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Delta Sierra Charlie 321.

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$16 million worth of airplane
strapped to my ass.

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The next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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Fantastic! It's Adam Curry!

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Hey everybody! It's the start of
a new week coming to you once
again

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from the Curry Cottage. We're
back home!

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It's Monday!

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I love you!

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Kiss me now!

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I like stuff.

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I see you on the street looking
over at me.

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I can't smell that desire. So
I'm in over my feet.

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[ Music ]

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When you came home and you took
me away

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Jack in the pulpit

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Extraordinary girl from the pod
save music network

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Hey, everybody, how you doing?

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Yeah, okay, I've reintegrated
everything into the podcast
complex beer

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Here back at home, still rocking
on cast blaster

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And happy to have the Dishiba
Portage, now a fixed piece of
the equipment

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I can just use my power book for
all the other stuff I use it for

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Because we can't have more than
one audio application open at a
time

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More on that later in today's
show

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Lots to talk about some sad news
to start off with

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Which happened for a Friday
after I'd already put the show
up

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I got a call from Patricia

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I think I mentioned this a
couple times that our dog was
not doing too well

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She was old Jesse

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We had saved as with most of
our, I think all of our animals

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We rescued her from the dog
pound in Jersey actually

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And she moved with us from
Jersey to the Netherlands

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From the Netherlands to Belgium,
from Belgium here

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With, of course, all the issues
of getting her in the country

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And she had really just gotten
old and was deteriorating

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So we knew the end was coming

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But she just couldn't hang on
much longer

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Patricia had to put her to sleep
on Friday

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It was a major bummer

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One, of course, just because
it's like a child

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It's a big dog

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We've never had to put one of
our animals down

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It was really big we've always
had cats and smaller dogs

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All of our pets are our children

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But this wouldn't even more so I
guess

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And it was really sad that
Patricia had

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Of course, I was asleep

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Hold a different time zone and
everything

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So she had to take care of that

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By herself

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Which really suck because of
course I wanted to be here to
support her

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And I couldn't be and of course
I couldn't say goodbye to my dog

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So that was sad

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But it was very courageous of
Patricia to make the decision

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And to do it, not wait any
longer

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And I think that actually

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Jesse already appeared in one of
Patricia's dreams

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And that's, it's funny that way

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Because I knew it would happen

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Usually within three to five
days after someone

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Or something is passed on

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They appeared Patricia's dreams

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That's when she finally gets the
rest and feels okay

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Everything's okay

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And the dog is now in a good
place

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But it was, especially after
being away for two weeks

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And it was almost home on my way
home

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And so that just, that really
sucked

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Anyway

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So it's a lot quieter on the
house

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There was no Jesse to come

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I mean, oh man, it's quite a
great dog

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This was the dog that

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When we lived in Belgium and I
had the helipad out back

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Whenever I came, whenever she
heard a helicopter

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She was like fucking radar from
Mash

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She comes, here comes daddy,
here comes the helicopter

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And then as I would be landing
down on the pad

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She would run right up on the
pad

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And stand in between the skids
and bark at the cockpit

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And be like, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey

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Welcome, how are you doing?

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And then she'd wait until we
were down

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She'd never get under the skids

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The first couple times she did
that

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Everyone was a bit freaked out

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But we got really used to it

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She just run up and start
barking at the

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This is a huge helicopter

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And then once we were down and
opened the door

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Then she'd jump up and she said
hi

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She had a great life, she really
did

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So I feel good about that part

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Okay, so what should we start
with today?

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I've done a little line-up of
stuff

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Let me see, let's talk about the
pod safe music network for a
little bit

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Because a lot of people

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You know, now that we're
getting, actually I was going to

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Hopefully we were going to start
testing on Friday

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And it's going to happen
sometime this week

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We wanted to have a few things

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Just change for the flow of
everything

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To make it a little bit better

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Remember, this is all beta test

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And I'll talk about this some
more

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As we get through some of these
comments

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You have to understand that
we're not like

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This is not like we're opening
an iTunes music store

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Anything, okay?

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This is just us guys trying to
make something happen

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Trying to make something work

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And just like the pod safe music
itself

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We'll release early and we'll
release off

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And we'll make stuff better

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And we want to hear your
comments and your feedback

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And we're really just working
very hard on it

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Let's get to some of the
comments about the pod safe
music network

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Okay, Adam, this is town camp
from St. Louis, Missouri

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I just wanted to release some
audio feedback

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You know, I'm extremely excited
about being able to purchase
MP3s

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And the free and clear

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I got my first MP3 player in
1999

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So I've waited a long time for
this opportunity

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I just had a couple comments on
one of the briefs for you

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First, I really like the locker
idea

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Where music that I purchased
will be available for me to
download again

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If my hard drive were to crash
or something like that

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Also, you mentioned some stuff
about social networking

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I think it's a great idea. We
really need to bring this in
there

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Rating songs

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Seeing how many people purchase
songs

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Sharing playlists

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Sending people recommendations

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Maybe even purchasing songs for
somebody else

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So I could pay for it

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And it would show up for my
girlfriend's account when she
goes to law again

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Another thing

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It'd be great if we get songs
that are included in a loss list

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Audio format

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Like flack

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Then if MP3 ever goes away

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We'll be able to convert our
songs into whatever the good
code I get

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Finally, and I'm sure you
thought about this before

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But I just wanted to say it
anyway

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The artist in me would really
like it if

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Artists could pick the prices
for their songs

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Give pot show a fee off the top
or a percentage

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Kind of like eBay does

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And then they could set it
however they want

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I think that would be great for

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Artists being able to set
marketing strategies

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And doing supply and demand for
themselves

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Anyway, I'm super excited for
going out and purchasing MP3s

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From Pod Show

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Until the download their up so

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Till then take care bye bye

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Yo, okay, so a lot of things set
in there

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The first thing I'd like to
address is

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You know the songs that are in
and because we're not a store

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And don't charge a fee or make
you go through aggregators like
a CD baby or whatever

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To get your stuff up there

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It is going to be up to the
artists themselves

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As to what quality they put up
and make for sale

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As we go along, I'm sure that
they'll be requests

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To change stuff

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Actually, I've seen some people
who wanted to change their

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They're MP3 files or put up a
higher quality

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And weren't able to, that's a
comment

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That obviously has been passed
on to the dev team

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The development team

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And then this whole thing about
pricing

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This is very interesting, you
know

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Everyone's focused on pricing
pricing

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And I'm focused on how do we

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Get people interested how do we
get podcasters

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And listeners more involved

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And how do we get actually
before we can even talk

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About pricing how about we make
this work

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So people buy some stuff

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Timothy Pilgrim says you set up
the newest form

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Of media for audio, you set up
the pod save using that

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Working, you still abide by the
antiquated

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99 cent model of business

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Come on, you've got the
opportunity to do something
right here

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You're on the ball, obviously

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So why latch on this archaic
system that our economies

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seem to be hung up on why 99
cents?

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Why not make it an even buck?

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Okay

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Let me just go through the
comments

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And then I'll actually address
the pricing issue

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Specifically

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Um

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Let me see, do we have another
one here

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Hi, Adam Steve from Feed of Clay
here

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Just a quick note to say one of
the best benefits

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For artists selling their their
tunes through the

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Pod save music network is the
fact that unlike CD Baby

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Or items music store and artists
can upload single songs

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For sale and not have a whole
album finish

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Yeah, I like that as well

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You kind of played she said on

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Show number 197 which is from an
album in progress

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And it's great because now we
can start selling

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Singles and get the music out
there faster

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The new album is going slow
because I have two young girls

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And I take a lot of free time

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Dude, you know priorities first
right

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Prayers for your mom. Thank you
mom's doing better

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By the way, you know she's still
in the hospital

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And there's no date when they're
going to let her out

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But she is doing better she's uh
she's gaining some strength

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And Steve continues by saying

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I can't say tailwinds because
I'm not a pilot

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But thank you very much

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Yeah, you know I

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I saw Robin from Inside Works
who's also a pilot

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For a major major

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Airline and he agreed

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You know if you're going to say
tailwinds

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You can only do it if you're an
airman or an airwoman for that
matter

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Uh one other thing

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Uh that was a good comment from
Peter Yarros

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Adam's so glad to hear that
purchasing on PMN is coming
along

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Well, I worry about one thing
though

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ID3 tags when I get music off
the PMN

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I've noticed the tagging is
incredibly inconsistent

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I'm willing to put up with that
as a podcast

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Are getting a free track to spin

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But as a paying customer I think
I'd be quite frustrated

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I hope that there will be some
sort of ID3 quality control for
paid tracks

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Uh well

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There you go

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I think that that is definitely
going to be

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Up to the artists themselves to
make sure that that is

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You know that that's taking care
of

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Otherwise

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You know the cost of we already
have

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You know obviously silver cost
and bandwidth cost etc

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Which is over-seable

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And we have

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Chris Bershier's full time on
the podcast

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Music Network

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Michael Butler part time part of
his time is spent on it

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You know those are real cost and
then

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You know the only way I can see
that happening

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Is if we then become kind of a
buffer zone

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Where we ensure the integrity

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And the quality and all that

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And I just think that

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That's going to take a too much
towards a

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A stringent store format

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You know and it'll also really
slow down

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House you know this is the whole
problem

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With the iTunes music store is
getting stuff up there

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It takes a minimum of six weeks

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Unless you go with you know
people in between

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And all this quality control

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I think we have to learn how to
do this ourselves

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I really do

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By the way Peter continues

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I'm not a real pilot myself my
father was one for many years

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He commuted to work by airplane
before he threw his back out

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I flown a plane before one sort
of

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When my earliest memories of

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Is of sitting in his co-pilot
seat

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Reaching my little feet out as
far as I could

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To hold onto the yoke

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I was wearing blue socks

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And I remember being jealous
that my dad had more controls on
his side

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Good time

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So if I may add him tailwinds

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All right. We'll let you go.
We'll let you slide on that one
man

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So about this pricing

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Um

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I don't like the variable
pricing idea

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I you know I can't really put my
finger on it

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But I think that when iTunes
music store and the

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U.S. opens up to variable
pricing

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Which is going to happen it's
already happened

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And in other music

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iTunes music stores and other
regions

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That what'll happen is when
something gets popular

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And the price goes up

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That's exactly you know and the
music industry

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Is said this you know hey
popular songs

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Should be charged more

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Um what I'd like to do

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Is

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You know as we get into this
beta

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As we just you know start and
work it out

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I think what we should do is we
should start

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Just at 99 cents why 99 cents
and keep it fixed at 99 cents
why

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Well

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Yes

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What?

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You're dropping by

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Your microphone is attached to
the karaoke

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So you have to go get your
microphone

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If you get your mic then you can
drop by

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We get you know the the AKG mic

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No that's cool that's fun

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Come on

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Which is dropping by everybody

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Cool

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Okay

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So back to the 99 cents

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Um

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My feeling is and

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And we can change this at any
moment

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That's a good thing you know
nothing's going to be set in
stone

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But I think let's just start
with

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Um with 99 cents fixed pricing

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99 cents of course because it is
become more or less an industry
standard

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Why go cheaper because cheap and
first of all for the customer

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Who's buying songs?

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I don't think there's a huge
difference between you

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Do you really go out and search
for the 89 cents song or the 70
cents song

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And you'd be more apt to buy
that

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I think that doesn't make that
much difference

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You know when you're talking the
difference of 10 or 15 cents to
the

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To the to the customer I don't
think it matters

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From a marketing perspective

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It feels very much to me like if
we do that

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If you go cheaper then you just
cheap in yourself

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You know just hey

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Therefore it may not be as good
this is what a lot of people
think as well

15:17.600 --> 15:19.600
And why should independent music
be worth less

15:19.600 --> 15:21.600
And why should it be worth more
you know

15:21.600 --> 15:23.600
It's let's just keep it on par
and we can always go back and

15:23.600 --> 15:29.600
Turn to variable pricing if
that's what we feel the market
needs to bear now another thing

15:29.600 --> 15:31.600
That just amazes me

15:31.600 --> 15:33.600
Is the amount of

15:33.600 --> 15:35.600
Questions I've received about

15:36.960 --> 15:40.960
Splits what's the split gonna be
what's the artist gonna get
well?

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I've been trying to find out

15:45.440 --> 15:48.080
The AKG yeah, yeah, that's the
one yeah, where's the

15:49.440 --> 15:51.440
Yeah, that's because you're
giving

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Hold on a second

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Hold on

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Come on

15:57.440 --> 15:59.440
We'll speed into a girl

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Mess around here in the show now

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Position that

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Okay, are you there?

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Oops sorry I have to turn on
you. I don't hear you yet

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Oh, well, you can do you hear
me?

16:17.360 --> 16:19.600
Yeah, you can turn that up.
Okay, and how come

16:20.800 --> 16:24.480
No, but do you hear me you don't
hear me of course you hear me
you have to hear me

16:25.600 --> 16:30.160
No, oh wait a minute hold on
hold on let me let me just
change something. Oh, man

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I didn't think you were coming
by in today's show

16:34.000 --> 16:38.320
No, I said are you coming
sometime this week is what I
said hold on hold on hold on

16:39.600 --> 16:44.000
Do you have it now? Yeah, now
you hear me? Okay, but now how
come we don't hear you hold on

16:44.880 --> 16:46.880
I've got that in

16:47.280 --> 16:50.320
Yeah, yeah, here you baby. Hold
on. Oh, I see what it is

16:50.320 --> 17:02.640
How about? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.
Okay, uh, hello lovely portrays

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Hello, how are you dear? Uh, and
a little bit better. I was a
little bit on the

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The weather yeah, yeah, but
that's because you know you're
puked

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You have children you can't even
second time in 20 years

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Yeah, that I that I know that
you have puked and you have
puked and that's like dribbled
really

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It's dribbled

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Sort of gagging yeah, okay, so
yeah, that's when you have kids
and they have things home

17:30.560 --> 17:32.320
Yeah, Christina's home from
school today

17:32.320 --> 17:37.280
And it was exactly the time that
our beloved dog I just told
everybody what about

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Yeah, so I was already upset my
stomach was already upset

17:41.440 --> 17:45.120
I told everybody how how brave
you were to do to take care of
all that stuff

17:45.120 --> 17:53.280
It's just I have nightmares from
it. Yeah, nightmares because you
know I always send you or leave
you with the dogs at the end

17:53.280 --> 17:59.360
I know and I walk away. Yeah, I
have to do all that yeah, but
this is I'm Dr. Dad deciding to

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Let a dog die, you know,
deciding like this is the time
you have to die now

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It's horrible. That's why I
can't understand where people
kill other people

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Or you know, yeah, but if you're
but animals, but if you're if
you were terminally ill and
you're in pain and and you just
want to go

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That's something else, yeah, but
you know just do you do want me
to take care of you then don't
you?

18:25.360 --> 18:26.640
Yeah, okay

18:26.640 --> 18:30.240
No, what were shooting healthy
people and and of course now

18:30.240 --> 18:36.880
No, I cannot imagine I was
thinking about that because I
had to do that and and what and
of course in England

18:36.960 --> 18:38.960
You know, they they

18:38.960 --> 18:40.960
What is your talk of it?

18:40.960 --> 18:46.240
Hunting they do a lot of
hunting. Yeah, and I don't
understand that either the
hunting. No, I cannot

18:46.800 --> 18:51.600
Just now I know guys who go
hunting and we'll shoot at ducks
in the sky

18:52.000 --> 18:55.800
But can't shoot at a duck if
it's just sitting somewhere
looking at another

18:55.800 --> 19:05.160
They've been staring to you.
Yeah, but if I'm flying over
those shoot him. Yeah, yeah, so
it makes it make it make me
think a lot about these things

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Yeah, yeah, and because I felt
that way and I noticed also
because I was alone this weekend
and you know as a mom

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You think about a lot of things
you're more worried because you
can't share it of course

19:16.760 --> 19:22.280
But you husband because he's not
there and you have a teenage
you're going in and out and I
don't know do things

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You feel very lonely. I know I
felt a little bit. It's scary.
It's so scary because

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You hear a lot of things on the
radio like children disappearing
and

19:32.520 --> 19:34.520
Yeah, and

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Or you know they get killed or
girls that are just disappearing
or they find them killed

19:39.360 --> 19:46.200
I and I felt by myself is the
world getting worse? Is it me?
No, the world's not getting
worse

19:46.200 --> 19:49.320
You're just hearing more of it.
That's all or that's what I'm
saying

19:49.320 --> 19:54.840
We just know too much. That's
all. No, you don't know too
much. It's just we more signals
coming in

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Are the people getting worse?
I'm not mean

19:58.200 --> 20:02.440
We're finding out how bad people
really are it's like this whole

20:03.640 --> 20:05.640
What's Jack Abramoff in

20:06.440 --> 20:08.440
You know the the lobbyist

20:08.440 --> 20:12.600
Yeah, he's been giving money to
to all these senators and
congressmen. It's you know

20:12.600 --> 20:15.320
We just we learn of we're not
getting worse now

20:16.120 --> 20:18.440
Meiner people have always fucked
each other up

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Is that so yeah, yeah, sure. I
mean, there's just it's still so
disappointing

20:23.560 --> 20:25.320
Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah

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Absolutely

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And I'm you know, I'm old enough

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Yeah, you know, I should be

20:32.520 --> 20:36.680
No, I think I have to get used
to this by now, but but

20:37.400 --> 20:39.320
No, you know, I'm not you can't
get used to

20:39.320 --> 20:41.320
I can't get used to

20:41.320 --> 20:44.760
Now see so these were my little
I missed you very very much

20:44.760 --> 20:50.040
Yeah, I missed you too. I'm
happy you're home. Yep. Gonna be
home for a couple weeks and then
I'm gonna go to New York for a
week

20:50.040 --> 20:51.400
I know

20:51.720 --> 20:53.240
And are you gonna come to San
Francisco?

20:53.320 --> 20:59.320
Everybody wants to see you.
Yeah, you got to come hang out
dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
otherwise I'm gonna get some
boyfriends

20:59.320 --> 21:01.320
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, and

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And the weather's a little bit
better than two days of rain
while I was there two weeks too

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But it's always it's refreshing
actually. Yeah, now it was it
was refreshing

21:12.120 --> 21:16.120
Okay anything especially you
want to talk about you just drop
in just to say yeah

21:16.120 --> 21:18.120
These were my the thoughts so

21:19.080 --> 21:23.080
Now I'm well, we might as well
just they're gone. We might as
well just say right now that you
know

21:23.080 --> 21:28.200
So I guess we're filing the suit
with these uh with the the
magazines. Oh, yeah, yeah, that
too. Yeah, so

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I guess I can say from the court
from experience

21:32.760 --> 21:38.600
Yeah, that that's getting
getting a little bit more meaner
than it was in my days

21:39.400 --> 21:44.760
You know, I say 20 years ago or
you know, and you know, and then
yeah, but though but

21:45.720 --> 21:52.040
Yeah, but the line has been
pushed. Yeah, yeah absolutely.
Yeah, the line absolutely. They
say that here over here too

21:52.760 --> 21:54.040
the

21:54.040 --> 21:57.320
Celebrities yeah, yeah, it's a
bit meaner

21:57.320 --> 22:01.880
Being a celebrity big brother is
on here's been on for two weeks
and it's going for another week

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I guess and Dennis Rodman is in
in the big brother house. Yeah,
he's cool

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Makes me look pretty cool. Yeah,
he's very laid back. Yeah, he is
a little bit impolite

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Uh-huh

22:13.880 --> 22:19.480
That's a pity because I always
defend the Americans because
say, you know, they are really
nice

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Yeah, they are really sensitive
and

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That's just the way they are and
and and they've been brought up
like this

22:28.520 --> 22:31.560
And they're different and we are
in Europe speak for yourself

22:32.600 --> 22:38.040
That's how we are yeah, I'm
saying you guys you we are you
Europeans you're you're yeah

22:38.360 --> 22:43.640
You're okay, I'm married to an
American, so but I'm kind of
European. I'm not so I always
defend you guys

22:43.880 --> 22:47.480
always because I've been there.
I've lived there the wonderful
people

22:48.360 --> 22:54.760
Always helpful and always always
humorous. Yeah, when they're
said that really said more said
than we are

22:55.320 --> 22:57.000
And when they're happy them

22:57.160 --> 23:05.400
Very happier than we are. It's
different. It's more emotional.
Yeah, and I could see that the
difference in the in a big
brother house the

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Americans Tracy

23:08.200 --> 23:12.120
The one from they watch and then
it's rotten excuse me

23:13.480 --> 23:19.160
When I burp what do you think of
when I burp what do you think
of? I don't even hear it

23:20.600 --> 23:25.080
It's supposed to say San Seo.
Oh, he's that's out. Oh, God.
Thanks for listening

23:27.080 --> 23:29.080
You don't know this now

23:31.720 --> 23:34.520
So yeah, that's when I was there

23:35.960 --> 23:43.480
That was I was I was telling
about that that that he was very
miss on the street, but he is
impolite and and and it doesn't
say please

23:43.480 --> 23:49.720
And thank you. Yeah, I'm ashamed
about that because it's true,
but he's very very smart and he
knows

23:49.720 --> 23:55.080
Very well, it's going on and he
is very nice and he is like
trying to help everybody out

23:55.080 --> 23:58.520
Yeah, he just does not say
please and I just a big you know

23:59.880 --> 24:01.160
Oh

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What a what a body on that guy,
though

24:03.480 --> 24:05.480
I'm calling crap

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Yeah, he was wearing a leotard
yesterday. Did you see that?
Yeah, he had something the
basket was big my

24:14.840 --> 24:18.600
Goodness hold on one second. I
just have to let everyone know
who's listening to this on
serious

24:18.600 --> 24:24.120
sidelight stars 103 that our
sidelight window is closing
Pacific Coast. Hellway coming up
next followed by

24:25.000 --> 24:28.760
Magic and Dawn and Drew and if
you want to hear the rest of
this conversation you have to
download the podcast

24:29.000 --> 24:37.240
That's the end of that. That
means the sidelight window is
closed. Okay. You like that?

24:39.240 --> 24:41.240
Close

24:41.240 --> 24:42.520
Alrighty

24:42.520 --> 24:44.520
So that's it for now

24:45.480 --> 24:47.480
Okay, there was

24:47.480 --> 24:52.200
Let me see I was just going to
do yeah, now I was just going to
go a whole bunch of podcast and
stuff so you may not care

24:53.160 --> 24:56.680
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, kind of well like the BBC

24:58.200 --> 25:03.240
You know the BBC released their
numbers. Well, you want to hear
for one second just listen BBC
about podcasting

25:03.240 --> 25:07.240
All right, it's really but it's
really interesting just listen
to the first minute of this and
I'll tell you what's

25:07.240 --> 25:10.520
About seven podcasting has it
seems suddenly taken off

25:11.080 --> 25:14.920
The chat first of all podcasting
a suddenly taken off suddenly

25:15.640 --> 25:20.600
I thought it was for a long but
listen this is really
interesting. This is from the
BBC from radio for you

25:20.680 --> 25:25.400
And familiar with it means
letting listeners download a
radio program or other audio
material

25:25.400 --> 25:29.640
Entrepreneurs or personal audio
player such as an MP3 or an iPod

25:30.200 --> 25:36.680
Because that this morning show
that the today 10 past eight
interview was downloaded over
400,000 times last month

25:37.160 --> 25:40.840
Secondly among BBC programs to
radio ones Chris Moiles show

25:41.320 --> 25:45.320
But podcasting could change the
face of radio you don't need a
license to do it

25:45.720 --> 25:49.320
So it's open to other media
groups to challenge the
established broadcasters

25:49.400 --> 25:51.400
Okay, so now this is where it
gets interesting

25:51.720 --> 25:55.960
Because what is about to say
he's about to mention all these
podcasts that are really
successful

25:56.280 --> 25:59.880
But none of them are from the
BBC. I'm really corresponding to
our Douglas reports

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First it was Ricky Javez on the
Guardian Unlimited website

26:05.240 --> 26:07.320
Welcome to the seventh

26:07.320 --> 26:09.320
Ricky Javez show on

26:09.320 --> 26:10.840
podcast

26:10.840 --> 26:17.640
I'm Ricky Javez with me Steven
Merch. Hello there and it was
the conservative leader David
Cameron courtesy of the daily
telegraph site

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Thanks for listening. I hope I
speak to you again on another
podcast before long two days
later

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It was Tony Blair podcast by the
son which said it was a
significant a breakthrough as
the first Prime Minister's radio
broadcast by Ramsay McDonald in
1924

26:32.840 --> 26:38.600
This is George Pasco Watson the
son's political editor with the
Prime Minister Tony Blair in the
heart of Downing Street

26:38.920 --> 26:42.440
With the son's first ever
podcast and then last Friday

26:42.520 --> 26:47.800
It was John Snow in Channel 4's
first podcast a documentary
about cannabis in the young

26:48.360 --> 26:53.720
So basically it's the
newspapers. It's the commercial
television station very
important

26:53.720 --> 26:58.680
They're jumping on to it and
like I got Tony Blair the doing
and you know and it turns out
that Ricky Javez

26:58.680 --> 27:04.120
Actually went to the Guardian
newspaper. They didn't ask him
he went to them and said you
know, would you enable this for
me?

27:04.120 --> 27:06.120
So he's probably not getting
paid for it or number it much

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So I thought that was really
interesting

27:08.520 --> 27:14.360
That's very interesting, but
even more interesting. They
released numbers. Are they
getting it? Are they do they?

27:15.240 --> 27:20.680
Well, it's typical BBC. It's
government stuff. Of course they
get it, but they're so fucking
slow

27:21.240 --> 27:24.920
It's like all the newspapers are
already doing podcast. Well,
that's why he said suddenly

27:25.480 --> 27:29.880
Exactly like a boy doing
suddenly. So such a this out for

27:30.360 --> 27:35.000
They're December download
numbers which is how a lot of
this is being done now. So the
best of moils

27:35.240 --> 27:37.000
446,000 times

27:38.200 --> 27:44.040
Today the today interview for in
the 13,000 times the documentary
archive. These are ones you
talked about now

27:44.040 --> 27:47.000
There's just 211 times and then
it really starts to go down

27:47.720 --> 27:50.360
Like go digital is 59,000 times
and

27:51.320 --> 27:53.960
Let's see the letter to gait
like learners

27:55.160 --> 27:57.160
2,796

27:57.160 --> 27:59.800
We do more than that. We do much
more than that

28:00.920 --> 28:04.120
This show daily source code does
more than their number one show
in a month

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So I just thought that was

28:07.080 --> 28:09.080
Really fucking cool

28:11.080 --> 28:16.360
No, no someone wants gay like
that's nothing wrong. I'm just
saying that if you look at the

28:17.800 --> 28:21.640
You know what we're seeing now
is the guys who've been doing
radio for a hundred years

28:22.040 --> 28:24.440
All right, you know suddenly
getting into podcasts

28:24.440 --> 28:30.360
The podcast is suddenly great,
but they're not doing better
than us. So look we're just on
we're in a freaking cottage here

28:30.360 --> 28:31.640
And we're doing more down

28:31.880 --> 28:35.720
Significantly more downloads
than than the BBC's top show.
That was kind of the point

28:36.680 --> 28:41.960
Interesting. Yeah, that's very
interesting. I only have more of
this crap. Do you want to you
don't want to listen to all
this?

28:42.680 --> 28:46.520
Love a why not? Okay, good. Well
because that's all right. So now

28:47.080 --> 28:49.080
Oh, this is good. You'll like
this. You know

28:50.360 --> 28:54.760
Clear channel in America. Yeah,
they own thousands of radio
stations

28:55.000 --> 28:57.560
I mean really thousands of radio
stations

28:57.640 --> 29:00.120
Which is is in most people would
say

29:00.760 --> 29:05.480
Radio sucks in America because
of companies like Clear channel
that have bought all these
stations

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They put one disjockey who then
you know is you hear them on
three or four different stations
at the same time

29:10.840 --> 29:16.040
So it's become very impersonal.
Oh, yeah, and then so this is
the big powerhouse, right?

29:16.040 --> 29:17.960
This is a billion dollar company

29:17.960 --> 29:19.960
Listened about because and they

29:21.000 --> 29:24.680
Business week with the Heather
Green. She does a podcast. She's
interviewed me as well

29:25.640 --> 29:30.280
She talked to the guy who's
responsible for all the
podcasting over at Clear channel
at this huge

29:30.280 --> 29:33.720
Conglomerate who's getting into
podcasting listen to their
download numbers

29:33.720 --> 29:39.160
It's taking an entire show and
making that available later and
it proves to be a hit right out
of the gate

29:39.160 --> 29:43.400
We realize that our listeners
were absolutely wanting to get
our

29:44.040 --> 29:49.720
content on their own terms and
podcasting made that available
so we slowly expanded and we now
have

29:50.200 --> 29:55.480
80 stations podcasting which is
just a fraction of our total
number of stations

29:55.800 --> 30:01.960
But we added a couple of
stations every week and we've
already seen advertisers ranging
from the local Mercedes dealer
and

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Phoenix Arizona to a an Apple
shop in

30:06.280 --> 30:09.560
You know, Ohio wanting to be a
part of this as well. Yeah, I
wanted to ask you about that

30:10.280 --> 30:13.080
You know how you're what kind of
business model you're you're
using here

30:13.080 --> 30:16.200
But I also wanted to back up and
and talk a little bit about so

30:16.520 --> 30:21.000
I mean, what have you learned
about this podcast kind of
podcast? I mean from this kind
of podcast

30:21.000 --> 30:27.640
What kind of what have you
learned download so we um in the
on demand content at at large

30:28.120 --> 30:33.320
This was something new for radio
stations to go on air and take
go to our website

30:33.320 --> 30:38.440
And you can get this content
24-7 was a brand new experience
and it resonated right out of
the gate

30:38.840 --> 30:45.960
We saw our strip performances
our sneak peek cd debuts all
reaching audiences of upwards of
of a hundred

30:45.960 --> 30:50.600
Thousand and some of them
several hundreds of thousand in
in a very short period of time

30:50.600 --> 30:54.440
So the demand for this was
absolutely there like within a
month or two months

30:54.440 --> 30:57.400
Yeah, right right out of the
gate with podcast in particular

30:57.960 --> 31:04.280
We started with handful of
stations we're now at 80 over
the course of the last six six
and a half months

31:04.680 --> 31:08.360
We've already seen more than six
and a half million podcasts

31:08.440 --> 31:09.720
Okay

31:09.880 --> 31:15.240
In the last six six and a half
months. Yeah, we've already this
is a publicly listed company by
the way

31:15.240 --> 31:20.440
So I don't I don't think the
companies like that typically
don't give out numbers about how
successful they are

31:20.440 --> 31:26.520
So just to put it into
perspective he says six six and
a half months. He's seen six
million

31:28.040 --> 31:30.040
Downloads the million

31:30.440 --> 31:35.800
The daily source code and Dawn
and Drew two shows do better
than that. Yeah, just two shows

31:36.200 --> 31:41.560
So these are the big it's the
big clear channel incredible and
listen it's not it's not podcast

31:41.560 --> 31:43.320
It's like streaming stuff you
know

31:43.320 --> 31:47.960
We start to try and quantify
where that no he thinks it's a
big number actually and where
comes from check

31:47.960 --> 31:52.600
Okay, you mean download it or
it's a combination. Remember
what I mentioned was out of the
gate

31:52.840 --> 31:57.640
We kind of did podcasting one or
one if you don't really know
what podcasting is you can just
dream it

31:57.640 --> 32:03.720
You can download an MP3 or you
can sign up for Tora says feet
in the beginning what we found
was more people were

32:04.200 --> 32:08.840
Either downloading it or
streaming it, but since then the
the number of

32:09.720 --> 32:15.640
Sign-ups fractual feeds has has
eclips the other formats. Okay,
so what's important about that

32:16.760 --> 32:20.120
Is what he's basically saying is
that more people are

32:20.360 --> 32:26.200
Subscribing to their podcast and
that now the more people listen
to podcasts through subscribing
because

32:27.240 --> 32:31.880
All these clear channel programs
and stations are always on the
home page of iTunes

32:32.280 --> 32:34.280
Yeah, well we're seeing is

32:34.680 --> 32:40.920
Actually the ratio there's less
people subscribed and more
people just clicking around and
listening and downloading and
doing from websites

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etc. So all all their new
signups are clearly coming from
iTunes

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Right, and we're still kicking
their ass

32:48.520 --> 32:50.120
Yeah, with a two show

32:51.160 --> 32:53.160
They will now

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The numbers

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He's so excited

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Exactly these guys think that
their shit don't stink and when
I listen to how

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That's what I mean did do they
have the ears open? Do you know
probably not probably not but I
was just so amazing like my god

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You know don't undo and daily
source code do better than the
BBC

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Way better than the BBC and
better than clear channel so you
know it's our audience

33:17.400 --> 33:23.400
They're in their little you know
the only little world so imagine
if you count up the 20,000
podcasts that are out there

33:23.400 --> 33:27.640
How incredible the audience
sizes. Yeah, just humongous
amazing

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I've told you about

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Roger

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Roger smallest oh

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Yeah, you do he yeah. He's the
guy that that drives around
gulford

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Oh, yeah, you told me yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some
people call him a stalker

33:45.240 --> 33:49.560
But I think he's just a sweet
kind of yeah, be careful. Yeah,
you want to hear his latest
podcast

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the email in him complaining.
Now I think he should all do I
do and which is fairly

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file safe and means you can quit
I choose completely and that's
all we need to do

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set curry.com at your home page.
Now that way every time you use
the internet you

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be able to see if happens
recorded in the initial or not.
And the bonus of course

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you get see us in space at the
top of his website wrap the day.
I've noticed

34:26.600 --> 34:30.600
that if you look very closely he
keeps winking at you at the no
have a

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snow animation or not. I'm
myself staring at that rate is
actually at work it's

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quite mesmerising I think in a
certain night looks a sort of
see that I

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could just be me. So much like
it's paralyzed and trying to
communicate through

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blinking it's probably just
saying something I sense they
are in law

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code just with his eyes and eyes
and mouth. You see the good
thing about

34:52.600 --> 34:56.600
is that he's a full community
case now that whenever enough to
school

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is learning there up the best
other must probably competing in
some kind of

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national right thing. But you've
already got to my head and I'm
sure I'm not

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the only fan of that and I've
been emailing him almost daily
now for well

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of the ten months just with
thoughts, dreams or their
comments and it's just nice

35:15.600 --> 35:20.600
to play them now and not just
ignore them. I'm then actually
my first email

35:20.600 --> 35:25.600
back from that then which is
really really exciting I've got
to hear actually

35:25.600 --> 35:33.600
I can't say I've been using kind
of things out of them.

35:33.600 --> 35:40.600
Yes it is from aden at curry.com
and this is to Roger and the
school

35:40.600 --> 35:46.600
Smalls on mail.co.uk and it's
me. The secret is R.E. Please
tell me where you

35:47.600 --> 35:50.600
let Arden and you simply replied
what now question

35:50.600 --> 35:54.600
up which I think it's the time
and so well we would say this

35:54.600 --> 35:57.600
he still wants to know more
information about what it is

35:57.600 --> 36:01.600
because he's always got time for
his fans. So I've been emailing
him pretty much

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ever since with this
information, he shares Files
family and him and I think he's

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even said a special rule in his
team helps them anything for me
in a special area

36:13.600 --> 36:17.600
Anyway I'm very flattered that a
nice man called Jasper is
written a thing

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song about me for the daily
source code. The last time
someone wrote a song about me

36:22.600 --> 36:26.600
I was a college at the time and
it wasn't a particularly nice
song

36:26.600 --> 36:30.600
Unfortunately there aren't many
words that rhyme with smalls. I
seem to remember

36:30.600 --> 36:35.600
that the lyrics were focusing
mainly on my testicles. I'll
leave that for which he is

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because I have to get to bed. So
have a good weekend.

36:43.600 --> 36:46.600
So stop. On his testicles.

36:46.600 --> 36:51.600
Yeah because at school they made
up songs about Roger Smalls and
I'm sure it was like

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has small balls.

36:55.600 --> 36:58.600
Sounds scary.

36:58.600 --> 37:00.600
I'm not too worried about him.

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If you're not.

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I got a lot to do.

37:05.600 --> 37:07.600
You want to hang out? Welcome to
stay here.

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No, I have to sit down now.

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You're rubbing your tongue.

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Yeah.

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You don't feel good.

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No, I'm still a bit lightheaded.

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Yeah.

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I'm sorry.

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It's a combination of being said
and we have a new sponsor on the
network.

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Accu view from the contact
lenses.

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Oh.

37:30.600 --> 37:33.600
Yep. They're going to get the
information. They're sponsoring.

37:33.600 --> 37:34.600
We have those.

37:34.600 --> 37:37.600
Yep. We're sponsoring a podcast.

37:37.600 --> 37:40.600
Which is Heather and Janelle.

37:40.600 --> 37:44.600
So they're spot. They're
underwriting an entire show by
these two girls.

37:44.600 --> 37:48.600
And you can find that at
download.accu view.com download.

37:48.600 --> 37:52.600
Alpha Charlie uniform Victor
Uniform Echo.com.

37:52.600 --> 37:54.600
And I'm going to get some free
shit from them.

37:54.600 --> 37:56.600
I want to get some lenses.

37:56.600 --> 37:58.600
But you know what the biggest
audience is?

37:58.600 --> 38:02.600
The biggest audience for contact
lenses is young girls.

38:02.600 --> 38:04.600
That's why they're sponsoring
this show with Heather and
Janelle.

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Because they have bad eyes or to
do that.

38:06.600 --> 38:07.600
Just want to have other
comments.

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Well, no, but think about it.

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You're 15 years old.

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Yeah, you don't want to wear
glasses.

38:11.600 --> 38:14.600
Thank you. So then, you know,
what what more important.

38:14.600 --> 38:16.600
You know, once you decide to go
with a brand,

38:16.600 --> 38:18.600
I think you're probably going to
stay with that brand.

38:18.600 --> 38:21.600
Oh, actually Christina was
mentioning that because she has
bad eyes.

38:21.600 --> 38:22.600
Yeah, she wants lenses.

38:22.600 --> 38:24.600
She said, I have to go. I want
lenses.

38:24.600 --> 38:27.600
Mom, because there's so many
times that I don't see it.

38:27.600 --> 38:28.600
Yeah.

38:28.600 --> 38:30.600
But she doesn't want to put her
glasses on.

38:30.600 --> 38:33.600
Well, if she did her show, I bet
you they would sponsor her.

38:33.600 --> 38:36.600
You know, I think they they
sponsor some other shows.

38:36.600 --> 38:38.600
I think maybe Martina show.

38:38.600 --> 38:39.600
Yeah.

38:39.600 --> 38:42.600
But this is exactly the member
when we did tampax.com.

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Yeah, yeah.

38:43.600 --> 38:44.600
Same thing.

38:44.600 --> 38:45.600
Yeah.

38:45.600 --> 38:48.600
Young women make a very
important brand decision very
early on.

38:48.600 --> 38:51.600
You have a basically a couple of
devices you can choose.

38:51.600 --> 38:52.600
Yeah.

38:52.600 --> 38:53.600
Yeah, too.

38:53.600 --> 38:55.600
So why don't you go sit down,
baby?

38:55.600 --> 38:56.600
Yeah.

38:56.600 --> 38:57.600
I have to sit down.

38:57.600 --> 39:00.600
All right. Thank you for having
me, Mr. Gary.

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Thank you, Mrs. Carl.

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It's good to be back, baby.

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Is tonight tonight?

39:04.600 --> 39:06.600
I'm floating away now.

39:06.600 --> 39:07.600
Tonight is not the night.

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No, you're floating.

39:09.600 --> 39:10.600
Yes, you're floating, dude.

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You're useless to me.

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It's no good.

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I love you, baby.

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See you in a bit.

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Bye.

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Yeah, was a congratulations and
welcome.

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Roadshow.

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The Roadhouse pod show.

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The Roadhouse podcast.

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You know, it was actually was
Ron Bloom who really last onto
that show early on.

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He loves that podcast.

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And so I'm sure he'll be happy
to see that you've joined the
network.

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Very cool, dude.

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Welcome.

41:20.600 --> 41:26.600
Something a lot of people seem
to be asking with all these
announcements of podcasters

41:26.600 --> 41:29.600
joining the network is actually
it's not even a question.

41:29.600 --> 41:33.600
It's more like a supposition
that I'm reading more and more.

41:33.600 --> 41:35.600
You know, where there's a
comparison.

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I don't know how anyone can make
any kind of comparison

41:38.600 --> 41:43.600
between basically added
insertion networks and what
we're doing.

41:43.600 --> 41:45.600
But that's okay.

41:45.600 --> 41:48.600
But the supposition is the right
word, I think.

41:48.600 --> 41:52.600
What people are just supposing
is automatically fact is when
you sign with podshow

41:52.600 --> 41:58.600
that sign your life away and
your copyrights and they tell
you what to do on your show.

41:58.600 --> 42:01.600
I just want you to know that
that is not true.

42:01.600 --> 42:05.600
And as we open up the network to
everybody and anyone who wants
to come in and join

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and wants to help build the
network.

42:06.600 --> 42:10.600
Because it really only works if
we work together, obviously.

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You'll see that your show is
your show.

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What you say is what you say and
your copyrights are yours.

42:16.600 --> 42:20.600
So I just want to put that to
rest.

42:20.600 --> 42:25.600
Okay, so Friday, I'd already,
you know, so we put the show up,

42:25.600 --> 42:29.600
but already gotten the bad news
about Jesse.

42:29.600 --> 42:34.600
And then it was off to Google
for our meeting there.

42:34.600 --> 42:38.600
And here's something really
interesting happened where we
just got on the freeway

42:38.600 --> 42:41.600
and we're on our way to Mountain
View wherever it is.

42:41.600 --> 42:43.600
And I get a phone call on my
cell phone.

42:43.600 --> 42:47.600
So pick it up and hey, it's, I
forgot his name so and so.

42:47.600 --> 42:48.600
From Apple.

42:48.600 --> 42:51.600
Yeah, and it's not, it wouldn't
be weird for me to get a call
from Apple.

42:51.600 --> 42:53.600
So I wasn't quite sure what the
call was about.

42:53.600 --> 42:55.600
I said, I'm calling about your
power book.

42:55.600 --> 42:57.600
I'm like, oh my God.

42:57.600 --> 43:00.600
You know, all this bitching and
moaning about about that audio
stutter,

43:00.600 --> 43:01.600
it's paying off.

43:01.600 --> 43:04.600
So I'm like, yeah, it says,
well, how is it?

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I said, well, not too good.

43:07.600 --> 43:09.600
You know, the story, he said,
no, why don't you tell me?

43:09.600 --> 43:13.600
So I go, I launched into this
whole story about, you know,
about what was wrong

43:13.600 --> 43:16.600
and the issues and what Apple
recommended temporarily.

43:16.600 --> 43:18.600
He agreed and he said, no, that
doesn't sound right.

43:18.600 --> 43:20.600
Only having one audio
application open.

43:20.600 --> 43:21.600
That's not a fix.

43:21.600 --> 43:23.600
I said, no, of course it's not a
fix.

43:23.600 --> 43:30.600
And then it slowly dawned on me
that this guy is from sales
support.

43:30.600 --> 43:32.600
But he wasn't there to help me.

43:32.600 --> 43:35.600
He was there to try and sell me
apple care.

43:36.600 --> 43:39.600
Because he went through this
whole thing and then he says,
right.

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Hey, I see, yeah, that's really
too bad.

43:42.600 --> 43:44.600
You know, we should have that
looked at.

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I see you don't have apple care.

43:46.600 --> 43:48.600
Are you still interested in
purchasing that?

43:48.600 --> 43:49.600
I said, well, no, I'm not.

43:49.600 --> 43:51.600
You know, I don't give a shit
about apple care.

43:51.600 --> 43:52.600
You know, the shit's defective.

43:52.600 --> 43:54.600
You know, I shouldn't have to
pay extra money to have someone,
you know,

43:54.600 --> 43:58.600
at the genius bar card, apple
pro or whatever.

43:58.600 --> 44:01.600
It'll care pro, whatever it's
called.

44:01.600 --> 44:05.600
I have absolutely no desire to
spend more money on you.

44:05.600 --> 44:07.600
And he was like, okay.

44:07.600 --> 44:10.600
I said, so what are you going to
do about the problem I had?

44:10.600 --> 44:15.600
So well, you know, I can just
make a mention of it here in
some in a comment field.

44:15.600 --> 44:18.600
And I really don't know who
looks at it from here on out.

44:18.600 --> 44:21.600
I'm like, dude, this is so
wrong.

44:21.600 --> 44:23.600
So there you go.

44:23.600 --> 44:26.600
It's how it works, I guess.

44:26.600 --> 44:28.600
You know, I've got so much to go
through.

44:28.600 --> 44:29.600
I'm just going to keep going.

44:29.600 --> 44:30.600
If you don't mind, it's Monday.

44:30.600 --> 44:33.600
We haven't, we haven't caught up
in a while.

44:33.600 --> 44:36.600
And this, of course, is our own
little private podcast moment.

44:36.600 --> 44:38.600
No satellite listeners lurking
on us.

44:38.600 --> 44:43.600
And I do have some more, you
know, basic podcasting stuff to
discuss.

44:43.600 --> 44:47.600
I've got an email from the, the
pod chef, gastrocast.

44:47.600 --> 44:53.600
There's a whole long thing about
iTunes and how is feed broke.

44:53.600 --> 44:57.600
And essentially, he wound up
losing listeners anyway.

44:57.600 --> 45:00.600
He says, because of iTunes,
libson, and some bad
technological lock.

45:00.600 --> 45:01.600
I am now down 600 listeners.

45:01.600 --> 45:03.600
I'm on the verge of some cool
sponsorship.

45:03.600 --> 45:05.600
And I need my subscribers back.

45:05.600 --> 45:11.600
Would you please mention that
the pod chefs, gastrocast, is
available in iTunes of people
search for gastrocast.

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Okay, done.

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I hope that works out for you,
dude.

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I've lost so many thousands of
subscribers through iTunes shit,
too.

45:17.600 --> 45:18.600
It's unbelievable.

45:18.600 --> 45:22.600
It really is, you know, just,
you know, all of a sudden is
like,

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a group 20,000 drop off, and
then, you know, in the course of
like a week,

45:26.600 --> 45:28.600
you can see these people
literally re-subscribing.

45:28.600 --> 45:32.600
Some of that may have to do with
the, you know, the five download
limit rule.

45:32.600 --> 45:36.600
Something I really believe Apple
should change, because, you
know,

45:36.600 --> 45:41.600
I'm constantly having to
re-subscribe to any feed that
has more than, you know,

45:41.600 --> 45:44.600
that, or that has a high
frequency of output because they
come through.

45:44.600 --> 45:49.600
And if you don't listen or watch
in many case with video cast,
watch, you know, five,

45:50.600 --> 45:54.600
within five postings or five
updates, then it stops
downloading, you know,

45:54.600 --> 45:55.600
it's a pain in the ass.

45:55.600 --> 45:58.600
I think it's a good thing to
have as a, as a preference,

45:58.600 --> 46:00.600
but it should be something you
could switch off.

46:00.600 --> 46:03.600
This is definitely hurting the
experience.

46:03.600 --> 46:10.600
Speaking of video podcast, I
think we got a sponsor for yeast
radio,

46:10.600 --> 46:13.600
particularly for Madge
Weinstein's video cast,

46:13.600 --> 46:18.600
and we're going to try and
spread this sponsorship out
over,

46:18.600 --> 46:22.600
and it includes an actual video
commercial, the amazing.

46:22.600 --> 46:24.600
I've no idea what Madge is going
to do with it,

46:24.600 --> 46:27.600
but she's also going to spread
it out amongst some of the queue
potters,

46:27.600 --> 46:30.600
and basically the whole, the
whole Madge community.

46:30.600 --> 46:34.600
So it'll be fantastic to see how
that works and what they're
going to do with it.

46:34.600 --> 46:37.600
And I hear these commercials,
I'm not going to give away who
it is just yet,

46:37.600 --> 46:40.600
but here the commercials were
submitted for Super Bowl,

46:40.600 --> 46:43.600
but were rejected because they
were too, too racy.

46:43.600 --> 46:46.600
So right on, that's perfect for
us, I'd say.

46:46.600 --> 46:50.600
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, first
time I think I've noticed the
second time

46:50.600 --> 46:53.600
I've done this on the cast
blaster, but it is.

46:53.600 --> 47:13.600
And I have some good news about
the metro sexual moment.

47:13.600 --> 47:16.600
This, you're not going to
believe it.

47:16.600 --> 47:20.600
This portion of the program will
actually be sponsored.

47:20.600 --> 47:22.600
It looks like this is sponsored.

47:22.600 --> 47:25.600
It's really interested in
underwriting the metro sexual
moment.

47:25.600 --> 47:30.600
So I'm down with that, and
actually, I'm potting down the
wrong thing.

47:30.600 --> 47:35.600
Actually, the sponsor of the
metro sexual moment is from a
product that I use.

47:35.600 --> 47:37.600
It's not a shaving, implement or
anything like that.

47:37.600 --> 47:41.600
It's nothing we've discussed in
the metro sexual moment in our
little corner here.

47:41.600 --> 47:45.600
We're guys get together and just
bring out some of our feminine
side.

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Corey Crook says, hey, Adam,
I've been listening to your
podcast for a while now.

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Enjoy your metro sexual moment
and all the things you were
doing with potting music.

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Never blah blah.

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On the real me to the subject, I
know you've had some ladies
right in and talk about how they
love the rugged

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stubble look.

47:58.600 --> 48:02.600
I always sport to look when I
can, but it can only last for a
few days, right?

48:02.600 --> 48:03.600
Not true.

48:03.600 --> 48:06.600
I was listening to the show when
someone had written and
recommended a wall.

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Let's W-A-H-L-Beard-Trimmer with
a short setting so you can keep
the stubble look at all times.

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Last Friday, I made my way to
the store to see what I could
find.

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And in my amazement wall
actually has a shaver that comes
with a rugged stubble guide.

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I immediately purchased it,
works great.

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I would recommend that to anyone
that wants to keep the look all
the time.

48:25.600 --> 48:34.600
Well, I'd like to look
personally, but as I think I've
explained Patricia is definitely
not turned on to the idea of
stubble.

48:34.600 --> 48:37.600
Hi Adam, right here with
PathMinderCast.com.

48:37.600 --> 48:40.600
Hey, I've been enjoying the
Metro moment on your show and
I've actually found it helpful.

48:40.600 --> 48:43.600
I do have one question though
about the facial moisturizer.

48:43.600 --> 48:47.600
I looked at my girlfriend's
bathroom cabinet and they've
discovered several moisturizer.

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I am anxious to try one, but I
am afraid that if I start using
moisturizers, it oils and then
will increase my acne.

48:52.600 --> 48:55.600
I am in my mid-20s and I still
struggle with acne.

48:55.600 --> 48:59.600
So should I stay away from these
oils and creams and go with
something so based?

48:59.600 --> 49:02.600
If anyone has advice on what to
do about acne, that would be
great.

49:02.600 --> 49:03.600
Thanks.

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Dude, man, I'm so sorry that
Patricia is not here anymore
because she probably could have
answered that better than I
could, but I'll tell you one
thing.

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Soap is not particularly good
for your face regardless.

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So, you know, I think that you
can probably pick up a
moisturizer that will be
specifically be for people with
acne.

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Those of the acne fate.

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But we do have a lot of
experience here in the cottage
and I will get some information
for you.

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As you know, we have a 15 year
old young lady here.

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Let's just say, sometimes the
mornings are not pleasant when
something new has appeared that
was undesired.

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See, a David Shepel says,
thought you'd enjoy this site,
shavingstuff.com.

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Yeah, I checked it out.
Definitely interesting.

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And Mark Bars.

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What, huh?

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Come here for a second. I need
to do it anyway.

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Yeah, it's a box for three.

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For nothing.

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And he just very upset.

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No, that's realistic. Put the
headphones on.

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I got a guy who needs some help.

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We're in the metro sexual moment
here.

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Okay.

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Okay. Let's I'll play it again.

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Listen to this.

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Hey, I've been enjoying the
metro moment on your show and
have actually found it helpful.

50:24.600 --> 50:27.600
I do have one question though
about the facial moisturizers.

50:27.600 --> 50:30.600
I looked at my girlfriend's
bathroom cabinet and have
discovered several moisturizers.

50:30.600 --> 50:36.600
I am anxious to try one, but I
am afraid that if I start using
moisturizers, the oils and them
will increase my acne.

50:36.600 --> 50:39.600
I am in my mid-20s and I still
struggle with acne.

50:39.600 --> 50:42.600
So should I stay away from these
oils and creams and go with
something so-based?

50:42.600 --> 50:46.600
If anyone has advice on what to
do about acne, that would be
great.

50:46.600 --> 50:47.600
Thanks.

50:47.600 --> 50:49.600
So this is about shaving.

50:49.600 --> 50:52.600
Yeah, we've talked about you
have to moisturize after
shaving.

50:52.600 --> 50:55.600
It's the hormone here on the
metro sexual moment.

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So you're the expert on skin
care.

50:58.600 --> 50:59.600
So what should you do?

50:59.600 --> 51:02.600
He's worried that using
moisturizer will be bad for his
acne.

51:02.600 --> 51:04.600
Well, he has a girlfriend.

51:04.600 --> 51:09.600
If she has moisturizes, doesn't
she know anything about
facial...

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Sometimes it's very difficult
for men to talk about that with
their girlfriends.

51:14.600 --> 51:16.600
That's why we have the metro
sexual moment.

51:16.600 --> 51:21.600
If he has acne, really acne, or
I don't know how old he is.

51:21.600 --> 51:22.600
Could you just answer the
question?

51:22.600 --> 51:24.600
No, because there's different.

51:24.600 --> 51:25.600
No, it doesn't.

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If he has acne because it will
never go away.

51:28.600 --> 51:29.600
He doesn't.

51:29.600 --> 51:30.600
And he has it for a long time.

51:30.600 --> 51:32.600
Or is he just in his...

51:32.600 --> 51:33.600
He's 20.

51:33.600 --> 51:34.600
He's 20.

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So he's still growing.

51:36.600 --> 51:37.600
Yeah.

51:37.600 --> 51:38.600
Yeah.

51:38.600 --> 51:43.600
Well, he can go to his doctor
and ask for a special
moisturizer.

51:43.600 --> 51:47.600
Special creams, special things
for acne.

51:47.600 --> 51:48.600
Very good.

51:48.600 --> 51:55.600
But he doesn't have acne, but
she has a little bit of teenage
pimples and things.

51:55.600 --> 51:56.600
Uh-huh.

51:56.600 --> 51:57.600
There's very good stuff.

51:57.600 --> 51:59.600
But you have to ask your doctor.

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Dermatologist.

52:00.600 --> 52:02.600
Dermatologist or your doctor.

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Okay.

52:03.600 --> 52:06.600
And there's always something for
you skin.

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But do something about it.

52:07.600 --> 52:10.600
If you really are upset about
it, do something about it.

52:10.600 --> 52:12.600
You don't need to walk around
with it.

52:12.600 --> 52:13.600
All right.

52:13.600 --> 52:14.600
All right.

52:14.600 --> 52:15.600
Thank you.

52:15.600 --> 52:16.600
You're welcome.

52:16.600 --> 52:17.600
Now, can you keep that dog
quiet?

52:17.600 --> 52:18.600
No.

52:18.600 --> 52:19.600
I'm sorry.

52:19.600 --> 52:20.600
I don't mind.

52:20.600 --> 52:21.600
I don't mind.

52:21.600 --> 52:22.600
I don't mind.

52:22.600 --> 52:23.600
It's okay.

52:23.600 --> 52:24.600
You didn't hear me complaining.

52:24.600 --> 52:25.600
He's upset.

52:25.600 --> 52:26.600
And he's a bit nervous.

52:26.600 --> 52:27.600
It's okay, baby.

52:27.600 --> 52:28.600
All right.

52:28.600 --> 52:29.600
Thank you.

52:29.600 --> 52:31.600
We all thank you.

52:31.600 --> 52:33.600
Here at the Metro Sexual Moment.

52:33.600 --> 52:34.600
And then finally, Mark Barr.

52:34.600 --> 52:36.600
So I was once in the floor to
Mallon Orlando.

52:36.600 --> 52:38.600
And a lady at one of those
little booths in the middle
called me.

52:38.600 --> 52:39.600
Usually, I say, no, thank you.

52:39.600 --> 52:40.600
But this lady was really pretty.

52:40.600 --> 52:42.600
So I decided to listen to her
marketing story.

52:42.600 --> 52:47.600
She asked me for my hand.

52:47.600 --> 52:51.600
But just to use a nail buffer on
it, make one of my nails really
nice and shiny in seconds.

52:51.600 --> 52:53.600
I got one of their nail kits.

52:53.600 --> 52:55.600
And I used the buffer and
cuticle oil every other week.

52:55.600 --> 52:57.600
I work as a systems admin.

52:57.600 --> 52:58.600
Sometimes have to help users
out.

52:58.600 --> 53:02.600
I did receive a couple of
compliments from female workers
when I was working on their
keyboards.

53:02.600 --> 53:04.600
Then my hands and nails are so
nice.

53:04.600 --> 53:07.600
So besides the shaving and
moisturizer, maybe it's time to
include the other body parts

53:07.600 --> 53:09.600
in the Metro Sexual Moment.

53:09.600 --> 53:10.600
The nail kits are sold on the
internet.

53:10.600 --> 53:11.600
Not sure if they are all the
same.

53:11.600 --> 53:16.600
With my experience with magift
and swiss up beauty sensation
are good.

53:16.600 --> 53:19.600
This last one also has nice body
lotions, but they smell a bit
feminine.

53:19.600 --> 53:21.600
So I don't use them on work
days.

53:21.600 --> 53:24.600
Man, I wish I could quit my day
job in podcasts every day while
smelling.

53:24.600 --> 53:25.600
Yeah, of course.

53:25.600 --> 53:26.600
Well, listen.

53:26.600 --> 53:29.600
I too have manicures done.

53:29.600 --> 53:33.600
And I haven't done it in a
while, but I do take care of my
nails.

53:33.600 --> 53:36.600
And I found that it's actually
kind of fun to go with Patricia.

53:36.600 --> 53:39.600
There's a place where, you know,
it's like a Korean nail shop.

53:39.600 --> 53:41.600
And we both get our nails done.

53:41.600 --> 53:42.600
And yes, you know what?

53:42.600 --> 53:43.600
It is appreciated.

53:43.600 --> 53:49.600
There's nothing more disgusting
than having a cis admin with
really cruddy, nasty ass
fingernails,

53:49.600 --> 53:51.600
touching your keyboard.

53:51.600 --> 53:52.600
And you're right.

53:52.600 --> 53:56.600
Women totally groove on a nice
groom nails.

53:56.600 --> 53:59.600
And I'm curious, Metro Sexual
Moment.

53:59.600 --> 54:00.600
Yeah.

54:00.600 --> 54:01.600
Okay.

54:01.600 --> 54:03.600
That's it for our Metro Sexual
Moment.

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What else do we have on the menu
for today?

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Using two computers.

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I'm using, uh, I said the Mac to
keep track of everything.

54:09.600 --> 54:10.600
Okay.

54:10.600 --> 54:12.600
A couple of audio comments that
I wanted to get through.

54:12.600 --> 54:13.600
Uh, let me see.

54:13.600 --> 54:14.600
Let's try this one.

54:14.600 --> 54:15.600
I add them.

54:15.600 --> 54:16.600
Nope.

54:16.600 --> 54:21.600
Just a brief correction on a
statement you made while reading
my email on DSC319.

54:21.600 --> 54:24.600
Just to refresh your memory and
that of your listeners.

54:24.600 --> 54:28.600
I wrote about my having
correspondent with Jody
Shelton's manager, Audrey
Brandt.

54:28.600 --> 54:34.600
In one of my emails to her, I
suggested that they register
Jody at the PMN.

54:34.600 --> 54:37.600
She did and that part of the
reading was cool.

54:37.600 --> 54:39.600
Then after that, you stated.

54:39.600 --> 54:43.600
Uh, looks like he's, uh,
thinking about doing a podcast
himself.

54:43.600 --> 54:44.600
Very cool.

54:44.600 --> 54:45.600
Okay.

54:45.600 --> 54:46.600
Ed from Ed's Mixbag.

54:46.600 --> 54:47.600
Thank you so much.

54:47.600 --> 54:53.600
Guess it was the way I signed my
email with the podcast name at
the end after my name.

54:53.600 --> 54:55.600
But just one of the clear things
up.

54:55.600 --> 55:00.600
Ed's Mixbag has been a labor of
love since October 6, 2005.

55:00.600 --> 55:06.600
And to date, I've done 16 shows
and plenty of promos for the
podcast as well as for fellow

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podcasters.

55:08.600 --> 55:14.600
Sweepers and bumpers come to
mind for Dan Johnson of journey
inside my mind and also a joint

55:14.600 --> 55:17.600
effort between myself and Kevin
of the first person show.

55:17.600 --> 55:23.600
The mic tech show also comes to
mind for whom I've done a short
promo or two.

55:23.600 --> 55:29.600
My robot friend Sydney and Mary
have also helped out and are
expected to sound off on

55:29.600 --> 55:32.600
rhythm angels rocking blast cast
very soon.

55:32.600 --> 55:38.600
I know Adam that you deal with
so many listeners and podcasters
that it's next to impossible

55:38.600 --> 55:40.600
to be accurate all the time.

55:40.600 --> 55:42.600
Hence this little audio comment.

55:42.600 --> 55:46.600
And if I might, just one more
thing from the shameless PR
department.

55:46.600 --> 55:49.600
Hey, Adam, this is Sydney.

55:49.600 --> 55:52.600
Thanks for giving it this time.

55:52.600 --> 56:00.600
If you would be so kind as to
have to record listeners to eat
and eat.litson.com

56:00.600 --> 56:05.600
wherever you empty stands for
it's next bag.

56:05.600 --> 56:12.600
That's stuff you WW dot eat and
eat.litson.com.

56:12.600 --> 56:14.600
Thanks again, Adam.

56:14.600 --> 56:15.600
Yeah, no problem.

56:15.600 --> 56:20.600
Patricia just walked in during
that little promo and handed me
a bottle of a brand called

56:20.600 --> 56:22.600
Dermalagica.

56:22.600 --> 56:27.600
A skincare system resorts and
developed by the International
Dermal Institute.

56:27.600 --> 56:30.600
Dermalagica.

56:30.600 --> 56:31.600
There you go.

56:31.600 --> 56:34.600
She said they have a whole line
of stuff and that might be what
you want to use for acting.

56:34.600 --> 56:35.600
Oh my gosh.

56:35.600 --> 56:38.600
Aren't we just on the tip of all
the stuff today?

56:38.600 --> 56:39.600
Hello.

56:39.600 --> 56:43.600
He had him David Martin with
Planet podcast down here in Los
Angeles.

56:43.600 --> 56:44.600
Long time listter.

56:44.600 --> 56:48.600
And I think this is the first
time I've responded to your
show.

56:49.600 --> 56:53.600
I think it was because your
Friday source code kind of hit a
nerve.

56:53.600 --> 56:57.600
In the show you talked about a
tabloid that exposed your
family.

56:57.600 --> 56:59.600
And I had a bit of a flashback.

56:59.600 --> 57:03.600
Before I got into making
internet applications and
podcasting,

57:03.600 --> 57:05.600
I was an independent recording
artist.

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And I had a tabloid publication.

57:08.600 --> 57:11.600
Do a similar thing to my family.

57:11.600 --> 57:14.600
And it was a horrifying
experience.

57:14.600 --> 57:19.600
Back then, all we could do is
pick up our lives and change our
personal information,

57:19.600 --> 57:22.600
which I know you've had to go
through.

57:22.600 --> 57:25.600
Just want to let you know that
we support you down here in L.A.

57:25.600 --> 57:31.600
And I will personally take up
donations to help fight these
low-life bottom feeders.

57:31.600 --> 57:37.600
What I'm more really impressed
about Adam is how you spoke
about these jerks on your show.

57:37.600 --> 57:40.600
You didn't give them what they
want.

57:40.600 --> 57:43.600
And that was to have their name
mentioned on your show.

57:44.600 --> 57:48.600
I hope that everyone from
podcasts,

57:48.600 --> 57:54.600
to radio, TV, newspaper, all
media takes a lesson from you.

57:54.600 --> 57:56.600
Way to take the high road.

57:56.600 --> 57:59.600
After all, one of my mentors
once said,

57:59.600 --> 58:03.600
let's let them be the skunk at
the backyard party.

58:03.600 --> 58:05.600
Keep the faith that, Adam.

58:05.600 --> 58:06.600
We're all with you, man.

58:06.600 --> 58:07.600
Thanks.

58:07.600 --> 58:09.600
And it's really just true.

58:09.600 --> 58:13.600
You know, I'm suing this
magazine for a number of
reasons,

58:13.600 --> 58:19.600
but the one that I think is is
most relevant is for using my
pictures from flicker,

58:19.600 --> 58:23.600
publishing them in a magazine
with a reasonable circulation.

58:23.600 --> 58:27.600
And these pictures are protected
on the creative comments
copyright,

58:27.600 --> 58:31.600
specifically the share-like
non-commercial attribution.

58:31.600 --> 58:34.600
Non-commercial means is
non-commercial.

58:34.600 --> 58:35.600
Now here's what's interesting.

58:35.600 --> 58:38.600
I have a lot of lawyers who have
emailed me about this

58:38.600 --> 58:43.600
and are watching this because I
guess there hasn't really been a
real case

58:43.600 --> 58:46.600
that went to court, certainly
not internationally.

58:46.600 --> 58:49.600
You know, of an example like
this.

58:49.600 --> 58:51.600
And usually you hear about the
other way around,

58:51.600 --> 58:54.600
because oh boy, if I took a
picture from a magazine and put
it on my weblog,

58:54.600 --> 58:57.600
boy, how long would it take for
me to get my ass sued off?

58:57.600 --> 59:00.600
Well, that would go pretty quick
as you can imagine.

59:00.600 --> 59:02.600
So the other way around should
work equally as well.

59:02.600 --> 59:06.600
But what's interesting is even
though lots of lawyers are
contacting me,

59:06.600 --> 59:08.600
no one from creative comments.

59:08.600 --> 59:11.600
And there's a, there's a Dutch
chapter of creative comments.

59:11.600 --> 59:16.600
And they're very busy working
with Buma Stemran, all these
other right organizations.

59:16.600 --> 59:20.600
But I really hope that they do
pay attention to this particular
suit,

59:20.600 --> 59:25.600
because this is going to prove
that, you know, how it all
works.

59:25.600 --> 59:29.600
You know, it's going to, we have
an capability here to put
something into the,

59:29.600 --> 59:34.600
into the public eye and ear that
is very new and novel and people
will be interested about.

59:34.600 --> 59:39.600
And, you know, grab your chance
guys in Holland with your,
because I'm suing in the
Netherlands,

59:39.600 --> 59:44.600
not in the UK, some people
thought it was suing in the UK.

59:44.600 --> 59:49.600
I just hope it's not like, you
know, I was in the early days
when MTV.com,

59:49.600 --> 59:50.600
I'd registered that.

59:50.600 --> 59:52.600
That's a whole long story.

59:52.600 --> 59:57.600
But of course, you know, when
MTV, when I quit and when MTV
decided,

59:57.600 --> 01:00:00.600
well, let's sue this guy for
that name.

01:00:01.600 --> 01:00:06.600
I contacted EFF, the Electronic
Frontier Foundation,
specifically John Perry Barlow.

01:00:06.600 --> 01:00:09.600
And they wouldn't help me. They
would not fucking help me.

01:00:09.600 --> 01:00:14.600
And I think I thought, well,
here's, this is a huge domain,
the first domain dispute.

01:00:14.600 --> 01:00:20.600
What a fantastic opportunity to
bring forward, you know, the
value of it, et cetera, just,

01:00:20.600 --> 01:00:24.600
all these things that we,
whether I was right or wrong is
irrelevant.

01:00:24.600 --> 01:00:25.600
They would not get involved.

01:00:25.600 --> 01:00:30.600
Now, it was so disappointed by
that that I, I've never really
looked at much the EFF is doing.

01:00:30.600 --> 01:00:35.600
You know, it's like, all right,
when it comes down to it, when
it comes down to an individual
case,

01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:36.600
then you're kind of on your own.

01:00:36.600 --> 01:00:39.600
So I'm hoping this is not going
to be the case with creative
commons.

01:00:39.600 --> 01:00:44.600
And, uh, definitely hoping that
word will get around and that,
you know,

01:00:44.600 --> 01:00:48.600
will, you know, people will keep
their eye on it, because I think
this is really important stuff.

01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:53.600
Now, man, are we just making
this a freaking massive long
show or what?

01:00:54.600 --> 01:00:55.600
Yeah, mine as well.

01:00:55.600 --> 01:00:57.600
A couple more things before I
go.

01:00:57.600 --> 01:00:59.600
Darren Wall says, okay, totally
freaked out here.

01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:01.600
Listening to Delta Sierra
Charlie 308.

01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:03.600
Yeah, I've got some catching up
to do.

01:01:03.600 --> 01:01:07.600
Just after you read about the
RIA going after the Girl Scouts,
you said,

01:01:07.600 --> 01:01:08.600
I Barbara, come on in.

01:01:08.600 --> 01:01:10.600
You know, you can say something,
you know.

01:01:10.600 --> 01:01:13.600
This was just as my wife,
Barbara entered the room.

01:01:13.600 --> 01:01:15.600
She stared wide eyed at me.

01:01:15.600 --> 01:01:19.600
I think she thought I wasn't
Skype to get you getting my own
private live,

01:01:19.600 --> 01:01:22.600
DSC happy new year to the Curry
crew from Darren and Barbara.

01:01:22.600 --> 01:01:23.600
Thanks, guys.

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Well, you know, that is freaking
actually.

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But it's cool.

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Kind of cool that way.

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Lots of people have asked me
about Mark Hunter's Tartan
podcast.

01:01:33.600 --> 01:01:35.600
And, you know, has he left
Podshow?

01:01:35.600 --> 01:01:36.600
What's going on?

01:01:36.600 --> 01:01:37.600
Yes.

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We had brought him into the
network as a part of the music
podcast.

01:01:43.600 --> 01:01:48.600
There's also also make up the
podcast, the Podshow Music
Review,

01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:51.600
the weekly review of what the
music podcasts are playing.

01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:56.600
And he basically, you know, said
that he didn't want the
commitment anymore.

01:01:56.600 --> 01:02:00.600
And he wanted to be let out of
his agreement, which we did.

01:02:00.600 --> 01:02:02.600
And I wish him all the best,
obviously.

01:02:02.600 --> 01:02:04.600
And totally get it.

01:02:04.600 --> 01:02:05.600
Totally understand it.

01:02:05.600 --> 01:02:09.600
And so I think his frequency of
shows will be somewhat less than
it has been today.

01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:11.600
But I remain subscribed.

01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:12.600
And I'll be listening.

01:02:12.600 --> 01:02:15.600
And Steve Harris says, Adam,
notice your cast blaster set up.

01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:17.600
Doesn't include all the usual
ID3 tags.

01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:20.600
You wouldn't notice this if he
used iTunes to subscribe because
it

01:02:20.600 --> 01:02:22.600
fills them in when you download.

01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:24.600
But I'm a net news wire guy.

01:02:24.600 --> 01:02:25.600
Well, I found out what that was.

01:02:25.600 --> 01:02:29.600
I indeed, the under-describe in
cast blaster.

01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:31.600
There's a thing for show.

01:02:31.600 --> 01:02:39.600
Now, I've been testing the new
version, which works with the
Podshow podcast delivery
network.

01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:43.600
And when you, basically, you log
into the network with cast
blaster.

01:02:43.600 --> 01:02:45.600
And you can have a number of
shows.

01:02:45.600 --> 01:02:47.600
And it's a drop down menu and
you just select it.

01:02:47.600 --> 01:02:53.600
And then it knows automatically
where to post the show notes and
where to upload the file to.

01:02:53.600 --> 01:02:58.600
Unfortunately, with all this
testing and moving around, that
got deselected.

01:02:58.600 --> 01:03:00.600
So now I've re-selected it.

01:03:00.600 --> 01:03:05.600
It's got the daily source code
there in the show name, which
should show up in the album
field of the ID3 tag.

01:03:05.600 --> 01:03:06.600
So thanks.

01:03:06.600 --> 01:03:08.600
A couple other people let me
know about that as well.

01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:10.600
So I totally appreciate it.

01:03:10.600 --> 01:03:12.600
Check this audio feedback now.

01:03:12.600 --> 01:03:14.600
This is from the Podance.

01:03:14.600 --> 01:03:15.600
Look.

01:03:15.600 --> 01:03:18.600
Return one of my calls, please.

01:03:18.600 --> 01:03:21.600
I heard episode 2019.

01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:22.600
You drunk, man.

01:03:22.600 --> 01:03:23.600
I mentioned our name.

01:03:23.600 --> 01:03:24.600
It was in the United States.

01:03:24.600 --> 01:03:26.600
It's a delivery network,
partner.

01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:28.600
Bro, I'm screwed.

01:03:28.600 --> 01:03:33.600
I got so many members of the
media called me over the
weekend.

01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:36.600
I mean, you read the press
release for that thing yet.

01:03:36.600 --> 01:03:40.600
Dude, I got to get, you got to
put the no-dam announcements

01:03:41.600 --> 01:03:43.600
rule back in effect.

01:03:43.600 --> 01:03:45.600
Chris is on the road.

01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:47.600
I mean, we can't handle this
right now.

01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:50.600
Give me a week to get the news
out.

01:03:50.600 --> 01:03:55.600
I mean, Jesus, killing me.

01:03:55.600 --> 01:03:58.600
Seriously.

01:03:58.600 --> 01:04:01.600
If it comes to it, I will...

01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:05.600
You know, if you keep talking
about this, I'm going to get
desperate.

01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:09.600
I'm going to go get Chris
Rockwell and a bunch of Mexican
food.

01:04:09.600 --> 01:04:12.600
We're going to break into
Trinity and do our own damn
biodiesel experiment.

01:04:12.600 --> 01:04:13.600
Huh?

01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:14.600
How does that sound?

01:04:14.600 --> 01:04:17.600
It's getting a little crazy on
the Sunday night.

01:04:17.600 --> 01:04:19.600
You're pit, this pissed.

01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:22.600
And you better return a
brother's phone call in a hurry.

01:04:22.600 --> 01:04:23.600
All right?

01:04:23.600 --> 01:04:27.600
That's Aaron Bursell.

01:04:27.600 --> 01:04:31.600
The Pod Pimp marketing
communications at Pod Show.

01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:35.600
I mentioned that we've partnered
with Limelight for the Pod Show
podcast delivery network.

01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:36.600
Okay.

01:04:36.600 --> 01:04:39.600
I promise I won't talk about
Limelight until at least next
week.

01:04:39.600 --> 01:04:42.600
All right.

01:04:42.600 --> 01:04:43.600
All right.

01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:46.600
Final thing for today in the
hook a brother up category.

01:04:54.600 --> 01:04:56.600
How do you pick my care?

01:04:56.600 --> 01:04:59.600
This is a quick step aside from
the exercise we'll actually
show.

01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:02.600
I just want to let you know
about my band's tour.

01:05:02.600 --> 01:05:05.600
The freak accident we're going
on the road with...

01:05:05.600 --> 01:05:08.600
Vancouver's removal.

01:05:08.600 --> 01:05:12.600
Seven ugly guys and too many
vans tour.

01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:14.600
Here's our tour dates.

01:05:14.600 --> 01:05:21.600
Thursday January 26th will be in
Seattle at the sunset tavern on
Ballard Avenue.

01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:27.600
For right-day we'll be in
Tacoma, Washington at Hell's
Kitchen.

01:05:27.600 --> 01:05:34.600
Saturday, January 28th will be
in Richland, Washington at Ray's
Golden Lion.

01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:38.600
On Sunday we'll be in Portland
at Syballas.

01:05:38.600 --> 01:05:40.600
On Hawthorn.

01:05:40.600 --> 01:05:48.600
Monday, January 30th will be in
Salem, Oregon at SIP.

01:05:48.600 --> 01:05:52.600
And we'll be playing with the
Cherry City Deadmeats.

01:05:52.600 --> 01:05:55.600
That's an all-age show, by the
way.

01:05:55.600 --> 01:05:57.600
Tuesday, let's see.

01:05:57.600 --> 01:06:02.600
Eugene, we're playing at either
the Samurai Duck or the Black
Forest.

01:06:02.600 --> 01:06:07.600
It's not sure which, with a band
called Some What Envious.

01:06:07.600 --> 01:06:12.600
And then we'll be back home in
San Francisco where we'll be
playing on Wednesday the first

01:06:12.600 --> 01:06:14.600
at the elbow room with the
fleshes.

01:06:14.600 --> 01:06:18.600
This is the all these shows are
with removal as well.

01:06:18.600 --> 01:06:22.600
Then Thursday February 2nd will
be in Berkeley at the Starry
Plow.

01:06:22.600 --> 01:06:26.600
That one's with Kyoto Nation.

01:06:26.600 --> 01:06:31.600
Then we'll be Friday we'll be
over in Sacramento at all the
iron sights.

01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:37.600
And Saturday February 4th will
be the last show in Poin Arena.

01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:45.600
And that's at the VFW Hall with
Lockjaw.

01:06:45.600 --> 01:06:48.600
So, if you're out there, come
check out our shows.

01:06:48.600 --> 01:06:52.600
It's going to be fun.

01:06:52.600 --> 01:06:56.600
I'm also going to be doing extra
super actual show updates.

01:06:56.600 --> 01:07:00.600
The freak accident is going to
be on its own feed.

01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:04.600
Still not sure how we're going
to do all this, but we're going
to do it.

01:07:04.600 --> 01:07:07.600
Until then, I say to you.

01:07:07.600 --> 01:07:11.600
But I don't speak Chinese.

01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:55.600
[ Music ]

01:07:55.600 --> 01:08:16.600
A bit of freak accident there
and some tour date announcements
from Big Mike extra super action
show.

01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:21.600
I played those because I
realized that back in the day,
even on MTV, we used to do tour
dates.

01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:23.600
We had the concert guide.

01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:25.600
And he used to be a big thing.

01:08:25.600 --> 01:08:31.600
Of course, now with the web,
it's much easier for people to
just look at that information up
online.

01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:33.600
You hear from it in a multitude
of ways.

01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:34.600
But I was kind of cool.

01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:35.600
The big Mike went back old
school.

01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:39.600
So I wanted to make sure he got
some good distribution on the
tour dates.

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.600
And I think I might be able to
catch one of the shows.

01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:45.600
Actually, I caught kind of one
of the shows at the Pod Show
offices.

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:50.600
When was Ron's birthday freak
accident performed.

01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:55.600
On what we used to call the
stage, what is now known as
conference room too.

01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:58.600
We put the wall in finally, so
we can't have him perform there
next time.

01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:02.600
Anyway, if you made it through
this entire show, and I think
this is some sort of a record.

01:09:02.600 --> 01:09:03.600
68 minutes.

01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:04.600
I really appreciate it.

01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:05.600
I hope you enjoyed it.

01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:10.600
Of course, Patricia made it go
long because she popped in, but
it was cool to have her on the
show again.

01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.600
And I'll be back tomorrow with
another daily source code.

01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:15.600
So in the meantime, keep your
promos coming.

01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.600
Promos.podshow.com.

01:09:17.600 --> 01:09:20.600
You feed back at
americancurry.com if it all
possible.

01:09:20.600 --> 01:09:23.600
Through that feedback on a
server and just send me the
link.

01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:24.600
Please.

01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:28.600
And all the episodes updates in
the place to subscribe.

01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:30.600
Of course, a daily source
code.com.

01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:31.600
Take care, everybody.

01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:32.600
See you tomorrow.

01:09:32.600 --> 01:09:35.600
Another pod show podcast.

01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.600
Stick it in your ear.