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Days of summer, now is now, I'm
such a sucker for power cords
and power vocals and choruses.

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So in the pod save music
network, thanks to Kevin from
firstperson show.net for sending
me a link to them.

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If you took out the website as
well, they've got a couple of
videos.

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Hey everybody, how you doin' is
Wednesday.

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We are halfway through the week,
whether it's shit over here.

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In preparation for my San
Francisco voyage, hopin' on the
oil rig for another couple of
weeks.

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Patricia, hold on a second.

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But you should drag me to the
hairdresser today, and I have a
perfect coop emo at the moment.

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My daughter is gonna be so proud
which she sees in my hair, just
like all the emo guys wear it.

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Let's see, got lots to talk
about today.

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Interesting stuff that people
basically emailed me. I'd love
to get more of this stuff in
audio comment form.

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I'll see Patrick Mylander sent
me a link to a German website, a
page and a hoita.de, and he
actually gave me a synopsis in
English of what the page says.

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This is about what's going on in
France. Apparently they're about
to legalize file sharing, and
from what I gather for a
7-year-of-fee, so about a box,

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that'll be added to your monthly
internet bill, the legalize
copying of music and other
media.

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Patrick, thank you very much for
sending in that link. My Germans
are a little rusty, but I was
able to kind of get through it.

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Some other people sent me
information about this.

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If you know what's going on, and
I know we have French podcasters
tuned in, the pom pom pom pom
pom pom podcast.

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Give us an audio feedback. Let
us know what's happening over
there, because that sounds
pretty exciting.

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Another thing that a whole bunch
of people have been emailing me
about, this is something that,
you know, if dig.com hasn't
jumped on it yet, they certainly
should.

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This is about the Coldplay CD. I
don't know if you've heard about
this, but the new Coldplay CD,
which I believe is on Sony
records. I'm loading up the page
right now.

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Let me see, are they on Sony?
Yes, they're on Sony.

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It comes with what we call a
Yula, an EULA, the end user
license agreement, and there's
lots of information now on the
net about this, but it's really,
it's pretty funny. So this is
insert.

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And they have pictures of it,
and have actually listed out in
plain text exactly what it says.
I just want to run through some
of these things.

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The most important part is the
title. This CD is a copy
protected CD, and it goes on to
say, thank you very much for
purchasing this CD in helping
the cause of anti piracy.

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The recordings in this CD have
an anti copying function. They
cannot be copied into a PC.

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In order for you to enjoy high
quality music, we have added
this special technology, so they
add a little player, so you can
play it if you want to roll it
out on your PC.

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Listen to all of this stuff.
Here's all the disclaimers. This
is, it's exactly like the
opening up a copy of Windows XP.
You know, there's all the fine
print that you just rip across,
but by opening that you agree to
the end user license agreement.

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Here we go. Some CD players that
have the capability of burning
into an MP3, such as portable
players or car stereos. Oh, this
is the list of devices that
won't play the CD.

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Some players that possess CDR or
RW functions. Some car stereos
with satellite guidance systems.
Some CD players or car stereos
with hard disk recording
capability. Some CDR RW
recorders use from music.

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And it goes on. It won't work on
some portable CD players. Some
DVD players. Some CD LD
convertible players. Some game
players.

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It's amazing.

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Oh, yeah, so they, they add this
little application. Although you
can use your Windows program to
listen to certain tracks. This
does not mean the CD can be
played in all PCs.

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The first time this program is
used in Windows automatic
starter software gets registered
in Windows file.

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Is that what they said? That's
horrible English. Those programs
already registered to not affect
Windows. This is, that's not
even English. That doesn't make
sense. Anyway, the final one
there is this CD does not
support Macintosh PC software.

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Hey, why don't we just not buy
it? Oh, it's going on. That's
nuts, man. That's totally nuts.

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And then I'm sure, you know,
we've getting more and more
stories just pouring in about
how wacky the RIA and affiliated
organizations are. And a lot is
coming. It's kind of bubbling up
as to how they've been growing
their market share, not by
necessarily selling more
records, but by taking money
from other places such as

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the story from Fradrico Avers.

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According to my physician here
in Belgium, he only plays
classical music, which is
royalty free in the waiting
room.

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Because otherwise he has to pay
the Belgian ASCAP equivalent.

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Is this how elevator music got
started? Well, I don't know if
that's, I guess it is true.

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Wait a minute, I know, wouldn't
they technically, it depends on
who the recording is of. I don't
know. I guess maybe there.

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I'm trying to think if you'd
have to pay ASCAP EMI in that.

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Anyway, doesn't matter, just
some of the wacky things that's
going on.

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I had a great conversation
yesterday with Steve Gilmore of
the Gilmore gang and Gilmore
daily.

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And we were going to do, we
actually wanted to do this
before the New Year's, but he
was sick and I had a lot going
on by parents.

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And so we decided to do it in
the New Year. We had a great
conversation. I don't know 45
minutes or an hour.

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It was, I thought it would be a
really good Gilmore daily. And I
like having conversation with
Steve because he can be such a
dick.

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And I really get you fired up.

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And unfortunately, something
went wrong with the recording on
his end.

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I should have had the presence
of mine to record my end of the
conversation at least.

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But of course, didn't, so we're
going to have to do it again.

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But we did talk about this
Google PC. I don't know if
you've heard about this.

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But the rumor is now out that
Google is going to be launching
a cheap PC.

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And we had this conversation. I
thought, you know, the only
reason I'd really care about a
device like that

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is not if it was 200 bucks or
100 bucks. But it was free.

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It was free and it returned for
that.

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So what is it? It's a computer
and it hooks up to the net and
it gives you Gmail.

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And maybe it's some kind of
online office, sweet stuff. You
know, I could totally see that
being something that in return
for advertising in your
attention is Gilmore would call
it that that could be an
offering.

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But anyway, the word is is that
where the rumor is, the Google
is going to announce something
big at CES, the consumer
electronics show in Vegas, which
I'm just missing.

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I guess is it this week that it
starts up or this weekend or
something?

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I was supposed to be on a panel,
but it just everything kind of
worked out a little differently.

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And it's a bummer because the
same time as CES is the adult
video awards.

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And I had some connections to
get in. So I'm bummed about
that.

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Adam says Alan Wage is after
being marooned in a non Howard
Stern city in Atlanta, all my
life.

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I'm anxiously awaiting January
9th when Howard goes on air at
serious.

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I got hooked on him was spending
a lot of time working in other
cities during the past few
years.

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I got my serious radio at best
by last week in anticipation.

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I got me thinking though, once I
start listening to Howard during
my morning drive,

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it's going to climb into my
podcast listening time.

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So my plan is this morning
drive, Stern afternoon drive,
DSC, other podcasts on days when
you don't do the DSC.

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Wow, I'm sure others are
struggling with this dilemma. I
love to hear your thoughts.

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Well, I think the good news
about Howard Stern on serious is
that he'll basically,

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I think the way it's going to
work is the show will just be on
a repeated loop.

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So very much the way it would
work east coast, west coast.

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I don't know, yeah, he has three
channels.

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So there's going to be some
repetition.

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So you could listen to Howard
whenever you want to, I guess.

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But I think he does work best in
the morning quite honestly.

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And there is a lot of, and we
talked about that yesterday as
well.

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Gilmore and I did it. Well,
we'll try and resurrect some of
that conversation,

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because actually I thought
someone was pretty, pretty good,
but it sucks man.

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I used to happen to Dave Winner
and me a lot when we first doing
trade secrets.

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And then, you know, the
recording stuff wasn't quite
fleshed out yet.

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And the backward freeze up and
all the entire recording would
be lost.

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And it just sucks. And then to
pick up the thread, you know,
sometimes you say,

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forget it, we'll have to do it
another day.

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Quite a conversation going on
online here in the daily source
code.

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And offline at the pod show
office is about advertisers.

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And how we want to change what
advertising is in this new type
of media mashup.

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In this particular version,
which we call a podcast, not all
of it.

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I will definitely be talking
about stuff as we can bring
stuff to the surface.

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Because, you know, we got
advertisers involved in the
conversation.

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So it's pretty exciting stuff,
but we definitely definitely are
working on changing what
advertising is.

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And one of the ways we do that
is through these subliminal
senseo vulgon mind tricks.

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Greg Mason got a senseo machine
with a gift card for the
holidays.

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He opened up the box, plugged it
in, flushed the machine the next
morning.

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He says, I made a mug of coffee
to my surprise.

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The coffee wasn't as good as I
was hoping, but more alarming, I
had zero froth.

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Oh my god.

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Well, you know, I don't know if
the, you guys send this whole
long email about not having any
froth.

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Okay, I'm just going to tell you
how I do it.

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How I make my senseo coffee,
because that does give me, it
gives me good froth.

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So, usually the water tank is
filled up.

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If not, you got to do that
first.

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And then, you know, you hit the
on button so it can warm up.

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In the meantime, you get your
pod, you put that in.

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After throwing out the old messy
gunky wet one, right?

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Because of course, you never
take that out right after you're
done with the coffee.

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You leave it in there for the
extra aroma.

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And then in your coffee cup, I
put first sugar and then I put
my milk in.

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And I put a liberal amount of
milk.

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I like it that way.

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And then by then, the senseo
machine is ready.

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I plop the, the coffee cup under
a hit, a press play.

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And then it comes out and it
does.

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And then when you stir, you
know, put your spoon down in
deep and make sure you're
stirring

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more near the bottom.

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And it's really frothy.

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It is. It's just fricking
frothy.

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Hey Adam, Kevin Williams here
from the middle management
lobotomy podcast at mml
podcast.lipsen.com.

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I listen with interest to Delta
Sierra Charlie 307 and the idea
of a senseo conspiracy.

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I am a fellow podcaster who has
also heard your dulcet tone,

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singing the praises of senseo.

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And as a result, added the
senseo product to my Christmas
list.

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Low and behold underneath the
tree was my brand,

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spanking new senseo machine.

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I could not tell you how excited
I was to have the device open it
up

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and try my first cup.

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And I do have to admit, it is
very impressive.

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The dui eegbert's medium roast
product that comes with the
senseo machine is very tasty.

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And just the way it's
manufactured is incredible.

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Now onto the conspiracy part,
however.

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The concern I believe of the
listener was that senseo,

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in teaning up with dui
eegbert's, has formed basically
a monopoly on the coffee product
itself.

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In essence, the same thing as
Dell making money one time off a
piece of hardware

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and Microsoft making repeated
money off of software sales

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that are built into the same
device.

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I would say it's slightly
different with senseo.

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In that if you do enough
research, you'll find a number
of coffee producers

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that make pods for single cup
brewing devices.

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Now they are not officially
branded as senseo nor will they
be,

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because of the marketing deal
that's senseo.

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And senseo, yes, senseo, I
believe owns dui eegbert's.

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You'll find it on the senseo
package.

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Have cut to work in tandem.

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However, at least in my own
local independent grosser
association supermarket.

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Yes, I use an independent
grosser and not one of the big
chains.

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I found not one, but two brands
have produced single pods

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that are available in those
supermarkets.

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Maxwell House has their branded.

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I'm not sure of the exact name.

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Folders has created a branding
called home cafe with single
pods

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that will fit the senseo machine
just fine.

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Their French vanilla is very
tasty out of a senseo machine.

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I've not tried their columbium
roast or their regular house
blend yet,

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but we'll be going those to try
in the future.

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Both those products sell for a
price point lower than the dui
eegbert's price.

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So if cost is a concern, yes, it
is more expensive than buying a
pound of ground coffee,

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set for a standard paper filter.

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However, I'm not wasting as much
coffee and I have to think of
the environmental impact

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of the waste of the beverage and
the water as well as the product
itself.

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So I am one satisfied senseo
owner and thrilled that you made
the recommendation

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as for a conspiracy.

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Check the web folks.

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You'll find plenty of coffee pod
producers that make pods for
single

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cup brewers that will work just
fine in your senseo machine.

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Thanks and appreciate the shout
out.

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Take care.

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Bye bye.

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Kevin, so I'm really digging
this conversation that we can
have about products.

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I don't get paid for this senseo
mentions.

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We did get compensated for eye
dog.

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I've got a lot of positive
response on the eye dog stuff.

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And I'm wondering if maybe
advertising on podcast is an
ongoing conversation.

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Arguably, you're going to get
more people try something out.

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If they hear feedback both
positive and negative, they're
more inclined to check it out.

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And of course, that also depends
on price point.

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You may not do that with a car,
but certainly on a $50 coffee
machine.

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So interesting.

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Thanks for the feedback on that.

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I'm still loving it.

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Still loving my senseo.

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You know how I love it?

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Because I don't have one in San
Francisco at the condo, but for
sure, I don't know why.

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But she bought me a cup of chino
maker.

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And although I do like the cup
of chino, whenever I get home to
the cottage, I was like,

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oh yeah, there's my girl,
there's my daughter.

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There's my senseo machine.

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I'll be there.

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Congratulations to Julie and
Smith in over your head podcast
celebrated his 100th episode
recently.

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CC Chapman, accident hash, same
deal.

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Oh, I mean, that's what an
achievement.

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100 episodes. Congratulations,
guys.

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That's fantastic.

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I wonder how I haven't spoken to
Don and Drew in a long time.

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I wonder how they're doing.

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Actually, I saw the Drew is sent
me an instant message the other
day.

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And, but I missed him.

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He was gone by the time I got
back online.

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I'm going to see what my other
girlfriend is up to.

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Quick mention, let me see.

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Hold on here.

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About LibreVox.

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There's actually a request
coming in for people to say,

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hey, I'd love it if if this book
were available in audio book
format.

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And you should definitely check
out LibreVox.org.

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Just see what's going on over
there because they got some
really cool.

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And they've got, essentially,
they've got open source audio
books.

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Oh, sab.

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And nice acronym.

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So, two, uh, alto, I think.

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Uh.

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He writes, you said on the show
that you've chosen some works
already to submit into LibreVox.

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Am I totally wrong if I wish
that around the world 90 days
might be one of them?

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Yeah, that's not one of them.

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But that's a good one.

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Someone should definitely do
that.

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And the two guys from Helsinki,
Finland.

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Make sure you, uh, add a link to
the Frapper map.

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Make sure you put your little
flag in there.

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I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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Plan 9 Rock Show.

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I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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Choose a show that comes out of
the chart.

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I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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Jasper from the Plan 9 Rock
Show.

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I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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That really might a cup of
teasers and music goes.

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I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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The Plan 9 Rock Show.

21:16.000 --> 21:18.000
I'm a demon in the rack and
throw.

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I don't know why it's because
I've got enough of my new
favorites.

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So I'll probably be ripping
Jasper's show off.

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Plan 9 Rock Show.

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Just rack.

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Plan 9 Print.com.

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So this morning after I dropped
Christina off at school, my
phone rang, my blackberry,

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and it was really weird.

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It was like a bad Skype
connection where the speech was
all kind of drawn out, and it

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was my dad.

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He was calling me from the
hospital, and as you probably
know by now he had a TIA
followed

23:27.240 --> 23:32.840
by a minor stroke, and the
outlook looks good, but he
definitely asked to stay in the
hospital

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for at least another week and
they started the rehabilitation
process, and he now has

23:37.840 --> 23:47.440
40% lost 40% of the use of his
left side, and he was really
weird because he's so

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typical.

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He started talking about
podcasting and about
opportunities, and he had, it
was really,

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it wasn't what I expected at
all.

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Actually you know what, if you
are listening to us right now on
serious satellite stars

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103, I'm sorry you're out of
luck, we're going to continue
this story on the podcast.

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You'll have to go to
dailysourceco.com to download it
later on if you want to hear the
rest

24:20.880 --> 24:21.880
of the story.

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Pacific Coast, Hellway, is up
next for you guys, and I'll be
back tomorrow right here on

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the bird with y'all that
everybody, and we're going to
continue here with a
conversation

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about my dad, okay?

24:33.440 --> 24:40.040
So it was, it's just us now, you
know, I was like, you know, how
are you doing?

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He's like, well, he basically
told me, but his speech was
definitely, you know, not

24:44.000 --> 24:49.040
slurred, but drawn out, and he
was making sense, it was just
really slow and exactly

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what you'd expect from someone
who, in that position.

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But then he did something that
he, that he's done before, you
know, or always does,

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really, starts talking about
business and like, you know,
dude, you shouldn't be worrying

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about this.

25:01.320 --> 25:05.320
He says, no, yeah, but I've, you
know, I've got to survive, and
like, yeah, well, of course

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you've got to survive, so we've
got to work on your health, but
I think he was really

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just talking about making money
and business, and I couldn't
believe it.

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It was, it was surreal almost,
and I kept saying it over and
over and over, you know,

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how are you, your health?

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That's what's important.

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And it was, anyway, it was a
weird conversation.

25:24.040 --> 25:27.160
He said something very, very
cool, though.

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Of course he, well, you know, he
continued to talk about
business, so, you know, I was
listening.

25:32.280 --> 25:39.520
He said, you're paving the goat
path, I was like, what, he said
you're paving the

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goat path, and I asked him what
that meant.

25:43.040 --> 25:48.480
He said, look, you know, Howard
Stern was able to, you know,
cash in for 100 million

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a year, and he measures
everything in money, by the way,
my dad.

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But, you know, the, the
possibility of this podcasting
stuff is, you know, could, could

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change everything, but not if
you are out to, to pave the goat
path, radio being the

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goat path.

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And I thought that was really
prolific.

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And, you know, and so I said to
him, well, you know, that's
exactly the way I feel about

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it.

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You know, there's so much more,
and, and really it's about, in
the, in the bottom layers of

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it all, it's all about
subscription, about publishing
and subscribing to, to data,
right

26:23.520 --> 26:28.640
now we've learned how to, how to
shuttle big pieces of, of audio
around, but it's just

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data.

26:29.640 --> 26:34.840
So anyway, I said, you know, I
didn't get much further with
him, but he's doing okay, and

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he's in rehabilitation, and he
has to stop drinking, stop
smoking, and exercise more and

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take care of himself.

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And, uh, I'll support him,
however I can, but he definitely
also has to stop worrying

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about other shit, because that,
that just can't help, you know,
I think he needs to slow

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down.

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Okay, uh, a couple of things,
let me see, oh, we actually have
something really cool

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coming up in a minute, uh,
something that, uh, actually
won't even work on, uh, on
anything

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but on headphones.

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So if you've got some
headphones, uh, you might want
to grab them and, uh, jam, jam
your

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buds in now, um, coast, fun.

27:15.320 --> 27:22.360
How to respond to, um, my, uh,
parsing of weather, aviation
weather, maytars and taffs.

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Uh, he says, parsing maytars in
any programming language, isn't
as easy as it sounds.

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I'm sorry.

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I didn't mean to make it sound
easy.

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Since there are a lot of maytars
standards, Jeremy Swadney
started a purl parser for

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maytars years ago.

27:34.360 --> 27:39.280
Yeah, I've seen that actually,
um, it's, uh, it was on, uh,
there's a fresh meat project

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page for it, uh, the GO maytars,
that what it is, um, yeah, well,
the service that I'm using,

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I don't remember what it's
called, uh, they seem to, maybe
they're using a version of it.

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That's very possible.

27:52.040 --> 27:56.960
Let me see, what I use is, uh,
so that's just, it enables me to
put in the

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aviation, uh, code for the
airport that I'm looking for and
it gives me the aviation

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weather.

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What is it?

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TMG TMDG.co.uk interesting.

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That's where that's where I get
it from aviation information and
weather, right?

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Yeah.

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www.tmdg.co.uk.

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Okay.

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So, um, I don't know if you've
seen this thing, this, um, dig
spy page, which to me is like

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the ultimate aggregator if
you're looking for, you know,
slash dot type geeky type stuff.

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It's, uh, an Ajax based web page
and you, you put your browser on
that page and it just

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starts to scroll with just all
these digs that are coming in of
stories mainly technology

28:38.040 --> 28:39.040
related.

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And it's fantastic, you know,
that is truly the river of news.

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Um, and it's, and I like it
because it's, you know, when I'm
interested in tech news,

28:46.440 --> 28:51.000
I can go there and it just kind
of flows down my screen and I
can click on something

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when I think it's interesting.

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I'd love to be able to have, you
know, dig sites for all
different types of topics.

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I know that dig has categories
and stuff, but it's still mainly
a tech oriented community.

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Um, but something, excuse me,
I'm not even drinking this and
say, I'm drinking tea.

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Something that showed up
multiple times is, uh, this
Hallophonic MP3 sound.

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Apparently, um, there's this
file done by, uh, uh, a company
and out there, I think, in

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Switzerland, that has made a
Hallophonic sound embedded into
an MP3.

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I don't know if there's any
technology behind it.

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I was, you know, I was rushed
and too lazy to figure it out,
but I figured we would

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listen to their example file
together.

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It's supposed to give a complete
spatial effect.

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Um, so you can even hear sound
above and below you.

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So I have not listened to this
myself yet.

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Let's just listen in.

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Okay, good, good left and right
separation.

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There you go.

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The matches flew over my head.

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That was kind of cool.

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Cool, that way, I'll be over
here, well, the guy with the
matches comes back this way,

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we're in across each other in
the middle, come on, come on
over here.

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Okay, stay over there if you
want.

30:47.120 --> 30:55.480
Okay, if you're going to walk
that way, I'm going to step over
here.

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Okay, okay, it's driving me
nuts.

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Yeah, my God.

30:59.600 --> 31:04.520
Uh, all right, where are we, pod
safe music video stuff?

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Oh, yeah, apparently this kind
of sucks, apparently there was a
video was made of pod safe

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for peace, but I guess it didn't
work out, you know, and the
reasons being that it all

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had to be worked out was slow in
Orlando who wrote the song,
which is, of course, you

31:24.360 --> 31:31.880
know, when I said, hey, you
know, I'm looking for people to
start creating music videos

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of pod safe music, maybe I
should clarify that, this all
does become a part of the
unlabel

31:39.000 --> 31:42.280
if you will, which we've talked
about before.

31:42.280 --> 31:46.960
What I think will happen, or
what we're actually, you know,
designing and building right

31:46.960 --> 31:53.720
now is let's say you're a video
maker, a music video maker,
you'll just call yourself

31:53.720 --> 31:57.880
that, pod safe music video
person.

31:57.960 --> 32:01.480
I believe that there should be
able to, you know, we should be
able to come to an agreement

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between artists and the pod safe
music video makers, so that you
can, you, you can basically

32:07.720 --> 32:13.440
put images, synchronize images
to their soundtrack.

32:13.440 --> 32:19.080
And the entire point being that
you would have an affiliate and
an affiliation with that

32:19.080 --> 32:23.520
artist, so that when someone
watched the video, the concept
is, of course, they will want

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to go and buy something from
that artist.

32:26.520 --> 32:33.400
And just like Amazon, you would
click into their store or
whatever, and you'd get referral

32:33.400 --> 32:34.400
fees.

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And I think that that's part of
what the unlabel is going to
look like.

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Everybody should be able to have
a record label because what is a
record label?

32:41.560 --> 32:42.960
It is promotion.

32:42.960 --> 32:46.000
Now that we know the technology
is not important.

32:46.000 --> 32:52.040
Of course, you know, the record
labels have an art department
and they can connect writers

32:52.280 --> 32:53.280
with these musicians.

32:53.280 --> 32:59.000
You know, that's, that's really
when you're trying to, you know,
you, that's like a laboratory.

32:59.000 --> 33:03.720
I don't believe too much in
that, I think it's much better
to have a community of people

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who hang out and meet each
other, which, of course, the pod
safe music networks should

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also turn into that if we put
some, like, forums and stuff,
but there are ways to make

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this work.

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And at the end of the day, I
think everyone will be able to
benefit.

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So, I don't know, just brain
farting here.

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What's this?

33:20.120 --> 33:22.560
That's a video feedback which I
want to share with you.

33:22.560 --> 33:26.560
You won't be able to watch the
video, but the audio will be
sufficient.

33:26.560 --> 33:31.600
So, Guy and his kitchen, and in
the background, a sense out.

33:31.600 --> 33:37.080
And this is a response to the
endless source of throughout the
6th and seems to about

33:37.080 --> 33:40.160
a port safe music, let's give
him some cues.

33:40.160 --> 33:49.400
You've spoken about video
drivers making videos for
artists.

33:49.400 --> 33:56.600
Well, I got into folk
broadcasting for the other way
around, I needed some music to
go with

33:56.600 --> 33:59.440
my skateboard videos.

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So, I want to join you, the pod
safe music network, and see if
you need your feet.

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I just started my own feet, got
my own domain name and name,
what a good way to start

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2,000 to 6th.

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So, if I can help some artists
with names on video, I'm very
glad to do so.

34:24.480 --> 34:29.880
Now he's making a couple of
sense sails, nice close up with
a machine.

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You can find the more info about
my video project on
www.yolo.com.

34:41.960 --> 34:49.120
Cheers, and people to do the
work in 2006.

34:49.120 --> 34:55.840
Music I use is MinWitDrop from
Bang Out Production, which I
found the pod safe music
network.

34:55.840 --> 35:00.480
So that's YoDo.com,
J-O-H-D-O.com.

35:00.480 --> 35:02.800
So that's exactly what I was
talking about.

35:02.800 --> 35:05.960
He wants to help out artists by
making cool music videos.

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I think he should be able to do
that, and yeah, I told you that
people who are working

35:09.480 --> 35:12.800
really hard between Christmas
and New Year's, not includes
work on the pod safe music

35:12.800 --> 35:14.960
network to get the sails
generation.

35:14.960 --> 35:20.320
Thank you, by the way, for all
the feedback you've given about
means of payment, I can

35:20.320 --> 35:24.000
tell you now that we definitely
want to use multiple forms of
payment.

35:24.000 --> 35:28.640
So cell phone will be one way,
would of course a credit card or
PayPal will be another way

35:28.640 --> 35:31.360
to purchase from the pod safe
music network.

35:31.360 --> 35:38.280
Working on the licenses, the
agreements that the artists,
because they'll be able to

35:38.280 --> 35:42.840
opt in whether they want to sell
or not, they won't be obliged to
sell.

35:42.840 --> 35:46.600
We have to put in some
technology for that preference,
they say, you know, make this
track

35:46.600 --> 35:52.800
available for sale, all of that
stuff, and it's a lot of work
really is.

35:52.880 --> 35:57.880
I think that as I said, you
know, going out to San
Francisco, this coming weekend
will

35:57.880 --> 35:59.280
be testing in the next week.

35:59.280 --> 36:02.840
So, well, hopefully we'll see
some features come online in
about 14 days.

36:02.840 --> 36:08.280
Hey Adam, this is Sean J from
Shakespeare Cast, calling
actually for a couple of reasons

36:08.280 --> 36:09.280
one.

36:09.280 --> 36:14.000
I'm trying out this whole
listening to your broad cast and
having an idea and popping out

36:14.000 --> 36:18.240
my eye talk and popping it on
there and leaving a comment, so
we'll see if that works.

36:18.240 --> 36:22.760
But the second reason I'm
actually calling the main reason
is that behind schedule on

36:22.840 --> 36:25.560
you, I'm listening to 303 right
now.

36:25.560 --> 36:31.560
And you were talking about some
more of the, you know,
pay-per-song stuff on a pod
show, music

36:31.560 --> 36:32.560
network.

36:32.560 --> 36:39.560
And I got this idea, if there's
a way that you could set it up
to have people who are

36:39.560 --> 36:44.880
purchasing, let you know which
podcast they heard the song on
or that referred them

36:44.880 --> 36:45.880
there.

36:45.880 --> 36:50.200
That would be just another
thing, a way to collect data as
far as, you know, where people

36:50.280 --> 36:55.160
are here in the tunes and who's
recommending them and that kind
of thing.

36:55.160 --> 36:59.160
We only do one song in episode,
just kind of tagged on at the
end there and it's mostly

36:59.160 --> 37:01.440
the popular stuff that you guys
are playing.

37:01.440 --> 37:07.200
But I thought, God, how cool
would it be for people to know
exactly where these revenues

37:07.200 --> 37:13.320
coming from, you know, accident
ashes is drawing so many
listeners to purchase this song

37:13.320 --> 37:16.160
or your show, et cetera, et
cetera.

37:16.160 --> 37:21.680
And then you could even throw,
you know, maybe a penny per
purchase to that podcast.

37:21.680 --> 37:24.480
And you could do it all, you
know, we have to be registered
with the Pod Safe Music

37:24.480 --> 37:25.480
Network.

37:25.480 --> 37:27.480
So we've already got accounts.

37:27.480 --> 37:29.480
So you could just link it up
that way.

37:29.480 --> 37:32.560
Of course, that means that money
for you to buy a new guy.

37:32.560 --> 37:37.240
Oh, sorry about that.

37:37.240 --> 37:40.080
The hell was that all about?

37:40.080 --> 37:44.080
Sometimes when Mac does that, it
goes into this audio loop for no
reason.

37:44.080 --> 37:46.680
This is something I noticed with
this new power book ever since I
got it.

37:46.680 --> 37:49.320
It hasn't happened in a long
time.

37:49.320 --> 37:51.480
Anyway, I think it was really
clear what he was saying.

37:51.480 --> 37:53.560
Brilliant minds, think like,
there you go.

37:53.560 --> 37:55.480
It's exactly what it is.

37:55.480 --> 37:59.080
It's a referral program and I
think it will work that way.

37:59.080 --> 38:03.960
And I think, in this case, we
have a basis product which is a
music which people are

38:03.960 --> 38:11.280
used to paying for and artists
are also used to understand that
there's a chain, a sales

38:11.280 --> 38:18.680
chain and if we do it based upon
the principles of Amazon, you
know, there's an affiliate

38:18.680 --> 38:19.680
relationship.

38:19.680 --> 38:23.440
All of that stuff comes into
play and I think everyone, as I
said, everybody can benefit

38:23.440 --> 38:26.280
and listeners should be able to
do that as well.

38:26.280 --> 38:31.160
And the way you do this is by
creating a network.

38:31.160 --> 38:36.880
And the network means that, you
know, we all agree to certain
things and obviously with

38:36.880 --> 38:41.240
any network, I'm going to be
involved in there's going to be
a great amount of control

38:41.480 --> 38:46.200
if not actually I should say
this one thing we've always
stood for is I don't care what

38:46.200 --> 38:51.480
you're doing on your podcast as
long as you're keeping your
audience growing your audience

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and having a damn good time, a
skipy good time, a CC which it
would say.

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But that's what it is.

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It's putting a network together
and the network includes parties
who all have some

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equal say in this and it's the
creative people who are
consuming at the same time.

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It's listeners, viewers, readers
and there's also people who want
to market and advertise

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to these groups and we have to
have this dialogue ongoing to
figure out how we put it

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together.

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I tell you what, you know,
people listening to this show,
you've been really vocal.

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You really help me make a case
towards some major advertisers
about how we talk about

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products and how we sell
products and even if we're
interested in selling products.

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So it's been great and I really
appreciate it.

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And this was a big hit.

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On the other night, when I
drove, when I picked up
Christina from a party and drove
her

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friend of hers home, I cranked
this one up in the shaggy one.

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Farts are so fragile, they're
fashioned from gas, why must we
squeeze just to help them

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[ Music ]

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can understand that teenage
girls were totally into this,
right?

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Cookie Cutter Girl, aka Lynn
Julian, if Farts were made out
of super ball stuff, that's it
for

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today's Daily Source Code, I'll
be back tomorrow, and then we
wind up the week just before I

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head off to San Francisco,
thanks for listening, thanks for
staying subscribe to
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