WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:06.000 Delta's Yeracharli 337, the Apple tastes good. 00:06.000 --> 00:11.000 $16 billion worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 00:11.000 --> 00:14.000 In the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:14.000 --> 00:20.000 I like to think I'm flying into this genre. 00:20.000 --> 00:23.000 On casting, it's Adam Curry. 00:23.000 --> 00:27.000 One day while I was working hard at doing nothing, 00:27.000 --> 00:31.000 I was sitting around for hours. 00:31.000 --> 05:37.720 [ Music ] 05:37.720 --> 05:53.440 It's not quite a hot shape yet, but it's coming, Mark says hi, and I want super high. 05:54.440 --> 05:56.440 Oh, it's... 06:01.440 --> 06:02.440 Thank you. 06:03.440 --> 06:05.440 You're really super. 06:05.440 --> 06:10.440 So this is a guy who I met yesterday at Sirius Adly Radio when I was in New York. 06:10.440 --> 06:11.440 Well, I'm still in New York, actually. 06:11.440 --> 06:14.440 Early Thursday morning on my way home tonight. 06:14.440 --> 06:18.440 I don't know why, for some reason I booked a flight at like 9.25 this evening. 06:18.440 --> 06:21.440 So I've got, you know, I've got to figure out stuff to do today. 06:21.440 --> 06:25.440 Yesterday, last night, last evening. 06:25.440 --> 06:30.440 I was up at Sirius, and I was planning on doing some recording. 06:30.440 --> 06:36.440 And for a number of reasons that didn't work out, but I was assigned a board-up as we call it, a board operator. 06:36.440 --> 06:40.440 Because it was going to be done in a real studio, quite a treat for me. 06:40.440 --> 06:44.440 And guys name Mark, Mark Seaman. 06:44.440 --> 06:45.440 Yeah, I know. 06:45.440 --> 06:50.440 But we don't laugh about names here on the Charlie now, do we? 06:51.440 --> 06:55.440 And when we were talking, he's just learning a little bit about podcasting. 06:55.440 --> 06:58.440 He started there as an intern, and he's a musician. 06:58.440 --> 07:00.440 And so Ron and I were talking to him. 07:00.440 --> 07:02.440 And he says, well, yeah, he's my CD. 07:02.440 --> 07:05.440 It's called the EP of the Century, Mark says high. 07:05.440 --> 07:06.440 Of course. 07:06.440 --> 07:09.440 So you probably figured out the title that song was Super Powers. 07:09.440 --> 07:13.440 And, you know, I told him about the podcast of music network. 07:13.440 --> 07:15.440 And I guess he's going to go check it out. 07:15.440 --> 07:18.440 But listen to the CD before starting the show. 07:18.440 --> 07:19.440 I kind of let Doug this song. 07:19.440 --> 07:22.440 So I thought I'd share that with you, even though it was damn long. 07:22.440 --> 07:25.440 Like five minutes and 46 seconds. 07:25.440 --> 07:27.440 Yes. 07:27.440 --> 07:31.440 Our trips in New York is just about over. 07:31.440 --> 07:35.440 As I said today, I'll just be visiting a couple more people on my way out of town. 07:35.440 --> 07:37.440 I'm so incredibly tired. 07:37.440 --> 07:38.440 You have no idea. 07:38.440 --> 07:41.440 You may not give a damn, and you probably don't want to hear that in the morning, 07:41.440 --> 07:43.440 because you may be tired too. 07:43.440 --> 07:46.440 But man, I'm just so incredibly beat. 07:47.440 --> 07:49.440 It's been six hours of night. 07:49.440 --> 07:51.440 You know, I've been doing the show. 07:51.440 --> 07:54.440 And PW has been putting it together. 07:54.440 --> 07:56.440 And editing it all in the evening. 07:56.440 --> 08:01.440 And it's just been quite a lot along with all the discussions we've had with 08:01.440 --> 08:06.440 marketing companies, agencies, and many of them old friends. 08:06.440 --> 08:08.440 So good to see them in this new context. 08:08.440 --> 08:09.440 It's just good. 08:09.440 --> 08:11.440 This is, you know, once a quarter, that's what we do. 08:11.440 --> 08:15.440 We're going to write on down in town and go see if we can sell some 08:15.440 --> 08:18.440 quarterback. 08:18.440 --> 08:22.440 So here's an interesting story I heard in the, in the hallways, it's serious, 08:22.440 --> 08:25.440 some water cooler talk. 08:25.440 --> 08:29.440 There was a big meeting recently. 08:29.440 --> 08:34.440 And it's funny because I know what happened, or I knew what was, 08:34.440 --> 08:36.440 I knew something was happening because we got a request. 08:36.440 --> 08:40.440 PW Fenton, and usually when the request goes straight to PW, 08:40.440 --> 08:44.440 who produces all the serious satellite radio shows. 08:45.440 --> 08:48.440 Usually when they go to him directly, it's an end around. 08:48.440 --> 08:50.440 You know, they don't want me to know something about what they're asking. 08:50.440 --> 08:54.440 And so they had asked for a piece of, and they gave out some time code or 08:54.440 --> 08:55.440 something. 08:55.440 --> 08:58.440 Anyway, PW Fenton, I did deduce that it was, it was clearly 08:58.440 --> 08:59.440 Madge Weinstein. 08:59.440 --> 09:02.440 And so he, of course, emailed me and said, you know, 09:02.440 --> 09:04.440 something's up, you know, they want to have this piece. 09:04.440 --> 09:07.440 And I, you know, say that to them and tell them if there's anything 09:07.440 --> 09:09.440 we can help them with, give me a call. 09:09.440 --> 09:11.440 So it didn't hear anything about it. 09:11.440 --> 09:13.440 And that was two or three weeks ago. 09:13.440 --> 09:16.440 And actually, they specifically wanted a piece of Madge, 09:16.440 --> 09:17.440 one of her driving podcasts. 09:17.440 --> 09:20.440 You know, she's always very funny when she's driving. 09:20.440 --> 09:24.440 And during this big meeting just recently, a few days ago, 09:24.440 --> 09:28.440 maybe last week, which was this big corporate, you know, 09:28.440 --> 09:30.440 it's like what companies do. 09:30.440 --> 09:33.440 But it was really the top echelon of the people who are programming 09:33.440 --> 09:35.440 these 120 satellite radio channels. 09:35.440 --> 09:40.440 And the CFO, the chief financial officer of serious, 09:41.440 --> 09:43.440 David Freer, I think it is. 09:45.440 --> 09:48.440 Yeah, as, I guess everyone does a little, you know, 09:48.440 --> 09:50.440 their vision of the company, et cetera. 09:50.440 --> 09:52.440 So the CFO, very interesting. 09:52.440 --> 09:54.440 The first of all, great that this guy is listening to stuff. 09:54.440 --> 09:57.440 That's so incredibly appreciated. 09:57.440 --> 10:00.440 He got up and played this piece of Madge, 10:00.440 --> 10:02.440 which, uh, PWPs can get me the clip. 10:02.440 --> 10:05.440 I couldn't find it that quickly. 10:05.440 --> 10:07.440 Before I just fall down from tiredness. 10:08.440 --> 10:11.440 And he played this clip, and he just was raving about it. 10:11.440 --> 10:13.440 This is exactly what we should be sounding like. 10:13.440 --> 10:15.440 This is different. This is irreverent. 10:15.440 --> 10:17.440 This is, you know, this is the future, 10:17.440 --> 10:19.440 which, of course, is fantastic. 10:19.440 --> 10:21.440 And like we didn't know that. 10:21.440 --> 10:23.440 Like we don't know that it's not the children, 10:23.440 --> 10:25.440 but Madge who's really our future. 10:27.440 --> 10:29.440 But the funny thing was, 10:29.440 --> 10:32.440 that throughout this entire, um, 10:32.440 --> 10:36.440 a praising monologue of Madge Weinstein and East radio, 10:36.440 --> 10:40.440 he was referring to her as this Jewish woman from Chicago. 10:40.440 --> 10:44.440 And, um, I think most people, 10:44.440 --> 10:48.440 know Madge long enough to know exactly what she is and what she stands for. 10:48.440 --> 10:52.440 And it was just a hilarious, uh, hilarious moment. 10:52.440 --> 10:55.440 And I don't know if Mr. Frier knows yet, 10:55.440 --> 10:57.440 but we're happy that you love Madge. 10:57.440 --> 11:00.440 And we all, we all love Madge and what she does. 11:00.440 --> 11:02.440 So I've got a couple things, uh, 11:02.440 --> 11:04.440 lined up for you. 11:04.440 --> 11:07.440 There's actually waiting for the pod safe music network to come back online, 11:07.440 --> 11:09.440 because, you know, we're getting all that sales stuff and everything, 11:09.440 --> 11:10.440 and they're moving servers. 11:10.440 --> 11:11.440 Let me just check for a second. 11:11.440 --> 11:12.440 Hold on. 11:12.440 --> 11:14.440 Let me see if it's back up. 11:14.440 --> 11:15.440 Damn, it's not. 11:15.440 --> 11:19.440 And all of a sudden I realize what an incredibly important resource this is, 11:19.440 --> 11:20.440 because I'm getting ready to prep my show. 11:20.440 --> 11:23.440 Usually, you know, I go through and check what's new on the homepage, 11:23.440 --> 11:24.440 and look at new submissions. 11:24.440 --> 11:27.440 And maybe I'll go back through my playlist and pull something that I've played it, 11:27.440 --> 11:29.440 you know, a few episodes ago. 11:29.440 --> 11:31.440 And, uh, it's, you know, 11:31.440 --> 11:33.440 I'm sorry, we'll be back removing servers and like, 11:33.440 --> 11:36.440 oh, man, that sucks. 11:36.440 --> 11:41.440 Ah, that and the fact that I don't have any sense of sale is, 11:41.440 --> 11:45.440 uh, yeah, without a doubt, that it's bad. 11:45.440 --> 11:46.440 It's really bad. 11:46.440 --> 11:49.440 If anything going home means seeing my girls, 11:49.440 --> 11:52.440 it also means seeing that lovely sense of sale machine. 11:53.440 --> 11:59.440 Well, I have some news report first of all about Trinity. 11:59.440 --> 12:04.440 There is a, uh, a fund, uh, meaning a fund of, uh, 12:04.440 --> 12:07.440 investment money that is called Indo-Street. 12:07.440 --> 12:12.440 Well, I have some news report first of all about Trinity. 12:12.440 --> 12:17.440 There is a, uh, a fund, uh, meaning a fund of, uh, 12:17.440 --> 12:19.440 investment money, that is, uh, 12:19.440 --> 12:26.960 a fund of investment money that is investing specifically in green technologies amongst 12:26.960 --> 12:34.240 which will be biodiesel and to the folks have been listening to the show and they're very 12:34.240 --> 12:41.360 interested in sponsoring our little talk about biodiesel and Trinity and of course 12:41.360 --> 12:48.320 we want to do something kind of unique. So the sponsorship will go primarily towards pimping out 12:48.320 --> 12:53.360 Trinity and of course we're going to turn that into a video podcast. I imagine paint my ride this 12:53.360 --> 13:00.080 will be paint my biodiesel beast or something better than I'll come up with and I'm so excited 13:00.080 --> 13:04.000 about this. You know I've got to figure out some slogan to put on the side what colors are going to 13:04.000 --> 13:09.280 be. We're going to chop the roof. We're going to make it into part convertible but I mean that is 13:09.280 --> 13:13.760 you know that's that's your money and put to good use. I'm telling you I cannot wait 13:13.760 --> 13:18.320 Patricia was excited. She's like wow we'll have like the servo so it could pop up and down like 13:18.320 --> 13:22.640 a hip hop mobile. I say yeah baby you better believe it and we have some little spin and rims so 13:23.680 --> 13:29.680 just wanted to share that with you and as I said we'll we'll be podcasting that. Probably a video podcast. 13:30.400 --> 13:37.040 Okay a couple of emails that have come in regarding at the biodiesel industry and Trinity. Let's see 13:37.600 --> 13:43.680 Halifax and this comes to us from Steve Din. After two years of running biodiesel in a fleet of 13:43.680 --> 13:51.600 buses check this out something is starting to smell fishy in the city of Halifax. The city quit using 13:51.600 --> 13:58.160 a unique B20 which is the same stuff Willie Nelson is selling 20% biodiesel 80% petrodiesel. 13:59.200 --> 14:03.600 So they quit using this unique blend of fish oil based biodiesel in its fleet of municipal 14:03.680 --> 14:09.440 buses this past December after encountering some operational difficulties. What could those be you think? 14:10.560 --> 14:20.000 Well indeed it was smelling in addition according to the uh to the herald the municipality 14:20.000 --> 14:25.360 took up the issue with the supplier Wilson fuel cocks which denied a problem with a fuel existed. 14:25.360 --> 14:30.880 Really was they say that they had problems with the lines clogging up so they've halted the use of it. 14:31.040 --> 14:34.800 I don't know that this is fish oil though. I think that's that may be something all together 14:35.600 --> 14:40.080 different than now just the yeah the normal french fries stuff that we're looking at. 14:40.880 --> 14:47.520 Article in uh wasn't fortune magazine online. I'll make sure I put that put that link in the show notes. 14:47.520 --> 14:56.160 The article mentions 80% of all new vehicles are able to use bio fuels. Of course in that case 14:56.240 --> 15:02.560 we're talking about mostly ethanol mixtures for petrol engines which will have the yellow fuel cap by the way. 15:03.360 --> 15:09.120 And of course it also mentions good old Willie Nelson's bio wheelie. Dude we got to talk to him. 15:10.000 --> 15:17.200 He'd be perfect for a segment on uh on Trinity. Christian Euben uh in in behind excuse me 15:17.200 --> 15:20.800 Adam up to now Germany was known as a biodiesel paradise. 15:21.440 --> 15:26.960 Biodiesel costs about a euro per liter which is pretty cheap compared with regular gas. Yeah that's about half the price. 15:27.520 --> 15:32.880 They're nearly 2,000 gas stations providing drivers with green diesel in a growing market. But yesterday 15:32.880 --> 15:37.920 I was really shocked when I heard that the German minister of finance is planning a biodiesel tax. 15:39.120 --> 15:45.040 The government's going to collect 10 euro since per liter of biodiesel and an even 15% on vegetable oil. 15:45.680 --> 15:53.200 As result of this announcement, German biodiesel stocks plunged harshly more than 10% 15:53.200 --> 16:00.320 I guess more than 10% that is pretty bad. Okay well it's bound to happen. I don't really mind 16:00.320 --> 16:06.000 and I'm not quite sure how it works in Germany but in uh in many countries you know your roads 16:06.000 --> 16:11.840 or you know the the tax in the fuel actually goes or should be going towards making the roads better 16:12.480 --> 16:18.480 and maintenance and upkeep so and it's so it's what it's like 15% yeah that's not too bad. 16:18.480 --> 16:23.920 You look at a country like the Netherlands where the tax is almost 50% on the fuel. In fact 16:23.920 --> 16:27.120 famously one minister said excuse me I have a super coffee here. 16:28.960 --> 16:35.680 One minister famously said that he was going to add 25 cents onto the uh onto the price of a 16:35.680 --> 16:41.280 liter of fuel but we'd be getting it back in two years time or some time period similar to that 16:42.080 --> 16:47.120 he never gave it back. They still joke about that in the Netherlands. Staying in Europe 16:47.120 --> 16:51.760 Paul Frone says hey Adam would really enjoy the podcast this is to regularly read this article. 16:51.760 --> 16:57.200 Oh yeah this is about Brussels. Brussels where the uh European Union where the European 16:57.200 --> 17:03.840 Commission has its part-time seat is really starting to push biodiesel. This is all good news. 17:05.680 --> 17:10.480 Colin Sloman adamant in the listener for over a year and joyed I've worked in the energy industry 17:10.880 --> 17:14.480 for more than 20 years and find your biodiesel Trinity segment fascinating. 17:14.480 --> 17:17.840 But you might be interested in the following article and of course he points to the 17:17.840 --> 17:23.600 fortune article as well but then as a little piece down below a British petroleum to fund 17:23.600 --> 17:28.240 Indian project to produce biodiesel in New Delhi where this petroleum is an ounce of 17:28.240 --> 17:36.720 a fund a 9.4 million dollar project in the energy and resource institute in Andra Pradesh to produce 17:36.720 --> 17:43.520 biodiesel from geotrophic curcus which is a non-edible oil bearing crop. 17:45.520 --> 17:50.880 This is great. Diesel engines rule man you can really just throw anything into them that you want. 17:50.880 --> 17:52.960 Oh hold on we got an audio feedback check this out. 17:52.960 --> 17:58.320 Hey Adam this is Ben G.C. over in Whitton Hills California. I got my road in track today 17:58.320 --> 18:03.520 on March if you want page 102 it turns out that while you can't really poop in a 18:04.160 --> 18:10.240 diesel tank yet you sure can't pee in it and this article called the diesel conundrum 18:10.240 --> 18:16.640 there's a section here called piss on it and I quote urea an ammonia-based compound 18:16.640 --> 18:22.320 one source of which is mammal urine is becoming controversial in diesel emissions control 18:22.880 --> 18:29.600 also known as SCR selective catalytic reduction urea injection into the exhaust for most 18:29.680 --> 18:35.840 chemical reduction of N.O.X. European automakers are interested in SCR as a means of meeting 18:35.840 --> 18:42.480 there and our increasingly stringent N.O.X regulations. So it looks like maybe you'll be able to 18:42.480 --> 18:48.320 pin you in the Trinity's tanks and even help the environment while you're doing it. But you like to know 18:48.320 --> 18:54.640 and here's my plug my son's got a great podcast for teenage gamers it's called game snafu 18:55.120 --> 19:02.080 available on iTunes and at his website two cool dudes dot com k-o-o cool dudes dot com 19:02.640 --> 19:07.440 and me every now and then they let me play various body parts of dust and often on 19:07.440 --> 19:13.200 Pacific Coast highway okay I'm not quite sure what that means but it sounds pretty frightening 19:14.560 --> 19:20.240 alright excellent so there is so much more to learn about biofuel bio diesel as we continue our 19:20.240 --> 19:26.320 quest to saving the planet that's right save the world and win great prizes 19:50.320 --> 19:57.040 and how to's if you have watched the video of podcasts or conference 2006 in Chapel Hill from the 19:57.040 --> 20:03.440 Mac Pro podcast you can see me there in the interview yes during that time I was a learner 20:03.440 --> 20:09.760 I'm willing to learn how to do podcasts and now an official member of Fortune Network family and 20:09.760 --> 20:16.640 in a podcast soon we will be talking about tips tricks and how to's about traditional Indian 20:16.640 --> 20:23.040 cookery talking about tips I would like to share some facts about curry in Indian food curry 20:23.040 --> 20:32.320 as I was derived from a Tamil word spelled as k-a-r-i and tamal is one of the salt Indian language 20:32.320 --> 20:40.000 one of the 26 languages spoken in India and of course tamal is my mother tongue and I'm from 20:40.000 --> 20:47.360 Tamil Nadu so curry means sauce it refers to various kind of dishes which include vegetables, 20:47.360 --> 20:55.600 meats, potato, etc usually pad with right and there is another one called masala or curry masala so 20:55.600 --> 21:03.680 masala has as we've made the spices it's a thick pastey sauce it's a combination of spices butter 21:03.840 --> 21:10.320 coconut milk and different kinds of spices and there is a leaf called curry leaves which 21:10.320 --> 21:16.720 it is used in the Indian cookery in South Indian cookery it is a whole ship it's about an inch 21:16.720 --> 21:23.840 in land it's almost looks like a leaf from a citrus tree it is fried and cooked with the dish 21:23.840 --> 21:32.160 that's all I have to say about in a tip about curry in this small comment and once again thank you 21:32.240 --> 21:37.840 for listening to our show and thank you for having me in your show thank you very much Adam 21:37.840 --> 21:43.120 for your inspiration you're giving us and thank you very much for your wonderful week wonderful work 21:43.120 --> 21:52.800 you're doing for us thank you and you all have a great day bye go what's that 21:53.440 --> 21:59.680 okay had a little tail there on the MP3 sorry about the the the left channel right channel thing 22:00.000 --> 22:06.000 let me just cast blushers pretty cool you could you could just mono the signal but I couldn't find 22:06.000 --> 22:12.240 it that quick you can do it on the fly snow or back to stereo I don't like curry not to be honest 22:12.240 --> 22:16.480 with you whenever I go out if someone takes me out to an Indian restaurant they have to order 22:16.480 --> 22:21.920 for me not to specify no please you know whatever it gets something I'll eat it but no what is it 22:21.920 --> 22:31.360 coriander is that what oh man I just just don't like that at all let me see still to come I 22:31.360 --> 22:36.400 think we can do a metro sexual moment got another potting music song one that I pulled in from 22:36.400 --> 22:43.920 the archives and we'll keep it relatively short since I'm tired I already told you that 22:45.440 --> 22:50.960 and then tomorrow morning when I get back to London I get in what I get a nine o'clock or something 22:50.960 --> 22:56.480 like that so I'll probably get in sleep for an hour or two and then I'll do the show maybe a 22:56.480 --> 23:00.240 little bit later a little bit later than usual and I hope that's something to talk about hope 23:00.240 --> 23:04.240 something goes on today something I mean what am I going to do for all these hours in New York 23:06.240 --> 23:13.920 if you're checking this out on star serious 103 before warned very soon I think within a 23:13.920 --> 23:21.120 week or two we'll be moving to channel 102 they're adding another another channel to the 23:21.120 --> 23:27.120 serious lineup which is what is it called the blue collar comedy channel yeah the blue collar comedy 23:27.120 --> 23:35.120 channel so that will take over channel 103 and we're moving up so you'll have Howard Stern 23:35.120 --> 23:42.640 a channel 100 then you have his second channel which during the day I believe repeats the show 23:42.640 --> 23:48.400 and then they have Howard news or whatever that's our 101 and then conveniently located right next to 23:48.400 --> 23:53.680 that will be 102 and for those of you who are listening to us on serious you can check us out 23:53.680 --> 24:01.360 every day from 6 to 10 p.m. Eastern time 37 Pacific time Pacific Coast Hellway is next then it's 24:01.360 --> 24:10.960 a Madge Weinstein with East Ries Ries Ries Ries Ries Ries Ries Radyope and then Dawn and Drew 24:11.120 --> 24:15.760 and I don't have a clue at all is it good more daily is that on tonight and then I don't know 24:15.760 --> 24:23.040 if it is DVD weekly day or not and we're going to start fitting more more podcasts more new podcasts 24:23.040 --> 24:29.200 into the pod show lineup so stay tuned for that and I will talk to all of you on the satellite tomorrow 24:29.200 --> 24:37.840 for the Friday edition and meanwhile here on the show quick note about advertising since we are 24:37.920 --> 24:42.080 on our Madison Avenue trip Kevin Mason says Adam I'm the owner of an Amazon parrot 24:43.120 --> 24:48.720 well to keep the bird from getting bored we play the radio yes radio is for the birds 24:49.520 --> 24:53.840 the issue comes when I walk into the room the radio station always seems to be playing their 24:53.840 --> 24:58.080 promo toop in their own horn about how they only play two minutes of commercials every hour 24:58.800 --> 25:03.440 if that's so why am I always hearing the same promo my parrot is less repetitive 25:04.400 --> 25:08.800 we're thinking about finding some way to play podcasts for the bird perhaps some big mic 25:08.800 --> 25:13.520 because she apparently likes big mic my point is that regardless of the earthling spots podcasting 25:13.520 --> 25:18.480 is still nicer to listen to let's do the math radio station two minutes of ads per hour plus 25:18.480 --> 25:22.240 bragging about the fact they only have two minutes of an hour of ads is eight minutes 25:23.600 --> 25:28.640 delta share charlie thirty seconds of ads per hour plus burps is one minute one minute per hour 25:29.440 --> 25:33.040 so in other words after download eight delta share charlie to hit the same amount of ads 25:33.040 --> 25:37.680 that I do in one hour radio well as we you know as I've kind of discovered yesterday the most 25:37.680 --> 25:41.520 important thing is the repetitiveness of it that that's really it's starting to bug me too 25:42.240 --> 25:47.840 I don't mind the earthling commercial although you know the the call is going out and 25:47.840 --> 25:54.400 and we have a brainstorming session with earthling next week about this you know this whole idea 25:54.400 --> 26:00.640 of how do we get user generated advertising into podcast so be prepared is your call to action 26:02.640 --> 26:07.040 but the repetitive nature of it that does I must say that does kill me as I said yesterday 26:07.040 --> 26:12.320 it would be like playing the same promo over and over on the show or the same song over and over 26:12.320 --> 26:17.520 because you know we don't just happen to tune in sometime during those you know that that 26:17.520 --> 26:21.440 eight minutes an hour in fact we're actually zapping away during that eight minutes an hour 26:22.400 --> 26:26.720 whatever you do don't don't don't don't don't zap away right now please just stay right there you 26:26.720 --> 26:32.160 believe anything is possible stop fast forwarding don't do that plank we believe in an 26:32.160 --> 26:37.440 internet that's safe from virus hidden scammers we're earthling we believe your personal 26:37.440 --> 26:42.720 information should be just that personal and we believe your internet should be a friend 26:42.720 --> 26:49.280 not a faux we're earthling make this smart choice visit earthlink.net and discover what our 26:49.280 --> 26:57.920 internet experts can do for you earthlink we revolve around you right to yesterday at the 26:57.920 --> 27:05.280 end of the show I played a promo from the Frank Whitt podcast and at the end of the promo there was 27:07.040 --> 27:11.600 there was a line that was it's his funniest cancer I think was the name it's so it's a promo 27:11.600 --> 27:19.360 about the show and the tagline was funniest cancer and I just end this whole thing about about 27:21.200 --> 27:27.600 someone in the pod show family who had been very close to a cancer death and it of course was 27:27.600 --> 27:33.600 completely the wrong thing to play now I did preface at the beginning of the show that anything 27:33.600 --> 27:40.000 could happen because I was just pulling stuff randomly out of my Gmail account and so when I heard this 27:40.080 --> 27:45.520 it just it totally freaked me out and I was you know mostly pissed at myself for not having 27:46.160 --> 27:50.160 checked out what I was going to play so yeah sometimes it worked sometimes it doesn't this was 27:50.160 --> 27:58.000 definitely not a good example of how surprise works well in in in this particular podcast 28:00.160 --> 28:04.160 of course we've done that before and it's turned out differently and my reaction was really 28:04.320 --> 28:11.520 came from the gut and but it wasn't really meant as a personal attack on on the Frank Whitt podcast 28:12.640 --> 28:19.360 and there's all kinds of conversation going on at curry dot com all kinds of comments and of 28:19.360 --> 28:26.800 course now it's all my fault but I don't I really don't see it that way it what it what it taught 28:26.800 --> 28:31.840 me first of all is I can't do that you know that's just way too risky but I just want you to know 28:31.920 --> 28:38.320 that well actually Frank Whitt responded to this so I'll just play it's kind of long so 28:38.320 --> 28:45.360 play a piece of what he said okay so this fucking sucks this isn't like a real show or anything 28:45.360 --> 28:54.880 I just had to put this out because I feel a fallout coming basically we did a promo or Julia 28:54.960 --> 29:03.200 did a promo for us and I retweaked it a little bit and added an old quote of Robbie at the end saying 29:03.200 --> 29:11.200 it's fun like cancer and I'd shot that promo off to a bunch of people including Adam Curry 29:11.200 --> 29:20.480 who I no longer listen to I don't listen to any of the pod show podcast now this is so funny 29:20.560 --> 29:24.960 I don't listen I don't listen get damn it but I sent him a promo and then I just kind of check 29:24.960 --> 29:32.720 to see if he played it I mainly stick with the media podcast as I've told you guys before and 29:35.840 --> 29:45.760 so I checked out his show tonight for him getting ready to go to bed and basically 29:46.160 --> 29:54.720 to see if he'd played he was going to play the promo and as I listened I started to grow 29:54.720 --> 30:03.680 and increasingly nervous because he was talking about so their podcast or match Weinstein who I'd 30:03.680 --> 30:10.480 I'd also listen to a long time ago it had an in a long time was not her show either and 30:10.720 --> 30:20.320 basically her partner had passed away I guess of cancer lymphoma I went and researched this 30:20.320 --> 30:28.240 afterwards because I started to feel so shitty because he played our promo and that cancer bit 30:28.240 --> 30:35.760 comes on at the end and you know he just kind of gets upset and processes you know bad stupid promo 30:35.760 --> 30:42.320 on his show notes and it's really fucking lame that I mean that's a bad coincidence like I said 30:42.320 --> 30:48.320 on the blog post I'm a hypo contract I have to make fun of these things I've watched several 30:48.320 --> 30:57.200 people in my life dive horrible cancer I mean horrible bad and it's awful but you know you got 30:57.200 --> 31:04.000 a laugh at the shit because it's going to get one for of us I mean there's no escaping it it's it's 31:04.080 --> 31:10.240 I mean they don't you know there's no cure for it it's so he basically goes on you know to say 31:10.240 --> 31:16.320 that this is about laughing about horrible things and I'm all for that humor is a great great 31:16.320 --> 31:22.880 of what humor is a great way to to deal with grief and with pain etc but this is just more 31:22.880 --> 31:26.480 a lesson about well we've already gone through my lesson I learned that I you know I should not 31:26.480 --> 31:31.760 be doing stuff and just playing without having previewed it but also it's about context if you 31:31.760 --> 31:38.880 know your own show and you and you create a promo I'm not you heard your show I mean I stop listening 31:38.880 --> 31:46.400 to your show I only stood if see if you play bits when I talk about you when you know your 31:46.400 --> 31:50.800 own show it's and you put a promo together you really have to think for a couple seconds is this 31:50.800 --> 31:57.840 within the context of what this promo is will will people understand all the all the little bits 31:57.920 --> 32:03.520 and quotes in the context within the which they're said and listen to your promo again I don't 32:03.520 --> 32:08.960 think so and of course at the end you know if a part of your show is to make fun of if you are 32:08.960 --> 32:12.720 you know I didn't know you were hyper-contract I couldn't tell that from the promo I didn't know that 32:12.720 --> 32:18.880 you know that this is your way perhaps of dealing with with the with the pains of of living 32:18.880 --> 32:23.280 with someone or yourself with with a horrible disease you know so there's no way for me there 32:23.280 --> 32:31.200 was no context for me to know that so of course it it all worked out horribly in the show 32:32.400 --> 32:37.440 but if you're making a promo you really need to pay attention to that because if I had previewed 32:37.440 --> 32:41.680 the promo I wouldn't have played it and regardless of what I was going to talk about on the show 32:41.680 --> 32:47.760 I wouldn't have played it because you know at this time in my life I just don't find that funny 32:48.320 --> 32:54.480 not in that context now if the if your show deals with stuff like that and you make a joke out of 32:55.120 --> 33:02.480 out of things like cancer you know as as and as and lots of fantastic comedy where pain can 33:02.480 --> 33:07.440 be replaced by laughter of course I'm all for it but I would say the promo definitely wouldn't have 33:07.440 --> 33:14.320 gotten played anyway just because at this point in my life it the way it was presented didn't come 33:14.400 --> 33:19.440 across is very funny to me and that's also taught me a couple other things because I definitely 33:19.440 --> 33:27.680 make jokes about all kinds of stuff that upsets me or I'm or pains me and I very often don't think 33:27.680 --> 33:35.760 about other people who are you know within earshot what their personal feelings may be so I'm just 33:35.760 --> 33:44.400 taking this as a personal lesson no personal offense meant or harm intended of course and let's all 33:44.400 --> 33:54.880 just calm down just revisiting the cartoon controversy for a moment I got an email from Michael 33:56.000 --> 34:02.640 and oh surprise I love it when this happens I love it when when when I get these kinds of emails 34:03.600 --> 34:09.120 because Michael works at pod show and he starts up by saying that's probably the only 34:09.120 --> 34:19.840 muslim at pod show damn one snuck in maybe the the real issue behind the cartoons is the 34:19.840 --> 34:26.240 current war going on between NATO and the caliphist muslims I really don't think it has anything to 34:26.240 --> 34:31.280 do with freedom of expression it's about the current war and is viewed by caliphist muslims 34:31.280 --> 34:36.160 am I pronounced that right caliphist muslims in terms of a war not a liberal idea about freedom of 34:36.160 --> 34:42.160 expression also in terms of immigration you will be surprised how much racism and xenophobia 34:42.160 --> 34:47.520 immigrants from non-white countries are subjected to how can we expect people to integrate when 34:47.520 --> 34:53.200 they are faced without right racism on a daily basis do you remember those no Irish need apply 34:53.200 --> 34:59.440 signs from earlier in the American history but then again what do I know just an anarcho muslim 34:59.600 --> 35:05.040 druid things I've learned by living amongst muslims here in abroad specifically the Netherlands 35:05.040 --> 35:12.400 one of my religious teachers was a refugee in the Netherlands in Delft so Michael thank you very much 35:12.400 --> 35:19.360 first of all um yep you know what actually I do know that a little bit funny enough when I was seven 35:19.360 --> 35:26.400 years old and we moved from the time we lived in Kensington Maryland and we moved I was just about 35:26.400 --> 35:30.960 to turn seven actually we were going to move to the Netherlands for three years this was a time when 35:30.960 --> 35:35.920 a lot of US companies were just setting up shop in the Netherlands specifically places like Texas 35:35.920 --> 35:42.320 Instruments in a couple of early high tech firms and there was quite an influx into this you know 35:42.320 --> 35:48.960 relatively old world country and of course I went to the international school of Amsterdam 35:49.520 --> 35:54.720 so didn't really integrate just like many other cultures you know there was no need to integrate 35:54.800 --> 35:58.960 up picked up with the school bus taken to where all the American and you know other uh the 35:58.960 --> 36:06.560 kids from other countries well but primarily Americans at the time um and boy was I discriminated against 36:06.560 --> 36:10.640 and and in a foreign language which I didn't understand and the only thing I would understand 36:10.640 --> 36:17.440 of these tirays that were thrown at me was you crazy American crazy American and when you're 36:17.440 --> 36:22.480 seven years old you know that sucks and then they'd write shit with you know chalk on uh on the side 36:22.560 --> 36:28.160 walk with a big arrow pointing towards our house now granted you know uh when someone writes fish poop 36:28.800 --> 36:33.760 in a foreign language with an arrow to your house you know it ain't all that bad but at the time you 36:33.760 --> 36:38.000 know I was that was pretty traumatizing I couldn't get a fucking break from anyone in the neighborhood 36:38.000 --> 36:44.480 and there was a different culture and they had um pieces of PVC tubing that they'd roll up newspaper 36:45.280 --> 36:50.480 newspapers into darts and then they'd shoot them at you as you were driving by or or riding by in your 36:50.560 --> 36:55.440 bike and you know and of course had the wrong hair the wrong pants you know everything was wrong 36:55.440 --> 37:01.600 so I do know what that feels like um because discrimination I think feels the same 37:01.600 --> 37:09.280 regardless of what you're being discriminated about whether it's uh race, creed, color, sex, 37:09.680 --> 37:18.240 sexual preference uh you know I think it's where you're from uh it it it feels the same and uh you 37:18.880 --> 37:26.240 I think the bottom line is yeah it sucks but you know it's uh lots of people discriminated in fact 37:26.240 --> 37:33.520 I think that uh everyone feels discriminated against at one point in their life and uh I'm sure 37:33.520 --> 37:38.400 it doesn't help I'm really sure it doesn't help but you know all I can say is maybe this is the time 37:38.400 --> 37:45.600 where I pull out the XNTV experiment again and suggest you go look at that you know look at television 37:45.680 --> 37:50.240 and and tell me that there is in the world that's a picture that's being painted for you 37:51.200 --> 37:57.600 that is just unrealistic and sometimes we get really upset when it doesn't turn out that way 37:57.600 --> 38:03.920 we don't have the white picket fence you know just just doesn't exist man just does not exist 38:04.320 --> 38:13.200 and now that I'm old I start feeling more and more like you know chill out and just ride the wheels 38:13.280 --> 38:16.240 off this mother fucker we call life 38:33.920 --> 38:38.960 well it's pretty interesting to see uh what rebel and rebellion there is against uh the 38:38.960 --> 38:45.600 Metro sexual moment I'm hearing all kinds of podcasts or doing all kinds of you know manly man type 38:45.600 --> 38:52.240 stuff and you know whatever come on you know and people actually know calling me queer and gay and 38:52.240 --> 38:58.880 light-footed and I don't know I just think it's stuff that's interesting to talk about you know 38:58.880 --> 39:04.240 I never get a chance to share any of these intimate grooming tips with any of my friends so I'm 39:04.240 --> 39:09.520 happy for those of you who do to participate and and you know what this probably a whole bunch of 39:09.520 --> 39:13.600 guys right now who just went out fuck I'm I want to fast forward this man I don't want to do with that but 39:13.600 --> 39:21.760 then of course what they missed is this from Cali hey Adam this is Cali from geek brief.tv thanks for 39:21.760 --> 39:26.880 letting everyone know that we moved to pod show and thanks so much for coming to Miami and with rescue 39:26.880 --> 39:32.320 now on the business I want to share my husband's favorite Metro sexual shaving tip when he showers 39:32.400 --> 39:37.360 he uses a product called sugar scrub you can get it just about anywhere it's a mixture of sugar and 39:37.360 --> 39:42.960 essential oils he robs it on his face when he showers to exfoliate dead skin and the oil protects 39:42.960 --> 39:48.480 his skin from the harshness of the blade he doesn't do it every day but when he does I love touching his face 39:48.480 --> 39:55.520 and it smells good too thanks again Adam thank you Cali Cali from the geek brief geek brief.tv 39:56.240 --> 39:59.920 you've got to see this video podcast what's it I think it's the most recent one number ten 39:59.920 --> 40:05.680 number eleven and all of a sudden she she starts dancing to brother love in the show is like 40:05.680 --> 40:07.920 quite a surprise and 40:11.840 --> 40:18.480 Cali you are truly an asset to podcasting and proud to have you in the pod show family 40:19.600 --> 40:23.680 Mike Travers says Adam just want to share my thoughts on the new five-bladed fusion 40:23.680 --> 40:29.280 razor from Gillette it's brilliant I don't know if it's shaved so close because of the two extra blades 40:29.360 --> 40:33.680 or if it's the vibrations but it blows the mock three away my only gripe is that the precision 40:33.680 --> 40:39.120 blade on the back of the razor cartridge is very easily clogged and doesn't want to keen come clean 40:39.120 --> 40:44.720 without a fight I've had less razor burn on my neck and less five o'clock shadow at the end of the 40:44.720 --> 40:49.600 day as far as I'm concerned the precision razor can clog all I want that's all for knock you up 40:49.600 --> 40:54.480 the good work my traverse forest science major at Penn State University well I gotta agree with you man 40:54.480 --> 40:59.760 I've used this thing now for two days in a row it's nice it really is and of course you know 40:59.760 --> 41:04.960 it has a little more you know robust feel to it they've done they've made a whole bunch of improvements 41:04.960 --> 41:10.800 and I agree that the shave is it's quite close and and it does seem to stay closer for a little bit 41:10.800 --> 41:16.640 longer and the precision yeah I don't really have a lot of nose hair to speak of anything else 41:17.440 --> 41:19.920 you know my sideburns are kind of already groomed so 41:20.080 --> 41:26.560 don't really have a lot of news for it but yeah there's a couple of things that I 41:26.560 --> 41:31.520 removed with it hey so we move on from shaving one of these days and talk about something else 41:32.560 --> 41:38.000 maybe we should talk about shaving parts of our body other than then your face 41:38.560 --> 41:45.920 because believe me women notice that stuff too they really do and curries metro sectional moment 41:46.880 --> 41:51.760 yeah okay well what are we at now we're 41 minutes okay I had two more things that I'm just 41:51.760 --> 41:58.080 gonna just gonna do tomorrow as I said positive music network is down maybe time you hear this show 41:58.080 --> 42:06.560 it's back up but plenty of reason to pull out bob gentries upside down now I've been talking in my 42:06.560 --> 42:20.400 past sleep when I'm waking well my tongue is tight I've been thinking I should leave instead 42:20.400 --> 43:17.280 [ Music ] 43:17.280 --> 43:29.920 I've been walking in my last sleep when I'm waking up well my legs are tight 43:35.920 --> 43:42.160 I've been thinking I should breathe put the window up it's a mare tonight 43:42.160 --> 45:44.560 [ Music ] 45:44.560 --> 45:48.560 until now 45:48.560 --> 45:54.560 that's it Charlie's done for today 45:54.560 --> 46:00.560 that's about gentries upside down find him it's a music dot pot show dot com the pot say music network and 46:00.560 --> 46:04.560 coming soon we'll be talking about some cool stuff that we're going to do with 46:04.560 --> 46:08.560 serious satellite radio and with the pot safe music 46:08.560 --> 46:14.560 and i'll be back tomorrow as i said i'm away home tonight flying the virgin's upper class 46:14.560 --> 46:18.560 and uh hopefully that'll give me some rest so i'll be able to get the show done in some 46:18.560 --> 46:22.560 some reasonable hour for you so looking forward to it'll be the thank god it's fried 46:22.560 --> 46:26.560 edition of the Charlie is the daily source code daily source code dot com out of 46:26.560 --> 46:30.560 mcroy dot com and i'll talk tomorrow bye bye