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Delta Sierra Charlie 3-2

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$16 million worth of airplane
strapped my ass

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in the next generation radio
content in my ears

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I like to think I'm flying into
this journey

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I'm just kidding

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It's so curry

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Coming to you from the sunny
suburbs of Surrey

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It is the daily source code from
the Curry County

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[ Music ]

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And I'm sure one leg and one leg

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There you are, you are the
Ferris of the Mall.

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It's criminal from San
Francisco, kicking off Thursdays

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edition of the Daily Source
Code.

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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Everything here is good.

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Sad news.

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Yesterday that reached me after
I'd already done the show

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about to the passing of Chris
Penn.

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And it really sucks when someone
from your own generation

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goes, first of all, it makes you
more aware of your own mortality

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and all that typical crap.

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What is this hissing sound of
here?

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What is that?

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Whatever.

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I know all three Penn Brothers,
I've met them all on the same
occasion.

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Michael Penn, I met at MTV when
he first came out with his,

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I guess it was his first album.

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And both Sean and Chris, I met
on the funny,

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we were on an airplane together.

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They used to be the service
between New York and Los Angeles

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called, oh man, shoot.

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Now I forget the name of it.

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It was like the golden
something.

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God, now I can't remember.

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Anyway, it was an exclusive
airline.

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And it cost like, you know, 50%
more than regular first class
ticket.

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Or maybe not that much more, but
I did cost a little bit more.

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I wish I could remember the name
of it.

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And basically they had, I think
it was 737s.

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And they could only take 25
passengers,

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or some ridiculous amount like
that.

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Maybe it was 35 passengers.

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And they had a bar and it was
really chic, you know,

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I'd had, you know, it had state
rooms.

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We could sit two and two across
from each other with a table

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that would come up from the
floor.

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And you could, you know, you
would have your meals served
there very

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much like the Oriental Express.

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I remember actually going to the
bathroom the first time.

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And I thought I'd walked into a
wrong room.

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It was so huge, just
unbelievable.

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And so one time I was traveling
to Los Angeles.

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And this is MTV days.

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And across from me, and next to
me were Chris Penn, Sean Penn,

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and their mom, I think her name
is, I want to say,

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I lean, I think.

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And so there you are, you know,
you're going to sit there for
six hours.

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And we all knew kind of who we
were.

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And so obviously conversation
did start.

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But not after Chris had taken
off his T-shirt

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and he was basically drinking
beer from a can with no shirt

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on it.

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I think he had shoes on.

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But they were delightful, both
of those guys.

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And this was actually not long
after Sean Penn,

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had, I don't know if they were
just separated

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or the divorce from Madonna.

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And, you know, of course, during
a six hour flight,

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there's a lot to talk about.

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And, you know, I said, you know,
we'll do.

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So I hope everything's okay with
the personal situation.

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How uh, how that going, he said,
dude,

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hell, half no fury with that
bitch.

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And, uh, so it was nice.

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It was nice meeting those guys.

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And it's sad that Chris has
passed.

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I think it might be
alcohol-related,

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maybe just overused his body a
bit,

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but nonetheless sad, it's like
fucking my age.

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Um, very exciting this morning.

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Um, I uh, I was able to import
my entire podcast subscription
list

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from my iTunes right into my pod
show,

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which is, I've told you about
this yesterday.

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This is this whole, you know,
listening interface

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where you can become, you know,
a registered listener

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of a podcast, uh, it handles all
of your,

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um, all of your subscriptions,
you know,

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neatly manages it, um, you can
share stuff with each other.

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And what's nice about this is so
basically, you know,

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from iTunes, you just say, you
know, okay,

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it's export my entire
subscription list.

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Uh, you, you, uh, you know,

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click that into my pod show.

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And all of your subscriptions
then appear there.

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Do you hear that?

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That's the, oh, it's the window
cleaner.

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How you doing?

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Uh, it's not listening.

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All right.

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Um, so you import all of those,
um,

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and they, they show up in a
playlist.

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Now what's nice about it is you
can then choose

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windows media player, real of
this.

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Of course, an XML icon or you
just click on,

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and here's the, this is the cool
thing.

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You just click on the iTunes
logo.

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And then it subscribes you, but
only to one feed.

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So all your podcasts show up in
one feed.

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And what's great about this is
anything you change.

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You, you can subscribe to this
feed, you know,

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through any podcasting device,
basically.

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Uh, so you could have, you know,

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subscribe that home.

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You could have a version
subscribed, uh,

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you could have it subscribed at
the office.

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And you change everything just
from, uh,

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in any web browser.

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That's where you can add and
delete subscriptions,

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or, you know, as we say, get a
show or I already got a show.

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It's much simpler language.

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Um, and when you change it on
the website,

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which you can do from anywhere,

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it changes across all of the
machines that,

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that are subscribed to that one
single feed.

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And you can have multiple feeds,
you know,

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by basically creating a new
playlist.

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So you might want to have a
different set of shows that
download at work.

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Um, as to, as opposed to what
you have at home.

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It's really cool.

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Uh, I'm totally digging this.

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You can rearrange, uh, the
order, uh,

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you can create new playlists and
sub playlists.

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Just shit, just keeps on going.

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It's really, really cool.

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I think that this is the first
time I've seen something focused

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on the listener and really the
listening side of the equation
that is,

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that's gotten me excited.

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And that this, of course, is me
and, uh, in listener mode.

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Yo, Adam, trucker Tom here with
an epiphany.

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I had regarding the pod save
music network.

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Why not set it up so that
everyone participating on the
network

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could leave identifying tags for
pieces of music,

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similar to the way you can leave
tags on flinger photos.

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And then make the tag
searchable.

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Then I could search for terms
such as kicks ass or mellow

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to find the songs other PMN
users had left.

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It would add yet another great
way for everyone to find the
music that we're looking for.

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You can find links to everything
I'm involved in at
truckerfoto.com.

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See ya.

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Right on, trucker Tom.

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Uh-huh.

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We rough on my ass there, TT.

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Um, you know, absolutely.

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That is, um, and I know, no
Georgia scientist is listening
and he's probably smiling.

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Of course, it makes so much
sense where you can tag content.

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Wouldn't that be awesome if it
would be, you know, if you're
able to tag a song from the

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pod save music network or, um,
tag, uh, geez, I don't know, a
picture or whatever.

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And then those tags would carry
through.

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So if there was an enhanced
podcast file, the tags would
still be intact.

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Of the pictures used in it and
the music used in it.

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Mm-hmm.

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I don't think there's
technological barriers.

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I think that what we're doing is
the right thing, man.

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We're just sitting here dreaming
about this shit, totally digging
it.

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Um, for the past, what is it
now?

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Almost two weeks we've been
announcing a new podcast members
who were joining the podcast,
uh,

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the pod show podcast family and
today is no exception.

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I don't want any coffee.

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Quit your day job stuff is
really cool, but you know what?

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I really don't have a day job to
quit.

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Just remember, I'm Jade Ollie.

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I'm not shadow steel and we do
crap in kudos, celebrity
interviews, pod save music,

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and we do stuff like, uh, like
this.

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I remember your time.

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Oh, man, I'm nice cup of sense
out.

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Crap, wrong promo.

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This, you know, when I was a
young boy, they told me not to
quit my day job,

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because my shit ain't shut.

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[ Music ]

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You, why did you?

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This is TV, slip, shit, you know
what?

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Oh, quit your day job, mother.

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In celebration of being a new
family member to Pot Show,

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I thought I'd write a new music
jingle, so, um, uh, here it is.

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The Bad Fathers, the Bad
Fathers,

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[ Music ]

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keep your eye on PotShow.com
because pretty soon,

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gonna help you to all that, and
I think, uh,

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once we get to our podcasters up
and rolling,

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and there's a shitloader that
will be bandwidth,

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and y'all kinds of support, and
that works support,

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if you will, uh, then we're
gonna go after you.

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We're coming to get you 100
million listeners.

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Yeah.

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I'm Jade Donley, madpod.com.

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Thank you for inviting me.

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I had no brother love.

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Yo, JD, thanks, man. I love it.

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Hopefully you'll send me that as
a separate file,

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so I can use that on the show
once in a while.

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And you know what, you too soon,
we'll be able to talk about

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Acqueview and the sponsorship of
Heather and Janelle.

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Download.acqueview.com.

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So that was the window washer.

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I thought it was the, um, I
thought it was the, uh,

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the radiators that just need
some of the air needs to be let
out.

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And I turned around, there was a
guy staring right back at me.

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It's kind of weird.

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And he was listening to me
because the windows open is head
was right by the window.

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I don't know what he was
thinking.

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Well, maybe it's just thinking
him out.

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You know, I'm just cleaning the
pod father's windows and it was
so.

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So, um, yeah, I met JD and in
person, um, when I was in San
Francisco last time.

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Very smart.

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Lots of the cool production
ideas and always walking around
with a recorder.

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Nice to see the dig.com is
picked up on the ample ignoring
or,

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at least not being very
communicative about the, uh,
sound issue on the new

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power books, which is affected
my show severely, um, and is
affecting apparently lots of

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people who are professional, um,
users of sound applications.

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Let's, let's just put it that
way.

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And, uh, I'm sure that it'll get
fixed and it'll get resolved.

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Somehow I have a very nasty
feeling that it's a hardware
issue and that it's going to
have to be fixed

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at the hardware level, which
means, you know, everyone taking
their, their machines back to
the

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shop, not an option I'm looking
forward to.

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But that's kind of what it feels
like to me, um, you know, so
maybe there's something that can
be

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done with a firmware, but it
couldn't, you know, these are
new machines.

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This is new hardware.

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So that's where I'd look for the
bugs first because it didn't
have this on the previous power
book.

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A power book defect dot info is
where you can sign up if you're
having the same

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problems everybody else is
having.

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We just want a little bit of
attention, I guess.

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It makes no sense to me that
Apple just doesn't say it's one
simple paragraph, you know,

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hey, dudes and dudeettes, we
hear you.

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We're working on the problem,
looking into it.

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That would shut everybody and
everything will be quiet.

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You know, we'd wait.

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Oh, wait, no problem.

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Just let me know.

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I know it's not in the DNA of
the company, but it's so like

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1980s to do it that way.

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Here, here's how a technology
company operates in 2006.

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Email from Ed Truji, oh, now I'm
buttering this.

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Let me see Ed Trujilo, I'll go
with Trujilo.

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Ed, hey, my, my name is Ed
Trujilo.

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I'm the president and author of
the programs at
www.contactplus.com.

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One of your loyal listeners
suggested that we send you a
free copy of the Countdown

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Clock and I agree, please enjoy.

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And how cool is that?

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Only yesterday, the day before I
was talking about this, this
wonderful

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piece of software called
Countdown Clock, which does
exactly what I want it to do.

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Nothing more, nothing less.

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You can set the time to start.

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It counts down 10 seconds before
it hits zero.

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It starts flashing out.

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You get your attention and then
you can, you can self-select a
sound

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that it will make when, you
know, like an egg timer.

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And it comes with this default,
which I'm kind of grooving on
recently,

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which in some countries is used
on television shows, apparently.

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And it's great.

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And there's a 30-day evaluation
period.

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And I was going to buy the
program anyway.

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And so now I got a free license.

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And I hope that other people who
are looking for Countdown
timers,

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it should you need one in your
podcast.

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We'll take a look at Countdown
Clock at contactplus.com.

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See, that is how the technology
company of today operates.

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Let me see.

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What else do we have here?

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Oh, this was like we got some
good feedback and questions and
comments on the

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pod-sick music network.

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And splits and fees and payments
and royalties and all kinds of
stuff like that.

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Here's one dear to my heart
about the tax man.

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Adam Jason from San Diego.

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And listen to your shows and
your sounds that you're ready to
roll out your

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pod-sick music network, music
cell and machine.

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And I just wanted to touch base
with you on something.

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See, if you actually look into
the tax implementations that you
might have

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in giving checks to these
artists who are giving you music

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and you're selling it on there,
we have.

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There's just something that if
you have a look into,

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I'm sure you've worked all out.

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But if not, I would just
recommend having your lawyers be
with other lawyers

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and lawyer talk and make sure
that you're open it out in the

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clear and you're not sending
yourself up for a huge tax
liability.

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Anywho, love what you do, keep
doing it, rock on.

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Go dude, thank you, appreciate
it.

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Yes, we actually have quite a
bit of experience with this.

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Brian Longus, who is our
director, I'm sorry, senior VP
of operations.

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I didn't want to demote him like
Michael Butler always does.

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Has a lot of experience with
affiliate networks and with
global payments.

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The hardest thing actually is,
if you're a member of Amazon as
an example,

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they'll send you a check,
they'll send you a US-based
check which in most countries

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around the world cost three
times as much to process through
your local bank

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as the actual amount on the
check itself, which really
sucks.

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So the most obvious thing to
solve is, how do we get money to
people as efficiently as
possible?

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The taxation issues were very
rare when I appreciate you
saying that.

17:47.880 --> 17:52.440
Yes, I filled the sense say
we're up a little bit too much
with milk today, so it's getting
cold

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on our second. I love making it
with milk. I love it with milk.

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What else was I going to say
regarding that? I think we hit
that one.

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So melts I wanted to talk about,
I'll suck on me, just move this
down here. I'm doing

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stuff from my outliner here so
that I can keep track of
everything. What do we have on
the

18:19.720 --> 18:24.680
satellite window? Another six
minutes good. So the news now
about Google, Google providing a

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sanitized version of their
search results to the people's
Republic of China.

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And so what I'm hearing and
reading and seeing everywhere
is, oh, you know, now they're

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they're only doing half evil,
they are evil, you have all
kinds of complaining and whining
and

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moaning. And well, I'm thinking,
well, what is the big deal?
First of all, if we truly
believe

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in freedom of speech, we should
be helping our brothers and
sisters in the people's Republic
of China

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and enabling them to get access
to information that is being
held back by their government

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and by complacent corporations.
Now, by the way, I'm not against
Google stands and they're
saying,

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hey, at least we're getting
something to them and we'll keep
working on it. Okay, that's
fine.

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You know, I have, I have no
other opinion about that. But
from what I've seen,

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there's some form of filtering
going on based upon words, words
like freedom, like sex, like

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anal intrusion, you know,
whatever. And the results
actually show up and it says,

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underneath the results, it'll
say, some of the results for
this query have been filtered
for your

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protection or whatever. Well,
how simple is this shit? I mean,
if we really want to help, our

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brothers and sisters, all we
have to do is come up with some
simple schemes that just
translate

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the words into something else
and then back to the original
words on the other end. You
know,

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we can keep out running this as
fast as we want. It's like the,
you know, it's simple

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cipher stuff. You know, and, of
course, Google then have to work
on replacing the code and

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working out the ciphers. I mean,
it's substitution cipher. You
know, like my daughter, she's on
on MSN

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and very often when she wants to
have a private conversation, PAW
parents are watching.

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She switches to a font, which
like the Zing Daps, Zip Vits
font, whatever, that just shows

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symbol. So you can't read it. I
mean, stuff like that is really
simple. Shouldn't we all, if we

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really truly believe that we
want to help our brothers and
sisters in China? And I do
believe that,

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shouldn't we be, you know, not
be bitching, shouldn't we be
immediately creating,

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maybe a whole separate set of
documents? You know, I'd like a
plugin for my weblog software
that

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when I click it, it also
produces a document which at
first glance will look like a
lot of

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gibberish because the words
freedom will be spelled as, you
know, FR33D0M or something like
that.

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I mean, it seems simple enough
to circumvent the filters. And I
think if we can organize

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where we would all have these,
oh, I'm just starting to get
into this. Now, where we all
have these,

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you know, little publishing
widgets that are built into our
systems, you publish and it
produces

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the page in English and it also
produces a version that sits on
your server and gets indexed,

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but, you know, all of the
offensive quote words that get
filtered out are shaped like,

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instead of saying porn, we say,
prawn, you know, PR-0N. Come on,
how hard is this? So let's,

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you know, stop beating Google
and Yahoo and Microsoft over the
head. And although important to

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make note of what they're doing,
I don't want to, you know, I
don't want that fact to be
buried at all,

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but come on, technologists,
let's get this going. You know,
this is how about the WordPress

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development organization, you
know, this is a great idea for a
plugin. And what are they doing
with

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digital media files? Are they
going to scan every single one
for the words freedom or they're
just going to

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block all MP3 files and all
podcasts? I don't know. Hey, if
you're in the People's Republic
of China,

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send me an email, add them at
curry.com. Let me know if you
can hear the sound of my voice.

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This is good stuff, you know, we
can, we can really make a
difference here. Let's not
focus,

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and let's not give up just
because, you know, there's a,
there's some form of firewall in
place.

22:12.760 --> 22:17.800
My God, we can hack into Paris,
Hilton's phone. We can certainly
circumvent this.

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This will call me down.

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everybody. Hey, Adam, it's the
car simulator.

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Wanted to leave you an audio
comment just driving here in my
car, fart at the i River. I was

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listening to DSC322 and you
asked for some artist feedback
on this split business

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with selling music over the PMM.
Anyways, wanted to say, long
time listener, a long time

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fan of what you're doing, love
podcasting, got into it cash,
like 2004 and 2004, something

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like that, loved it, loved it,
loved it, then loving and
listening to the DSC for a long
time.

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Got my own podcast, by the way,
carcinator.com, go check it out.

23:34.440 --> 23:38.040
As an artist, about this split
business,

23:38.920 --> 23:50.440
under the old system, riders and
publishers and whatever would
get mere pennies. Each time

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their works were played on radio
or their works were sold on a CD
or out or whatever.

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I'm talking pennies. I don't
know exactly what it is. I'm as
a cap, but the PMM pays pretty
much the same

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here in the States. It's not 10
cents. It's not very much money
per player. It's been on the
radio.

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You know, you're sitting in your
car listening to your serious
satellite radio. The stars

24:15.240 --> 24:19.000
103 think, and hey, this guy's
in his car. He's talking some
interesting stuff about

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making money in the independent
music business. But you can't
listen to it all because

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the windows closing. The
specific coast, hell, way is
next and you can always join in
the

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festivities tomorrow and the
thank God it's Friday edition of
the source code.

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And for y'all who were hanging
out on the podcast, we continue.
So with podcasting, what

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sounds really cool is not
podcasting specifically, but
through a podcast, somebody
purchased

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as your music eventually through
PMM. I mean, the idea that you
could get 25, 30 cents or 40
cents

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on the dollar or per sale is
just stupid money for a writer,
publisher, artist, whatever you
are

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in the old system. So with how
we should go forward and kind of
what you ask for,

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you know, some feedback and it's
yet. Why not we, why don't we
look at it like this?

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Potchos taking nothing up front,
which by the way, hey, that's so
fucking cool. And I love

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that you're doing it. And I
think it's going to really pay
off for you in the long run so

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good call on that. It's just,
you know, way to go. But
anyways,

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whatever you take, which is, you
know, nothing at first,
whatever's left of that

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should be split down the middle
between the podcast that's sent
you there or the artist. And

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if no podcast, you know, if
there's no referring podcast or
whatever, there's no other

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marty then, you know, the artist
could take take all of it. All
of what's left after, you know,

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PMM processes it. That's nothing
for now, whatever it is later.
You know, those are my thoughts.

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So whatever the, the sense work
out to be, let's say at first,
I'm getting 50 cents on one of
my

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songs that I sell on the PMM,
then that's pretty amazing. I
mean, you're talking 50 cents.

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That's, that's stupid money, the
old way. I mean, stupid money
for the writer and the artist or

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whatever. So, you know, then
that leaves 50 cents if say, if
I'm the artist, but I'm not the
writer

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and I'm not the publisher and I
don't know how that would work
out. Or let's just say it works
out

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that way. There's multiple
parties involved on my side.
I've got 50 cents to split up
on, you know,

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each unit sold. Now, I know
we're going to be dealing in a
lot smaller numbers, but hey, I
mean,

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I think it's a good place to
start, you know, and if this
grows into something huge,

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you've got, you know,
independence making some pretty
good money, you know, as it
were,

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only far more money than I'd
ever make, you know, getting my
songs sold through iTunes.

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You know, even though it's
delivered to the internet, it's
just, it's still paid using the
old way.

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So, you know, it's made a few
people rich and it's, you know,
made a lot of people

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enslaved. So, whatever, you
know, anyways, I'm weird. Hey,
carcinator.com, if you want to
check out my

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website and what I do, and I
admit thanks for the time,
thanks for the great show, I'll
be listening,

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and talk to you all later.
Thanks Adam. Yeah, all right,
cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Thank you.

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I appreciate it. The first
artist, musician slash writer,
songwriter, who was actually
provided me

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feedback on this issue. That's
fantastic. I'm so happy to hear
that, you know, that you already

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know that you're going to be
able to make a lot more money
per sale than you would through
iTunes.

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Now, I just want to reiterate
here, you know, we're not
building a store, because a
store means

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everything's for sale. Remember,
this is the pod save music
network we're talking about. So,
if you

27:46.520 --> 27:50.520
don't want to make your, as an
artist, you don't want to make
your songs available for
purchase

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and DRM-free MP3 download. You
don't have to, you know, that's
fine. You could still only make

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it available for podcasters.
That's fantastic. Conversely, if
you help in the purchasing
process,

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if you're there, the
transaction, you send someone
over who buys something. You can
always donate

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your money to the artist, your
portion. That's no problem. And
yesterday there was an idea for,

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you know, like credits so that
you could then offer a credit to
someone else to, you know,

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for them to get a free song, the
money would still go to the
artist, you know, it's good
stuff

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there. And I think it would just
make it, like he had a dog, man.
Ever since Jesse died, he's,

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he feels like he's, like he's
really protecting the, the
entire place. And he's no bigger
than a

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football, you know. Schwabar,
it's okay. Damn. Okay, brief
update on the court situation
with a Dutch

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rag mag. We're going to court.
They, they tried, excuse me. He
offered me,

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both at 1,500 bucks or euros.
Sorry. Some caught my throat
there. They offered me a
hairball,

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probably. Oh, no, I know what it
is. Oh, god, late last night.
Anyway, I'm sure Professor
Lauren's

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lesson will be happy to hear
about the hairball. Because he
got in touch with me through,

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listener of the source code, who
is apparently in one of his
courses or classes or what you
would call

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that and Lawrence jump right in
and he's working with my
attorneys and we're taking these
guys all the way.

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There are two, two sets of
procedures in the Netherlands.
One is the Court of the Ding,

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which is kind of like an express
process. And in that, you know,
we're going to have the judge,

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the judge has to base and
remember, no jury here, only a
judge. The judge has to say,

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yes, violation of law, yes,
endangerment of a child, yes,
invasion of privacy.

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And then, from there, we go into
something called the Bowdoin
Procedutor, which is a much

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longer process. It could take
two or three years, actually,
where we actually get into,

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you know, how much money they
made, how endangered the child
was, you know, all this stuff.

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But first, we get a year or an a
and then we go into the, to the
second process. I'm really

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doing, I'm taking this all the
way because I'm just pissed, you
know, when you have women and

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children being sued for for
allegedly or even if they are,
you know, sharing some MP3 files

30:24.520 --> 30:32.920
to the tune of, you know,
$50,000 dollars as a fine and
the, you know, the RIA
settlement agency

30:32.920 --> 30:37.480
calls you trying to finagle you
into a settlement. Hey, man,
screw it, you know, it works the

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other way around too,
particularly with creative
comments. It's important that we
prove that this

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does hold up in court. So this
shit just can't happen. The
arrogance just blows me away.

30:48.440 --> 30:55.960
Real arrogance from these guys.
So the, the expedited procedure
may even serve next week,

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as soon as next week or early
next week. So I'll let you know,
keep you up the speed on that.

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Hey, Adam, it's Brian from
Jester on the Pod Safe Music
Network here. I had some
thoughts

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regarding the recent discussion
about introducing new people to
podcasts and the usual response

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of, I don't have an iPod. Now I
like to burn CDs of my favourite
podcasts for my friends,

31:19.800 --> 31:25.480
and I thought it would be a
really good idea to have a short
five minute what is a podcast
intro

31:25.480 --> 31:30.600
that anybody can download and
burn onto a CD that they're
giving out to their friends. Of
course,

31:30.600 --> 31:35.960
the podfather himself would be
the obvious choice of hosts for
this. So how about making

31:35.960 --> 31:40.600
a special introduction and
saying something like, Hi, this
is Adam Curry. The person that
gave

31:40.600 --> 31:45.320
this CD would like to introduce
you to the wonderful world of
podcasting. You could then go on
to

31:45.320 --> 31:50.920
explain how to get podcasts, why
people should use the
subscription features, and why
they don't

31:50.920 --> 31:57.080
need a freaking iPod. I think
this might be a really valuable
resource to get lots of new
listeners.

31:57.960 --> 32:03.080
You know, I like that idea very
much. Hold on, let's do it right
now. Stick this on fun of

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whatever you're going to burn
onto a CD for a friend. And
let's try this on for size. Hold
on a second.

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So I do it a little bit of echo,
make it kind of like an
attention getter. Oh no, let me
see,

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what I do it here. Hello, hello,
okay. Now that's too late. I
can't do that.

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Oh, the delta in a dime. Hi,
this is Adam Curry. Now the
person that gave you this CD did
so

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to introduce you to the
wonderful world of podcasting.
As you can hear, you don't need
an iPod

32:29.320 --> 32:34.600
to enjoy the wealth of
information and passion that
podcasting has to offer. Ask
your friend

32:34.600 --> 32:39.640
about their favorite site to
learn more about podcasting and
enjoy this podcast.

32:41.560 --> 32:46.040
There. See, that way you could
wherever you learned about
podcasting, whatever work for
you,

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you can send them off there. So
there you go. It's a good idea.
And if we want to do more

32:51.560 --> 32:55.000
produced stuff, we can. Let's
just see how this one works. Now
let me get onto your comment

32:55.000 --> 32:59.000
because you had something else
pretty cool I wanted to share.
On a different topic and under

32:59.000 --> 33:04.120
the alternative advertising
category, I've just added a new
song to the pod safe news it

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network, which is dedicated to
my favorite daily source code
inspired Christmas present.

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Yes, that one. Check it out on
the PMN under the artist's name,

33:15.640 --> 33:19.640
Justa, that's J-E-S-T-A. Thanks,
Adam. Bye.

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Justa? Well, so let me tell you,
the timing of this could not be
better. We've got KJ in

33:28.440 --> 33:35.000
New York, Atlanta, Chicago,
preparing for the next trip that
Ron and I are going to take to
New York

33:35.000 --> 33:39.880
Atlanta, Chicago. Because, you
know, we're going back to
Madison Avenue. It's time for
round two.

33:39.880 --> 33:45.880
We want to have stuff baked into
budgets for next year. And, you
know, we've got a lot of
interest,

33:45.880 --> 33:51.880
particularly around what's
happening with some of the
advertising and some of the
reactions we've

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seen from our listeners in
podcasting. So, how cool is it
when someone threw an
advertising

33:59.160 --> 34:05.320
that was made by a listener?
Riddlekakes made that, made the
the initial ad. And we talked
about

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the eye dog a lot. You know, we
had ongoing conversations about
it and feedback from you guys,

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which we continued to loop
through everything. It was fun
to talk about. You bought one.

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And then you liked it so much.
You made a song about it, which
you've now made available on the

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podcasting music network. This
blows me away and check out the
song.

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[ Music ]

37:07.760 --> 37:13.020
I don't care about anything,
there's all I need

37:13.020 --> 37:17.620
I don't care about anything,
there's all I need

37:17.620 --> 37:21.760
I don't care about anything

37:21.760 --> 37:24.080
Do you realize what's happening
here?

37:24.080 --> 37:26.100
There's a fricking revolution,
this is fantastic

37:26.100 --> 37:28.820
Can you imagine this happening
in traditional media?

37:28.820 --> 37:30.320
No way!

37:30.320 --> 37:31.100
No way in hell!

37:31.100 --> 37:35.820
hell and it certainly wouldn't
make it onto the air. No way.
Now, here's what I could predict

37:35.820 --> 37:42.380
the next step would be. If
someone out there has video
editing skills, you know, make a
video

37:42.380 --> 37:47.740
for this. Make a commercial. I
can only imagine how quick, you
know, it's the typical,

37:47.740 --> 37:52.060
poppy, dribble thing, friends
like sounding, thing that would
get your attention and make

37:52.060 --> 37:56.220
you feel good about the eye dog.
Come on, you can feel it. You
know, and then everyone could

37:56.220 --> 38:00.220
get paid for contributing in
that process. He's.

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I think I'll hold the PMN back
just a little bit.

38:56.780 --> 39:01.820
Something I didn't know, but was
pointed out to me. I've been
talking about this auto-delete

39:01.820 --> 39:07.420
function that is in iTunes. If
you don't listen to more than
five episodes or five episodes

39:07.420 --> 39:11.660
of a podcast that stops
downloading new episodes for you
and it kind of messes you up on
high

39:11.660 --> 39:20.540
frequency output feeds. Well, it
turns out, according to Dorky
Dude, Dorky Dude,

39:21.500 --> 39:27.340
he says, I recently downloaded
iTunes 6.0.2.2 3 and they fixed
the podcast problem.

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Right click on a podcast and
click, do not auto-delete. Hope
this helps you in the listeners.

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Thank you. Indeed. I didn't know
that. So I've already, and it's
still not a default,

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but this is better than nothing.
So that is appreciated. But I
think it should still be
default.

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Otherwise, you know, people can
definitely get confused. And I
think at this point, it's about

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the experience for the
listeners. Wouldn't you agree?
Hey, everybody. This is Bob from
the podcast reviewer.

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I want you to check out my show
at the podcast reviewer.com. I'm
not a regular review show.

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I actually care about what the
podcasters think of what I'd say
in the reviews. And I even try
to

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help them. If you're a
podcaster, send me your podcast
to the podcast reviewer at
gmail.com.

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And if you're a pod guest
listener, well, come listen to
my podcast. I listen to all the
crap.

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So you don't have to. If I say
it's good, it's going to be a
good podcast. And if I say it
sucks,

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well, you can download it. You
can listen to one episode and
find out that I'm right. So

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check me out at www.the
podcaseryviewer.com or shoot me
an email at the podcast reviewer
at gmail.com.

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So I think this is good. I think
we need more podcas like this,
you know. And, you know,

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create your own directory, strap
that onto indiepotted.org. You
know, I definitely feel that we
need

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more pathfinders who can show
the way for different
communities. You know, and it
would be great if you

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can make a podcast, which is
really a jumping off point. I
try to do that obviously a lot
with the

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daily source code. All right.
That's it for me for today.
Patricia's going away to

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visit her sister for a couple of
days tomorrow. So Nick and Roy
are going to pick her up. Now
the

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the 182 RG is a momentarily
entirely dismantled. It's
getting a black edition engine
put in

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new interior and oh yes, that
one empty spot on the dashboard,
Patricia wants me to put a clock

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in it so she can see what time
it is. Back seat. That's so
wrong. So she's they're taking

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their picking up in her mooney,
which is kind of like the
Porsche. I would say a single
engine

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four seaters. It's very fast.
And then I'm taking Christina
and her new boyfriend, Owen. Oh
yes.

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Taking them to a gig in London
Friday evening and that is panic
at the disco and two other

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bands that forget their names.
And since Owen lives an hour and
a half train ride from Gilford,

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he'll be staying over. Oh yes,
separate bedrooms, of course. It
was so cute. I overheard
Christina

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talking to Patricia yesterday
and they were talking about
Owen. And she said, isn't he's
an acute mom?

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Look, he's like really tall and
lanky and gauky, just like
daddy. That's like home.

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Of course, I don't have the four
lip piercings and the nipple
rings. But otherwise,

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he's a sweet kid. Hey, I'll talk
to you guys tomorrow. Thanks for
staying subscribed.

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Thanks for listening, daily
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