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Delta Sierra Charley

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320

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A year of Charlie heading
forward the highway, looking for
adventure and what it

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becomes a bad save.

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It's gonna be Friday, it's gonna
be Friday, it's gonna be Friday.

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What yes?

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There's no sailbodies on methane
hyper.

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The drink too much coffee and
fun to guess today.

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When you're locomotive down the
Stratford,

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a filler owner with 16 gallons
of flammable waste

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wrapped in my ass and the
destruction of the music
industry in my ears

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I like to think I'm a greasing
up the future.

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Delta Sierra Charley is still
doingafood.

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Little loose Cristo Wagyu

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Listen,

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It's first round's on me.

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All right, Adam, have a good
weekend.

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Oh man, where's the stopwatch?

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Oh, yes, everybody, one more day
before I get to go home.

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Once again from the Curry condo,
Danny Sorsko.

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For fuck's sake!

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Are you ready?

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Let's party!

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Keep me hanging on now, baby.

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[ Music ]

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Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
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on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on, hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on

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Friday and my last day of our to
the two week, the two week stay
here in the condo and

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really winding things up exactly
the way I'd hope they would time
out.

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Got a whole lot of stuff
accomplished today.

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Whew, I'm ready to go home, I
must say.

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I missed the girls terribly.

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And you know, for all the shit I
give Apple, thank you so much
for I chat.

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I mean, just we've got an eye
Mac here and an eye Mac at the
cottage.

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And it's just so easy, you know,
Patricia can use it.

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And if she runs into trouble, I
can always just SSH in and fire
up VNC,

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young in the command line and
help her out.

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You know, it's kind of like the
air traffic control helping the
stewarders land the jump

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both seven, four, seven, young
on me.

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And so that's good that really
has made all these trips a lot
easier to bear.

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Because I miss them.

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But soon I'll be back in my
girls arms.

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Let me see where to start.

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It's early Friday morning here
in San Francisco.

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Got to get a head start on stuff
because we got quite a full day,
you know,

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keeping it going all the way to
the very very end.

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And then of course tonight I'm
hanging out with my buddy Greg.

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I'm going to have dinner with
him and his son Zach.

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And then I'll be heading home
tomorrow.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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Okay, so here's what happened
today.

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Oh, man.

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So I call Patricia on the eye
chat and we were chatting.

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Oh, um, did you read my email?

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And of course, uh, and this
would make most of you feel
really good.

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Who sent me email and didn't get
a reply for some reason in the
past.

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As early as yesterday.

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As a reason as yesterday.

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Um, so she had sent that it, you
know, sometimes I was clearly
asleep because of the time
difference.

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And it had already scrolled way
down the list.

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So I had not seen it not.

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It wasn't on the the main, you
know, the the first screen when
you log in to Gmail.

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You know, it's more than 40
messages or whatever it is, 50
messages.

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And, uh, I said, no, I said,
hold on.

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We pull it up.

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Okay.

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So here's what happened.

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This is now this is quite a
story.

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Now, you know that we left the
Netherlands a year and a half
ago.

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Um, really, uh, because, well,
we did a number of things.

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You know, we, uh, sold most of
our stuff, our houses,
everything.

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Just said, screw it.

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We're going to go chill out,
rent a place for a while.

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Figure out we want to live
settled down a bit.

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No attention.

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Just don't want anyone hanging
out.

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Now, you'll recall if you are a
longer term listener to the
source code.

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You'll recall that, uh, we were
in the cottage for a little
under a year.

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It must have been what six, four
months ago, five months ago.

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And some paparazzi showed up
from a magazine.

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Okay.

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So that really sucked and, you
know, they had gotten from a
database of magazine
subscriptions from their
publisher.

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So partially our fault, I guess.

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You know, the one subscription
we carried over, they, they used
to find their address.

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So of course, that's not known
in the paparazzi world.

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And, uh, so there's this
magazine called Weekend, which
is, uh,

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builds itself as a
family-oriented magazine.

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But it's a, it's a gossip rag.

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Um, came out, I guess, Wednesday
in the Netherlands with front
page of Patricia.

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And, uh, man, it's one of these
pictures where she, uh,

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she's walking out of Sainsbury
from doing shopping, right?

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And it was really, really cold
that day.

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And so she has, uh, kind of like
a wool hat over her overhead.

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You know, to keep a nice one,
we're pulled down pretty low.

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And, uh, you know how it works
if you take 10 pictures of
someone in quick succession.

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There's always a shitty one in
there.

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So, of course, they take this
shitty one.

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And then, um, it says drama.

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Literally drama.

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Um, and this is a whole cover
page.

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On the inside, now check this.

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They took pictures from my, um,
weblog.

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Actually, um, there are pictures
that are posted on my flicker
site.

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But, uh, I guess, uh, there must
have been some links to it from,
uh, from my weblog.

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And one of them is a, is a full
page again, almost.

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Of a shot that I took of
Christina and Patricia in a limo
in New York.

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And another one is the three of
us sitting on a, on a,

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a bench in New York in Central
Park and, you know,

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me taking the picture with my
arm extended.

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And, uh, so the story basically
is, um,

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they, you know, they're
pretending that everything is
all fine.

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But Adam has been away from home
a lot lately.

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And therefore it's drama.

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Things are not going well.

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So, you know, that's kind of,
you know, we can laugh about
that.

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And although it's, um, it's kind
of the price you pay, you know,

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that, uh, that people are
basically fucking stalking you
and following you around

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and taking pictures of you, um,
you know,

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and that they say stupid shit
like that.

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Yeah, okay.

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So, well, we all know what I'm
doing.

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And I'm over here.

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I'm back and forth.

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You know, I'm, uh, trying to
make it all work.

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And we're all making it work.

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And the sacrifices that
everybody makes.

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You know, yeah, I believe me,
you know,

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you could follow around Bill
Gates's wife or Steve Jobs's
wife or

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the CEO of Shell or any other
corporation.

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And particularly a smaller
startup companies.

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You know, there's a lot of work
involved.

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So, that's not really fair
statement, but for any woman,
any woman

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to have a picture taken of them
when the just, you know,

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when it just isn't the picture
you want, you know,

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and it's easy to make someone
look like shit.

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And of course, my wife could
never look like shit,

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but I know what she's thinking
when she sees a picture like
this.

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Okay, so it should happens,
right?

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We don't live there.

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So it's not all that bad and
whatever.

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And they can write whatever they
want about me.

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I don't care.

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However, two things, the most
important one,

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and this is just amazing for a
so-called family magazine.

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They published the name and
location of my daughter's
school,

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15-year-old daughter of my
daughter's school.

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And then just are very happy to
mention that,

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and a cab picks up and drops her
off every single day.

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That is endangerment.

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All it takes, you know, of
course, we've now changed that.

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This is why I'm going to tell
you this.

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But all it takes is one idiot to
say, hey, now that's kind of
cool.

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If I just pretend I'm a cab
driver, I can get their
daughter.

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You know, it's unbelievable.

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I just can't, that really,
really pissed me off.

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You know, that's just upsetting.

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And especially, of course, we're
lucky.

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And fortunately, nothing has
happened.

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And you know, this has only been
publicized for two days.

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So I guess we're okay there.

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But, you know, in pictures of my
house, of course.

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And there's all, you know, it's
all under the freedom of the
press.

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So I'm just really upset about
that.

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Because you can say what you
want about me,

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and Patricia's the same way.

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And you know, it's like you can
say, you can make up anything
you want about us and our
relationship.

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We've been married for almost 20
years.

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You know, nothing is going to
phase us.

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But stay the fuck away from my
kid.

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And so, you know, usually, and
they've written about us a lot.

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And usually on the guy that
says, ah, you know, whatever,
you know, let them go.

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You know, I'd be much rather be
yapping about pod safe music or
about pod show or doing some
cool stuff.

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I don't want to spend any
negative energy working on
backwards stuff, right?

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Particularly not in other
countries.

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Just like who cares?

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It's too bad for my family and
for Patricia's family.

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They have to deal with that
shit.

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People always asking him about
it.

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But okay, you know, so that's
the way it goes.

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But this time, first of all, I'm
really upset about what they've
done,

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which just shows total lack of
understanding of what it is to
have a family.

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Secondly, and this is where they
tripped.

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And this is going to be very
interesting.

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If you look at any of the
pickers, pickers, any of the
pickers on my flicker side, any
of the pictures on my flicker
side.

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You'll see that they are
published under a Creative
Commons license.

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Specifically, the attribution
non-commercial share a like
license, which means you can
share this picture.

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You can copy it.

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You can do basically anything
you want to do under the
following conditions.

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One, you provide attribution,
which means you have to point a
link back to where the original
is.

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And you have to say that's mine
and copyright, whatever.

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That's pretty normal.

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Share a like means you can't
mess with it.

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You have to share it the same
manner.

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And non-commercial means you
cannot use it for commercial
use.

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So that's how we're going to sue
them.

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And I called my lawyers and I
said, you know what?

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Now is the time.

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Now we're going to go get these
fuckers.

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It's going to be very
interesting to see what the
value of my Creative Commons
license is.

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I'm pretty sure it's a shoe in,
but it's going to be very
interesting to see that.

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And endangerment of a child.

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So we're going to basically say
you have to pull that magazine
off the racks entirely.

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Every single one has to be
recalled from the stores.

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And on top of that, of course,
we want to rectify the
situation.

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So we'll get the same amount of
page space and cover space.

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And because there's no money in
this shit.

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You know, it's like, yeah, I'm
sure we'll sue for damages.

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But the Netherlands is such a
socialist fucked up court system
with no jury by the way.

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It's a professional judge that
makes the decision.

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So there's, there's not any
money in it, but I just can't
believe.

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And we also were, we're suing
the, the editor himself.

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It's anyway.

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So, you know, it was kind of
like a night in, in shining
armor.

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You know, my girls were bombed,
you know.

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And they've been waiting for me
to get up to call them for them
to lay all the shit on me.

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And they were, you know,
obviously bummed out.

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And so I came into action for
the first time.

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I'm actually going to go after
one of these magazines.

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It's, uh, you just cross the
line.

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So one legally on the pictures.

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That's theft and the arrogance
of that.

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The arrogance that you think
that you can take something off
of a website and publish it in a
magazine.

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What arrogance?

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You know, if we turn around, if
we take something of yours, how
fast your lawyers are here.

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Now watch my boys, okay?

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Have you ever seen the discovery
channel where, like the, the
Orca whale, it gets beached.

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Or it comes up on the beach and
it grabs a little, uh, a little
baby seal.

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And then he keeps him in his
mouth and they slings him in the
air, like 30 feet and he lands
the further up.

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And he go get some, he catches
him in his mouth and they're
playing with him back and forth.

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Like a beach ball.

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That's what my lawyers are going
to do to you.

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Okay?

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Ha, man.

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It's Friday.

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Okay.

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So I was going to, um, open up
the testing for the podsafe
music, podsafe music network
today.

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To test the purchasing.

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Um, oh, man, we had a great
meeting today about, uh, you
know, how we want to put all
this in place,

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about, uh, the pricing and
really about the creation of the
unlabel.

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And I want to talk a little bit
about that right now because
when we open this up,

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there's a number of elements to
it.

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And I just want to explain.

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If we were to just go and
recreate iTunes for independent
music, that would be dumb.

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You know, we really want to see
if we can change something.

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This is what they call that blue
ocean strategy or whatever.

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I think, um, the following
scenario is something that we
want to experiment with.

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So first of all, we all know
that these are free and clear
MP3.

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So we're, and this is, this is
big thing.

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Okay?

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We're basically saying, uh,
we're believing in humanity here
and all the artists who, uh,

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participate in this will, will
pretty much be doing the same.

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Consumers have not really had an
opportunity on any reasonable
marketed scale, um,

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you know, to show that they will
pay from music and, and, and,
and respect rights of authors,

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um, within, you know, some kind
of boundaries that will make it
work for everybody.

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Uh, so that's the big risk right
there.

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But I, I have just a belief in
humanity.

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So, you know, I'm, I'm just
feeling good about the fact that
that'll work.

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Now, look at where artists are
today.

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Um, you don't need a record
label, a record company, because
you can get all the pieces that
a record label

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offers independently and, and
it's available out there.

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Okay?

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So let's say, in a traditional
recording contract, you get, um,
financing of the recording of
your album.

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Well, you know, everybody can
use garage band.

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And that stuff's been leveled
out.

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Okay?

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Now distribution, distribution
is obviously the piece that, um,

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iTunes has done a great job at
enabling people to purchase
individual tracks.

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Uh, of course, um, there's, uh,
there's a few issues with
iTunes.

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One is you can't really go as an
independent artist just to list
a track.

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You have to go through what they
call an aggregator.

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CD Baby would be an example of
that.

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And it takes a long time.

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You know, you can't really just
say, I want to sell something
today right now.

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It can take a couple weeks,
which makes it very hard to
implement your marketing plan.

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Um, so record companies spend a
lot of money on marketing and
paying radio stations.

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Uh, or paying radio stations to
keep them friendly.

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So they will, uh, then don't
really pay for play.

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But there's all kinds of money
transactions going back and
forth.

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Um, so, but, you know, they work
it.

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They have independent promoters.

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These guys go out and work it
and get the record played and
the record played.

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Reports the billboard and then
billboard, uh,

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shows chart activity and then
you might get an article.

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And then if there's enough
budget, they'll do a video clip.

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And you get that on MTV and
body, body, body, body, body.

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That's how the whole thing goes.

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So in our world, which is
completely separate, but has an
amazing amount of distribution.

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We have podcasters who through
the pod safe music network can
play the songs.

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Now, if we have a thousand
podcasts with a thousand
listeners,

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playing one song that's a
million impressions, a million
spins.

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That's the equivalent of having
a huge radio air play in
traditional radio.

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So if you have a million people,
I can only presume that what?

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Maybe 1% will show up and buy.

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Now, with 99 cents, you're
talking about some serious rent
money,

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beer money, whatever you want.

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So how does that piece kind of
flow from a podcaster playing
it?

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Podcaster plays a song says,
hey, like today I played was a
valley lodge hanging on.

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Go to my show notes if you like
the song.

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And there will be a link.

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And you click on the link and
you'll go into the artist's
page.

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It's very much like it happens
right now.

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You can go to my show notes and
see it at any time.

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It takes you straight to the
artist's page.

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But then there will be a
by-link.

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And the by-link right now, we
are doing worldwide credit
cards.

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So anywhere you are, you'll be
able to register.

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And you only have to enter your
card details once.

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You know, it's like a real
store.

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And we have a partner for that
who does it all secure.

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You know, we don't want to be a
credit card transaction company.

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We want your details to be
completely safe, obviously.

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Then you are shuddled back after
you've purchased.

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You come back to, we don't
really have a name for you.

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But I guess you're your
collection or whatever.

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You'll have a little bit of
space or not a little bit of
space.

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You'll have an area within your
account on the pod save music
network.

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Oh yeah, listeners will have an
account now, of course.

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And everything you purchase will
be in there.

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And it'll just stay in there,
okay?

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So it's not like iTunes where if
you lose the file, you can't get
it back.

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No, it's there.

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And you can just go back and
download it again.

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Now, of course, you should be
able to load it on any device.

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And it played anywhere you want.

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But we want to encourage people
if they turn other people onto
the music

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to get their friends to buy a
copy as well.

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Now that piece going from the
show notes into the purchase
system,

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we feel that that is an
important part of the unlabel.

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And that podcasters should be
able to participate in sending
someone over there to buy.

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So we're going to make it so
that they become a part of the
marketing program of that song
or that artist.

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And that they get a piece of the
transaction.

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Now, of course, we'll make it so
that you can put a link and you
don't have to be a podcaster.

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If you just want to promote
someone, you could basically
have your own little mini record
label.

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By promoting all the songs that
you want and being able to point
right into the store.

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And just like any other
affiliate program,

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only I think you'll see that we
have some benefit and we'll be
working very closely with the
independent promoters of music,

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whether the podcasters or
listeners.

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And then the circle is complete.

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You know, what else do you need?

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Is there anything else that a
traditional record company can
bring to the table?

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I don't think so.

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Oh, shoot.

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I'm glad I got most of that out
because it was important that
the folks on the satellite hear
about that because we got some
cool stuff happening here in
podcasting.

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And actually, I'm coming to New
York on the, was it the week of
the 12th going to be dropping by
a serious HQ and going to be
talking to the big way.

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Actually, Scott Greenstein,
major big way about what we can
do with pod safe music on
serious satellite.

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Anyway, serious listeners have a
great weekend. I will catch you
guys on Monday.

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So we here on the podcast can
just to happily continue.

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Okay, so do you understand why
I'm really excited about this?

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Because I can't see any other
piece.

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Well, yeah, I mean, the only
thing you could argue is that
record companies have a and our
guys and a people who hook up
musicians with producers and
writers and videographers.

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Hey, guess what?

24:53.540 --> 24:55.540
That's called the social
network.

24:55.540 --> 25:00.540
You know, we're going to be
building that so that we can
also facilitate within the
network.

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People who are writers who want
to hook up with musicians.

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Look what we did with pod safe
for peace for Christ's sake.

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It was just an idea.

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Within two weeks, we had 32
artists all together doing a
song.

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And, and selling it with the
proceeds going to UNICEF.

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Okay.

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So anyway, because we won't
actually do the final testing of
every single piece of the track.

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You know, we want to make sure
that the transaction part is
really, you know, that we have
all the security down for that.

25:35.540 --> 25:37.540
It's going to have to wait until
Monday.

25:37.540 --> 25:42.540
I know you may bummed out and
you wanted to try it.

25:42.540 --> 25:46.540
We'll, we'll basically have
that, I think by Monday we'll
have it up and running.

25:46.540 --> 25:54.540
I just, you know, it's, it's,
but it's all going to be baited
stuff anyway and we're really,
you know, testing it out with
the amongst ourselves here.

25:54.540 --> 25:59.540
So it'll only be, you know, like
maybe one song you can test it
out on just to get your account
up and up and rolling.

25:59.540 --> 26:07.540
And then, of course, it'll be up
to the artist to select which
tracks they want us to, they
don't have to sell, by the way,
to select which tracks they want
to sell.

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We'll test that part out amongst
ourselves.

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And while we're doing that,
we'll get this, the unlabeled
pieces in place so that people
can start promoting music and we
can all participate in this.

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And I, for one, really looking
forward to getting it all
together.

26:24.540 --> 26:36.540
So apologize, you know, a little
bit of a delay, but give me a
little, a little time to get
home and have sex.

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That's not right. That's really
funky. How did that happen?

26:50.540 --> 27:05.540
I was like, wait a minute, this
is not the promo.

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What was thinking it was? Wow.
I'm using cast blaster, which
you probably know, but that's
really weird.

27:13.540 --> 27:21.540
Someone, I was trying to play
one of the cart things and for
some reason, the hanging on
kicked in again.

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Let me see if it works now.
There we go.

27:30.540 --> 27:46.540
Hey, this is KFC from the pod
chick show and we're in the big
time. We're in the big time. Hey
Adam, thank you so much for all
of your help over the past few
months getting into podcasting
and being so pod father Lee.

27:46.540 --> 27:51.540
I really appreciate it. And wow,
look at how far we have all
come.

27:51.540 --> 27:59.540
What an amazing, amazing ride
we're having. And I'm so looking
forward to riding some more as a
member of the pod show family.

27:59.540 --> 28:09.540
Thank so much for having me. I'm
so, so glad to be part of this
new venture and this new
industry. We're changing the
world, man. We sure are.

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For those of you who don't know,
I am the pod chick and our whole
theme is positive vibe
podcasting.

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Check out our show and learn to
live your life a little bit more
rich. We have a positive vibe
message every show.

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And we just try to have a little
fun along the way. We're looking
forward to having you join us.

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Check out our videos too. We've
got some skydiving and some hot
chicks dancing. You know,
regular stuff like that.

28:34.540 --> 28:41.540
So with that, I look forward to
working with everybody from the
pod show and I'm just so happy
that things are working out the
way they are.

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And wow, happy 2006. What a way
to start it off. Hey, like we
say on the pod chick show, make
them smile.

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Dan poets. All right, what up,
Jay Mack?

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I see you. What up, Detroit?
George, what up, Phoenix?

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Come on, this area. Stand the
fuck out. Let's go.

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Let's go. Listen.

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It's good.

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Hi.

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Dot. Come.

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It's all good.

29:12.540 --> 30:36.250
[ Music ]

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Yeah. I love the hood high
promos.

30:39.540 --> 30:43.540
I sent that one over to the
execs. It's serious too.

30:43.540 --> 30:47.540
Got to hear this. It's like an
awesome fantastic.

30:47.540 --> 30:52.540
You might hear my T-Cettle in
the background there.

30:52.540 --> 30:55.540
Yeah. What was it going to say?

30:55.540 --> 30:59.540
Oh, pod chick. Yeah. So pod
chick welcoming her to the
families.

30:59.540 --> 31:03.540
So what we're doing with all
these people who are joining the
network.

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They are going to actually be
beta testers at the same time as
they're joining the network.

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They're going to help us work on
the new systems.

31:11.540 --> 31:13.540
The pod cast delivery network.

31:13.540 --> 31:17.540
You know, this is not something
that you just open up and say,

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Here it is. Come on in. It's
fantastic.

31:19.540 --> 31:23.540
You know, I'm really, really
careful about that because we're
talking about

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Lots of people who are, you
know, very serious about pod
casting.

31:27.540 --> 31:30.540
We don't want feed, screwed up,
and stuff like that.

31:30.540 --> 31:32.540
I mean, and shit happens, right?

31:32.540 --> 31:35.540
You know, software sucks
sometimes and just shit breaks.

31:35.540 --> 31:39.540
And it just happens. So we got
to be careful when we do this.

31:39.540 --> 31:41.540
So the first people that are
coming in,

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We, you know, who've been
diligently working with on the,

31:46.540 --> 31:51.540
They've actually helped us, you
know, create our agreements.

31:51.540 --> 31:57.540
You know, really been able to
refine the offering that we have
for pod casters.

31:57.540 --> 32:00.540
And then not only going to be
using the pod cast,

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Liberty network interface
interfaces, I might say,

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But also the, the listener
portion.

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And this is the stuff, of
course, that we're going to use
to lure in our hundreds of
millions of listeners.

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And so, you know, based upon
their feedback,

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And that'll take, you know, a
couple of feedback loops,

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And we'll open it up to more,
and then eventually we'll open
it up to everybody.

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Yeah, I was, you know, I was
saying that it was like 15
million things went through my
head.

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And I can't remember what they
were.

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Oh, yes, okay.

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Let me see what's this.

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I have so many, you know, I have
like seven more things I want to
talk about.

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So I hope you're in the mood for
it because it is Friday.

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We're off the side like the
windows closed.

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Let's just continue on and just
do this whole thing.

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Okay, okay.

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That gave me just enough time to
grab the tea, slap in a tea bag.

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Oh, I can't wait for some sale
when I get something.

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Some sense, some sense, some
sense sale when I get back home.

33:37.540 --> 33:39.540
Let me tell you.

33:39.540 --> 33:41.540
So I've been using cast blaster.

33:41.540 --> 33:45.540
And I think I've gotten a much
better, a much better sound
together.

33:45.540 --> 33:49.540
In fact, let me just see some
feedback here.

33:49.540 --> 33:53.540
It was actually pretty funny
from podcast crew budget.

33:53.540 --> 33:56.540
I thought you were supposed to
be the best of the best, the pod
father.

33:56.540 --> 33:58.540
So what's the deal with your
shitty sound production?

33:58.540 --> 34:01.540
Every time I listen to your
show, your pod safe music, skips
and pops.

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Are you going to blame that on
your piece of crap?

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Mac too?

34:04.540 --> 34:06.540
Interesting thing, Adam, is that
your show is not live.

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Did you know that means you can
give it a listen and fix
somebody's things

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before sending it out?

34:11.540 --> 34:14.540
Yeah, that would make me like
mainstream, dude.

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So I guess Jack asks, oh, I'm
sorry.

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Podcast crew budget, who calls
me a jackass,

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hasn't heard the cast blaster
shows yet.

34:21.540 --> 34:22.540
We've gotten it down much
better.

34:22.540 --> 34:24.540
I really liked yesterday's show.

34:24.540 --> 34:25.540
I thought the sound was pretty
good.

34:25.540 --> 34:28.540
Now that turned off the internal
limit, or it's still working on
it a bit.

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I did actually, I got a note
from Mark Yoshimoto Nemkov from
Pacifico's Hellway.

34:33.540 --> 34:35.540
He says, dude, I'm curious.

34:35.540 --> 34:38.540
What EQ and compression are you
using on your voice?

34:38.540 --> 34:43.540
It sounds really fucking good,
especially the last couple of
days since you migrated to cast
blaster.

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Yeah, I don't know, Mark.

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That's the secret of the Big
Hared Fag, man.

34:47.540 --> 34:49.540
You know, I can't go telling you
all that.

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Because, you know, then you'll
be a big Hared Fag like me, too.

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I got a, you know, I had asked,
or I just been kind of talking
about some of the stuff that I
was experiencing with, with cast
blaster.

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And, well, you know, there is a
community for this, this is a
wonderful program.

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Oh, shoot, I remember I was
going to say before.

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Let me just write it down so I
don't forget.

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Sorry.

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I forgot again, no hold on.

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I'm so fried.

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Okay, let me just write that
down.

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There's quite a cast blaster
community that you can find at
castblaster.com.

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And the community is taking note
of my, of my recent switch.

35:34.540 --> 35:37.540
And here's some feedback.

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Hey, Adam, this is Barry J, cast
blaster form moderator over
castblaster.com.

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Hey, the other day on DSC 317,
you were complaining about the
card buttons on cast blaster.

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And the fact they don't have
countdown clocks.

35:53.540 --> 35:54.540
Well, that's true.

35:54.540 --> 35:56.540
They don't have countdown
clocks.

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But they do have progress bars.

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Is that little thin line under
each button.

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So when you press a button like
this.

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I'm asking for a new Hampshire.

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This is Radio QRM.

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The progress bar actually turns
green as your promo or bumper
plays.

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Okay, now it's time for the
shameless plug.

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I now have a podcast.

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It's called Radio QRM.

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It's a weekly mix of pod safe
music from where else the pod
safe music network.

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And it sounds something like
this.

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Yeah.

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Right on Barry.

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So, you know, it's funny
because.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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This is Radio QRM.

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So I was listening to that
comment earlier today at the
office.

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I'm like holy crap.

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They're actually our progress.

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They're great progress bars and
countdown timers under the track
players in the cast blaster.

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But I hadn't seen.

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It's funny.

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The progress bars underneath the
cart buttons.

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And the reason why is because
the angle, you know,

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this thing is on the on the
countertop and the open kitchen
thing here in the condo.

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And I'm significantly taller.

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It's really just too low for
what I'm doing.

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So the angle that I'm looking at
the laptop screen doesn't
actually.

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Translate all of what's going on
the screen.

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And when I got really close, see
if I go down here, I can see it.

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I'm straight looking straight
into the screen.

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But of course, I can't see the
mic.

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Indeed, there's a progress bar
there.

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Holy crap.

37:47.540 --> 37:51.540
A lot of that stuff that I was,
and by the way, I don't think I
was complaining.

37:51.540 --> 37:53.540
It's called feedback.

37:53.540 --> 37:56.540
You know, complaining is, I'm,
I'm a lady, man.

37:56.540 --> 37:57.540
This is great.

37:57.540 --> 38:00.540
You know, I'm no fan of windows.

38:00.540 --> 38:04.540
But hey, look, I can use unique
some machines.

38:04.540 --> 38:06.540
I can use dust machines.

38:06.540 --> 38:07.540
I can use max.

38:07.540 --> 38:11.540
I can, you know, I could
probably still do some peek and
poke shit on the,

38:11.540 --> 38:15.540
the Vic Commodore Vic 20 and the
Sinclair ZXA to you name it.

38:15.540 --> 38:18.540
You know, as I can work with
windows, it may not be my
favorite machine to,

38:18.540 --> 38:20.540
you know, to manage my life
with.

38:20.540 --> 38:22.540
But, you know, hey, that's not
what I got it for.

38:22.540 --> 38:25.540
I got this thing just to sit
here and do its job.

38:25.540 --> 38:29.540
You know, the extra sound card
and next Wednesday, I believe,

38:29.540 --> 38:32.540
Kenster J and I are going to do
another MTV chronicle.

38:32.540 --> 38:37.540
So I get to try out my Skype
theory with the dual sound
cards.

38:37.540 --> 38:40.540
So we can really, you know, see,
we can get some good recording
going on

38:40.540 --> 38:43.540
and set it up the way I think it
should work.

38:43.540 --> 38:45.540
So, you know, it's, it's cool.

38:45.540 --> 38:47.540
No complaints whatsoever.

38:47.540 --> 38:48.540
Amigo.

38:48.540 --> 38:50.540
No complaints whatsoever.

38:54.540 --> 38:57.540
Okay, here's, this is not a
complaint, okay.

38:57.540 --> 39:01.540
But, what I was used to on the
Mac is I was able to,

39:01.540 --> 39:04.540
take any document that quick
time can play.

39:04.540 --> 39:08.540
And I could basically play that
in Megaseg and I just
discovered,

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I wanted to play an MP4, which
is a video.

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Excuse me, a video.

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It's really the, it's kind of,
it's an open standard,

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but that's now kind of known as
the iPod format for iPod video.

39:21.540 --> 39:24.540
Because an old colleague of
mine, Bill Elberg,

39:24.540 --> 39:28.540
better known as Vladi, the Mad
Russian scientist, a different
one,

39:28.540 --> 39:32.540
then I spoke, you know, that
this is not George, this is
Vladi,

39:32.540 --> 39:33.540
and Vladimir.

39:33.540 --> 39:38.540
Bill Elberg, who used to work
with us in the early days of

39:38.540 --> 39:41.540
thinking my idea, it's actually
on ramp before that.

39:41.540 --> 39:42.540
He was fucking great.

39:42.540 --> 39:47.540
And he's in LA and he's working
at, I don't know if he wants me
to tell you

39:47.540 --> 39:50.540
where he's working, but he has a
great, a great gig,

39:50.540 --> 39:53.540
and I'm really proud of the
success of all these guys

39:53.540 --> 39:55.540
that used to work in our, in our
previous companies,

39:55.540 --> 39:57.540
you know, him and Brad's
certainly.

39:57.540 --> 40:02.540
Actually, I mean, there's 700
people, so I could keep on name
and names.

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But I knew I've played Miss
Prince with the Z at the end

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on the daily source code quite a
bit, and he told me this

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before, after I had already
played Miss Prince,

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and I guess I kind of forgot,
but I, you know,

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that's his band, and he's in it.

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And he gave me a video to one of
their songs.

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And so that won't play in the
cast blast,

40:29.540 --> 40:31.540
which I guess is kind of default
behavior,

40:31.540 --> 40:33.540
so it's not a bug or anything.

40:33.540 --> 40:35.540
But I just can't play right now,

40:35.540 --> 40:37.540
it would take me, you know, to
have to pause the recording

40:37.540 --> 40:38.540
to go and get it.

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So you'll have to hold on to
hearing the Miss Prince

40:43.540 --> 40:46.540
and on Monday when I'm back,
then we'll put a link

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into the video, but in the
meantime,

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you can always check out the
podcast,

40:50.540 --> 40:53.540
Music Network, and it's good to
hear from Bill.

40:53.540 --> 40:57.540
Dude, I can't believe that's
you, Bill.

40:57.540 --> 40:58.540
Let's just put it down.

40:58.540 --> 41:00.540
Yeah, I won't take it right on
the list.

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Woohoo!

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Oh, yeah, there it is.

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Brad with Adam, it's a really
big deal.

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Brad with Adam, it's a really
big deal.

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Brad with Adam, it's a really
big deal.

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Cook it slow, cook it fast,
we'll have the United.

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Just jump on board and take it
on night.

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We're going out on the test
drive.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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We're going out on the test
drive.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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It comes rockin' right.

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Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

41:45.540 --> 41:46.540
Let's move it on.

41:46.540 --> 41:47.540
Let's move it on.

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Let's move it on.

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That's right.

41:49.540 --> 41:50.540
We're going on a test drive.

41:50.540 --> 41:54.540
Today, Ron and I have a meeting
at Google and we're taking
Trinity.

41:54.540 --> 41:55.540
Yeah, baby.

41:55.540 --> 41:59.540
We are taking our science
experiment on the road.

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So that's going to be a lot of
fun.

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It's actually going to be great.

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We're meeting with a whole bunch
of interesting people.

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Remember I talked about the
music search.

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So that's one of the main
reasons we're there is to talk
about including pot-safe music.

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Pot-safe music network in the
music search.

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We're also meeting with the guys
from Google Reader, Google Talk.

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Guys and gals, I should say
actually.

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It's going to be fun.

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It's more fun that we're taking
Trinity.

42:30.540 --> 42:31.540
I hope she makes it.

42:31.540 --> 42:34.540
It'll be great karma if she
does.

42:34.540 --> 42:36.540
Speaking of Google, I'm not
really speaking of Google.

42:36.540 --> 42:42.540
I always think of a big hotbed
of software developers.

42:42.540 --> 42:46.540
I don't know if it's open for
business.

42:46.540 --> 42:47.540
I think it should be.

42:47.540 --> 42:50.540
I didn't actually synchronize
with Andrew before the end of
the day.

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Now that I think of it.

42:52.540 --> 42:59.540
But as a part of our, you know,
getting into beta and soon
launching my pot-show.

42:59.540 --> 43:03.540
Pot-safe music, the podcast
delivery network and pot-show
plus.

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Oh, there's a new one for you.

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Pot-show plus.

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We are launching our developers
program.

43:12.540 --> 43:17.540
And you can find that at
developers.pot-show.com because

43:17.540 --> 43:19.540
And I'm really proud of this.

43:19.540 --> 43:21.540
I think this is so cool.

43:21.540 --> 43:24.540
And this of course is one of the
main reasons why we have Andrew.

43:24.540 --> 43:29.540
Andrew comes with a lot of cool,
cool little tricks in his tool
bag.

43:29.540 --> 43:34.540
But he very successfully ran
the,

43:34.540 --> 43:39.540
the iPod 11, the juice receiver,
open source project,

43:39.540 --> 43:43.540
collaborative amongst like three
or four continents, you know.

43:43.540 --> 43:46.540
So he'll be, he's been setting
this up.

43:46.540 --> 43:50.540
And, and so you go to
developers.pot-show.com.

43:50.540 --> 43:52.540
Everything will be open.

43:52.540 --> 43:54.540
Everything will be all API is
open.

43:54.540 --> 43:58.540
All the inputs and outputs of
this puppy are all going

43:58.540 --> 44:03.540
to be available through APIs
that you're probably already
familiar with.

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But, you know, there's modules
and stuff to do and check that
out.

44:08.540 --> 44:12.540
Developers.pot.jout.com and I'll
see you over there

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because I like to lure out that
shit.

44:14.540 --> 44:18.540
I love hanging out with the
geeks once in a while, you know.

44:18.540 --> 44:22.540
Hey, since it's Friday, not only
do I have a, by the way,

44:22.540 --> 44:27.540
Jeffrey Smith dude for doing all
these, all this music and all
these songs and stuff.

44:27.540 --> 44:30.540
You, you just rule so incredibly
major.

44:30.540 --> 44:33.540
He did a re-edit of the Roger
Smalls intro.

44:45.540 --> 44:49.540
And, of course, we have a
message from Roger Smalls.

44:49.540 --> 44:50.540
Hello, my name, Roger here.

44:50.540 --> 44:53.540
Quick question for your mental
sexual section.

44:53.540 --> 44:57.540
I was wondering if you had any
tips for shaving walls without
any bleeding.

44:57.540 --> 45:02.540
I'm sure that it's for his light
Robert Teneerow or Victoria
Backabilition in right now.

45:02.540 --> 45:04.540
Thank you for sharing the advice
too.

45:04.540 --> 45:06.540
Thank you.

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Yeah, what you've got to do is
another message from Roger
Smalls.

45:19.540 --> 45:22.540
So I heard that from Roger.

45:22.540 --> 45:24.540
And I didn't get it at first.

45:24.540 --> 45:25.540
I didn't.

45:25.540 --> 45:29.540
And I'm not only if he's trying
to be funny or this is, or if he
really meant this,

45:29.540 --> 45:32.540
but I was like, Victoria Backim
doesn't have warps on her face,

45:32.540 --> 45:33.540
like Robert Orp.

45:33.540 --> 45:36.540
I don't think Robert Teneerow is
a ways of mole on his face.

45:36.540 --> 45:39.540
And then I figured out what I
think he was trying to say.

45:39.540 --> 45:41.540
You're disgusting, Roger.

45:41.540 --> 45:42.540
Man.

45:42.540 --> 45:46.540
But you do get my weekend off to
a good start with that stuff.

45:46.540 --> 45:48.540
You're nuts.

45:48.540 --> 45:50.540
Let me see.

45:50.540 --> 45:53.540
Oh, wow, yes.

45:53.540 --> 45:57.540
So the news about this week in
tech,

45:57.540 --> 46:04.540
that I noticed quit taking
advertising through pod track.

46:04.540 --> 46:07.540
So I said that I was really
excited about this.

46:07.540 --> 46:10.540
And it was so hard to believe
because Leo Leport has been,

46:10.540 --> 46:14.540
you know, so clear in the past
about, you know,

46:14.540 --> 46:17.540
staying non-commercial.

46:17.540 --> 46:20.540
He made, why did it deal with
AOL for the bandwidth,

46:20.540 --> 46:21.540
which I understand?

46:21.540 --> 46:24.540
And I thought that was, you
know, that's actually a pretty
pretty damn good deal,

46:24.540 --> 46:27.540
because bandwidth, particularly
the numbers these guys are
doing.

46:27.540 --> 46:32.540
You know, that's, I can get
pretty costly.

46:32.540 --> 46:35.540
But he, you know, his keynote at
the portable media expo.

46:35.540 --> 46:39.540
He, you know, was all about
passion and not about taking
money

46:39.540 --> 46:41.540
because then, you know, it would
be, I mean,

46:41.540 --> 46:43.540
you go, look, look at his
keynote.

46:43.540 --> 46:46.540
I don't want to put any words in
his mouth.

46:46.540 --> 46:48.540
And so it showed up in CBS
Marketwatch.

46:48.540 --> 46:51.540
And as I told you, I even pinged
Frank Barnock on said,

46:51.540 --> 46:53.540
do, did you check this?

46:53.540 --> 46:55.540
And so, of course, I know Leo.

46:55.540 --> 46:59.540
I fired off an email to Leo, and
it's true.

46:59.540 --> 47:00.540
He's taken ads.

47:00.540 --> 47:01.540
He's there.

47:01.540 --> 47:03.540
They're in some kind of auction
or something.

47:03.540 --> 47:05.540
And we'll have to see how that
works exactly.

47:05.540 --> 47:08.540
But that is phenomenal.

47:08.540 --> 47:15.540
And I'm very, very, very, very
happy for everybody, really,

47:15.540 --> 47:19.540
for us as such a validation, you
know, of that.

47:20.540 --> 47:22.540
Because I don't think this show
is going to change.

47:22.540 --> 47:23.540
So they'll have a sponsor.

47:23.540 --> 47:24.540
Who cares?

47:24.540 --> 47:27.540
You know, it's great, you know.

47:27.540 --> 47:32.540
And, you know, if it'll keep
TWIT going, you know,

47:32.540 --> 47:36.540
I'm quite, there's a whole
thread over it to TWIT.tv.

47:36.540 --> 47:39.540
You can read about, I guess he
was already kind of preparing
the audience

47:39.540 --> 47:42.540
by asking questions, you know,
should we do like an MPR model,

47:42.540 --> 47:45.540
listen or supported model, and
looks like he went,

47:45.540 --> 47:47.540
I don't know if it's a hybrid
that he's going to do

47:47.540 --> 47:48.540
a full ads, whatever.

47:48.540 --> 47:52.540
But it is a validation of, you
know,

47:52.540 --> 47:57.540
great content, professional
content that can match up with
advertisers

47:57.540 --> 48:01.540
who are willing to step into the
medium and make it work.

48:01.540 --> 48:04.540
You know, money has to flow
somehow.

48:04.540 --> 48:08.540
And I think that we all can work
with this.

48:08.540 --> 48:11.540
You know, look at what's
happening in the world.

48:11.540 --> 48:16.540
Media is changing right before a
very freaking eyes.

48:16.540 --> 48:18.540
And ears.

48:18.540 --> 48:23.540
So, you know, if you remove the
concept of time immedia,

48:23.540 --> 48:27.540
you know, it doesn't matter how
long or how short something is.

48:27.540 --> 48:32.540
If you remove the concept of
limited frequency and ether,

48:32.540 --> 48:37.540
then it only makes sense that
you can't do the same type of
advertising.

48:37.540 --> 48:40.540
Now that doesn't mean that we
have the answer yet,

48:40.540 --> 48:43.540
and that we know exactly what
it's supposed to be.

48:43.540 --> 48:44.540
But it's happening.

48:44.540 --> 48:46.540
It really is taking place.

48:46.540 --> 48:48.540
And any advertiser,

48:48.540 --> 48:53.540
whether, you know, however
they're working with us and with
other ad networks

48:53.540 --> 48:56.540
or whatever system or any
podcast,

48:56.540 --> 49:00.540
thank you for doing it because
we're going to figure this stuff
out.

49:00.540 --> 49:02.540
And by the way, listeners,

49:02.540 --> 49:04.540
thank you so much for bringing
your feedback in.

49:04.540 --> 49:08.540
Because if you think that
feedback doesn't go straight
back to advertising agencies

49:08.540 --> 49:14.540
and the companies themselves who
are utilizing podcasts to
advertise,

49:14.540 --> 49:16.540
I mean, of course that's what's
going on.

49:16.540 --> 49:17.540
So it can only get better.

49:17.540 --> 49:20.540
So your feedback is incredibly
important.

49:20.540 --> 49:24.540
It is incredibly important.

49:24.540 --> 49:27.540
That said, here's another great
example.

49:27.540 --> 49:28.540
Hold on a second.

49:28.540 --> 49:32.540
Remember, I went to the Johnson
and Johnson conference.

49:32.540 --> 49:37.540
It was all the brand managers
and media buyers in Seattle.

49:37.540 --> 49:39.540
I actually did a show from
there.

49:39.540 --> 49:41.540
Well,

49:41.540 --> 49:44.540
I'll give you, which is a
Johnson Johnson brand,

49:44.540 --> 49:45.540
which I know very well by the
way.

49:45.540 --> 49:48.540
I've been an IQ view user all my
life.

49:48.540 --> 49:51.540
I stopped using contact lenses.

49:51.540 --> 49:52.540
Let me see.

49:52.540 --> 49:54.540
Actually, when I started flying,

49:54.540 --> 49:58.540
because it was the night flight,
I think.

49:58.540 --> 50:00.540
I was doing some night flying.

50:00.540 --> 50:06.540
And I put my glasses on instead
of my contacts.

50:06.540 --> 50:09.540
And I really noticed a
difference.

50:09.540 --> 50:12.540
And I don't know if that was
just a night stuff specifically
or whatever.

50:12.540 --> 50:14.540
And then I kind of got into,

50:14.540 --> 50:16.540
well, I got into the pink
glasses that I wore.

50:16.540 --> 50:18.540
So I just wore prescription
glasses.

50:18.540 --> 50:22.540
I had these rose colored
glasses, which was really nice
for a while.

50:22.540 --> 50:24.540
And then I have,

50:24.540 --> 50:27.540
these actually had a blue tint
when I first got them.

50:27.540 --> 50:28.540
I don't kind of rubbed off.

50:28.540 --> 50:30.540
And I just got into glasses for
a while.

50:30.540 --> 50:32.540
But I've always used active
view.

50:33.540 --> 50:36.540
Yeah, active view colored
lenses, which is pretty trippy.

50:36.540 --> 50:40.540
So I like the company regardless
of whether they're,

50:40.540 --> 50:43.540
whether they're sponsoring the
podcast,

50:43.540 --> 50:46.540
the podgeo podcast network or
neat or neat.

50:46.540 --> 50:48.540
This is my Dutch slipping, or
not.

50:48.540 --> 50:49.540
But they are.

50:49.540 --> 50:52.540
Specifically what they're doing
is there's this,

50:52.540 --> 50:55.540
they're actually underwriting an
entire podcast.

50:55.540 --> 50:58.540
So it's, I think I've mentioned
them before.

50:58.540 --> 51:00.540
Heather and Janelle,

51:00.540 --> 51:03.540
two high school girls, high
school girls,

51:03.540 --> 51:06.540
trying to get an audience
basically.

51:06.540 --> 51:10.540
And, and they're just talking,

51:10.540 --> 51:13.540
you know, talking like high
school girls.

51:13.540 --> 51:15.540
And the reason why,

51:15.540 --> 51:18.540
and I can certainly mention that
on this podcast,

51:18.540 --> 51:23.540
is high school girls are
interested in contact lenses.

51:23.540 --> 51:27.540
Because that's a big decision
you make, you know,

51:27.540 --> 51:29.540
when you're young.

51:30.540 --> 51:32.540
We used to do,

51:32.540 --> 51:34.540
one of our clients when we were,

51:34.540 --> 51:36.540
when we had thing new ideas was,

51:36.540 --> 51:39.540
excuse me, I got something about
it.

51:39.540 --> 51:43.540
I'm like, so I'm slipped in my
throat there.

51:43.540 --> 51:45.540
I won't even tell you that
story.

51:45.540 --> 51:47.540
I'll tell you that story another
time.

51:47.540 --> 51:50.540
Anyway, you can check out
Heather and Janelle

51:50.540 --> 51:53.540
at download.acview.com.

51:53.540 --> 51:57.540
Acview is AC, women, let me do
that probably.

51:57.540 --> 52:01.540
I'll for Charlie Uniform, Victor
Uniform Echo.com.

52:01.540 --> 52:02.540
There you go.

52:08.540 --> 52:10.540
Okay, let me just wind this up
with one thing.

52:10.540 --> 52:13.540
I actually, I really
contemplated not playing this

52:13.540 --> 52:17.540
because I, here's what I did
internally.

52:17.540 --> 52:20.540
This, this audio feedback is
particularly in this show

52:20.540 --> 52:23.540
because I was, I'm talking,
because I've already talked
about them.

52:24.540 --> 52:28.540
But I afforded this to a number
of people within Pod Show,

52:28.540 --> 52:31.540
not as a, as a,

52:31.540 --> 52:35.540
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's
definitely work and not like
that.

52:35.540 --> 52:39.540
But to reiterate how incredibly
important it is

52:39.540 --> 52:43.540
when you come out with any type
of service

52:43.540 --> 52:46.540
or offering for people who are
serious about podcasting,

52:46.540 --> 52:50.540
how carefully you have to be
with this stuff.

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Because one glitch can really
ruin your day.

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Now, this is from the financial
aid podcast.

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And it's about pod track.

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And I just want you to listen.

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And again, this is not, you
know,

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sticking the tongue out at
anybody.

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But it is important to
understand what can happen

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when you start integrating
pieces of your profession

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with other parties and how
careful we all have to be.

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And this is, this could go for
feed burner.

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This could go for any other
company including pod show.

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So this is really just something
for podcasters.

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I want you to understand what
can happen when things go wrong

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when you basically give up
control of your feed.

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Hey, I don't, this is Christian,
the financial aid podcast

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with some feedback for you on
pod track.

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As mentioned at DSC319, I
noticed in mid December

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that one of my fellow New
England podcasters was using pod
track

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as a means of tracking their
traffic

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and their listenership more
accurately.

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I looked at the website and it
seemed like they had

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a pretty promising offering so I
signed up for it.

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Now, I'm not so terribly upset
about the fact that

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in the month I've been a pod
track member.

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I've never once gotten a report
about my listenership statistics
at all.

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No, as I terribly bothered by
the fact that

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customer service kept replying
with it.

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Oh, we'll get a report to you
any day now.

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No, what bothered me was this
morning.

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I went to the website, the pod
track website.

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And I wanted to see if the
reports that had been promised

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for so long were available.

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And instead, I got a server
application error.

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Hey, no big deal.

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I figured I would just get out
of my day and check back later.

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So I recorded the financial aid
podcast as usual every morning.

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Got it up to the server and got
it out there.

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iTunes was showing the dreaded
exclamation point next to the
feed.

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And I was like, oh, what's going
on here?

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So I went to my web server and I
made sure the file was there

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and they had not done a
pre-coffie move and named

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something I shouldn't have.

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And everything was fine.

54:42.540 --> 54:45.540
Well, it turns out the way pod
track works

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is basically they have your
pre-pend there URL to all of the
episodes of your podcast.

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So whether it's the MP3 posted
directly on a website like my
space or

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whether it's in your RSS feed,
you always have a pod track URL

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at the beginning of your MP3
references.

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No matter where you are.

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And here's the part that annoys
me this morning from 6 to 9AM,

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which is when the peak
listenership of the financial
aid podcast is

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because that's when the show is
released.

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And that's when people tend to
get to work.

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Pod track was completely
unavailable.

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And when they're down, all of
your MP3s are down too.

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There's no way for your users to
get to your show.

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I don't know what podjo has
waiting in the wings for
podcasters around the world

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in terms of measuring
listenership and things like
that.

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But please, please, please,
please, no matter what you do,

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make it reliable.

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Have backups, have redundancy,
have fail over everything

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because there's nothing more
frustrating to me as podcaster

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than not having my podcaster
available to the world.

55:37.540 --> 55:40.540
As for pod track and the form
emails I've gotten

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from CEO Mark McRearify his
assistant,

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I will never, ever, ever use pod
track again.

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And for any other podcasters out
there who are considering using
pod track,

55:50.540 --> 55:53.540
make sure they've got their
reliability problems under
control

55:53.540 --> 55:54.540
before you switch over.

55:54.540 --> 55:57.540
Anyway, this is a bit of angry
audio feedback from Chris

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from the financial aid podcast.

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Have a great day at him and I
hope podshow does a much better
job.

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Okay.

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So, the most important message
here,

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you heard what he said at the
end,

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make sure that you have
redundancy, fail over double,

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double told lots, et cetera.

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This is why you have not seen
podshow come out with

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it's offering very quickly.

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We really took some time to
understand bandwidth.

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Now, of course, we spend a lot
of time looking at

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solutions like bit torrent or
things that big companies

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like Microsoft are looking at.

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Something that could really
scale,

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but, you know, without everybody
buying in

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everybody means all the
aggregator developers.

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And I don't think we can count
necessarily on

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the biggest one, the biggest
podcast aggregator

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iTunes, you know, to necessarily
see the benefit

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to themselves by participating
in a bit torrent type of
distribution.

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Mainly because it makes a whole
bunch of people in Hollywood

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really nervous and no one wants
to deal with that angst.

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I understand that, by the way.

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So we went looking for the best
solution for bandwidth

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and hosting.

57:11.540 --> 57:12.540
And we have some experience.

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I actually had a company called
the data barn,

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which was interestingly enough,

57:17.540 --> 57:18.540
the right idea.

57:18.540 --> 57:19.540
We were at a peering point.

57:19.540 --> 57:21.540
We had peering agreements.

57:21.540 --> 57:22.540
It was at the wrong time.

57:22.540 --> 57:25.540
We had peering agreements with,
I don't know, you know,

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guys that were operated by Enron
and companies like that.

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So it was called the data barn.

57:32.540 --> 57:35.540
It was, you know, I understand a
lot more about this stuff

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than, you know, we may have
really talked about on this
show.

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So we spent months, literally
months,

57:44.540 --> 57:47.540
experimenting, testing, working,
talking to people.

57:47.540 --> 57:51.540
Now in the valley, you know,
what's people used to call

57:51.540 --> 57:53.540
Silicon Valley, what we call
valley would.

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There's almost like, and the
solution you always take is,

57:56.540 --> 57:57.540
oh, let's just go to Akamai.

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Akamai will make it all work.

57:59.540 --> 58:02.540
But when iTunes came out and
when, you know,

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the big bandwidth slurp took
place,

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the bandwidth burp of 2005.

58:07.540 --> 58:10.540
We cut a real quick deal with
Akamai.

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And I believe that the pricing,

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I'm just going to do this from
memory,

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but the pricing for a content
delivery network.

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It's pretty much between one
and, you know,

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a buck to a buck 50, I'd say.

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The bigger you are, the more
bandwidth you eat,

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the cheaper the price is going
to get.

58:37.540 --> 58:39.540
What was it going to say?

58:39.540 --> 58:41.540
Okay, so that's, that's per
gigabyte,

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per gigabyte of data
transferred.

58:43.540 --> 58:45.540
And this is what all the, you
know,

58:45.540 --> 58:50.540
all the big streaming hogs
bandwidth hogs use,

58:50.540 --> 58:54.540
you know, like ABC or CBS or
NBC.com

58:54.540 --> 58:56.540
and you look at their videos and
stuff.

58:56.540 --> 58:58.540
And the thing that's really good
is that

58:58.540 --> 59:00.540
the thing that is not used is
that

59:00.540 --> 59:02.540
it's not used to use, is it?

59:02.540 --> 59:04.540
I think, maybe Apple doesn't
Apple have a direct investment

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in Akamai.

59:05.540 --> 59:08.540
I think they do, or they invest
like $100 million or something
at some point.

59:08.540 --> 59:12.540
And we were really looking for a
company that would fit with us,

59:12.540 --> 59:16.540
would understand kind of the
renegade nature of podcasting

59:16.540 --> 59:20.540
of the idea of user generated
content.

59:20.540 --> 59:24.540
You know, and really would work
with us,

59:24.540 --> 59:28.540
the thing that sucks the most
about independent podcasting is,

59:28.540 --> 59:30.540
when something catches on and
people start to listen,

59:30.540 --> 59:32.540
that's when you run into
trouble.

59:32.540 --> 59:34.540
And we've seen, you know, I
mean, for the stuff that's

59:34.540 --> 59:36.540
no publicly, there's a lot of
podcasts

59:36.540 --> 59:39.540
that have really had some major
bandwidth issues.

59:39.540 --> 59:40.540
And it just cost money.

59:40.540 --> 59:44.540
Now, the company that we, so,
you know,

59:44.540 --> 59:47.540
so we decided we needed to go
with a content delivery network.

59:47.540 --> 59:49.540
We really have to because, you
know,

59:49.540 --> 59:52.540
just like we're using an outside
company to do

59:52.540 --> 59:55.540
the transaction for the pod,
safe music network.

59:55.540 --> 59:58.540
You know, let's use some
professionals who are doing this
stuff all day.

59:58.540 --> 01:00:02.540
Now, this is podcasting is a
little different from streaming
media, okay?

01:00:02.540 --> 01:00:07.540
You're talking about shipping
huge files all around the world,

01:00:07.540 --> 01:00:08.540
all around the network.

01:00:08.540 --> 01:00:12.540
Instead of passing bits and
bytes on on demand basis.

01:00:12.540 --> 01:00:17.540
So you want files cached in
different geographic locations.

01:00:17.540 --> 01:00:19.540
You want this bandwidth done,

01:00:19.540 --> 01:00:21.540
not through thousands of edge
servers,

01:00:21.540 --> 01:00:23.540
but through peer networks.

01:00:23.540 --> 01:00:27.540
I mean, this whole, I mean, I've
really made a study of this.

01:00:27.540 --> 01:00:29.540
And, and Ron and I worked,

01:00:29.540 --> 01:00:31.540
I particularly Ron, I have to
say,

01:00:31.540 --> 01:00:35.540
worked just tirelessly with Bill
Reinhardt,

01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:37.540
the CEO of Limelight Networks,

01:00:37.540 --> 01:00:41.540
to come to a deal that would
really work for both of us.

01:00:41.540 --> 01:00:43.540
Now, I'm kind of jumping the gun
here,

01:00:43.540 --> 01:00:44.540
a little bit.

01:00:44.540 --> 01:00:45.540
The pod-pimp is going to, it's
going to hate me.

01:00:45.540 --> 01:00:47.540
But I just wanted to let you
know

01:00:47.540 --> 01:00:53.540
that we have been teaming up
with world-class partners.

01:00:53.540 --> 01:00:57.540
And please feel free to go over
and take a look at,

01:00:57.540 --> 01:00:59.540
you know, what you think your
bandwidth would cost

01:00:59.540 --> 01:01:01.540
on a content delivery network.

01:01:01.540 --> 01:01:05.540
And then know that any
podcaster,

01:01:05.540 --> 01:01:07.540
anybody who wants to come into
the network

01:01:07.540 --> 01:01:10.540
and who wants to work on
building the network

01:01:10.540 --> 01:01:12.540
and making the network better

01:01:12.540 --> 01:01:16.540
and creating fun stuff and
having a kick-ass time

01:01:16.540 --> 01:01:19.540
with an actual possibility of
beside social reward,

01:01:19.540 --> 01:01:21.540
having financial reward,

01:01:21.540 --> 01:01:24.540
you're going to get the
bandwidth

01:01:24.540 --> 01:01:26.540
and the hosting all for free.

01:01:26.540 --> 01:01:28.540
And I'd like you to go take a
look

01:01:28.540 --> 01:01:30.540
and see what that would cost if
you had to pay

01:01:30.540 --> 01:01:32.540
for it out of your own pocket.

01:01:32.540 --> 01:01:34.540
So that will be my damn
announcement for the week.

01:01:34.540 --> 01:01:36.540
Everybody have a fantastic
weekend.

01:01:36.540 --> 01:01:38.540
I'll talk to you on Monday

01:01:38.540 --> 01:01:40.540
after I'm back and after I've
had plenty of sex.

01:01:40.540 --> 01:01:41.540
Bye-bye now.

01:01:41.540 --> 01:01:44.540
Another pod-show pod guest,

01:01:44.540 --> 01:01:46.540
sticking in your ear.
