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Delta Sierra Charley, 3-4-8.

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$16 million worth of airplane
strapped to my ass.

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Then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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How can you love me when you
don't know who I am?

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[ Music ]

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I've been accused of the crime,
but inside it will spin.

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Just wasted my time, I keep it
under my skin, take it home
Matthew, man, I gotta get

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down the Nashville again,
Matthew Ebal, I'd be the
Nashville actually, I remember
what

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I do there, did some appearance,
what is it to peer or the
harborside or river side or
something

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like that, for some top 40
station, I remember Christy
Canyon was there during that
particular

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appearance, Christy Canyon, the
porn star, I guess my
illustrious past, just looking
at the

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pod save music network page from
Matthew Ebal, you could easily
be, you could be Matt

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Dylan's brother, you know, if
you take away the go-tee maybe,
you know, he has kind of

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that same shape head, who cares,
everybody how you're doing, it's
Tuesday coming to you

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from the cottage today's crap,
otherwise it's rainy, if it were
any colder than we would

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be seeing snow without a doubt,
so I guess that's kind of good,
most of continental Europe

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has seen plenty of snow in the
past few days, oh, there I go
again, one day I'll actually
remember

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to start the show and remove the
blackberry from my pocket as I
do it.

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Hey plenty of stuff to go
through today, the conversation
just keep on continuing, people
responding

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to previous shows from
yesterday, from last week Andrew
Spettings says, Adam, I'm all on
my own,

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I'm listening to your show for
over a year now and love it when
I talk to people that

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work about podcasts, they look
at me as if I'm out to lunch,
all I can say is their loss

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No, no, no, no, no, this is your
job, man, this is where you've
got to look burn a show

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onto a CD for them, send them to
dailysourcecode.com, let them
click on a link, send them to

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podshow.com, hunt around, go to
podcast alley, podcast people,
don't send them the iTunes

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necessarily because that's where
people will start to fall off
the edge and also that's where

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it's confusing, you know, do you
need an iPod, you need all this
stuff, so just send them a link,

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man, just email somebody a link
and say listen to this and make
sure it's something that is

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tuned for them that you think
they're like, he winds up by
saying, I agree with you, you're
a

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view of Callie from Geek Brief
TV, go, hmm, yep, Callie and I
are going to be doing some stuff

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together in San Francisco, my
next trip, which I guess is
going to be, I guess next week,

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but the girls and I are going to
go away for the weekend, I'll be
telling you about that on Friday

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and we got some fun stuff
planned, which would be great,
the three of us staying in a
hotel,

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two separate rooms, yeah, and
then Monday, we come back
Tuesday, oh, maybe I'll even
leave Tuesday,

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shoot, I don't know, it's going
to be another 10-day stamp,
that's for sure.

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A very long email, which I won't
read in its entirety, but I just
love the opening from Paul

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Russelling. Hey Adam, enjoy the
podcast when I find time. It's
an interesting views angles

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I was astounded last week when I
discovered that your Patricia is
in fact the lady whose voice

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I kind of fell in love with back
in the late 60s as the begiling
voice of the skull beer
commercial

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played on radio Veronica. Later
she did a couple of wonderful
jingles like sailing the moon
line with

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Veronica, she should do that. I
shouldn't be doing that. Let's
see, and so on, over what must
have

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been in one of the first lifts
of a commercial singles as the
backing track. That's right,

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it was no dusty spring field
beside the summer is over. Those
are still some of my favorite

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radio jingles and believe me, I
must have heard thousands and
remakes quite a lot for various

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radio stations I've been
involved with. And it just goes
on and on and on. I mean, he's
he's back

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from the the Miyamigo days. Oh,
actually, this is kind of funny.
He was on the radio himself.

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Remember we talked about
flicker, the service, and how
that name means something
different in

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in Dutch? He said, well, I was
back in the crazy days of
Miyamigo, which was another

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pirate radio station, actually
on the high seas, on the North
Sea broadcasting from a ship,

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medium wave only, which was the
shit back in the 70s. I was an
unknown looking for an

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interesting name with a good
hook. My real name was
unsuitable, and we were all
supposed to have a

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new name. Isn't that crazy? By
the way, how this joke is used
to change their names. I've
never done that.

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Oh, actually, I'm sorry. I have
a decibel radio. That's true.
But this seems like I got paid
for

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my own name. One of my Dutch
colleagues suggested flicker. I
thought, good idea. A one word
name,

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like Roscoe, and we can have
flicker stickers, and maybe even
flicker knickers. So, right in

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early the next morning, six a.m.
I hit the air with a new name.
Your DJ flicker. I was on the

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English service of radio
Carolina at the time. We had two
transmitters, one Dutch one
English,

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but we still did some links in
Dutch to make matters worse. I'm
identifying as a Dutch DJ,

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did is you knew an English style
of DJ, your flicker. So
basically it was DJ Fag, what he
was saying,

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Dutch. Ah, the days when we used
to play nasty pranks on each
other at the radio station.
Sometimes,

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sometimes, just a little bit, a
little bit I long for those
days. Hi Adam. It's a Simon here
from

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the Chintware Podcast, which is
at www.chimware.org. I'm calling
you from Bath in the United
Kingdom,

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and I just want to say a few
things. Firstly, with the court
case, I'm wishing you were the
best

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of luck and court case. You're
obviously in the right morally
physically mentally, socially,

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psychopathically, I don't know,
but anyway, choose two of the
all the above. Definitely the
right.

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So, good luck with that.
Secondly, for many reasons why
I'm calling is that there's
problems with

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the podcast alley, the podcast
marketing system. My podcast,
Chimware. I'm trying to get my
friends

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to vote for it for obvious
reasons, and it seems that some
of my friends who have hotmail
accounts,

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which is the worst account ever,
but some of them do. I can't
vote for it, because I think
podcast

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alley has been blacklisted. I
just thought I thought that like
he wants to know because the

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votes aren't being counted for
people with hotmail accounts,
which is the majority of my
friends,

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so my podcast only has two
votes, which is my hand, one of
my other G-well friends. So
that's

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all I wanted to call about. I
can't think of anything else.
Good luck with the case. Great
show.

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Keep it up. Love the Charlie,
and Tata. Tata. To the pit.
Right, court case, judgment day.

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Thursday, March 9th, we'll hear
what the judge says. I just get
butterflies in my stomach
thinking

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about it. So this is, it's kind
of four to it. It's how this has
all come together where we're

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learning about this whitelist,
blacklist stuff, and the
incredibly unfriendly email tax
that I

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believe AOL is going to, they
say they're going to start it
next month, is going to put on
emails,

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which is not a spam protection
for you. It's just guaranteeing
the spammers that the spam will
get

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through. And when I say
spammers, you know, I basically
mean marketers who call your
name from

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somewhere and send it on
through. And we find found this
out quite by accident, although
I have

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a feeling that I do recall Chris
McIntyre mentioning this to me
months and months and months ago
about

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the email registrations. And
yes, it is indeed a problem. And
hotmail is the biggest offender.
Again,

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hotmail and MSN both blacklist
all kinds of email, and they
will send you to a different
company,

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a third party, which they use
exclusively to have this stuff
solved, which costs money.

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I should really look into the
ownership of that company and
find out if there's any,

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to any ownership by Microsoft.
Anyone can check that out,
that'll be, that'll be really
cool.

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But this is really the
multi-tiered internet, even in
today's financial times, there
was an article

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about it where AT&T, who was
about to buy, who were about to
buy Bell, South, I believe,

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are now saying, hey, you know,
we're going to charge content
companies to have content travel
over

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our network with any decent
speed. So they're talking really
about building a second internet
next

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to the original one. And I think
that, obviously, I think this is
a really bad precedent.

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I believe that it's charging,
it's kind of like having your
cake and eating it too. And
there's

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been lots of feedback about it.
Hey Adam, how's it going? I
cannot believe this deal that
they're

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talking about where you're going
to have two different tiers of
internet provider. I mean,

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I pay for my internet
connectivity. It doesn't just
fall out of the sky. So I have
my 50,

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60 bucks a month goes out there.
And I expect to be able to get
what I'm paying for. I paid to
be

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able to go to Google. I paid to
be able to go to Yahoo. I paid
to be able to go to, well,

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I'm not going to mention that
site. But how can they then say,
yeah, you're paying for
connectivity,

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but Google didn't pay us two, so
we're not going to deliver to
you. Now let's take the other
side of it.

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Google paid for circuits to get
on to the internet. Probably
pretty damn big circuits.

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Now they're going to tell them,
yeah, you bought the fat pipe
and you are a big part of the
internet,

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but we want more money because
people are actually using your
pipes. Google can't put anything

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more on the internet than they
have pipes to feed it with. And
they had to buy those pipes

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from someone. If they got a DS3
hooked up to the internet, then
they can't be feeding any more

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than a DS3 was of content out
there, which they bought. If I
have six megabit down from the

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internet, I can't get more than
six megabit, which is what I
paid for. Just like on my end,

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if I didn't pay for large
bandwidth downloads, then I
would have a slower connection.
But I would

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pay less. I don't understand how
and who they're going to charge
more to. Are they going to

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come to me and say, hey, if you
want fast connection, here's the
speed. And if you want fast
connection

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with content, here's the premium
above and beyond that. And are
they going to go to Google and

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say, hey, you want fast
connection to the internet,
here's the price. But if you
actually put anything

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on the pipe, we're going to
charge you extra. Maybe what we
should do is we should vote with

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our dollars, like you say, but
in a different way. Form a group
that says, I will only buy

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internet connectivity from an
unrestricted single tier
provider. And Google should go
to their

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current provider and say, hey,
you know, we spend a lot of
money with you guys. And we're
going

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to stop doing that. If in any
way, our content will be
restricted by anyone else on the
internet.

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That would make the people that
want to bully everybody into the
multiple tier network,

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instantly irrelevant. They would
be other charging for their
restricted network and everybody
else

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would be paying less for the
unrestricted network. Just a
quick thought in what I know is
a utopian

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world in my mind. But I don't
know. I don't like the idea of
destroying the money at the
politicians

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and hoping that they'll take
care of it. I'd rather vote with
my dollars myself. So I guess
everyone

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should hurry up and head over to
www.bukaidrivetime.com to listen
to the Bukai Drive Time podcast

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before it gets too popular. And
you have to pay extra because it
doesn't suck. I don't
understand.

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Well, Adam, I'm not a pilot, so
I can't wish you to go wins, but
in the current environment,

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I think it's going to make more
and more sense for us to look at
each other and wish each other,

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single tiered bandwidth, lighter
and keep it Ruby. Yeah, okay. So
what AT&T and also what AOL are
doing,

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this is two different coins, two
different sides of the coin
here, or really all different

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sides of the cube of the
equation of multi-tiered
internet. It is, of course, part
of the American

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system. It's privatized. AT&T
has the right to charge whatever
they think they can get away
with,

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I guess. There's a very
interesting article on
muniwireless.com, muniwireless,
my uniform November

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India wireless.com, which claims
that the $200 billion that was
invested in creating the, or
that

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was supposed to create the
broadband infrastructure that we
have today actually came from
taxpayers

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from tax breaks and incentives
for the telcos at in the dot com
boom. I'm not quite sure

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about the legitimacy of that,
although I don't, I read
wireless, a muniwireless a lot
and they

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seem to be pretty much on the up
and up, but at the end of the
day, it comes down to us to the

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consumers. And, you know, if we
sit at, I mean, so yeah, there's
DRAOL dot com, and I'm sure
there

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will be similar types of
websites that we can express our
outrage, but it really doesn't
make any

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difference. I mean, look at the,
look at gas pump prices, and
then look at what kind of
profits,

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the oil companies have made in
the past few years. I mean, it's
been astronomical. And we
continue.

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Well, actually, it's getting
better, I have to say. We're
switching on to biodiesel, we're
switching

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on to electric cars. This is not
about, for me, personally,
although it's nice if, as a
bonus,

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we also save the environment.
But you use your pocketbook,
man. Use your pocketbook to vote
for

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what you really want and, and
leave AT&T. I don't think you
need AT&T for anything anymore.
Do you need it

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for, um, for telephony? No, you
can get that from your cable
provider. You can get it from
different

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broadband providers. So, you
know, you can get your internet
from them and you can get your
television

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from them. I think we, hello,
dear. It's the, oh, what is
this, huh? You're a little
early.

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Thank you. What do we have? What
do we have on the, uh, on the
menu today? We have

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come a little closer. Something,
um, what? Well, not so healthy
today. Oh, very good. What is
it?

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Well, what is it? Well, it's
Dutch. Yeah, but it's warm. It's
warm. Yeah, but you're, the
timing's all

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are fun. I know, but I have to
go. I know, but I'm in, you're
long, sorry. Getting from the
microphone,

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if you're going to talk, please,
I hate to just hear it. You
don't make you a lunch. You
don't eat.

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Yes, this is true. So, and I
have to go. I'm going to the
center. Okay. Oh, you're for it.

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To the center. To the center. Be
careful for people stopping
following you. You know,

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Roger Smalls is out there. Oh,
yeah. And, uh, and I was
thinking, I think, well, I'm
going to

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make him lunch because if I
don't do that, I don't eat. I'll
come back at four, five and I
said,

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did you eat something? Uh, no, I
forgot. I mean, that's not good.
So, that's why.

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Okay. Thank you, huh? You are my
princess. Oh, thank you. My
prince. Yes. Okay, baby. Okay.
I'll

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eat it during a comic strip
blogger. Yeah. All right. I love
you. Oh. So, vote with your
pocket

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book for Christ's sakes. I got
to talk to earth link and see
what their policy is on on all
that stuff.

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You're just, oh, man. It's,
it's, it's, it's nuts. But, you
know, the, the press is catching

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on to it. That's really good.
And we can put them under
pressure by walking away. That's
really what

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you need to do. We need to have
a list of, of, uh, internet
providers that won't be charging

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a premium content. And, and of
course, there's going to be some
because that too is the American
way.

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So, uh, former, he'll staffer,
uh, Thomas says, Adam, this is
actually on the comments, uh, at

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curry.com, uh, former he'll
staffer devoted D.A.C. listener
here to become active. It's best
to

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tell listeners to contact their
own senators and urge them to
co-sponsored the bill. Well,

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widen may appreciate the
support. If you call it his
office, his staffers are busy

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and have taken care of people
from Oregon. So, you have to go
and call, um, your
representative.

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After a quick search of, uh,
Thomas.loc.gov, I don't see a
house companion bill. So,
finding a house

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sponsor is the place to start.
While AT&T has been a major
contributor to Republican, a
representative

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boosher, B-O-U-S-C-H-E-R. It's
possible. He may be willing to
sponsor a house version.

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Uh, he's usually very good on
tech issues. Only time will
tell. All right. And then we got
another one from,

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it's from Jay Barker, uh, says
you asked them today's show that
was yesterday.

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Best way to support Senator Ron
Wyden and the internet
non-discrimination act. Really
the best

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thing any legislator can hear is
feedback from his constituents.
I keep the phone number for the

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U.S. Capitol switchboard in my
cell phone. I'm a student. So,
wherever I'm between classes, I
take

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three minutes to call, ask for
my Senator or rep and leave a
message to the effect of hi. My
name

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is blank. I'm a voter from
blank. I would like Senator, uh,
uh, or representative. So, and
so to vote,

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yes, or no, on blank. It helps
to know the bill number, but
it's just as easy to describe
the bill.

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So, the main number for the
house and the Senate is
202-224-3121. Oh, what I love
about podcasting.

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You don't have to repeat those
numbers. You just pause it, skip
back and you can write it down.

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The internet non-discrimination
act of 2006 is bill number.
Estes in Sierra, 288,

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India, Sierra, and is sponsored
by Representative Chris Cox and
Senator Ron Wyden.

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And I'm going to do that myself.
I was going to do it on Skype on
the show today, but everything

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broke as usual. Last night,
Patricia and I watched a
recorded the Academy Awards on
Sky Digital,

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which is the equivalent of, of
Tvoing in, I guess. And, uh, I
was disappointed. You know, I
mean,

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I think it's really come down
to, you know, the fact that all
we really want to see is

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beautiful, guys and girls,
beautiful dresses, beautiful
attire, some funny jokes. And by
the way,

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where was all the political
stuff? You know, you know,
George Clooney, if you have 100,
as, as the

21:18.760 --> 21:23.640
show claims, hundreds and
hundreds of millions of people
watching, what's not an
opportunity to say

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something? I really didn't miss
that. I missed a little bit of
the controversy. Good, you know,

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I thought John Stuart did a good
job, you know, it's, uh, it's
not easy doing that.

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And, uh, it was obvious the
audience who was kind of tough
to, to get him on board, but,
uh,

21:38.920 --> 21:42.040
I known John for a long, long
time and I thought it was pretty
cool what he did.

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Higher than Kerry. Fuck you very
much for the partial and
incomplete answer to my
questions.

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Regarding your question, well, I
had been unloferably dismissed
by finished fucking bastards,

22:12.440 --> 22:18.440
because I was blocking about
mobile phones, all mobile
phones. Please note that I was

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blocking about mobile phones
since year 1996, it means one
year before the term block or
web block

22:27.320 --> 22:34.120
was coined in year 1997. In
other words, I was blocking
about mobile phones.

22:34.120 --> 22:42.520
Long before I came to Finland,
which is the Bum Hall of the
whole world. Unfortunately, a
couple

22:42.520 --> 22:50.760
of years after my arrival to
Finland, one of my blogs, the
one with dot info in internet
domain name,

22:50.840 --> 22:59.800
achieved Google Painter 7,
Google Painter 7, what was very
high then, and this finished

22:59.800 --> 23:06.360
drunkards couldn't stand that I
was blocking about all mobile
phones and not just

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their mobile phones. Anyway,
this is a long story that
involves industrial espionage
that

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industry practices, even with
use of threats and Viagra, and
certainly I will not tell you

23:21.240 --> 23:31.080
it publicly on the podcast. Yes,
nowadays I am a fan of Windows
Mobile phones, and now this is
simply

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the best platform for
smartphones. Windows Mobile is
the best platform for
smartphones. And as

23:38.680 --> 23:48.920
example of palm shows, palm uses
this platform in their latest
phone palm trio 700W

23:48.920 --> 23:56.760
that is available now on Verizon
Wireless in USA. I also don't
agree that my comments on your

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block were one sided and all the
same, because I was commenting
about different issues, various

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several different issues, not
just those mentioned in my
former audio comment. Anyway,
let's

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wait till this fucking Thursday,
and let's see what this Dutch
batch, I'm sorry, let's see what

24:20.280 --> 24:28.280
this Honorebo Dutch Dutch will
tell. So, fuck you later,
podcast creator. Oh, coming
through

24:28.280 --> 24:34.920
blogger, man, that is just
poetry. Thank you so much. I
just left a little pause there
because

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the satellite window closed,
nothing left nothing left to
say. People on the satellite,
what the hell was

24:41.000 --> 24:47.160
that? You know, comic strip
blogger, this is very
interesting. Okay, so I guess
you worked at no

24:47.160 --> 24:52.840
here, if I understand correctly,
and you kept a blog, the way
before the word blog was even
popular,

24:52.920 --> 24:59.400
apparently, you'd seem to be the
inventor of the web blog. And
you were blogging about all
mobile

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phones. Now, I can understand
from nochias perspective, which
is, you know, definitely an
older

25:06.600 --> 25:10.920
school, not old school, but an
older school type of company
that they wouldn't appreciate
that. You

25:10.920 --> 25:18.120
blogging about, excuse me, yeah,
you know what I want to say. You
know, you blogging about

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all types of mobile platforms. I
can understand what they, they
have control issues about that.

25:24.360 --> 25:29.560
And so, apparently, they, I
guess you fell out or they fired
you or you left or whatever,

25:30.360 --> 25:35.320
you're no longer in Finland,
then you went to Germany, I
believe. What I'd really like to
know

25:35.320 --> 25:40.680
comic strip blogger is, what is
your vocation? What do you do?
What is your skill set? And,

25:40.680 --> 25:45.240
you know, what did you do at
Nokia? And what are you doing
now? You seem to have an awful
lot of

25:45.240 --> 25:50.440
time on your hands. So, very,
very curious is to, as to what
skillset you have. And,

25:50.440 --> 25:54.200
perhaps we can put that to, to
great use right here on the
source code. You know, could

25:54.280 --> 26:01.640
Metro, Metro, Metro, Metro,
Metro, Metro, Metro, Metro,
Metro,

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Metro, Metro, it's Alan Curry's
Metro sexual moment. She did it
up now.

26:07.240 --> 26:13.960
Alan Curry's Metro sexual
moment. Hey mate, says Phil
Walker, funniest thing happened
last week.

26:13.960 --> 26:19.400
I was on a flight from Ken Barra
to Sydney and I just sat down on
my seat and plugged in the iPod
to

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listen to my daily Charlie. As I
look out the window, I saw a
virgin blue. That's the Aussie

26:24.280 --> 26:31.560
Virgin of Virgin Atlantic. A
virgin blue 737 taxi in the 737
was in a livery, I had a livery.

26:32.440 --> 26:37.160
I hadn't seen before. It was
covered in a Gillette
advertisement for the M3
Shaveer.

26:37.720 --> 26:41.400
See this link for a picture of
the aircraft. I'll be sure to
post that in the show note.

26:41.400 --> 26:46.600
So, there I was listening to the
Charlie on my iPod looking at a
virgin 737 with Gillette

26:46.600 --> 26:51.400
M3 advertising. I just had to
laugh out loud. If only they'd
served up some Simpsons and say,

26:51.400 --> 26:58.600
oh my flight. Phil, love the
picture. And you know, what is
that with all those brands
coming together?

26:59.000 --> 27:02.200
Perhaps there's some larger evil
plan that I haven't told you
about?

27:08.200 --> 27:13.000
See this is the only problem I
have with cast blasters. I can't
control the sounds on
everything.

27:13.480 --> 27:18.360
Okay, let's try again. Hello
Adam. Leo Vgo de He, calling
from a beautifully sunny

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Brisbane in Queensland, the
Sunshine State. I was talking to
an Australian colleague about
matters

27:24.040 --> 27:28.440
Metro sexual, a couple of
evenings ago, when the changing
no microchill came up.

27:29.240 --> 27:34.520
First it was Metro sexual and
then Uber sexual, but what was
the word to use in 2006?

27:35.400 --> 27:41.720
Straight away he came back with
her mafredude. It's not the most
flattering term I think you'll
agree,

27:41.800 --> 27:46.440
but a fun one nonetheless. I'm
not convinced you should rename
the Metro sexual moment

27:46.440 --> 27:49.320
section of the show though. Have
a great day.

27:52.520 --> 27:53.800
Really got to work on that show.

27:54.040 --> 28:01.560
Metro sexual. Metro sexual. It's
an increased Metro sexual
moment.

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An increased Metro sexual
moment.

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Christian. Christian. Unbehound.
I think it is Christian
unbehound. Adam, for those of
your listeners

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who are uncertain about how to
shave well and do everything
okay in front of the mirror,

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wouldn't it be cool to let them
listen to your Metro sexual
moment also in their bathroom

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and get the latest tricks from
you while they're shaving at the
same time?

28:28.120 --> 28:32.920
Because here is the gadget
everybody needs for his perfect
shave. Yes, it's pretty much a
shaving

28:32.920 --> 28:37.880
mirror with built-in stereo
speakers and a slot for holding
your iPod. Something nobody
really

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needs but gives you the right
feeling for truly being a Metro
sexual guy. By the way,

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is the Metro sexual moment song
from Jeff also available for
download my wife and children

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are really loving it. Can't stop
listening to it. Christian, that
dude. Come on.

28:53.800 --> 28:57.640
I don't think Jeff has made it
available for download. I don't
know if many people have
actually

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requested that maybe you should
make up some more words to it
and we could turn it into an

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overnight sensation here today.
Good morning Adam. This is your
friend Ralph.

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Otherwise, no, no, no, no. Skip
G. I have no podcasts. I have no
podcasts with nerd.

29:12.040 --> 29:20.680
For your Metro sexual moment, I
would like to recommend a Zeno
moisturizing bar. It has natural

29:20.680 --> 29:27.960
coil oatmeal, it has no soap, it
has no fragrance, it has nothing
but soap and it will

29:27.960 --> 29:35.000
keep your skin clean. Don't like
it. You don't need all those
other products. This is the
answer.

29:35.000 --> 29:42.200
I've been using it since I was a
child and now I'm in my, what
should I say? It's a

29:42.200 --> 29:46.520
decade and I don't have it again
as smooth as a baby's out.

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And could be Metro sexual
moment.

29:52.280 --> 29:57.400
Hey Adam, this is Dave Jackson.
You might know me from the
school podcasting.com or the
musician's

29:57.400 --> 30:03.800
core but this past weekend. Oh
my, I launched another podcast
and this one's called The Best
of the

30:03.800 --> 30:07.560
Words. Now, we are going to have
a lot of fun at this site.
There's going to be voting

30:07.560 --> 30:12.520
and of course, there'll be an
RSS feed for listeners, but
there's going to be an
additional RSS feed.

30:12.520 --> 30:17.320
And this feed is going to have
two minute segments of Best of
the Words featuring content

30:17.320 --> 30:23.160
four podcasters that they can
play in their very own show. So
a podcaster specific feed

30:23.160 --> 30:29.240
in addition to the listener
feed. Now, what is Best of the
Words Podcast? Check out this
promo.

30:29.320 --> 30:35.240
Hey, who doesn't love a parade?
The big marching bands, the
dazzling major reds, the funny

30:35.240 --> 30:41.240
clowns and the beautiful floats.
And after all those wonderful
entertainers, there's that one

30:41.240 --> 30:49.560
guy at the end of the parade
cleaning up the horseshit. Well,
that man is me. I'm Dave Jackson

30:49.560 --> 30:54.840
and I want you to join me every
week as I bring you the Best of
the Words bands at the

30:54.840 --> 30:59.160
Podsafe Music Network. It just
because you suck doesn't mean
you don't deserve a little

30:59.160 --> 31:04.600
exposure. But after all, one of
the best episodes of American
Idol, those weeks were those
creepy,

31:04.600 --> 31:11.640
crazy toned-up people do their
best and it's the worst. So join
me at Best of the Words
Podcast.com

31:11.640 --> 31:16.440
and help us pick the best of the
worst. By the end of the show,
you'll wish you were deaf.

31:24.840 --> 31:29.640
Adam Curry for us. Yeah. He
spends a lot of time over there
and his little cottage. He does

31:30.680 --> 31:35.640
English manner. Mm-hmm. Well,
you've got a little bit of a
look on your face right now.

31:38.520 --> 31:44.360
Is there something that you want
to share? Well, this week, I've
got a little thing for Adam
Curry.

31:45.160 --> 31:50.840
I don't know. That's all right.
I assume our listeners listen to
Adam Curry and we know he

31:50.920 --> 31:55.880
listens to us a little bit. We'd
like to give Michelle out for
playing our ad a couple of
times.

31:55.880 --> 32:03.320
Yes. Yeah. Thanks, Adam. And you
know, I've Google imaged him and
he's cute. I guess I'm changing

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the subject here. That's fine.
Harden me if I seem flustered.
I'm thinking about Googling. Are
you

32:07.560 --> 32:12.760
diverting from lip gloss to
laptops right now? I am. We're
into the laptop section. All
right. A

32:12.760 --> 32:19.640
Google imaged Adam Curry. So you
Google imaged? I like when he
says things like wing commander.

32:20.120 --> 32:26.520
And Sierra Echo X-ray Yankee. He
starts talking like that. Right.
What is that? You know?

32:27.880 --> 32:39.000
What is it? See Sierra? Sierra
Echo X-ray Yankee. It means
sexy. So you're naughty. He is
the same age

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as Hank Azaria, too. Really?
They're both 41. I think, or 42.
Anyway, you know what? My
husband's listening.

32:46.760 --> 32:53.960
I had a change in sub-john wine.
Yeah. Maybe one day we'll have
to get into, you know, things
that

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I enjoy. Oh, yeah. But not
today. No? No. No. So sure make
me seem like the freak. Okay,
let's go on

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to mascara again. Lip gloss and
laptops.com. So what is the
Buckeye Drive Time Podcast? It's
probably

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easier to talk about what the
Buckeye Drive Time Podcast
doesn't have. I don't have an
open

33:19.400 --> 33:24.680
microphone while I'm playing a
novelty song so that everybody
can laugh in the studio and let

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you know that it's supposed to
be funny. I don't have an intern
that I send out into the world
to

33:29.640 --> 33:35.720
publicly humiliate by wearing a
costume or asking ridiculous
questions of pastors by. I don't

33:35.720 --> 33:42.280
have any hookers or escorts or
strippers in the studio. Joy
said no. But you do get a quick
Ohio

33:42.280 --> 33:47.800
moment of fact or a piece of
information about the center of
the universe. Occasionally
sports

33:47.800 --> 33:54.120
from my castredale, three pods
saved songs, and three podcast
promotions. And something else

33:54.120 --> 33:59.080
here and there when I feel like
throwing it in. At the end of
your drive, you should feel like
you've

33:59.080 --> 34:04.040
had fun, been entertained, or a
little bit more intelligent. The
idea is to be an alternative

34:04.040 --> 34:10.120
to the regular morning zoo-type
drive time. That clear channel
has been pushing on you for
years.

34:10.200 --> 34:17.720
So check us out at
www.bukaidrivetime.com. And if
you like what you hear, go ahead
and subscribe.

34:17.720 --> 34:22.360
And we'll do our best to help
you keep it groovy. I hope you
didn't mind all the promo's

34:22.360 --> 34:27.240
one after another. I had to eat
those hot dogs, man. They were
getting cold. Oh, so good.

34:28.680 --> 34:34.040
Just use me. That was
disgusting. Just one thing about
the the Oscars. I was just
reading

34:34.040 --> 34:39.880
them through the promos and
through my hot dog. The ratings
were down about 8% compared to

34:39.880 --> 34:49.640
last year. Excuse me. But John
Stewart did bring 5% more males
18 to 34. That's so crazy the
way.

34:50.520 --> 34:54.360
You know, the way they measure
all that stuff and they talk in
such abstracts. I was just
disappointed

34:54.360 --> 35:00.680
by the show. I really was. It's
just like, okay, you know, the
best. Yeah, that really was no
best moment,

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actually. It's just it seems so
blah. I'm just jaded or whatever
it is. There's just so much more

35:06.680 --> 35:10.280
exciting stuff that I can spend
my time on. Three hours of
watching that stuff.

35:12.680 --> 35:15.880
We've got a few more pieces of
feedback. I want to talk about
the pot set music network
because

35:15.880 --> 35:20.280
it got a lot of comments about
it. Good and bad. So I want to
make sure we get to get
everything in

35:20.280 --> 35:27.080
there. And some comments from
for all. Hi, this is Annie
Grubins. We podcast listeners
here.

35:27.080 --> 35:33.000
No, Germany. Have started a
little campaign to find a logo
for our hobby. By wearing this

35:33.080 --> 35:39.080
logo as a sticker or a button,
we want to show others that we
listen to podcasts and make
podcasting

35:39.080 --> 35:45.800
more popular. My listeners have
come up with 94 different
graphics. And now we are looking

35:45.800 --> 35:52.680
first for the top 10 and then
for the winning logo. Please
feel free to take the poll 2 at
podcast

35:52.680 --> 35:58.440
logo.com. Thank you very much.
I'm very curious about the
results. You know, I actually
looked at

35:58.440 --> 36:02.520
that and there's a whole bunch
of really nice logos. There's a
couple of them I'd want to use.

36:03.080 --> 36:06.920
Yeah, you know, I think that's a
pretty good initiative. Germany
is popping wide open by the way

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on the podcast front. And I do
have a French, a French
feedback, but I'll play that one
tomorrow.

36:11.640 --> 36:19.160
Somehow I got the the file
misplaced or something. Podcast
logo. Was it podcast logo dot

36:20.520 --> 36:25.400
dot com? Was it or dot dot
shoot? Look in the show notes
and I'll get all that info back
to you.

36:33.960 --> 36:37.640
We're living here a bit longer
than you have though. I
originally came over for a six
months of

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work contract back in 1986. So
I've been here for almost 20
years now. I do still spend
quite a

36:45.080 --> 36:49.000
lot of time in Holland though
because over the last few years
most of my work's been in
Amsterdam

36:49.000 --> 36:53.720
in Ethiopia. So I spent most of
the year easy jetting out at 6
a.m. on Monday morning from

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late in the Tuesday, and back
from tomorrow to late in the
1815 on Friday afternoon. As
quite a few

36:59.640 --> 37:04.120
other people do as well,
surprisingly. But I'm not doing
these as yet commuted moment
because

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some are necessarily in between
contracts. Although I'll be
popping over to Amsterdam again

37:09.560 --> 37:13.800
later this week for a few days.
And it was over there that I
discovered since a few years
back

37:13.800 --> 37:19.400
him got totally hooked on that.
So I'd like to make a few
comments on the T-pad as you

37:19.400 --> 37:25.880
discussed in the Charlie 346.
You're seeing deed that sounds
totally disgusting and in two
ways

37:25.880 --> 37:29.960
even. First of all, you'd never
want to make a petite machine
that has just produced coffee.

37:30.760 --> 37:35.720
It would not taste good. Or vice
versa for that matter. Suppose
we don't work if we actually
have

37:35.720 --> 37:40.440
two machines. One for coffee and
one for tea. Now luckily I
haven't had three of the little
bastards,

37:40.440 --> 37:46.280
but that's a difference story.
Secondly, I know they're called
pants in Holland and most of the

37:46.280 --> 37:51.320
rest of Europe. But if you care
to pick a pack of them in a UK
supermarket and look at the
packaging,

37:51.400 --> 37:57.320
you'll see that they're not
called pads in the UK. Pads
would not be good. Just imagine.

37:57.800 --> 38:02.200
Somebody's saying, honey, can
you get me some pads when you go
to supermarket? You don't come

38:02.200 --> 38:09.480
back with the wrong thing. No,
in the UK, they're actually
called pods. Not pads. So I
guess before

38:09.480 --> 38:14.040
you start recording a show, you
put a pod in your sensei or
machine and make yourself a
glorious

38:14.040 --> 38:19.720
cup of coffee. That means your
sensei or driven audio show is a
pod cast in more than one way.

38:20.200 --> 38:28.200
I'm at Finne Looker Closer.
Funny, huh? Our one common
common people separated by a
common

38:28.200 --> 38:35.000
language. Yeah, I guess the pads
thing is kind of a mistake.
David Groves sent me an email
and said,

38:35.000 --> 38:43.320
you know, I've just, my
girlfriend, was it? I don't know
how to read that whole thing.
The whole

38:43.320 --> 38:50.120
point is he's saying that people
who come into the daily source
code who are newbies probably
don't

38:50.120 --> 38:53.800
understand a whole bunch of
things you're talking about. And
even though I do try to
reiterate

38:53.800 --> 38:59.160
very briefly before I start off
on a rant or a story, it seems
that the the main things that
are,

38:59.160 --> 39:04.680
you know, that need some
explanation or that we need an
FAQ or a cheese would be great
to have an

39:04.680 --> 39:09.480
audio FAQ, wouldn't it? I got to
think about that. So some of the
subjects that David would like

39:09.560 --> 39:14.600
explain the detail is I guess
the genesis behind Trinity. What
is biodiesel Delta Sierra is
this

39:14.600 --> 39:19.800
your plane, Roger Smolls. Yeah,
that's that that needs his own
FAQ. You're American who lived
in

39:19.800 --> 39:24.520
Netherlands, married a pop star
now living between Gilford and
San Francisco. Yes, correct. All
of it's all right.

39:26.200 --> 39:30.520
We'll do a Trinity segment later
on this week and talk about that
as in biodiesel. Delta

39:30.520 --> 39:35.160
Sierra isn't the plane and it's
almost done. I got an email from
the guy in Rotterdam who's doing

39:35.240 --> 39:40.520
the Reopholstery. Both seats are
done. The carpeting is done. The
side panels and the doors are

39:40.520 --> 39:48.200
done. Now the back seat is the
last thing he has to do. I've
booked a round trip easy jet for
the

39:48.200 --> 39:53.160
three of us to come back on
Monday, but with a little bit of
luck, we might actually be able
to

39:53.160 --> 39:58.200
fly back in the Delta Sierra.
And yes, it's the reason I call
it that is because the call sign
is

39:58.200 --> 40:04.520
November 277 Delta Sierra. Hey
Adam, it's Rob Uston from the
Jersey Jamcast. I wanted to
throw a

40:04.520 --> 40:09.480
quick comment out to you about
downloading music from the
positive music network and ID3
tags.

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A lot of times I download a
couple of tracks from the PMN
for my show. I pop them into
iTunes and there's

40:15.560 --> 40:23.640
no ID3 tag info. It's just using
the file name in the song title
selection. It's kind of

40:23.640 --> 40:28.360
convenient because then I got to
go back and see what song is by
what artists. I might do a
couple

40:28.360 --> 40:33.720
songs and then I have to go into
the info manually, which is not
that big of a deal for

40:33.880 --> 40:39.320
me as a podcast or other
podcast. It's kind of a minor
inconvenience, but once you
start selling

40:39.320 --> 40:43.800
music on the podcast music
network, it's going to be an
issue. It's got to be seamless
so that when

40:43.800 --> 40:49.480
somebody buys a song and puts it
into iTunes or whatever program
they use, the ID3 info has

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got to be there or else they're
going to end up really
frustrated. So if there's a way
you can put

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a reminder up for the artists on
whatever page they upload songs
from, I think that would be good

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or maybe there's a way you can
have the pod safe music network
alter the ID3 when they upload
the

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song with maybe some info that
they might enter on a page and
as they're uploading the song,

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it'll alter the MP3 and put in
the ID3 tag info that they want.
That would be really good.

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So hopefully there's a solution,
but it's definitely something
you got to look at.

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And if you haven't checked out
my show, come on by. It's the
Jersey Jamcast, which is
Jerseyjamcast.plogspot.com.

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I play the best music coming out
of New Jersey and I'll tell you
there's hell of a lot of good
stuff

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so come on by and any bands that
I play that aren't on the pod
safe music network. I'm trying

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to get them up on the pod safe
music network and hopefully
we'll get to more bands
involved.

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So all right, take care Adam.
Yeah, good point. Yeah, thank
you, we did Jersey Jamcast.
Yeah,

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very good point. And we've
talked about that. I talked
about this with comments and
promos and feedback

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all the time as well. Please.
What is wrong with me? Use those
ID3 tags. And I disagree with
you

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that once we start selling, no,
no, no, this is an unlabel. This
is not a music story. It is not

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iTunes music store because in a
store things are closed off
locked off. There's only one
door in

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a maybe a service entrance and
there's certain ways you have to
do stuff and you can look

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but you can't touch in the
store. In the unlabel concept,
the artist is responsible. This
is where

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I believe we're taking the
record company out of the
equation. Record companies do
all this

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stuff for the artist. Now, if
you are a completely introverted
out of your mind,

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whacked out musical genius who
can't find the the interest to
make sure that your stuff

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is marketed correctly, then find
a friend who will, okay? And and
work out some arrangement with

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them. I would I would strongly
advise against a record
contract, certainly a mainstream
record

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contract. And as we're just
waiting for the email stuff to
get cleared up, you know, I've
said

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that a hundred times but once
that's done, then anyone who has
a song on the podcast music

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network will be allowed to to
make their MP3s available for
purchase and download free and
clear.

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And by the way, we're coming up
with a very interesting
announcement. Another piece of
the unlabel

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is going to be snapped into
place within the next couple of
weeks. I'm pretty excited about
it.

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And you'll be hearing more about
that. Of course, I'm under a
strict no-damn announcement

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so regulation here. But back to
the ID3 tags. I think that if
artists don't do that
themselves,

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then people just won't buy from
them. They'll say, hey, you
know, the quality of that isn't

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what, you know, it's this we
don't have a store that is
offering quality because,

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well, geez, man, then we'd have
to actually put a whole bunch of
people on it and be a lot of

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work. And then you keep cutting
into the slice of the of the
artist himself. And just to
remind me,

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I want to talk about Ioda a
little bit more as well. A
report from Ola Christian Vale.

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I hope I'm pronouncing that
right. Purchasing music from PMN
is working nice from the Farrow
Islands.

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I had to call to activate the
account using Skype. But after
five minutes, I could buy some

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music from Matthew Ebel.
Awesome. I cannot buy from
iTunes from the Farrow Islands.
And I feel that's

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discriminating since we are part
of the Danish kingdom. And
Denmark is accepted by iTunes.

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I've contacted the two record
companies here to work on that.
I will also introduce

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podsake music network to them.
Excellent. Dude, thank you. What
about taking your daily source

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code to the Farrows? Oh, oh, the
Delta Sierra. I'm sorry via
Scotland, then Shetland.

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It's a special tricky airport
with in flight 14 degrees
offset. Yeah, okay, Ola. Don't
think I'm

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going to be doing any time soon.
I'm still looking for a safety
pilot, which I talked about

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on yesterday's show. Got one who
was sent in who couldn't make
it. Another one, I'm still

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hoping to hear back who actually
apparently is at Farrows at
Elkogolf, Tangofoxtrot. So God,
that'll

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be so cool. Another piece of
feedback about pods at music. Hi
Adam, this is Ed Ovet, host of
Ed's

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mixed bag. And I just wanted to
say that I had spoken to Dan
Johnson, who does a podcast in
Ohio

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called Journey Inside My Mind.
And him and I were talking about
Matthew Ebel on the chat line.

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And Dan turned me on to the fact
that Matthew had a podcast. I
started listening to his podcast

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in my car. And then I heard him
talking about Laura Clap and
playing her song, hey, hey
sister.

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And then I came home and
downloaded the song from the
podsake music network. And then
a few days

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later, I heard from Marcus of
the podshow music rewind, who
requested I send him a
five-minute clip.

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So I chose Laura's song. And I
understand you heard her on
there. Just wanted to say how it
never

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ceases to amaze me. How one
comment to one person can start
a whole string of events turning

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a relatively unknown independent
artist into a fully blossomed,
you know, widespread hers artist

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on the podsake music network or
on podcasts in general. So the
podosphere is quite a community

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quite powerful. I guess we owe
it all to the power of the
internet, huh? Okay, so I just
wanted to

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pass that little peek behind the
curtain glimpse scenario type of
thing to you. Take care.

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Yeah, thank you very much.
That's exactly the way it went.
And I heard the song on the
podshow

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music rewind, which came from
you, which came from your
contacts, which came from it's
just this

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is exactly how it works. This is
fantastic. And we've got to keep
promoting it artists,

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podcasters, listeners, all
alike. This is how the unlabeled
all fits together. Now, Mark
Kelsos

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says, could you have a gift
option? It would be cool for a
family of friends to open his
email

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and see that someone bought you
a song. We all know people who
like a certain kind of music,

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but need to be encouraged to
know more about podcasting.
Maybe instead of 99 cent
purchase,

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it could be $5 option to share
with ex amount of friends. Mark,
yeah, that works very easily
when

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you have a store. Again, we
don't necessarily have a store.
I'm going to ask Chris Rockwell
what

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the possibilities are that that
would only really work if it was
a function of clicking by,

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who's the partner we're using
for the transaction piece of the
unlabel. So I'll look into it.

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But again, this is this is store
stuff and this is not unlabel
stuff. And hopefully we'll find
ways

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to fix that. Albert Young Niber,
Albert Young Niber is actually
sent in a very interesting piece
of

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information. And this reverts
back to how do we pay artists
who are outside the US? Now, you
probably

47:34.680 --> 47:39.720
know that if you have an eBay or
Amazon affiliate account or even
Google Adsense, you know,

47:39.720 --> 47:44.520
every couple of months, maybe
once a month in your case, a
check shows up for whatever
amount

47:44.600 --> 47:49.160
you've sold and you're cut of
the advertising. And it's very
difficult to get these checks
processed

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outside of the United States,
almost impossible, I'd say. And
if you do find a bank that'll do
it,

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they charge you a huge fee,
which really almost kind of
takes away the whole joy of
making any any

47:59.080 --> 48:07.000
kind of money on this stuff. The
online casinos use net letter
says Albert Young. Maybe you
should

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look into that. I've won some
money with online poker and net
letters like a stop between for
your

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money and you would pod show and
could put it in a net, in a net
teller account, which is a
company

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in the UK, they take care of
getting it to the person
somewhere in the world. We're
going to look

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into that very, very good. Thank
you very much, Albert Young. And
now the big news, gosh, this was
so

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amazing. This came out yesterday
sent to be my many, many people
in the Netherlands who
apparently

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the Netherlands is listening.
Raymond Port, my buddy, who's
been a fan of the show for,
gosh,

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over a year now, almost a year
and a half, probably. It turns
out there's a politician in the

48:44.440 --> 48:50.360
Netherlands, a member of the VVD
party, which is a center right,
not to the right, right, more
right

48:50.360 --> 48:57.160
wing. And I guess he's been
reading the annual reports of
the Dutch ASCAP BMI, who are
known as the

48:57.160 --> 49:04.280
Buma Stemera. And this guy is
screaming bloody murder and I
think he's absolutely right. He
says that

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it's unbelievable. Now, this is
the company that takes money
from restaurants, from bars,
from hotels,

49:11.720 --> 49:17.880
from elevator operators, from
companies, just any, if you have
a company, any company, what's

49:17.880 --> 49:20.840
even if you don't have the radio
on, you don't have to pay a lot,
but you still have to pay money

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for maybe the fact that
someone's singing in your
office. They take it from radio
stations,

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they take it from television
stations, they take it from
satellite broadcasters, all that
money,

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and it's about a hundred million
a year, euros, I guess. They
have an overhead of 22%

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their office alone costs over a
million euros a year. That's got
to be some shit-nast nice place,

49:42.360 --> 49:49.400
man. And he's saying, you know
what, that's to be more
transparency. I need to know
what are the,

49:49.400 --> 49:54.040
the members of the board making.
That's not, you can't find that
anywhere. I mean, they spend
about

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eight and a half million euros a
year on salaries. They have a
hundred and ninety people
working

49:58.280 --> 50:03.640
there. Presumably, people in the
field, I guess, maybe they have
a really big office, but what

50:03.640 --> 50:08.760
the hell are they doing? Well,
it turns out what they're doing
is they're taking this money,

50:09.320 --> 50:15.400
which is meant for artists. Now,
I believe they're a non-profit.
They should be a non-profit.

50:17.800 --> 50:22.040
But they take this money, they
collect it. And by the way, it's
not like, you know,

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your song gets played on the
radio, you get your, your 20
cents the next day. Oh, no,

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it's sometimes takes up to three
years. You know why? Because
they're investing that money

50:32.120 --> 50:39.640
into stocks and bonds. They have
over almost three hundred
investments. And in the past
year,

50:39.640 --> 50:46.920
they lost millions of euros on
their investments. This doesn't
make sense to me. These guys are

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taking the money from, that is
supposed to go to artists. And
of course, many artists even
say,

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you know, I don't think I see
anywhere near my fair share of
what I should be receiving. And
it's

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the same with Ask out BMI and
the same complaint everywhere,
basically. But they're investing

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that money, losing the money,
and then passing on whatever
else they have after they've
hit,

51:05.480 --> 51:12.040
I don't think they, they deduct
anything from their own salaries
and check this. There's the

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Repro-recht, which is a
nonprofit, Vidima. I think is,
yeah, it's the two combined.
Vidima who does

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takes royalties for copying of
moving images and photocopiers.
They receive 19.4 million euros,

51:34.200 --> 51:40.920
but only distributed 6.3 million
euros. What happened to the, to
the other 13 million euros?

51:41.560 --> 51:47.080
And so this guy is great.
Uptrout is his name. Uptrout.
Charlie Uptrout.

51:47.720 --> 51:53.320
Alpha Papa tango, Romeo, Oscar,
Oscar, tango. Dude, go get him.
When I told Patricia that she
freaked

51:53.320 --> 51:56.760
out, man. She's like, what the
hell? And you know, and she told
her dad, who of course is living

51:56.760 --> 52:02.920
off a pension partially
subsidized by Buma Stemera. This
is nasty. And it's been going on
for a long

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time. And I've, I've actually
told Patricia about this. I said
you're crazy. You know, the shit
that's

52:06.760 --> 52:12.280
going on there. It's not right.
They're keeping your money for
years. So, you know, that just
goes

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to show you how the big, the big
organizations think about
intellectual property, whether
it's my

52:17.480 --> 52:21.800
pictures on flicker or your
song, they're stealing from you.
That's just the bottom line.

52:22.520 --> 52:26.600
To line it up today, Dermit
says, I've just spent the
afternoon listening to some good
old

52:26.600 --> 52:30.520
Elvis Costello stuff. Radio
radio caught my attention. I'm
sure you remember it.

52:31.000 --> 52:36.440
Oh, of course, you can't play
it, which is a bummer. Here's
some of the lyrics.

52:37.720 --> 52:42.840
And the radio is in the hands of
such a lot of fools trying to
anesthesize the way that you
feel.

52:42.840 --> 52:48.040
Radio is a sound salvation.
Radio is cleaning up the nation.
They say you better listen to
the

52:48.040 --> 52:53.320
voice of reason, but they don't
give you any choice because they
think it's treason. So you
better

52:53.320 --> 53:00.440
do as you're told. You better
listen to the radio. Elvis
Costello, a visionary, a true
visionary,

53:01.400 --> 53:11.800
for sure. Well, I just got
offline and I'm feeling so fine.
I must have had 30 or more.

53:13.560 --> 53:19.480
emails from friends, Lord, where
will it end? So much love from
these folks I adore.

53:21.480 --> 53:27.800
Well, to be totally frank, a few
were from banks, offering great
mortgage deals

53:28.760 --> 53:35.720
and three may be four of real
little hardcore with a chance to
enhance my appeal.

53:36.600 --> 53:47.720
But even with a little spam, I
thank God every day for this way
to keep in touch with friends

53:47.720 --> 53:57.720
with so many things to say. A
little known facts about
unnatural acts. So much I never

53:57.720 --> 54:07.640
didn't know. Do they have email
in heaven? If not, I don't want
to go email me some love now.

54:11.250 --> 54:30.120
[ Music ]

54:30.120 --> 54:36.920
And to chatter and such and say
stay in touch, but don't have an
email breath.

54:38.200 --> 54:44.680
Now God clearly meant that an
email be sent any time that you
have a thought.

54:45.960 --> 54:52.360
And if you're in box ain't
scoured five or six times an
hour, then you ain't doing all
that you ought.

54:53.750 --> 55:29.720
[ Music ]

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And I'm not sure that I want to
go.

55:35.160 --> 55:39.880
Jim Turr. Do they have email in
heaven? If not, I don't want to
go. That's it for the Charlie

55:39.880 --> 55:45.320
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