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Delta Sierra Charlie 347.

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Hey Craig, what's up?

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I wonder what it would be like
if Technorama was picked up by
Pod Show.

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Hmm, I wonder.

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Corporate accounts payable means
speaking just a moment.

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Corporate accounts payable means
speaking just a moment.

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And internet error occurred.

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What the fuck does that mean?

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I don't know Craig.

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It's Craig.

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Not Craig.

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Not Craig.

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It's Craig with a K.

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It's not that difficult.

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Well, at least your name is in
George Michael.

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There is nothing wrong with that
name.

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There wasn't until that no
talent asked clown started
getting arrested everywhere.

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Uh-oh, here comes Curry.

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I need to get back to work.

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I just know I had him curry's
gonna make me come in on
Saturday and do a podcast.

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And I'll do it because I'm a big
was.

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It sounds like somebody's got a
curse for the more news.

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You are not a worse and well, I
too am not a worse.

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Hello, Chuck Craig.

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Hi, it's Adam.

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How's it going?

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Uh, did you guys get the memo
about putting cover tags on your
podcast?

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Yeah, I got the memo right.

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Yeah.

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If you could do that, that would
be great.

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Oh, and I'm going to need you to
do a podcast on Saturday.

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Yeah.

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That would be great.

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Yeah.

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Uh, that was a little weird.

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Yeah, but you're still a
woodman.

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It was $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Do the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't need no sticky drinks,
man.

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I like to think I'm flying into
this jerk.

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Fantastic.

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It's Adam Curry.

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Hello, Adam.

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This is the new love of your
life, Laura Clav.

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Come and do your life from
Kansas City's Barnetasha.

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Wish you were here.

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Switching.

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Hey, the morning vanity.

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Come over half the sleep.

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[ Music ]

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You're just the pilot of the
world and the rush.

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You're just the pilot of the
world and the rush.

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This crazy life we live in is
all a part of the world.

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You're this crazy life we live
in is all a part of the world.

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Or a clap.

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No, no, no.

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Hey, hey sister, everybody.

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How you doing?

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It is Monday.

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Here at Curricanage, a beautiful
day.

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Blue skies.

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No wind.

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About four or five degrees
centigrade.

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It is just fantastic.

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And of course, I spent the
weekend here at home.

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It was really, really nice.

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But if I had a choice and I
wasn't at home,

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that doesn't mean I'd choose it
over here.

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If I wasn't San Francisco in the
other home,

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I think I would have been in
Kansas City.

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Hey, Adam.

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This is at Roberts from the
Kansas City weather podcast.

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Hey brother, I was driving home
from the Matthew evil Laura
Clapshow here in Kansas City on
Friday night.

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Actually turned on a daily
source code right after that,
which I was halfway through.

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And heard the announcement about
the show.

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And the fact that you said if
you were in the States, you
would have come and mad.

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Brother, you missed a show.

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Holy smokes.

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Now, because of his popularity,
you probably would have thought
that Matthew evil would have

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gone ahead and closed out the
show and Laura would have opened
for him.

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Well, I was not the case.

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And, you know, Matthew evil
isn't absolutely phenomenal guy
and phenomenal artist.

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But Laura, holy smokes, dude.

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You have got to wonder why some
big,

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recording label hasn't picked
her up.

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Oh, no.

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That's the quote of the night.

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We're sitting at the table
talking to Matthew evil.

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One of the girls were sitting
with leans over and says, you
know,

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she would be a perfect open for
Cheryl Crow.

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Matthew evil turns around and
says,

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No, she could close for Cheryl
Crow.

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I couldn't agree more.

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Sorry, you couldn't be there,
brother.

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I know they're going to be doing
some more stuff in Nashville.

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So if you go to Kansas, go see
him there.

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And Laura is actually originally
from Kansas City.

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And Matthew evil sounded like he
was all for coming back to town
and playing at this place.

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So if you get a chance when
they're over here or over there,
whatever,

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you got to check him out.

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In any case, have a great
weekend at him and we'll talk to
you later.

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So that came, you know, like in
the middle of the weekend.

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I was like, I really wish I
could have been there.

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But it was nice being home.

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Let me make that very, very
clear.

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Oh, man.

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I was expecting some more
pot-sake music videos to pop up,

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particularly after that show.

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It's someone must have
videotaped it.

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I guess not.

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Got a couple cool pictures.

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And it looks like that was a
great, great show.

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Congratulations to Laura and to
Matthew evil.

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And yeah, what a nice guy,
Matthew.

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You need to say something like
that.

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By the way, let me just say, I
would really be sad

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if a major record label picked
her up.

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I've been talking a couple of
pot-sake music artists

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over the past week or so.

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You know, some email
conversations.

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And, you know, many of them have
been very, very close to being
signed by a major.

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You know, only to be dropped
later on or the timing was
wrong.

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It's like, it's crap.

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You can be putting out tons of
stuff.

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You can put out a new song every
single day if you want.

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Every single day.

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Another thing that doesn't quite
work yet is being able to get
your music into a purchasing
situation,

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such as, well, such as iTunes.

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You know, it takes many weeks.

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In some cases, many, many
months.

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In fact, I think that's actually
what this price-fixing thing is
about.

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You know, they're looking at
price-fixing within the music
business for online downloads.

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I think that part of the issue
here is that independent labels
don't get the same courtesy

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that the three or four majors do
in getting their stuff up in a
timely fashion,

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which I think still is either,
you know, every Tuesday, I think
is a possibility.

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That makes sense.

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So once a week.

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But really, if you want to get
up there, I think it takes at
least six weeks if you're
independent.

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So, along with the pot-sake
music network.

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We're just waiting for our, was
it sure mail?

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Subscription.

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Lots of people sent in comments
about that, about the whitelist.

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Sorry.

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The blackberry.

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I kind of remember to do that
before the show.

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The whitelist, blacklist, stuff.

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We'll be talking a bit about
that later on today.

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Oh, regarding, uh, pot-sake
music videos.

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Hmm.

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Oh, boy.

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I keep following her show.

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She had it.

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I'm talking about Calli.

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Calli Lewis of Geek Brief TV.

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God damn it.

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Calli Lewis of Geek Brief TV.

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Our fearless leader.

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She had the sexiest t-shirt on
and it was a Geek Brief six.

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I think or something like that.

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I can't remember which one it
was.

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Now, can't be six.

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Must be more than that.

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Um, it was like nerds or hot or
something like that.

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I was like, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, baby.

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Hey, Adam.

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Calli Lewis from Geek Brief TV.

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Hmm.

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So, I'm sitting here watching
the Academy Awards.

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And all I can think about is
your first video podcast.

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Really?

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Come here on the Jeff Smith
video.

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So, so cute.

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It was adorable.

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But you.

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You're holding back on us.

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And I'm very upset at you.

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You're lips.

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Hot.

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Yes.

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sexy.

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Yes.

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But you have more to offer than
that.

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And I'm not asking you for a
glimpse behind the Terry Cloth.

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I already googled that.

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But just show us the whole face
next time.

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Okay.

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Now, on to the next thing after
my rant.

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Don't worry about the production
time.

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You're busy, man.

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Send it to me and we'll take
care of everything else for you.

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Okay.

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Ah, that's really sweet, Calli.

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That's very, very sweet.

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You know, I chose specifically
for that format.

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And I'm going to do another one
this week.

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I'm just waiting for the right
video to come along.

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Which is always the hardest
thing.

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If I'm going to do this.

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Show of.

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Podsake music videos.

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Then I want to make sure that
I've got the, you know, got
something that's good.

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You know, it can't be just a
song.

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In fact, I was looking at a
couple of music video channels
over the weekend.

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And, you know, it really does
make a difference.

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What the video, what's in the
video.

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It's a whole other piece of art,
which doesn't necessarily have
to come from the artists
themselves.

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You know, so I think there's
enough creative people that
we're going to, I'm going to try
and help connect.

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To see if we can come up with
some, you know, cool new ways to
promote pod safe music and pod
safe music artists.

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What else?

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Oh, the reason why I chose that
format of just the mouth is, you
know, I started thinking,

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you know, I travel a lot.

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And I can do my podcast
basically from wherever I am,
even if I'm on an airplane and
I've done that several times.

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In the car, wherever, you know,
it's pretty simple.

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Cast Blaster Travels now on the
lightest notebook I've ever
owned, the, the, the Shiba
Porter J.

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In a pinch, I can just pop in
the, the wireless mic and that's
it.

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You know, I'm good to go.

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But I don't always have the
hair, you know, and this is, and
we've talked about this.

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You know, it gives me great
confidence to have good hair,
but I can do it.

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I'm very, I'm very, I'm very
poor at getting my hair cropped.

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Oh, it's almost a metro sexual
moment.

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So I figured, you know, what is
the one thing I can show at all
times, which, you know, will be
worth watching.

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And I figured, that's just about
the only piece of me that can,
you know, make pieces of me the
counts.

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This podcasting thing, if you're
listening to us on serious
satellite stars, stars on the
satellite.

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This podcasting thing is really
happening.

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You know, who else has an iPod
and is listening to podcasts,
not just music.

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In fact, probably not even any
music off the iTunes music
store, but solely listening to
podcasts.

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Oh, yes, it's holiness.

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The Pope.

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And here's Father Roderick.

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Tell us all about it.

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Yeah.

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Father Roderick here from the
daily breakfast that daily
breakfast.com.

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Remember, I went to Vatican
Radio almost exactly a year ago
to tell them about podcasting.

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Well, they immediately
understood the importance of
this new medium.

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And in two days time, they had
started to podcast themselves.

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Well, check this out.

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This weekend, the Pope himself
has started to listen to
podcasts.

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When Pope Benedict XVI visited
the headquarters of Vatican
Radio last Friday for their 75th
birthday,

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the people that work over there
offered him an iPod Nano,
preloaded with podcasts and
music.

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The back was engraved through
the words to his holiness
Benedict XVI in Italian.

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Since Vatican Radio offers
podcasts in eight different
languages,

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the Pope now has the
technological capability himself
to plug in and listen to these
podcasts.

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But what is the Pope has
finished listening to the two
gigabyte of audio on his iPod
Nano?

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Since he's a pretty busy guy, he
perhaps could use some
suggestions about what to listen
to next.

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So this week at the daily
breakfast, I'm launching a
contest.

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In order to find the most
original, most interesting,

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funniest or most surprising top
three of podcast or pot-save
music for the Pope to listen to.

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The winner will receive a
special gift from Vatican City.

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So visit dailyBrexas.com and
mail me an audio clip with your
favorite political top three

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to dailyBrexas at sqpn.com.

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Let's help Pope Benedict
discover this great world of
podcasts and pot-save music.

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Yes, you're holding this, this
is podcasting.

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Oh, Roder, great idea.

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And if anyone can get podcasts
onto the Pope's iPod, you know
what's going to be?

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Father Roderick, you know, he
can do that.

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Dude, that would be so cool.
There's lots of inspirational
podcasts that we're qualified.

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That's for sure.

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But, you know, if you really
want to show the Pope what's
going on, you've got to slip a
little yeast radio on there.

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Oh, man.

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I wonder if he would declare
this podcasting, the devil's
work or not.

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Ah, very cool.

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Yeah, that's nice.

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And he's definitely keeping up
with the times.

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Our Pope.

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But of course, you know, what
I'd really like is for him to go
through the whole experience

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of subscribing to podcasts
through the iTunes Music Store

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and see if he can bless that
somehow I doubt it.

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Lots of, actually, you know,
today is going to be a mix of
feedback

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in audio form and email form.

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Dave Christensen says, Adam, on
Friday show you mentioned that
you believe your case

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against MTV was important and
could have set precedent.

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I quickly took a break from
studying to run a citation check
on your case.

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It turns out that the MTV V
curry case is referenced by a
number of courts

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and all the opinions are
positive, meaning that they do
not overrule any points in the
opinion written for your case.

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Specifically, MTV versus Curry
mentioned 34 court opinions
three of which discuss my case.

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Specifically, MTV versus Curry
is mentioned inside it in 58 law
review articles.

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Oh, then Dave says these aren't
huge numbers.

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But it isn't really bad
considering its opinion from a
district court case.

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That's right, the pellet court
case provides more presidential
weights and therefore

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are cited more often.

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See, I told you, I told you that
it was a precedent setting.

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I guess that's what you're
trying to tell me.

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Michael Barry says, Adam, I
think you're missing a big
reason why the Iraq war

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doesn't draw the same attention
or protest as the Vietnam war.

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Now, I said that this is because
the mainstream media has done
something very different

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than the Vietnam war where we
saw actual news reels.

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And there were reels that was
filmed, I think, at the time,
mostly film.

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Of dead American boys, well,
predominantly American boys, you
know, being brought home

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and on the battlefield.

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And what Michael says is the
real reason that there's not
that much attention is the lack
of a draft.

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A mix as I do not, Michael is
making them.

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I do not support a draft, but if
there ever was one, the shit
would hit the fan.

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Self-interest is one of the
biggest factors driving the
protests against the Vietnam
war.

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Ooh, I don't know about that.

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I'm not old enough to know.

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But, oh, man, can you imagine a
draft being instituted?

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Yeah, you're right.

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It definitely would stir up some
majors.

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Hey, I didn't want you here.

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Actually, you know, I hope you
win your court case and
everything goes well for you.

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I know that there's such that if
they don't understand the
meaning of the English word,
public,

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then they shouldn't be using an
English website now, should
they?

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Yeah, right.

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For example, the public part,
just because it's called public.

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It doesn't mean I'm allowed to
go there and pick flowers or
follicles again.

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I don't think they're going to
like the stand-on in court.

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And I think you'll do just fine,
I always do.

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So just this said, all folks
says on the internet.

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Just the adventures.com's going
to have to read some of my
French three dollars.

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So, bye for now, and may the win
be with you.

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So, that's right, Roger.

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Just because the park says it's
a public park does not mean
you're allowed to pick flowers.

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There are follicles around, like
goodness.

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So Roger and I are definitely
going to try and meet.

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But it's not going to be at the
Guardian Conference.

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There's something about, you
know, a little confused about
all the different words.

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You know, whereas when I talk
about a lawyer here in the UK,

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that's known as a solicitor.

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And he has some other word,
which to me sounded a lot like
parole.

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I'm not going to share what that
was, off the look of the email.

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So that was not a day that he
was free to travel.

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But we are definitely working on
the hookup.

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Lots of controversy on the
curry.com message boards.

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Comic strip blogger is all over
the place.

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And he keeps saying kind of the
same things.

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And, you know, I asked him if he
would just do me a favor

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and participate in the show and
not just ramble on the comments

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and really give me something
that I can work for.

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Comic strip.

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So it is time.

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To hear.

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Comic strip.

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From our favorite poster.

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Comic strip.

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Jeff, you're not to come.

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Comic strip.

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Okay, here we come.

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This comic strip blogger.

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I just wanted to comment about
all this stupid lawsuit

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against the poor Dutch
journalist.

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So Adam Curry.

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Stop kidding us.

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You started this whole fucking
lawsuit against the Dutch
employee

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just to get publicity for
yourself.

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I am sorry, but I am not digging
this whole

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defending my family, my
copyrighted photos, staff.

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Which people like you, with
middle life crisis,

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have such late life hobbies
where they pretend

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to fight good causes, but in
your reality.

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It is just subconscious need
from a publicity.

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And why the fuck you care at all
about

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Netherlands and about what Dutch
press rights.

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Do you have Dutch citizenship?

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For fuck's sake.

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I ask you this stuff for many,
many times.

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Many times it didn't answer.

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So, fuck you.

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That's sort of a disclaimer that
the comic strip blogger

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is in no way family's safe.

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You know, I actually worked on a
whole ran to whole

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replied to comic strip blogger.

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With Christine, a listener who
said,

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let me help you work on some
long ass rants.

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And we came up with something
that was pretty good,

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but I'm actually going to go
hold that back if you don't
mind.

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Because this Thursday is when
the judge will

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give the verdict and tell us all
what the decision is.

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And that will really answer a
lot of your questions there

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or a comic strip blogger.

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And of course, I do care.

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You know, if you look at the
Netherlands,

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look at their track record for
wealthy people

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who have been killed famous or
wealthy people

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in the last five years, several
of whom I know

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and have known personally.

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So, the protection of my child
goes above all.

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And then, secondarily, in this
comes back to the MTV vs. Curry
suit,

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I believe that this is important
for creative commons.

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And when a mainstream
publication says that the value

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of something on the internet is
nihil as in zero

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because it's out there and it's
published.

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You know, I think that that's a
travesty

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if they would get away with
that.

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And it basically breaks creative
commons.

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And so, all I want is some sort
of precedent,

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some sort of signal from the
judge that will say this is not
okay

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and we're not just going to let
you pay someone off with a fee

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and go and do it again the next
time.

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That's really what that's what
all it comes down to.

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So, any rants on that, I reserve
until hopefully Thursday show,

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hopefully I'll know before you
guys get up in the US.

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Excuse me.

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Oh, my goodness.

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Hold on, maybe I should play
this.

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Hey, happy, what's up?

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Well, the world seemed to be
better again.

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I know change is inevitable.

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And you know, I've tried hard to
stay up with the times.

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I even call the Daily Source
Code the Charlie.

21:22.000 --> 21:25.000
But Adam is up to his old tricks
again.

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Just listen to Daily Source Code
342.

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Excuse me, since I'm drinking
one right now.

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So good to be drinking one.

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The burp is back and things seem
right in the world.

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And then this happened on Daily
Source Code 344.

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Did you just burp?

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No.

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On this show, you know what
happens.

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What do you have to say?

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Did I burp?

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Yeah, what do you have to say?

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What do you have to say?

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Excuse me?

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No.

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Since I owe.

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Oh, since I owe.

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Thanks for listening.

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Oh, for the past year and a
half.

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Oh, I'm confused.

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Not even Patricia knows what to
do.

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And I'm trying to figure things
out.

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We may not even have birth,
wanker, trinity, or even...

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I got to get that.

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Hey, Roger.

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Yeah, Roger.

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You can find bedtime stories.

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My kids love at www.psml.com.

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Yeah, I know that comic-strik
blogger is a pain.

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Hey, Roger.

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Let me turn up the boom box so
you can hear the cool mash-up.

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Happy pulled from the pod safe
music network.

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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What?

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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What?

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

22:44.000 --> 22:45.000
What?

22:45.000 --> 22:47.000
You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

22:47.000 --> 22:48.000
What?

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

22:50.000 --> 22:51.000
What?

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What?

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What?

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

22:55.000 --> 22:56.000
You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

22:56.000 --> 22:57.000
What?

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What?

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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What?

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What are you talking about?

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Lucky luck.

23:03.000 --> 23:04.000
Lucky luck.

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Lucky luck.

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Lucky luck.

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You're pointing out me is
freaking me out.

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Let's go for his or on crack,
man.

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To wind that up a comic-strik
blogger, I have the US
nationality.

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I have a permanent work permit
and if I wish to use it
residency permit for the

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Netherlands have had that for
many, many years.

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I work in the United States.

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I pay federal taxes in the
United States.

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I pay local and council taxes
here in the UK.

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Yeah.

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Is there a problem with that?

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Actually, there is a problem.

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It sounds to me like you're
upset CSB that you don't have
the opportunity to go to the
United

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States, which of course is a
shame because it is rather
difficult.

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But I have to say you might need
a serious attitude adjustment if
you want the US to let you in.

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But really, I'd like to delve
into your history.

23:55.000 --> 23:59.000
I know lots of people that I
shouldn't spend any time at all
on a comic-strik blogger.

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But as you read around, I
believe that comic-strik blogger
is really Jacek Routowski.

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And you're a Nokia, a former
Nokia employee who got fired and
was so pissed off that you
started to promote

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very heavily and very
aggressively the competition,
which would be Microsoft.

24:18.000 --> 24:24.000
I'd be really bummed out if I
were listening to this story on
serious stars because you're
about to hit

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a specific host Hellway East
Radio, Donna Drew, Gilmore
Daily, DVD Weekly and CC
Chapman.

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Talk to you tomorrow.

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So we'll just continue here.

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Peter, thanks by the way for
finally sending you a printable
rundown and yelling at me.

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So now I know exactly what's
going on serious.

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So if you're really that pissed
off at Nokia, tell us about it.

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What happened?

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Why did you get fired?

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Give me some details on that.

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We could have a very interesting
conversation.

24:51.000 --> 24:55.000
The way you've carried on about
MS mobiles and have put up your
own money to, in fact,

24:55.000 --> 24:59.000
the comic-strik blogger was one
of the first people advertising
on podcasts by sponsoring

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the Donna Drew Show even before
they were at Pod Show.

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And I just want to know more
about you.

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So please feel free to send in
some more background on
yourself, CSP.

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Hey, Adam.

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It's Dan Schmidt from the
Kidcast podcasting in the
classroom show.

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And we are educational podcast
that's focused on teachers and
students and how to integrate

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podcasting into an educational
space, how to manage it, how to
be creative about how

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you integrated into the
curriculum.

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We play lots of examples.

25:34.000 --> 25:38.000
Give lots of tips and we sponsor
a contest.

25:38.000 --> 25:41.000
And this month's contest is
pretty exciting.

25:41.000 --> 25:47.000
What we're giving away an iPod
shovel, a hundred dollar gift
certificate to FTC publishing.

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And we're giving away five
copies of my book, Kidcast
podcasting in the classroom.

25:52.000 --> 25:53.000
So that's pretty cool.

25:53.000 --> 25:54.000
But here's the deal.

25:54.000 --> 25:56.000
We're focusing on podcast
dramas.

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So if you think back to the
goal-nage of radio and all the
theater of sound and theater of
the

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mind stuff, it was really
powerful stuff.

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And we want to use that medium
for learning.

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So we're challenging teachers
to, and students to create their
own podcast dramas or

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skids and share them with us.

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So they just need to write an
original skit that contains at
least two characters.

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And it needs to be educationally
appropriate.

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And they should try to teach the
listener something new,
preferably in the curriculum
within

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their storyline.

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And we're looking for things
that are short.

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Maybe three to four minutes.

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They just have to record and
edit their skit.

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Add some cool sound effects and
maybe some music.

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And then put it up on their
server as an MP3 and then just
send us the link.

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Then they can find out more
information by going to my
website at Intelligenic.com
slash

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KidCast.

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Or they can find us in the
iTunes podcast directory or in
podcast alley.

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Just look for KidCast podcasting
in the classroom.

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Thanks Adam.

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Stay creative and keep mom
learning.

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The voting is now open on slam
idle contest number nine.

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The contestants are Cynthia
French.

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I could kiss you in public.

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Like the fluency and the jacuzzi
was removed.

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Like finding your favorite part
of a really bad gift.

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A Rachel can.

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Whether you are here as a queen
or a whore.

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When you think things can't get
any worse.

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And it seems like you're coming
apart at the seams.

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Just remember that you're the
one who scheme these schemes.

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Patricia Evah.

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You know, as I do, we sing the
same tune.

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Why couldn't I stay and share
the mood?

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Seems Stuart.

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As a cell for moon rises.

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Growing taller over.

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Over.

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The song and trees that have
grown in the fields that.

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G-S-Bast.

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And I paint you new cities where
walls are clean with people are
there.

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And welcome you in.

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No, it's not like that.

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But take one step.

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It can be.

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Maybe.

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And Andrew Taylor.

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Do you still feel shy around
women?

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And don't know what to say.

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Do you get on nervous and clammy
and just wish it would go away?

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To cast your vote.

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Go to slam idol.tripoet.com.

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Hey Adam.

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Marcus Couch here.

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And I'm here to remind everyone
of a few things.

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First and foremost, the new
episode of Pod Show Music Rewind
is out.

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That's episode 23.

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And you can find the show at
podshowmusicrewind.com.

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Now this week we've got Pod Show
Music Podcast, like the Rock and
Roll geek indie cast,

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accident, hash, mad pod, and the
scenes scene.

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But in addition, we'll head over
to the UK and check in with Evan
Crawford and the reaching

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for lucidity podcast.

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We'll get jacked with Jack Elias
on the get jacked podcast from
Washington D.C.

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We also check in with Rich
Palmer and the Miami Valley
music cast.

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And I'm excited to announce our
first Japanese based podcast
into Rewind.

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What's happening in Tokyo hosted
by Tokyo Dan?

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So what did all these music
podcasts have to do to get on
Pod Show Music Rewind?

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And ultimately be heard on
serious stars?

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Well, it doesn't take special
VIP status selling your soul or

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mounds of cash.

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All you have to do is edit a
song.

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And then you click of your music
podcast that features a song
from the pod

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safe music network.

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And then email that clip to me
at podshowmusicrewind at
gmail.com.

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That's it.

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It's really just that easy.

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Thanks everyone and be sure to
check out the new episode at
podshowmusicrewind.com.

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This is Marcus Couch.

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Take care everybody.

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All right, everybody.

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I think a little monkey markers.

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It's funny.

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How people want to be on the
serious satellite.

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But it is actually, see, when
does it put on?

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It's on Tuesdays between nine
and 10 Eastern time is when the
podshow music

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rewind airs and its entirety and
it's been opened up to, as you
heard,

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anyone who has a pod save music
podcast wants to send, you know,

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just caught up a little segment
of it where you play a song.

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Send it off to Marcus.

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He'll take care of you.

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Tony Blair, the British Prime
Minister was on television.

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I think it was Friday night, I
believe.

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On this talk show called
Parkinson.

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Now Parkinson is, is really,
it's not just a talk show.

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Parkinson or Pauki.

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As you know, and here is an
institution, really.

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But, you know, to have the Prime
Minister come on and sit down
and just chat

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and his, you know, Parkinson's
format is, you know, himself,
two chairs,

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and a backdrop and an audience.

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And that's it.

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It was really nice.

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It was, you know, he came across
very personal, personal,

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and very personal as well.

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I didn't think he answered every
question, you know,

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to the best of his ability.

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But he did have a couple of
really funny stories.

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And one that I like the most.

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He was talking about after his
marriage to Shari Blair.

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And he hadn't really met, well,
he had met his father-in-law,

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her dad.

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Well, they hadn't really had any
serious conversation.

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So after the wedding, everyone
goes back to the house,

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and they're in the, I guess, the
drawing room,

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or the sitting room.

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And, you know, Tony's like,
well,

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and I'm going to really have a
chat with this guy.

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And he says, well, have a chat.

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And Tony says, sure.

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And he says, do you mind if I
light a split first?

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Oh, I think he said joint.

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And then Tony went, yeah, okay,
no problem.

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I was like, wow, that's pretty
heavy.

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That's much better than I didn't
inhale stuff.

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It was just really nice.

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I wonder what would be like if
George Bush would go on Oprah,

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something like that.

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Well, maybe not Oprah.

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I guess, I didn't, didn't just
recently do like a walk.

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I mean, I don't like the walking
tour stuff.

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I don't like the edited stuff.

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Just do a sit down, don't edit
conversation.

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You know, that would be, that
would be good.

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Let people see who you are.

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You know, if there's anything
wrong with this president

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and there's a hell of a lot
wrong.

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It's this PR, man.

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Stupid.

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It's just an idiot when it comes
to PR.

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Does everything exactly their
wrong way?

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Speaking of wanting to be on
serious satellite.

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Hey, Adam, this is Tyler Jersey,

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Todd Show, great talk with you
on Friday.

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You know, I was all psyched up
when I saw on the show notes
that

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we're going to play my comment.

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I was just about to run out to
best buy it to buy a serious
satellite receiver

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when I realized something.

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You see, there's developing case
law here at the Delhi source
code.

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Two wits, sir.

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The landmark holding in the
recent case of quasi-toli

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V. Curry stands for the
proposition that a guest of the

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Delhi source code is not
required to buy a satellite
receiver

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if their prom was played after
the satellite window expires.

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This is exactly what happened to
me.

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Of course, the remedy is for you
to let me tell people

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to check out the Jersey Todd
Show at www.jurzytodshow.com.

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There you go.

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After they're done listening to
the Chacha.

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So let's be a big man.

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Nice try.

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Or off the best buy.

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Ah, shoot dude.

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I missed it again.

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I'm sorry.

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I'll have to remember to do
better next time.

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All right.

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In this portion of the source
code,

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we're going to be talking about
a whole bunch of different
things

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that are definitely related to
podcasting, internet,

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freedom in general.

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You know, all the stuff that we
want to keep off of the
satellite.

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One other thing that this
conversation keeps going on.

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Thank you all very much for
sending in so many different
ideas about being

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blacklisted at ISPs.

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For those of you who are just
tuning into the Charlie,

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this is about large ISPs.

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And the biggest defender is
Microsoft with Hotmail and MSN,

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who will flag different types of
email is spam.

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And the whole issue is you have
to go to these intermediaries

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to have it solve.

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You know, if you go as an
individual or even as a company
and go to Hotmail

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or Microsoft and say, hey, can
you take me off your blacklist

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put me on the whitelist?

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They basically say, you go talk
to those guys.

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And those guys happen to charge
money.

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So lots of comments come in
about running my own mail
servers.

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And there's a whole bunch of
things that can be done.

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But I'm quite sure at the end of
the day,

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we've done some cost analysis.

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It's much, much cheaper to have
an intermediary do it.

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At the same time, by the way, I
have to say in that $80,000 fee,

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there's also hardware that can
really handle strong email by
itself

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has become such a science.

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You know, you have engineers who
are dedicated specifically

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to fine tuning email delivery
performance.

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Well, I guess the spam guy is
really fine tune that stuff.

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But in general, I think it's
just the bad thing.

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It's part of this, we're seeing
AT&T now saying that they want
to charge

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people who are providing
content.

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So they kind of make money on
both ends of the stick.

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And we'll talk about that in a
bit.

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Also, lots of talk about the
music industry.

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But first, this blacklist is...

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Hey Adam, it's Matt Snydgrass.

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And as you know, our company and
your company

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have been doing a lot of
business lately.

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And the communications of which
has been the email.

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But just last week, an email
that I think came from Ron

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to me that you and Greg and
Chris were copied on.

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Got blocked in our company, spam
filter through Lotus Notes,

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which troubles me because we've
since successfully been able

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to email each other.

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But just this email got put in a
possible blacklist section.

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So in a world that two
businesses are trying to conduct
business,

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this blacklist problem could
hurt business, literally.

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So I just wanted to let you know
that that problem

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and throw that onto the fire as
well.

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Take care, buddy.

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Thanks, Matt.

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God, this is me off.

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See, this is exactly what
happens.

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You have a company.

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And then you start to say any
emails.

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And Matt, of course, works for
some offshore gambling company.

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Just kidding, dude.

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I don't know if you want me to
mention who you work for.

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But I check that you guys have
four email servers.

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And it's very possible that
either one of them somehow
automatically

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flagged.

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In fact, you have two email
servers in San Francisco.

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So it could have been, which are
third and fourth in the list.

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So the first, you have a main
email server, which doesn't
appear to be in San Francisco.

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I'm sorry.

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I want to San Francisco.

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I want to San Jose.

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There you go.

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Or at least I can make that up
by the naming convention.

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So if the first two ones are
busy, then it'll fall over to
the third of the fourth one.

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And now the discouraging thing
here is that it's very possible.

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And also highly likely that your
notes installation,

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check some kind of database
somewhere periodically to see if
there's any spam,

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addresses that should be added
to it.

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And it wouldn't surprise me if
they got this from,

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like the short mail people, you
know?

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Or maybe someone else.

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I don't know.

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Gabrielle Lowe says,

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if it's so hard to get email
through hotmail without being
white listed,

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why do I receive five times as
much spam in my hotmail inbox

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than any other web mail system?

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Well Gabrielle, because this is
not about spam.

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It's being sold as an anti spam
issue, but it's not.

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And in fact, what's happening is
people, the companies that are
sending you that spam,

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in likelihood, may even be
paying to have a delivered.

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You know, this is, AOL is not
saying they're going to trap
spam.

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They're saying they're going to
charge people for it.

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That's, that's a very, that's
something very different.

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So, you know, you're only seen
as legitimate if you can come
with this huge

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water of cash.

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This is very bad.

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Believe me.

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If you ever think of starting,
you know, your own business on
the internet.

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You're going to run into this
problem and it really does suck.

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There's also a clearing house.

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Someone, a couple of people sent
me email about about a clearing
house,

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where you can basically have
them deliver your email,

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but it's very hard then to have
your, you know,

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any identifying marks of your
own company in there.

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It just sucks all wrong.

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It's bad.

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It's really bad for the
internet.

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Let's talk about AOL for a
second.

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Now, I mentioned that I haven't
done it yet, a while back,

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was it last week.

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I listened to this session, the
artist's round table at podcast
hotel.

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And I'm really sorry I wasn't
there.

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And it was just impossible for
me to make it.

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It's coming to San Francisco.

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So I do plan on attending there
because I think we have a lot

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of confusing issues.

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And what I had suggested is I
would comment on that session

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and re-record it.

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But okay, you know, that would
be like three hours long.

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So I just want to address some
issues here.

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Because now, also after, you
know, after having listened to
it,

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there were two people talking.

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One was, I think Tim is his
name.

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I'm not sure who was, who was
the representative for Iota.

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And Iota, maybe I should take a
look and see what they call
themselves

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exactly as far as I understand
it.

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They are an organization of
independent record labels.

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Let me see.

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I owed, which would be dot com.

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I hope not dot org.

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I wouldn't make any sense.

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Well, that's Iota national
international training and
consultancy.

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So maybe it is dot org.

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That's interesting.

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Welcome to Iota.

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No, that's a shoot.

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I can't even find Iota.

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Let me just punch in Iota.

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Let me see what comes up and
trust the old Google tracks and
relevance

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for me people.

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Iota on low.

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It's the independent online
distribution alliance.

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Ah, okay.

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Let me just read with their
charter is so I don't miss quote
anything.

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Iota alliance dot com.

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There you go.

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Iota is the industry leading
digital distribution company for
the global independent

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music community run by an
experienced team of digital
music experts with a passion for
independent music.

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Iota distributes thousands of
releases from independent labels
to digital music outlets around
the world.

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Okay.

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Now, they are a service
essentially.

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So they sell their service to I
presume to independent record
companies not directly to
artists.

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I'll just look into the clients
tab here.

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Let me see.

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Find labels.

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Oh, they do artists as well.

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Okay.

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So they've got.

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Oh, they've got tons of them
tons of them.

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All right.

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So as I was listening, I kept
hearing the guy from myota say
things.

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You know, like, oh, it's the
same podcasting is the same old
thing.

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It's promotion from music.

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I was a woman.

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I think Jennifer was a name who
was both a podcaster and a
musician.

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And she really wanted payment
from podcasters if they make
money.

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And if they use music in their
podcast.

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Now, this, of course, is not
what the podcast music network
does.

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And I'll just explain that
briefly because most of you
probably understand.

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The podcast music network is a
very small and very simple
license, which basically says

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any tracks and artists makes
available here on the podcast
music network can be used by
podcasters under the following
conditions.

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Well, there's actually a couple
of conditions there that have to
do with collective works, etc.

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And so there are limitations to
what you can do with it
commercially.

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But you can pretty much, you
know, just use it on your
podcast as long as you attribute
it.

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I put a link in your show notes
and report it back to the
network.

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That's really the biggest piece.

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And we're doing our best to
automate that part, actually.

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And that's pretty much it. And
this is part of our unlabel
concept.

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And the unlabel concept really
means that every independent
artist is their own company.

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Is their own record label.

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And it's, you know, the record
labels essentially have been
disintermediated out of the
equation.

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You don't need tons of money to
record something.

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You don't need tons of money to
create a video.

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And you can market very well
online, particularly working
with podcasters.

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And, you know, here, here am I,
here am I.

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I'm a old DJ, ex-Broadcaster, my
partner, Ron Bloom, together we
conceive the pod save music
network.

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He's a musician of blues guitars
from Atlanta.

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So, you know, it kind of worked
out.

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And we had some real discussion
about this, you know, about how
to make money.

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And there was also something
else interesting that came up in
the artist's roundtable.

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You almost unanimously, what I
heard was, you know, don't give
anything to the performing
rights organizations.

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That money doesn't get to us
anyway.

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Oh boy, I just have to say very
briefly.

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Oh shit, I'll say that for
tomorrow.

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So, so all of that didn't quite
sit well with me.

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And that's why I really wish I
had been there.

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And that actually asked me to
send off a, you know, a quote or
something in audio.

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And I'm glad I didn't do that
because it would have been
completely out of context for
the conversation.

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But over the weekend, maybe it
was Friday.

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A news release came out.

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I think I saw it on podcast or
new, no podcastingnews.com.

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And now everything has started
to fall into place.

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And now I'm starting to
understand what I owe to is
trying to do.

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So, I'll just read this release
to you.

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Tower records to start free
download service from music
mashups within podcasts.

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Actually, the story comes via a
tector.

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Talk about reinventing tower
records, which is in the throes
of offline troubles.

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It's trying to do something new
online.

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It plans to open a new online
service this summer called Tower
pod.

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God.

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That lets consumers create their
own podcasts using a catalog of
some 6,000 songs, which tower
will provide free.

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None of the major labels want to
be part of this, mainly because
of copyright concerns.

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But Tower has signed up
independent online distribution
alliance and indie music trade
group and distributor.

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It's in the IODA, acts in the
IODA, include hip hop group,
black allicious, and rock
flashback Peter Frampton.

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Tower intends to generate
revenue from the podcast by
selling ads on the most popular
ones.

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Any money generated will be
split up amongst a large group
that includes the user who
created the podcast, the artist,
the label, and the publishers
who created or own the music as
well as tower itself.

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So now I get it. Now I
understand why that conversation
was driving the way it was.

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The thought here is to make a
pool of music available where I
presume podcasters will be able
to go to.

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They say consumers, I guess
maybe they're going to allow
consumers to create playlists of
stuff or something like that.

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But let's just take, let's just
assume that any podcaster can go
in there and use that music.

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And then I don't know if
there's, you know, what the real
terms of the license are.

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So sometimes there's, I've heard
different things like, well,
maybe you have to talk over the
intro.

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We're basically all the stuff we
went through radio.

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But they're going to be selling
ads.

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And then that's the way that the
money is going to be, I presume
they're also going to be selling
tracks.

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I mean, that's probably why you
have tower records involved for
Tower pod.

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But I think there's a, there's a
thought mistake here.

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First of all, you're divving up
the money amongst, was it five
parties?

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That doesn't make a lot of
sense.

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Particularly, and look, you guys
probably know music better than
I do.

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But when it comes to advertising
on podcast, I think we have some
experience.

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And I don't know how many
podcasters are going to want to
take a small portion.

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At the end of the day, let's
just fast forward five years.

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Let's say that prices for
advertising on podcast have been
set and recognized.

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You're still going to be
chopping it up into more pieces
with your proposal than any
other one.

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So, you know, that feels to me
like there's just too many hands
in the pot there.

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And then, you know, and who
determines what music can be
sold there.

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And, you know, let's just say
advertisers don't want, you
know, some rock song with the
word fuck in it.

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And does that mean that song is
excluded?

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I think there's just too many
questions that have to be
addressed.

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And obviously, I wish them luck.

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No doubt about that.

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I mean, we're not competing with
any store or any store-type
format.

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The sales and the pod sake music
network are there just, you
know, as an almost, as a
service.

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You know, if you want to, you
don't have to.

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You don't have to be listed on
PMN only.

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If you want to sell, you don't
have to make anything available.

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You can take stuff off, you
know, it's very, very flexible.

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But I'm keeping a close eye on
this one.

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And I guess they'll be
announcing that all the plans
hopefully will be able to see
some of the terms.

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But it just seems like, you
know, just seems like that might
be a tough nut to crack.

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And if anyone from Iota has any
thoughts about it and would like
to spin it back, please record a
comment and let me know.

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I'm very, very curious.

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It was listening to hood hype,
hood hype.com.

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Jay Mac over the weekend.

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And boy, that blew me away there
with those guys who were
talking.

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I can't forget who we had on.

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I think it's one of his guys
from New York.

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And they were talking about
payola in the music business and
how it's still rampant.

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And there's some DJ.

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I think at Hot 97 in New York
City, who's been accused of
accepting $1,500.

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You listen to the latest hood
hype, the podcast to get all the
details.

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But he was accused of taking
$1,500 for playing a record.

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And I thought to myself, man,
just look at what's happening on
hip hop.

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And look how many stations are
playing hip hop.

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And look how many video music
channels are playing hip hop.

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And then look at the currency
that hip hop deals with.

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You know, lots and lots of
bling, lots and lots of cash.

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You know, it seems like the
artist.

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And even if you listen to how
artists and DJs, you know,

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there's a lot of respect going
on and everyone loves everybody.

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Oh, maybe because they're all on
the take.

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You know, I've never been
offered money ever, ever, ever,
ever, ever.

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In fact, when I was on the
radio, my boss Lex Harding would
tell me,

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he said, you know, if someone
from the record industry ever
wants to buy you a drink

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or takes you out for dinner, you
can go ahead and accept.

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But you must buy them the next
round or buy or pay for the
dinner.

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And you can always submit the
bill to me, which never happened

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because I was never offered that
interestingly enough.

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I think it happens probably with
with the DJs or kind of like,
you know,

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the not the morning or afternoon
drive, you know, it's probably
somewhere in hours

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that still still count for BDS,
you know, for the tracking
system.

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So it counts plays, maybe maybe
the midday person or something
like that.

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It's going to be someone who's
not a high profile, not a high
profile person

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on the station.

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But apparently it's just, it's
completely rampant.

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So, you know, the music business
is really falling apart at the
seams here.

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And now all this talk about, you
know,

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anti-competition that the pay,
all the scandals,

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spitsers doing a pretty
interesting job.

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And we'll pay attention to him.

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Nick.

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Guitietta's, I think, one ear,

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thought I had of ladies in the
way in which the unlabel is
forming in a very,

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in a way very similar to that of
political revolution.

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Theoretically, the transition
from a dictatorship to a
demographic,

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democratic or Republic style of
governance happens when one,

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the central government loses
exclusive control of
information,

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meaning the ability to control
distribution and thus the ideas
of the public.

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Ooh, that's definitely up there.

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And two, the middle class begins
to emerge and turn against

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said central government.

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Very astute there, Nick.

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I think you're on to something.

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Definitely do.

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Uh, what the hell was this?

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This was an audio comment.

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I don't remember why I wanted to
play.

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Sure, mech sense of second.

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Hey, I'm, my name is Byron
Barman.

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I was just listening to the
Charlie number 346,

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and Stewart Devonport seems to
have a problem with some missing
files from the iTunes

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music store.

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All right.

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About a year ago, I also lost
quite a few downloaded songs,

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but after a quick email to the
iTunes music store.

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Dude, you're freaking me out
with a left-to-right thing.

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The port, I was able to read
download everything.

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No extra money, no extra hassle,
no problems.

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All I have to say, to Stewart is
try emailing tech support before
you

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publish on somebody else's show.

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Adam, thanks for the show.

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I look forward to it every day.

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I don't have my own show yet,
but you can check out my website
at www.busticated.net.

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Also, be sure to check out my
little brother's music on the
pod save music network.

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You can search for him under
Andrew Bowerman.

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Thanks a lot.

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Thanks a lot.

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All right, okay.

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Now, I just want to make sure
you heard that because of
opposing views.

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Uh, I just have to wonder, I
have a feeling that more people
have been told

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sorry you're out of luck than
not.

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So, you know, I haven't been
able to find any type of policy
that says you can get your music
back.

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And of course, with the sales on
the unlabel, you have a little
cubby hole area

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through PMN where you can always
go and read download your stuff,

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so you can play it wherever you
are.

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Let's see, just a couple things,
yeah.

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I wanted to mention this thing
about, where is it now?

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About this congressman.

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I think he's a congressman.

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Let me just double check.

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It's a good, uh, this is about
that AT&T trying to own the net,
uh,

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Preston Garala posted this on,
uh, I think on the curry.com
comments.

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AT&T Verizon and other telcos
have been warning that they're
going to demand money from
Google

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and other sites if those sites
want adequate bandwidth.

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But now a senator is proposing
that to ban the practice and is
standing up to the telcos

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who are acting more like a cyber
mafia than legitimate
businesses.

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Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, Ron
Wyden of Oregon today introduced
legislation that would

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ban network operators from
charging sites for extra
bandwidth.

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The law would also ban the
practice of favoring some
content providers over others.

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I think that's more important,
actually, that according to the
New York Times.

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Other congressmen are, uh, uh,
co-tiling to the telcos because
the telcos are big campaign
contributors.

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They'd let the telcos do what
they want and turn the internet
into their own private network.

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Okay, uh, the widen bill called
the internet non-dense
discrimination act of 2006.

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Not a sexy name, but the Inda.

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The Inda, everybody.

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They, they, the faces tough
sledding money talks and the
telcos are doing a lot of
talking.

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Again, these are all comments
from curry.com.

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In addition, the FCC has made it
clear, they won't take any
action on the matter,

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so we can look, we can't look to
them for help.

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So I say, um, could somebody
please, you know, point out a
link, you know,

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how do you, how do you support
this bill? Is that by, uh,
emailing your congressmen or,
uh, or emailing, uh,

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Ron Wyden, what, what is the,
what is the, what is the correct
action?

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And maybe collectively, if we
all, uh, hand over some money
is,

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let's just, let's just fight
money with funny, with funny
with money.

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Money with funny, baby, honey.

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Let's just, uh, you know,
collectively send a whole bunch
of money to this guy, so we, you
know,

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and, and to other, uh, other
people who support the bill, so
they won't have to take money
from the telcos.

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And let, let your voices be
heard. Let's see if, uh, this
stuff actually works.

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Now that we have voices, not
just written voices, but real
voices that can be heard.

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Uh, thanks, uh, to everyone for
all the vacation suggestions.

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I guess you guys think I should
take off, huh?

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And I shouldn't podcast that
all, I don't know if I can do
that.

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Uh, I definitely need, you know,
internet wherever I am, just to
keep up.

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I had to empty out my Gmail
inbox once in a while, so, you
know, email doesn't start
bouncing.

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Um, but we're really going to go
somewhere where virgin flies,
and I think it's going to be
either Antigua or Barbados.

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So, uh, I'll, uh, let you know,
but it is going to be the first
week of April.

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That's for sure, Patricia's
birthday. It's going to be nice,
Christina has vacation, very
much looking forward to it.

53:20.000 --> 53:26.000
Ken Wells has Adam your
observation about stone people
not getting arrested on cops was
interesting.

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I have noticed that the typical
guy arrested on cops is not
wearing a shirt.

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In fact, in my home, as soon as
the police interact with the guy
with no shirt, we all say, he's
going to jail.

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That is kind of interesting.

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No shirts. No shirt was
definitely a way to get your ass
lung in jail if you appear on
cops.

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All right, um, that's it.
There's nothing really.

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I can save all this stuff for
more, more pots and music
network stuff.

53:55.000 --> 54:03.000
All right. Let's see. We did
about 53 minutes, uh,
overwhelmingly 99% of, uh, of
all comments that came in said
that, uh, you guys like the
longer podcasts.

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So, uh, there you go. 54 minutes
today.

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Tomorrow, we'll be back, uh,
it's going to be a week home at
the cottage on Friday evening.

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We're going to go, uh, uh, on a
little trip. I'll talk more
about that later this week.

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It's going to be the three of
us. And, uh, oh, cheese. I can't
believe I forgot the most
important thing.

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I wanted it. Well, not the most
important. I forgot something
really important today.

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Shit. I want to do that at the
beginning of the show. Well,
this will show how many people
listen to the whole thing.

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On Monday, um, the wind
commander and I are flying back
with a Delta Sierra, which has
been completely refurbished, is
completely ready, completely
done and ready to rock.

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And this will be its final fairy
flight, which means it's going
to be, uh, stationed at Ferrox
Echo Golf Tango Fox Trot here,
uh, in the UK, not far from the
house.

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And, um, I'm going to need a
safety pilot while the plane is
here. And a safety pilot is
someone who's an experienced
pilot, um, who flies with you.

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Um, you know, sometimes we'll
take over part of the duties,
but it's just kind of theirs and
extra set of hands ears and
predominantly eyes.

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While I build up my, uh, my
hours in, uh, you know, really
someone who also knows the
landscape knows the airways,
everything.

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And it just has some local
knowledge of where I'll be doing
most of my flying.

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Um, so I'm looking for a safety
pilot. And I thought, you know,
there's so many people who are
wishing me tailwinds has gone to
be someone who knows somebody,

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or maybe someone who's actually
listening to this podcast
directly, who, um, has the time
available and, uh, obviously
you're going to be a pilot.

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I, you're going to have, uh,
experience, um, it will be great
if you had experience in the
Cessna 182 RG, um, but it is,
you know, complex aircraft.

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It'll be great if you're a
flight instructor and it'll be
great if you have no job and are
retired and just want to fly a
lot and make some extra money on
the side.

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Uh, so, uh, send off, uh, and,
you know, any contacts or
anything, uh, or anybody you
would know to animecurry.com.

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Uh, and I, you know, I'd love to
start on Monday if you're
available.

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So, uh, Monday or we could
possibly make a Tuesday, but
there's gotta be some pilot
around here who was just, you
know, just loves to fly.

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And, uh, and has the time, you
know, I'm pretty flexible.
There'll be some overnight
stays.

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Basically, we would take
everything, we'd pay some money,
um, and, uh, and we'd have some
fun as well. So, looking for the
safety pilot.

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Pass it on, everybody.

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Goodbye, everybody. I'll talk to
you tomorrow.

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Another pod show pod guest.
Stick it in your ear.
