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Delta Sierra Charlie 3-4-9er

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Hey Adam, this is Richard Hull.
Don't forget to turn off that
black pre-before-start recording
today. Bye for now.

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[ Music ]

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I'm a real just for it, I'm a
real just for it

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I'm a real just for it, I'm a
real just for it

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Hey!

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Oh, a gravity, risen from the
Podship Music Network

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Everybody how you doing welcome
to the

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Early source code coming to you
once again from the

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Curry Cottage in the Fabulous UK

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You know, I've noticed a lot of
commenters lately have been from
the UK

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This, um, hey gravity is also
from the UK

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What are they?

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A two-girl three-boy dynamic
UK-based guitar band

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Fronted by Electric Shomtoos
singer Justin Barry

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Very cool, check it out at
music.podshow.com

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What is it?

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What is it?

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I don't know

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I've all kinds of sound issues
here today

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Sometimes I just wonder if it's
my head if it's my brain or my
ears or whatever it is

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Not a nice day today

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It's raining

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Yeah, just, you know, nasties,
pouring down rain, dark outside

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Not really good other than to
sit inside and record a podcast

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And man, I've been so busy doing
things

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Oh, um, also a video music cast
coming up

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I think I'll put one together
today

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I've been receiving material
from all around the world

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Looking for great music videos

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Podsafe, of course

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I've received play that aren't
podsafe

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And also some fun things I'm
going to stick in there

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So be on the lookout for that to
show up in your aggregator and
your pod catcher and your iTunes

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Or whatever you may be using

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Go to dailysourceco.com

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And click on the link for, you
know, it says direct link to
show

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Just click on it starts playing,
so it's a beautiful thing

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Uh, let me see

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Let's start off with

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This is the first complaint I've
actually heard

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About the use of the word the
Charlie for the source code

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Of course the genesis of this is
the daily source code

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Uh, I started tagging my
podcast, which makes it much
much easier for people listening
on iPods

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And especially not even iPods

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Um, on devices that don't even
have a display or a proper
display or if you're driving

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And you just, you know, hit the
play button

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And you can hear exactly what
show it is

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And you kind of remember which
show you listened to last

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And that became a bit tiresome

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So I changed it to DSC and then
I changed it to Delta Sierra
Charlie

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And um, I didn't come up with
this Charlie thing

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And someone actually called it
Cha Cha the other day, which is
quite frightening

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Uh, Mr. Carcran has other
thoughts about that

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Hi Adam Chris Carcran here from
the car cast

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Just wanted to send you a little
piece of feedback

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And ask you a question

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And I've never asked you to
change anything about your show

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I would not even pretend to know
as much about programming a
podcast as you do

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But I gotta make this request

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Lately, you and your listeners
have started calling the daily
source code the Charlie

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Just wanted to maybe we could
stop using the phrase the
Charlie

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And the reason is as I'm a 32
year old man

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I've been in broadcasting for 10
years

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Now I'm doing podcasting
exclusively

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And uh, I'm

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No pansy

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But

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As a child

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My mom used the word Charlie for
something other than someone's
name

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In fact

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That's a nickname my mom gave a
male penis

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If a time I was a little kid
until probably about the fourth
grade

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All I knew I never knew the word
penis

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Hold on, did you say male penis?

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As opposed to female

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Female penis?

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We just called it a Charlie

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So you can imagine the way that
I feel and the

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Repulsion I feel every time I
hear someone say

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Talk to you on the Charlie

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Or

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I heard on the Charlie

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Or

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Catch you on the Charlie

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I just I can't do it anymore

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So just wondering is a
suggestion

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And if you say no I'll
understand of course I'll keep
listening

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But I'm sorry to go that out to
you

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Thanks for doing what you do and
of course if you're listeners
want to check us out

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They can't at thecarcast.com

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Or they can search out an iTunes

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Just search for the carcast

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Thanks Adam and talk to you soon

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Yo dude

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So that's kind of weird

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I'm older than you are

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Almost ten years older than you
are

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And I grew up my parents are
really specific you know

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It's a penis. It's a vagina

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And this is what it's called you
know like an arm or a leg or
whatever

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This is oh this pure I presume
you're from the US

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Very pure a technical

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I oh I despise that so much

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You know not calling things by
the proper name

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Your PP your thing your wing

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It's just a penis and by the way

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I'm very proud of my penis

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I like my penis

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How can you be freaked out when
someone talks about penis?

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Come on man, it's been there for
a number of years

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And I've kind of figured out how
to use it

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And I'm getting pretty good at
that actually

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So so Patricia tells me I'm
improving

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But no no no please parents

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Just call it by its proper name

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My gosh, you know they'll learn
how to what other names are
easier and sound better later on
in life

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But come on tell them what it's
for tell them what it does tell
them what it's called

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And I appreciate the feedback

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But that's just not enough to
change the change

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Using the phrase to Charlie

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The pod show podcast network is
really coming together

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We have a whole bunch of beta
tester podcasters

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Who are actually using the
system in two parts

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They're using the the upload
functionality

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And our de-gap dynamically
generated audio placement system

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For their uploads most of them
are using their own wordpress
web logs or wordpress web logs
that we've set up

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Which of course will not be the
final solution we have a whole
show site that is automatically
created

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And adapted with every single
upload

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It's become very very easy and
had a brief email exchange with
cast blaster mic this morning

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Looks like we're down to the
wire here on integrating cast
blaster

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Which is the program I'm using

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You can find that at
castblaster.com

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It's really really really simple

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And when it integrates with the
PDN, yesterday by the way

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You might have seen a really
strange URL for the

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For the Charlie

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On 348

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That was because I tested the
de-gap and PDN system myself
yesterday for the first time

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And it held together

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I did get some one piece of
feedback about something in the
ID three tags being wrong

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I'm not quite sure what that was
about but I'm getting
screenshots

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And we'll have more feedback on
ID three tags later on in
today's source code

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But what's really cool is we
have a number of people

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Predominantly I'd have to say
Richard Brue were hey

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Who really does all of the he
manages all the relationships
with the podcasters

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And you know and delegate stuff
for escalate stuff

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Whatever has to be done

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But he's really the main point
of contact

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He's doing it such a great job
and you can see how

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And they have wiki set up and
mailing list and god

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I don't know all kinds of stuff

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And people start to communicate
and figuring out how to get
stuff across the network

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We're learning how to schedule
things and Jay Donnelly is one
of these guys

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Who really gets it and he's
doing some incredible stuff

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Since he joined the net
actually's been doing lots of
incredible stuff

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But since he joined the network
he's coming up with more and
more

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Including some very interesting

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Super celebrity interviews

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And that was a cue to start

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There we go

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Hey this is Jay Donnelly from
madpod.com

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And on this week show we have an
exclusive interview with Thomas
Dolby

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Shadow has an exclusive
interview with the man blinded
by science

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And he talks about the future is
podcasting

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Thomas what's your take on top
40 radio these days

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Compared with 20 years ago

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I don't listen to top 40 radio
these days

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So I'm really not qualified to
answer that

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But it doesn't really appeal to
me

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You know I don't listen to very
much of it

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Occasionally I hear a hit that I
like

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Occasionally I'll focus on just
one piece of a song

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You know like I don't know

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Personally that's not where I
look for inspiration

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I look for inspiration on the
satellite radio now

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Which I think is much more
varied

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On internet radio stations and
podcasting

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What it becomes a collective
program from Santa Monica

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I'll podcast that and take it to
the gym with me

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So you know I tend to reach a
little bit further in

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than standard top 40 radio

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20 years ago I wouldn't say you
know radio had a white night

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I'd say that already radio was
in a state where

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You know computer generated
playlists were starting to
dominate

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You know it was all about
keeping up with the front
runners

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It was all about the the ads and
the rotation and so on

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DJs were not really choosing
their own songs

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You didn't get a sense of you
know a single guiding
intelligence behind the
playlists

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It felt like big corporations
were already involved

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I know a lot of people complain
about how it's become
consolidated

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You know by a few big companies
now

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And that's certainly I don't
think it's a good thing for
radio

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You're global audio internet
connection

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J. A. Domali and Shadows to you

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Mad

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Don't get mad

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Get media

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Mad

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Coming up this weekend on
madpot.com

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Yo excellente

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It was something else that was
going to happen today

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What the hell was it?

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I was um as I was playing that

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J. Domali clip I was thinking

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I've been sleeping really really
deeply

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Maybe that's it

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Maybe I'm not awake yet. It'll
come to me. I'm sure

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Um more pod save music on the
way in today's show

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And quite an interesting
conversation about ID three tags
that we started

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Just the other day

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Predominantly as it pertains to
the pod save music network

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And I just want to reiterate the
pod save music network is a
network

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It's not a store. It's not
necessarily a website

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It's a network where people come
together

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Where they contribute where they
you know contribute karma

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They take away karma. They
report back karma

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Um and you know and this is
really intended because it
doesn't make sense to have

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A real central resource because
we have that

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You know it's called iTunes and
and and all that stuff

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You know you get what you want

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Um and they have tons of people
working on that

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Well tons I mean I think the
iTunes team of course by you
know

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Relatively speaking is small but
still you have to have four or
five people

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Working on stuff and making sure
everything you know works
perfectly

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And that would either mean
tremendous scale to be able to
afford it

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Um or price fixing which is
another thing that is being
talked about quite a bit

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lately

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Um

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Well let's see what this
particular piece of feedback is
about because it does pertain to
all of us

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Whether you're a listener, a
podcaster or an independent
artist who wants to contribute
to the network

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Hey Adam Dave Jacobs from the
rock and roll Jew show, rock and
roll, Jew.com

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I want to disagree with you on
the ID3 tags and the pod save
music network deal

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Uh as a music podcaster I also
have had frustrations in
downloading tracks

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Not just from pod save music
network but all kinds of other
places on the net

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And they sometimes will come
down with no MP3 tags or really
messed up MP3 tags

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It really does make things a lot
more difficult for the podcaster

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And I can imagine for the music
producer as well

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Who's even less forgiving than a
podcaster

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Now you can say hey you know
this is the store

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It's up to the bands and if it's
all messed up

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People just won't buy from those
bands anymore

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Unfortunately I think if you
really step back and look at it
from a customer perspective

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That's just not what they're
going to think

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The customer really doesn't know
nor do they care that it's up to
the bands do this

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And is not pod shows
responsibility

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They don't know nor do they care
that you're not trying to run a
store

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All they know is hey there's
cool music on this thing and I
want to buy it

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And when I buy it I want to get
it and when I get it I want it
to be right

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Period and if it's not right
again

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They don't know who's in charge

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They're just going to come
straight back to you

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And that's going to be a real
problem for pod show

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When people download music and
something's not right with it

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They're going to come straight
back to you

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They're not going to go to the
band and say hey I download one
of your tracks

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And it's all messed up

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No they're going to come
straight back to the pod and say

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Music network owner because you
are you know the face of the
whole thing

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So I think you really have to
think about it from that
perspective

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And realize that you might end
up with a big customer service
problem

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Whether you like it or not
because in the mind of the
consumer

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That's just the way they're
going to approach this

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Even though you might like it to
be somewhat different

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So I don't know what the
solution is

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I'm sure there's some sort of a
technology thing that can be
worked to make it better

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And I will as a podcaster and
music consumer put the shout out
to all bands

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Hey guys

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Really be careful with your MP3
tags

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Take the time to do it right and
make sure that it's good

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Because when people download
this stuff you want it to be
right

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It just makes for a better
experience for everybody

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And that's it

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Talk to you later

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Bye bye

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Well I'm going to respectfully
disagree with you

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They are first of all you're
talking about customers

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These are not pod shows
customers

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These are customers of the bands

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Okay

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So you know if we're going to
provide customer service

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Well then we have to stand for
some form of service

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The show was really trying to be
a resource in this by providing
the resources to pull it all
together

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And have a central place where
commerce can take place

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But also people should be able
to get in contact with the bands

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That's all coming it as we
revamp the pod state music
network

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It's all part of the grand
master plan

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Oh I remember today when's that?

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Yes, I do remember

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I believe today Rob Wall should
podcast 411

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Has an interview with myself Ron
Bloom and Bill Reinhard from

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Limelight networks we're talking
about the pdn

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So make sure you check that out

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I haven't seen it show up yet

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But I believe it's today it's
being released

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So back to this

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And also I don't believe that
people by the way

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If people do all of a sudden
just start showing up

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At the pod save music network
and saying

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Unlistening and you know
cruising through songs

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And listening to them and saying
here something cool all by it

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I would be surprised

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And if we get to that point
where people come in

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Drows will then we will have to
rethink the strategy perhaps

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Or work with the other partners
which are podcasters

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And are independent artists

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On coming up with better
solutions

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But for my money

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I see every single independent
artist or band

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As their own mini corporation

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And they don't need a record
company for promotion

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Or for support

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Because you know it's pretty

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Cost effective these days to
record your own music

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And the only people really
involved are the the listen of
the podcaster

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And the artists but they are
working together

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What's been happening so far is

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People here are song on a
podcast

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They go to show notes or they go
directly to the pod save music
network

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Sometimes directly to the
artist's site

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It's all good to me

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And that's where they should be
able to find out more
information

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Now as a corporation

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It is the responsibility of the
person

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Actually pod show is not selling
anything

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The artists are selling this

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We're just making it all
possible

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And by keeping the overhead as
low as possible

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Right now as you know as we
enter into our beta period

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And a couple of songs are
available on the network

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We're not taking any cut

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It's a nine cents that goes to
our partner

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For doing the transaction

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And the rest goes directly to
the artist

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And in the future we want to
split that up

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As the unlabel concept starts to
expand

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And snap together

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Once we have those freaking
emails worked out

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So we can actually sign people
up properly

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We're getting very close

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Once we have that done

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Then

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I lost my train of thought

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Screw it

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My point is it is up to the band

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Or the artist

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They are responsible for that

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Now there are some things we
couldn't put

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We can put in place that I
thought of

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While listening to your comment
before I start to do the show
today

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One is of course

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When you upload something

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And I don't have an artist
account

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So I actually have to check into
this

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The first thing that we can have
is all kinds of flags

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And warnings that say please
enter your ID

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Three information is important

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Then we could have a version of

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I guess we could have some kind
of checker

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That once a file is uploaded it
checks for ID

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Three tags

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But maybe the best way to do
this

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Is something like the CD
database

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I've always loved that concept

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And I'm sure it still exists

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And maybe we can tie into it

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Or let's just create our own for
pod safe music

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And if you've ever seen how that
works

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If you go to burn a CD

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Or use to work this way

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Or not burn if you want to rip a
CD

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Is it just rip?

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Yeah, then you'd insert the CD

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Your program would go out to the
CD database

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See if there's already an entry
for it

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Because they're all marked
specifically

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If there's not an entry for it

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Then you're asked to enter the
tracks

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And information yourself

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And then I think it looks at

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Three or four different entries
before

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It makes a final entry and it
locks it down

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And that's it

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So we could do something like
that

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Which would then reverse

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Engineer the ID three tags back
into it

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I still think it comes down to
the artists

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Having to do that if they're
serious about their art

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And selling it or distributing
it

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Then they're going to have to

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You know, they're going to have
to do some extra work

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And it's not all that much work

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It's just, you know, people
don't realize

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And it's so awareness is the
main thing that we can take care
of

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But again, not a store, not into
customer service

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And we already have plenty of
customer service

20:49.000 --> 20:51.000
And we're dealing with

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With the staff that we have
available

20:54.000 --> 20:56.000
Jonathan Quirk

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Sent an interesting email

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Understand the radio station
consoles

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Often have a cough button that
mutes the microphone

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For as long as it's pressed

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Yeah, that's pretty traditional

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Given your frequent gastious
emissions that you blame on the
coffee

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Perhaps casplaster might could
add a

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Senseo button to casplaster

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This would spare our ears from
what is becoming

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Tiresome with repetition

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Rather than dead air resulting
from its use

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Maybe it would pause the
recording momentarily

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Or it could mute the mic and
insert the words

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And say when you're best
speaking voice

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Well, saving us from another
bell

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Well, a casplaster actually has
that

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It's called pause and it's
called talk

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You couldn't click either button
off if you want

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But I think you what you want is
you want it on the listener side

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You want some kind of warning
when it's coming up

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So that you don't have to listen
to it

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No, that is not one of the
features planned on the

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The final release candidate of
casplaster

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Which is coming up

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We're just about to release one
point out

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We'll just about casplaster mic
and I

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And I'm not talking about it

21:55.000 --> 21:59.000
It's what do you up to beta 61
and beta 61 which isn't out yet

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Mike has done something
incredible

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He really went the extra mile
and I appreciate it

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And I'm sure the droves of

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Other people are going to
appreciate it

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Because he he started to work on
the accessibility

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And we've talked about this many
times before

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But blind the blind community

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Has problems with lots of
websites

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That there's screen readers
can't follow

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We have plenty of issues with
that

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And you know and I have
committed to working on that

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As soon as we get some of the
basic stuff out

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And rolling we're going to be
doing some work in that area

22:31.000 --> 22:35.000
And proof of that is Mike who is
made casplaster

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Accessible

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Now I believe that it's already
accessible

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You know the all the play
buttons and everything

22:41.000 --> 22:46.000
We'll respond in the was it jaws
or whatever other screen reader

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A blind person can use

22:49.000 --> 22:53.000
But the problem has always been
the levels, the meter

22:53.000 --> 22:55.000
So I have a visual feedback here

22:55.000 --> 22:58.000
Which is basically like two LED
meters

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That are yellow and then they go
into green

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And then they go into red if
you're over modulating

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And he sent me a little clip
yesterday

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Which I don't know if he'd want
me to play that

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In fact most of it's in Dutch

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But it's really cool you can set
it up

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So that if you start to hit the
peak limit the peak volume

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You get a little

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Audio feedback in your
headphones

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Which will only be in your
headphones

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So it isn't actually recorded on
the show

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So then you know you have to
pull back your volume

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A little bit which is just
fantastic

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And I think that we could have
all kinds of audio cues

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Going on to be very, very cool

23:31.000 --> 23:33.000
So look forward to that

23:33.000 --> 23:36.000
I believe that's coming out in
version 61

23:36.000 --> 23:38.000
Hey Adam it's Heather from Ruby
Food Radio

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Where it's all girls all the
time

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And I've been listening to
everybody

23:42.000 --> 23:45.000
Gush about Laura Clap over the
course of the past couple of
episodes of the DSC

23:45.000 --> 23:48.000
And I'm really glad she's
finally getting some attention

23:48.000 --> 23:52.000
Because she's an amazing talent
and she really deserves all the
accolades that she's getting

23:52.000 --> 23:55.000
And women don't seem to be
getting much attention in the
podcasting world

23:55.000 --> 23:57.000
But hopefully that's going to
change soon

23:57.000 --> 23:59.000
I for one I'm trying to do my
part

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So if you want to hear other
great female artists like Laura
check out my show

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Ruby Food Radio at
RubyFruitRadio.com

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I am subscribed more chicks in
podcasting

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Love it

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If you're checking out this
podcast on serious stars

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The pod show podcast line up
coming up

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We have Pacific Coast Hellway

24:15.000 --> 24:17.000
Then a full hour of yeast radio

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Don and Drew go more daily after
that

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Then Brian know with the Frank
Truth

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And we wind it up with the
Michael Butler within half hour
of the best in pod safe music

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And I'll be back here tomorrow
for the Thursday edition

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The satellite window is closing

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Wave goodbye to our friends at
Sirius

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And it's just us here back
together

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This is great emails

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Dave

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I won't tell you where Dave is
from you'll find out

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Well I guess I can he's from the
poop report

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Hey Adam with Chris Rockwell
obviously suffering the world's
worst case of constipation

24:52.000 --> 24:55.000
That means he hasn't done a
daily download in months

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I turn to you

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poop for peace day is coming on
April 14th

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Without Chris you are my conduit
to the podcasting world

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And thus humanities greatest
hope

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The message of poop for peace
day is simple

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Republican or Democrat

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I really need some some music
for this

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Well I'll just give it a little
echo

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The message of poop for peace
day is simple

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Republican or Democrat black or
white

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Man or woman Christian

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We all suffer equally under the
tyranny of the bowel

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pooping is the only point of
commonality

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All human beings face and as
such

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It can be the basis for world
peace

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So if you want to know more

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Go to poop report dot com slash
piece to get information sign up
for an email reminder

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And download banners and posters

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You know strange things have
happened

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Some have changed the world by
sitting in the back of the bus

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And some could change to

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Oh man

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And some can change the world
just by sitting on the throne

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Comics trip

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Comics trip

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Comics trip

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Comics trip

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Oh man it just gets better

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I don't know if he's going to
send in a comment every day he
keeps threatening not to

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But then he keeps sending in
fantastic audio comments ladies
and gentlemen

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It is not mad wine scene

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This is a real person a real

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I'd have to say fan of the show

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There's no other reason why it'd
be so

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Intricately involved

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Yesterday asked our friend comic
strip blogger

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What his talents are what he can
do

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You know what are his skills

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And maybe we can work with him
in that regard

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You know I always see the
positive in people and

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Comics are bloggers been

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He wants me to use the word
candid

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But I would say in some ways
abusive

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Certainly of the English
language

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In the comments at curry.com

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Which regard the daily source
code

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And I asked him to let me know

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You know what he does he
certainly seems to have a lot of
time on his hands

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And here's his response

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I don't carry my skills

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I don't want that to know

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Frisky you are

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Well no point in elaborating on
that I see

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Because I am not your whole

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I repeat

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I am not your whole

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So unless you seriously

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Want to hire me at Potshore Inc

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Stop being so curious for a
fact's sake

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Generally

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I have impression that you are
one of those gazes

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Who like to play

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Unsuriously with people

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Like cats play with mice

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Show me wrong

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And agree on granting me in
person

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And interview mainly about
mobile phones

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And then I will tell you my
skillset

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The other shit

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Why?

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I should give you information

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If you don't want to give me an
interview

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Cut the crap alright

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You have your head stuck up your
ass

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Adam curry

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So let's change topic

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For me to poop on

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Take a cue there

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From...

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Was it the insult comic dog?

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No no no comic street blogger

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I'm sorry

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It works the other way around

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You want the interview

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You got to do something for me
first

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So tell us a little bit about
you

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And you know

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You can send in your questions

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I'll answer them

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I love mobile phones

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That's all I have to say about
the topic

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But we still love to know more
about what you're about

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And what makes you taken

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What you can do

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And how we could put you to good
use

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Comic street blogger

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That's really what we want

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Hi there

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I'm Doug Rhapson

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The host of geek acres

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It's a weekly podcast

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About

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Well

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Geek stuff

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The internet science fiction

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And other good stuff

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Hmm

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That's not a particularly good
description

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Maybe I could get someone to
help explain it

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Oh

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There's my friend Kelly

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Hey

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Kelly Lewis

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How would you explain my podcast

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Geek acres

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It's about three generations of
women

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And their lives

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And it's very very witty

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And the characters talk very
very fast

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Um

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Okay

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Yeah

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Thanks

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Maybe we need to dive into this

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Um

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Oh

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There's Steve Ealy

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He knows about podcasts

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Steve

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Steve

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How would you say that Geek
acres has changed the potosphere

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I believe that we live in an era

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Where anything that can be
expressed as bits will be

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I believe that bits exist to be
copied

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That's

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Deep

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Are you getting a sense of the
show yet?

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It's video games

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A generation of women

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And some bits

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Anything we've missed even

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Speaks on a mobile

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Play

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Yeah

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That too

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Look, he'll just have to check
it out

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Geek acres

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The weekly podcast

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Available at geekakers.com

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Or via iTunes

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Hey Adam

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It's Adam here

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Where are doing the course on
podcasts

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I'm podcasting.au

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We're just listening to the
childy episode

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Three, four, two

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About people ripping off your
flicker images

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Oh man

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That was such a real bummer

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What he did extremely bad

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Good luck with the core case

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And I hope it's got news

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If you want to see our flicker
images

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Go to the tax schoolworks

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All on word

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Or go to podcasting.au

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All right, fun to visit

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I'm before I say in Patrick's
day trying

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Podcasting.au

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And if you're coming

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Bring me something for this

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Yeah

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Influencing children all over
the world

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Very proud of the job I'm doing

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That's podcasting.au

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By the way

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A bunch of kids who are doing
some podcasting

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It's great

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Check them out podcasting.au

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Let's get back into that

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Multi-teared internet thing

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Because a lot of confusion about

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The two issues at hand

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One is email

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ISPs

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Where you get an email address

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Filtering out all kinds of email

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Which actually you want to
receive

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And basically

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Charging for email

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That you may not want to receive

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And then of course

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There's the AT&T

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Controversy

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I love seeing that word

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The AT&T Controversy

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They're saying that they want to
charge

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Services like Google

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Like Yahoo

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I'm sure eventually

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Potcho too

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And if you start a business

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They'll charge you too

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Just like they're

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You know they're

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Calling our email spam now

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The same will happen

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And people I just get tons of
email

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The people are saying

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Oh, now I finally get it

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You know I wasn't getting

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Registration emails through

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So here's where it gets a bit

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Confusing

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Myo Yard Enough

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So to add them

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Listening to Charlie 248

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I think 348

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Not so easy to get around

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Large ISPs like AT&T

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Bill South or even AOL

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See you may reject them as your
ISPs

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So that you vote with your money

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Which is what I said yesterday

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As you know if you have if
you're

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With an ISP that is charging
money

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To receive email

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Then you may want to consider

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Taking your money elsewhere

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However that's not so easy

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You see AT&T and others own
large

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Backbones that are throughout
the whole

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Continent and that smaller

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Broadband ISPs rely on

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You may be choosing your own
smaller

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Small ISPs but because they rely
on

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Large ISPs to serve their
customers

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Voting with your money becomes
irrelevant

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As AT&T will be taxing your
small ISPs

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Instead of you, AT&T doesn't
care who they tax

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And the small ISPs will increase
their prices

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To cope with so that you get hit

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Anyway

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Just some food for thought

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Agree something has to be done
about it

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Tearing the network is
ridiculous

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Enjoy Myo

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Okay, so a couple things here

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First of all, service is like
Google

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And also the Pod Show PDM

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Doesn't work

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It's not like we got out

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We went out and bought three
gigabits worth of bandwidth

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That is the model that I believe
will not scale

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For the type of media that we're
looking at

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In fact, I've been sitting here
watching

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A show download from
Potomatic.com

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I have no idea if it's their
bandwidth

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Or what it is but it's just been
grinding away

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For an hour trying to download
one podcast

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They're whole site of slow

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This is because

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This is huge data

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This is just unbelievable

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If you take all these podcasts,
the size of the files

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And the number of people that
are downloading

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Companies like Google and Pot
Show as well

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We have either directly or
indirectly

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If peering agreements

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So we sit actually at a
different place

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Where we connect to backbones
like AT&T

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And there's no money changing
hands and no taxation

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It's really okay, you're going
to give me this bandwidth

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I'm going to pass off this much
to you

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It's kind of equal so we call it
a peering agreement

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Because we're peers

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So no money actually changes
hands at that point

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This is down at the consumer end

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Which is a lot more interesting

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Because you have basically paid
for your eight megabits per
second

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And they're going to tax that

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A little bit further up the
pipeline

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You know as to what comes in

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So it could indeed affect your
ISP

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But I think most ISPs

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Have similar type of
arrangements

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Peering agreements the larger
ones

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Not everyone has to participate
in this multi-tiered system

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As it pertains to email

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I don't think that

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Any backbone provider will
filter the email

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This is the ISPs services
themselves

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Who are of course performing a
great service

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By filtering out all the spam
that you don't want

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But I believe we're performing a
true disservice

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If they charge companies for
sending email for guaranteed
delivery

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That was not the intent of email

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Not the way it was supposed to
be set up

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And it's just a bad idea

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Hi Adam, it's Barry Reiketer at
thickandblock.com

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Catching a couple of DSC's
lately

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Sorry the Charlie

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Notice one of my co-workers Matt
Snaggress

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Posted audio feedback

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Well it turns out

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I RIT department should be
writing you a check

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Because I only found out that I
was missing out on some pod show
emails

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Because they were getting
trapped in our spam filter

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So went back and looked and sure
enough there was some emails
from you

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Which brings us to another
subject

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I know this has been a big
subject on the Charlie for the
last couple episodes

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I managed to catch an episode of
this week in tech

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And they were talking about it
too

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But the idea about this couple
of things on spam

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And certified emails and AOL
charging

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This whole issue can be really
resolved with something that you

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You mentioned a few episodes ago

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Which is you know RSS

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I mean it's a solution

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Why you know I know you
mentioned

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Not wanting to talk about
technology on the show

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But it's just so brain dead easy
to have an RSS reader

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And subscribe to feeds of things

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Instead of jamming up people's
email boxes

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It'll be guaranteed you'll get
more data probably

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That people are looking at it

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Because you can go back to web
server logs

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Or a advertiser or a content
publisher

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Corporations should use it
internally

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You could have the HR channel

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You could have the facilities,
the parking lot channel

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You could even have that there's
leftover pizza in the kitchen
channel

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So I mean RSS seems like the
solution

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I wonder why more corporations
and publishers and marketers
aren't adopting it

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Because that seems to be the way
to go

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Anyway Adam, that's my rant

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Thanks for listening and keep up
the great work

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Love the new long format shows

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Hope you keep those up too

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Thanks a lot

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I really appreciate the feedback
that these two guys are giving
me

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Because they're actually in a
way

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They're customers of pod show

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But they're very, very on the
ball

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These guys from the advertising
and marketing community

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And they are really all over
this stuff

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And so first of all I appreciate
that

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Second of all you have course
RSS is going to be great

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You know, I think we still need
better aggregators, better news
readers

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Anxiously awaiting the arrival
of Windows Vista

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Which will have an RSS engine
built inside

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That all kinds of new
applications will be able to be
built on

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And of course that's where we
can start to integrate

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RSS delivery

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That you can integrate right
into

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I guess right into an email
client if you will

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It could look like email except
you could actually have a little
button

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I don't receive email from this
person anymore

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Actually, I just had an
interesting idea

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So what if we had some kind of
interim gateway

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Let's just say it's on your
computer right?

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And email comes in

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And let's just say it's
completely

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Oh man that's going to be so
tough

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Hmm

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Maybe you can set up a channel
so that if I sent you an email

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It would be from Atomacrui.com

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And that would you say okay turn
this into a channel

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Which means guaranteed delivery
to you

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And it would show up just like
regular email

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And of course on the other side

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I mean this is all under the
hood stuff

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So no one would ever have to see
this

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I think the only additional
thing is

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A button in your email client
that says

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And forget how we do it under
the hood RSS

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I think is probably perfect

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But let's just forget that

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Let's just say you had one extra
piece of functionality

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That showed up in all email
clients

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And that was

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No longer receive email from

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Let's not call it spam

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Let's just say no longer receive
email from

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This person or this entity

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Or definitely you know always
receive email from this person
or entity

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Maybe maybe that would work

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But the real problem comes down
to the registration emails

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When you're making that first
initial contact

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So I have Joan Kelly who writes
in

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Hey Adam I'm a lady listener
from Australia

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Ah

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It's the Sheila

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We call you Sheila's down under

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Firstly thanks so much for the
Charlie

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The Charlie

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I love your show

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You are such a pal from me to
listen to

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During my driving time or other
times when my ears are free

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You are an inspiration with lots
of creative energy

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Good great communication

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Believe you said a good example

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Okay, that's all I thank you
very much

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A refreshing change from the
pathetic siege

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Mentality of big business and
it's death throws

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This crazy stuff of emails not
getting through

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When people try to reach their
customers

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Is legitimate transactions

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Just makes me so cross

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I did experience that problem
when registering

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On the positive music network to
make a test purchase

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Finally I realized lots of mail
went a stray from various
podcasts

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Or when I tried to register or
obtain logins or something

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Including even the Don and Drew
Show and many many others

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They probably thought their
listeners were either

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Giving bogus email addresses or
letting their replies

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Or letting their replies get
lost in a junk mail folders

39:48.000 --> 39:50.000
See this is not just pod show

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It's all kinds of emails and
registration

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Things that are going back and
forth

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These really big these really

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But really these idiot big email
companies

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Are vandalizing the email
process

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It was well known that hotmail
block Gmail invitations

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I didn't actually know that how
lame is that

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Oh

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But I presume they were just

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Singling them out to hurt email
competition

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I think that's really wrong by
the way

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I have used my noxious little
hotmail account for situations

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Where I may be allowing my
address to get into the wild

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But now I realize that all

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A hotmail account is good for is
for collecting spam

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The legitimate mail often can't
even get through the junk folder

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Spam starts before you even open
your hotmail account

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Of course since every possible
address seems to be already on

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The spam or list

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Getting to the point at last

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I realize I must be kinder to
genuine organizations

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Or sites that I communicate with

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Especially if an automated reply
or applying bulk may be involved

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And give them the address from
my own mail server

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So they can reach me without
some poor guy having to manually

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Resend a password to log in
thinking to me

40:52.000 --> 40:55.000
Interesting that's such
individual manually operated

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Generated messages from PMN do
arrive but not the automated
ones

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Okay, so first of all

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Yeah, that's true

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Both Chris Rockwell and Chris
McIntyre

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Rockwell for pod sake music
network and McIntyre for pod
cast

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Ali actually do I think combine
the probably about 100 emails a
day

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They were approving manually and
sending out

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I guess from different email
accounts or something that does
work and does get through

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And that's a huge burden

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I mean may seem pretty easy but
it's not

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You know this stuff is supposed
to be automatic

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It's supposed to get there
automatic

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So but I just had another idea
about this because of course

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The ultimate solution is to run
your own email service

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Now this is where it gets kind
of kind of funky

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But wouldn't it be great

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God do you remember the cube

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Which I who made the cube

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It was bought by Sun
Microsystems at one point but
the cube was a beautiful box

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It was this actually very
aesthetically pleasing in a kind
of 80s kind of way to look at
server

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And you literally just you could
hook it up to your cable mode or
your ADSL

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And it had everything built in

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It had your own little internet,
a place free to store files

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You could mount folders and just
it was basically a server

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But it also had an email server
built in

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And a couple other

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You know a couple other really
nice features

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And I don't know if they
discontinued

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Work on that or not but of
course these days it would be a
box that would have Wi-Fi built
in

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Let's say we could really

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We could really get that down to
something quite cost effective

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And it probably shouldn't even
have Wi-Fi

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Just stick it into your cable
mode

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And it'll basically just appear

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I think we have enough open
source

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And it ran on Linux of course

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I think we have enough open
source technology to make that a
pretty seamless operation

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So what if we just instead of
calling it an email service or
just called it

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You know the ultimate

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Well we'll have to work on the
messaging and the marketing

42:57.000 --> 43:02.000
But the whole point is you would
have control over what is spam
and what is not spam

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And even if something got caught
in spam you could still go back

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Into your own

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Server and you could fix that
now

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Doesn't sound like something
that consumers would want to get
into

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What if it was just seamless
what if

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By the way Gmail a Google
thought for you guys Jesus

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I would buy this in a heartbeat

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So I could have unlimited
storage all my stuff would be
secure where I wanted

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It would be accessible all over
the internet

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Presumably of course because if
your home connection goes down

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But that's gotten so much better
over the years

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I think that'll probably survive

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And you could have all the
functionality you wanted

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You could have webmail

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It could be completely secure

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You couldn't let anything
through that you want

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You could of course could have
set up your own RSS versions of
email

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That may be a way to go that
would be a really nice consumer
device

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Just a small thing plugs in call
the ultimate email manager or
spam

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Whatever you want to call it
just so that people understand
what it does

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And we could solve a lot of
those problems just a thought
just a thought

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Let's see a couple more things
before I go today

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And I have another pod state
music song especially for the
Wednesday

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I had him this is CQ I just
thought I could give you some
quick audio feedback on Charles
346

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Charles

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Roger Smalls left you a note
about going to the park and not
being able to chase

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Follow women or pick flowers
because it's a public park

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You know as you well know there
are many

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Public schools in the UK

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Those are privately educating
children

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And therefore that is parents
are paying for that education

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So it's another use of the word
public meaning private in fact

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And therefore having to be paid
for independently

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Just thought I was an
interesting thing

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The other thing you might want
to check out is my website which
is www.goct.com

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For slash I hate Adam Curry

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Don't have a chance

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I wasted my time going to that
URL

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Now you know what that's
interesting you should have told
me this before the before I went
to court

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Because it is true in the UK a
public school is what we in the
US would call a private school

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Once again

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Someone sent me in the
correction this one nation
divided by a common language

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You say tomato I say tomato
tomorrow

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Tomorrow by the way is the
judgment

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I'm nervous I gotta tell you I'm
really nervous about what's
going to come out of all this
stuff

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I really well

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I'm quite sure the judge is
going to rule in favor of
violating the creative comments
copyright

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Again it all boils down to what
kind of message is the judge
going to send

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You know the Netherlands seems
to be very interesting country
these days

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There seems to be quite a lack
of regard for individual
copyright and intellectual
property

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Looking at their ASCAP VMI over
there the Buma Stemera

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And the Taiscopi Reicht and all
these guys who are just hoarding
money

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Investing it

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Investing other people's money
losing that money

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And then just polishing that
away on the final year end
results balance sheet

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Not good so I think a message
has to be sent about the value
of intellectual property

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Because it does work both ways
if I steal a 99 cent song

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I can get a hundred and fifty
thousand dollars lawsuit slapped
against me

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If I what if I just post it some
pictures from playboy magazine

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Yeah, I've been through all that
crap before so tomorrow we'll
hear about it

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Some other great news

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I've got a fantastic lead on a
safety pilot Captain Dan

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Who actually flies out of echo
golf tango fox trot fair oaks
airfield

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Which is where Delta Shiro will
be parked starting the end of
this month

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And so we've had some email back
and forth and really really
hoping that that we can get that
together

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Be so cool to have a local
person doing that

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But still if you have any any
ideas about someone who could
fly as safety pilot with me

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You know most then weekend
sometimes in overnight

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It's a paid gig of course and
the more experience the better
obviously

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I just you know yes, I talked
briefly about the Academy Awards

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I was so proud I forgot to tell
you this the movie Capote

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Was directed by a guy named
Bennett Miller and I know
Bennett not very well

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I know his brother extremely
well JB Miller

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Who used to work at MTV in the
town department in fact he was
the guy that the first person I
saw in Patricia

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And I walked off the airplane at
JFK when we came to the states
and I came to work for MTV and
we started our new life

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He was there to pick us up JB
Miller just an incredibly smart
guy

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He now has a company called
Empire Entertainment and he
produces huge shows for
corporations with major major
stars

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And I remember it was a couple
years ago

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And that I was at JB's apartment
and his brother was actually I
don't know if he was living
there at the time

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But he had an avid editing suite
set up in the apartment and he
was running around

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And then it's very very creative
they're both these guys both you
know

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They're on the edge of brilliant
and loony and it was it was so
incredibly intense

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And he was doing a movie at the
time called

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Was it not rush

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Oh stupid of me it was about a
tour on one of those London
double deckers and downtown
Manhattan

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And they were editing it and you
know Drew Barrymore was in and
out of the apartment

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It was just an incredibly weird
scene

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But you know a very creative and
artistic scene

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I just wanted to say I'm so
incredibly proud of the work
that Bennett has done

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And how far he's come in such a
short amount of time and I
haven't seen the movie yet

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But I do intend on seeing it it
looks absolutely fantastic

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And so props to him I mean out
of the gate

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So it's his second feature the
first one that was a real full
blown

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Why the distributed feature to
be nominated for best director
is is just fantastic

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I still don't have to see all
that shit on television because
I really don't care anymore
about the award ceremonies

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But I got to say men props to
you for sure

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So more props going out to the
palm cast member pum pum pum

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The French podcaster who quit
his day job to podcast full time

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Well congratulations to him and
his wife

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There baby girl arrived her name
is night night eely

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There you go night eely

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And so we have another podcast
listener on the scene

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Now only what is it?

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99,999,999 to go and then we're
at 100 million mark

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All right, winding it up for
today

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This is a song that I've
actually played before on a
Wednesdays

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Kind of fitting for your
Wednesday morning vibe as we
roll the Charlie outs for
another episode

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Free judgment day

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[ Music ]

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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So I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now my life,

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So I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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Now I evolve,

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So hopefully tomorrow I'll have
some information for you about
the judgment of the theft

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of my pictures for publication
in a commercial magazine, as
well as the endangerment of my

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child.

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You'd hope that at least we'd
get something somehow, don't you
know what I mean?

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Adamaccurry.com for all your
feedback and dailysourceco.com
if you're looking for a place

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to find the latest shows.

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Remember I'll have a Victor Mike
Charlie a video cast, a video
music cast coming up

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today, sometime later, so your
results may vary due to your
time zone, and, well,

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oh, there's a message from PW
Fenton saying, where's the damn
show?

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If I cast Lester, cast Lester,
see you guys tomorrow, another
pod show podcast, stick it

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in your ear.
