, on each show
I'll review the performance of

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the stockpicks from CNBC's most
watched show, Jim Crammer's Mad
Money. The podcast also provides

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lots of other investment
insights and tools, including a
special segment called new
money,

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at the end of the show for
beginning investors or even
kids. So check it out at
madmoneymachine.com.

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Yo, a guy growing bow. Thank you
very much. Okay, let me just
talk about advertising and
podcast.

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I know that you heard the Earth
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and we're really happy that
Earth

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Link is sponsoring actually
pretty big portions of the pod
show podcast network.

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Just wanted to give you some
grand vision, because of course,
that's still a standard spot,

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and it's a very standard
radio-like way. Of course, if we
wind up recreating radio, but
leaving

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advertising the same, then I
think we've pretty much failed.
There's still going to be a
healthy

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mix of the old school stuff
where we figure all of this out,
so I think that as we work
together

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on figuring out what works, but
I do want, I just want to stop
briefly and just let you know

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what the grand vision of it is,
and we've talked about this
before, but I want to reiterate,

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and the reason why I want to
read, the reason why I want to
reiterate that is because I
heard

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my partner Ron Bloom saying the
same thing, and when I've known
him for a long time, and when we

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start saying the same thing,
then we're on the right track,
then we're working, and it goes,

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it's not like any secret
handshake or agreement, and it
works vice versa.

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And I think the concept of
winding up where actually,
because remember, this is not if
we recreate

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radio, or the entertainment VM,
I don't see the podcast as
radio, because I know we'll talk
about

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that a bit in a second, but if
we were to recreate it and we
come right back to the way that

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radio charges, namely the CPM,
or the cost per mill, in other
words, the dollar amount you pay

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per thousand listeners reached,
which is anywhere between five
and twenty five dollars per

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thousand people that you reach,
those are radio prices these
days, then we've failed as well.

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So, you know, taking into
account that even if you have 10
listeners, those listeners have

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a special connection between
themselves amongst themselves
and the podcaster, or the
podcasters,

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or the host, or the producers of
the show, and that connection is
what we're out to prove

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is extremely valuable, and it's
our belief that we can manage
advertising campaigns well
enough

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that the actual advertisers will
have to audition in a number of
ways, including price,

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to actually be able to advertise
on any given podcast. So, I just
want that to set in for a
second,

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because that is what is, I
believe, I really, truly believe
is going to drive this new form
of

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advertising. We're going to work
much more directly with the
creative side of the advertising
business

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for instance, that these
earthling spots, actually, if it
was a different one every single
time,

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and I had 30 different ones and
there was a different story, it
would bother me much less.

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I think repetition is the thing
that is one of the things that
we've gotten really tired of in
mainstream

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radio, and you can repeat the
same general message, but it can
be delivered different every
single time.

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That would just be a start, just
a very small modification, and
that's done all the time, by the
way,

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of course, in traditional
advertising. But the concept
that an advertiser would have to
audition

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to sponsor a show is big, and it
opens it up so that not only big
brands and big advertisers,

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but if you wanted to just show
up with your credit card and
advertise on Dawn and Drew, as
an example,

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then you should be able to do
that, and you should be able to
audition in the same manner.

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And I think at the end of the
day, the show itself, the
producers, and probably the
audience,

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if we find the right way to
involve them, will ultimately
decide what is applicable and
what is not.

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And that's pretty powerful
stuff, it really is. So I just
wanted to throw that out there.

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Got some interesting Gmail
feedback. You know, I'm up to
98% now, I'm my Gmail account. I
receive

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the special geeky four gigs
instead of two gigs. I'm not
seeing it grow, so I think it's
a hard

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wire change they made for me. So
I'm going to have to start
begging again to get more

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gigage allocated. I pay for it.
I gladly pay for it. I really
love Gmail. Let me pay for it,
please.

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Give me more space. I need more
space. Leo Vagoda has heard Maya

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ranting about Gmail, and he
started using it for his
personal mail, and he likes the
way

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the built-in spell checker
works. I totally agree. I use it
all the time. It also has,

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it seems a growing list of
languages that it'll check for.
In fact, when I write an email
in

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Dutch, which I also do from time
to time, and I hit spell check,
it automatically recognizes

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that it's Dutch. I don't even
have to set it. So that's really
nice. Leo goes on to say in his
emails,

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I check the spelling on a mail I
was sending earlier this
evening. I noticed they don't
know

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the word podcast. It's true.
I've noticed this. I have told
Rama, she rommed that. I said,

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dude, you know, next time we
talk to the Gmail guys, get me
some more space. And you might
want

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them to put the word podcast
into their spell check
dictionary. It's just a minor
oversight,

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but it makes you look so
Microsofty, you know? So please
fix that. They'll hear it.
They'll fix it.

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Let's keep an eye on it. From
this date, from the 23rd
December, let's see how long it
takes to get

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it fixed. And I lost his email
address. Dutch guy sent me an
idea about syncing up Gmail to
my

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blackberry, and using the email
push the way the way it works
with the regular service that it

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comes with. And he has a very
good work around. Unfortunately,
speaking of Microsoft, it
requires

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installing the exchange server.
So his idea was since, since
Gmail, so I guess it supports
I'm

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app. Does it support I'm app?
Yeah, I think it supports I'm
app. Or maybe the extended pop
three

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protocol, whatever the hell that
is. And what he did is, so
essentially you can set up push
email

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either through your cellular
carrier who will have some kind
of web interface for you or you
can

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set it up with an enterprise
exchange server. And it'll also
push your email out and
synchronize

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it. And so what he did is he
said, well, once you create a
connector to Gmail through I
map,

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or the extended pop three
protocol, so that it will
basically replicate the changes
that you make

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in your exchange email box. And
so it is a chain and there's an
extra step in the middle,

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but it would work. Now, of
course, the the big problem is,
you know, setting up an exchange

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server. Man, I'm afraid of that.
But the idea is really cool. So
it could work. Any more thoughts

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on that are obviously welcome.
And just got a quick email from
Cass Blaster Mike. We haven't
talked

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about Cass Blaster Mike in a
while. He has been releasing new
code steadily and he's been
working

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on this other thing, which he
hasn't even given me a runtime
copy of yet, which is it just
looks

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really cool. It's the other side
of the equation. But it's what I
like about seeing the kind of

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development that Mike does is
he's he's out to solve a
problem. He's not, you know,
just developing

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software. He sees a problem. He
saw the problem of a simple way
to record a podcast. He fixed
it.

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And the ties are now being made.
The connections between the cast
Blaster software and the

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PDN, the podcast delivery
network. So that's going to be
cool for direct, you know, one
button

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click it all fires off and
you're done with that crap. He
said that the, um, what is it?
The forum

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moderator over to
castblaster.com has actually
started his first podcast, which
is unusual. Now usually

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people who are on the listening
side or, um, or the, you know,
or really fans of shows or
software.

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They don't, you know, if they're
not podcasting already, it
doesn't happen that, you know,

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people hang around for months
and then start to podcast. And
so he's got a, it doesn't have a
promo yet,

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but it's a radioqrm.com. If you
want to hear a podcast made with
cast Blaster, direct from the

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cast Blaster community, really
go check that out. And cast
Blaster is a free download, um,
it'll work

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for, you know, it'll record up
to 10 minutes and then you can
purchase a license. If you want
to,

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uh, um, if you want the full
understricted version,
castblaster.com.

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Oh, let me see. Well, I was just
cruising around the podcast,
using network, uh, and, you
know,

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again, another 50 new songs in
there, so another record label
came online, just kicking some

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ass. And, um, I found this, uh,
it's kind of like a mix, but
it's like rock and a little bit
of

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country, uh, let me see, the
artist's name is Terri Lee
Cobble. And I think the CD's
about a year old,

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but, uh, yeah, I'm a sucker for
this kind of music. White
T-shirt on your daily source
code.

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[ Music ]

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My teacher, very short code, the
Christmas edition isn't it?

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I'm not going to do a show on
Saturday, certainly not on
Sunday

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Patricia's present came today

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I'm glad she isn't listening to
the show

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But thanks to all of your
comments about what kind of
karaoke machine to get her

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Which I know is her big wish

36:36.300 --> 36:43.300
And I got this fantastic, it's
like the professional version of
the version

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Version of the Mr. microphone

36:45.300 --> 36:48.300
And it's got thousands of songs
you can hook it up to the TV

36:48.300 --> 36:50.300
It has a wireless FM transmitter

36:50.300 --> 36:52.300
It's got to do it microphones

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It's high, yeah

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So the only thing I got to do
now is get a good amplification
radio reception system

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But I'm really, really happy
about what I got for

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So this is the Christmas edition

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I'm only halfway through the
list

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I don't know if I want to do
another hour long show

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It was Timothy Freewin

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It says you add on my feel
really offended about how you
seem so incapable of keeping up
with the lost info

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And he sent me this list of lost
podcasts

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I'm talking about the TV series
lost

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That is so extensive

37:26.300 --> 37:30.300
That once the show notes are up,
I'll go in and I'll just post
this whole list in

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Because it's every single thing
you want to know about lost in
the podcast format

37:37.300 --> 37:41.300
Which by the way, I'm starting
to figure this out

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Really what we're talking about
here is

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We're mashing up our own media

37:48.300 --> 37:51.300
Yeah, it's a podcast, yeah, it's
kind of like radio

37:51.300 --> 37:52.300
But what is it really?

37:52.300 --> 37:55.300
What really is this stuff we're
doing?

37:55.300 --> 37:58.300
What we're doing is we're taking
each other's shit and
repurposing it

37:58.300 --> 38:00.300
And throwing good back at each
other

38:00.300 --> 38:03.300
It's like it's definitely mash
up

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We're mashing up songs that
we're making in our bedrooms,
basements, addicts

38:08.300 --> 38:10.300
Or professional studios

38:10.300 --> 38:14.300
We're taking audio feedback from
each other

38:14.300 --> 38:18.300
And bits and bytes and pieces of
mainstream media

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That have been missed and mashed
and mangled

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And we're putting it all
together and then we're calling
it a podcast

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But it's a mash, it's a mash of
stuff

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And I think that we're going to
see

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Well, I think we'll see the same
thing with video

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Seems like and maybe with
pictures we see all kinds of
mashups

38:34.300 --> 38:38.300
So the next thing I want to
invent

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Is the mashboard

38:42.300 --> 38:44.300
That's what it's got to be

38:44.300 --> 38:45.300
It's got to be a mashboard

38:45.300 --> 38:49.300
And it got to be able to output
to different places and
different devices

38:49.300 --> 38:52.300
And it's the communication that
we were talking about

38:52.300 --> 38:57.300
The podsafe music community and
which interweaves into podcast
community

38:57.300 --> 39:01.300
Which interweaves into yet other
communities of a physical
handicapsy

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But you know, so you find
yourself in touch with all these
great people

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And you know what it's

39:07.300 --> 39:09.300
It's

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Oh, man, what can I compare it
with?

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It's going to be the, you know,
it's going to be big

39:17.300 --> 39:19.300
I can feel it, I can't feel it

39:19.300 --> 39:21.300
Here's an example of all that
mashing stuff

39:21.300 --> 39:23.300
You know, when I was a young boy

39:23.300 --> 39:25.300
They told me not to put my day
job

39:25.300 --> 39:27.300
Because my shinning shut

39:27.300 --> 39:28.300
Well, you know what?

39:28.300 --> 39:30.300
I'm a podcaster now

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[ Music ]

39:57.300 --> 40:03.300
All the new themes song when we
talk about podекотор

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Yesterday I put out of the
challenge

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Since we haven't officially
announced

40:07.300 --> 40:10.300
We have two partners. I'm only
kind of hinted it one

40:10.300 --> 40:13.300
For our podcast delivery network

40:13.300 --> 40:15.300
Now the the big thing about

40:15.300 --> 40:17.300
Growth and podcasting

40:17.300 --> 40:23.060
testing is this shit just eats
up bandwidth and in order to be
able to deliver reliably,

40:23.060 --> 40:27.700
we didn't want to go and build
infrastructure that other people
had figured out a long,

40:27.700 --> 40:35.660
long time ago. So we partnered
up with a big player. And we
want to make sure that, of

40:35.660 --> 40:41.060
course, anyone who wants to
independently produce a podcast,
can at least not have to worry

40:41.060 --> 40:44.980
about the delivery part, not
have to worry about the tools
part, not just not have to worry

40:44.980 --> 40:48.180
about that stuff. So you can
just get, hey, look, if you need
to produce her, then that

40:48.180 --> 40:54.340
works going to help you out,
believe me. So I hinted around,
and so far two people have
gotten

40:54.340 --> 41:00.260
the right Pico and Leo figured
out who our partner is. So
that's all I'm going to say
about it

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for right now. You could
actually, if you did some more
digging, and this is for the
nerds,

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you could actually find out who
our other partner is. And it's
also a really a network partner,

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but someone who offers a very
important service when it comes
to networking.

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And we think, January 1st, we'll
have our first, by now it's
probably about 50 podcasters

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who will be using the PDN as
well as the first portions of
the network.

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And I can tell you, I'm very,
very excited about it. So, and
they'll be talking about it on
their

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own shows, and they'll be
letting you know about what
they're experiencing. So I don't
have to

41:46.180 --> 41:51.060
to do our own horn here for the
moment. But I do want to do the
horn of the folks at Pod Show

41:51.940 --> 41:57.940
who are working really hard to
get a lot of stuff done before,
really the Christmas week,

41:59.060 --> 42:04.980
and also for those who have
decided to shift their lives
around to work between Christmas
and New

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years, and it's deeply
appreciated by myself, and I'm
sure that a whole bunch of other
podcasts

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who have been waiting for for
great services to come online
and to be happy as well.

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Oh, wait a minute. Oh, yes, it's
time, ladies and gentlemen,
because it's Friday, so we get
the

42:22.660 --> 42:27.140
talk about the bio diesel
industry, and we do it with a
Trinity song.

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From the bio diesel industry. So
today we've got some banter on
synthetic oils, some

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biodiesel podcasts, a book about
biodiesel, having some cow dung
make a car run, and a show on
the

42:50.260 --> 42:58.980
discovery channel. It's also a
diesel engine for an airplane,
and is she a biodiesel at all?

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These questions of many more
will remain unanswered in our
bio diesel segment.

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Which of course revolves around
the purchase of my new Mercedes
300 turbo diesel biodiesel?

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Trinity, Trinity, Trinity,
Trinity, Trinity, Trinity,
Trinity, I think Jeff is blind
too.

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I don't know. Jeff, can you send
me the, just the track for that?
The music, because I'd love to

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continue the music, continue to
have the music continue
underneath me going through some
of the

43:46.900 --> 43:52.580
feedback that we received
regarding biodiesel and Trinity,
and I'd really love for these to
be

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audio feedback, and one of the
things we're going to have on a
new show sites as a part of the

43:57.860 --> 44:02.420
podcast network will be a
feedback mechanism that'll make
that a lot easier for everybody,

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including the podcast, of
course. Peter Warnock, hooked
into the synthetic oils
conversation

44:10.020 --> 44:15.780
and says synthetic oils help
reduce our dependency on crude
oil, but it's still derived from
petrochemicals

44:16.420 --> 44:22.500
as our nylon latex plastic and a
variety of other products. Yeah,
okay. So, again, you know,

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I'm not in this, I just want to
make it clear, although it has
all the benefits of being much
greener away

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of consuming road space. I'm
really in it for the
independence of just being able
to, you know,

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my ultimate dream to be able to
poop in my tank and go. BJK, BJ
says you need to serve to TDI
club.com.

44:45.300 --> 44:50.580
Okay, form for diesel owners,
hackers, mechanics, biodiesel
brewers. These are the guys who
know

44:50.580 --> 44:56.500
all about the diesel cars. Okay,
definitely. And also he says the
podcast more hip than hippie

44:56.580 --> 45:02.820
had useful biodiesel
information. Okay, so maybe we
can ask Dorian Val to revisit
biodiesel.

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That would be cool. Moving on to
Ash Reed, Adam Congratulations
with your new car.

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I've enclosed the book I sell
over at newbiodiesel.com about
biodiesel. Good starting point
for making

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and using biodiesel. Okay, cool.
So that's newbiodiesel.com. I
thank you for the PDF.

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It's on my required reading list
that usually happens on virgin
upper class. And then I got an
article

45:28.420 --> 45:34.100
about cow fuel. I'm just going
to fire up a fire Fox here for a
second. Take it there.

45:36.260 --> 45:42.500
It's actually a Reuters story.
And this comes from Quebec. A
Canadian company has an idea for

45:42.500 --> 45:47.860
motors worried about global
warming. Put a cow in your tank.
And man, what's next? Poop in
your

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tank? You're going to steal all
my lines here. $14 million a
Canadian dollar. Factor in your

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Montreal started producing
biodiesel fuel two weeks ago
from the bones, innards, and
other parts

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of farm animals such as cattle,
pigs, or chickens that Canadians
do not eat. We're rushing. No,
I'm

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sorry. We're using animal waste
to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions said marketing
director won

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Ron Wardrop of Rothsay, which
runs the plant. We need more of
this type of thing. And he said

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at the plant by the St. Lawrence
River near Montreal where 189
nations are meeting this week to

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work out how to curb climate
change, wildly blamed on
emissions of heat-trapping gases
from fossil

46:26.820 --> 46:34.820
fuels. Anyway, so they're thrown
just debris, I guess. Just dead,
dead animals. Okay.

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Which brings us back to that
original thought of your granny
and your tank. More with
thought.

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I missed it, but the discovery
channel had a show called dirty,
or has a show called dirty jobs.

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And in one of the episodes they
featured biodiesel, I was
wondering if anyone has a bit
torn

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or can tell me when, because I
do have discovery channel here
over in Europe. I don't know if
it's the

46:57.060 --> 47:06.580
same one. Just when I can catch
that. I'd love to see that. And
here's Kevin Mason saying,

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how about having listeners send
you an image? Oh, this is
whether I actually have a
biodiesel

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engine or not. I think we're
going to find out if I have a
biodiesel engine, we throw some
biodiesel

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in and see if it works or not.
But that is a good idea. If
someone could put in the show
notes,

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a converted engine before and
after. So we know exactly what
pieces of kit to look for. That
would

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be very helpful. And see two
more here. John Foreman says,
actually, oh, I know John,

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he says he's been in the garage
building as plain all week. And
he's been catching up on the
daily

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source codes. And he sent me a
link to a site called Delta Hawk
and Delta Hawk Engines.com.

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Um, they make diesel engines for
airplanes. He says, doesn't know
if they have a conversion

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for the 182, but, you know, I'm
sure it's coming. Imagine that
flying, pooping in your planes
tank.

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Oh, man, I love it. And then the
final one, Chris Holman, who,
yeah, this is the same thing.

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Other than the stick around the
back windshield, or you sure
this is even a biodiesel car.

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Well, I'm going back at the
January 8th, I think, the 8th or
the 9th. And I'll be then in the

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condo for two weeks, a good run.
And, uh, well, I know that I'm
going to run out of fuel
eventually.

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So we are going to do our sound
seeing tour trip to Berkeley,
biodiesel oasis.

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Yeah, baby, cannot wait. Hey,
Adam, this is Chris with the
Children of the God's Project

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over at Children of the Gods
that net. I just wanted to drop
you a line and thank you for
playing

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my comment to you on your show a
couple of weeks back. And again,
for the play on today's show as

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well, I also wanted to pass on
to you that the response to that
comment has been simply
phenomenal.

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I've received close to 50 emails
from folks offering to lend
their voices or various

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talents with music and sound
effects to the project. I have
to tell you, I'm truly
scrambling to

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get the scripts written fast
enough to give as many of these
great people a role in the
project as

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quickly as possible. It's
getting a little nuts. In fact,
for those of your listeners who
have

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set me an email and haven't
received a response from me yet,
I would like to apologize for
the delay

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and getting back with them.
Simply, wasn't prepared for the
onslaught on my inbox, and since
I'm

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pretty new, not only to
podcasting, but also to a
publicized project of this
scope. I'm suffering

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from a bit of disorganization.
I've worked hard to fix it
though, and I'd like to invite
any of

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the volunteers who have not
heard back from me to visit
production.children of the
gods.net

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and create an account for
themselves. There, they can
check out the latest scripts as
they are finished

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and see what roles are available
and make contact with me to
volunteer for a particular part.

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This way, it's a little more
organized than I'm not
struggling with people who want
the same

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part and so on and so on. It's
slow going right now while we
try to get jostled into the main

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character roles and get the
recorded voices all together.
But once everyone's in position,

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I should be able to produce a
new episode, once every couple
of weeks at first, and then
hopefully

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once a week as I get the
production process streamlined.
In the meantime, keep your ears
open for

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the sonic boom. I think this
project is going to make it a
podcast community. If it cracks
your windows,

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let me know so I can get a check
to you, huh? Thanks again, pod,
father. See you, Mac.

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Out. All right, man. Thank you.
That's Jay Mac's brother. I
think, from not mistaken.

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And so these projects, this is
something really beautiful. It's
taking place here. If you look
at

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what happened with pod safe for
peace, 32 pod safe artists, all
mixed, all virtual people who

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never met each other, not
before, not since. If you look
at the friends and technology,

50:59.300 --> 51:04.580
Christmas Carol, their geeky
Christmas Carol, one of their in
their series of, where's it,

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nightmares from the server room.
If you look at this project,
children of the gods, if you
look at

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comment, have you heard of the
podcast, a podcast Christmas
Carol at apodcastChristmas
Carol.com.

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Wow, this was great. I had a
small role in it. I was really
thankful that I was allowed to
participate.

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When I heard it all come back, I
was just amazed at the shit we
can do. And we're putting,

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I mean, this is a 50 minute
drama, and it's compelling. It's
good. You know, this is story to
it.

51:34.900 --> 51:38.740
And of course, it's all tongue
and cheek. And we're kind of
making fun of the radio
industry.

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But it's great, you know, and
how quickly we're able to
organize and and create a
mashup,

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there you go. Once again, you
know, what the hell was that?
That was a complete mashup. We
made

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entertainment ourselves. This is
really important stuff that's
happening here. I'm excited
about it.

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Note to self, must make the
mashboard, whatever the fuck
that is. And an update on the

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tie. We're just going to get it
through everything today. I got
like six more items on my list.

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Frank Yonan, by far and away,
has sent in the most beautiful
design for my tattoo that I've

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been thinking of getting. No,
I'm convinced I'm getting it
now. We're now down to the final
bits of

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design Patricia has taken his
design and has made some
adaptations. I'm going to scan
those,

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email them back to him. And then
I guess I'm just going to have
it made. I'm really excited
about this.

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And trucker Tom, if you know,
trucker Tom is, or if you don't,
go search Flickr for trucker Tom

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tags. And you'll see that he
without a doubt is an expert
when it comes to tattoo. I think
50

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percent of his body or something
like that is tattooed. And he
sent me this wonderful, of
course,

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I packed it away. Now, he sent
me this wonderful, like quick
start guide, which was a project
I

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guess he worked on a while ago.
It was kind of like, you know,
when you open up a new gadget,

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you have the manual and then you
have the quick start manual. So
this was a part of what was
supposed

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to be a series of quick start
guides. And it was a 10 step
quick start guide to getting a
tattoo.

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And there's some really, yeah,
there was some really good
information in there. And some
some

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good, thoughtful things. You
know, one of the, and also some
jargons. You kind of know what
you're

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talking about, but also some
recommendations like never, ever
ever get someone's name tattoo.

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You know, your body bad idea. So
appreciate it, Trucker Tom.
Really do. And what I'll do is
I'll

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put the, when we have the final
design, I'll put it up in the
show notes, a show notes. You
could

53:38.180 --> 53:47.060
take a look at it. And then, you
know, what? Now, I think that
was Patricia calling for
Christina

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not for me. Anyway, uh, egg nog.
Uh, I was waiting for this to
happen. I think Patricia's

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calling Christina. Uh, Amy
Bugbee says, Adam, heard your
call for egg nog recipes. And
here's

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mine actually made it my very
first podcast at crime in
cookies.com. Go to the cookie
cast about

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four minutes long. And I give
the entire recipe and
directions. Rum and whiskey.
Imagine that. Um,

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you got it, Amy. Thank you very
much. I'm going to, I'm, I've
chosen your recipe because
you're

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the first one to do a podcast of
it. So, I'm going to use that.
Let me see, now onto the blank

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media tax. Um, and I think we
should wind this up pretty soon.
Uh, I think the first thing I
have

54:30.260 --> 54:35.140
here is a comment from Darrell.
Let me see, it looks a little
four minutes maybe long. Let's
see what

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it was. I think it was actually
something pretty good. Hey,
Adam, this is Darrell Falman
with

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Roscoe podcast. And this has to
do with you. Oh, yeah, right.
He's a lawyer or he's a lawyer
in

54:45.620 --> 54:50.340
making, but it's the law school
podcast. So, yeah. So, I want to
definitely listen to this
because

54:50.340 --> 54:57.380
he goes into the United States
code and statutory law about who
is allowed to collect money from

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blank media. It's four, it's
four minutes long. So, you might
want to skip ahead if you're

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completely uninterested, but he
has some really good pieces of
information that he's dealt up

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for us that I think you want to
listen to. Your performance
rights. I tried to do some
research

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on this a little bit to find out
what to deal with. I really
cannot believe that there'd be a
charge

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for a digital audio recording
mediums as it's defined by the
United States code. But anyway,

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there is a fee for that. A
digital audio recording medium
is any material object and form

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commonly distributed for use by
individuals that is primarily
marketed or most commonly used

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by consumers for the purpose of
making digital audio copied
recordings by use of a digital

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audio recording device. So, that
could be a recordable seating
raw. Now, here we have the
royalty

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payments. Digital audio
recording media. This is a total
17 chapter 10 subjectorsc
section

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one thousand four under the
United States code. The royalty
payment do under section one
thousand three

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for each digital audio recording
medium imported into and
distributed in the United States

56:12.420 --> 56:18.500
or manufactured and distributed
in the United States shall be 3%
of the transfer price.

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Only the first person to
manufacture and distribute or
import and distribute such media
shall be

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required to pay the royalty with
respect to these such media.
Now, under the United States
code

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title 17 chapter 10 subjectorsc
section one thousand six, this
is the allocation of royalty
payments.

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It's in two funds. Number one,
the sound recordings fund. They
get 66 and three two thirds per
cent.

56:42.980 --> 56:48.180
Two and five eights per cent of
that goes to now's for a escrow
account managed by an

56:48.180 --> 56:54.020
independent administrator and
also the interested copyright
parties that are the
non-featured

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musicians. That's two and five
eights per cent to them. One and
three eights per cent of the

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royalty payments allocated go to
non-featured vocalist and then
forty percent of the remaining.
So,

57:07.460 --> 57:12.020
forty percent of the remaining
after two and five eights and
after one and three eights of
the

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66 and two thirds that's
complicated all this fractions.
But forty percent of that goes

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to the sound recordings fund and
shall be distributed to the
featured recording artists. And
then

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sixty percent other remaining of
the remaining royalty payments
shall be distributed to the
owners.

57:31.940 --> 57:38.820
Okay, so now we have
thirty-for-one-third percent
left. Fifty percent of that will
go to the music

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publishers and then, I mean, do
I say thirty percent of that
fifty percent? Fifty percent

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goes to the music publishers and
fifty percent goes to the
writers. So, there you have it.

57:49.380 --> 57:55.860
I just started doing some
research on this. I'm interested
to learn some more, find out who

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the sound recordings fund is
and, you know, who all these
parties are. And it's just kind
of

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interesting, I'll post some
information in the show notes
from your DSC 302. And you can
read

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it there and also links back to
my website and maybe some other
links as well. One interesting
thing,

58:18.900 --> 58:26.340
I found a case while I was doing
some research that had the RIA
and they were basically

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going wanted to go to
arbitration on the amount of
money that they were getting and
what they

58:31.780 --> 58:39.060
wanted was something like
forty-some percent instead of
like two percent or whatever and
they ended

58:39.060 --> 58:47.780
up getting about six percent
from music and a couple of other
companies. But anyway,
interesting stuff

58:47.780 --> 58:54.900
and cut out what you need. I
know it's a bunch of garbage but
the basics of this is that,

58:55.220 --> 59:02.180
yes, there is a three percent
charge on the transfer price for
media in the United States.

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Have a good one. I hope you have
a great Christmas. Talk to you
later.

59:07.220 --> 59:12.420
Hold on. What happened? Yeah,
I'm doing the show so you walk
in, you're on the show.

59:12.420 --> 59:18.660
I'm into theory. No, so I have
to use your keys. Well, no, you
don't have to. You can go find
your key.

59:18.660 --> 59:23.700
I know, but I have to go to
sense, Barry, and by, well, you
do some, will you buy something
for me

59:23.780 --> 59:29.700
while you're there? You know,
there's a new Gillette G3 Razor
with a vibrator in it.

59:32.420 --> 59:37.780
Really? Yes. It's supposed to be
the, yeah, yeah, I've seen it
there at Sainsbury. It's

59:37.780 --> 59:43.860
a, it comes with a battery and
the whole thing. Really? Yeah.
Oh. Can you go one of those for
me?

59:43.860 --> 59:51.780
Yeah. Okay, thank you. Love you.
Bye. So, um, back to that, man,
this is going to be such a long

59:51.860 --> 59:58.260
podcast. But hey, it's not often
that Christmas and Hanukkah
start on the same day.

01:00:01.700 --> 01:00:05.620
Thank you very much for going
through all the trouble there to
find to find out that
information

01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:11.780
about the code. This is exactly
what your government is doing,
ladies and gentlemen, and notice
that

01:00:11.780 --> 01:00:16.500
stuff goes into arbitration when
they, when someone else wants to
muscle in and get some,

01:00:16.500 --> 01:00:20.900
some money out of this pool, how
about just independent
programmers? If it's only about

01:00:20.900 --> 01:00:27.460
copying files and not specified
as music, then anyone could
delve into that. Man, man,
that's, that's

01:00:27.460 --> 01:00:33.060
what your government does. You,
you wonder why Holly would
donate so much money? Well, duh,

01:00:33.060 --> 01:00:37.300
this is how they get it back,
you know, by getting able to
being able to cut these kind of
deals

01:00:37.300 --> 01:00:41.940
on the back end. Doesn't matter.
I, I don't, I'm not interested
in any of that. Let's say,

01:00:41.940 --> 01:00:46.100
well, they're all busy, you
know, meeting and going into
arbitration about how to divvy
up the

01:00:46.100 --> 01:00:50.820
dough. Let's create our own
pool. You know, let's create our
own pool of cash and let's
surprise them.

01:00:50.820 --> 01:00:55.540
When they wake up, we'll say,
well, sorry, we got everything
running over here. Just find new
rules

01:00:56.900 --> 01:01:01.780
and Doug Pilgrim really takes it
to the extreme and he's so
right. He says, hey, isn't blank
paper used

01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:06.180
some of the time to copyright
material? Can you imagine the
shitstorm that would be
creative?

01:01:06.180 --> 01:01:13.220
There was a fee or a tax on
blank paper? Why not? If the RIA
can tax CDs, why not let
publishers

01:01:13.220 --> 01:01:20.340
tax blank paper? You know, it
wouldn't surprise me if they
already do. When not surprised
me at all.

01:01:21.780 --> 01:01:29.780
Okay, I don't know how this one
got by my, you know, my RSS
reader, but apparently Apple is
selling

01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:39.460
a podcast server and there's
been some talk about that on the
boards. I don't know, I mean,

01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:44.100
it would work for businesses. I
think actually is being sold as
a business podcast server.

01:01:45.220 --> 01:01:51.300
And let me see, there was a, oh,
man, I got this whole PDF about
the Australian version of

01:01:51.300 --> 01:01:56.740
AskCat, the amount of AskCat. I
might just take a look at it for
a second. There was a reason why
I

01:01:56.740 --> 01:02:04.020
put it into my, into my
outliner. Oh, yeah, they have,
oh, yeah, it's the podcast
license from

01:02:04.020 --> 01:02:14.020
the RP, APRA, which is
Australia's version of AskCat
slash BMI. What was the thing I
wanted to talk

01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:21.540
about here? It was so
complicated. Here we go. So this
license is good up until the
31st of December

01:02:21.540 --> 01:02:31.620
2006. Podcast containing music
works are licensed at 1.925%.
That's including a value added
tax

01:02:31.620 --> 01:02:36.980
of gross revenue. So any money
you receive, all of all the
money you get for your podcast.

01:02:37.940 --> 01:02:41.780
And that would include barter as
well. So if you receive
something in trade, you'd have
to

01:02:42.340 --> 01:02:53.460
basically pay cash your fee.
It's subject to a minimum fee of
1.62 cents per work per
subscriber.

01:02:54.420 --> 01:03:02.580
Cap.16.5 cents per podcast per
subscriber. So I guess if you
had to show where you had like
10 songs

01:03:02.580 --> 01:03:10.820
or but does it even have 10 or
20, then essentially you have to
pay. This is amazing. 16 cents.

01:03:12.740 --> 01:03:20.980
Per work per subscriber. That
sounds, let's just take it at
the, let's just make it two
cents

01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:26.020
just to make it easy, okay?
Because that's a little bit
above the minimum fee. So if you
have,

01:03:26.020 --> 01:03:32.660
like I just, I'm going to have
three songs in this show. So
that would be six cents.

01:03:33.620 --> 01:03:42.420
And then I have to multiply it
by the subscribers. So even I
would go broke.

01:03:44.020 --> 01:03:47.700
Now it doesn't say anything
about if you don't make any
money,

01:03:49.220 --> 01:03:56.340
which I think means that the
minimum subject to a minimum fee
that I think you always have to
pay

01:03:56.340 --> 01:04:02.420
the 1.62 cents. And those are
Australian cents. I presume,
Australian dollar cents.

01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:08.340
Wow. Yeah, that's great. But I
don't think it's really going to
work.

01:04:09.940 --> 01:04:16.500
And of course, the real question
is of that fee, does any of that
money go to the actual
independent

01:04:16.500 --> 01:04:23.060
artist who created the music? I
don't think we're there yet,
guys. I really don't.

01:04:23.540 --> 01:04:29.780
What I do know is that we're
definitely there for this year,
for this podcast,

01:04:30.500 --> 01:04:36.420
and I think it is kind of unique
that Hanukkah starts on the 25th
of December, which is Christmas
Day.

01:04:37.860 --> 01:04:40.980
And I want to, yeah, really, I
want to wish you all a very
Merry Christmas. We don't have

01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:46.660
a Hanukkah Podsafe piece, but
perhaps that will happen next
year.

01:04:48.750 --> 01:09:13.750
[ Music ]

01:09:17.380 --> 01:09:25.540
we make all our dreams come
true, we make all our dreams
come true, we make all our
dreams come true,

01:09:25.540 --> 01:09:26.380
It was so cool.

01:09:26.380 --> 01:09:29.020
Listen, everybody, have a very
happy holidays.

01:09:29.020 --> 01:09:31.620
I'll be back on the 26th Monday.

01:09:31.620 --> 01:09:33.380
We'll get it all cranking again.

01:09:33.380 --> 01:09:35.380
And I'll talk about some more
shit

01:09:35.380 --> 01:09:37.820
as Mark Yoshimaru Namcoff would
say.

01:09:37.820 --> 01:09:39.860
But it really is true.

01:09:39.860 --> 01:09:44.260
So be good everybody, be
healthy, and be very happy.

01:09:44.260 --> 01:09:45.820
Bye.

01:09:45.820 --> 01:09:47.260
Pot show.

01:09:47.260 --> 01:09:49.740
The pot cast cool kids go for.
