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That's staging for the show
today. Well, for those of you
who've been following

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the court case yesterday, the
judgment was handed down by the
court in the Netherlands

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by the judge. Remember, it's a
professional judge system. So
not a jury of peers,

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but a judge who was clearly not
as well informed and had not
gone into depth into

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the material as I had hoped. And
we're going to talk about that
today. In fact, I just

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got off the honker with Pete up
and asked him to keep the
satellite window open longer

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today. So the folks on serious
satellite radio can hear this as
well. On that point,

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for the serious folks today, we
have Pacific Coast Hellway, East
Radio, Don, and Drew,

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also, which at all, rather for
an NCC Chapman in this four hour
block of time on serious

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stars. Okay. So if you're new to
the podcast, let me just run
through the issue very briefly.

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I know I have to reiterate this
stuff once in a while, or more
than once in a while. A Dutch

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tabloid published pictures that
were taken from my flicker
account licensed under the
creative

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Commons attribution
non-commercial share like and
they publish those. Clearly a
violation of copyright

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and at the same time they
published information about my
daughter's school and the path
that she

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takes to school and how she gets
to and from school, which I felt
was and my daughter as well.

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And most parents who have
emailed me agree that that is
definitely endangerment of a
child.

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So here's the verdict as it came
down. And I'm paraphrasing. It's
available in Dutch online in

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many different places.
Essentially the endangerment of
Christina was completely
dismissed and the

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reasoning and I'm also
paraphrasing. The reasoning
according to the judges, you're
in the public eye,

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so you can expect that. On the
what I still consider and what
is basically the truth,

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the theft of my property, which
they used for commercial
purposes in their magazine,

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the judge ruled us following.
Don't do that anymore. And if
you do, you will be

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find 1,000 euros, which is about
$1,200, for each time you do use
copyrighted work from Mr. Curry.

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So I presume that that can be
used in future case law against
anyone who has protected their
work

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on the internet through the
creative Commons license. So
while it is a win for creative
Commons

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because it did hold up in court.
And of course, their argument
was, well, you know, it said
this picture

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was public and so we were
confused. The judge says, well,
you know, your professional
organization,

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you should know better. When I
find very, so obviously the
endangerment of Christina is
unforgivable,

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I feel. And the fact that the
judge did not take my work, my
property into protection

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for future protection, I should
say, by somehow sanctioning or
penalizing the publisher or the
magazine,

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I think it's a bit of a loss.
Now, I wasn't looking for money.
Of course, all court cases,

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at the end of the day usually
civil cases revolver on money
and that's kind of how you
determine

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whether you win a law. So the
fact that I got no damages can
be seen as a loss.

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Now, here's my view on this. And
I obviously have quite a number
of things to say.

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First of all, I believe the
judge did a great disservice to
the court, to herself and to the
country

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of the Netherlands. So this
starts by a contradiction. How
can you say that you have no
protection

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over your well-being or the
well-being of your family
because you are famous, because
you have been

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featured in magazines,
television and other mainstream
media? But at the same time, how
can you say

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that that is not valuable? These
magazines clearly profit from
highlighting celebrities,

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from showing celebrities, from
taking pictures, telling
stories. It really takes the
court and

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its opinions back to the
medieval times of court
gestures. You know, court
gestures were funny and

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great and they got all kinds of
cool things from the king. But
they would chop us head off if
they

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felt like it. So I feel that
there is a huge contradiction in
what the judge is saying.

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Now, a disservice to our country
comes into play. You know, I'm
outside of the Netherlands a lot

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and whether it's in even as
close as the United Kingdom but
certainly in the United States
and most

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other countries in the world
when they talk about the
Netherlands and it used to
bother me because I

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know that the people of the
Netherlands are not like this,
but you know, on an individual
basis.

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But collectively, they're pretty
quiet and don't really stand up
for a lot or for themselves

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very often. They talk about it a
lot privately. But the
Netherlands is primarily

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note. If you say to anyone, hey,
you know, how about Holland?
What do they say? Oh, that's
where you

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can, that's where drugs are
legal and prostitution is legal.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's great.

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Well, now you can add disrespect
for art and creativity to that
mix. And I believe that

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this judgment, just looking from
the comments that are public on
my weblog and the email that
I've

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received, and this is coming
from all over the world, people
are saying, wow, this is not
really

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good for creative comments. This
is not really good for
protecting our content. Whereas
the courts are

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extremely good at protecting
content of mainstream media and
scaring people into submission.
And

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I should clarify something. You
know, these lawsuits that you
hear about these huge, you know,

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$150,000 lawsuits, they really
ever go to trial because here's
how it works. A big company,

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if you take their pictures and
publish them, if you breach
their copyright, if you, if you
download

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an MP3 file on copy it illegally
and distribute it, what that
usually happens is you get a
call.

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Now, the call is not from the
judge. The call is from a
collection agency, which works
for the

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big mainstream media companies.
And they will scare you, scare
you into eventually paying a
fine,

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which I think people wind up
usually paying between $5 and
$15,000 just to get the court
case off

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their back. So it's a
settlement, but they scare
people into it. Now, I don't
have enough money to

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scare any, any large publisher
or, or, or, or, or magazine into
submission. So I took the

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recourse that I had and that
recourse was through the courts.
And well, there you have it.

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If you take all these things
into effect, it's no wonder. And
this is the fact that people are

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emigrating, are leaving the
Netherlands in the highest
numbers ever. Every year, there
are more people

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fleeing the country because of
issues like this. Now, let's
talk about talk versus action.

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I'm a guy that comes from a long
history of doers and in my view
patriots. My family has

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extremely extensive history of
government work, public service,
work at universities, education.

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In fact, we, we have a word for
it in our family. We call it the
need road syndrome,

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which is, uh, you have to be
useful. You have to do something
for your country.

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You know, my parents grew up
listening to John F. Kennedy
say, ask not what your country
can do,

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ask what you can do for your
country. And many members of my
family, even my immediate
family,

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have gone through great
sacrifice to be a doer and not
just a talker. In fact, 99% of
most people

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I feel are all talk and no
action. I'll give you a few
examples of how I like to be a
doer

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and like to take action and not
just be all about talk. The MTV
lawsuit is an interesting case

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where a huge corporation came
down on me, tried to take
something from me that they had
allowed

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me to use legally and I fought
them and I fought them with
everything I could, which at the
time

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consisted a lot of media, a lot
of bad press, David and Goliath
tactic was about all I had. I

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certainly had very limited funds
compared to Viacom. It's still
wound up costing me about
$400,000

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to combat it and we settled.
Other instances of doers, of
doing stuff and not just talking

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in the Netherlands. And by the
way, one of the reasons I'm gone
is because the following things
happened

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for years ago. I saw this user
generated content coming
together. I saw it happening. I
knew

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that what we had was tons of
audio and video recording and
editing equipment all within our
own grasp.

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I knew that it was only a matter
of time before the bandwidth and
the infrastructure would be
there

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for us to all have. And in fact,
people in the Netherlands
listening will remember me,

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remember that I said, someday in
the not too distant future,
everyone will have their own
radio

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and television station. This was
actually pre, it wasn't really
pre-blocking or certainly
pre-blocking

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in the Netherlands. And so of
course, with that comes their
own print publication. I started
a company

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called Jambi, an acronym for
Just Anarchy Made by You,
invested millions of my,
literally millions

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of my own money in that. And we
had a client for the Veronica
Broadcasting Corporation. We had
a

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three-year deal. Think about it.
Think about these guys. If they
had stuck with the deal,

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they put, there was some lawyer.
They made their, their chairman.
And he just decided to stop
paying.

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And he said, you're what courage
you got so much money. One and
two pay for it.

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So he broke the, broke the
agreement, a three-year deal,
which would have put that
organization

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at the, at a leading position in
the world of user-generated
content and distribution.

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I feel that I really, really
worked very hard. And they
pulled out, and of course, when
you have

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30 or 40 people and you have
only one real source of income
for that, things fall apart.

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And what happens is all the
people who talk and don't do,
jump down my shit and call me a
tremendous

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failure. Another thing I did, I
saw after terrible, terrible
fire in Volandam in the
Netherlands,

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on New Year's Eve, where scores
of children died and were burned
beyond recognition,

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that because of the laws in the
Netherlands, emergency services
helicopters could not get to
these

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children because they were not
allowed to take off at night
because they had the helicopter
located

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on top of the hospital in a
residential area. They're not
allowed to fly after 7pm.

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I went to the authorities and I
said, you know what, I mean to
this helicopter stuff,

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I have a little helicopter
company. It would be beneficial
to me, but I think even more
beneficial to

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all security and beneficial to
all people if we could have a
separate helicopter in Amsterdam

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that did have 24 hour a day
access specifically for issues
of medical emergency.

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What would what did the talker
say? The talkers jumped on me
and said, you just want to get
some

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place for rich people taxi cabs.
Something to that effect. And by
the way, that heli port is
there.

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It cost me hundreds of thousands
of euros to go through all of
the red tape. It took me

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almost five years, but it's
there. And you should go take a
look at what lands there. Very
few

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rich people actually. Mostly
it's incubator flights with
children who need to be rushed
to the hospital.

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There's also they do a lot for
it. It's crazy. They do a lot
for baby seals. And that's where

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the helicopters are stationed.
And you know, and no one has
ever said, oh, that was kind of
good

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you did that. And I'm not
looking for that. I don't
because that's my internal
satisfaction.

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Same thing with the MTV dot com
domain name lawsuit. That was
precedent setting.

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Anyhow, people will look back
and the way the record is
usually written is whoever yells
the loudest

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or has the biggest megaphone can
determine what history is, can
write history. And so I'm not

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someone who stood up for his
rights or for a new territory
that had to be discovered within

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a cyberspace. Now I became the
first squatter web logging in
the Netherlands. I did a lot.

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I was one of the first
webloggers. I can't say the
first because I wouldn't know
that for sure.

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But certainly I worked very hard
on building the infrastructure
for web logging in the
Netherlands.

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If you look at web-log.nl, which
is in a way kind of the blogger
of Holland, the blogger.com.

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It was just a guy who would just
start it up some stuff. And I
was very quick to say, hey, you
know,

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you should really do RSS feeds
because that's really what makes
weblogging. Yeah, click and
connect.

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And he said, well, I don't
really have a money for the
bandwidth for people scanning
all these feeds.

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And I said, you know what, dump
them on my server. So I really
help get that going.

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Now, the downside of all that is
with the internet, talk has
become even cheaper. It's even
easier

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to just talk. It's not, you
can't just sit around and hang
out at the bar. You know, you
can.

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But, you know, just saying, oh,
oh, we should really change
something. This is no good. This
is really sucks.

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And on the internet, now you can
actually just sit at home and do
that or do it from your mobile,

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or wherever you feel like. And
just talk. You know, and talk is
cheap, my friends.

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Doing is what it's about. So
let's get back to the lawsuit.

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This lawsuit was for two reasons
for personal reasons. And I
can't help the judge's decision.

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Yeah, I could go to a higher
court and try and prove the
judge wrong. But that is really
the culture of the

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Netherlands. The culture of the
Netherlands is, and you can ask
any Dutchman about this,

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they compare the population to
blades of grass. And they say,
if you stick your head or if
your

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blade of grass is a little bit
higher than the rest, it will
get chopped off. And they say
that

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with such conviction like it's
almost a rule. For creative
commons, I went to bat this
time. It's not

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just for me. It's for creative
commons. We need to know that
this stuff that our stuff is
going to

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be protected and that there is a
value on our content versus the
content of the mainstream media

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companies. The cost of this
lawsuit for me, I estimate, you
know, I haven't received a
billion,

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but probably between six and
eight thousand dollars. And what
this lawsuit resulted in is
pretty

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much a pat on the head for all
creative people on the internet.
They are there. Okay, we
understand.

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In fact, the judge specifically
said, because the pictures were
actually really cute pictures

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and vacation pictures, she
didn't see any harm in the
publication of them. She
completely missed the

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whole point. So it's clear that
through the mainstream system,
I'll just have to call it that,

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we have no real recourse. And I
still believe that we have to
set some precedent about the
power

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of we the media and the power of
what we can do with these tools.
It's funny, I was reading

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some, actually some gossip sites
yesterday who were all reporting
on the lawsuit.

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And one of them recounted a
story. Let me see, the story is
probably, it's 20 years old this
story.

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Even more, maybe even older.
This had probably happened
almost 23 years ago. It was on
the radio.

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At the time, there was only one
popular radio station throughout
all of the Netherlands.

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Forget the pirate radio
stations, which, of course, I'd
done all of my doing at as well.

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Trying to change the media
landscape. And at that time,
Patricia and I had just hooked
up.

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And she was actually living in
my apartment in Amsterdam. Now,
there are rules, there are
paparazzi

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rules in the Netherlands, not
very many. But one rule is you
cannot take pictures or you
cannot

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publish pictures that are taken
through a window into someone's
home because that is then you
are

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violating someone's privacy.
Now, in this particular case,
this one photographer, a
paparazzi photographer,

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his name is Yopfunk Tellingon,
hit out in garbage cans outside
of my apartment for, he says two

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or three days. It probably was
two or three, at least two, but
maybe three days. And he waited

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and waited and waited until
Patricia was on the sidewalk and
I was hanging out of the window.

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And I think I dropped the keys
down to her. He got the picture.
It was huge for him and
published

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widely. Now, of course, you
feel, you feel shitty about
that. And by the way, I have
deep respect

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for doers like that. I also have
respect in a way for paparazzi
in general who will go after

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their target and take pictures.
Now, there are limits. And I
think I'm very clear about

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following my daughter who really
is outside of, you know,
anything that you should be
following

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around at all. But I do have
respect for someone saying, hey,
I'm going to go get this picture

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and I'm going to go travel to
the United Kingdom. And I'm
going to go wait until Patricia
goes into

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a parking lot and then I'm going
to take a picture and I'm going
to send it back and I'm going

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to make some money off of it.
Now, I mean, it's not a big
social, you know, something that
is

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is good to society in general,
but I do have to say I respect
people who do something. Anyway,

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so, of course, I had no
recourse, but I figured at the
time, you know what, let's have
some fun

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with this. Now, remember, this
was the only popular radio
station which had full national
coverage

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at the time. And so, I'm a radio
show, which is called Curry and
Fun Inkel.

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I said, hey, you know, since I
can't really do anything against
this, why don't you

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listeners, why don't you go down
to his store? He had a photo
store. And why don't you hang

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outside of his house for a
couple days and then take
pictures? And the send-up to me
and, you know,

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the funniest picture will
reward, I think, with a t-shirt
or whatever. Gosh, it was
amazing.

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We got thousands and thousands
of pictures and this guy was
completely overrun. What he felt

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for the first time is what it's
like to be stalked by paparazzi.
And I must say, we've actually

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become quite friendly with each
other throughout the years and
not a meeting goes by that we
don't

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bump into each other that it
doesn't say, man, you remember
that? That was really funny.
Boy,

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I learned to lessen that. So, to
the people of the Netherlands,
and again, I have complete faith

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in the people of the Netherlands
in the individuals and people
who are online, people who have

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grown up with weblogs, people
who are in cyberspace, who are
actually overturning important

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or digging up important facts
and bringing them into the
mainstream eye.

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I've never asked for anything.
Ever. And I would like to ask
you to do something for me, just
so

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we can have some fun with this
whole situation. And maybe, just
maybe show the gossip magazines,

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show the paparazzi's and show
the court that they're sorely
mistaking about the power and
the

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value and the values of what
we're doing online. And I'm
looking at, I'm looking at, I'm
looking at

27:44.840 --> 27:52.600
fuckpuntanelle.
Webstrapeurlochpuntanelle,
vidhate.com, rate to cool.com.
You guys,

27:52.600 --> 27:58.040
dipspotting.nl. Why don't we
show this mark from the Linda,
what it's like?

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He feels that he can send people
off to go stalk my daughter and
follow her around and publish

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where she goes to school and how
she gets there. What if we did
that to him?

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Now, it's very easy. He works at
an office right near the highway
at Outox. He goes,

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I don't know where he lives, but
it's not so hard to follow him.
It's the same thing they did
with

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my daughter, follow him home.
Let's get some pictures of him
and his Russian boyfriend.

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Now, to make this a little more
interesting, I was thinking, why
don't we have a little
competition?

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And let's place the same value
on this material that the court
places on our material, which is

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a thousand euros. So that would
be $1,200. So we'll do a
competition.

28:49.480 --> 28:57.560
Get me pictures of this guy. The
best picture, which can be
judged by fun factor, by

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by a whole bunch of different
factors, but it will be judged
by the number of comments

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placed next to each individual
picture on the weblog. We'll win
$1,000 euros. From me,

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I will pay it to you. I think
everybody knows that I'm good
for it and you can ask around,

29:15.880 --> 29:22.920
I always pay my bills. Then
we'll have a second part of the
competition for people who are

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doers, but maybe they don't want
to get out of the house for the
best photo mashup of Mark

29:28.920 --> 29:35.720
Fondalinda, a thousand euros for
that as well. And again, it'll
be judged publicly the most

29:35.720 --> 29:43.800
comments win. And that will be
the best therapy for me. That's
all I ask. It's real simple.

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Let them know the pod people are
here.

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solicitor or lawyer for the
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idea.

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Uh, thanks.

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Jersey Todd.

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I appreciate it.

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The daily source code has this
quite a genesis to the name of
the show.

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Of course, daily source code was
originally made up to appeal to
the developers of

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the podcast receivers.

36:20.680 --> 36:25.680
Primarily, I think when Andrew
Grummit came on the scene with
his team for the lemon receiver,

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which now, of course, is juice.

36:28.680 --> 36:32.680
I thought to myself, after
having gone through the pain of
first learning how to code
software

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and then building a podcast
aggregator with basically almost
no content to test it against,

36:38.680 --> 36:40.680
at least not regular content.

36:40.680 --> 36:43.680
I thought to myself, gee, you
know, what a good deal.

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If these developers are so
gung-ho, why don't I give them
something to work with every
single day?

36:46.680 --> 36:48.680
So that was the daily part.

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And source code, duh, that
appealed, hopefully, to the
developers.

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Now, as we as podcasting grew
and as many,

36:59.680 --> 37:03.680
the nano came on the scene
actually, I think that's what we
started the nano, which is a
screenless

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not the nano.

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I'm sorry, the iPod mini.

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Was the mini?

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Yeah, the mini, the one without
a screen.

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As those came on to the scene,
we started tagging our podcast.

37:13.680 --> 37:17.680
So I used to call it, you know,
daily source code for, and I'd
give the date.

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And I didn't even start with
numbers.

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I think as I wasn't tracking the
episode numbers until somewhere
on 150 or whatever.

37:25.680 --> 37:29.680
And that just became, you know,
such a long intro.

37:29.680 --> 37:31.680
And then I said, you know, why
would we just call it DSC?

37:31.680 --> 37:36.680
And then as I was more into
flying, I started using the
pilot speak and kind of as a,

37:36.680 --> 37:39.680
as a goof, I said, all right,
it's the Delta Sierra Charlie.

37:39.680 --> 37:41.680
All I would car is that pulling
up.

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No, it's not for us.

37:43.680 --> 37:45.680
I called the Delta Sierra
Charlie.

37:45.680 --> 37:49.680
And of course, people took that
and started saying, on the
Charlie, which is also by the
way,

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very common in aviation, where
as long as you're in the right
air space.

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And you know, the tower knows
who you are, you know, people
will use all kinds of different

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identifications.

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And from the Charlie, we got to
the Chuck John, to the Chuck and
to the Charles,

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and all that.

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And then, of course, we found
out that some people use Charlie
to describe other things.

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And this is not entirely
family's safe what you're about
to hear.

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But worth listening to
regardless.

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Hi Adam, it's Charles from
Petictionary,

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but the word Charlie and penis
and vagina.

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Two tracks here.

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I look at my enormous collection
of dictionaries and I find that
the word Charlie has been
applied

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to quite a few choice things
over the years.

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A style of beard, a woman's
breast, the North Vietnamese,
during the Vietnam War,

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a stupid person, a white person,
if you're black, cocaine, a
night watchman, a fox, a
backpack,

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a coward.

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No, where do I find it used to
refer to penis?

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Which brings me to the second
track.

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You advocate that parents should
use the correct names for
children's sex organs.

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I couldn't agree more, but you,
dear Adam, are using the wrong
word when you call the gross

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privates of a vagina.

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It just so happens that this
very morning, I began a new
podcast in addition to my daily

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one.

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The new one is called Carnal
Knowledge, and here is a sample
that speaks directly to the

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point.

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Here I'm talking about that
really successful show of the
vagina monlogues.

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The whole thing is based on the
wrong word.

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Listen to this.

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You cannot love the vagina
unless you love hair.

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Many people do not love hair.

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My first and only husband hated
hair.

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The thing they're talking about
isn't actually the vagina.

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The vagina is an internal part
of a woman's body.

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The vagina is named from an
identical Latin word that the
Romans used to describe the

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scabbard they kept their knife
or sword in.

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Obviously, the vagina is named
as a sheath or scabbard in
relation to men's penises

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representing the sword.

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The vagina on a woman is not
visible.

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It doesn't have hair.

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It's the passage between the
uterus and the visible and
hairy.

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The reason the show is called
the vagina monologues isn't that
Eve Ensler didn't know

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the difference.

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It's that she was a smart
marketer.

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The correct name for the body
part and question is the vulva.

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I'm sure you knew that.

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But as Dr. Harriet Learner says,
most people think a vulva is a
brand of Swedish car.

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You can hear the whole thing by
looking for it at podcast alley.

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I've submitted to iTunes too,
but it's not been about six
hours, so it hasn't shown

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up yet.

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Go on podcast alley for being so
fast.

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You can search on Carl Knowledge
or on Charles Hudson.

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Thanks for listening.

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Yo, Charles.

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Thank you very much from
predictionary.com fantastic.

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You know, speaking of vulvos,
just briefly just want to stray
for a second here.

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That new or a gummy thing that
Microsoft announced yesterday.

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I watched the whole scobal video
on Channel 9.

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That's the Microsoft developers
network Channel 9, which I think
is great by the way.

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What a great way to market a
product.

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Have a scobal with this camera.

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Go talk to the product manager.

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Although it looks very
interesting, and it seems like
it might be just perfect to
combine with cast blasts.

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I'm not quite sure because I
don't think it has audio in and
out points.

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It does have built in
microphones and stuff like that,
but I don't know if it'll take
it.

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I don't think it'll take an
external sound card.

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It'll take USB, but USB always
has latency, so that kind of
bites.

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Why does that thing look like a
vulvo?

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This is the one thing that a
company like Microsoft does not
have in its DNA.

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Style, style, and beauty.

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That's what makes the iPod so
cool.

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The iPod now, of course, has
become cool for what's on it,
and not what it looks like.

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I was like, yeah, I'll probably
buy one of those if it has the
right inputs, but God, it's just
so ugly.

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So non-stylish and typical,
typical.

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By the way, on the daily source
code, we break for network
members.

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Steve Webb has something very
important he wants to share with
us.

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Hey, out of Steve Webb here,
man, $5,000 a night for a hotel
room and average hotel room.

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I tell you what, man.

41:56.680 --> 41:58.680
Come to Southern California.

41:58.680 --> 42:01.680
I will rent you my house for
substantially less than that.

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I'm in Southern California, as
you know, I'm about an hour from
Palm Springs.

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I'm an hour from the beach.

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I'm an hour from the mountains.

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I'm about an hour from
Disneyland.

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I'm about an hour and a half
from Universal Studios.

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I've got a brand new pool of my
backyard.

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You're welcome to use, man.

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I'm telling you, I can really
cut a deal for you.

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So think about that.

42:21.680 --> 42:25.680
Number two, as far as aluminum
and aluminum goes.

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Aluminium is an element in the
periodic table.

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So if you're talking about that
element,

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Aluminium is the correct
pronunciation.

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If you're talking about the
alloy that most all of us come
in contact with everyday,

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that's aluminum.

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It's ALU-I-M-N-U-M aluminum.

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So the Brits are right when
they're referring to the
Aluminium,

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if they're talking about the
element.

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But I have to say that, you
know, I've got lots of British
listeners too,

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and I don't want to offend
anybody.

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But aluminum is the correct way
to talk about the alloy.

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You know, actually, I've gotten
so many feet.

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First of all, thank you very
much for the offer Steve.

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I really appreciate it.

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That's very kind of you.

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But we can't even get flights to
California.

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That's how bad it is.

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All of London is like, well, all
of Britain looks like they won
the lottery, man.

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There's no more flights
available even in that
direction.

43:17.680 --> 43:19.680
Patricia did call her record
boss,

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a villain from Cote.

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He has hotels and golf courses
in Portugal.

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Of course, he's a mainstream
record guy.

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And used to be really active.

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They have a long lasting love
affair.

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And he said that he would hook
us up,

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and I can definitely get to
transportation down there.

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So I do appreciate it.

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Many, many people sent in, many,
many dictionary entries,

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and apparently aluminum or
aluminium,

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whether you're talking about the
element or the alloy,

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are both correct.

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It's just a difference in
pronunciation.

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Let's see.

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Next, one other thing.

43:54.680 --> 43:57.680
You've often talked about how
words are just words to you.

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And for the most part, I would
say that there are some words

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that I choose not to use.

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But when it comes to using the
name Jesus Christ,

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Adam, he means something to me.

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That's a real person.

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How would you like it if every
time,

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you know, I smash my thumb or
something like that,

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I go, oh, Adam Curry.

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I mean, you didn't have anything
to do with it.

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And in most of the cases where
you've used that name recently,

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he didn't have anything to do
with it.

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So if you could be just a little
bit more sensitive in that area,

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I would appreciate it.

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And I'm sure that there's lots
of other listeners

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that would appreciate it as
well.

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So just to be a little sensitive
there in that area,

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I'd appreciate it, my friend.

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Thanks, Adam.

44:42.680 --> 44:44.680
Thank you very much, Steve.

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Well, first of all, I apologize.

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Didn't mean to offend you.

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And I do understand what you're
saying.

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Let me tell you where it comes
from.

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You know, having been in
broadcasting and having to have
lived

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with broadcasts, rules for half
of my life.

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It's so liberating to do a
podcast that, you know,

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I kind of drop all the filters,
you know, everything.

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And that includes speech that I
might not use in a public place.

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And of course, although in
smaller groups,

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I just tend to speak the way I
speak.

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And that using Jesus Christ's
name in vain,

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I guess is the correct way to
put that.

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I can understand that's
offensive to you.

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However, Steve, I do want to say
I think that that was a
brilliant

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marketing play by Jesus Christ.

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Think about it.

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For all these years, whenever
something bad happens,

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when you smash your thumb,
people say that.

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And of course, I didn't, you
know, it was in,

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I've been influenced by my
parents or a television or
whatever.

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So, you know, I didn't make this
up on myself.

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This has been going on for, oh,
let's say maybe 2000 or some odd
years,

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perhaps.

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Personally, I would love it.

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I would love it.

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It would be fantastic.

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People, the next time, something
happens.

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And you want to say Jesus
Christ, say Adam Curry.

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Please, I beg of you.

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If you smash your thumb, yes,
say Adam Curry.

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Because it is one of the reasons
I believe that his name is still
out there.

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So feel free to do that.

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I do not mind.

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I really don't.

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I would see, in fact, I would,
it would be, I would find it a
great honor.

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And I'm not comparing myself to
anyone else.

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I'm just saying, I would find it
an honor.

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If in 2000 years from now, when
something goes incredibly wrong,

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and they say someone smashes
their thumb or bumps into
something or

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stubs their toe or whatever,
they say, I'm Curry.

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I hope I was successful in that
programming.

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Steve, I appreciate it.

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Point well made.

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Adam, this is season from
Gragradio.

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I was listening to DSC 350
today.

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Okay, make that Charlie Cha Cha,
Charles 350.

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And I heard the feedback about
your pronunciation of
controversy.

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Now, I'm just wondering if I
were to move to Italy and
started using, say, the term

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Chao?

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Would I piss off a bunch of
Americans?

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Or if I moved to Japan and
started saying,

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how crazy is it to think that
one would not pick up some
language and accents

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from one's own environment?

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If only because it's fun to do
so, my son is a Colorado boy,

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but it didn't take long after
his move to Texas for him to be
saying,

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y'all, he's using other
Texasisms.

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So, Adam, do your thing, baby,
we love it.

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And here's a little shameless
plug for Gragradio.

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After you've finished listening
to the Chuck E. Chuchu,

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come on out to Gragradio.com and
check out an episode of
Gragradio with Doug and Susan.

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Right on, Susan, thank you.

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I like your voice, by the way.

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Very husky and sexy.

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Very, very nice.

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Ah, Adam Curry.

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Reminds me of Denny Crane.

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Okay, let's see, we're almost at
the end of today's show.

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Um, we're going to close the
set.

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Yes, I paid up saying that we
have about 30 seconds for the
satellite window to close.

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So, those of you check it out on
stars and serious.

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Hope you enjoyed today's
podcast.

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There's lots of cool stuff going
on with podcast and come to
podshow.com,

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dailystoresco.com, to find out
more, to listen to more.

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Or just stay tuned right now for
a Mark Yoshimoton M.Coff

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and the help players coming up
with Pacific Coast Hellway.

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Um, Madge Weinstein with East
Radio, Don and Drew,

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and then Wichita Rutherford and
we wanted up with CC Chap,

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and you guys have a great
weekend drive home safely,

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and hopefully we'll meet back
here on Monday.

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So, everybody, wait goodbye to
our satellite friends, bye-bye.

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And Steve, you may want to turn
the, uh, you may want to turn
the sound down.

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Hello, Adam's Curry.

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It's Madge Weinstein of East
Radio.com.

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You're favorite lesbian on the
internet.

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I have a boner to pick with you.

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What is all this bullshit about
calling your show the Charlie?

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That is the most annoying,
heterocentric, male oriented
society,

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divergenating, well, I want to
say the opposite of
demasculating,

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but you're divergenating me.

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I think that's the word.

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I mean, why do you have to call
your show Charlie?

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It's so stupid.

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It's just so macho, bravado.

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It's so soccer.

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It's so I went to Iraq, but I
didn't fight anything.

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I just combed my hair and rode
on a helicopter.

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It's just so ridiculous.

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Don't call it the show.

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And besides, the Charlie, he's
what they call stop for a
second.

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Madge, uh, I beg to differ on
the Iraq thing.

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I don't care what you say.

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Again, I did go to Iraq.

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I did meet with the Iraqi
people.

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I did form my own opinion, and
you didn't.

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Pain in the England.

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So I don't know if you're making
one of these drug references or
what,

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but it's got to be stopped the
Charlie.

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Why can't you call it something
feminine like, um,

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like the god, the Esther or the
goddess or mother nature or my
vagina.

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No, you can't name it after my
vagina.

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I mean, whatever, it's bullshit.

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Anyway, and the other thing is
this,

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it's so, your show is becoming
more and more sexist.

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This Metro sexual business.

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What is that about?

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And why, um, why do you have to
talk about shaving for men only?

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How come you don't talk about
vaginal shaving?

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How come you don't want to know
how, what are the things I have
to go through once a year

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when I shaved my vagina to go to
the Bahamas?

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How come you don't want to know
about that?

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All you want to know is about
men shaving.

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You know why?

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Cause you're a tranny fucker.

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That's why you're a fucking
tranny fucker.

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You're a pervert, Adam's curry.

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You're a goddamn fucking
pervert.

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I'm sure Patricia will
appreciate that.

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And I'm sure that she'll have
plenty to say to you,

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and by the way, why don't you
come back to me

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when you actually have grown a
charlie worth mentioning?

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Okay?

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Oh, one other thing about,

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remember we're still talking
about doers and talkers.

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A lot of banter on the boards
about download with Heather and
Junel,

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which is a podcast underwritten
and sponsored by AccuView
Contact lenses.

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It's gotten so bad now,
particularly people who hang out
at podcast pickle,

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which I've decided I'm just not
going to read any more boards,

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podcast alley or podcast pickle.

51:53.680 --> 51:57.680
And the people who are doing
this, they know what I'm talking
about,

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they talk so much trash about
this podcast.

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And it's so evident that they
have never even listened to it.

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They're so lazy.

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They'd rather just spew off a
few lines of garbage

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without even having listened to
the show.

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It is not scripted.

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Yes, it's completely
underwritten by AccuView.

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There's a reason for that.

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These girls, and you're so
hurtful to the talent on the
show.

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They are just doing a job,
right?

52:31.680 --> 52:32.680
That's nothing wrong with it.

52:32.680 --> 52:36.680
No one died and made the
podcasting rules of what can't.

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Podcasting is a technology.

52:38.680 --> 52:43.680
It's not that there's certain
rules of what you can and can't
do.

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Go listen to it for a change.

52:45.680 --> 52:48.680
Listen to the show
download.acuView.com.

52:48.680 --> 52:52.680
It's not for 13 year old boys.

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It's for 13 year old girls.

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It's a fun show if you want to
talk trash amongst girlfriends
and talk about boys.

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And yes, they talk about acuView
lenses.

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They're sponsor.

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So stop it already.

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Grow up, please.

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I had a visit to Joe from the
small world podcast here.

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You know, every time you hear
your listeners talk about things
like DRM,

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wiretapping, or companies like
AOL, taxing, or emails, I get so
mad.

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I want to hurt my eye-potted
someone.

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Let me take a deep breath.

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That's better.

53:26.680 --> 53:29.680
Today, in the small world, I'll
be talking with Mitchell
Shapineck who wrote the end of
the

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blog sphere about a topic that's
been discussed in the DSC.

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How telecommunication companies
are pushing for a legislation to
create a multi-tiered

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internet, effectively owning the
web.

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So I thought I'd turn excerpt of
the interview with you.

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My fellow Delhi source code
listeners.

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There's a very serious threat,
really right now.

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In fact, as I speak, and in the
coming next month or two, the
legislation that's being crafted

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in the halls of Washington, D.C.

53:55.680 --> 54:00.680
that would take the bulk of the
control of the internet away
from in users,

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and into the hands of the major
table and telecommunication
companies.

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Companies like AT&T and Verizon
and Comcast and Balsal,

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who basically want to turn the
internet into their own kind of
private commercial

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feast up.

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I think the biggest thing of
what people can do is to learn
about the matter and spread the

54:19.680 --> 54:20.680
word.

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When people know about these
issues and know that people can
do something about these issues,

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it's pretty much gravy after
that.

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If you feel, as I do, that it's
an issue that net neutrality and
related issues

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regarding the future of the
internet and ultimately the
future perhaps of the entirety
of the

54:36.680 --> 54:40.680
United States, get involved in
some of the organizations that
campaign for the working

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on these efforts.

54:41.680 --> 54:43.680
I'll mention freepress.net.

54:43.680 --> 54:45.680
National lobbying group called
Common Cause.

54:45.680 --> 54:48.680
Their website is common
cause.org.

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Then more and spread the word
about the issue about its
importance,

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no matter how you might feel
about it.

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If you'd like to hear the rest
of the interview, you can
download the show at
smallworldpodcast.com.

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Thanks Adam, and I hope the
vacation works out.

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Yeah, thank you very much,
buddy.

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The podcast Paul here in the UK
sent me a Skype message this
morning.

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I replied, but I guess he was
already off to work.

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The message said, Adam, have you
heard about this?

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The UK government wants to all
podcasters to register
themselves.

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They'll have to pay 100 pounds,
and if they don't, and they're
caught, then they will have to
pay

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1000 pound fine.

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When does it start this
registration?

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Well, April 1st.

55:26.680 --> 55:30.680
Yeah, Paul, I don't think you're
an idiot.

55:31.680 --> 55:33.680
Please don't think that I am.

55:33.680 --> 55:37.680
That's clearly the lamest April
Fool's joke I have ever heard
of.

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Just going back to, back to
download with Heather and
Janelle.

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Doers and trash talkers.

55:44.680 --> 55:47.680
Okay, you can sit there and talk
and say it sucks,

55:47.680 --> 55:50.680
and the marketing is bad, and
it's a horrible idea,

55:50.680 --> 55:56.680
or you could get up off your
lazy ass, go out, and go do your
own show,

55:56.680 --> 55:59.680
and show how it's supposed to be
done.

55:59.680 --> 56:02.680
And many of you do that, and I
choose not to listen,

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because I don't think that what
you're doing is cool,

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but I don't trash you for it.

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God, that's so stupid.

56:08.680 --> 56:13.680
You know, here we are all
infighting on these stupid
message boards.

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It's just, ah, they disgust me.

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And I'm just tired of it.

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I really am.

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Now luckily, you'll all have
something to talk about.

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Hey, let's end the show on a
high note, shall we?

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This is a song that always gets
me feeling really good and
pumping for the weekend.

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The natives of a new song.

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And people.

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Yeah, that's you too.

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Out there on the pickle and on
the alley.

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We're all just people.

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People are in using your hand.

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There's music playing in your
head.

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So listen.

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Oh yeah, okay, that's it. Boy,
this was really cathartic. I
felt really good. That's what I
do it for. Just get some shit
off my chest. I feel wonderful

01:01:01.120 --> 01:01:06.120
Hey, I'm looking forward to a
great weekend. I hope you have a
great weekend. If you think I'm
a dick, just remember

01:01:07.120 --> 01:01:08.120
I'm only human

01:01:12.120 --> 01:01:18.120
Adam at curry dot com daily
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with file names and stuff like
that

01:01:18.120 --> 01:01:25.120
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